Candace Owens - EXCLUSIVE： Kash Patel Dances Around Israelis On 9⧸10. ｜ Candace Ep 258

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00:00:15.280 All right, you guys, let's jump right back into it. Back into the investigation because I have

00:00:19.980 some incredibly interesting updates for you. Actually, some explosive revelations regarding

00:00:26.520 the Charlie Kirk case. Now buckle up because there's this country that's only the size of New

00:00:32.360 Jersey. It's always the victim. It turns out that they had some people on the ground that day.

00:00:38.540 And I just want to be clear here, no matter what I say throughout this episode, please remember that

00:00:42.220 they are always the victim. Historically, they have always been the victim and they have done nothing

00:00:46.080 wrong. Didn't do nothing wrong on 9-10 either. In other news, the McCoys, let's jump back into their

00:00:52.780 story because I've learned some crazy interesting data points to add to our timeline. You know,

00:00:58.100 I love me a timeline. So let's jump back in. Welcome back to Candice.

00:01:02.060 Candice. Do you know that moment when your subconscious kind of meets your conscious? Like

00:01:22.900 you just suddenly, your subconscious is storing all this information and it's maybe flagging something

00:01:27.220 for you. That's a little weird, but you haven't come to realize it yet. And then all of a sudden

00:01:31.860 the information breaks the surface and you're like, aha, I got it. I didn't even realize that

00:01:36.620 that thing that happened a long time ago was a little bit weird. And suddenly you're behaving like

00:01:41.240 Dory, the bluefish from the movie Finding Nemo when she remembers the P. Sherman address from

00:01:46.500 Australia. You guys know that moment. Take a watch.

00:01:50.540 So, Chyenne, Sydney. P. Sherman 42, all of the way, Sydney.

00:01:57.320 Ah! Nemo!

00:01:59.100 Ah! It's you!

00:02:00.480 You're Nemo!

00:02:01.240 Yes! Yes! I'm Nemo!

00:02:04.380 Crime solved. Okay, that is how it works. Never ignore your subconscious. That's why I say pay attention

00:02:10.060 to my dreams. I don't care who has to laugh at me about it. And there was this little something

00:02:15.180 that flagged in the back of my mind as odd in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination. One of

00:02:21.840 these things that might seem small, but it's always the small details that help to paint

00:02:27.960 the broader and bigger picture, right? Elle Woods in the movie Legally Blonde, she was absolutely

00:02:32.940 correct when she said that people who work out have endorphins and happy people don't kill their

00:02:38.880 husbands. Anyway, the thing that I realized is that Mikey McCoy, the chief of staff of Turning

00:02:44.760 Point USA, Mikey McCoy, for whatever reason, he always requires an adjective. Whenever they

00:02:53.140 discuss Mikey McCoy, there's an adjective before they say his name. A bunch of people in the

00:02:57.480 Turning Point USA orbit described Mikey McCoy in this very unique manner. I want you to take

00:03:03.140 a listen to that.

00:03:04.420 Let me tell you who the heroes were in this whole thing. We're going to start with 23-year-old

00:03:10.740 Mikey McCoy. And that's when the great Mikey McCoy showed up.

00:03:15.540 And my husband's chief of staff, the amazing Mikey McCoy.

00:03:20.420 My friend Mikey McCoy, the brilliant 24-year-old who at the time when Charlie was shot was 23

00:03:25.680 and was a hero that day.

00:03:28.000 I used to be known as Charlie Kirk's pastor. Now I'm known as Mikey McCoy's dad.

00:03:31.200 He clicked into gear eventually. It was amazing.

00:03:34.860 Mikey was a heroic figure on that day.

00:03:37.080 Amazing. Heroic. He was brilliant. It stood out to me really because it's only Mikey that

00:03:48.580 they moved to do it for. And objectively speaking, okay, I don't care what your experience in life

00:03:54.340 is. I would not move to insist that someone was quote unquote heroic for walking away from

00:04:01.880 their friend after he was shot. Okay. I just wouldn't, that wouldn't be the adjective that came

00:04:05.840 to my mind. Heroic. I also don't feel the need ever to qualify any of my friends with an adjective.

00:04:12.820 Think about how strange it would be if on this show, every time I cover Tucker Carlson, I was like,

00:04:16.760 the spectacular Tucker Carlson. The breathtaking Tucker Carlson is under attack in this moment.

00:04:24.080 You'd be like, why are you doing that? Why do I feel like you're trying to program me?

00:04:27.620 This only made me more interested in Mikey and the McCoy story. And I want to be super clear here.

00:04:32.480 No innuendo. I don't think that, I know that Mikey McCoy did not kill Charlie Kirk. We watch him

00:04:38.760 in those moments, but it's also becoming pretty apparent to me that the stage was being set for

00:04:44.500 Mikey to become the new Charlie. In fact, on stage at the memorial event for Charlie and elsewhere,

00:04:50.660 they were trying to prime the public for that plausibility. Almost like it was this psychological

00:04:56.300 operation, nod to Rob McCoy and his family lineage, to see Mikey as capable of filling Charlie's shoes.

00:05:05.980 Take a listen.

00:05:06.660 Let me tell you something about Mikey. Mikey's been with Charlie for several years. He's 23 years old.

00:05:13.360 He is wise beyond his years. And when that tragedy struck, Mikey was an absolute hero who kept

00:05:22.800 everybody calm and did some of the most mundane things you would think you would need to do on the worst

00:05:31.160 day of his life. And he continues to be a rock. He's been following Jesus for a long time. I'm hoping that

00:05:39.280 Mikey one day will follow in Charlie's footsteps right to the college campus because he has the ability,

00:05:44.180 the demeanor, the grace, the knowledge to do so. Set an example for the believers

00:05:51.180 in speech and conduct and love, in faith and in purity. Our speaker today, Mikey McCoy, has done that.

00:06:05.460 His path was pretty much like Charlie Kirk's path.

00:06:10.040 Pretty much like Charlie Kirk's path. And he's got the grace and the wits and everything. It's

00:06:16.320 amazing. OK, and if you're wondering why we also included Erica saying the amazing Mikey McCoy in

00:06:21.080 her first speech, it's because Rob McCoy oddly refers back to Erica's speech when he is asked

00:06:28.840 specifically what he believes Mikey's future is going to be at Turning Point USA. OK, he's going to

00:06:35.500 start. You're going to see he's going to answer a question. The show is Faith, the Faith Forward

00:06:39.760 show. And he starts to answer the question, but then he sort of cuts himself off and he trails

00:06:44.640 into a different topic, almost as if he catches himself. Take a listen.

00:06:50.360 And then Mikey specifically, like how he's going to kind of fit into that picture, because when I'm

00:06:53.860 seeing him speak, man, I'm like, dude, this Mikey is going to have a humongous role within this

00:06:58.660 organization. So Charlie was an avid journaler, journaler, very avid. And when Erica started opening

00:07:05.700 up his journals after he was killed, she started reading. Charlie had a plan all the way through

00:07:11.080 2028. Wow. Written out. Written out. I mean, there's an order of succession. And so when she

00:07:20.380 comes out and she says the amazing, I think she said the amazing Mikey McCoy. Mikey McCoy, yeah.

00:07:24.200 Um, they, and this is one of the things I, I would share with Mikey. I'd share with Charlie and I learned

00:07:32.180 it from Steve Smotherman and Pastor Steve Smotherman said it to Charlie. In a, where, where you're a public

00:07:38.300 figure, you have very little private privacy. That was weird, right? That's a weird way to try to

00:07:49.980 answer that question. What's he doing there? Is he trying to make us believe, but not explicitly

00:07:55.660 state, but kind of explicitly state, or maybe implicitly state that Charlie's future, or rather

00:08:01.900 Mikey McCoy's future was written by Charlie in one of these journals? That's what I was picking up.

00:08:08.520 That's what I feel like he was throwing down. Let me know if I'm crazy, but that was a weird way to

00:08:13.760 answer. And he's like, so when Erica comes out and she says the amazing Mikey McCoy, he talks about

00:08:17.400 the journals. What's going on here? Now I'm going to give you some data points to back this up. Now

00:08:22.400 I maintain that the wonderful Mikey McCoy doesn't strike me as intrinsically evil. Something Charlie

00:08:30.640 used to always say to me is the eyes are the window to the soul. I don't see this intrinsic evil when I

00:08:36.140 look at Mikey McCoy's eyes, but however, I do think he was hyped. Okay. I think Mikey was promised or

00:08:46.980 told or encouraged that he would become the new Charlie. And it is a fact that that was the

00:08:52.840 number one sentiment that we received from our Turning Point USA insiders following Charlie's

00:08:57.880 assassination. That the, you know, supercalifragilistic, ispialidocious Mikey McCoy

00:09:03.100 appeared to have like an extra spring in his step that made them all a little bit uncomfortable

00:09:07.540 in the aftermath. And that he seemed all too happy to assume Charlie's position. Look,

00:09:13.900 he's already speaking at Liberty University. Why? Because he made some phone calls that that's,

00:09:19.700 have we lowered the standards for what makes somebody a hero in 2025? I don't know. And I

00:09:26.920 will say that beyond the sentiment that was expressed to us from these Turning Point USA

00:09:30.120 insiders, there are some interesting facts. Fact number one, for whatever reason, in the month,

00:09:38.240 and I'm going to make sure that I address my timeline here, in the month leading up to Charlie's

00:09:46.320 death, Mikey McCoy was interested in capturing some behind the scenes footage, more intimate moments

00:09:54.360 of Charlie's life. And I'm going to give you two examples of that. Okay. Example number one,

00:09:59.820 Charlie's very last overseas trip to Korea. This was four days before he died. For whatever reason,

00:10:05.740 Mikey McCoy felt suddenly inspired to try his luck, miking up Charlie and capturing him on the road.

00:10:14.060 And he says, this is the first time he ever did it. Take a listen to Mikey McCoy explain that.

00:10:18.120 Today is really fun because Mikey and Blake are going to talk about their last trip with Charlie to

00:10:23.760 Asia. And Mikey, you are now in the driver's seat. The floor is yours.

00:10:27.820 Yeah. It's crazy to think that was just three, four days before Utah.

00:10:31.960 Crazy. And it was Charlie's dream to always go to Asia. And Blake and I got the gift of being able

00:10:37.960 to tag along for that. And so I brought the camera with me. I've never traveled with the camera before,

00:10:44.820 but I decided, you know, it'd be a good idea to mic Charlie up, do some content with him while we're

00:10:50.240 there. Okay.

00:10:52.380 Okay. That is remarkable. Obviously, for the first time, he decided to mic. It's not something that

00:10:58.160 somebody does as a chief of staff. It's not something that somebody does in that role.

00:11:02.320 Okay. I've traveled with Charlie everywhere. Very strange. The person that mics is always the AV

00:11:06.180 person. And I would assume there were some AV people that were on hand given the trip. But

00:11:12.200 anyways, that's not it. Okay. That's just one point that we have. And don't worry, because I'm going to

00:11:16.760 show you after I plotted all this into our timeline. Just a few weeks before Charlie died, Mikey McCoy

00:11:22.320 and his wife, Eliza, for the very first time. Now, this is according to Eliza McCoy. She shared that

00:11:28.780 it was the first time ever that they went on vacation. Her and Mikey went on vacation with Erica

00:11:35.160 and Charlie. Here's that post on Instagram. That second paragraph begins, we spent a few weeks together

00:11:40.680 this summer. Our first family trip together. Okay. Getting real close there. And while they

00:11:47.600 were on this very first time together for a couple of weeks vacation, something moved the McCoys to

00:11:54.660 capture intimate and sweet moments of the Kirk family from behind the scenes. Now, you know which

00:12:00.440 footage I'm talking about. It's the footage that has since gone viral of Charlie walking with his

00:12:04.660 children and Erica. Erica grabs his hand. It's actually a very sweet moment. And it moved a lot of us.

00:12:09.760 People were, I know I was crying when I first saw this footage a couple of days

00:12:13.500 after Charlie died. Well, let me tell you guys something. Fortunately, the McCoys were the ones

00:12:20.520 that captured that footage. See, my thing is I need to know what moved them to do that.

00:12:26.280 Are they really just that extraordinary? Is it the extraordinarily lucky Mikey McCoy? Because

00:12:31.540 I was thinking about it because I have a big family and people with families know. And you can go

00:12:37.160 through Charlie's Instagram, as I have done. There's always one person missing from intimate

00:12:43.500 family moments when they're on the fly. They're not planned, right? There tends to be one family

00:12:46.860 member missing because one person grabs the camera and you're capturing the kids with dad or you're

00:12:52.400 capturing the kids with mom or it's just the kids, whatever it is. That's how family footage,

00:12:57.620 when it's organic, tends to look right. And of course, on holidays, you get together, you stand up,

00:13:02.020 you capture a picture. That is the pattern. If you go through Erica, Charlie's Instagram,

00:13:07.840 Charlie's missing or Erica's missing. And that's because they're filming each other. But thankfully,

00:13:12.220 the McCoys were on hand in what looks like mid-July or early August. Into early August,

00:13:18.120 according to my sources, we will nail down these specific dates in the future. We are working on it,

00:13:23.960 okay? Strikes me as odd that Mikey is just picking up the camera and capturing these moments. I don't know.

00:13:30.120 I don't know. For the first time ever, I don't like it. I don't like it at all. And if I'm in

00:13:34.940 Erica's position, I'm starting to look at him funny like, what's going on here, okay? Now let's

00:13:40.420 bring in Daddy McCoy. Wouldn't say he strikes me as something else entirely. And he similarly had

00:13:47.400 some rather impeccable timing. Rob McCoy, as you very well know, was the senior pastor of the God

00:13:53.720 Speak Calvary Chapel in Thousand Oaks, California. You should also know, by the way, let me introduce

00:14:00.720 this to you right now because I didn't know that he was funded. His church was funded by the Wilkes

00:14:06.280 Brothers down in Texas. The Wilkes Brothers are the ones that fund Daily Wire, were the initial

00:14:12.160 seed money behind the Daily Wire, not the initial seed money behind PragerU, but they majorly fund

00:14:17.960 Prager University as well. So that's an interesting web that's being woven before our eyes, right?

00:14:24.240 You've got PragerU, and now you've got this church, and they are a part of what is described

00:14:30.060 online as a cult. It's like Christians for Jews. You look into it yourself. I honestly can't explain 0.99

00:14:37.060 it, but that's just something that you should know in the background. Anyway, for whatever reason,

00:14:41.180 after 17 years as the head pastor of that church, Rob McCoy, it was publicly announced in January of

00:14:49.180 this year that he would be stepping down as the head pastor and instead assuming the role of pastor

00:14:55.920 emeritus. Now, for the uninitiated, emeritus is basically just an honorific title, right, bestowed upon

00:15:03.800 someone after they retire from some distinguished position. For Rob McCoy, they had planned that

00:15:11.480 transition. That transition took effect in mid-July of this year, okay? Mid-July of this year is when

00:15:17.940 he officially steps down from the church. A lot going on here in McCoy land. Now, in case you're

00:15:22.380 thinking, well, that doesn't mean that he was doing all of that and transitioning because he was

00:15:26.700 anticipating some bigger role at Turning Point USA and maybe therefore planning to wind down his life

00:15:33.540 in California. No, actually, that's exactly the reason that was cited when it was reported on in

00:15:40.000 January. In the Ventura County Star, they wrote, quote, he's approaching a transition in July. He'll

00:15:47.280 step down as the senior pastor of Godspeak and hand the reins to his son-in-law, Micah Stevens,

00:15:52.560 the church's administrative and worship pastor. McCoy will become the emeritus pastor and will still

00:15:57.880 preach regularly at the church in a role that could last into the mid-70s. And then it goes on to say

00:16:02.760 when McCoy's responsibilities grew at Turning Point USA, he and his wife sold their home in

00:16:08.080 Thousand Oaks and bought a home in the Phoenix area. Now, he said that he bought a different place in

00:16:15.020 Thousand Oaks. He also owns a home in Coronado near San Diego. Now, what we can confirm to you

00:16:22.060 is that Rob actually put that secondary home in Coronado up for sale on August 24th, 2025 of this year.

00:16:31.360 He's listed his home up for sale. So suffice it to say that the fantastic, heroic, sensational

00:16:38.660 McCoy's were pretty busy this summer, and I don't like it at all. I just don't like it.

00:16:45.020 The vibes for me are not good. Now, we can take a look at our timeline here with these new moves

00:16:51.740 added into it. We're going to start looking at July 11th because that's when I think things reached

00:16:57.800 some sort of a pinnacle. That's the infamous speech that Tucker Carlson gave where he calls out

00:17:03.920 Bill Ackman. He starts talking about Israel, all this stuff, and things start moving, okay?

00:17:10.120 Now, you can see that's July 11th, and he says that people who serve in foreign armies should be

00:17:16.360 stripped of their citizenship. He muses about where Bill Ackman's wealth comes from. July 18th

00:17:23.560 is our next date on our timeline. And this came from, this is a great find from Sam Parker.

00:17:29.700 That is when Turning Point USA receives a request from UVU for Charlie to hold an event at Utah Valley.

00:17:38.860 Not only do they instantly accept this request, but they also make it his first stop,

00:17:44.360 which is incredible. We can listen to a news anchor, I think this is from Fox News,

00:17:49.560 Salt Lake City. Describe exactly when that request went out, as we're telling you on July 18th.

00:17:55.620 Take a listen.

00:17:57.300 Utah Valley University has provided the document that created the rally at which conservative

00:18:02.220 activist Charlie Kirk was shot to death, but it is not providing the security plan for that day.

00:18:08.400 I'm Fox 13 investigative reporter Nate Carlisle. We've been asking UVU for records related to the

00:18:14.200 September 10th Kirk rally. After about six weeks, this is the first record provided. It's the application

00:18:21.040 submitted mid-July by the UVU chapter of Kirk's Turning Point USA. The applicants answer standard

00:18:28.240 questions about time, place, and a description of the event. However, we noticed there is one question

00:18:33.860 not asked on the form whether organizers need any police protection. That's a standard inquiry at,

00:18:40.240 for example, University of Utah events. Speaking of police, UVU has denied Fox 13 News' request for a

00:18:47.980 copy of the Kirk rally security plan. The university is citing the provision in state records laws,

00:18:54.680 keeping confidential, quote, security measures, end quote. The campus also has expressed concern that

00:19:01.120 the records could interfere in any investigation and someone's right to a fair trial. Tyler Robinson

00:19:07.580 is charged with Kirk's murder. Fox 13 plans an appeal of the denial, and we are still pursuing

00:19:14.120 a variety of records related to the Kirk shooting. Well, Fox 13 News, if I can be of any assistance,

00:19:21.920 you just reach out to me because I've done a lot of these events and everything happening here is

00:19:26.180 unusual, okay, for them to honor a request. I mean, they get every university across all 50 states

00:19:33.780 trying to get Charlie and I to speak, okay? A request going in that late, being honored and

00:19:41.100 becoming stop number one within a couple of weeks, I'm going to say that's never happened. I'm going

00:19:46.020 to dig through my inbox, okay? I'm going to dig through my inbox. I'm going to see what the normal

00:19:49.560 security protocols are because as everybody has noticed, there was no ambulance on standby.

00:19:54.260 And that's against Utah law. And so it's interesting that they don't want to release

00:20:00.780 the security plan because I'm pretty sure this was an extraordinary first-time thing where they

00:20:06.040 didn't have a security plan. And I had received a tip, and I do want to check this out, by the way,

00:20:10.540 that they also had initially slated for this event to be inside, but it was moved. Again,

00:20:15.280 I have to look into that. I'm not confirming that. But if that's true as well, things are about to get

00:20:19.140 very interesting. And guess what, guys? There's more. And this part is crazy. I guess it's not

00:20:25.420 really crazy. I think I saw like Milo Yiannopoulos tweeted, I think now I think Israel did it. And 0.97

00:20:30.720 that's because he was tweeting about the bizarre lie of them saying Erica Kirk was accepting this award

00:20:35.420 and they completely fictionalized it. They've just been lying nonstop quickly, right? Right out the

00:20:41.300 gate, Bibi Netanyahu doing propaganda rounds, denying that he had anything to do with the

00:20:48.680 assassination of Charlie Kirk. Perfectly normal thing to do, right? Perfectly normal. For some

00:20:53.460 reason, I didn't feel compelled to do that. I didn't feel like I had to get on camera and make a

00:20:57.660 statement that I didn't kill Charlie Kirk. But Bibi Netanyahu felt that he needed to do that.

00:21:02.600 And all of his sickle fans in America echoed that statement. And nobody had accused them. 0.87

00:21:07.920 A thief runneth when no one pursueth, right? Well, here's some explosive news for you that I can now,

00:21:13.700 beyond a shadow of a doubt, confirm. Putting my name on this. Not only can I

00:21:18.200 confirm this, but I can publicly challenge the very Zionist occupied Trump administration who is aware 0.81

00:21:26.120 of this to deny it, to come out and say, no, that's not true. Okay. And if Kash Patel is done crying

00:21:32.400 about the mean tweets on the internet regarding his sensational singing girlfriend, he can also

00:21:37.580 certainly make the time of day to deny what I am saying if it is untrue, right? Because this is

00:21:44.640 pretty relevant. Now, I should say that some people had actually reported this earlier. Like Mel,

00:21:50.680 I've been telling you to follow her, Village Crazy Lady over on X. She was actually very early with 1.00

00:21:55.280 this reporting and I had heard rumors and rumblings, but I wanted to make sure that I had verifiable

00:22:00.220 proof, enough proof that I would go out on a limb as I'm doing right now and asserting that it is

00:22:03.820 authentic and it is real. Ladies and gentlemen, there were, for whatever reason, 12 Israeli cell phones

00:22:12.160 on the ground at Utah Valley University the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated. This has completely

00:22:19.720 spooked the people that are very high up in government. Now, to be clear, I don't mean that

00:22:25.960 there were 12 VPNs that were switched and routed through Israel on that day. I mean that there were

00:22:32.940 12 personal cell phone accounts that were opened in Israel, okay? Like you go into Verizon in Tennessee

00:22:42.280 or in Connecticut and you open your phone. I am saying that they opened their phones in Israel,

00:22:48.180 those accounts in Israel, and they were on the ground on September 10th at Utah Valley University

00:22:54.660 when Charlie was shot. Now, the NSA knows this. Kash Patel knows this. People in the current

00:23:00.760 administration know this, and they are desperate for some reason to stop that information from being

00:23:06.780 released to the public. Why? Because they're the most transparent administration ever? Is that why?

00:23:13.600 Is this like Jeffrey Epstein transparency that we're getting? Because that's what it feels like.

00:23:17.120 It always seems that on the topic of this one nation that's only the size of New Jersey and has done

00:23:22.420 nothing wrong ever and was truly the greatest friend to Charlie right up until the very end, never put any

00:23:28.380 pressure on him. Suddenly, everybody abandons their values. True friends of Charlie Kirk, right?

00:23:35.760 Standing on that stage, giving him a speech, hiding this. Now, what would be the reason that they wanted

00:23:39.940 to keep that information under wraps, and why does it have people at the very top spooked? If there's

00:23:45.720 nothing to hide, then there's nothing to hide, okay? If there's nothing to hide, then there's nothing to

00:23:53.440 hide. Now, let's play devil's advocate, and to be clear, we are now advocating for the devil when we

00:24:00.880 do this. Maybe the cell phones belonged to some exchange students. It's possible. Maybe 12 Israelis 0.88

00:24:10.280 were touring UVU on that day because, I don't know, Utah Valley University is a place where they maybe

00:24:17.760 wanted to attend in the future. Maybe 12 American students had Israeli-based cell phones because they had 0.60

00:24:24.920 just come back from a summer abroad program, and they wanted to keep their Israeli cell phones running

00:24:32.400 when they got back home to Utah. I don't know, but I'd like to know. In fact, we need to know the answer to

00:24:40.840 this question. Why are they hiding misinformation, and why and who did those 12 Israeli cell phones

00:24:48.120 belong to, okay? I don't like secrets. I don't like secrets, especially when they pertain to the public

00:24:57.020 execution of my friend Charlie Kirk. We'll take a break, and we'll come right back. All right, you guys,

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00:27:30.280 Candace at checkout. So we've got planes from Egypt, cell phones from Israel, and we are getting the

00:27:39.120 runaround from the Trump administration, the runaround from his friends, the people that want

00:27:44.240 to just stop asking questions and move on. What does this feel like to you? What does this feel

00:27:49.380 like to you? Sometimes I wish I was born yesterday, right? It would be so easy to just accept him,

00:27:54.320 like, oh, yeah, I totally, there just was a lone shooter who, you know, had never really been

00:28:01.260 hunted, but he got really lucky, and he just fired the shot, and he got, he'd never been to the campus,

00:28:05.120 but he somehow knew how to scale all the buildings, running around like Spider-Man. I wish I was born

00:28:11.260 yesterday so I could just accept that. I do. Unfortunately, I wasn't born yesterday. I was

00:28:15.760 actually born 36 years ago, and everyone is full of it. I am looking at a situation where Charlie was

00:28:24.300 betrayed and is actively being betrayed every day by the very people that he helped to elect,

00:28:28.860 the people that are in office. They are betraying him by trying to feed us this nonsense, okay?

00:28:35.300 They are feeding us, they're selling us crap and trying to tell us it's food, right? Like, 0.99

00:28:40.100 this is nourishing or something. I just won't tolerate it, okay? And it is, I think, one of the

00:28:47.220 craziest things happening right now that these people are now telling us to shift gears and that

00:28:55.360 it's our duty, right? It's our duty to make sure more of them get elected. Now, there are a lot of

00:29:02.040 people running around right now. There are races, important races, they tell us, going on in the

00:29:06.600 country, consequential races that are happening, and people online are being somewhat accusatory,

00:29:11.900 upset that Republicans are infighting, if that's what you're calling this. I'm not fighting with

00:29:17.420 you, okay? I'm going to see this thing all the way through. And that we're instead focused on using

00:29:21.660 our platforms to fight one another rather than to encourage people to go vote so that Republicans

00:29:28.240 can stay in power across various cities. You know, as just one example, of course, people

00:29:34.140 really cannot stop speaking about the Momdani versus the Cuomo mayoral race in New York. Now,

00:29:40.860 Cuomo's already one of the most corrupt families in New York. And now they're like, no, switch gears

00:29:47.280 because Momdani is going to be worse. And it's your job as a good little Republican, okay, to go out

00:29:53.000 there and to make sure that Momdani doesn't win. And to those very many people, I would like to say,

00:29:59.420 no, I'm good, actually. I'm just not interested. I'm interested in nothing until you start telling

00:30:07.420 the truth about what happened in Charlie Kirk. Until you acknowledge that a 30-06 did not go

00:30:12.640 through his neck, did not get stopped, rather, by his neck. Until you acknowledge that that story

00:30:18.540 that you tried to tell us is complete BS, something that could take down a moose, somehow did not take

00:30:23.280 down Charlie Kirk. Are you kidding me? Are you absolutely kidding me? I'm not interested in

00:30:28.920 your races around the country. I'm not voting until this is resolved, okay? This is toxic. You 1.00

00:30:35.740 are toxic. And it is unbelievably abusive to suggest that I have to now reinvest and work for the exact 0.97

00:30:43.700 same party that told me that if I voted for them and got the word out for them and I did do all those

00:30:49.820 things, that things would be different. Corruption is going to stop. We're going to be the most

00:30:54.020 transparent thing in administration that you've ever seen. Except on those Epstein files. Yeah, I know

00:31:00.120 he was, like, abusing children. But what Epstein files were we even talking about? No. No, thank you. No.

00:31:10.460 Nope. Goodbye. Not doing it anymore. You're left versus right. Don't care anymore. There is power

00:31:18.020 and there is the rest of us. There is power and there is the rest of us. And you are not going to

00:31:24.880 convince me that any of this stuff is consequential after I just watched Charlie Kirk catch a bullet in

00:31:29.460 his throat and watching all of you lie about it, okay? There's actually this vintage clip from TRL,

00:31:36.420 remember Total Request Live with Carson Daly, that perfectly embodies me and how I am feeling in

00:31:44.320 this moment. So let's watch that vintage clip together. Hi, my name is Miinda and I live in

00:31:51.500 Florida. Being a young Black female and also a teen mother, what do you guys do to get back,

00:32:00.600 give back to the community? Also directed mostly towards ODB. I know Praz and the Fugees do things 1.00

00:32:07.780 for the community, but what do you, what is going to be your thing for the community? Nothing.

00:32:23.960 Don't get me wrong now. Don't get me wrong. I send you love.

00:32:29.960 To the Republicans, I send you love, okay? Don't get me wrong. I send you love. But what I will be

00:32:35.820 doing for the broader community until you start telling the truth is nothing. Nothing. So don't

00:32:41.940 even, don't at me. I just don't care at all. Not even a little bit. Anyway, two of the like three

00:32:49.580 people that I still like that are within the realm of politics got together. Tucker Carlson joined Dave

00:32:55.240 Smith. I kind of want to qualify Tucker Carlson. I feel like I want to say the stupendous Tucker

00:33:00.720 Carlson joined Dave Smith on his show to respond to all of this Zionist backlash that he was receiving

00:33:08.260 for having a conversation with Nick Fuentes. And foremost, Tucker explains why he had the

00:33:13.920 conversation with Nick Fuentes. Take a listen. I didn't make Nick Fuentes, hardly. I just want to

00:33:19.380 know what this is about. And I wanted to make the point that I often make and now seems even more

00:33:25.560 important than it ever has, which is that virtue and sin are not transmitted genetically. There is

00:33:34.500 no such thing as blood guilt. Therefore, collective punishment is always immoral. God created each

00:33:40.500 person individually. He did not create communities at once. He created people. And all of us will die

00:33:45.640 and in the end face God alone. So it's about the person. And people can be changed by God, by the way.

00:33:51.820 And the New Testament is that story of people who were, in the case of the whole hero of the New

00:33:56.260 Testament, the human hero was a guy called Paul, who was murdering Christians as a Pharisee and then 0.77

00:34:01.900 becomes the greatest proselytizer in the history of Christianity and my personal hero. So like,

00:34:05.880 don't tell me that people can't be changed because of their blood. Now, that is the basis. That position

00:34:13.000 is the basis of Western civilization. We often talk about Western civilization and we're all defending

00:34:17.260 Western civilization. Israel's defending Western civilization. Israel does not have a Western 0.98

00:34:21.060 position on this question. The Israeli position, not of all Israelis, by the way, and certainly not

00:34:27.020 of all Jews, but I'm saying of the Israeli government and of a couple of its ministers,

00:34:30.920 which they say this out loud all the time, is that everybody who's related to a terrorist shares in

00:34:36.160 his guilt. That's collective punishment. It is blood guilt and it's antithetical to Christianity 0.80

00:34:40.620 and to the West. And so for me, and by the way, Israel's not the only country that does this. 0.79

00:34:45.500 Most countries do this. Literally most countries do this. All of Asia, India. This is like an intuitive,

00:34:51.220 response that people have. Okay. So that I actually introduced that wrong. That's Tucker,

00:34:56.100 just giving the broader theological, delivering the broader theological point, which is important

00:34:59.800 that people have the capacity to change. And actually we're kind of in this weird psychosis

00:35:06.320 as a society. And I would say that this is kind of one of the things they're trying to deliver to us

00:35:10.240 is that some people are just deplorable. Like everything about them is just so deplorable and we have to

00:35:15.640 throw them away. And that's what creates these sort of movements where people are just tired of it.

00:35:19.420 They're just tired of this. This is not the way that Christians think actually. We very much don't 1.00

00:35:24.020 live in a Christian society because we live in a Christian Zionist society and Christian Zionism 0.87

00:35:28.940 is a, it's a paradox. Okay. It's, there's no such thing as Christian Zionism because Zionism is all 0.99

00:35:35.320 about identity, right? It's all about identity because I am a Jew. I therefore have a right to this land

00:35:42.660 because they are Jews. And I am a Christian. I recognize that I'm going to get into heaven

00:35:46.320 if I just worship how Bibi Netanyahu, even when he kills tens of thousands of kids,

00:35:51.460 that is a political ideology. It is not a religion and it is dangerous and it's wrong. And it is,

00:35:57.500 it is backwards. And it is of course antithetical to the Bible. Now, Tucker then explains specifically

00:36:03.480 why he chose to have a conversation with Nick Fuentes. Take a listen.

00:36:08.420 You should be forgiving always. Things are being said right now that almost seem like they can't

00:36:14.160 be forgiven. They're so, they're, they're exhortations to violence. Clearly they are,

00:36:18.120 et cetera, et cetera. Slander of a kind that's so severe. Like, how do you get past that? 1.00

00:36:23.500 I think we should force ourselves. I interviewed Nick Fuentes to attack my wife and my son and my dad,

00:36:29.320 can't attack my dad. And I interviewed him anyway. I choked it back and I thought to myself,

00:36:33.120 I'm just, I want to hear this and I'm just going to make, we, I try to make myself do that.

00:36:38.140 So if tomorrow John Puthart is like, or whomever I'm mad at, right? People I used to know are calling

00:36:44.120 me a Nazi is like, you know what? I don't, I don't think he's actually a Nazi. Like let's have a real

00:36:47.420 conversation. Let's do the best for America. They should all be accepted. I don't think we should

00:36:52.800 have permanent enemies who are American citizens. I don't. Cause I think the whole idea of it is we're

00:36:58.860 united by citizenship, our common Americanness. Everybody's welcome. Even if we hated each

00:37:03.820 other 20 minutes ago and Glenn Greenwald, I mean, I hated Glenn Greenwald. Now I think he was one of

00:37:07.920 my favorite people in the world, not just personally, but personally like forgiveness

00:37:11.780 is essential. People change, allow for that. Don't draw permanent lines in the sand where it's like,

00:37:19.600 I hate you and I will hate your son too. Like that's non-Western thinking. We don't allow that. 0.88

00:37:25.160 I wanted to really consider, you listen to Tucker's perspectives and what's guiding his

00:37:30.820 perspectives and then go backwards and listen to like Mark Levin and these people that get on

00:37:36.360 their platforms and call him irredeemable. And you realize there's a different spirit moving within

00:37:40.680 these groups, right? And he is what Christianity is, right? It's about forgiveness. It's about when

00:37:47.540 you're angry, not assuming that there's some like blood oath that you need to honor, but saying,

00:37:53.520 you know what? Nick Fuentes has something crappy things about me and I'm going to speak to him.

00:37:57.100 I did the same thing. I was like the bigger person, hosted him. And he was, by the way,

00:38:00.780 still a jerk. But this idea that he shouldn't have a platform, he shouldn't be allowed to speak, 0.99

00:38:05.280 he shouldn't be allowed to think, he shouldn't be allowed to breathe. What is that from? What is

00:38:09.360 your faith? Don't, you're definitely not going to convince me that that's the first five books of

00:38:14.100 the Bible. Okay. I know what your faith is. It's Zionism. Okay. You guys behave like gangsters. 0.99

00:38:19.660 You behave like you are only loyal to one another and you'll come beat up any person figuratively.

00:38:26.340 You'll take care of any person that gets in your way. And the world can see that now.

00:38:30.820 So what's your next move to just keep doing this, to just keep behaving like this. And just know that

00:38:35.780 every act that you make, every show, everything that you make go viral with you speaking in the

00:38:40.860 way that you speak. And then people get to hear Tucker. He gets bigger and you get smaller. Okay.

00:38:45.660 He gets bigger. Our ideas get bigger. Your ideas get smaller because people can perceive the

00:38:51.580 nastiness that's guiding it and they want nothing to do with it. Okay. Now I'm going to take a brief

00:38:56.960 break because I know that you guys have a lot of comments and we also have book club tonight and

00:39:00.300 we're going to get deeper by the way, into that sort of guiding theology when we get back into the

00:39:06.780 Sigmund Freud book, because it really, really connects dots for you, right? What that guiding

00:39:12.280 philosophy comes from is actually a psychology. It is a psychology and he's the father of it,

00:39:16.900 as they call him, the father of modern psychology. And so really stepping back into time and understanding

00:39:23.000 what was happening at the turn of the 19th century across Europe, why so many speech laws have been

00:39:28.220 passed in Europe, uh, kind of Christians in the way that we're doing right now, waking up and going,

00:39:33.580 what is the guiding philosophy of these people that seem like they hate us? Like they're trying to,

00:39:38.960 to abuse, like what, what have we done wrong to be treated like this? This book is really an aha

00:39:45.100 moment and I'm excited for the book club. I'm excited and I understand why Zionist infiltrated 1.00

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00:43:03.280 for details. Please play responsibly. All right. Top comment from yesterday. I'm going to start

00:43:08.640 pulling the top comment that makes me chuckle. There were a couple of them yesterday, but this one,

00:43:12.460 regarding Kash Patel's tweets, calling his girlfriend a sensational country singer. It was

00:43:19.460 so weird. This user wrote, Cheryl writes, after hearing Kash Patel's tweet, I'm 90% sure he's the

00:43:26.940 one that wrote Tyler's message to his furry lover. Absolutely, you are correct. It's now a fact. It's

00:43:33.040 now a fact. Just kidding, but I loved that comment. All right. Comment from today's episode.

00:43:36.880 Laughing Cats Music World writes, I keep thinking about George Zinn. I know he was a habitual Salt 0.94

00:43:42.820 Lake City event disruptor, but what are the chances his reflex is to take the blame voluntarily?

00:43:48.080 Voluntarily, I guess it's possible, but wow, crazy split decision to make, right? Not even a

00:43:51.680 hesitation. I told you guys that we had a source leaked to us. He went to the hospital. He went to

00:43:56.660 Utah Valley Hospital after this event to treat some of his like mild injuries from being dragged. And he

00:44:03.140 told people that he was told to do it and he was paid to do it, but he didn't know where the payment

00:44:08.620 was coming from. So yeah, this entire thing was just an operation. Like I said, Brandon Hanson

00:44:14.440 writes, been a lifelong Israel supporter. Recently, I've come to not like Bibi, but I still love the

00:44:19.380 land where the Lord was born. A Zionist who dislikes Netanyahu. Curious how you feel about that.

00:44:24.080 Love from Maine. It at least makes me happy to hear you acknowledge that there's a demon.

00:44:30.420 I don't, it's the strangest thing to me when these people are treating Bibi Netanyahu like he is

00:44:36.740 their Christ. And that is what makes it a disgusting heresy, right? Like to misinterpret the Bible so

00:44:43.780 much that you're basically platforming and honoring what Bibi Netanyahu does, avoiding the topic, not

00:44:50.060 acknowledging that what he's doing to the Palestinians is wrong. Having love for Jerusalem, that makes

00:44:56.600 sense. Having love for, to be able to walk in Jerusalem and to see the relics, that all makes

00:45:03.120 sense to me. And I think I'm just more disgusted by people who turn a blind eye to everything that's

00:45:07.660 happened to the Palestinians. It just makes me sick. And to see him on camera acting like such a gangster 1.00

00:45:12.480 and people pretending that he's holy, where there's even a shred of documented proof that these people 0.50

00:45:19.240 are the original people from the Holy Land is crazy. There's way more proof to the contrary, which 0.98

00:45:24.480 they stopped printing, even their own textbooks, which they've stopped printing, that point to the

00:45:28.960 fact that they came from Turkey, the Turkic Ashkenaz tribe that came down, began speaking Yiddish, and

00:45:34.860 then needed a place to go after World War II. It's crazy to me. The whole thing's crazy. Again, I would

00:45:40.380 debate anybody on that topic. Definitely feeling especially fired up about it. A smoky mountain kitty

00:45:46.780 writes, always trust your gut. Our brain takes in far more information than we are aware of. I love your

00:45:51.800 show and all that you do. Thank you so much. Beck Bild writes, so glad Charlie had you. On another

00:45:57.640 topic, dinosaurs, hundreds of Bible-believing PhD scientists have evidence that dinosaurs are real,

00:46:03.140 killed during the global flood of Genesis, the Institute for Creation Research, answers in Genesis

00:46:08.120 and creation. Okay, guys, I'm sorry. Nope. Sorry. And this is going to get, I bet you, people that are

00:46:13.860 going through my book club by the end of this, you're going to see that there was a conscious movement,

00:46:17.920 as I said, at the turn of the century. Same time, they started going, oh, we found dinosaur bone

00:46:23.180 too. And then you get into like the research of, you come from an Australopithecus. And they

00:46:29.880 describe this as like, oh, suddenly science was peaking. And actually what was happening is they

00:46:36.480 wanted to make people invest in scientism. That's a C.S. Lewis perspective. He writes about that in one of

00:46:43.520 his books where they wanted to turn science into God. And as long as they say, there's an expert,

00:46:48.520 there's research experts say that people would fall into line. And that's what we see happening.

00:46:54.240 So I can't do a deep dive on the dinosaur thing right now, but the book club, we're going to go

00:46:59.020 there eventually. And I just can, I don't know, I just, I see a bigger picture, a broader picture now,

00:47:05.060 removing the Bibles from classrooms, teaching people that they're homo sapiens, 1.00

00:47:09.540 and they started walking straight, but also the monkeys are still here. It was very methodical

00:47:14.180 and yeah, broader conversation to have. I can't wait for that clip to go viral, by the way. Like

00:47:19.440 I care, but I also don't believe the moon landings happened. So you can cut that clip

00:47:23.100 because they didn't happen. That's crazy. More scientism. Anyways, Smokey, I'm sorry. Christine

00:47:28.200 writes, loyalty is rare. Christ is King. Indeed he is. Beth Mitchum writes, so we give Israel billions.

00:47:35.760 People who support Israel give AIPAC money to give our government, to give to our government to vote 0.66

00:47:42.120 the way Israel wants. So my tax money pays for Israeli ideas. We pay Congress twice. Can you say 0.92

00:47:47.720 money laundering? Yeah, that's what it feels like for sure. We give our tax dollars, they go overseas,

00:47:52.860 and then they yell at us for paying attention to what they're doing overseas and then call us

00:47:57.400 anti-Semitic. This is like the worst deal ever. And I'd like that deal to be undone. And it certainly

00:48:03.000 isn't going to be undone in this administration. That's for sure. Jennifer Kay writes, just asked

00:48:07.380 Grok if Israel and Egypt coordinate on intelligence ops. It says yes, calling their cooperation

00:48:12.220 unprecedented. Since the 1979 peace treaty, Intel chiefs have met often, share real-time data.

00:48:18.820 Honestly, few countries make more sense working together. Yeah. Country A that gets most of our

00:48:24.680 money is Israel. B is Egypt. And there is a reason for that. So it doesn't look like it's all going to 0.93

00:48:29.980 Israel. That's my perspective. Darth Phantom writes, citizens have, and I would say since the 0.58

00:48:35.020 1967 war, do you think that they would let Israel control the Sinai Peninsula? Anyways, more on that

00:48:40.040 later. Darth Phantom writes, citizens have always paid taxes to finally be able to retire. And the

00:48:45.680 thanks that we get for this is they raise the age on us to retire and we all obey like idiots. Am I 1.00

00:48:51.760 the only one angered about this? Yeah, it's all coming apart. We're realizing it's all one big scam.

00:48:56.060 It's all usury. And it is a sin and everything that's happening into our in our country, our

00:49:01.740 culture, the corrosion. I think it's because America has married to Zionism. Like I truly do 1.00

00:49:07.060 believe that. And I think a lot of people are waking up to that. We were a better country when

00:49:11.680 we were a Christian nation. We are no longer a Christian nation. We are an occupied nation with 1.00

00:49:15.980 an ideology that has produced filth in our culture. Miranda writes, hi, Candace. I'm 23. And I should be

00:49:22.460 clear a political ideology dressed up as a religion and a faith. Miranda writes, Candace, I'm 23 and

00:49:28.100 newly married. We just found out that I'm pregnant. Congratulations. I'm nervous, but I know children

00:49:32.400 are God's blessings. You have any advice for me as a young mother. Is it OK to be nervous? My advice

00:49:36.880 would be not to take advice. It is going to be the most natural job that you have. You are going to

00:49:41.100 just know what to do when you see the baby and it will make you a better person because you will be so

00:49:46.040 tapped into God's creation. You will realize that there is something more. It is one of the sins

00:49:51.880 in the culture that kind of trained us to have children later is that we don't tap into our

00:49:57.280 divine purpose and children immediately have you tap into your divine purpose. You feel more

00:50:01.880 wholesome, more confident. I became a more confident person when I had children because I suddenly

00:50:07.600 realized what matters and what doesn't matter. And that's why I fight like hell for truth because

00:50:12.600 it matters. Right. My investment is that I have children and my silence is essentially cowardice

00:50:19.240 that would guarantee that their future would be compromised, could be more compromised than our

00:50:24.880 lives are right now, right now. Lastly, Real Lightworker writes, have you looked into events

00:50:30.220 going on at UVU that day? A college student posted an FB reel of her experience. She ran into a building

00:50:36.140 where the room was filled with uniformed people and a bunch of different flags. Who were they?

00:50:41.240 That's the hall of flags that's behind Charlie's head. And I do find something suspicious was going on

00:50:46.200 there. I've never gotten clarity, but that's where notoriously the person who filmed the footage,

00:50:50.660 the only footage that we have of the person running across who they say is the shooter running across

00:50:57.800 the Losey Center. So yeah, look, we are investigating every day with more information. Tomorrow we will have

00:51:04.080 more explosive information and revelations about the Egyptian plane, which is so interesting. Speaking of

00:51:10.080 the unique relationship between Egypt and Israel, TikTok is hitting us for videos talking about the

00:51:17.480 Egyptian planes. That's very strange. Israel's moderator served in the IDF, we know, and Bibi wants 0.76

00:51:25.700 TikTok secured for Israel's future. Why do they care about Egyptian planes that were there? It's kind of

00:51:32.340 coming together. There's a picture here that's coming together. Anyways, you guys, we have to jump off

00:51:35.580 because we do have book club tonight. So I will see you guys in the Zionist infiltration on our book 1.00

00:51:40.900 club. We finally did it, guys. We went viral and they're stealing clips from behind the paywall.

00:51:46.340 If you guys would like to support our work, you know, you can go to CandiceOwens.com. You can go to

00:51:50.580 MakeHimASandwich.com to buy the book. You will really enjoy this book. It's really important, especially

00:51:56.800 for women to understand where these feminist ideals came from. And beyond that, we will see you guys tomorrow.

00:52:05.580 Bye.

Candace Owens - November 04, 2025

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