Candace and her co-host Candice speak with Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk, about her case against Tyler Robinson and his possible involvement in the murder of her husband, Charlie Kirk. They also discuss the growing number of theories surrounding the case, including the possibility that it may have been an inside job.
00:00:00.000Okay, I will be very honest. I am in a bit of a mood today. I am just annoyed with everybody. I'm annoyed with this entire psychological operation that is so obvious. And I just feel like we keep going round and round in a circle with the government. You know, whether it's COVID, the Ukraine war, it's like the entire media apparatus and establishment is joining hands to condemn people for having common sense.
00:00:26.040So I'll ask you a question to begin this. Do you feel, show of hands, okay, that the answer regarding who killed Charlie Kirk and what happened on September 10th is, quote unquote, very clear? Objectively, like even if you are somebody who is on the side of those who do believe that Tyler Robinson pulled the trigger one way or another, would you ever describe what happened as, quote unquote, very clear?
00:00:54.860I'm guessing your answer to that would be no. I am asking you that because Erica Kirk believes it to be so. And I guess this is kind of the final stop. I'm hoping it's the final stop of this PR campaign where they are now pivoting and bringing Erica out to signal to the public that we can't question her judgment, right? Because she's a widow, we can't question her judgment.
00:01:19.020And I want to say that I reject that. I reject emotional manipulation. I want to give people at home the permission to avoid a trap of thinking that you have to arrive at the same conclusions as Erica Kirk, especially when the story that we have been presented thus far makes little sense, if any sense.
00:01:39.680It makes, I think, virtually no sense. To that end, later on in the show, we will discuss Tyler Robinson, who has now made his first in-person appearance in court. And I guess the good news there is that we know he exists. Welcome back to Candace.
00:02:10.680Let's just start with the talking points. Let's join the members of the press and the influencers, okay? Here's what we're saying. Let's be influenced. Talking points. There's a bigger mission at bay. We need to focus on a larger, bigger mission.
00:02:25.620Another talking point. It's going to ruin the trial. If you guys keep thinking that things don't make sense, you could ruin the case. And the final stop, of course, in these talking points is this is an illness, right? There's something wrong with you at home if you don't find what we are telling you to be true. Trust us, okay? You're mentally unwell.
00:02:48.620What we are looking at right now is a badly run PR campaign. I am saying that it is badly run because it's recognizable. A good PR campaign is not recognizable. A bad PR campaign is an obvious one. And I am going to request respectfully, I know it's not going to be honored, I'm going to respectfully request that all of these agent smiths in this obvious matrix just stop, okay?
00:03:18.100This PR campaign, it's been nonstop since Charlie was shot. It was honestly dead on arrival, okay? We do not trust this. We do not believe this. And yet, we are wildly kind of in this position where they're testing to see how many times they can say the same thing before they convince everybody else at home that it's true, okay?
00:03:41.880Their equation that they seem to be running, if it's that formula, is talking points multiplied by 10,000 talking heads must equal results, okay?
00:03:54.700They believe that with enough of an echo, they can override basic human instinct, basic intellect, really.
00:04:03.060There is, I would like to be very clear, nothing that feels right to me about the Charlie Kirk assassination and especially the way that some of his employees and friends have been behaving since that assassination.
00:04:18.980And I'll preface this with, I am very sorry if that offends you, Erica. Genuinely, I am sorry that there is no amount of increase in pressure and propaganda and headlines written about me that are going to convince me, and by the way, I'm just the conduit, right?
00:04:37.340You're attacking me, you're attacking me, but you're angry that also the masses have not accepted this.
00:04:42.160There's not a number that is going to convince the masses that his neck, human neck, stopped a 30-odd-six bullet, okay?
00:04:55.900And not even just stop the bullet. I also want to be clear here.
00:04:58.940It's not just that they're saying that it ricocheted and it stopped, and this would maybe be the first time in human history.
00:05:04.500And please, if you do know a story, you've got an old article, I don't care where it's from, if you saved a newspaper article from the early 1900s in your family of an example, I don't think that bullet existed then, but like of a 30-odd-six being stopped by a human neck, please present it.
00:05:20.100I'd like to show that it is possible, right?
00:05:22.980It is actually, this happened one time down in Texas, it's possible.
00:05:26.400But not only are they saying that they stopped it, but I want to remind you that there was minimal damage to the front of Charlie's neck as well, okay?
00:05:32.960There was minimal damage to the front of Charlie's neck as well.
00:05:38.420So it didn't even cause a lot of, you know, damage as it went in.
00:05:44.420It just cleanly went in and then ricocheted downward into his stomach.
00:05:48.900I'm frustrated, obviously, for a lot of reasons, but Erica's, that's now being teased, the interview with Barry Weiss, it's being termed a town hall.
00:06:02.400And Barry is obviously just a Tel Aviv agent.
00:06:07.720Her entire background story, her rise, her studying in Tel Aviv, her family ties, the hand of Midas pulling her through the ranks a la Jeffrey Epstein.
00:06:17.040I mean, despite her sub-average intelligence, she's not interesting.
00:06:22.560She somehow becomes a chief over at CBS News, right?
00:06:25.880This actually, what I'm saying about Barry Weiss, this gets into Tucker's, quote-unquote, problematic speech at SAS when he jumped on stage and basically asked that question.
00:06:35.180How are all of these subpar people becoming billionaires?
00:06:43.620And they just seemingly are just getting all of this money and opportunities offered to them.
00:06:48.560This is clearly not a meritocracy that we're living under.
00:06:53.640It feels more like, and I'm saying this, more like a cartel.
00:06:57.720Okay, Barry Weiss is actually one of the people that we should study when it comes to being unimpressive and just getting handouts anyways.
00:07:38.340The podcaster Candace Owens, okay, at one time a friend of Charlie's, at one time an employee of Turning Point, she has been one of the main peddlers of these conspiracies, and she is making a huge amount of money on it.
00:07:53.080She is building her business off of these lies.
00:07:56.400What do you want to say to her and the other people that are putting these lies out into the world right now?
00:08:17.280I'm going to also let you know they prerecorded this.
00:08:19.780Obviously, I told you this yesterday from about 11 o'clock to 4 p.m.
00:08:23.580I have sources just everywhere, CBS News.
00:08:26.900The people that were in the audience I showed you were emailing me, and they had to do multiple takes because Barry wanted to read a prompter.
00:08:34.080These questions were pre-submitted, okay?
00:08:36.320And I would like to respond to this loaded question.
00:08:58.960It's like if you keep doing what you're already doing in podcasting or keep doing what you're already doing and doing ballistics on YouTube,
00:09:04.780if you catch a bunch of views, they want to convince you that, like, you wake up and you turn into a millionaire.
00:09:08.740Building her business, what are you talking about?
00:15:44.180And in case the direction of travel for CBS under the stewardship of Barry Weiss is not clear, they even brought in during this town hall the father of the young woman who was shot in D.C. at the Jewish Museum.
00:16:02.860They also brought out Hunter Kozak, who asked the last question to Charlie Kirk.
00:16:08.960They filled the audience with people selected by CBS, College Republicans, with questions selected by CBS.
00:16:17.420So it just is objectively a controlled and a managed situation, controlled and a managed conversation, if you will.
00:16:26.400But, and you can predict this, if you are at home this Saturday and you watch this and you're just, you know, a regular old person around the world and you go, this feels really scripted.
00:16:40.660The influencers are going to come out and they're going to mark you as evil, demonic even.
00:16:58.240Okay, we're going to get more because Erica also sat down with Glenn Beck of Blaze TV.
00:17:02.280Now, again, this is all a part of a PR blitz for Charlie's upcoming book on honoring the Shabbat, which I'm not going to be doing because I'm Christian.
00:18:17.360So I just want to say to first and foremost, Glenn setting that question up, I can't find to this day, because this just feels to me to be like the ultimate straw man, any commentator that has explicitly accused Erica of killing Charlie Kirk.
00:18:33.340I've seen psychological manipulation of influencers trying to say that if you critique turning point, that's akin to accusing Charlie Kirk of Erica Kirk of killing her husband, which is utterly ridiculous.
00:18:47.200But I have never seen, and maybe I've seen a lot, somebody come out and say Erica Kirk murdered Charlie.
00:18:54.480But that's what they set up, but that's what they set up always was like, I don't know how you are.
00:18:58.520I've seen people digging into her background.
00:19:00.760I've seen people speaking about her Romanian charity.
00:19:03.940I've seen people looking into her mother, all of that.
00:19:07.780I've seen all of that, but I have not yet seen where this idea that they keep trying to seed into our minds that asking any questions is equivalent to accusing her of murder.
00:19:21.960That even that feels manipulative to me.
00:19:26.880Then comes in this totally organic question from Glenn Beck, totally organic, right?
00:19:32.660And this is going to be the extreme appeal to authority, which is, OK, if we don't want to answer any questions, we're just going to say you don't understand how the court works.
00:19:44.100You shouldn't be asking questions because that's going to that could potentially ruin the upcoming trial.
00:20:53.420Okay, so this is what I mean where I I just feel like we're just doing the same thing over and over and over again in politics where you can just apply any situation like this is it's how it starts.
00:21:05.060It's like they come up with a narrative and it feels really stupid.
00:21:09.860You could like apply this to COVID, whatever.
00:21:11.360And then people start asking questions because it feels really stupid.
00:21:14.660And then they tell you like, oh, I wish you guys were more educated about science.
00:21:19.700I wish you guys were more educated about doctors and nurses.
00:21:25.320I wish you could explain to you how these things work.
00:21:27.040You're going to have to trust the experts.
00:21:29.640And yeah, I actually think that also because you guys are not trusting the experts, we're going to have to censor people on social media as they did during COVID because social media is problematic.
00:21:39.080Actually, the problem is free speech, ultimately, right?
00:21:41.880Like the problem is that you have people on social media who are talking common sense and they don't understand this.
00:21:50.120Okay, that's like I just that doesn't work for me.
00:21:54.280It doesn't work for me and it shouldn't work for you.
00:21:56.820So, and this next portion is where we get into the mass formation psychosis elements, which is when they're trying to modify our behavior, the behavior of the masses.
00:22:11.280And they kind of want us to all form around this idea.
00:22:16.900And this is kind of actually the we're all in this together psychology that you're about to see, right?
00:22:21.880The higher calling element of the psychological conditioning.
00:22:26.480The you guys are focusing on the minutia of that day and whether or not the government is involved with assassinating Charlie Kirk.
00:22:35.580But, you know, Tim Pool's telling you guys midterms, there's midterms and there's things that's the higher calling, right?
00:22:43.000The masses, the masses should get around that higher calling.
00:22:47.260Like, even if it goes against your gut to mask your toddler, even if it goes against your gut to let your grandma die alone in a hospital,
00:22:57.080even if something is screaming at you and you're saying, why does this all feel abusive, like abusive to toddlers, abusive to our grandparents, let them die alone?
00:23:09.280Why does it feel to me, my instinct tells me that we shouldn't put medical masks on toddlers who can't see expressions?
00:23:17.280Well, the higher calling is that you should always ignore your gut, right?
00:23:23.600Because we're all in this together and there's something bigger that we can aspire to.
00:23:28.120You should violate your gut instinct and that's what's coming next.
00:24:54.720I reject that there's a higher calling that we need to all get around and the legacy of, actually, the legacy, if we find out that the government is implicated, and it looks like to me, and I think a lot of people on the outside, the government is implicated.
00:25:07.480Otherwise, it wouldn't require every department of the government using propaganda to convince us against common sense, okay?
00:25:15.340And if we find out that the government is implicated, then actually his legacy is going to be that a person who gave all of himself to helping people get elected, all of himself to this political machine, was ultimately killed by it.
00:25:34.400And I think that matters to a lot of people, and I think it's obvious it matters to a lot of people because what feels like a billion-dollar campaign of propaganda against it doesn't seem to be working.
00:25:45.460There is something very big that we are very close to unpacking here, and the panic that we sense right now in deploying what feels to me to be a really nasty emotional tactic here, basically trying to say to people,
00:26:04.400how dare you go against the grieving widow, how dare you go against David Hogg, right?
00:26:09.280And you're like, well, I don't know if David Hogg, I know he's, I'm very sad, obviously, that a school shooting happened, the Parkland shooting at high school should not happen, no child should have lived to that, but why does that mean David Hogg gets to go to Harvard, right?
00:26:22.040Does that make sense? Like, does he belong at Harvard? And they go, oh, how dare, oh my, how my, how you evil, demonic person, are you possessed?
00:26:31.460How could you ever question his authority and whether or not he's equipped to run the charity and speak on, you know, gun issues? He survived a school shooting. That's what they're doing right now.
00:26:44.080And I want to also say that why I don't love these interviews, and I am, I say this with great deference to Erica, and in the beginning with some of these interviews, I said, look, like, of course, they're going to want to make sure they screen these questions.
00:27:03.160Like, she's going through a lot. Like, she's transitioning, she's doing this, she's like, I was like, I wouldn't want to be in her position. We're three months in now, okay? We are still getting rehearsed answers.
00:27:12.780And I feel like what is missing from all of this is, I don't know, like, passion, normal passion, not this, like, chat, GBT feeling of, well, we all need to unite around the mission.
00:27:28.280It's like, no, I don't really care about Cash. I would just be like, what is the borough doing? Has anybody traced this down? Okay, I don't know if Candace is crazy, but she says the French Foreign Legion was there.
00:27:40.920Has anybody traced this down? I text her, I got this information. Okay, it's wrong. That's a dead end. Let me move over here. I've got files. I'm running, I'm going to run this investigation alongside you, Cash.
00:27:48.980And I don't know what he's doing. I want, like, one critique of the FBI, one critique of anything which the public is saying is worthy of critique. Like, it's almost like you're dressing down public perception.
00:28:05.120Like, people think that you can have enough money to just cut over people's gut instincts. That's what it is. It feels like we're so rich, you don't have the right to think.
00:28:17.440Okay, we are rich enough to remove that. So stop thinking. The elites are here. It feels elite. That's why I hate this. It feels elite. It feels like the opposite of whatever turning point felt like when they were the underdogs, right?
00:28:35.500This entire presentation is elite. I'm on CBS stage with pre-priced questions and Barry Weiss, and I obviously have rehearsed this answer because I got these questions ahead of time.
00:28:47.080I obviously know I'm going to get asked this, so I'm going to delete. I don't even like, and this is a fact, you can ask anybody who's ever interviewed me.
00:28:54.740I never ask for questions ahead of time. I don't want to know. I don't want to know the direction it's going into.
00:28:58.780I never give them anything. I never say we can't talk about this. Nothing's off record because even getting questions ahead to me, preparing answers feels faking gay, right?
00:29:10.880That just feels rehearsed because it is. It has to be rehearsed because you've got the questions ahead of time.
00:29:17.480And at this stage, I don't like it. I don't like it. I want something that feels anywhere where it feels authentic, like one question mark that you have.
00:29:27.820You're like, oh, I'd like you to be like, I don't know about those text messages. I think Tyler Robinson pulled the trigger, but those text messages are weird.
00:29:35.700It's just I trust my team. My team is amazing. And my favorite date is April 24th because it's not too hot and it's not too cold.
00:29:45.340And all you need is a light jacket. Like it feels it feels fake. It does. I'm sorry.
00:29:51.100And I am still interested in getting basic answers to our questions.
00:29:56.440I don't accept that that's somehow going to ruin the court case because that's a nonsense.
00:30:00.580You cannot logically explain to the public how letting us see Mikey McCoy's phone records, just one example, if that's really causing you so much grief.
00:30:09.720Here they are. Here's who we called on that day and for how long. How would that implicate?
00:30:15.180How would that frustrate your lawyer's efforts?
00:30:18.620How would the current court case and the jury pool be impacted if you answered about why these Egyptian planes, why it's a statistical anomaly for these Egyptian planes to be surrounding Turning Point USA, Faith, Events, you and Charlie this many times?
00:30:36.780How would that impact? And again, I'm a gut player. It's common sense.
00:30:40.940So forgive me for not being elite enough and educated enough and expert enough to understand how it would impact things.
00:30:47.740Explain it to me like I'm not a legal expert, you know, like I don't trust legal experts.
00:30:52.500I think they're all full of shit. Explain it to me that way.
00:30:56.180It's not tracking. It's not tracking. And I am I I get it.
00:31:01.400It's me against the whole world. Actually, it's not. It's me against the elites.
00:31:04.460We've done this a lot of times. Like I said, Ukraine, covid, there's a formula here.
00:31:10.580There's a pattern here. If all of the mainstream apparatus and all of the influencers are pushing something and calling the other thing evil, we're probably about two years away from them all then apologizing and being like, I just got it wrong.
00:31:28.160I shouldn't have told you to get the vaccine.
00:31:29.720You know, like it's a pattern that I've noticed. So I'm going to stick with saying that what happened on September 10th, we are not getting the truth about.
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