Erica Kirk was the most powerful woman in the world last night. She forgave the man who killed her husband, Charlie Kirk. It was a powerful and powerful message. I'm here to remind you that we are called upon to forgive our enemies.
00:00:00.000All right, you guys, happy Monday. Erica Kirk, man, that she really is just the moment. The speech that she gave, everybody was just wowed by her. I felt my energy personally, like last night going into that, I was effectively like soaring in the air above the convention center, like a dragon above waiting for Erica to just be like fire.
00:00:22.260And I was just going to come down and swoop in out of nowhere. All the politicians, all the fake people, everyone was just going to be in that moment toast. But she didn't call for war. Erica did not call for war. In fact, she did the exact opposite, which is what was so stunning. It was unbelievable. The forgiveness that she granted, the strength that it took for her to call for that forgiveness. It's just unmatched and it really made a difference.
00:00:45.720And I was being serious when I tweeted that I think it was the most consequential speech in American history, a message that everyone needed to hear, including myself, a message of complete submission to Christ.
00:00:56.940And by the way, later on, we're also going to discuss another kind of submission to Christ, which is submitting yourself to truth.
00:01:04.940Cash Patel has now come out and issued a statement fully capitulating to the public, the public insistence that they're lying to us.
00:01:13.600They are so clearly lying to us about what happened on the day that Charlie Kirk lost his life.
00:01:19.140Nothing they've told us thus far makes any sense. And somehow it's only getting worse.
00:01:24.280So welcome back. Let's jump right into this.
00:01:26.760I have to say any woman that can get on stage and meaningfully say that they forgive the person who killed their husband that quickly.
00:01:51.920Honestly, you are truly a better person than me because I I've just been so angry and so angry.
00:01:58.460And yet she was able to through tears. And obviously you could tell how difficult that moment was for her.
00:02:04.820But she arrived at forgiveness and she did in front of the entire world.
00:02:08.720And I think that every single person should watch that speech.
00:02:11.880Truly, they should watch that speech. They should watch Tucker Carlson's speech.
00:02:15.540I don't think even showing you clips of it. I'm going to show you one could do it justice.
00:02:20.120You should watch it in its entirety, the emotion, the message of it.
00:02:23.980And you can obviously see why Charlie fell in love with her.
00:02:28.440Right. I remember meeting Erica. We were at Charlie and I were in New York for something one another.
00:02:32.740And he was falling for her hard, but he wanted to play cool.
00:02:36.280He wanted to play cool. So he's like, come meet her at Del Frisco's in New York City.
00:02:39.960And I came there and she was just lovely. She was genuinely such a nice person.
00:02:44.240I was like, Charlie, just go for it. Just go for it. And he did go for it.
00:02:47.620And last night, I really do think that the entire world needed to hear her message.
00:02:52.260What you took from it, how you could apply it to your life is up to you.
00:02:56.480But specifically, the part that she shared that provided me with so much peace, and I needed to hear it truly, was when she explained that Charlie did not suffer.
00:03:09.420Because that thinking about that is, I just, I really shed so many tears over it.
00:03:15.120Just thinking that he suffered even for a moment.
00:03:18.100It was my favorite part of her speech. So I'm going to play that right now.
00:03:20.560One moment, Charlie was doing what he loved, arguing and debating on campus, fighting for the gospel and truth in front of a big crowd.
00:03:37.480And then he blinked. He blinked and saw his savior in paradise.
00:03:45.260And all the heavenly mysteries were revealed to him.
00:04:03.280I mean, that, it's just beautiful to really think about that, that he just blinked and then he was with the Lord.
00:04:09.640And it is just a fact that, I mean, Charlie just loved the Lord.
00:04:14.120It was constantly, like I told you, going through the conversations and how much he would just say, I need to pray about it, I need to pray about it, I need to pray about it, wanting to marry Erica.
00:04:22.420First thing he said, which I think I showed you guys last week.
00:04:24.840And Erica is correct. It is important to remember that message of forgiveness that we have within ourselves.
00:04:30.900And it sometimes feels very hard to do that.
00:04:33.200But we do, we are called upon to forgive people, to forgive our enemies, even in moments that it seems impossible or extraordinary to do so.
00:04:40.400But it is also important, it's not really a but, but I just, I want to assert that it is also important to remember that what Christ is, as I said at the top of this show, is truth, right?
00:05:04.200In fact, I'm now currently working on a minute-by-minute timeline, which I will have for you guys later this week, of what exactly happened in the seconds and minutes following Charlie getting shot.
00:05:17.200I need to know, I need to follow bodies.
00:05:19.120I've already been able to, as I asked over the weekend, locate George Zinn in the crowd.
00:05:25.000It seems a bit suspicious to me how far he was.
00:05:28.180And then suddenly, they take him through a pathway.
00:05:32.020Thank you to the person that sent this picture.
00:05:34.660But then I find him on video, and I'm trying to understand how he made it down the pathway and was taken through to the same area that they had just taken Charlie in the car.
00:05:46.000Or I have a lot of questions, and each and every one of them will be answered by the end of this investigation.
00:05:51.940And I also want to put it to you this way.
00:05:54.480So much more has come to light that I have not yet presented.
00:05:58.120I am working with other journalists, different aspects, asking them, hey, you look into this.
00:07:50.840In fact, the only blood that I did see at all, I'm talking about blood on the back, was on Charlie's hand, on Charlie's left hand, which, as many people have been saying, means that the blood moved forward.
00:08:02.680We don't need to get into all of the gore.
00:08:05.640But what I didn't expect thereafter was for the Turning Point USA spokesperson, Andrew Colvett, to issue this statement as people were asking questions like, hey, how is that possible?
00:08:16.560How was there nothing in the back if this is the gun that was used?
00:08:20.720Andrew Colvett tweeted this over the weekend.
00:08:24.220I want to address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie.
00:08:30.960I'm usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize that this is somewhat graphic.
00:08:38.140But in this case, the fact that there wasn't an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know.
00:08:44.500I just spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital.
00:08:48.660He said the bullet, quote, absolutely should have gone through, which is very, very normal for a high-powered, high-velocity round.
00:08:58.180I've seen wounds from this caliber many times, and they always just go through everything.
00:09:03.780This would have taken a moose or two down, an elk, etc., end quote.
00:09:14.860I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff, students, and special guests standing directly behind Charlie on the other side of the tent.
00:09:23.600And he replied, it was an absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed.
00:09:28.380His bone, referring to Charlie, was so healthy and the density was so, so impressive that he's like the Man of Steel.
00:09:35.020It should have just gone through and through.
00:09:36.700It likely would have killed those standing behind him, too.
00:09:39.680In the end, the coroner did find the bullet just beneath the skin.
00:09:44.860Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him.
00:12:24.060The spokesperson for TPUSA just posted two hours ago that they talked to the coroner, and that Charlie Kirk was shot with a .30-06 in the left side of his neck in the crowd artery,
00:12:38.580and that he's a man of steel, and that the bones in his neck that are like chicken bones stopped a bullet that travels 2,500 feet a second out of the barrel at 200 yards,
00:12:57.140depending on the grain of the cartridge and the rest of it, probably hit him at 1,900 feet per second.
00:13:06.100I've shot hogs at 500 yards, 30-odd-6, right to the side, tiny hole, blows a four-inch hole out to the side.
00:13:36.040If you were going to bring me to the argument that this truly was a miracle, it probably would not be in the midst of a circumstance where the feds are lying, right?
00:13:50.540Because it could be a miracle also that Tyler Robinson decided to take a break at Dairy Queen and issue some texts that sound like they were written in 1822 and tell every single—
00:14:06.860It could just be a miracle, right, for the feds and go through every single detail of exactly how he planned it, why he planned it, including his MAGA dad, who's been extra MAGA lately that he doesn't actually live with, and nobody knows why the dad is extra MAGA lately, and explaining where to find the weapon.
00:14:23.700And just a miracle that he happened to leave this letter that has since been disappeared, but he took a picture, his lover took a picture of it.
00:14:31.500It could just all be one big federal miracle.
00:14:35.900But I'm not inclined to believe that at this moment, okay?
00:14:40.700I'm not inclined to believe any of this at this moment, and so we press on, okay?
00:14:46.620And because Alex and many other people and hunters and conservatives were going, yeah, no, I mean, people were even posting videos of them shooting to show what that damage would be like, Kash Patel then made an extraordinary move, and I would say I would refer to this as a capitulation to online sleuths.
00:17:50.420Secondly, saying that you're not going to release information because you want to protect the integrity of the investigation while also releasing those ridiculous text messages that looked like somebody was having fun on TikTok and making, you know, a ridiculous skit.
00:18:06.420And I don't feel like the investigation has much integrity or the feds in general have any integrity after you guys gaslit us about Jeffrey Epstein.
00:18:16.200OK, so if you want us to or if you want to restore credibility to the feds, I would allow the mommy sleuths to take over.
00:18:27.240I'd get in touch and allow the Internet to do what the Internet does, because now you're answering everything that we brought up, not me, we, because I am it is because of the entire world paying attention, sending tips.
00:18:43.120I'm grateful to God that I have a platform to be able to share that information and to encourage it.
00:18:47.300But this is this is just coming from regular people around the world.
00:18:50.200And now you guys are it feels like playing defense because you have not been playing offense.
00:18:54.960So, yeah, that would be my free advice.
00:19:00.080But while I have your attention, I do have a few more questions that could be answered or maybe some leads that you guys could be exploring, if you will, because once we began learning about that house next door that's been vacant and is owned by UVU.
00:19:18.280And once we began looking into the witnesses and finding a common last name and looking into Caldera Engineering, as we did last week, again, not implying that they did anything wrong, just telling you factually that that witness whose footage ended up in the hands of TMZ runs an engineering company that is has a presence worldwide.
00:19:41.900And they specialize in making these valves.
00:20:11.880And I ask myself, oh, well, is anybody looking to whether or not there is anything under Charlie Kirk when he was shot?
00:20:20.700Because if we aren't accepting the narrative that that particular gun at that distance didn't know didn't pass through.
00:20:30.860And yet, for whatever reason, the Fed scrambled to repave that area.
00:20:36.620Maybe, as some people have speculated, he was shot from a closer distance.
00:20:41.840I started wondering, was there an access point to any valves?
00:20:46.140Were there any pipelines that could have been under Charlie?
00:20:48.400And as it turns out, I looked at some old pictures of where he was sitting and there was a massive pipeline that was almost exactly behind where Charlie was sitting.
00:20:57.140Here's that that maybe it's a water pipeline.
00:21:38.160But if there was a hatch door nearby, then we can assume, as we should always assume with colleges, obviously stadiums, there's always an underground path.
00:21:47.060So I'm wondering if the federal government has explored the possibility that somebody could have been under Charlie and done that.
00:21:55.320While everyone's looking around and thinking that a shot went off from here, if that was just maybe like decoy number two, and actually Charlie was shot from beneath him, which then could maybe explain why there was no exit wound.
00:22:08.480Again, I'm theorizing because I have a right to.
00:22:29.800Maybe we should be looking below if there is this interest in pipelines.
00:22:33.420And I saw that actually where he was sitting, there's a whole irrigation system that's managed by the university.
00:22:39.380And so there's definitively stuff beneath Charlie.
00:22:43.500Again, I don't know anything about ballistics, but I've been very clear that we will be exploring every lead until we get a proper answer for what happened.
00:22:55.260And I think that that would probably be an interesting one for the feds to explore because within 48 hours, I mean, was it 48 hours, Skylar?
00:23:03.100They decided to instead pave that area, repave it.
00:24:09.900And right now, the greatest silence that is being had right now is around the lives that are ended before they even take their first breath.
00:24:18.560We're going to call ourselves defenders of life.
00:31:11.460What else is he going to say to this person?
00:31:13.140And then but it's that second message that I can tell you exactly what the context was because I was messaging Charlie about it.
00:31:18.520And I can tell you the time frame and why they wiped it is because it's from 2023.
00:31:22.260He then writes, it doesn't come natural to her because I truly think she doesn't understand saying that Muslims are forced to live in a Muslim quarter in Israel.
00:32:12.980So I then started getting peer pressured to correct the tweets, to apologize for the tweet at the time I was at the Daily Wire, that I needed to understand why my tweet was wrong.
00:32:22.220Dave Rubin instantly replied and said something about Israel, even though I didn't mention Israel in the tweet.
00:32:27.040And by itself, it was, I still stand by that tweet, guys, years on.
00:32:58.280And he is saying, here are the words that we have to hear from Candace.
00:33:01.420The reason they stripped that and didn't put the date that it was 2023 is because it destroys the narrative that they're trying to put out that me and Charlie stopped, had a falling out.
00:33:11.040Because, obviously, I went on tour with Charlie at the beginning of 2024.
00:33:15.140And I spoke at their conference in the summer of 2024.
00:33:19.180And, you know, don't let the facts get in the way of this bizarre narrative that Charlie and I had some falling out last year, which never happened.
00:33:24.960And rather, what happened was Charlie was peer pressured by these same individuals that I, you know, for me not to speak at AmFest.
00:33:31.980And I was just like, dude, I don't even care, which is what I told you.
00:33:35.300Now, in terms of his statement there that Charlie's viewpoints were not changing at all, these are not words that I put in Charlie's mouth.
00:33:42.980You can just go back and watch the things that he was saying.
00:33:45.740He hosted a sit-down, which was incredible, actually, to discuss what anti-Semitism is and what anti-Semitism is not.
00:33:54.200It was a town hall of sorts with students.
00:33:57.520Gen Z, as Megyn Kelly said, you can't find anybody beneath the age of 30 that supports Israel.
00:34:18.200And then eventually, obviously, I lost my job behind the scenes, telling me what I had to say if I wanted to, I don't know, still be welcomed into the circle.
00:34:28.620And I made a conscious decision to not be welcomed.
00:34:31.520I don't want to be around people that are behaving like that, that are speaking like the way that person is speaking.
00:36:07.420If you're going to say I hate Jews over and over and over again, like, if I'm going to be convicted of the crime, I might as well do the crime.
00:36:13.560I fear the same thing happens with all the talk of race.
00:36:16.700The more we talk about it, the more we bring it up, the more racism actually happens.
00:36:20.760This is like, I try to tell, thank you for saying this, like, because like, this is, I try to tell these people and they're like, we must get more aggressive.
00:37:13.160My wife and I had the best experiences ever.
00:37:14.860I saw where Jesus rose from the dead and he walked on water.
00:37:17.380But also I'm an American and I represent a generation that can't afford anything and that we are like flooded with illegals and no one speaks English and our hospitals are clogged.
00:37:28.620I think we need to have the prudence to reject the Jew hate.
00:37:32.640Like, okay, we're not going to put up with that.
00:37:34.140But also, if you call everyone an anti-Semite, if they don't take a puritanical view of the Netanyahu government, then I think that's – it's bad for everybody.
00:37:47.400Again, that's him in his own words just a little over a month before he lost his life.
00:38:07.840How many of you guys think when a lawmaker, a man I respect like Ted Cruz, uses the Bible to justify aid to Israel, doesn't even know the verse, do you guys think that's like not the best way to approach this?
00:38:25.060I think a lot of people see that as off-putting when you look at the New Testament.
00:38:28.560Because I think a lot of people, they look especially at the writings of Paul where he talks about how the new flesh is not the same as the people in the Old Covenant.
00:38:58.420I feel like it's great to have a concern for your country.
00:39:00.840Do you think that AIPAC represents, again, I'm not saying I believe this, but I think this is what you're saying, that it represents a kind of cutting in line of prioritization away from the American people?
00:39:30.240The entirety of the idea of AIPAC is to represent a group, but the fact that we're allowing a group that doesn't even represent American interests to influence the people who are supposed to be representing us, I have a huge problem with.
00:39:43.060And that's why I've said this before, and a lot of people don't like when I say it, I actually think there's probably like 20 representatives between Senate and the House who I think are actually fully doing the work of the American people and don't have the interests of some group pulling their sway.
00:39:57.780But when you hear that lots of other countries also are lobbying, do you think, I mean, you probably don't know the names of those countries, but it's happening.
00:40:07.780Does that upset you equally, or does AIPAC just get all the press because it's so top of mind?
00:40:12.860If those other ones are doing the same thing, of course, I do not think that other countries should be telling us how to spend, you know, telling our representatives and people who are here to represent all of us that they should be focusing outside of the United States.
00:40:31.560You know, there once was a president who, um, started talking about that, suggesting that the precursor to AIPAC, which became AIPAC, um, should register under Farah.
00:40:44.320And he ended up getting shot in a moving vehicle in broad daylight with the whole world watching.
00:40:50.200So that's a dangerous conversation to be hosting is what I want to say.
00:40:53.560It's a very dangerous conversation to be hosting.
00:40:55.840It is incredible that he is in his own words six weeks ago, and they're just lying to that young ethnically Jewish kid who said he was converting Catholicism.
00:41:07.020If the spirit of what he was saying, if he was the leader, um, and was the spokesperson in the political realm for the Jewish people, they would go a lot further.
00:41:20.760Instead, they're making enemies everywhere.
00:41:22.420And as they make enemies, they then gaslight, they call their friends in the press, they call you names, and they keep doing more of the thing that made them lose an entire generation of people.
00:41:43.920It's ridiculous to pretend like I am saying something that you cannot verify, that Megyn Kelly's lying, that Tucker Carlson is lying.
00:41:48.800And it is very difficult to not see, as I do, that what I went through beginning at, in the beginning of 2024, seems to be what Charlie was going through in 2025, which is getting really tired of the pressure of people telling you something that you're doing is wrong or saying is wrong when it so clearly is not.
00:42:12.620It's almost like they try to make you think you're in a psychosis, right?
00:42:18.720It's a level of gaslighting you've never seen before.
00:42:59.860And I also just want to say that Tucker Carlson was amazing last night as well.
00:43:05.220I know he's catching a lot of flack, but his message was very important.
00:43:08.120He shared the story of Christ and that these people who plot and lie and, you know, censor and pass laws, all it ever does inevitably is the exact opposite of what they're hoping that it does.
00:43:20.540And that really is the lesson of the Lord.
00:43:24.380That is the lesson of all of the plots failing.
00:43:27.160And here is a clip of what Tucker Carlson had to say last night.
00:43:30.420The main thing about Charlie and his message, he was bringing the gospel to the country.
00:43:38.140He was doing the thing that the people in charge hate most, which is calling for them to repent.
00:43:44.640So how is Charlie's message different?
00:43:49.280And Charlie was a political person who was deeply interested in coalition building and in getting the right people in office because he knew that vast improvements are possible politically.
00:44:02.120But he also knew that politics is not the final answer.
00:44:06.340It can't answer the deepest questions, actually.
00:44:19.560Politics at its core is a process of critiquing other people and getting them to change.
00:44:26.920Christianity, the gospel message, the message of Jesus, begins with repentance.
00:44:34.960Christianity calls upon you to change.
00:44:40.420Our core prayer given to us by Jesus, the Lord's Prayer, demands that we forgive other people.
00:44:48.860But preceding that is a request for our forgiveness.
00:44:52.760In other words, forgive us, our sins, meditate on what we've done wrong, how we've fallen short, and then it becomes possible to forgive other people.
00:45:03.540That is a call to change our hearts from Jesus.
00:45:12.860And I will say this, like I am on this journey to figure out what happened on that day.
00:45:16.340I'm not going to stop unless Erica Kirk asks me to stop, as I have said, or my father, or my husband asks me to stop because truth matters.
00:45:25.400And I think it is amazing that Erica found it in her heart to forgive.
00:45:31.060But it is also my belief that there are more people involved that are in need of forgiveness.
00:45:38.660Like I said, a lot more of what I have found out.
00:45:40.600And I want to be really methodical about releasing information.
00:45:43.660But this one, they chose the wrong person.
00:45:46.920They chose the wrong person to take out.
00:45:50.820Anyways, you guys, before I get to some of your comments, by the way, I think I went off air on Friday and didn't read comments from last week.
00:45:55.900So I'm going to read some of those and then get into this.
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00:49:07.220And Jack Posobiec, by the way, every single time that I have been attacked publicly, particularly over the declaration that Christ is king,
00:49:15.960it's like a trigger for Jack Posobiec.
00:54:45.640I did not know that you don't even use a screwdriver to take that apart.
00:54:49.640They're, look, they're doing their best, okay?
00:54:53.820They're doing their best to come up with a story that works, and none of them do.
00:54:57.560Whitney writes, something about Dr. Frank Turek isn't sitting right with me.
00:55:01.280Unsure if he's having some unfounded guilt about not doing more, and that's making him seem suspicious or whatnot, but I cannot shake the unsettling feeling in my gut regarding him.
00:55:11.200Yeah, I mean, I thought his speech was not the direction that I would have gone on had I have been invited to speak.
00:55:18.640Like, I am not saying, yeah, to, like, he's guilty about something, but I am saying that, like, a lot of people had that feeling having watched his speech.
00:55:25.920And, of course, I think he was a Marine in the past before.
00:56:29.020Seven, it's telling if they make him a memorial like JFK.
00:56:33.100Look, I think by the time we're done investigating this, we're going to have a lot of questions about who had the audacity to honor him last night.
00:58:41.200We should be, no matter what, defending one another.
00:58:43.820He obviously didn't convert, but also the nastiness towards Catholics just needs to stop, point blank.
00:58:50.460I mean, Erica Kirk was raising a Catholic family, so that was a strange thing to have people react so crazy.
00:58:57.080I don't lie because I always know that eventually daylight comes in and things get exposed.
00:59:03.060And so I'm excited to hear her speak about the pressure that he was under, as was alluded to by Alex Clark, to speak about whether or not he was offered more money, whether he lost money, which he did.
00:59:15.600I was told that individual was Bob Shulman, as I said last week, that took away millions of dollars from Turning Point, wanted his name taken off the building, and then changed his mind to 180 when Charlie died.
00:59:27.600I mean, there was more than just him, obviously, but he was getting pressure from donors.
00:59:30.540I mean, I think he said it on his show.
00:59:33.560So, yeah, that is, daylight is always the best disinfectant.
00:59:37.660Anyways, you guys, thank you for all the support.
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