Candace Owens - January 23, 2026


Erika’s Inquisition： TPUSA Employees FIRED For…What？! ｜ Candace Ep 295


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

177.41113

Word Count

8,355

Sentence Count

698

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

In this episode, Candice talks about the fallout from the firings of conservative journalist Charlie Kirk, and how Christian Zionist donors may have been behind it. Candice also talks about why it's so important to be critical of the CIA, and why they should be allowed to do so.


Transcript

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00:00:30.600 All right, you guys.
00:00:31.780 Arizona, you should know, is an at-will employment state.
00:00:35.980 What that means is that employers can fire you for any reason at all.
00:00:40.340 It's not illegal for them to do so.
00:00:42.120 But the question is, is it immoral for them to do so after the company rakes in $250 million off the back of its founder's assassination?
00:00:55.120 And employees are working overtime to help make that happen.
00:00:58.520 I'll let you guys decide because the stories that are coming out right now, first-person accounts over a round of firings, stories are stunning.
00:01:08.040 Truly stunning.
00:01:09.000 We also now have a never-before-seen text message, which Charlie Kirk received, this time from a loving, very loving Christian Zionist, so donor.
00:01:22.700 And I want to be clear, it reads to me like a threat.
00:01:26.660 Again, I will let you guys decide.
00:01:28.740 Let's jump right back in.
00:01:30.200 Welcome back to Candace.
00:01:31.080 Look, Charlie was threatened.
00:01:47.500 He was threatened a lot, I would say, threatened financially.
00:01:51.420 And I want to be clear, it wasn't just by Jewish donors, but also by Christian Zionist donors.
00:02:00.120 What is Christian Zionism?
00:02:01.460 We're all wondering.
00:02:02.340 We're having that conversation now as a society.
00:02:04.480 Like, what does this actually mean?
00:02:05.600 It doesn't feel too Christian.
00:02:07.180 It kind of feels like here is how Christians better behave and act, and we're going to try to package it in a Bible verse.
00:02:15.280 You know, that's how it's starting to feel to me, and I think a lot of people, well, this is not going to help.
00:02:20.740 Well, let's just back up.
00:02:22.680 In July, we know that's when things went sideways for Charlie Kirk, right?
00:02:27.000 He stepped out of line because he hosted Tucker Carlson at their SAS event in July.
00:02:33.300 And I want to be clear here, if we're just asking ourselves the question, what exactly did Tucker do or say that was so controversial?
00:02:41.740 Nothing at all.
00:02:42.500 He asked reasonable questions, questions that were on everybody's mind, questions about Jeffrey Epstein.
00:02:49.080 That's pretty fair to open that conversation.
00:02:51.480 He asked about why it seems he's somehow protected, where his money came from.
00:02:56.540 He asked about Israeli blackmail operations.
00:03:00.700 Tucker, for being clear here, what Tucker did was he was honest.
00:03:06.400 Take a listen.
00:03:06.840 How does a guy go from being a math teacher at the Dalton School in the late 70s with no college degree to having multiple airplanes, a private island, and the largest residential house in Manhattan?
00:03:20.260 Where did all the money come from?
00:03:22.420 And no one has ever gotten to the bottom of that because no one has ever tried.
00:03:25.580 And moreover, it's extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had direct connections to a foreign government.
00:03:33.440 Now, no one's allowed to say that that foreign government is Israel because we have been somehow cowed into thinking that that's naughty.
00:03:43.440 There is nothing wrong with saying that.
00:03:45.680 There is nothing hateful about saying that.
00:03:47.920 There's nothing anti-Semitic about saying that.
00:03:49.440 There's nothing even anti-Israel about saying that.
00:03:51.320 I've spent my entire life pretty much in Washington where I knew and loved a number of people, including one very close person, who worked at CIA.
00:03:59.780 That has never prohibited me from saying, I think the CIA has done some horrible things.
00:04:05.580 Murdered a bunch of people, participated in the murder of a sitting U.S. president.
00:04:09.440 It's got a whole trail of crimes.
00:04:11.620 That doesn't make me a disloyal American.
00:04:13.340 It doesn't make me anti-American in any sense.
00:04:15.400 I was born here.
00:04:15.940 My family's been here for hundreds of years.
00:04:17.240 I love this country.
00:04:18.380 That's why I live here.
00:04:19.320 So criticizing the behavior of a government agency does not make you a hater.
00:04:25.220 It makes you a free person.
00:04:27.640 It makes you a citizen.
00:04:29.000 You're allowed to do that because you're not a slave.
00:04:33.240 You're a citizen.
00:04:35.080 And you have a right to expect that your government will not act against your interests.
00:04:39.840 And you have a right to demand that foreign governments not be allowed to act against your interest.
00:04:45.600 That's not creepy.
00:04:46.600 It shouldn't be forbidden.
00:04:49.860 And yet all of us have trained ourselves to believe that you can't say that somehow.
00:04:55.620 That that's like too naughty and forbidden.
00:04:57.360 And the effect of making that off limits has been to create a lot of resentment.
00:05:03.680 And I'll say it, hate online.
00:05:05.560 Where people feel like they can't just say, like, what the hell is this?
00:05:09.100 You have the former Israeli prime minister living in your house.
00:05:13.340 You have all this contact with the foreign government.
00:05:16.020 Were you working on behalf of Mossad?
00:05:19.400 Were you running a blackmail operation on behalf of foreign government?
00:05:23.860 Oh, Tucker, but it is forbidden.
00:05:29.220 You look out in the audience, they're cheering.
00:05:31.080 They agree with you because it makes sense.
00:05:33.620 But Tucker, to some people in this society, if we're being honest, they do view us as slaves.
00:05:39.640 They've given us the illusion of freedom.
00:05:41.200 They gave Charlie the illusion of freedom.
00:05:43.560 Yeah, Charlie, go out there.
00:05:45.520 Fight for free markets and capitalism.
00:05:47.080 This is your company.
00:05:48.400 This is your organization.
00:05:49.380 You built this.
00:05:50.100 You were young.
00:05:50.700 You didn't get into West Point.
00:05:51.900 And you built this because you care about free markets and capitalism.
00:05:54.900 And, of course, free speech.
00:05:56.820 And when Charlie started prodding the narrative about Israel, suddenly he realized he wasn't a free man.
00:06:04.000 He wasn't a free man at all.
00:06:05.660 And he wasn't even free to invite who he wanted to invite to speak on his stage.
00:06:10.800 You know, I showed you guys that text thread.
00:06:12.480 I could show you more where Charlie was saying that he's thinking that he wants to invite Candace.
00:06:18.200 Well, also, I can confirm to you today that on September 9th, amongst a smaller pool of TPUSA employees, Charlie sent a text saying the day before he died that he wanted to invite me to AmFest.
00:06:31.800 Yeah, no, that wasn't allowed to happen because this Tucker speech wasn't allowed to happen.
00:06:36.560 That speech was disobedient.
00:06:39.020 Disobedient to Israel's aims.
00:06:41.700 I'm going to now read you an unhinged text message that Charlie received, this time from a female Christian donor, Zionist, of course.
00:06:54.480 And as I read this, I want you to keep in mind that this information, once again, is being shared to you from me.
00:07:01.740 Not from Charlie's closest friends over at Turning Point USA who purport to care about what happened to him, purport to want the truth to get out.
00:07:11.800 Except not when it comes to the pressure that Charlie was under in the months leading up to his assassination, pressure that was coming from donors.
00:07:18.660 These people, in fact, wouldn't dare utter a word, bad word about Israel.
00:07:23.380 Tons to say about Candace Owens.
00:07:24.640 Because they're not going to send any legal letters over to any body that is pro-Israel.
00:07:29.740 Yeah, it seems that that's the way, right?
00:07:31.620 Not for a single second do they want to betray the Israel narrative.
00:07:36.580 Israel as a friend and ally, not just the United States, but of course to Charlie Kirk until the very end.
00:07:42.860 Now, I'm letting you know that I have copied and pasted this message and sent it to my team and sent it back because I want to make sure that where and who this message came from is not obvious.
00:07:54.060 But this is a real message.
00:07:55.820 Andrew Kovach can confirm it's real.
00:07:57.660 Erica Kirk can confirm it's real that Charlie Kirk received this.
00:08:01.120 Let's read this, okay?
00:08:03.460 All of the people that trusted you, Jews and Christians, including me, why would you platform anti-Semites like Candace and Tucker?
00:08:12.820 There are many evangelical Christian Zionists who would never give these people the opportunity to spew their hatred.
00:08:19.180 I'm one of them.
00:08:19.780 You say people are accusing you of being an anti-Semite because you disagree with the Israeli government.
00:08:24.440 Well, what is it exactly that you disagree with?
00:08:27.860 You threatened Jews and Christians with your 30 million followers.
00:08:32.720 Are you kidding?
00:08:33.580 Be very careful, Charlie.
00:08:36.080 You are in violation of the Ninth Commandment by bearing false witness against your brother Judah.
00:08:42.920 When was the last time you read your Bible, Charlie?
00:08:45.240 I'm coming to you as a believer.
00:08:49.640 Genesis 12.3.
00:08:51.700 Obadiah and many more prophets warned that those who curse Israel will be cursed.
00:08:57.360 Your TPUSA Tampa event was a disaster.
00:09:01.340 Michelle Bachman was booed.
00:09:03.020 And about 10% walked out on her when she talked about standing with Israel.
00:09:07.140 Girl, you brag about how you convinced all these young voters to vote for Trump, but you can't convince them to stand with our Jewish brethren.
00:09:15.060 This is not a joke, Charlie.
00:09:16.100 I'm coming to you as a sister in faith.
00:09:18.060 You have accomplished so much by the hand of the Almighty.
00:09:23.000 But he is going to lift his hand from you.
00:09:27.840 Don't fall for Tucker, Candace, and the rest.
00:09:29.500 The Jews are under attack.
00:09:30.960 God warns us in the last days that he will wipe out the descendants of Edom because they stood by while their brothers, Jacob, Israel, was held in captivity and did nothing.
00:09:46.040 Don't be counted among the Edomites.
00:09:48.920 It will be to your peril as well as the unfinished work God was going to do through you.
00:09:57.580 Oh, but it's in a Bible verse, so he should be, like, chill with that.
00:10:07.820 No, he wasn't chill with that.
00:10:09.380 He did feel threatened by that.
00:10:12.460 That feels like you're pretending to be a Christian, but you have specific marching orders, and you don't think there's a single reason why Charlie could reasonably critique what Israel is doing after what's been done in Gaza?
00:10:25.800 They effectively have turned Gaza into a parking lot, and this is how you come at him over Tucker's speech?
00:10:32.900 Tucker's totally reasonable speech speaking about Jeffrey Epstein?
00:10:36.860 Hey, he harmed children, and he's being protected because he did that on behalf of Israel.
00:10:45.640 He did that for Israel.
00:10:48.500 Blackmail operation for Israel.
00:10:50.040 Everybody knows that, including Gen Z, and you're telling Charlie it's his job to convince Gen Z, like he's a psychological operation, that that's okay, that what Jeffrey Epstein did is fine because he has to stand with Judah.
00:11:03.780 He has to look at what happened.
00:11:05.260 He's got to flip the genesis and understand that even when they are behaving murderously, even when they are harming children, he better figure out how to support them and how to lie to people about how he feels about what they're doing.
00:11:23.020 That's really something.
00:11:24.760 It's really something, again, that you are hearing this from me.
00:11:28.740 It is becoming increasingly difficult to imagine how Turning Point is not naming and shaming these people.
00:11:36.400 I give them an opportunity here.
00:11:38.000 Why don't you come out and say who sent Charlie that message?
00:11:41.340 You won't.
00:11:42.740 You won't.
00:11:43.520 Of course you won't.
00:11:44.760 You're lining up employees and firing them for literally no reason.
00:11:48.640 We have proof of that later.
00:11:49.480 Before we get to that proof and that video, I want to let you guys know that we received a very interesting tip, which unfortunately means that our established column that we built on our Excel sheet about, I don't know, everywhere that we investigate, there seems to be this theme regarding adults that have been accused credibly, or people that have gone to prison for,
00:12:15.120 and actually have been tried and found guilty of sexual contact with minors, right?
00:12:21.080 That list we have built out for you.
00:12:22.940 Well, this time it grows and it is in relation to, it was not her directly, Lori Fransfee, Erica's mom.
00:12:30.040 Lori Fransfee and Larry Guinta, that Larry, Lawrence Buinta, is Erica's stepfather.
00:12:36.840 And they have a repeat business partner, a repeat business couple, Shelly and Lyle Reams, meaning they form businesses with these people.
00:12:47.300 Now, Lyle Reams ostensibly is Native American, a part of the, and excuse me if I'm saying this wrong, Tohono O'Dom Nation.
00:12:57.820 Back in 1998, Lyle Reams was tried and indicted, was indicted for sexual conduct with a minor under the age of 15.
00:13:09.240 He was about 41 at the time, and we can show you this, you can look at this case, you can scroll through to understand what happened.
00:13:16.560 The case made its way through the court system for a year and a half, during which time the young victim even gave a victim impact statement.
00:13:23.360 Before the case was dismissed without prejudice in 1999.
00:13:28.020 Without prejudice means that the victim has a right to bring about the charges again, and yeah, without prejudice.
00:13:36.480 Anyways, this background, I'm telling you this about Lyle because it was apparently not a bar to entry for Lori and Larry to pursue a business with Lyle.
00:13:44.120 Because fast forward to 2017, and together they filed to open a business located on a Native American reservation.
00:13:53.360 In a town called Sokaton, Arizona, maybe it's Sokaton.
00:13:58.680 Sokaton, for reference, has a population today of just 3,254 people.
00:14:06.580 40% of those people are children.
00:14:09.160 95% are, yeah, Native American.
00:14:12.660 So what exactly could represent, this is my question, a legitimate business interest amongst the Native American population on a Native American reservation?
00:14:24.420 Remember, this is at a time when Lori is doing defense work for the Department of Justice.
00:14:30.000 That's what she moved to Arizona for.
00:14:31.520 What's their interest here?
00:14:32.720 According to the formation docs, the business that they filed is called Desert Spirit Tech, LLC, okay?
00:14:40.800 Her name here is now Lorin, L-O-R-I-N, rather than Lori, which is other business documents.
00:14:47.920 And in looking through these docs, the place of business listed for, the place of business that's listed, full stop, is 26 Rose and Thobee, okay?
00:14:59.000 Well, that address does not appear to exist.
00:15:03.900 Rose and Thobee is an intersection, and we can pull this up live so you can see what we're seeing.
00:15:07.880 If we're wrong, we're happy to correct this.
00:15:10.060 But Rose is its own street.
00:15:11.260 Thobee is its own street.
00:15:12.900 The intersection, which we're going to zoom in on here, is, let's get in close there.
00:15:18.140 Because there's just maybe one building that you could maybe say was on Rose and Thobee.
00:15:22.880 Yeah, okay.
00:15:25.180 We don't have a 26 Rose and Thobee.
00:15:27.840 That doesn't exist, okay?
00:15:31.840 Maybe it's that building.
00:15:33.220 That's the only thing that looks like a building to me.
00:15:36.220 Again, I don't know what that building's doing.
00:15:39.800 There's another business on the same road that is owned by Mr. Lyle Reams and his wife, Shelly, which is called Generation 7 Farms.
00:15:47.300 In theory, it should be right next door to Lori and Larry's Spirit Tech, as its address is 21 Rose and Thobee.
00:15:53.800 And sadly, alas, we cannot find that one on a map either.
00:15:58.640 Maybe you guys will have better luck.
00:16:00.940 But what we can discern from the filing of Desert Tech is that Lauren Fransfee is listed as a 20% stakeholder in the business.
00:16:07.380 Larry Guinta, her husband, is also listed as a stakeholder and as the business's registered agent.
00:16:12.260 But what is not immediately discernible, however, is what exactly this Spirit Tech does.
00:16:19.820 Fortunately, it is required by law in, and I think every country, I mean, in every state, maybe not all of them, that when you form an LLC, you have to then publicize that you are doing so in a local newspaper and provide a general description of your intended business operations.
00:16:39.580 So I thought, great, that's an angle.
00:16:42.860 Oddly, however, Larry, who, by the way, is an agent.
00:16:46.960 Remember, he's the registered agent on the business.
00:16:49.320 Larry and Lori and the other two decided that for this business, they would issue the public notice in the Arizona Chinese News.
00:16:56.920 OK, here is proof, which they filed with the state, of their public notice.
00:17:00.920 They got it notarized by Arizona Chinese American publication saying, hey, we did it.
00:17:06.480 We ticked off that box by filing about what our business was going to be.
00:17:14.300 It's done.
00:17:15.580 Cool.
00:17:15.840 This is in December 2017.
00:17:17.880 You can see the state received it on December 6th.
00:17:20.360 They signed this on December 1st.
00:17:21.880 OK, now the Arizona Chinese newspaper, by the way, that's recognized.
00:17:26.000 You can do that.
00:17:26.560 It's not illegal.
00:17:27.080 It's recognized by the state as an optional publication to meet the requirement.
00:17:31.040 But as far as publications go, it's a bit obscure.
00:17:34.460 It's not exactly accessible to non-Mandarin speakers.
00:17:38.560 This is the website.
00:17:39.580 So good luck trying to source a 2017 LLC public notice.
00:17:46.540 Seriously, good luck.
00:17:47.200 If someone finds it and you will maybe receive this publication, which goes out once a week,
00:17:52.140 please email me at moretipsatcandiceowens.com because I would like to know what this tech,
00:17:58.060 easy tech, desert tech, euro tech, all these tech companies do exactly.
00:18:05.360 For reference, per their website, the Chinese news agency was founded in Phoenix, Arizona
00:18:10.400 in April of 1990.
00:18:11.620 Its mission is to create a cultural space for overseas Chinese and to serve the Chinese community.
00:18:18.960 I find this to be all very shady.
00:18:23.340 Talking to Native Americans, we've got Chinese.
00:18:26.200 I don't know what this business does.
00:18:28.200 This seems to be a recurring theme.
00:18:30.520 Shouldn't be, especially if our government is involved.
00:18:33.840 It should be very clear to figure out what everybody does.
00:18:36.260 And maybe maybe you're a better researcher than me.
00:18:39.020 And it's especially shady given the fact that it looks like, and I'm going to prod that
00:18:45.600 narrative further, that also back when Lori Franci formed Eurotech, there was another shady
00:18:51.480 character involved back in Cincinnati, Ohio.
00:18:54.220 This seems to be a common theme.
00:18:59.060 And we need to look into it further.
00:19:01.240 And I promise you that I am now going to because I don't like when people send legal
00:19:06.340 letters to my house because I'm telling the truth.
00:19:08.020 I just don't like it.
00:19:09.800 Anyway, we'll be right back after a brief break.
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00:21:57.640 So remember when yesterday I told you how I received a legal letter in part for noting
00:22:02.220 that a bunch of military men seem to have infiltrated Turning Point USA, that was one
00:22:07.760 of the sentences.
00:22:08.580 You said military men infiltrated Turning Point USA.
00:22:12.780 Well, this is a fun tweet that somebody pulled up from Tyler Boyer, the former COO.
00:22:18.960 He wrote this September 25th, 2018.
00:22:21.980 He wrote, we do have a team.
00:22:22.980 We can only do as much as police on campus will allow, and also working with police or
00:22:28.280 private security in a given venue.
00:22:29.900 We run everything like a military op.
00:22:32.000 All of our people are from that background.
00:22:34.860 Oh.
00:22:36.160 I told the truth.
00:22:36.920 Okay, great.
00:22:37.380 Just wanted to make sure.
00:22:38.120 Just wanted to, or maybe get a lawyer to send Tyler Boyer a letter.
00:22:42.880 Anyway, guys, got to get into this firing thing.
00:22:46.620 I have a lot now, a lot, and I got to organize it over the weekend and things to give to you
00:22:52.320 guys, and it's good because we're about to have a snowstorm and I can kind of plug in.
00:22:56.180 So I still don't understand what caused it.
00:22:59.820 I can't get to the root of what happened.
00:23:01.820 But what I can tell you is that one person got brought into an office by Andrew Colbett
00:23:09.320 and was told that the CMO got into an Uber car and asked, just, you know, striking up
00:23:19.380 some conversation with the Uber driver.
00:23:21.740 I was like, what do you think about Turning Point USA?
00:23:23.500 And like, you know, it's all Kirk thing.
00:23:24.560 And he starts saying, oh, well, I actually have a daughter who knows somebody that works
00:23:27.960 at Turning Point USA, and maybe she doesn't like the stuff that's going on at the company.
00:23:34.440 So an Uber driver was making small chat with an executive at Turning Point USA and said
00:23:41.720 his daughter knew someone and that that person had potentially said something that he didn't
00:23:48.060 really love, she didn't really love Erica at the helm.
00:23:50.040 Anyways, Andrew Colbett hauls this person into the office and starts asking about this Uber
00:23:54.380 conversation.
00:23:55.680 And of course, the employee was like, I literally have no idea what you're talking about, and
00:23:59.920 says that it was completely untrue.
00:24:01.080 Almost like they had fictionalized it entirely be for some other reason, for some other unknown
00:24:06.760 reason.
00:24:08.000 Anyway, another person who had worked there gets hauled into the office by the general
00:24:12.960 counsel, thinks that they are being brought in because they're going to get a raise or
00:24:18.760 a bonus because apparently, which makes perfect sense, things have been insane.
00:24:23.020 Obviously, they are all really have been working nonstop.
00:24:27.420 Think about the size and scale of the event that they put on.
00:24:31.080 At Charlie's Memorial Service, they had AmFest, they had a huge donor thing at Mar-a-Lago.
00:24:36.660 So everyone's been killing themselves and no one's getting raises and bonuses.
00:24:40.720 And yet, according to this person, Turning Point USA has brought in $250 million since
00:24:50.100 Charlie's assassination.
00:24:51.620 Good luck proving that I hurt your pockets.
00:24:54.600 Like what?
00:24:55.100 I think you did just fine this year, actually.
00:24:59.400 I don't think my podcast did too much there.
00:25:02.280 $250 million.
00:25:03.280 I can't even wrap my head around this.
00:25:05.800 LOL to the PR talking points that everyone's doing this for money.
00:25:10.940 I can't.
00:25:11.300 It's that is that is money that I cannot even comprehend outside of random articles written
00:25:16.600 in the in the Hindustan Times where people think that my net worth is $200 million and I have
00:25:20.760 72 houses.
00:25:22.340 Yeah, that's what's happening at Turning Point USA.
00:25:23.940 Anyway, another person.
00:25:26.520 Well, that first first that person regarding the Uber thing then said, if you want to know
00:25:30.540 my actual opinion to Andrew Colby, if you want to know my actual opinion about Erica,
00:25:34.720 you can just ask me.
00:25:36.300 And he proceeds to go, OK.
00:25:38.360 And then she kind of then illustrated that a lot of people just feel like outwardly the
00:25:44.700 company is presenting like they're one big family or one big family, one big family.
00:25:48.920 But then actually a lot of the employees feel that that's just a public presentation, that
00:25:54.460 Erica doesn't even know their names, that only a couple, a handful of people even have
00:25:59.760 access to her.
00:26:00.640 And so it doesn't feel like the same company.
00:26:02.120 I think that's a reasonable thing.
00:26:03.180 Anyways, fired.
00:26:04.300 Goodbye.
00:26:04.700 Within the same day, maybe the next day, I actually am not completely sure, another person
00:26:10.620 gets halted, thinks that she's getting a raise.
00:26:13.580 And actually, they just tell her that she's fired, that she's fired.
00:26:18.240 It's like thinking I crushed it at AmFest.
00:26:20.900 I am definitely about to get a raise.
00:26:23.400 This company is flush with cash.
00:26:25.280 Actually, you're fired.
00:26:26.080 And so she asks the attorney, why am I being fired?
00:26:30.340 And the attorney just says, we're going in a different direction.
00:26:35.220 You don't get to have an explanation.
00:26:36.660 Security is outside LEAF.
00:26:38.380 And so at this point, the employee hits record on their phone because they don't understand
00:26:43.140 what's happening.
00:26:43.960 And thankfully, they did.
00:26:45.120 So you can now listen to the, I guess, not excuse.
00:26:50.260 There's nothing really to listen to other than her not being able to get an answer of what
00:26:53.680 she did wrong.
00:26:54.380 And I'm making this very clear to you.
00:26:55.520 I am not kidding.
00:26:56.860 I promise you on everything.
00:26:58.900 I had never in my life communicated.
00:27:02.280 Maybe I saw her in Nevada.
00:27:03.080 I don't know.
00:27:03.380 I shouldn't say never in my life.
00:27:04.200 I might maybe was backstage.
00:27:06.040 I never spoke to this employee once, never anything at all, period.
00:27:11.880 Not one of my sources, nothing.
00:27:14.220 So this can't be related to me.
00:27:16.220 I don't think it's related to me.
00:27:17.540 But let's let's take a listen anyways, but they're all convinced they're just paranoid
00:27:21.140 and firing a bunch of people.
00:27:22.260 Take a listen.
00:27:22.640 I mean, I just, I mean, Frank, this is kind of wild.
00:27:29.080 I understand.
00:27:29.780 I understand where you're coming from.
00:27:30.920 I know.
00:27:31.260 And I know best to be here.
00:27:32.800 And so, I mean, I'm not, I'm not really content leaning for the day without further
00:27:39.440 documentation, explanation, anything.
00:27:41.680 I understand.
00:27:42.180 But it's time to go.
00:27:43.320 We're just going to say today's the last day.
00:27:45.340 And that's, that's what we're going to operate.
00:27:48.060 And there's nothing else y'all are going to offer me or plan to offer me.
00:27:52.140 No, I'll send you an email.
00:27:54.100 I'll go off for your instructions.
00:27:55.460 Essentially, the outlines, wait, it's a teacher.
00:27:57.780 So here it sounds like a worry.
00:27:59.340 And then detailing the pay.
00:28:02.000 And you will receive your year-end bonus from your performance.
00:28:06.480 Okay.
00:28:06.580 So that will, that will be in that paycheck deal.
00:28:10.100 Okay.
00:28:12.020 So, I mean, this is crazy.
00:28:18.160 Yeah, I understand.
00:28:19.060 I understand where you're coming from.
00:28:19.960 No, and I know you're going to keep saying that I understand.
00:28:21.900 Like, I know that.
00:28:22.920 No, I know.
00:28:23.300 And I know there's probably no magic string of words that I could piece together to procure
00:28:26.840 some type of answer.
00:28:27.980 But I think on a surface level, like, I'm not going to walk out of here until I say my piece.
00:28:32.200 Like, I mean, y'all know this.
00:28:34.260 I just worked a series of 89-year-old weeks plus for Ampest.
00:28:39.100 Yeah, I think it's...
00:28:39.480 I've had no direction or explanation since we've come back.
00:28:42.540 Our CEO has been assassinated.
00:28:44.680 I've done nothing but then yagered backwards for this organization and the playground wondering
00:28:48.200 if this is a prank.
00:28:49.580 It's not a prank.
00:28:50.620 I wouldn't know if you left.
00:28:51.340 So I'm just trying to understand.
00:28:53.640 No, I understand.
00:28:54.420 It's time that...
00:28:54.840 So do I get to have a conversation with Dylan?
00:28:57.240 Do I get to have a conversation with Justin or anybody or...
00:29:00.120 Nope.
00:29:00.760 No.
00:29:01.180 And there's no explanation as to why I'm going to let go.
00:29:03.960 Despite...
00:29:04.600 Right now, right now, we'll leave it all.
00:29:06.280 You know, and you're going to keep saying a different direction.
00:29:08.300 I'm just trying to understand how I've met multiple times with my...
00:29:11.340 Well, we're going a different direction with the team, but I have to ask you to leave now.
00:29:14.080 You have to ask me to leave property?
00:29:15.840 Yes.
00:29:16.840 Due to what, Frank?
00:29:18.140 Because we're asking you to leave because you've been terminated and run off.
00:29:20.980 But there's no explanation or documentation for this.
00:29:24.320 I've never had one bad review from Dylan.
00:29:26.200 I've never had one issue with the company.
00:29:28.560 I've never done anything unethical.
00:29:30.940 And so I'm sitting here understanding why my entire livelihood is being completely tossed out.
00:29:35.720 I mean, I sat in this chair...
00:29:36.760 No, you're going to do great things.
00:29:38.580 No, and I plan to...
00:29:39.760 I don't think you're likely to be able to be tossed out.
00:29:42.120 I think you're very successful.
00:29:43.680 Well, my paycheck every other week is being tossed out, Frank, with absolutely no warning whatsoever.
00:29:48.140 I understand.
00:29:48.980 But at this time, it's time for you to...
00:29:50.840 It's time for me to go, why?
00:29:53.100 Like, this is the treatment that Turning Point is offering now.
00:29:56.560 It's time we go, Carl.
00:29:58.900 Frank, this is crazy.
00:30:00.980 I understand where you're from.
00:30:02.440 I don't think you do.
00:30:04.040 This feels very heartless.
00:30:05.440 This feels without emotion.
00:30:06.840 I do understand what you're from.
00:30:08.220 This feels completely without emotion.
00:30:09.980 This is still very comfortable.
00:30:10.880 But at this time, I have to ask you, Frank, to ask you.
00:30:13.520 Frank, I'm really not content doing that.
00:30:15.380 Okay.
00:30:15.660 Because I know that when I leave there, my credential's not going to get back in, and I'm never going to have the opportunity to speak with somebody at this company as to why I'm being terminated after never having my performance question, after never doing anything wrong, after working tirelessly through the death of Charlie.
00:30:31.500 This is wild.
00:30:33.340 And you can't, like, that's completely unsatisfactory.
00:30:37.000 And so I have to come home tonight with no plan, no understanding, asking for clarity multiple weeks in a row.
00:30:42.400 And I just, I mean, I'm confused.
00:30:44.760 I sat in your office when that whole GC situation happened.
00:30:48.520 And you said, and I quote, that if you don't get that job, I'm going to personally think that you've got screwed over.
00:30:53.480 And now I'm sitting here, and I'm getting screwed over in a completely different capacity with no explanation.
00:30:58.160 Yeah, I understand where you're coming from, but at this time, you know.
00:31:01.700 So there's going to be absolutely no explanation as to why I'm terminated.
00:31:04.600 So I go to my job, I can't explain as to why this chapter is closed.
00:31:08.220 We're going in a different direction.
00:31:09.680 That's not an explanation, Frank.
00:31:11.340 It's the explanation that we're providing at.
00:31:13.280 Providing from who?
00:31:14.820 From the organization.
00:31:16.500 From who, though?
00:31:17.300 Justin, from Dylan, from?
00:31:18.200 From the organization.
00:31:19.160 I only speak for the organization.
00:31:20.720 So different direction means what?
00:31:22.220 Losing people that bend their back words for the organization, losing people that would be willing to do anything for the organization,
00:31:27.400 losing people that haven't done anything wrong, like.
00:31:29.920 You're so interested in what you're saying, and we're taking on, and now it's time for you to go.
00:31:34.740 And so, at the minute time, say we peace, and now it's time for you to go.
00:31:39.040 So.
00:31:39.320 Okay.
00:31:40.100 Well, this is.
00:31:40.780 I honestly can't even imagine this at all.
00:31:46.960 80 to 90 hour weeks, your CEO just got publicly assassinated, and you've not stopped working since.
00:31:57.260 You think you're going in because they're going to be like, hey, we've made $20 million, and we see you.
00:32:02.400 We see you.
00:32:03.900 And they say, we're moving in a different direction.
00:32:08.600 And we're actually, you don't even, or you're not even allowed to speak to everyone that you just worked for.
00:32:13.220 You're not even allowed to see, and they're just having beefy security guards there to walk you out.
00:32:19.920 She is correct in saying that this is heartless.
00:32:23.440 Is it illegal?
00:32:24.240 No.
00:32:25.020 You could do this.
00:32:26.340 A lot of the stuff, as we've said, the common theme here is what Turning Point is doing is legal, but it's also immoral.
00:32:34.400 I wouldn't do it.
00:32:36.160 I would be so honest, Mick.
00:32:37.400 Look, we appreciate every, obviously, everything you've done, you've been killing yourself.
00:32:40.940 You know what?
00:32:41.400 We're a little paranoid schizo right now, and we just don't know who to trust.
00:32:45.000 We gotta give it to everybody.
00:32:46.720 Erica doesn't know who to trust.
00:32:47.480 That's why she doesn't want to be in here, because she doesn't know who's actually the person leaking.
00:32:51.240 Give that girl something.
00:32:53.040 I've asked, and I've spoken to a few of the people.
00:32:57.820 That same person that you heard, their general counsel, then showed up at someone's house.
00:33:02.480 The setup here was crazy.
00:33:04.440 What happened to this next girl is crazy, okay?
00:33:06.920 Marina Minas, this is the Uber chick.
00:33:09.800 Marina Minas, she, I don't know, I guess she's the one out here.
00:33:14.680 I shouldn't say sniping employees.
00:33:15.800 That's not the right analogy to use, especially given the circumstances.
00:33:18.540 But she's kind of involved in a lot of this for some reason.
00:33:21.260 Her name keeps coming up.
00:33:22.120 And so another person set up this kind of fake Zoom.
00:33:26.120 This employee is part-time.
00:33:28.320 It kind of set up this fake Zoom meeting.
00:33:30.760 And so she's at home.
00:33:31.760 She's logged in this meeting, and her phone's ringing.
00:33:33.940 I'm going to say allegedly, but this is what happened.
00:33:36.660 Allegedly, her phone's ringing nonstop, nonstop.
00:33:38.880 She doesn't recognize the number.
00:33:39.920 She doesn't know what's happening.
00:33:40.700 She's still on this call.
00:33:41.640 Eventually, she picks up, and it's the general counsel.
00:33:44.800 And he's like, hey, I'm outside.
00:33:47.420 You're fired.
00:33:48.480 And come to the door and let me in to get your work computer.
00:33:51.340 And let me tell you something right now.
00:33:53.220 If you try to delete anything, just so you know, we've installed something, and we'll know that you did it.
00:33:59.800 She has no idea what's happening.
00:34:01.040 She's home with her kids, alone, with her kids.
00:34:03.340 There's no, she's not her husband there, nothing.
00:34:05.080 And so, obviously, she just complies.
00:34:06.620 My sense when I hear that story is they thought they were going to find something.
00:34:10.360 They thought there's some sort of paranoia going on.
00:34:13.400 Maybe they thought the same thing with this girl.
00:34:15.100 They were going to grab the tech, and they were going to find something.
00:34:17.180 Then this girl.
00:34:18.140 But rolling up at someone's house?
00:34:20.180 Like, what?
00:34:22.880 Dude, this could have been an email.
00:34:24.760 No one wants what's on this computer.
00:34:27.020 You're good.
00:34:27.500 You can literally read what's everything.
00:34:29.300 I don't.
00:34:29.900 This is wild to me.
00:34:31.840 Again, same exact situation.
00:34:34.500 I had never once spoken to that person, not through a third party, nothing.
00:34:40.140 Never spoke to that person either.
00:34:41.780 It seems like a little bit of paranoia is going on, but the manner in which they are handling this,
00:34:47.660 I don't know, guys.
00:34:49.160 What's your vibe?
00:34:50.040 What's happening here?
00:34:51.280 What could have happened that would lead to this?
00:34:53.780 How do you treat people like this that are actually, I would say, remarkably staying bottled up
00:34:59.560 and not, they should have been leaking if this is the stress they've been going through?
00:35:02.240 I mean, working 80, 90-hour weeks and just being like, peace, goodbye, nothing.
00:35:07.640 Again, if I'm a major donor to Turning Point USA, this ain't it.
00:35:15.360 This is not it.
00:35:16.220 But also, maybe you're the kind of donor that sends Charlie those kinds of messages.
00:35:20.060 So you like it.
00:35:21.000 You're into that.
00:35:21.720 It feels like the right thing to do.
00:35:23.620 Like, everybody has got to go.
00:35:24.900 And it's giving paranoid and it's giving cult-like, but this is not it.
00:35:30.020 Anyway, we will have a lot more.
00:35:31.700 We also now are in possession of a Zoom call, which Erica held as the new CEO just five days
00:35:40.180 after Charlie was publicly assassinated.
00:35:42.460 And one of the strangest things is that she recommends that if employees need time to grieve,
00:35:48.640 that they take time off.
00:35:49.640 What's strange about that is the employees are like, maybe you need to take time off
00:35:55.920 because your husband just got publicly assassinated.
00:35:57.500 They thought it was very strange.
00:35:58.740 And apparently, she didn't.
00:36:00.040 Now, everyone's saying she was in the office every day with Stacey Sheridan.
00:36:03.480 I told you that's like the chief fundraiser lady.
00:36:06.060 They're in the office every day following Charlie's assassination.
00:36:09.980 They got to that $250 million, so I guess it was worth it.
00:36:12.420 But the people thought it was a bit off-putting.
00:36:14.420 And we have that call, and I can confirm that's not hearsay.
00:36:18.200 That is true.
00:36:19.640 She does recommend that they need to.
00:36:21.380 They take time off to grieve, which is nice, but also makes me mildly uncomfortable.
00:36:27.760 Anyway, you guys, we will take a brief break, and we will come back.
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00:38:29.000 Somebody in the chat said the way that girl fired was evil, and it was just not Christian.
00:38:32.780 I totally agree with that.
00:38:34.720 Your reason can be anything.
00:38:36.000 This is actually a true story because I was going through so many emotions after Charlie's assassination,
00:38:42.260 and I just communicated that to people.
00:38:44.440 And we definitely, obviously, went through some changes on the security front, which makes sense
00:38:50.340 because I think all of us in the world felt unsafe when somebody who's a good person can be assassinated in broad daylight.
00:38:57.220 And I was very happy with my current security apparatus and sort of said to them as we were changing things,
00:39:03.460 like, this is me.
00:39:04.540 I was like, you've done nothing wrong.
00:39:05.700 I am just beyond paranoid, and here's what I have to do to solve my paranoia.
00:39:11.080 I just kind of blurted at them and said, you've been amazing.
00:39:13.760 This is totally a me thing.
00:39:15.280 It is not you.
00:39:16.580 And it was great.
00:39:17.760 It was such a healthy conversation.
00:39:19.260 They said they totally understood and that they knew that I was going to have these sorts of concerns.
00:39:23.840 And I said, I hope I can work with you down the line.
00:39:27.640 I'm sure down the line I could come back to you in 12 months and feel totally differently.
00:39:31.800 But right now I'm just in a certain state right now that this doesn't work for me in this moment.
00:39:37.720 Again, they were fantastic.
00:39:38.800 There was no reason other than me needing to feel like I needed to make some changes.
00:39:43.620 So they could have done that.
00:39:45.900 They could have been honest and said, you've been amazing, and we're a little paranoid right now, and we just have to go through some changes.
00:39:53.720 There's no humanity in that.
00:39:55.020 And I do agree with you that there is a lack of Christianity in the way that that was handled.
00:39:59.400 And the fact that she thought for a second it was a joke because of how hard she had worked, it's sad.
00:40:03.580 It genuinely is sad.
00:40:05.740 And she's not the only one.
00:40:06.920 She's just the one person who had the wherewithal to go, let me hit record because I don't know what's happening right now.
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00:40:23.460 I'm telling you guys, we have a massive snowstorm coming tomorrow, which is changing a lot.
00:40:28.000 The South shuts down when there are snowstorms, and we have it coming on Saturday.
00:40:32.960 Okay, long story short, we have a wedding that was supposed to be on Saturday that's now happening tomorrow.
00:40:37.900 So for the book club, we're making it earlier tomorrow.
00:40:40.360 You might be at work.
00:40:41.280 If you are, you can still catch it, of course, on the website, but you probably won't be able to catch it live.
00:40:46.060 I hope you are.
00:40:46.940 This is going to be tomorrow at 11 a.m. Eastern.
00:40:50.780 So just giving you guys that little update.
00:40:52.720 It'll be earlier than we had initially anticipated to accommodate all the changes to our schedule over the weekend because the South does not do snow.
00:40:59.880 I'm a Connecticut girl.
00:41:00.480 We do snow.
00:41:01.020 Tennessee, they don't do snow.
00:41:03.440 Life shuts down for about a week.
00:41:05.540 Let's read the top comment from last episode.
00:41:07.760 It is from Miss Swayze.
00:41:09.760 She writes, we need an Erica Kirk series just like the Brigitte McCrone series.
00:41:15.220 Well, I do want to do perhaps not an entire series, but a couple of episodes dedicated to that, which we have been working on in the background to give everybody something solid.
00:41:25.180 There's a lot of, like I said, innuendo online, some things that are true, some things that are not true.
00:41:29.260 But I do think given the size and scale of this company, the public does deserve, and since the media is never going to do it, the mainstream media apparatus is never going to do it.
00:41:38.280 Something that is solid and backed by facts and documents that tells you about who this new CEO is because I think it's fair to say she is not Charlie.
00:41:48.840 I can't imagine Charlie would have allowed that to happen.
00:41:53.160 That made me so uncomfortable, and I'm sure it made the rest of you guys uncomfortable to listen to.
00:41:57.400 But, hey, the good news is we're getting a lot more information about Turning Point USA.
00:42:01.840 So there is, I guess, sort of the natural karma to that.
00:42:07.060 Some more comments from today's episode.
00:42:10.640 Gray Scout writes,
00:42:11.600 Thank you very much for saying that.
00:42:30.880 Rosario writes,
00:42:31.420 Why can't she spell out G-O-D?
00:42:34.500 It reminds me of how Erica never says Jesus Christ.
00:42:38.240 She just can't say it.
00:42:39.240 She only ever says the Lord or God.
00:42:41.000 I wonder which Lord and God she's really talking about.
00:42:42.920 Biblical Israel was a people, not a land or its government.
00:42:48.380 You will not get a disagreement with me.
00:42:50.200 I am Catholic about that at all.
00:42:52.620 And I think, like I said, Christian Zionism has been put on trial this year, and I'm happy for that.
00:42:59.580 I think we're all awakening, and this is clearly not a religion, a religious philosophy at all.
00:43:06.100 They act like a cult.
00:43:07.660 The behavior of them is like a cult, and it's always with this veneer of,
00:43:11.400 your loving Christian sister is telling you this, and you're like,
00:43:15.800 Why do I feel like you're going to harm me?
00:43:18.140 But you are citing biblical scripture and trying to create this illusion,
00:43:23.880 like this is coming from the heart and is somehow not a threat.
00:43:26.640 Maybe Turning Point will come out and say who that message is from.
00:43:29.060 We'll see.
00:43:30.040 Jason Blake writes,
00:43:31.360 You do us and Charlie proud.
00:43:33.020 Keep up the good fight.
00:43:33.920 Thank you.
00:43:34.300 Thank you.
00:43:34.640 Thank you for the work that you do.
00:43:36.180 The world is gay.
00:43:37.820 Christ is king.
00:43:38.760 All the best to you and yours.
00:43:39.880 Thank you so much.
00:43:41.400 Sugar Magnolia writes,
00:43:42.920 TPUSA gives megachurch series vibes now, led by Tammy Faye, Greenleaf, Righteous Gemstones.
00:43:49.920 It's now giving all the things that people didn't follow and fall in love with Charlie Kirk for.
00:43:53.600 Yes, I agree that Charlie Kirk, when we were hitting the ground,
00:43:58.000 it was about free markets and capital, and he was never shy about discussing his faith.
00:44:01.000 And like I said, it then dramatically changed, and it seems like they are now
00:44:04.780 pretending to be a faith organization.
00:44:06.740 Well, if you are going to pretend to be an organization that is dedicated to faith,
00:44:10.380 then maybe treat your employees better than that.
00:44:13.160 I don't know.
00:44:13.660 I think that that's a fair ask from the public.
00:44:16.840 Cohen Film writes,
00:44:18.200 There needs to be a TPUSA alternative that is America first and not Philadelphia first to reach young Americans.
00:44:24.080 Young people avoid TPUSA.
00:44:25.900 I think that will be the natural occurrence is when something something will rise, take its place,
00:44:30.800 when something becomes stale or dishonest or corporate, which, by the way, like I said, was exactly what Charlie set out to disrupt.
00:44:38.380 He wanted to become the new RNC.
00:44:40.960 He felt that people just gave the RNC millions, and yet they had no impact on the youth generation.
00:44:46.480 He wanted to change that, and he did change that.
00:44:49.980 And now it seems like in the wake of his assassination, it's becoming the new RNC, but with a faith bent.
00:44:58.260 Is that fair?
00:44:59.120 I think that's fair.
00:44:59.800 I think my opinion is very fair.
00:45:01.780 Yeah, I agree with you.
00:45:03.020 I think something naturally will rise to take its place, and I think they know that.
00:45:06.060 I think that's really what these legal letters are about.
00:45:08.960 You cannot, however, sue your way into relevancy.
00:45:13.420 You cannot sue your way into public favor.
00:45:16.680 It doesn't work.
00:45:17.460 That's old-world mentality thinking.
00:45:19.400 The people that are giving you that advice are wrong, and you are going to, like I said,
00:45:23.560 it's a difficult hill to climb to say that you're being hurt by these videos when you raked in $250 million in a couple of weeks.
00:45:32.440 I think it's a tough hill to climb.
00:45:33.980 Maybe it's not.
00:45:34.740 Maybe you've got some judges in your pockets.
00:45:36.000 Who knows, it's, you know, it's Arizona, Maricopa County, is one of the most corrupt counties in the nation.
00:45:41.160 But outside of that, it just doesn't even make sense to pretend that you're hurting financially,
00:45:46.120 especially as you are now getting rid of a bunch of people on your payroll.
00:45:50.060 And I guess you're going to bring some new people in, and they're going to be questioned about their allegiance to Erica or something.
00:45:57.880 Who knows?
00:45:58.320 Anyway, that's what we have for you today, you guys.
00:46:01.600 We will hopefully see you on Monday.
00:46:04.120 We don't know how much snow we are going to get.
00:46:06.160 Like I said, the infrastructure here, they just do not plow the roads.
00:46:10.140 Because in the north, we have businesses and free markets get in there and don't have to rely on the government,
00:46:15.000 but there'll be like a plow business.
00:46:16.740 Everything is pretty much plowed overnight.
00:46:18.860 Down here, the governments just don't have enough trucks, and the roads don't stay plowed for a long time.
00:46:24.320 And so it could be a bit of a slip and slide, and we may not have a show due to weather on Monday.
00:46:29.220 Hopefully that is not the case.
00:46:31.880 I'll let you know on social media.
00:46:33.920 We will hopefully see you guys then.
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