Candace Owens - UH-OH! Erika Kirk Goes Off On ＂Conspiracy Theorists＂. ｜ Candace Ep 278

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00:00:30.260 Now, I wasn't sure about Erica.

00:00:32.720 I was waiting, kind of a situation for her to be in, obviously having lost her husband, becoming the CEO and the chairman of a company.

00:00:42.480 It's just a lot of transition, and it's nice to wait for more information before you prejudge or just assume, make an assumption about somebody, and it maybe is not based in reality.

00:00:54.720 Well, we are getting a lot more of Erica Kirk this week.

00:00:57.580 I'll tell you that because she has been doing the rounds in the media really over the last couple of weeks, and she just gave an interview live with Harris Faulkner on Fox News where she finally addressed the quote-unquote conspiracy theories.

00:01:11.260 And I have to say this because it's true, but it completely missed the mark for me.

00:01:16.880 I am sorry, it just has, but the good news is that she is now unmerking the water in terms of her intentions with this massive political organization.

00:01:27.500 That's good news, truly, because we knew Charlie, and now we are getting an opportunity to know Erica.

00:01:32.920 Plus, later on in the show, it's knives out for Tucker Carlson, as always.

00:01:37.740 He's trending right now because he has officially waded into the who killed Charlie Kirk narrative, and since he is not a bought and paid for Fed, he is siding with not just the American people, people worldwide.

00:01:52.740 And he says that he is not buying the official narrative, and there are some lingering questions, and he confirms what I told you about the Egyptian planes.

00:02:02.040 So, let's jump right back into this.

00:02:05.400 Welcome back to Candace.

00:02:06.220 Look, I have been very patient.

00:02:23.920 I do tend to focus on the evidence that's in front of us.

00:02:29.320 Obviously, asking questions when we come up across something that someone has said, and it doesn't add up, or if they lied, create a list.

00:02:36.300 And you guys were coming after me because I was saying, look, we can write into our imaginations how Erica is thinking or how she's feeling or what she should be wearing, but she hasn't actually said anything yet.

00:02:49.020 Right?

00:02:49.320 That was my stance.

00:02:50.100 She hasn't actually said anything yet.

00:02:52.080 Give her a chance.

00:02:54.040 And now, she is making the rounds in the press because Charlie's book, his posthumus book, is coming out about the Sabbath, and she's speaking about the quote-unquote conspiracies as she sits down with a lot of these news anchors.

00:03:13.520 So, first and foremost, she's sitting down here with Harris Faulkner, and I just want to show you a couple of clips from this sit-down, which is now trending.

00:03:19.660 And she begins by addressing the question, which has been in the air, regarding where Charlie Kirk is buried.

00:03:28.820 That question resurfaced this week in a big way because Milo Yiannopoulos and a few others have asserted with absolute certainty that Charlie has not yet been buried.

00:03:39.400 That's what they're saying.

00:03:40.440 They say they have proof of that.

00:03:42.040 And at first, Harris Faulkner is asking about that claim.

00:03:47.380 Take a listen.

00:03:47.840 Talk to me about this part of the conspiracies that are out there, this disturbing part that people are trying to guess where Charlie is.

00:03:57.360 Can I have one thing?

00:04:00.220 Can I have one thing?

00:04:03.800 Can my children have one thing?

00:04:07.500 Everything was public.

00:04:09.140 We will be building the most beautiful memorial for my husband at Turning Point USA, and it will be for the world to see, and it will be spectacular, and it will have basically museum style for our Charlie, for my Charlie.

00:04:24.860 But can I have one thing?

00:04:25.860 Can my babies have one thing where we hold it sacred, where my husband is laid to rest, where I don't have to be worried about some secular revolutionary coming and destroying my husband's grave while my daughter is sitting there praying?

00:04:40.240 One thing, one thing, that this is my husband, yes, he was Charlie Kirk to the world, and I know so many people love my husband, and I am grateful for that.

00:04:49.260 But this is my husband, and I want to be able to have one thing left that is sacred to our family, to my in-laws, to my babies, and to my parents.

00:05:00.760 One thing.

00:05:01.220 Okay, so on its face, I actually agree with that.

00:05:06.340 I think that when people are being buried and where they're being buried and how their funerals are done, that is very private matter, okay?

00:05:16.660 So objectively, I agree with what she's saying, okay?

00:05:20.460 But subjectively, because we are dealing with the subject of Erica Kirk and what transpired immediately following Charlie's assassination, this is going to be read as Meghan Markle syndrome, okay?

00:05:34.340 Meghan Markle syndrome, where you want privacy when you want it, but you want publicity whenever you want it, and that just doesn't work, okay?

00:05:42.220 It doesn't work that way.

00:05:43.180 Okay, I honestly think it was said best by Bethany Frankel, not related to this situation.

00:05:48.480 Bethany Frankel is on Real Housewives, a reality show, and she was referring to one of the housewives who lived her life very publicly, showcased her marriage, was buying tons of Louis Vuitton bags, and they had tons of money.

00:06:01.540 And then when their relationship soured, the housewife basically asked the public for privacy, and Bethany was like, no, this isn't how it works.

00:06:08.760 Like, we were riding with you on the way up.

00:06:10.480 We're riding with you on the way out.

00:06:11.860 You don't get to, like, pick and choose when you want privacy and when you don't want privacy.

00:06:16.460 And subjectively, as it, you know, in the matter of Erica Kirk, this is the same person who recorded, had somebody record her over Charlie Kirk's casket.

00:06:27.320 That was not our business, truly.

00:06:29.340 And I can say that decision was made by her, and there is, yeah, some credence to the claim that everybody grieves differently.

00:06:37.000 I wouldn't even record myself over a casket ever, okay?

00:06:40.380 Some people maybe perhaps want to have that memory, but the decision to publish that, you crying over your husband's casket,

00:06:48.220 and to publish his dead body on Instagram was a decision that was made by Erica, and we can watch that.

00:06:52.980 Take a look.

00:06:53.640 That is an incredibly personal and an incredibly intimate moment.

00:07:23.040 An intimate moment that you invited the public into, okay?

00:07:26.320 There was no reason to do that outside of wanting to share something that was very private with the public.

00:07:33.440 And now you fast forward three months removed, and it's why does the public want to know where he's buried?

00:07:40.460 It doesn't work like that.

00:07:41.560 You have to make a decision.

00:07:43.460 I want this always to be private, or I want this always to be public.

00:07:46.320 That's my personal feedback there.

00:07:48.920 Later on in this same interview, she launches into a strong defense of Turning Point USA employees who have, just as a matter of fact, told many lies, many inconsistencies.

00:07:59.680 These are verifiable.

00:08:00.880 So they are currently lying to the public, or they have lied to the public, but she is going to deliver quite an impassioned defense regarding these particular individuals and the organization as a whole.

00:08:13.080 And I want you to hear her passion.

00:08:14.820 Take a listen.

00:08:16.140 What are they taking from you right now?

00:08:18.600 Nothing.

00:08:19.720 But I will tell you what they are doing.

00:08:22.880 It reminds me so much of chapter six in the book of Nehemiah.

00:08:27.640 He is building a wall, and the townspeople are at the base of that hill saying, Nehemiah, calling him all these names, saying all these things, come on down.

00:08:39.020 Every single time, he had the same message four times in a row.

00:08:42.960 I cannot come down.

00:08:43.940 I am busy building.

00:08:45.400 That is how I feel.

00:08:46.820 I do not have time to address the noise.

00:08:49.220 My silence does not mean that I am complacent.

00:08:51.940 My silence does not mean that somehow Turning Point USA and all of the hand-picked staff that loved my husband and my husband loved them is somehow in on it.

00:09:03.080 We are busy building.

00:09:04.640 And you know what I thought?

00:09:05.700 I thought these people are human.

00:09:07.860 We are all grieving in our own way.

00:09:09.780 And they are trying to find the answer to something that happened that was so evil.

00:09:14.560 They are trying so hard.

00:09:15.820 And I get that.

00:09:16.860 We're doing the same.

00:09:17.720 Any time we hear a lead or any time we hear anything, we send it to the authorities.

00:09:22.880 Please dig into this.

00:09:24.180 No rock will be unturned.

00:09:27.020 I want justice for my husband, for myself, for my family, more than anyone else out there.

00:09:33.320 So for me, you want to keep telling me to come down while we're building?

00:09:37.720 I don't have time for that.

00:09:39.560 But here's my breaking point on that.

00:09:42.240 Come after me.

00:09:43.260 Call me names.

00:09:43.920 I don't care.

00:09:45.060 Call me what you want. 0.99

00:09:45.960 Go down that rabbit hole. 0.97

00:09:48.120 Whatever.

00:09:49.740 But when you go after my family, my Turning Point USA family, my Charlie Kirk show family,

00:09:55.340 when you go after the people that I love, and you're making hundreds and thousands of dollars

00:10:01.100 every single episode going after the people that I love because somehow they're in on this.

00:10:09.460 No.

00:10:09.980 I'm sorry, but that whole thing right there is frustrating, and I'm going to explain to

00:10:18.100 you why I just do not accept any of that.

00:10:20.720 First and foremost, the idea that she does not have time.

00:10:24.400 Okay.

00:10:24.500 She definitely has time.

00:10:25.840 Okay.

00:10:26.040 She's done Hannity. 0.93

00:10:26.980 She's done The Five.

00:10:27.740 She's done Fox and Friends.

00:10:28.720 She's done Outnumbered.

00:10:29.640 She's done Megyn Kelly Live. 0.53

00:10:30.940 She sat down with The New York Times.

00:10:32.520 She made time, by the way, in case you don't remember, to fly to D.C. for Sergio Gore to

00:10:38.920 be sworn into the ambassador to India, as the ambassador to India, which feels kind of obscure

00:10:44.960 and not necessarily related to Turning Point USA affairs, building affairs, or whatever

00:10:49.060 it is.

00:10:49.920 But sure, that's fine.

00:10:50.780 I mean, obviously, you're also allowed to be a person if that's the homie and that's 1.00

00:10:53.520 what you want to do.

00:10:54.640 Sure.

00:10:54.920 But we are indeed speaking about a coast-to-coast flight to stand up next to somebody and basically

00:11:03.000 say, Charlie, Charlie loved you.

00:11:04.380 That was like the whatever 15-second speech that she gave, right?

00:11:08.720 Here's actually, we have a clip of that speech that she gave.

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00:11:41.860 Well, he was also very good friends with a guy named Charlie.

00:11:45.160 We just knew him as Charlie, and his wife, who we love so much, is here with us.

00:11:50.280 And maybe, you know, how close they were together.

00:11:52.800 Maybe, Erica, you could say a couple of words, please.

00:11:55.100 I would honor you, sir.

00:11:57.020 Charlie loved you.

00:11:58.220 It's hard not to get emotional because I know that he would have been the first phone

00:12:02.540 call when he found out that you were going to be taking this position.

00:12:07.060 And the way that I was able to witness the two of you work together for years and to champion

00:12:13.880 and support the President was absolutely humbling to witness.

00:12:19.220 And I am so proud of you.

00:12:21.020 And Charlie is going to be with you every single day in spirit.

00:12:24.800 And I will be praying for you every day because I know that this is just the beginning of an

00:12:29.520 incredible opportunity for you.

00:12:31.200 And, sir, thank you for allowing Sergio to have this beautiful moment.

00:12:36.620 Thank you very much.

00:12:37.580 Thank you, Julia.

00:12:39.620 That's just an ambassador to India swearing-in ceremony.

00:12:42.460 Again, if that's your friend and you want to be there, that makes sense.

00:12:44.600 She's also a person, and she can decide what she wants to do there.

00:12:48.360 But the point that I am making is that's a coastal flight that she made to be there to

00:12:51.880 watch a paper get signed.

00:12:53.500 She has also made time for an upcoming CBS News Town Hall sit-down with Barry Weiss,

00:12:58.640 which was filmed today.

00:13:00.480 So Erica Kirk has time.

00:13:03.200 She has time.

00:13:04.140 It is just what she means to say, not her priority, which is you are allowed to prioritize

00:13:10.200 things in your own life.

00:13:12.660 But this is not a matter of time constraint.

00:13:15.620 It is not her priority to respond to the majority, actually.

00:13:22.400 The majority of people think of this as BS.

00:13:25.040 The majority of people think Turning Point is acting suspicious.

00:13:29.220 And she does not feel that it is what she wants to do as a matter of priority, responding.

00:13:36.480 Okay?

00:13:36.720 That's fine.

00:13:37.280 Now, to that point that people are making hundreds and thousands of dollars, I just don't get

00:13:46.960 how there's not someone on this very large PR team, as we're seeing these PR campaigns

00:13:51.540 go out, that doesn't go, hey, maybe we should strike that.

00:13:53.420 You know, like, you know, they made $40 million like two nights ago at Mar-a-Lago.

00:13:59.860 Maybe that feels kind of a little bit like let them eat cake-ish.

00:14:02.460 Oh, and we've made more than, separately from Mar-a-Lago, Turning Point USA, since Charlie

00:14:07.360 was killed, just so you guys know, this is a fact, has made more than $100 million.

00:14:13.060 That is separate from the $40 million they made at Mar-a-Lago the other night.

00:14:17.400 So since Charlie has died, that organization has taken in $140 million. 0.61

00:14:22.960 But gosh darn you people that are making hundreds of dollars every day on YouTube talking about 0.92

00:14:32.140 Charlie Kirk's assassination and the BS narrative that is being fed and the very obvious psychological 0.98

00:14:37.660 operation that is being employed to make you accept the BS that they are trying to sell

00:14:44.200 to us. 0.99

00:14:45.040 Gosh darn you. 1.00

00:14:46.300 Thousands? 0.99

00:14:46.800 Did you make $1,000 today?

00:14:48.740 Speaking about Charlie Kirk, well, you should be ashamed of yourself, says Turning Point USA.

00:14:53.240 Who, in large part, made that money because of those very people who gave to the organization

00:14:59.820 immediately following Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:15:03.720 And the thing that is especially absurd about that is trying to like, almost like, I want

00:15:11.920 to be clear that Turning Point USA is my family.

00:15:14.820 The Charlie Kirk show is my family.

00:15:16.920 You know, like, she's just expanding the wings of people that we're not allowed to critique

00:15:22.520 because they're in the family.

00:15:24.260 If you call them fam, you can't critique them, right?

00:15:27.260 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:15:28.180 We actually are showing a clip of Rob McCoy defending a pedophile or trying to, like, launder

00:15:32.860 the reputation of, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, that's fam.

00:15:37.600 That's the CK show fam.

00:15:39.120 Um, oh, I'm sorry.

00:15:40.420 Uh, we are actually pointing to the fact that we know for certain that this person in your 0.80

00:15:44.920 organization is a sexual deviant. 0.88

00:15:46.600 Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, that's fam. 0.88

00:15:49.060 That's my, that is my, don't you get me upset.

00:15:51.440 I know that this is a now $150 million in the last three month organization and we employ

00:15:57.600 tons of people, but you can't, you can't critique.

00:16:00.760 You can't critique the fam.

00:16:01.660 And I hate to say this, but I'm going to be very clear here.

00:16:04.400 This is why there are many people who do not believe that women are equipped to lead

00:16:09.560 companies because what you are watching here is an unbelievably emotional response that

00:16:14.640 is absent of any logic.

00:16:16.040 Okay.

00:16:16.580 If you really care about your team, answer the questions.

00:16:21.240 Okay.

00:16:22.060 Just demystify the entire event, answer, come out, sit down, answer the questions.

00:16:27.000 So people don't think Turning Point USA looks so suspicious.

00:16:30.280 Don't try to like mom the organization and say, well, mother's upset.

00:16:34.400 Because people are coming after her kids and all of this subsidy, multi-million dollar 0.61

00:16:38.940 subsidiaries.

00:16:39.920 That's my children.

00:16:41.360 Okay.

00:16:41.960 The, the multi-million dollar subsidiaries, Turning Point, like Turning Point Action, all

00:16:45.120 that.

00:16:45.360 Those are my kids.

00:16:46.480 So you can't critique them.

00:16:48.640 Not a good idea.

00:16:50.080 Okay.

00:16:50.380 It may work in PR world.

00:16:52.280 You guys, I know how this, it's an obvious PR campaign.

00:16:54.940 It's never been more obvious of a psychological operation.

00:16:57.200 I actually wish they would put me on payroll so I could help them make these things look more

00:17:01.980 organic than having every single person that has been telling us to stop asking questions

00:17:06.420 all make the exact same video within four seconds of each other being like, whoa, whoa,

00:17:12.920 Erica Kirk shuts down.

00:17:14.960 No, she didn't even respond to one of the conspiracies.

00:17:17.980 She gave us a motion. 0.65

00:17:19.060 She gave us a motion. 0.65

00:17:21.620 She said, I'm a mother.

00:17:23.080 I am a wife.

00:17:24.160 And we never asked about whether she was mother or wife.

00:17:26.460 We want to know if she is a CEO and a chairman and a CEO and a chairman has to 1.00

00:17:31.360 complementalize.

00:17:32.080 A CEO and a chairman cannot respond to valid questions and critiques about finances, about

00:17:38.580 shady actions that are being taken by people that require presidential pardons, people that

00:17:44.380 are meaningfully asking why we are not getting a clear answer of what took place on September

00:17:49.460 10th.

00:17:49.820 A CEO, okay, does not get to respond and say, that's my family.

00:17:55.940 Okay, that's my, that's my, that is what I, that's the energy of what I would expect from

00:18:02.180 a mother speaking to a teacher, which I was this mom, like that's my kid, okay?

00:18:09.600 And there, I'll shut this down right now.

00:18:11.880 That's my child.

00:18:12.580 This is not a child.

00:18:13.980 Turning Point USA is an organization and Erica already had an uphill battle to climb, like 0.69

00:18:19.380 she had to climb this because by the way, just because if this was Goldman Sachs and

00:18:25.740 the president of Goldman Sachs or managing director over at Goldman Sachs died in a horrifically

00:18:31.180 violent way, the Goldman Sachs family might mourn for a couple of months, but they would

00:18:40.300 have instantly had someone to replace that individual.

00:18:43.180 And beyond that, they would have never accepted the public and the people that are investing

00:18:50.320 money.

00:18:50.720 They would have never accepted, well, he's gone, but here's his wife.

00:18:53.800 She already had enough hill to climb here, right?

00:18:57.680 Like, this does not make you qualified because you love someone to take on their job.

00:19:01.380 I am not qualified to do what my husband does.

00:19:03.760 That's why I said I would, I wouldn't want to be the CEO and the chairman of a company.

00:19:07.060 Actually, there's a great clip of Jordan Peterson asking that very question.

00:19:10.700 Like, why do women want to be? 1.00

00:19:12.380 Like, why would you want to have, it's actually a lot of work and it's very stressful and it's

00:19:15.680 a lot of numbers and you're crunching numbers and you have to be everywhere.

00:19:18.620 Where, okay, if you want that, great.

00:19:21.500 If you built the company and you're in the room like Charlie Kirk did and you have proven

00:19:26.320 to the public, like, hey, I built this company, I didn't even go to college and I've been

00:19:30.720 doing this for over a decade as Charlie Kirk did, you've earned that street cred, okay?

00:19:35.400 So she already had a hill to climb because now they're saying, well, this is his wife and

00:19:39.860 so, you know, that's it.

00:19:43.440 Well, now you're going to have to prove that you have the ability to be a CEO and a chairman

00:19:46.040 and not just a wife who we expect emotion from and you have, you're rightful in that

00:19:50.540 capacity.

00:19:51.100 You are rightful to have emotion.

00:19:52.520 You are rightful to be the aggrieved widow, but you don't get to just be widowed into the 0.99

00:19:56.900 position of chairman and CEO.

00:19:58.040 You don't get to respond to, well, in this case, investors, donors who have given money

00:20:03.440 and are asking meaningful questions with, no, you don't, you, you don't, you don't get

00:20:08.420 replies right now because this, this is the Charlie Kirk show fam.

00:20:11.440 It doesn't work this way, okay?

00:20:12.980 Um, and the broader point, removed from Erica, which a lot of these mockingbird influencers 0.95

00:20:21.040 seem to be making, is essentially they're saying to us that scientific inquiry and investigation

00:20:27.360 in and of itself is now patently wrong, right?

00:20:31.220 Essentially, we should just trust the state.

00:20:33.820 Don't believe your own instincts.

00:20:35.420 Don't believe your own eyes.

00:20:36.640 Don't ask any questions. 0.98

00:20:37.660 And I really want to stress to you guys how utterly ridiculous that logic is, right?

00:20:42.000 Because if we follow that logic in any other situation, there would never be a crime solved

00:20:48.020 ever, okay?

00:20:49.160 If we just ascribed to the idea that scientific investigation is on its face wrong, it would

00:20:55.880 not work.

00:20:56.520 I'll give you a crappy analogy here, but imagine if there's like some young mother and she dies

00:21:02.540 suddenly in the middle of the night, presumably in the middle of the night.

00:21:05.380 And her husband is the first one to report it in the morning and the cops show up who

00:21:10.240 happened to be his buddies.

00:21:11.600 They get there and then they dramatically close the case in 48 hours.

00:21:15.960 And neighbors are like, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:21:18.080 Excuse me, officers.

00:21:18.940 Actually, you might want to know some other facts here about this guy.

00:21:22.020 Like, you know, he's in the mafia.

00:21:23.220 These people would be like, how dare you question the people closest to, he loved her.

00:21:29.600 That's his wife. 0.99

00:21:30.760 Being a gang member is not evidence.

00:21:32.660 Why are you saying he's a gang member?

00:21:34.440 It's not evidence.

00:21:35.900 You get another nosy neighbor who produces evidence that in the middle of the night before

00:21:39.980 she died, they saw the guy outside, the husband outside removing cameras in the front

00:21:45.240 yard.

00:21:46.400 That's not evidence.

00:21:48.340 Yeah, but I saw him go out in the middle.

00:21:49.880 He put something in his car in the trunk.

00:21:51.420 He was looking shady.

00:21:52.120 That's not evidence.

00:21:53.020 How dare you find that to be suspicious?

00:21:56.120 More nosy neighbors start discussing.

00:21:58.880 And they were like, hey, we heard him.

00:21:59.840 They were having actually a heated argument before she was found dead.

00:22:02.800 It was I think it was about money.

00:22:04.400 All of a sudden, the next thing you know, you got Allie Stuckey from the HOA.

00:22:08.120 She blasts out an email and she says, it's unbiblical.

00:22:10.720 It's unbiblical to gossip. 0.65

00:22:12.380 Hearing an argument is not hard evidence.

00:22:14.800 You have no right to discuss it.

00:22:16.880 Yeah, we're the nosy neighbors.

00:22:18.880 Okay, we put together a list of 20 verifiable lies that have been told in the weeks following

00:22:25.140 this sudden death event.

00:22:27.360 And yeah, we have some questions.

00:22:30.380 So we're not going to accept Tim Pool jumping on the airwaves with big estrogen energy telling

00:22:36.080 us we're evil because we have like school board elections next Thursday.

00:22:40.480 We're the nosy neighbors.

00:22:42.280 We don't care about the elections coming up.

00:22:44.900 We want to know whether or not we are in bed with people who are capable of murder, people

00:22:51.700 that are capable of covering up murders.

00:22:53.740 Actually, we, the nosy neighbors, feel a little bit less safe in this neighborhood until we know

00:22:59.340 whether or not there are some psychopathic killers in our midst.

00:23:02.640 How about that?

00:23:04.600 That's how I feel.

00:23:06.080 I think that's how a lot of people feel right now.

00:23:07.460 So I want to express that.

00:23:08.740 And this psychological campaign filled with emotional manipulation and how dare you and

00:23:14.200 oh, the, you know, the agreed widow speaks.

00:23:16.940 And so we, you're not allowed to question $150 million organization.

00:23:20.540 No, I reject it.

00:23:21.740 I reject that 100%.

00:23:22.960 Which is why I will say it has arrived as a blast of fresh air that on this very same

00:23:29.680 day, Tucker Carlson is standing up to the nonsense.

00:23:34.160 He's not speaking about Erica, obviously.

00:23:36.000 He is friends with Erica.

00:23:38.600 But just the nonsense of what the FBI is saying, he's waiting in and saying, yeah, the FBI is

00:23:43.540 not being clear in what happened.

00:23:44.920 And I have questions because, and I think it feels like a fresh air, a blast of fresh air

00:23:50.740 because I, and I know many people at home, are seeing all of these people that we followed

00:23:57.720 and we thought that they were heroes.

00:24:00.400 And suddenly this assassination has exposed them all to be frauds.

00:24:04.080 You know, like for the right price, they will join Operation Mockingbird.

00:24:08.580 For me personally, that is how I feel.

00:24:10.240 Okay.

00:24:11.000 Like people in the military that I thought were forthright, people that were, um, uh,

00:24:16.280 journalists that I thought were forthright.

00:24:17.680 I, I just am so let down and I don't think I would have been able to, to handle if Tucker

00:24:23.740 Carlson was among those people.

00:24:25.800 The, you need hard evidence as if the killer is going to walk in and be like, okay, here's

00:24:30.820 how I did it.

00:24:31.280 Okay.

00:24:31.800 I'm going to be the hard evidence.

00:24:32.600 I was here, here, there, like what?

00:24:36.060 Instead, Tucker Carlson is coming out and he is blasting the corporate and the fed narrative

00:24:40.460 with common sense.

00:24:41.640 Uh, he joined Theo Vaughn and here is what he had to say.

00:24:45.040 Take a listen.

00:24:46.420 I don't understand the official story at all.

00:24:50.380 Uh, I was, I don't, I don't, I don't understand it.

00:24:54.100 And I want to make sure that there is a, like a truly rigorous and honest federal investigation

00:25:00.520 of it.

00:25:01.140 And I'm definitely concerned about that.

00:25:02.980 A B the, I think that, um, one of the, I don't know many of the details, but I know

00:25:10.440 that, uh, recently Canada said that, uh, Egyptian registered aircraft were following, uh, Erica

00:25:19.220 Kirk, Charlie's widow around for a number of years in different places in the world.

00:25:23.960 That's one of the weirdest things I've ever heard.

00:25:25.660 And I just want to say that that is factually true.

00:25:28.880 That's true.

00:25:29.660 So that's like the one data point that I happen to know is true.

00:25:32.580 What does that mean?

00:25:33.480 I have literally no idea.

00:25:34.740 I can't even guess, but that's very, very strange.

00:25:38.180 And what does Egyptian, as it could mean aircraft from Egypt, who knows?

00:25:41.660 I think that they were registered in Egypt.

00:25:43.980 Got it.

00:25:44.280 And, um, so, but that, that fact is true.

00:25:46.960 So I, that enough, um, and, and it also her claim that, you know, there were kind of a

00:25:55.020 disproportionately large number of foreign registered cell phones at the event.

00:25:58.360 Um, that's also true.

00:25:59.460 So what does that add up, add up to?

00:26:01.620 I don't know, but it, it means that, you know, the FBI has a moral and legal obligation

00:26:08.580 to, to look in every direction and to be open-minded as you would in any investigation, in journalism,

00:26:16.040 in science, it's all the same process.

00:26:18.000 I don't know the answer.

00:26:19.160 And I'm going to sift through everything as open-mindedly as I can, as honestly as I can

00:26:23.820 to get to what the truth is.

00:26:25.020 That's, again, that's science, that's law enforcement, that's journalism.

00:26:28.380 It's all the same.

00:26:29.180 That's justice.

00:26:30.600 And I just want to make sure that is happening.

00:26:33.700 And I just don't have a ton of confidence in the FBI or the men who run it.

00:26:38.900 And I'm not saying that out of ignorance at all.

00:26:42.100 That's a scary part too.

00:26:43.360 I'm not alleging anything.

00:26:44.220 I'm just saying, I think it's really important that we have that.

00:26:48.460 That is what authenticity sounds like.

00:26:50.380 And that's what we're doing here.

00:26:51.640 We are investigating, right?

00:26:53.620 Sometimes you get something wrong, you correct it.

00:26:55.440 But I was right about the Egyptian planes.

00:26:57.120 And when you hear Tucker Carlson say that he is confirming that that part is true, what

00:27:01.220 I take from that, Tucker Carlson has been very clear.

00:27:04.180 He grew up with CIA agents, okay?

00:27:06.140 This is a guy who grew up in Virginia.

00:27:08.080 His father, he learns after his father died, he thought he was just working with the CIA.

00:27:11.080 No, his father was on the payroll of the CIA.

00:27:13.460 So Tucker's friends are in the state.

00:27:16.440 So you should take it as a concrete fact that there's something up with these Egyptian planes 1.00

00:27:22.720 and they were in fact following around Charlie and they were following around Erica, as I

00:27:25.940 told you.

00:27:27.140 And that means people in the NSA, the CIA are confirming that that is real.

00:27:33.000 And yet just last week, what we got from Blake Neff, and I know he's untouchable, he's in

00:27:37.180 the fam, but I'm going to go ahead and touch that and say like, this is not okay.

00:27:40.900 The vibe is not right, is making a mockery of it.

00:27:45.100 That is what we mean when we say none of this is passing the vibe check with Turning Point USA.

00:27:50.100 There's no clear answers.

00:27:51.900 There's mockery.

00:27:52.900 There's laughter.

00:27:53.680 But there's no clear answers.

00:27:55.500 And the mockery and the laughter is not working.

00:27:57.880 Neither is this idea that, well, now the widow has spoken.

00:28:02.640 We're not dealing with the widow.

00:28:03.740 We want the CEO and the chairman of Turning Point USA to answer.

00:28:09.740 Okay?

00:28:10.720 If you can't complementalize, then I don't see how you're going to be able to lead this

00:28:16.920 organization in the future because Charlie worked.

00:28:21.060 We knew who Charlie was because he was authentic.

00:28:22.900 Okay?

00:28:23.740 He didn't just go, well, I only make time for like big pocket donors. 0.93

00:28:27.620 Okay?

00:28:28.360 He was sitting in college campuses.

00:28:29.780 He was speaking to people, understanding people.

00:28:31.340 He was changing his ideas and he was changing mine and you are not changing my mind about

00:28:35.200 the fact that something weird happened that day and that TPUSA is acting funny because

00:28:40.320 you give an impassioned plea and speak about Nehemiah on Fox News.

00:28:46.120 Okay?

00:28:46.640 None of it makes any sense.

00:28:48.480 Anyways, Tucker then goes on and states the obvious predicament further, which is that we

00:28:52.720 just don't have any faith in the government.

00:28:56.200 Take a listen to him discussing some of these lingering questions.

00:28:59.240 Here's what I am concerned about.

00:29:02.700 Two, well, a lot of things.

00:29:04.380 One, he acted alone.

00:29:06.300 Tell me how that worked.

00:29:08.060 I don't, you know, none of us really act alone.

00:29:10.660 It's hard to go anywhere by yourself too.

00:29:12.340 Thank you.

00:29:13.180 Exactly.

00:29:13.680 He acted totally alone.

00:29:14.380 Okay.

00:29:14.900 You're going to have to prove that to me.

00:29:16.120 It's totally possible.

00:29:17.080 Anything is possible.

00:29:18.080 Weird things have happened.

00:29:19.020 We'll continue to.

00:29:19.820 But if you're, that's not my default assumption and it shouldn't be yours.

00:29:23.060 And their default assumption was we acted alone.

00:29:25.100 Really?

00:29:25.360 Why do you think that?

00:29:26.080 What about life suggests that people typically act alone?

00:29:29.200 What was the last time you acted alone in anything?

00:29:31.320 I don't go, you know, right?

00:29:32.700 So A, B, we know that people had foreknowledge of this because they posted about it on X and

00:29:39.700 said, Charlie Kirk is going to be killed on this date.

00:29:41.560 And he was.

00:29:42.160 Is that true?

00:29:42.800 Yes, it's true.

00:29:43.700 But were they just guessing?

00:29:44.720 Was it a guessing thing where every day they posted that?

00:29:46.820 Maybe, maybe.

00:29:48.020 Have those people been interviewed?

00:29:49.440 Have they been hauled into FBI HQ and had a long conversation with how they knew that?

00:29:54.260 Like, let's get really specific.

00:29:55.320 Why did you post that?

00:29:56.460 Who have you talked to?

00:29:57.480 Like, if I were doing this investigation because I spent my whole life doing non-criminal investigations

00:30:02.160 called journalism, like, what do we know is true?

00:30:04.420 How do we find out?

00:30:05.300 Call everybody.

00:30:06.440 Be open-minded.

00:30:07.320 It's like a very, it's the same process.

00:30:09.300 If I was doing this investigation, they would be at the very top of the list. 0.94

00:30:12.540 Tell me how this guy who seemed normal became a radical trans furry murderer. 1.00

00:30:19.500 It's not enough to tell me, oh, trans. 0.98

00:30:21.960 I'm not pro-trans, by the way.

00:30:24.380 But was that the guy or his boyfriend?

00:30:26.460 Well, exactly.

00:30:27.340 Exactly right.

00:30:28.540 Tell me how this guy became so radicalized that he murdered a stranger.

00:30:33.440 I'm not saying it didn't happen.

00:30:35.080 I'm saying I want an explanation for how it happened.

00:30:37.400 Why wouldn't I?

00:30:38.160 I agree.

00:30:38.880 Oh, we can't talk about that because it'll, you know, prejudice the jury pool.

00:30:42.320 Really, you've told the world that you have both a confession from him in his text to his boyfriend

00:30:48.300 and the murder weapon with his fingerprints on it.

00:30:50.920 I think you've got a pretty solid case.

00:30:52.120 So, why is it so difficult to just explain?

00:30:55.080 So, I have said from the beginning, if you don't like what Candace Owens is saying, why

00:31:00.260 don't you call her and offer a more plausible explanation for what happened?

00:31:05.260 Oh, she's bad! 1.00

00:31:06.880 She's bad! 1.00

00:31:07.480 But, okay, I mean, I like her a lot.

00:31:09.840 I don't think she's bad, but I love her, actually.

00:31:12.160 But, let's just stipulate she's bad, but why wouldn't you do that?

00:31:16.160 Well, I don't agree with some of the stuff that she, the rabbit hole she goes down, but

00:31:19.900 I don't even know.

00:31:20.820 But, I like the fact that she likes to dig in the garden, you know?

00:31:27.000 Theo, we are in this garden, okay?

00:31:29.940 And we're not getting out of this garden with the Fed Slop narrative.

00:31:35.020 We're just not getting out of the garden with trying to emotionally manipulate us and say,

00:31:40.580 it's not, this feels like COVID, right?

00:31:42.920 It's not like COVID-19.

00:31:44.480 It's like, it's like Candace 19.

00:31:47.100 It's another fake, it's a fake virus.

00:31:49.380 Like, oh, you got infected.

00:31:50.440 You just can't do it.

00:31:51.940 Six feet social distancing from Candace Owens. 0.99

00:31:54.440 We're going to get every influencer on social media.

00:31:57.500 Six feet social distancing.

00:31:59.160 Safe lives. 0.91

00:32:00.220 What are you, a grandma killer? 0.97

00:32:01.700 What, you just don't like them? 0.89

00:32:02.620 What?

00:32:04.040 And then Tim's all fired up.

00:32:06.000 She's a C-word. 0.99

00:32:08.400 People are going to die if you don't get this vaccine.

00:32:11.180 And I'm like, I feel like maybe the government's not telling us the truth.

00:32:15.100 We're right back to that, but it's Candace 19.

00:32:17.740 It's Candace 19.

00:32:18.580 That's what it is.

00:32:19.100 And they think that it may be if they put the little six feet social distancing pads

00:32:24.480 in the grocery store, that the PSYOP will win and make us believe that this is like,

00:32:28.800 like common sense is the virus.

00:32:30.480 I'm like, I'm the common sense virus.

00:32:33.500 It's coming around.

00:32:34.120 It's so evil.

00:32:35.920 Stay at home.

00:32:37.020 Wear a mask.

00:32:37.620 Save lives.

00:32:38.180 You don't want to catch it.

00:32:38.960 You don't want to catch the common sense, you guys.

00:32:40.960 You don't want to catch it.

00:32:42.520 Anyways, I dare.

00:32:44.940 I'm sorry.

00:32:45.400 I dare.

00:32:45.700 And I have been very careful because I wasn't sure what direction she was going to go.

00:32:50.900 If she was like, I was like, look, she's got a whole business that she's got to figure 1.00

00:32:54.180 out.

00:32:54.660 There's a lot of people in her ear.

00:32:56.400 Maybe they like did this transition too quickly.

00:32:58.120 And she's just like keeping her head like, no, what she's saying is Turning Point USA is

00:33:02.480 untouchable.

00:33:03.560 And it's a no from me.

00:33:06.980 But you know me.

00:33:07.840 I'm just out here saying what needs to be said.

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00:35:06.260 You guys, Candice19 is crazy, okay?

00:35:09.980 I'm worried.

00:35:11.200 Trust the influencers.

00:35:12.640 You know, people over the chat say, we need some Candice19 merch.

00:35:15.840 Yeah.

00:35:16.620 Don't go max, get the vax.

00:35:18.740 That's what Mark is saying.

00:35:21.120 We're going to get some gear for you guys.

00:35:23.240 Don't go max, get the vax.

00:35:25.680 That's the vibe right now.

00:35:27.520 How many influencers is it going to take to get everyone to roll up their sleeves and not go max?

00:35:33.440 That's where we're at right now.

00:35:34.400 How many people do we have to send out to tell them?

00:35:36.200 Please, please do it.

00:35:37.960 Wild, okay?

00:35:38.820 I didn't get the vax.

00:35:39.560 I didn't get the COVID-19 vax.

00:35:41.320 I'm not getting whatever the heck this is, okay? 1.00

00:35:44.600 Which is honestly on its face, federal stupidity is what it is. 1.00

00:35:49.160 Now, I can also tell you that because my mommy sleuths, they're so fast. 0.99

00:35:54.460 Before stuff even ends, I get tips about things.

00:35:58.180 And Erica literally today sat down with Barry Weiss. 0.94

00:36:03.380 It's been marketed all over.

00:36:04.760 They're going to have this big sit down, a conversation moderated by Barry.

00:36:08.520 It's going to feature voices from across the political spectrum.

00:36:11.000 They're going to talk about grief.

00:36:11.880 And I got this email after, and it's interesting.

00:36:15.560 I got actually a couple of emails, but I'm going to read this one to you because it was

00:36:18.440 a town hall-ish event.

00:36:20.660 Here's what they said went down.

00:36:23.200 This person writes, I just came from the CVS.

00:36:25.820 By the way, whoever wrote this email, I love you.

00:36:28.040 I just love all the mommy sleuths that are this quick.

00:36:29.840 They wrote, I just came from the CVS Times Erica Kirk Town Hall.

00:36:34.180 And this is what she said about the conspiracies and Candace.

00:36:37.160 One, Erica said she was pregnant when the Egyptian planes were flying and following her.

00:36:42.760 So she wasn't on them.

00:36:44.840 She said she has photo proof.

00:36:48.100 Huh?

00:36:48.620 I'm sorry.

00:36:52.860 Did I ever accuse Erica of being on Egyptian planes?

00:36:55.940 When I found the Egyptian planes, I was concerned that they were following Charlie because I 0.90

00:37:01.200 thought, wow, has there been a foreign government that has been tracking his events?

00:37:05.100 Like maybe, I don't know, like running through the operation early.

00:37:09.500 And then we broadened it when someone clued us into the fact that actually these planes have

00:37:13.380 been following Erica.

00:37:14.180 You just heard Tara Carlson confirm that.

00:37:16.240 Um, I thought she'd be concerned.

00:37:20.500 Instead, she's, she's going to tell us on Saturday that she wasn't on the planes.

00:37:25.420 I never said you were on the planes.

00:37:26.180 Why would I think you were on the Egyptian planes?

00:37:27.800 I don't like, well, that would be, I don't think that you took off and went to Wilmington,

00:37:32.640 Delaware.

00:37:33.380 I know you didn't go to Wilmington, Delaware on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:37:36.160 I find that answer to be lacking.

00:37:41.160 Okay.

00:37:41.680 That is weird to me.

00:37:42.820 It's a weird answer to give.

00:37:44.380 And by the way, you can fly when you're pregnant, even if you were on the gypsum plane, that's 0.97

00:37:50.240 a possibility when you're pregnant.

00:37:51.300 So I don't understand that part at all.

00:37:53.440 Um, two, when Barry asked her about the conspiracies and what she had to say to those saying them,

00:37:59.260 Erica said, stop. 0.94

00:38:01.380 No.

00:38:02.320 Three, not about candidates, but she talked about Israel and said good things about Jews

00:38:06.280 and how TPUSA is having Shabbat dinner.

00:38:09.500 No, this, I didn't read that before we went live.

00:38:12.140 Okay.

00:38:15.340 Okay.

00:38:16.580 You guys, I want you to know.

00:38:19.720 In addition to the fact that Charlie in the last couple of days wanted people to know that

00:38:25.680 Mikey is fantastic and supercalifragilisticexpialidocious and he had this whole vision and that Rob McCoy

00:38:33.000 was his favorite pastor.

00:38:34.440 Um, and that you should buy Josh Hammer's book.

00:38:37.960 He also wants you to know to just be a Jew.

00:38:42.640 I think we get it.

00:38:44.140 We get it.

00:38:44.860 Those are his last words.

00:38:45.900 Okay.

00:38:46.300 Uh, we get it.

00:38:47.420 Just like, okay.

00:38:51.280 Okay.

00:38:51.760 Anyways, moving on from that.

00:38:55.760 I want to say to the 39 bajillion of you who were in the military, who emailed us to let

00:39:02.220 me know that I misspoke yesterday.

00:39:04.360 Okay.

00:39:04.640 I even said to you ahead of time, I said, I don't know military vernacular.

00:39:08.980 I don't know these terms.

00:39:10.520 It's like another language. 0.96

00:39:11.400 And you guys are not aware of yourselves.

00:39:13.000 Okay.

00:39:13.160 So you critiqued me for saying E4, E3, when I should have said 06.

00:39:18.020 I'm jotting down these notes.

00:39:19.420 I'm having a conversation.

00:39:20.280 I'm trying to fact check things.

00:39:22.020 And for me, I was focusing on the timeline of where he was.

00:39:24.920 I was like getting all of the proof from our, our military guy who was there for this meeting

00:39:29.480 on September 9th and it's also on September 8th as well.

00:39:32.740 Um, and he, I misspeak.

00:39:35.220 Okay.

00:39:36.420 Cause you guys basically speak Japanese.

00:39:37.940 You don't realize you do, but you do.

00:39:39.260 You speak Japanese.

00:39:39.920 And I said E4, E3, and I went back and I checked my notes and actually he said, oh,

00:39:45.060 sixes.

00:39:46.000 Thank you.

00:39:46.580 Thank you for your 26 billion emails to let me know that I don't know ish about the military.

00:39:52.700 Okay.

00:39:52.980 It was a human error.

00:39:54.900 I made it very clear that I am just, I am ignorant when it comes to the military.

00:39:58.800 I will own that.

00:39:59.680 And so please just be nice to me sometimes where it's a lot of information, a lot of

00:40:04.800 researching.

00:40:05.320 And I just wanted to confirm he said he was where he said he was and take those notes.

00:40:10.560 Uh, but no, he did not.

00:40:11.780 He, he was very clear.

00:40:12.880 I checked the notes that he has said, oh six, I think I made the mistake when I transferred

00:40:15.940 my notes because he said, uh, colonels or captains.

00:40:18.960 Then I was, I Googled it and then I edited it thinking that maybe I heard him wrong.

00:40:23.180 Um, it was over a one hour phone call.

00:40:25.420 Anyways, regarding him, for those of you guys that emailed us, I told you, you can trust that

00:40:30.440 we are not just taking a thumbs up from someone.

00:40:33.140 There's a lot of research that goes into all of these things.

00:40:35.540 And we were able to confirm everything he said was real.

00:40:38.220 He gave us his card that he swiped onto the base.

00:40:41.100 And now because you guys sent so many emails and actually people who were on that base

00:40:46.160 in Arizona, the Huachuca, uh, base in Arizona, adding further credence to his claim is we've

00:40:54.700 been able to since verify two more things, uh, from other people that are currently stationed

00:40:58.960 there.

00:40:59.760 First and foremost, I should tell you, we have a positive ID on Captain Neff.

00:41:03.640 He was not sure who kept, what Captain Neff's first name was.

00:41:06.680 It was in fact, Adam Neff, and I'm sure captains have different names, but Adam Neff of the

00:41:11.920 10th Mountain Division is the individual.

00:41:14.980 Uh, I sent picture options to him as your emails were coming in.

00:41:18.600 And then someone said, Adam Neff, I sent it.

00:41:21.120 And he confirmed that that is the correct person.

00:41:25.240 Um, there were several, obviously, but Adam Neff was leading the interrogation of him and

00:41:30.420 it checks out because that is the division from New York.

00:41:34.460 Also, we have now confirmed, and this is exciting because we got a lot of emails going, oh, like,

00:41:40.760 if this was really this like meeting, it would, people wouldn't have known it was taking place.

00:41:45.160 They would have used a, like, you know, empty building or something like that.

00:41:48.960 Well, guess what?

00:41:49.840 We have confirmed from people currently stationed on the base that JTF is indeed using a building.

00:41:57.060 I'm not going to name the building.

00:41:58.920 I know the exact one because I don't want to, uh, I don't know, accidentally violate national

00:42:02.960 security, but effectively they are borrowing a building.

00:42:05.720 So it's effectively unmarked in that sense.

00:42:08.580 And that, that building has been turned into, please forgive me if I get this wrong, but I'm

00:42:14.960 reading it direct from the email, S-C-I-F, which stands for a Sensitive Compartmented Information

00:42:22.740 Facility, okay?

00:42:25.100 So they have since added barbed wire around that facility for additional security.

00:42:31.480 Uh, cell phones and other electronics are not allowed.

00:42:34.160 This is where he saw the meeting, by the way.

00:42:35.560 Um, unless they are government issued, they are not allowed in that building and it requires 1.00

00:42:40.820 top clearance to be granted access into that building.

00:42:43.480 Again, we have now verified this outside of this individual who was definitively telling

00:42:47.400 the truth.

00:42:47.900 He sent me so much documentation that it was like, I could have showed you everything.

00:42:52.820 His old passport, his new passport, his military ID card, hotels, books, times, text messages,

00:42:59.080 phone call logs with his wife.

00:43:01.020 It just really is a circumstance that this man has either the worst or the best luck ever

00:43:07.060 when it comes upon, when it comes to him sort of stumbling upon military operations, right?

00:43:12.660 First, he finds this, this cartel tunnel when he's 20.

00:43:16.480 Now we fast forward, he's 56 and he just was getting some coffee and someone's like, yeah,

00:43:21.960 actually, yeah, no, that's, that's the old boys are getting back together in this unmarked

00:43:26.280 building and he stumbles in there.

00:43:28.600 It also, by the way, does provide an explanation for why they panicked when he just walked in

00:43:34.440 there because they were like, he should not have known that this building was here.

00:43:39.500 It didn't buy his excuse.

00:43:40.920 It's, you know, seven hours later, they allowed him to leave or Captain Neff allowed him to

00:43:47.360 leave. 0.99

00:43:48.280 Now we can also give you some more information that gets really interesting.

00:43:53.900 Okay.

00:43:54.940 Remember, Harry told me that seeing that many, I don't, is it, I hope it's 06.

00:44:02.760 Is it 06?

00:44:03.280 Do not email me.

00:44:03.880 Okay.

00:44:04.760 He said, it is not common unless, and he specifically said there were some high ranking

00:44:09.160 congressional member or someone close to like, you know, the president, like a via the vice

00:44:14.860 president.

00:44:15.720 Well, we received another tip that makes things especially compelling.

00:44:18.620 So I'm going to just read you this email in its entirety.

00:44:21.320 We have fact checked it.

00:44:22.080 It is true.

00:44:22.500 So trust us to fact check stuff, by the way, by the way, uh, by the way, guys, we would

00:44:26.960 not just randomly be like thumbs up.

00:44:29.640 We're just going to go with that.

00:44:31.460 This person writes, I just wanted to bring to your attention that on September 8th, that's

00:44:37.000 when he says that he saw some funny business, 2025, a U S government plane, uh, a special air

00:44:44.080 mission plane caught my eye.

00:44:45.480 This is what I found about that particular plane that is based out of Andrews air force base,

00:44:50.940 uh, shown as camp springs below us air force C three, seven, a Gulfstream is a, uh, Gulfstream

00:45:00.240 five is a VIP jet, uh, part of a unit that caters to senior members of the executive branch

00:45:07.060 and Congress plane.

00:45:09.160 Plane number is nine nine dash zero four zero four.

00:45:13.440 As you'll see on the screenshot below on September 7th, the plane flew from Andrews to Colorado

00:45:18.880 Springs on September 8th.

00:45:20.740 It flew from Colorado, Colorado Springs to Tucson.

00:45:24.180 Then five hours later from Tucson and then the transponder appears to be turned off.

00:45:31.460 However, at 12 31 PM on September 9th, it flies from Fort Huachuca to El Paso and then

00:45:41.720 El Paso back to St. Andrews.

00:45:44.060 Now, why is that interesting?

00:45:45.900 Okay.

00:45:46.660 Because that means the timeline he gave us is exactly right.

00:45:49.600 This meeting took place early in the morning.

00:45:51.140 I think it was what seven 37 where all this happened and, and, and then he's saying he

00:45:55.620 said he, he assumed it was like a high ranking congressional person, um, or somebody that

00:46:00.280 potentially could be in the cabinet.

00:46:01.560 This guy is saying that's what that plane is used for.

00:46:04.120 Um, and he also brings an El Paso member El Paso, Texas is where all those weird flights

00:46:10.200 were coming from on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:46:13.060 So that is extremely compelling.

00:46:15.540 And like I said, I haven't spoken to this individual who is planning to come out and do podcasts and speak

00:46:20.580 about that.

00:46:21.080 He's trying to figure it out, which I'm going to help him with, um, this weekend to figure

00:46:25.500 out who's show he can go on and speak more.

00:46:27.940 It's lining up.

00:46:28.860 Like this is, this is actually tracking.

00:46:30.420 I had a sense when I spoke to him that his memory could be trusted.

00:46:34.360 Okay.

00:46:34.880 He was very forthright.

00:46:36.140 He was very honest.

00:46:37.000 I mean, he was so honest that he was like, when I said, Oh, is it maybe this Captain Neff?

00:46:40.720 He was like, ma'am, like, I, I don't want to give you any information that's wrong.

00:46:43.900 I would put that at about maybe 65, 60 to 65% that it could be this person until I gave

00:46:50.540 him the correct Neff.

00:46:52.340 And he was like, a hundred percent.

00:46:53.400 That's the guy, um, that questioned me.

00:46:55.840 So I trust, I trust him.

00:46:57.760 And, um, by the way, his, his heart exploded when I told him about all the emails of people

00:47:04.620 that were in the military currently that are, were very moved by his story.

00:47:08.580 Um, people who have had the experience of doing the right thing in the military and be

00:47:12.780 treating, being treated as though they did something wrong for doing their job and serving

00:47:16.720 the American people.

00:47:17.540 Everybody knows there's corruption everywhere, especially up atop.

00:47:20.580 And to all the service members that sent those emails, I want you to know that he was, he said

00:47:26.300 he was close to tears and he was just on his knees, him and his wife, just thanking God

00:47:31.040 because they never thought their story was ever going to come out about what happened to him

00:47:34.940 when he was 20.

00:47:35.560 And that is just something that, that is really, that's why I said there's so much God in this

00:47:41.580 because like he either has the best or worst luck, but he just happens to be in the wrong

00:47:47.540 place at the right time, maybe in the right place at the wrong time.

00:47:50.480 Who knows?

00:47:50.880 History will tell us.

00:47:52.180 Continuing the rest of that email from the person who gave us that tip about this plane,

00:47:57.120 uh, he concludes it by saying, this is the only time that I have noticed that this plane

00:48:02.600 was in Fort Huachuca.

00:48:06.800 If your contact that you mentioned yesterday saw this group of men in the morning, it could

00:48:11.580 line up well with what this air, that what this aircraft leaving at 1143 AM on the 9th.

00:48:17.380 From other searches I've done, it appears that Pam Bondi flew on this plane approximately five

00:48:20.800 months ago from Tampa area back to DC.

00:48:23.400 I am looking into other flights.

00:48:25.000 Please be safe and God bless.

00:48:26.700 Guys, we have a clue.

00:48:27.720 And we should, we should keep going with that.

00:48:30.660 I just, I don't know.

00:48:31.760 When he contacted me, it was the way I told you it went about me praying and like, and

00:48:36.520 then suddenly I get this email, I speak to him and he's like so credible and just gives

00:48:41.000 everything.

00:48:42.220 I think we need to keep prodding this narrative of what happened and what he said that he saw

00:48:47.520 and he described it, uh, as a meeting that when the operation is being finalized, a finalization

00:48:54.900 meeting that, and he, he seems like he knows what he's speaking about.

00:48:58.500 So, uh, that's what I have for you guys today.

00:49:02.220 Oh, wait, there's also something else about that plane.

00:49:04.040 I got to bring in Mark to mansplain it.

00:49:06.920 Uh, I'll just bring you on Mark.

00:49:09.340 I'm not even going to tee you up there.

00:49:10.800 Just come on.

00:49:12.420 Thank you.

00:49:13.080 Thank you.

00:49:13.540 Great introduction.

00:49:14.740 So I was looking at the, uh, the logs for that flight and the flights in question are

00:49:19.060 towards the center of the screen.

00:49:20.400 And you can see it goes from Tucson, the transponder goes dark.

00:49:24.520 That's what that, that dash means there.

00:49:26.700 But what really stood out to me were the call signs, which are basically the fourth column

00:49:32.120 from the left.

00:49:32.980 So you can see it's using RCH, which is reach.

00:49:35.680 That's a standard air force call sign designator.

00:49:38.780 But when someone important on the, is on the plane, it switches their call sign to Sam,

00:49:43.860 which stands, as you said, for a special air mission, which is typically reserved for people

00:49:49.440 like the vice president, cabinet secretaries, senior officials of the executive branch,

00:49:54.520 congressional delegate delegations, and other senior political leaders.

00:49:58.660 So what that tells me is the call sign from Tucson to Fort Huachuca is a standard reach.

00:50:04.580 Everything before that is as well.

00:50:06.400 But once it gets to Fort Huachuca and takes off, it switches to Sam.

00:50:10.020 So that tells me they picked up someone of that stature in Fort Huachuca.

00:50:14.880 And then just to avoid confusion, the Venus call sign is just when the plane is empty,

00:50:19.120 doesn't have anyone on it.

00:50:20.660 It's actually very, very helpful.

00:50:22.340 And I think, like I said, there's something here.

00:50:24.400 There is definitely something here.

00:50:26.280 And I do believe that God put that man again.

00:50:29.800 He has the worst luck.

00:50:31.520 Our guy, Harry, has the worst luck down or the best luck down in Fort Huachuca.

00:50:35.900 But I'm certainly glad he was there.

00:50:38.840 So you'll definitely be hearing from him directly.

00:50:42.540 I would assume next week I'm going to help him figure things out.

00:50:44.820 He's like, I don't know how to work these podcasts and computers and how to get my message out there.

00:50:50.680 We will definitely assist.

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00:53:23.980 Turning point faith, man.

00:53:26.800 I love that it is so faithful, and, you know, we're always talking about biblical characters, but nobody want to address Jesus.

00:53:34.740 Remember, he was betrayed.

00:53:38.120 The story might be relevant.

00:53:41.380 We're going to be out here acting like it's a conspiracy.

00:53:43.260 Yeah, it was a conspiracy when Judas betrayed him, and it was for money.

00:53:50.520 Like, that might be a relevant narrative when you're out here, like, trying to make it seem like it's never happened in the history of the world.

00:53:57.400 It has happened.

00:53:58.400 And, yeah, I don't know.

00:54:00.360 He was denied.

00:54:01.920 He was denied, just as he said.

00:54:05.400 So, I want to just be clear that it is, of course, plausible.

00:54:12.060 It is very plausible.

00:54:13.800 It's more than plausible.

00:54:15.820 That when a company grows that size, there are people that become motivated by things that are not just truth and justice and things that feel sparkly and sprinkly and, like, make you feel good on the inside.

00:54:28.980 The reality is, is life is ugly, okay?

00:54:33.280 Many people have to deal with deceit and dishonesty the bigger they get, and we heard that from Charlie's own mouth, what he was going through, okay?

00:54:43.860 I wouldn't have guessed his last words were effectively as if we're all getting the vibes here, like, you know, just, like, go be a Jew. 0.89

00:54:53.520 But, um, I don't know.

00:54:56.900 I just, I feel like he was under pressure, actually, from a lot of his Jewish quote-unquote friends. 0.99

00:55:01.100 And not even, there hasn't even been any honesty provided in Turning Point USA in that regard.

00:55:06.480 It's like we're getting no honesty at all.

00:55:09.340 And I'm wondering why, because this feels like a very poorly run PR show.

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00:56:07.300 Okay, let's get to some of your comments.

00:56:10.660 Before the influencers come out and tell you it's evil, evil.

00:56:17.140 After that Fox News hit for us to say, actually, I still have questions.

00:56:21.440 They do.

00:56:22.940 Top comment from yesterday is they want us to believe that Charlie's neck was made of steel

00:56:29.140 and the Twin Towers were made of neck bones.

00:56:32.240 Got it.

00:56:33.700 Yeah, we're at that stage of a psychological operation.

00:56:36.280 That's it.

00:56:37.680 None of it's making sense.

00:56:38.920 That is so well put.

00:56:40.040 It is upside down land.

00:56:42.300 Laughing Cats Music World writes, and thank you, by the way, that's a massive donation.

00:56:47.380 Vital to separate flaws from race.

00:56:49.560 We can criticize corrupt Jews without blanket anti-Semitism. 1.00

00:56:52.820 Critiquing George Floyd because he died of fentanyl in the hospital. 0.99

00:56:56.580 Isn't hating black people.

00:56:58.120 Stop equating criticism of Israel, Soros, etc. 0.98

00:57:01.220 With Jew hating or self-hating.

00:57:02.900 If you're Jewish and critical of all governments, including Israel, most people are not racist.

00:57:07.320 And then this person is making a joke, maybe Blake Neff.

00:57:11.340 I didn't look into the Blake Neff thing or why he left Fox News because I'm just more interested in his military connections because that caught me by surprise.

00:57:18.340 But you are absolutely on the money.

00:57:20.500 Obviously, we can criticize people.

00:57:22.140 And this sort of cheap tactic of being like, oh, it's kind of the same thing we're talking about.

00:57:27.900 It's emotional manipulation.

00:57:28.900 It's like, whoa, what are you saying?

00:57:30.760 And it's like, no, there is corruption everywhere.

00:57:33.100 And you are not removed from corruption because of who you work for, what you look like, what sex you are.

00:57:38.400 It is always plausible.

00:57:40.180 It actually highly plausible.

00:57:41.960 Typically, when money is involved. 0.97

00:57:43.720 Lulu Mallory writes, the more I watch, the more fake and gay things are. 1.00

00:57:46.880 We all have been given the light of Christ to discern truth from lies.

00:57:49.780 Candace speaks truth.

00:57:50.540 Go Max, Candace. 1.00

00:57:51.840 Charlie deserves nothing less.

00:57:53.400 You are correct.

00:57:54.300 And I don't trust the feds.

00:57:56.140 And I don't believe that that is a sufficient enough answer that, well, we're giving, we're telling the feds to do that.

00:58:04.760 Well, I can tell you the feds are not doing that because I was the one who said I had the information about the French Foreign Legion being on the ground today.

00:58:10.720 That Charlie was assassinated and the feds have not reached out to me.

00:58:15.080 So shouldn't that concern Erica?

00:58:16.900 Shouldn't she be like, hey, why didn't you why didn't you reach out to me and say like, you know, hey, I'd like the information if no one's reached out to you.

00:58:24.160 Like, why is that not happening?

00:58:25.780 This is what I mean when I say that the reaction doesn't feel to the public as what we.

00:58:34.580 And yeah, I'm generalizing here because there is such a thing as a general response.

00:58:38.780 What we would do in the same circumstance, like we would be like, whoa, even if I trusted the feds and I trusted my legal team and trusted their analysis that there was just one person involved.

00:58:51.080 As soon as some podcaster was like, hey, I found Egyptian planes and they're being kind of shady. 0.99

00:58:54.940 I would be like, whoa, that is weird.

00:58:59.360 Are we what's up?

00:59:00.680 These Egyptian planes, they're just making jokes. 1.00

00:59:04.300 There's something not right with that, like making jokes about something that you should be concerned at the very least about, even if it turned out that it led nowhere, which it has not turned out that it led nowhere.

00:59:16.500 It actually led somewhere and it's been confirmed.

00:59:18.420 Why are you not concerned?

00:59:20.080 I just need an answer for why they are never concerned.

00:59:24.200 Meryl Gerstenmeyer writes, it seems to me Erica's moral outrage is manufactured more for an elite target audience as opposed to those normal folks who want to solve the actual murder.

00:59:33.700 It does feel, I would say it feels elite.

00:59:36.420 I don't have time for the little people.

00:59:38.140 Okay.

00:59:38.400 I don't have time for, you know, your small pocket donors.

00:59:40.480 I got time.

00:59:41.340 But like, it's going to be spent with power.

00:59:42.940 It's going to be spent in the West Wing.

00:59:44.140 It's going to be spent raising $40 million at Mar-a-Lago.

00:59:48.160 When we say building, what we mean is like a financial arsenal.

00:59:52.680 And it's easier to appease people who are billionaires than to build a grassroots movement.

01:00:04.560 That's what Turning Point USA was.

01:00:07.160 It's not anymore, clearly.

01:00:08.420 But it was a grassroots organization.

01:00:10.480 That was the pit.

01:00:10.980 That was why I worked for them.

01:00:11.740 The idea that you could get on the ground when nobody knew us, nobody knew me and Charlie, and we could get on stage and we could convince people of what we believed in.

01:00:19.060 Okay.

01:00:19.880 Every conversation mattered in those times.

01:00:22.320 Every debate mattered.

01:00:23.260 Every feeling that a person had, even if it was valid or not valid, it mattered.

01:00:28.500 And now we get the sense that this is the RNC.

01:00:32.200 So if you ain't spending for a table, you ain't getting a response.

01:00:36.640 Okay.

01:00:37.160 Because we busy.

01:00:38.440 We very busy.

01:00:39.380 H. Biz writes, who was the woman in the pickup truck? 0.98

01:00:43.360 I don't know who the woman was in the pickup truck. 1.00

01:00:46.480 But you're referring to what Harry, I mean, Harry thinks he has an idea and he should come out and he should share his story.

01:00:51.880 Um, I would be interested to see if he is, like I said, I can tell you he was factually there, but the meeting happens now exactly as he said it happened at exactly what time he says it happened.

01:01:02.360 I cannot confirm his own eyes.

01:01:05.140 I can't confirm his memory of who he believes he saw.

01:01:09.140 We can't confirm it.

01:01:10.140 It was Brian Harpole.

01:01:10.880 We can't.

01:01:11.420 You know, it wasn't a Brian Harpole lookalike.

01:01:13.700 Do a lot of military men look the same?

01:01:15.860 Um, he is certain he saw Brian Harpole.

01:01:18.800 Give him time to come out and tell his story.

01:01:21.760 Um, Servant of Yahweh writes, who was the young woman in the Candlewood Suites Hotel with the special ops guy?

01:01:27.980 They left in the green truck on September 8th.

01:01:29.960 If you or anyone you know works at that hotel and that has that security footage, please get it to Candace before it gets deleted.

01:01:36.300 I would imagine if he is right, that footage is deleted.

01:01:41.940 But that would still be a clue if it was deleted.

01:01:43.520 So yeah, if you work for the Candlewood Suites Hotel at the military base, could you check that footage, please, for us on September 8th?

01:01:50.980 More tips at CandaceOwens.com is who you can send that tip to.

01:01:56.080 What you do and stay in at the Candlewood Suites Hotel.

01:01:59.880 Sorry, that's an old hip-hop song.

01:02:01.180 I'm out of control.

01:02:02.040 I need to, I obviously, I'm sorry guys.

01:02:04.800 This is a new strand of Candace 19 and it's resistant.

01:02:08.940 It is absolutely resistant, even, even to the Vax.

01:02:13.860 So anyways, you guys, we're going to keep going, Max.

01:02:16.860 And, um, I am going to keep on this, see what comes of this.

01:02:23.000 We will see you guys tomorrow.

01:02:34.800 And, um, we'll see you guys tomorrow.

Candace Owens - December 10, 2025

UH-OH! Erika Kirk Goes Off On ＂Conspiracy Theorists＂. ｜ Candace Ep 278

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