MATRIX REVELATIONS： Erika Kirk Speaks. Zionists Lie About Charlie. ｜ Candace Ep 257
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Candace and Candace discuss AIPAC, Ben Shapiro's anti-Tucker monologue, and why Tucker Carlson is not a MAGA. Plus, Kash Patel is now officially the most embarrassing human being in the United States.
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All right, you guys, happy Monday. MAGA civil war, at least that's what they are trying to
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brand it as. They say that's what's going on. But really, we all know it's more like
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never-Trumpers have now infiltrated the MAGA movement and they're trying to dictate the
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terms like we didn't notice. Randomly, Ben Shapiro apparently woke up this morning and
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chose violence. He put me in his anti-Tucker montage monologue. We'll see what he had to
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say in a little bit. And it just so happens to be exactly what every Zionist has had to say in the
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last 24 to 48 hours, almost as though it's scripted. In other news, Erica Kirk sat down with Jesse
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Waters. Now, the full interview has not yet aired, but it's already going viral. Just a preview clip
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of it. And we're going to discuss it. And lastly, Kash Patel is now officially the most embarrassing
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human being in the United States. Welcome back to Candace.
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So obviously, a major theme of this podcast is that everything truly is fake and gay. And people
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that listen to this podcast have already accepted that. The question really is just now, how fake are
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we talking? What shade of gayness are we talking? And I think we should start with the Lindsey Graham
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shade, which he threw at American voters. So what happened was he was on stage at the Republican
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Jewish Coalition. OK, he and many others, by the way, many other treasonous congressmen
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basically directed their fire and their anger toward Americans, letting us know, basically,
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not even basically, literally telling us that if you do not support Israel, a foreign nation,
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then you're not even allowed to be a Republican anymore. Take a listen to Lindsey Graham in his own
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words. I want the world to know anti-Semitism, anti-Israel rhetoric, anti-Israel thought is not
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the road to being elected as a Republican. You will lose. You can't even have an anti-Israel thought.
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So if you're thinking like, I don't know, killing tens of thousands of children is not good. Well,
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guess what? It ain't the road to the Republican Party. Really great messaging, Senator. And he
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obviously was not the only one because we know how these things go. He was joined on stage by many
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others, including the very genocidal Randy Fine. Randy Fine, just to be clear, he has been so
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disgusting in his rhetoric towards Palestinians, saying essentially that they're just not even truly
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humans, that even AIPAC had to drop him. That's that's saying a lot. If AIPAC was like, you went a
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little too far for even us. Irrespective of this, Randy decided that he, I guess, is the arbiter of
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the new cool kids club. Like, you know, we should all want to sit with them, support Israel, or you
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can't sit with us. Can't sit with me, Randy Fine and Lindsey Graham. And to show us just how hip and
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motivated and relevant they are, they sent some poor interns. It looks like they sent some poor
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interns down to FedEx or Kinko's or UPS to print out these totally organic red signs. And the signs
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read, I don't know how he's going to get over this. So, Tucker, if you need to take a couple of days
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off, we get it. But the sign said, Tucker Carlson is not MAGA. There's something about it that's so
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dorky, sick burn. Tucker Carlson is not MAGA. And it sounds so inauthentic that, you know,
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it didn't come from anybody that was originally MAGA. This is like when Homeboy, who was the guy at
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Jesse Smollett went out and he was like, they said to me, this is MAGA country. And we were
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like, nobody in MAGA says this is MAGA country. No one in MAGA would say, Tucker Carlson is not MAGA.
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It's just a strange, it's a very strange thing to say. It's very dorky. And they said it, they did
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it. And beyond that, besides printing out these little red posters, they gave those posters to
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some young men. I'm sure they're very nice young men. And they instructed them to wave the posters
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on stage while Randy Fine, of all people, spoke. Like he was the Spice Girls going back on stage.
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Woo! Tucker Carlson is not MAGA. You go, Randy Fine. And Randy Fine was getting them all fired up.
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And he said the usual thing. Tucker Carlson is basically akin to, you're going to be shocked,
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you guessed it, Adolf Hitler. So original. Take it away, Randy Fine.
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But make no mistake. Today, Tucker Carlson is the most dangerous anti-Semite in America.
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He has chosen to take on the mantle of leader of a modern-day Hitler youth, to broadcast and
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feature those who celebrate the Nazis, those who call for the extermination of Israel, to
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defend Hamas, to even criticize President Trump for stopping Iran's nuclear ambitions.
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Friends, friends, make no mistake. Tucker is not MAGA.
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It is so over for Tucker Carlson. I mean, he just, he must be shaking. I'm literally shaking
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right now. Shaking. Just shaking, listening to it. It's just over. They have declared war on Tucker
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Carlson, which they happen to do every week, obviously. And they all say the same thing,
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which shows how inorganic it is. It's like Operation Mockingpaster. And it was very clear
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that they were instructed to go after Tucker. More than anyone else, we know that Zionists cannot
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stand Tucker Carlson. And the real reason that they hate him is because he's very well-liked now by both
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sides. And he also happens to not be controlled. You can always tell who they control because they
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don't condemn them, even when they, like Randy Fine, just come right out with genocidal language
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against the Palestinians, referring to them as subhuman, laughing when he sees a dead body of a
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Palestinian. They don't care. They support it. They cover it up. But Tucker Carlson, oh no,
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he's having conversations with people that they don't like. It's that simple as to why they go after
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him. That's also why they fired him from Fox, because he was speaking out against the Ukrainian
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War. And that was not allowed. They thought that firing him would effectively ruin him. And he
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wouldn't be able to secure another big contract within the apparatus that they very much control.
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And it turns out, Tucker Carlson actually got even bigger, and he became even more well-liked.
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And they want justice for that. And the way that they are going about it right now, though,
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is especially sickening. They're now trying to roll Charlie Kirk's legacy into this. We all know,
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as I proved, that these same individuals were squeezing Charlie Kirk leading up to the end of
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his life. They wanted, again, Tucker Carlson to be gone, no longer allowed on the Turning Point USA
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stage, because Tucker is the natural heir to the populist movement. And they want him to be canceled.
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Only people that they can control are allowed to be in positions of power. So recently, Tucker
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interviewed Nick Fuentes. The reason he did that, I've heard, is because it happens to be a free
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country. And it's his platform. And he can speak to whoever the hell he wants in the world. But of
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course, with Zionists, the very same ones who were causing Charlie Kirk all of that grief in the final
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days and hours leading up to his assassination, the very same ones that Charlie thought were going to
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kill him. They've now decided to besmirch Charlie's name by asserting that Tucker interviewing Nick
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Fuentes is a betrayal to Charlie. He's no longer Charlie's friend. They've decided posthumously that
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Tucker Carlson was a bad friend to Charlie Kirk. And do you know who can actually debunk that pretty
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easily? Yours truly. I got you guys. Okay. And it's just a little bit of common sense. Before Charlie
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died, really kind of just before he died in July, I interviewed Nick Fuentes. And Charlie and I
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discussed the interview. And never once did he tell me not to speak to Nick Fuentes. Never once did he
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consider it an act of betrayal. To the contrary, I had a very long discussion with him. I also had a
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long discussion with Andrew Colvett separately, telling them both that Charlie should host Nick
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Fuentes on his show and debate him. I tried to make that happen. You guys will recall this. Andrew
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Kovac can confirm that everything that I am saying is true. Oh, it's such an act of betrayal to speak
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to Nick Fuentes. Never at any point did Charlie say don't do that because that's ridiculous. It's not
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who he was. But the truth, obviously, is never what Zionists are concerned with. They want Charlie's
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legacy by any means necessary. They want people to believe that his legacy belongs to Israel somehow.
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And the harder that they work to lie about his legacy, the more the world wakes up to the truth
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about it. They are waking up to the truth about how Charlie really felt. It's just becoming too
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obvious. Anyway, let's get to Ben Shapiro. OK, because on his show today, he took a very,
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dare I say, scripted stab at Tucker Carlson. Same talking points. Tucker Carlson has betrayed Charlie
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Kirk by hosting Nick Fuentes. And for absolutely no reason at all, I caught a stray bullet, which
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tends to happen for whatever reason. They get mad at Tucker Carlson. They attack me. They get mad at me.
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They kind of punch Megyn Kelly now. I don't know what Megyn Kelly has done wrong, but she's done
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wrong is what they say. And he obviously listened to what he has to say. This is Ben Shapiro straight
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from a teleprompter. Tucker Carlson, you see, is a coward. And here is where his relationship with
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Nick Fuentes begins, with Nick Fuentes correctly pointing out that Tucker Carlson is a coward.
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You see, Tucker Carlson a few weeks back had on Candace Owens to treat her to his usual
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ideological laundering services. That's after years of Candace Owens saying things like this.
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And it is the case that dinosaur bones, for whatever reason, are always just found by the
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paleontologist. Like, it's not like you and me walking outside. I'm like, hey, a dinosaur bone.
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And or by somebody who is related to a paleontologist. It's very strange.
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And then, but it was just convenient for Israel that JFK got shot. It was just convenient to you
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guys. Totally convenient. It was convenient for Israel, by the way, when the towers went down.
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I just want to be clear. Anything happens to me, blame the Zionists. Like 1000% blame the Zionists.
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I'm waking people up to the fact that pedophiles are in power. They are literally in power. And that
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is intentional because then they can be controlled while they are in power. And they are also
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exhibiting signs of a psychopathology pathology that lets them know that they will do harm to
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the masses and feel nothing because they were themselves. Many of them raped when they were
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children. It's not a coincidence that Justin Trudeau is gay at Obama, gay, Zelensky, gay,
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Emmanuel Macron, gay and married to a trans man who molested him when he was a child.
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I mean, fact check, all true. I got to watch that girl's show.
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Lovely. It sounds amazing. I take nothing back. But you catch the vibe here. The vibe here
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is that Tucker Carlson is criminally laundering ideas through his beyond the pale guests. And
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Ben is using the preferred strategy of out of context clips to paint a picture of my perspectives,
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which I stand by. Yeah, dinosaur bones are by and large always found by the experts. You can look
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it up yourself. And yes, if I wind up dead in mysterious circumstances, you should obviously
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assume it was orchestrated by Zionists. Duh. In lengthier clips, which you didn't show, I've asserted
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that this entire American culture, which has grown quite perverse, it's a culture of vices that we are
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suffering from today, a culture that is filled with pornography, gambling, transgenderism, radical
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feminism, modern psychology, pharmaceuticals. If you research these topics historically, you will
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recognize that they were brought to and fought by, fought for on our shores by people like Emma
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Goldman on feminism, Sigmund Freud, the father of modern psychology. The gambling empire is where the
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Adelson empire wealth comes from, as are many pharmaceuticals like the Sackler family. These
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people have their had their names on buildings in Tel Aviv, the owners of Purdue Pharma, the architects
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of the opioid epidemic, pornography. Our boy Al Goldstein took happy credit for that, right? He's the one who
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notoriously said the only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think Christ sucks. Catholicism
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sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism. Pornography becomes a way of defiling Christian culture.
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As it penetrates the very heart of the American mainstream. By the way, Al Goldstein was right,
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that actually has happened. And pornography, if you're wondering, is somehow consider how it became
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somehow considered free speech. That's because Jewish individuals in America fought for that. Samuel
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Roth, actually, that's his name, fought for that decision in court. Transgenderism, go back and try to
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figure out where that came from. Magnus Hirschfeld was the doctor and the sexologist. So these are the
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facts and the facts don't really care about your feelings. So please keep me in context. There's a
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lot people can learn from me. All that aside, I have to say that I was quite stunned that he found within
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himself, Ben, the audacity to present this attack on Tucker as a noble defense of Charlie.
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There's no question that Tucker has become the most virulent super spreader of vile ideas in America.
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And the rest of us who oppose those vile ideas have every right to call him that.
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There is one other element here that's even darker if possible. Tucker Carlson preys on the friendship
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he proclaims with others. And then he knifes them directly between the shoulder blades when convenient
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for him. Tucker Carlson is, in short, a terrible friend. Tucker Carlson was supposedly Charlie Kirk's
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friend. Charlie believed that Nick Fuentes was vermin. That's a direct quote. He believed that
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because Nick Fuentes dedicated his life to destroying Charlie Kirk and TPUSA from the inside.
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So first and foremost, the idea that in order for you to show that you're a good friend of somebody,
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you have to agree not to host people on your platform from conversations is is just so anti-Charlie.
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It's unbelievable. It's just it is disrespectful really to his legacy. And it is simply a fact,
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which I feel comfortable sharing now, that Charlie and Ben Shapiro did not get along
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because Charlie found out that Ben was operating behind the scenes to stop him and sort of hinder
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the growth of Turning Point USA in our early days. Right. When things when we were kind of coming up
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together, me and Charlie as partners getting out there. And I have only about 80 to 150 text messages
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from Charlie to that effect. This is not a debate, by the way. This is a fact. So challenge me to share
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the messages. I will gladly. Now, when Charlie tried to figure out where the sudden hostility was coming
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from, because he at first admired Ben like I admired Ben. Actually, Charlie was the one that told me
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you should watch Ben debate videos so you can strengthen your debate skills. The next thing we knew,
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we were hearing that he was trying to block us and they had a conversation. Ben told Charlie again,
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this is according to my messages with Charlie, that Ben was in part upset because I made a joke
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about him, a literal lighthearted joke when I appeared on Joe Rogan back in 2018.
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Um, do we have that clip, Skylar? We can roll that. Like, I can't take anything seriously anymore.
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So, well, there's things to be taken seriously, but celebrities probably aren't on that list.
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Yeah. So Ben Shapiro's right. Yeah. No, well, he's right about this, you know, but he was like
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trying to correlate like what Kim did, like with Alice Marie Johnson with like that. And I'm like,
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come on, man, that's like totally different. And just in general, like sometimes he just gets a
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little like hall monitor for me. Like, you know, like it's just like, you know,
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he can't help himself. I know. He's a funny guy. He's very snarky. I like him a lot.
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I like him too. That's the thing. It's like, we actually really get along, but like the hall
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monitor, like I know these types in school. Like I was in their classes, you know, like they're just
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like, you're like late to school. Like the last person you want to see is like the hall monitor,
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like, you know, like the idea that she would be late, right? Like he's writing you a pink slip.
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It's like, Ben, just give me the pink slip, dude. Like, just give it to me, Ben. All right. Like,
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right. Like, you know, this is a gateway to Saturday school. Like, it's just like a good
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impression of him. Lighthearted joke, but specifically Ben said to Charlie that he was
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upset about that and that he, I, Candace was going to Milo my career if Charlie didn't get away from
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me. Now, obviously the story goes, Charlie stuck with me despite Ben's urging. We kept climbing.
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We reached a point where as a team, Charlie and I were suddenly undeniable. Some producer in June of
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2018 then reached out to us to book us on Ben's show. And honestly, I'm so glad they did this
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because in retrospect, it's actually one of my favorite Charlie memories because it just makes
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me smile to reflect on because Charlie, he was never mean spirited. He always was just funny.
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He always chose humor, lighthearted humor to get over any situation. He was never a person that
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wheeled and dealed behind the scenes to prevent other people from becoming successful. It just wasn't
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in him, right? He wasn't vengeful. Vengeance is actually kind of the vice that I've had to work
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on a lot, but Charlie's perspective was just laugh and move on. Anyway, the story goes,
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we get the invite to be on Ben Shapiro's show and I'm like, no, F that. He was so awful to us. He said
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this about me Miloing my career. We should not do his show. Why would we do his show? And Charlie's
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like, no, it's great. Let's do it because we won. Okay. We won, Candace. And I'm like, okay,
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fine. We get to the location. I think it was in Sherman Oaks, California at that time. And Charlie
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says to me, we're in the green room. Hey, when we take a photo with him, I'm going to puff my chest
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out and stand extra tall. So we never forget this moment of us having triumphed over Ben Shapiro.
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And he actually does it. And it was completely hilarious. And this is actually the photo from
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that. Charlie did that totally on purpose. That was such a Charlie Kirk thing to do. And it became
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like our perfect inside joke. Every time we felt like he was kind of saying little things about us
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and that was Charlie, that was just the spirit of Charlie. And we, he moved on from it. He was
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always cordial beyond that. He never felt any nastiness. The point of me sharing this though,
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is to make it very clear that Charlie loved Tucker. I can go through all my messages, all my messages
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with Charlie and he loved Tucker. Not for a single second did he not admire and respect and greatly
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appreciate Tucker. And he fought for Tucker to be on the turning point stage until his dying day.
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Literally. Charlie was not in love with Ben Shapiro. He didn't hate Ben Shapiro. He just, I would say,
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experienced Ben Shapiro. We all get the Ben Shapiro experience at some point. Despite this,
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he always, as I said, kept it cordial because that's who he was as a person. But what I will not allow is
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this absolute inversion of reality where Ben Shapiro becomes any sort of voice on who is and who is
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not betraying their friendship with Charlie. I will not allow it. Like I said, everybody has a vice.
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And when I reflect on Charlie's, it is probably that he associated success and growth with money.
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And I believe that that is probably the conduit for the snakes that I got, that got into his company,
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got into the donor base, whatever it is. Me, I don't suffer from that vice. I don't care about money.
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I would gladly, as you have seen me do, burn it all to the ground to get out one modicum of truth.
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And if you'd like to hear something else that happens to be true,
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in the immediate aftermath of Charlie's death, people that were extremely close to Charlie,
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including donors, were very touched by a monologue that Matt Walsh did over on The Daily Wire.
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I didn't see it. I was too aggrieved to watch anything. But apparently,
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Matt Walsh did an amazing monologue. So the team reached out to host Matt Walsh, to ask Matt Walsh,
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rather, to host Charlie Kirk's show because they wanted to keep it going. And they were told that
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that was not allowed to happen unless Ben Shapiro was also invited. And in the true spirit of Charlie
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Kirk, Turning Point cordially accepted those posthumous terms. Anyways, those are the facts.
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Turning my attention to another matter, Israel is rather obsessed with this already failed
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operation to stage a hostile takeover of the legacy of Charlie Kirk, so obsessed that the
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Jerusalem Post completely fictionalized, or rather published a completely deranged lie
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about Erica Kirk. Here is the statement that was issued by the Israeli War Room account over on
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Twitter, and they were citing the actual reporting from the Jerusalem Post, which was written by
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journalist Michael Starr. They published this. Charlie Kirk, the founder of TPUSA, will be
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posthumously honored at Israel's 2025 Christian Media Summit in recognition of his courageous stand
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for truth and his steadfast support of Israel. Michael Starr reports, Mrs. Erica Kirk will accept
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the award on her husband's behalf, a moving tribute to a man who inspired millions to stand with Israel
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when it mattered most. The Pillars of Jerusalem Award, inspired by the verse teaching that the
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world stands upon justice, truth, and peace, will also be presented by Douglas Murray,
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Yale Eckstein, and Dr. Jurgen Bueller. So obviously the internet was like, this is crazy if this is true.
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And internet, including me, I was like, this is actually insane if this is true. Steadfast support of
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Israel. This is just a lie. And you know how I feel about lies. Fortunately, Andrew Colbert,
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the spokesperson for Turning Point USA, instantly came out and slapped down the rumor. Andrew wrote
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this. This is the first we're hearing of this. We've reached out to the reporter at the Jerusalem
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Post for a correction. How do you just say Erica Kirk is going to accept this award on behalf of her
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husband because of his steadfast support for Israel? That's not like a casual error, is it? Well,
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the journalist replied, and here is what he had to say. Michael Starr said this on X. He said,
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the Israeli government press office wavered on claims that Erica Kirk would be accepting by video
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call a posthumous award on behalf of Charlie Kirk after Turning Point USA said that it was not aware
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of the award and its CEO was not scheduled to participate. And he is calling that wavering.
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I'm calling that Israel's got an Israel. They just lie. They tell audacious lies. And when they get
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caught, they then gaslight and pretend that they didn't get caught with their hands in the cookie
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jar. Right. And it's just getting ridiculous. It is so ridiculous to watch them continue to lie
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about where Charlie Kirk was at in his mind at the end of his life. You're not getting away with it.
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The people don't believe you. It doesn't matter how many, how much money you spend, how many talking
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heads you send out to pretend that he didn't waver in his support. He did. He did. We've been reading
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Charlie in his own words. Okay. Like you can't undo this. It's lost. Yes. He supported Israel
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throughout his entire career. And then he felt the agent Smith's coming in, pressing him and pushing
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him ironically over Tucker. And it really shows that you have no shame to do it again, to do it
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again posthumously, to say Tucker must never speak on a turning point stage. Tucker must be canceled
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people that are paying in super chats asking me to address Erica Kirk, and I guess my question back
00:27:18.180
would be, what is there for me to address? She hasn't sat down for a long interview. All we have
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seen from Erica has been the speech at the memorial event for Charlie Kirk. I see the innuendo that is
00:27:31.880
online. I am interested in investigating who killed Charlie Kirk, and the people that I have been
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reserving my ire for, my smoke for, my investigation for are the people that are blatantly lying, okay?
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People that are just lying about Charlie Kirk. That was my reason for going after Alex Clark. She
00:27:50.560
lied about the Catholic thing. That was my reason for going after Andrew Colvett, Mikey McCoy. Anybody
00:27:56.360
that's told a lie, Rob McCoy, blood all over him, you got my attention. What lie has Erica told that
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I'm supposed to be focused on, okay? Like, has she said something about, did she come out and say,
00:28:07.460
Charlie never had an issue with Israel in the end? He loved Israel to his dying breath. She hasn't done
00:28:13.400
that. She simply hasn't done that. What we have around the corner is a big interview that's going to be
00:28:18.900
dropping this week. Erica Kirk sat down with Jesse Waters, and I can tell you, Charlie loved Jesse
00:28:23.580
Waters. Jesse Waters gave us the most playtime on Fox News back in the beginning. That was the big
00:28:30.080
show that we got to book, and so it's a good fit. It's a fitting program for her to go on to.
00:28:35.580
If she was sitting down with, like, Bibi Netanyahu's entourage, I might have something to say,
00:28:41.620
but everything that she has done has been, she's been having conversations with people who were
00:28:45.940
actually friends with Charlie. Erica is also, I think, slated to join Megyn Kelly on tour. Don't quote me,
00:28:51.780
but I'm pretty sure I saw that being teased. Charlie opened up to Megyn in the end. Megyn
00:28:56.920
stood 10 toes down on telling the truth, which is why I deeply respect her for doing this,
00:29:01.820
about the pressure that Charlie was under, and it was not easy for Megyn to do that, okay? She is still
00:29:06.400
catching heat for the fact that she did that. So I feel like Erica is kind of sending a message here
00:29:13.120
that she's not standing against the people that are telling the truth.
00:29:18.220
I said early on, if Erica asks me to be quiet, I will be quiet. She didn't ask me to be quiet. So
00:29:25.040
I don't know what I'm supposed to do. A show on whether I like her hair, her outfits, that doesn't
00:29:31.660
feel right. And also keep in mind, that is the mother of Charlie Kirk's children. I had a real
00:29:38.400
relationship with Charlie Kirk, a real friendship with Charlie Kirk, and what is left of him in this
00:29:43.120
world are his two small children. So to just take a baseless attack, if I catch her in a lie,
00:29:48.400
it's a little different, but to just take an attack on her does not feel appropriate to me. I haven't
00:29:53.680
seen any reason to do that. So I'm looking forward to this sit down with Jesse Waters. I think we're
00:29:59.880
going to get a lot more from Erica, and we're going to see where her mindset is. Currently, there is
00:30:05.220
one clip that is going around, and I have some unsolicited advice for Erica, and I appreciate the
00:30:11.640
sentiment of what she's saying here. Let's take a listen. The defense wants to ban cameras in the
00:30:17.660
courtroom. How do you feel about that? There were cameras all over my husband when he was murdered.
00:30:25.380
There have been cameras all over my friends and family mourning. There have been cameras all over me
00:30:31.680
analyzing my every move, analyzing my every smile, my every tear. We deserve to have cameras in there.
00:30:41.640
Why not be transparent? There's nothing to hide. I know there's not because I've seen
00:30:48.980
what the case is built on. Let everyone see what true evil is. This is something that could impact
00:30:57.380
a generation and generations to come. So I agree with the sentiment, and I'm glad that she has pointed
00:31:03.840
out how ridiculous it is to not want cameras into the courtroom, how ridiculous it is to allow him to
00:31:09.160
appear virtually, not even on camera for some pre-hearing matters. None of this makes any sense
00:31:16.080
to the public. And what I did say early on, I don't remember which episode it was, was I would not have
00:31:23.260
wanted Erica to, it would not be my, it would not have been my advice for Erica in a stage of grieving
00:31:29.200
to go from being the widow to being the CEO and the chairman of the company. If I was running the company,
00:31:34.580
I would have said, let's put in place an interim CEO, right? Someone below, Justin Strife, I think
00:31:39.820
was the COO. I would have put in an interim CEO and allowed people to figure things out
00:31:45.560
because it is a true statement that there's, there's two things happening here. There are,
00:31:51.800
there's a widow and then there is the chairman and the CEO. And that person, no matter what,
00:31:56.300
is going to have to catch heat for any decisions the business is making. That's just the reality of the
00:32:01.860
way the world works. When you're a CEO and you're a boss, if a mistake is made, doesn't matter whether
00:32:06.280
you did it, whether you said it, whether you tweeted it, it's going to come down on you. And she has
00:32:10.440
assumed that role, okay? So criticisms pertaining to anything at Turning Point USA that are being
00:32:15.200
directed at Erica are fair. Obviously, they are fair if they are directed about Turning Point USA
00:32:20.420
and their actions. The second thing that I would say, and again, this is unsolicited advice, so she's free
00:32:25.520
to throw it out. But in the, the entire issue in the energy right now is that people, irrespective
00:32:32.820
of what's happening on paper, don't believe the story. They don't believe the story. And you are,
00:32:39.180
and of course, this is only a snippet of the interview, so I'm sure more will be said here,
00:32:43.300
but I'm getting that you have seen the case. You think it's a solid case. She thinks it's a solid
00:32:48.260
case at least. And they're saying, show everybody what you have so they can see true evil. Within her
00:32:53.140
capacity of chairman and CEO of Turning Point USA, they could be more transparent about what
00:32:58.960
happened that day. People don't like the stuff that they've seen about Mikey McCoy. They don't
00:33:02.700
like what they've seen about Rob McCoy. They don't like the history of Rob and Mikey McCoy and their
00:33:07.320
involvement here. They don't like the video of Terrell. They don't believe what time text messages were
00:33:13.520
sent or when the phone calls took place. You know, Rob McCoy is lying. In the areas that you can
00:33:19.200
control the transparency, I think doing that would be beneficial to Turning Point USA because I don't
00:33:24.520
think, I don't think Turning Point USA is going to survive if they continue down this path of,
00:33:34.580
you know, Tyler Boyer late night tweeting at donors as he did over the weekend. I think he
00:33:40.000
directed his fire at like John Mappin and Arena Mappin called John Mappin a loser. I don't think that
00:33:46.560
that's the correct messaging to come out of Turning Point USA. And there is something that my husband
00:33:51.820
always says to me, and I don't know if he got it from somebody else. He probably did. But the expression
00:33:56.140
is the market is always right. The market's always right. He says it's about like trading and things
00:34:00.540
of that nature, meaning irrespective of what your opinion is or what you think, you know,
00:34:05.880
the market is the market. So maybe the top execs at Cracker Barrel thought it was brilliant to
00:34:13.800
change the marketing and they brought in the highest paid advertisers to do that. And they
00:34:18.680
thought it was sleek and it was a mate. The people revolted and they said, we don't, we don't like
00:34:23.020
this. We don't trust it. Put that old man back up there. We want to see the Cracker and the barrel
00:34:27.120
or we're out. And guess what? The market was right. That's kind of the point of the expression. The
00:34:31.280
market is always right. And the market right now is saying we don't believe a single thing that
00:34:35.120
happened that day. We do not trust the donors at Turning Point USA. We've got no messaging about
00:34:40.060
whether those donors were removed. We want Turning Point to hit hard, the people that are lying. Why
00:34:45.800
are we getting this dance around the Catholic topic, which again, did not come from Erica. Okay.
00:34:51.040
Did not come from Erica. And I would imagine there are a lot of people that are speaking in your ear.
00:34:55.980
That's what it means to become, to wake up one day and be the chairman and CEO of a major company.
00:35:00.500
But people are going to need clarity on these matters because it doesn't feel like those snakes are out
00:35:07.340
of the garden. That's what it doesn't feel like, I would say. And so, yeah, I would say in every
00:35:12.620
aspect that you can be transparent, which doesn't involve the feds, I would do that.
00:35:18.500
I look forward to obviously watching the interview that is going to premiere in two
00:35:21.680
days on Fox News with Jesse Waters. I will certainly be watching. Now, speaking of a lack of transparency,
00:35:30.560
I am everyone right now when I say that Kash Patel is the most embarrassing human in the United States.
00:35:34.960
Embarrassing for two reasons. One, Charlie Kirk was a big supporter of Kash Patel, had him on his show,
00:35:40.300
really pushed for him to get the role that he is in, director of the FBI. And he has just been
00:35:45.760
terrible in this case. He just has been objectively. Okay. Everything that we have seen coming out of
00:35:51.120
this case makes entirely no sense from the impassioned messages written by 20-year-old gay men,
00:35:57.860
which don't exactly sound Gen Z, to this kind of ridiculous narrative that we can't see anything.
00:36:06.860
We can't watch him drop down. There's cameras everywhere, but you can't show us anything.
00:36:10.820
All of the holes that are still in this story. And I didn't think he could make matters worse
00:36:16.740
than over the weekend. Really, guys, we are just not a serious nation. That's what I want you to know.
00:36:22.460
After this tweet, I realized we are not a serious nation and the empire is in its decline.
00:36:26.100
I actually think I want to be Russian right now. After what Kash Patel tweeted, he Kash Patel made
00:36:30.820
me want to be Russian like tomorrow. I'm going to go live with Putin because at least he's like a
00:36:35.880
serious person. Right. And Kash Patel is no longer serious. So the backstory is Kash Patel. He had a
00:36:41.780
marriage breakup. He starts dating this cute little thing. Alexis. She's very cute. Very pretty girl.
00:36:46.900
Makes videos online. And I don't know. I don't I guess he flew down in his FBI plane to go see her
00:36:54.480
down in Nashville. People found out that he went to go see her down in Nashville. The Internet
00:37:00.000
revolted and said this is an inappropriate use of taxpayer funds. Now, it turns out that he is
00:37:07.200
required to fly on the FBI plane no matter where he goes, whether it's a personal event or if it's a
00:37:13.320
business event. But he is a hypocrite because there are clips of Kash Patel calling the FBI corrupt
00:37:20.920
before he was in the FBI and saying that taxpayers taxpayers shouldn't have to fund their personal
00:37:28.220
trips. And now he's funding his personal trip to go see his girlfriend, Alexis. So the Internet didn't
00:37:33.640
like the hypocrisy. The Internet was correct. The market is always right. OK, the Internet was
00:37:37.380
absolutely correct about this. And what Kash Patel did was he wrote this like Andy Cohen hosting the
00:37:45.420
Real Housewives of D.C. or something type tweet where he defends his girlfriend. I mean, how old
00:37:51.980
is this girl? But seriously, she's she's young. She's she's very young. And this is what he wrote.
00:37:57.400
I'm just going to read it because it's it's so embarrassing that we have to read it and then I'm
00:38:00.980
going to get a passport to Russia. OK, here is the tweet. This is from the director of the FBI,
00:38:06.920
people buckle up. America's so serious. We're big and we're bad. Ready?
00:38:11.740
I am proud of the work of this FBI. We're taking violent criminals off the streets in record
00:38:17.100
numbers, crushing the fentanyl crisis, dismantling cartels, saving children, hunting down terrorists
00:38:22.500
and so much more. Let me be clear. We will not be distracted by baseless rumors or the noise from
00:38:28.460
uninformed Internet anarchists and the fake news. I've always said criticize me all you want. But going
00:38:35.060
after the people doing great work, my personal life or those around around me is a total disgrace.
00:38:40.100
The disgustingly baseless attacks against Alexis, a true patriot and the woman I'm proud to call my
00:38:47.580
partner in life are beyond pathetic. She is a rock solid conservative and a country music sensation
00:38:55.080
who has done more for this nation than most will in 10 lifetimes.
00:39:00.920
I'm so blessed. Sorry, pull that back up. I got to finish. I'm so blessed that she's in my life.
00:39:06.220
Attacking her isn't just wrong. It's cowardly and it jeopardizes our safety. My love of family will
00:39:11.800
always be my cornerstone and you will never tear that down or keep me from them. I and this FBI will
00:39:18.920
stay laser focused on our mission and continue the reform that we promised, rebuilding this borough
00:39:23.340
from the ground up. Okay. It's like a lot. And I love that Twitter hit them immediately.
00:39:29.300
They hit him with a little fact check. People are not attacking Kash Patel's significant other,
00:39:32.640
but rather reacting to his firing of people who point out his usage of government funds to travel
00:39:38.580
to her shows. Now, objectively, this is embarrassing. Objectively, Alexis, she seems like
00:39:45.880
she's a really sweet girl. She is not a country music sensation. It's sweet that you call your
00:39:51.200
girlfriend that. Okay. She's just not a country music sensation. It's ridiculous. It's like me talking
00:39:55.440
to my daughter. Like I do tell her she's a sensation. She's everything she does is sensational.
00:39:59.260
It's just it's so unbelievably petty. It's ridiculous. It's this entire tweet. I just went
00:40:08.660
not every thought you have in your head needs to be sent. This does not make you look masculine.
00:40:14.900
It does not make you look like somebody you should be taken seriously. There was no question
00:40:18.500
that Vladimir Putin and the homies left. They did without question. They're on a group chat right
00:40:24.540
now. Ha ha ha. This is a country music sensation. She's a girlfriend. She's upset. She makes
00:40:30.560
commentary on the Internet. Okay. Fair game. If you're going to weigh into if you're going to
00:40:35.000
wade into politics, then you have to be able to deal with some pushback. Whatever they were saying
00:40:39.740
about her cash. Okay. He's only been dating her, by the way, for like a year and a half. Like this is
00:40:45.320
like it's like a new girl that he's dating. And we're talking about just to remind you in case
00:40:50.940
you're just tuning in, we are talking about the director of the FBI and we are supposed to take
00:40:54.840
away from this that we should have faith that he is emotionally stable enough that he has steeled
00:41:00.680
himself for this investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder. Like we are supposed to believe this is
00:41:06.780
not a crash out. Man, I wish she had said to you, don't send that, honey. Honey, baby. Don't send
00:41:13.980
that, honey. I don't I wouldn't send that, honey, baby. That does not. It may be you feel
00:41:17.980
masculine doing it. But when you send it, it lets people know that America is weak. Like you need to
00:41:23.240
be very reprimanded for this tweet. Could you imagine Vladimir Putin sending this tweet? Could
00:41:28.220
you imagine any of his henchmen? Immediately they would be fired. And that's why I would like to again
00:41:36.220
plead with you guys to consider when I run in the future for dictator of the United States to consider
00:41:43.360
how I will deal with this immediately. I will I will sentence him to a month of hard labor.
00:41:49.080
Obviously, that's the only correct response to Kash Patel writing this like, I don't like these mean
00:41:55.680
girls tweet. It's ridiculous. We are not serious people. The empire is in decline. So figure out
00:42:01.860
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All right, let's get into some of your comments. Maxi Dodo starts. He writes,
00:44:23.760
Dear Candice, thank you for being a true friend to Charlie. My son's middle name is Charlie. He is nine,
00:44:27.840
helped make his name even stronger. You are an inspiration. God bless you and your family.
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Michael writes that from Australia. Thank you, Michael. I love that what I say has reached
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Australia. I wish that I was not banned from Australia, but you know me. I'm a super bad
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criminal, bad to the bone. I won't worship Israel. Stacey Massey writes,
00:44:45.780
So many trolls in the chat, yet by being here, they are supporting. Go, Candice. Yeah,
00:44:50.340
there's so many bots in the chat. I'm sorry that you guys have to go through that. We could actually
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put a timer so they can only post every 30 seconds. Maybe we'll do that going forward.
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Gmon writes, You are a shining light in the dark world. We love you and are behind you. Don't
00:45:02.900
give up or back down. I'm not giving up or backing down. It's like this, if they were ever going to
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steal me and make me so angry that I would just be on a war path, it would have been by assassinating
00:45:14.520
Charlie Kirk and making me watch it. Truly. If you wanted a political foe, this was the way to do it.
00:45:21.580
And what's so funny is I've said in so many rooms, like most people consider me
00:45:25.440
as a formidable enemy, but I'm a much more formidable friend. And I'm going to continue
00:45:31.000
to be a formidable friend to Charlie Kirk. And the best way that I can do that is just telling
00:45:34.200
the truth. No matter what the truth is, I can just share the truth. And that's the amazingness
00:45:38.180
is like we just constantly text it all the time. And as I said, I have no reason to lie.
00:45:45.500
The Turning Point USA has access to all his messages. They can tell you that the messages are real,
00:45:48.660
whether they're true or whether they're false. And I, the truth is enough. The truth is always
00:45:53.200
enough. Tom Paul writes, Tyler Robinson's ACT score was 34. So he was in the 99 percentile.
00:46:00.620
Thomas Matthew Crook's SAT score was in the 99 percentile. Both recent lone shooters scored in the
00:46:05.640
99 percentile on standardized testing. Not a coincidence as if it is out of the same playbook.
00:46:10.760
Something I want to say about that, something actually that I would like to reiterate about that,
00:46:15.880
because I believe that is the reason for standardized test testing, is that it flags for the government
00:46:21.000
people that could be a problem down the line. It's a kind of a repeat story in a lot of these
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mass shootings. I think also the one that was in, and I can't think of the guy's name, but it was in
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Connecticut. Similar story. He somehow hacked the government system and then the FBI showed up at
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his door and then he was a part of some Yale program. I think it's Adam Lanza is who I'm thinking of.
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So there's a theme here. And my opinion on that is not something that can be discussed on YouTube.
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So I'll save it for my book club tomorrow. Petal writes, love you, Candace. Please claim. Oh,
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people claim you don't have a degree, but I've heard you say you do. Please set the record straight.
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Yeah. The truth is that I grew up poor. I was the third of a family of with four children.
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And the mom didn't even graduate high school, actually. And my family didn't have the money
00:47:12.120
to send me to college. So I took out a ton of loans, student loans, Sallie Mae loans. And then
00:47:16.540
in, don't quote me on the year, but I think it was 2010, Sallie Mae had a big collapse. And they said,
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you can't go back for your senior year because we can no longer fund you to go back for your senior
00:47:25.740
year. So I dropped out temporarily. And then I, when I had my own money and paid off my student loans,
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which was something like $150,000 in student loans, which is absurd to me, such a predatory,
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a predatory system. You're literally preying on poor people. Disgusting. That's what usury is all
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about. Once I paid down my student loans, I re-enrolled to finish my last year. And so I have
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two degrees actually. What else do we have here? TB writes, it's important to be exposed to all
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perspectives with the right to respectfully disagree. Charlie stood for that. So anyone who is divisive
00:48:00.820
over this right is, as Candace says it, fake and gay. Yeah. Charlie believed in free speech. He
00:48:06.040
didn't even blink when I hosted Nick Fuentes. What an absurd idea that Charlie would have, if Charlie
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ever messaged me and said, you're betraying me by speaking to this person, I wouldn't have been
00:48:16.640
friends with him. That's the reality. Charlie was so cool. And that's why I hate that they're trying to
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make him like a dork in the afterlife. And I don't say a dork as in someone that's like well-researched
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and knows the facts. I mean, somebody that is so lame that they cannot beat you in the free market.
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So they're trying to arbitrarily force you out as they are doing a Tucker Carlson because you're
00:48:35.460
bigger than them. So trying to create scandal, they're trying to scandalize your name so that
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people stop watching you and trying to say, well, you can't speak on this platform because they can't
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beat you by being themselves because they suck. They're annoying. People don't like them anymore.
00:48:49.360
It's not cool to say, don't have a conversation. It's not cool to hold up like some donor printed
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signs and do a dance in front of Randy Fine. Tucker is not MAGA. People can see which way the wind is
00:49:02.420
blowing. And it's against Israel because everything they do is uncool. And it also happens to be
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genocidal. So that doesn't help either. Anyways, you guys, tomorrow we have the book club. First time
00:49:13.180
ever the book club was infiltrated. I am proud of us. Very proud of us, people on the book club.
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So be sure to be there. Also reminding you guys, make him a sandwich. If you want to buy that,
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go to makehimasandwich.com. You guys are going to love this book because it truly is very true
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and it's very funny. And it's the things that I've gone through, obviously, as a woman and kind of
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waking up to the reality of where that feminist movement came from. Emma Goldman, speaking of
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Beyond the Pale, that will make sense. That's one of the names of the chapter, Beyond the Pale.
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And you will know more about where all of these bad ideas happen to come from.
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Anyways, you guys, that was a fun Monday. Tomorrow we're going to jump back into the timeline because
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I've got some amazing little factoids to add to it. And yeah, things got real interesting for Charlie
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after Tucker Carlson hit the stage. And we're going to speak about that. So I will see you guys tomorrow.