Candace Owens - Kanye West (Ye) x Candace Owens ｜ Candace Ep 42

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00:00:26.640 All right, guys, now it's time for a conversation

00:00:28.980 that so many of you have been waiting for.

00:00:31.660 Candace plus yay. 0.98

00:00:33.200 I guess it kind of starts with a time machine.

00:00:35.560 I gotta take you guys in a time machine

00:00:36.860 back to October 3rd, 2022, a day that will live in infamy.

00:00:42.760 Me and yay premiering shirts at his fashion show,

00:00:47.540 which read White Lives Matter.

00:00:49.700 Definitively a moment I will never forget.

00:00:52.300 We broke the internet.

00:00:53.880 There's no other way to say it.

00:00:54.900 And people just couldn't believe

00:00:56.200 how could a black person say white lives matter? 1.00

00:01:00.340 We can only say black lives matter. 1.00

00:01:02.740 And it's just interesting to see

00:01:04.440 how the media sort of paints a narrative

00:01:06.060 and there's absolutely no truth to it.

00:01:08.340 I mean, what really happened is

00:01:09.800 Gay called me and he asked me to simply be at his show.

00:01:14.880 Never asked me about wearing any shirts.

00:01:17.140 When I was there, we were backstage

00:01:19.060 and he sort of held up the shirt

00:01:20.500 and he was really in the creative process.

00:01:22.980 There were tons of models running around

00:01:24.700 and he just said, I need you to wear this.

00:01:26.700 And I said, sure, because I knew instantly

00:01:28.720 what he was trying to do and what he meant.

00:01:31.800 Shortly thereafter though, everything changed.

00:01:35.000 And obviously, aside from people being angry

00:01:37.560 at us wearing the shirts,

00:01:38.900 then it shifted into this conversation

00:01:40.800 about yay and his antisemitism.

00:01:43.460 And I can say definitively that it was the toughest moment

00:01:49.800 in my entire career.

00:01:51.380 I had never felt more pressure externally

00:01:54.120 from the media and from friends

00:01:58.180 for me to condemn yay.

00:02:02.120 And I didn't take the bait.

00:02:03.180 I didn't take the bait because,

00:02:04.820 as I have said many times,

00:02:06.460 yay had opened up to me about some things

00:02:08.340 that were happening in his life.

00:02:10.040 And you're going to hear in this conversation

00:02:13.100 what those things were.

00:02:15.760 And you can understand how someone would feel

00:02:18.940 if they were subjected to the things

00:02:21.220 that yay was subjected to.

00:02:23.780 I, of course, wanted the world to hear it back then.

00:02:27.520 I had invited yay to come on my podcast at the time

00:02:30.820 and he was slated to come on.

00:02:33.520 But the evening before,

00:02:34.380 I found out that that was not going to be a possibility.

00:02:37.180 The network that I was on didn't think

00:02:39.720 that I was the right person to interview him

00:02:43.200 because of our friendship.

00:02:45.600 And he was really upset.

00:02:47.020 He was very upset.

00:02:48.460 He essentially said that my voice was being controlled

00:02:51.240 and something overtook me in that moment.

00:02:54.260 And I said, look, yay,

00:02:56.380 I obviously cannot overrule this at all.

00:03:00.200 If I had my own platform,

00:03:01.800 I would obviously host a conversation with you,

00:03:04.520 but I don't have that right now.

00:03:05.600 I do not have that right now,

00:03:07.540 but what I do have is a camera

00:03:09.860 and I have a friend who knows how to run a camera

00:03:12.220 and we can just record this moment

00:03:14.580 and we can lock this in a time capsule.

00:03:16.880 And one day I will have my own platform

00:03:19.260 and I will premiere this conversation.

00:03:23.760 And that day is today.

00:03:26.500 When I say that it was a tough moment,

00:03:27.980 you were even looking at me

00:03:29.280 when I watched this conversation back,

00:03:31.020 you can just see it on my face.

00:03:32.340 I was postpartum.

00:03:33.400 There are very few times, I'm not a crier.

00:03:36.660 I definitely am not a crier.

00:03:38.520 That's not how I express emotions,

00:03:40.720 but I remember going through this period

00:03:43.160 and there was a moment when,

00:03:44.940 because I was postpartum,

00:03:46.580 ladies know you had that moment 1.00

00:03:48.600 where your hair sheds postpartum.

00:03:50.660 And I remember dealing with the press cycle with yay,

00:03:54.500 dealing with friends and followers

00:03:56.780 who said they wouldn't support me ever again

00:03:58.620 unless I came out and condemned him,

00:03:59.960 making a decision not to condemn him

00:04:01.720 and standing in the shower

00:04:03.200 and my hair was falling out in clumps

00:04:04.900 and I just said,

00:04:06.100 please, God.

00:04:07.800 And I was just crying hysterically,

00:04:09.300 have mercy on me.

00:04:10.420 Please just have mercy on me.

00:04:11.960 I just need to get through this moment.

00:04:13.760 I'm a breastfeeding mom.

00:04:14.940 I can't take anymore.

00:04:16.200 My show's just gone five days for a week.

00:04:18.640 Make it stop.

00:04:20.080 Make it stop.

00:04:21.980 And I look back on that

00:04:22.900 and I just think everything happens for a reason.

00:04:25.700 And whatever inspired me to say,

00:04:28.380 let's just put on a camera,

00:04:31.440 turn on a camera here and record

00:04:33.200 and have a conversation

00:04:34.220 and lock it up in a time capsule.

00:04:37.400 It was because that was exactly

00:04:39.580 what needed to happen at that time

00:04:40.920 and a better moment for people to hear

00:04:43.480 what yay was thinking

00:04:44.660 and what he had to say is right now.

00:04:47.940 So guys, I invite you to listen to this conversation.

00:04:51.520 Candice plus yay.

00:04:52.560 It was recorded on October 17th, 2022.

00:05:00.280 I hope you like it.

00:05:15.800 I'm happy.

00:05:17.020 Happy to do it tonight.

00:05:18.860 Yeah.

00:05:19.300 So yeah, it's better than doing it in the morning.

00:05:21.000 I'm obviously not the best morning person

00:05:22.540 We've been talking about doing a God cast 1.00

00:05:27.040 for a while, actually.

00:05:28.460 So this works.

00:05:30.040 Why did the word God cast come to you?

00:05:35.280 Rhyme of a podcast.

00:05:36.560 It had God in it.

00:05:37.820 Okay.

00:05:38.340 So it wasn't an ego thing.

00:05:39.880 People will say,

00:05:40.400 oh, yay, Jesus.

00:05:44.480 God cast.

00:05:45.760 Is there any messaging in that?

00:05:47.420 Just the more we could say God,

00:05:49.500 the better.

00:05:49.980 The more we could say God in the media,

00:05:51.660 the better.

00:05:52.280 Yeah.

00:05:52.540 I agree.

00:05:54.240 So I think one of the things that's the most interesting,

00:05:56.360 I want to dive in this way is people don't actually understand.

00:06:01.600 There's something about you and I coming together that the media can not stand.

00:06:07.880 Right.

00:06:08.120 Like it is, it's actually fascinating to me.

00:06:10.560 I called you super stressed out like three nights ago.

00:06:13.780 It's just like, what the heck am I going through right now?

00:06:17.700 Like it's another level that you graduate into when we're talking about yay and we're talking

00:06:24.600 about the media.

00:06:25.440 I don't think people understand.

00:06:26.320 When I say the attacks come from every angle, every side, every regard, they'll attack you

00:06:33.700 on your children.

00:06:34.860 They'll attack me and my relationship.

00:06:36.940 They'll go after family members.

00:06:38.060 My dad called me stressed from Hawaii.

00:06:41.340 Wow.

00:06:42.140 Yeah.

00:06:42.580 He called me stressed from Hawaii.

00:06:45.300 It's so funny that you said, you remember I talked about the gray hat and the gray hat

00:06:53.040 hitting your table?

00:06:53.840 Read the last text from my dad out loud.

00:07:00.300 We talked about the miracles.

00:07:02.720 Read out loud the last text.

00:07:04.180 Wow.

00:07:04.760 When do you want me in Hawaii?

00:07:07.160 That's wild.

00:07:08.940 Well, my dad's in Hawaii right now.

00:07:11.280 That's what I'm saying.

00:07:11.940 Yeah.

00:07:12.180 And he called me stressed up.

00:07:13.340 He went, he, I picked up.

00:07:14.700 He was just like, Candace, what is going on?

00:07:18.240 Then I actually started laughing.

00:07:19.640 It was kind of like comedic relief because my dad is not really like that.

00:07:23.960 And he was like, I'm reading all these headlines.

00:07:25.900 And my sister was texting me.

00:07:27.620 My uncle, like the whole family has just been texting me like, are you good?

00:07:31.680 And all hell is broke loose and all heaven has come through.

00:07:36.200 Yeah.

00:07:37.700 In a way.

00:07:38.260 Yeah, it is.

00:07:39.440 It does feel like all hell has broken loose.

00:07:42.180 And the last time I went through this, though, it was a similar thing.

00:07:45.800 It was like, for some reason, the game of life was just like, Candace and Ye are not allowed to come together.

00:07:52.560 Why?

00:07:54.760 I mean, it's the impact.

00:07:56.160 It's the gut feeling with the, it's the intuition and the intellect.

00:08:06.260 It's the gut with the information.

00:08:10.480 It's the, it's the idea, it's the study.

00:08:16.520 And that's how other people have risen to, to forms of power.

00:08:24.460 God is the only power and we are vessels. 0.71

00:08:27.060 God is a true artist and we're the vessels.

00:08:28.800 And he's calling for me, for us to lean into these, these combinations.

00:08:40.060 What they do is they'll do everything to keep the artists away from each other.

00:08:44.160 Like when me and Demla were next to each other, it was such a powerful combination.

00:08:50.520 When me and Ken were next to each other, that was a powerful combination.

00:08:53.780 When me and Jay-Z were next to each other, it was a powerful combination.

00:08:56.840 So I love these moments of like these powerful combinations together and whatever feel you do for like the futurists, the people who can see what the future is.

00:09:11.600 The kids 20 years younger, 40 years from now, 80 years from now, when they see this, that's a big thing.

00:09:18.660 Is lean into those people that everyone tells you, like, you don't need to be next to that person, but you have something in your heart and your gut on why you should be next to that person.

00:09:29.540 And I've had people like, like comedians that you know of call me and say, stay away from Candace Owens.

00:09:38.500 And, you know, like literally my, I guess they used the term friends, have done the same to me.

00:09:47.600 Even to the point where I'm going to be on Bill Maher this week.

00:09:51.800 I'm going to be on Pierce Morgan.

00:09:53.220 I'm going to be on, I was just on Chris, how do you say his last name?

00:09:58.580 Tonight.

00:10:00.580 Chris.

00:10:02.020 Co.

00:10:04.520 Let me see.

00:10:08.420 Chris Cuomo.

00:10:09.700 Chris Cuomo.

00:10:10.680 Wow.

00:10:11.200 You did Chris Cuomo?

00:10:11.800 Yeah.

00:10:13.120 Tonight, like 30 minute segment, half talking, half a little bit of back and forth arguments.

00:10:19.540 And then when you're landing, they're saying, oh, I can't be on Daily Wire, but I can be on all these platforms.

00:10:25.660 And you said downstairs that they told you the reason was, is you weren't going to push back on me enough.

00:10:31.120 Like Chris was saying stuff like, you need to understand and you need to behave.

00:10:36.320 And he said that at one point in the interview, I said, whoa, let's play that back.

00:10:40.300 You need to behave.

00:10:41.120 You're not supposed to talk like that out loud, Chris.

00:10:45.300 You know, we know that that's what it is.

00:10:47.840 And I was just talking to my girl.

00:10:49.540 She was in the car listening to me while I was doing the Zoom, this live Zoom.

00:10:55.000 And afterwards I said, this is the way I felt in Hollywood the whole time I was there.

00:11:01.240 Like people were telling me like, you need to behave.

00:11:03.400 You cannot wear a red hat.

00:11:05.660 You cannot talk to Candace.

00:11:07.900 You cannot say how you feel out loud.

00:11:09.660 Like today, they took down my Drink Champs.

00:11:13.480 They took it off of whatever platforms, YouTube, Drink Champs, Revolt.

00:11:18.220 And they also took me off of the Balenciaga sites.

00:11:22.140 And I just looked at my girl and said, yo, I'm so happy.

00:11:25.020 Like, I'm so happy because I have this freedom from beholding to these brands that say, we only rock with you under these conditions.

00:11:42.160 Like, we can have you be a black person, but only a black person that says, that's wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt. 0.57

00:11:50.420 Which at this point, now that I've worn a White Lives Matter t-shirt, I'm totally fine with wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt. 0.75

00:11:56.440 You know, it's not because all lives matter.

00:11:58.080 But even all lives matter would have, you know, I cut what I'm saying, this train of thought.

00:12:04.820 No, no, you're making perfect sense to me.

00:12:07.020 I had two thoughts today.

00:12:08.460 The first, well, I had a lot of thoughts today.

00:12:10.880 I didn't just have two thoughts today, just to clarify.

00:12:12.900 But I was thinking earlier about when is the first time that I heard Ye was mentally ill, right?

00:12:20.860 So I grew up on your music.

00:12:23.380 Obviously, everybody knows, like, you know, like when you first were spinning through the wire, you know?

00:12:29.800 And you had a remarkably long career in the public sphere, and nobody had ever called you mentally ill, right? 0.98

00:12:36.940 And now, no matter what you say, when you don't exist under, I would just call it Hollywood terms, their number one rebuttal, if you have an idea or you're saying anything, it's like, well, he's mentally ill. 0.80

00:12:48.280 And he already said he was mentally ill because he said it on this podcast.

00:12:51.400 And therefore, we don't have to listen to anything else that he has to say. 0.97

00:12:53.920 I can see, we were ready to say he's mentally ill.

00:12:55.740 And so I actually researched when is the first time that the public sold us this?

00:12:59.720 And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was in 2017 that they said that you went to the hospital and you were bipolar.

00:13:10.480 It's 2015.

00:13:11.620 Sorry, pardon.

00:13:12.640 2015 when Trump was...

00:13:14.580 Yeah, about to...

00:13:16.460 Right when Trump got elected, I went to the hospital less than a week after that.

00:13:23.160 Because the entire time while he was running, people told me that my life would be over.

00:13:31.000 I would be on the wrong side of history.

00:13:33.800 You know, like literally people threatened my life and told me, me, I did not stand up and say, hey, this is what I believe in.

00:13:42.340 And that's who I am.

00:13:43.400 That's who I...

00:13:44.580 That's what my character is.

00:13:47.340 So I think that...

00:13:48.860 They made you think that...

00:13:50.100 Yeah, it's like how people...

00:13:52.860 They said the reason why I couldn't be on Daily Wire is the Israelite comment.

00:14:00.260 And every Black person is fine with calling ourselves Black and being called Black.

00:14:07.820 But when I bring up the idea that we're Jew because we are from Africa, the Bible was the majority...

00:14:16.100 It's like set in Africa, then it's challenging.

00:14:22.720 And we talk about on the George Floyd documentary, it's called The Greatest Lie Ever Sold.

00:14:27.540 The idea that Black people are not Jew is the greatest lie that's ever sold.

00:14:32.220 Because you don't see the Jewish abortion rate at the same level as the Black abortion rate. 0.91

00:14:38.940 50% of Black deaths a year is actually abortion.

00:14:41.400 You don't see the Jewish divorce rate at the level of 70-something.

00:14:47.640 You said the percentage of Black moms raising their kids by themselves. 0.62

00:14:51.520 You don't see Jewish people shooting each other down in the street on WorldStar and then rapping about it.

00:14:58.920 It's just that there's not Jewish content like that. 0.99

00:15:01.740 And also Jewish people do business together.

00:15:04.740 And that's what I said on The Drink Tramp, say, these are things that I'm envious of.

00:15:10.820 I think the first thing that someone would say if you said that, right, is same for Chinese.

00:15:18.420 You don't see Chinese people shooting each other.

00:15:20.640 You don't see Chinese people with the super high divorce rate.

00:15:22.860 You don't see Chinese people and Japanese people and Korean people and Hispanic people-ish.

00:15:30.020 But no matter what, nobody's rates of violence and abortion are as high.

00:15:35.960 White America, forget Jewish America, white America don't have these same rates, right? 0.89

00:15:39.760 And so they ask why isolate Jewish American population?

00:15:42.600 Well, for Black people, okay, with the rates of that R's being higher, we're still, you know, you go see the slave movie, you see, like, a slave get their teeth pulled out in front of another slave.

00:15:53.680 We're still getting our teeth pulled out, you know, literally, like, in jail.

00:15:58.240 I have friends whose, you know, family members went to jail and they got killed by an officer.

00:16:04.880 And then the officer, like, all of a sudden quit and they're not there anymore and stuff.

00:16:15.240 And, like, so they can't do the trial.

00:16:16.940 And, you know, so we're getting left and right still treated like slaves.

00:16:27.580 And the reason why I specifically say the Jewish people is the Jewish people, like how the Armenians worked in a meatpacking district, the Jewish people came into power in the 80s, truly, you know, when the divorces started happening because of Wall Street.

00:16:55.400 Because the, like, Catholic lawyers wouldn't divorce people and they came into money the way how the darker Jews, the Black people are coming into money now. 0.99

00:17:06.560 And they had to, and they did a great job.

00:17:10.500 They colluded.

00:17:11.780 They, before that, they were very involved with the Civil Rights Movement, which actually the movement was it moved Blacks from being Republican over to becoming Democrats.

00:17:24.800 That was what the movement.

00:17:25.980 That's the, that's where the move happened.

00:17:29.820 And now everyone's, why are you calling them out specifically?

00:17:35.680 When I said DEFCON 3, I didn't get an opportunity to say what that meant.

00:17:41.280 But it meant, I'm going to call out all these things that have been done to me specifically by Jewish people that so happened to be businessmen or businesswomen.

00:17:51.540 But still, it was done by Jewish people to me, to the darker Jew. 0.93

00:17:59.060 And I was going to go one by one.

00:18:02.240 And the reason I said it like that is just to say, I know you guys are going to call this anti-Semite and I'm not afraid of that title. 0.70

00:18:10.020 Now I'm going to lean into that title.

00:18:11.660 So call me whatever you want.

00:18:13.060 Because you call me void already.

00:18:15.520 What's the definition of Black?

00:18:17.000 Void of color.

00:18:18.340 Some people, you know, artists may say it's all color.

00:18:20.960 And it could also mean, like, it's like what they did when I ran for office and they showed me on the TV and they like blacked my face out and they had me be void.

00:18:31.160 And I think that Jewish people always will tell you about the trauma and the Holocaust.

00:18:38.320 So one of my favorite lines on the Drink Champs, you actually hit me about this, is when Dove Trani said, hey, I want to take you to the Holocaust Museum. 0.65

00:18:45.640 And I said, I want you to go to our Holocaust Museum, Planned Parenthood. 0.85

00:18:49.220 Like, we're still in the Holocaust.

00:18:52.140 Six million Jewish people died in the Holocaust. 0.64

00:18:55.280 Over 20 million darker Jews, Black people, have been aborted.

00:19:01.460 More babies are aborted in New York at this point than born at this point. 0.70

00:19:07.440 And my thing about the media, the majority of the media, over 50 percent of the media, at least probably 80 percent, but over 50 percent of the media is run by Jewish executives. 0.90

00:19:19.940 And they allow all of this abortion driven content that more affects the darker Jew, the black people, more than any other race. 0.99

00:19:38.560 But then you ask the question, you can't even Google, like when you Google Jewish abortion rate, it'll be one piece of information.

00:19:44.740 The next information is like from four years ago or something.

00:19:47.620 There's no information about it.

00:19:50.280 And if I try, attempt, attempt, my mom said try and fail.

00:19:54.100 If I fail by attempting to have a conversation with a Jewish person about the abortion rate, they won't allow the conversation to be had. 1.00

00:20:03.040 That's why I said, hey, I'm me tooing the Jewish race that saying, hey, you guys got to come up and say, did you do this or did you not do this?

00:20:14.160 And I'm calling a lot of times say people feel like I'm very selfish driven because I'll talk about things I specifically want to do.

00:20:20.820 So I said, OK, well, I'm this voice for the actors, the musicians, the athletes specifically.

00:20:26.660 I know are in situations where at least four of the people that they do business with are Jewish and those people know each other and the athletes come and go.

00:20:37.820 And that four, five, six, eight people remain.

00:20:42.240 The athletes come and go like like cattle's in the stable.

00:20:45.740 The actors come and go.

00:20:48.000 The musicians come and go.

00:20:49.860 And that mainstay of that Jewish, just say crew, because it sounds less ramped up than mafia, right? 0.97

00:20:58.100 The mob sounds less mentally ill. 0.80

00:21:00.860 So let's say there is definitely a crew.

00:21:04.140 And I've been there and I've been talked to certain kind of ways.

00:21:11.020 And you know who else wouldn't be talked to a certain kind of way?

00:21:14.620 Kobe Bryant.

00:21:16.040 You don't get talked to a certain way.

00:21:17.960 I don't get talked to a certain kind of way.

00:21:19.440 So things that I'm saying out loud, hyped up or calmly, I'm saying things five times a day that black people, leaders,

00:21:29.140 that specific black people, just leaders throughout time, have been killed for things that we're doing five times a day.

00:21:36.100 So one thing for the black community and all of this like woke culture and, you know, Charlemagne and different things, 0.97

00:21:45.420 it's like, bro, this is getting ridiculous at this point. 0.80

00:21:47.460 People got to put some respect on the fact that I'm actually brave enough to say this out loud.

00:21:55.380 Like that's what's lit.

00:21:57.640 That's what God is inside of me.

00:21:59.460 That's why I feel so good to be used.

00:22:02.560 You ain't got me to a point.

00:22:03.600 Y'all call me so many names.

00:22:05.680 You've disrespected me for three years.

00:22:07.720 Forbes wouldn't call me a billionaire.

00:22:09.320 It is important if people are calling me crazy to be like, oh, but I'm a billionaire because it's like, it's not me being classist.

00:22:17.580 It's just me fighting against that saying, OK, you're calling me crazy, but I must be doing something right.

00:22:23.460 Now I'm not doing something.

00:22:24.060 I'm doing everything right.

00:22:25.880 And then to reach to the concept, the idea of being the richest black person ever.

00:22:31.780 And we're just at the beginning.

00:22:33.520 It seems like we've got something new to worry about every single day.

00:22:36.220 I mean, do we even know who's actually running the country at this point?

00:22:39.320 We don't.

00:22:40.120 There's wars, inflation, the persecution of political opponents.

00:22:42.720 It doesn't seem to ever stop.

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00:23:17.960 You know, George Farmer was so elated by the response that we were getting.

00:23:31.600 And then Elon Musk was retweeting what's going on or tweeting about what's going on today.

00:23:38.800 And it hit Bloomberg, and it's top trending.

00:23:41.860 And I said to my chief of staff, give me a plane.

00:23:45.620 I'm going to Nashville right now.

00:23:48.040 And the feeling is right.

00:23:49.520 Then we went to a restaurant, and the restaurant literally had all the same letters of the name my mother gave me.

00:23:56.040 It was K-A-Y-N-E. 1.00

00:23:57.560 So that's another, it's like you're talking about your dad with Hawaii.

00:24:02.820 And I had to, you know, you guys saw that.

00:24:06.500 You saw me hand the phone over, like David Blaine.

00:24:09.460 I couldn't have written that.

00:24:11.480 My dad is like, because the funny thing is, where is your dad in Hawaii?

00:24:14.700 Because I have this feeling like, let's go to Hawaii because I made really good music in Hawaii.

00:24:21.400 And I just want to go to Hawaii and actually do what Jewish people love the best out of me is make music and make people really happy.

00:24:30.200 That's interesting because I think what's missing in the conversation and the media trying to spin what you're saying is that you are talking about an industry where there are Jewish executives.

00:24:40.580 And that's the first time I've actually heard you say Jewish executives.

00:24:43.620 And I think before, the way that they were trying to sort of callously interpret it was that you meant every single Jewish person in the entire world.

00:24:50.600 A person walking the street has this power.

00:24:52.840 But you live, I mean, you have lived for a very long piece of your life, at least in Hollywood.

00:24:57.460 And what is weird to me and where I'm trying to play catch up is that there was a piece in the L.A. Times written by a Jewish guy named Joel Stein.

00:25:08.540 And he said, who runs Hollywood?

00:25:11.320 Come on, man.

00:25:12.100 And he's a Jewish guy.

00:25:13.160 And he wrote about how all the executives in Hollywood were Jewish.

00:25:16.220 And that piece wasn't called anti-Semitic.

00:25:19.000 But yet now, if you say that part, if you say that a lot of the executives, especially in music, I thought this was something that people knew.

00:25:26.180 I've heard this in Jay-Z's music before.

00:25:28.080 So I was very surprised that there was this, oh, my God, how dare he say this?

00:25:33.460 And it's anti-Semitic for him to say this.

00:25:35.780 And how can you say that, you know, I think what you're talking about is that every piece of what you have created has been owned by a Jewish executive. 0.98

00:25:44.000 And that there are a lot of, there's a disproportionate amount of Jewish executives in Hollywood.

00:25:48.800 Like, if I was going to get my nails done, I might say there's a disproportionate amount of Vietnamese people wearing their nail signs. 1.00

00:25:54.480 You know what I'm saying?

00:25:55.260 I don't know what happened, but they got here and they were like, we're going to do nails.

00:25:58.100 You know what I'm saying?

00:25:58.440 I was black people in the NBA.

00:25:59.820 Right.

00:26:00.220 Disproportionate.

00:26:00.620 Yeah, so why is that, why is, are we allowed to say that if I, like I just said that, the disproportionate amount of Vietnamese people doing nails, nobody would have censored that if I said there's a disproportionate amount of Spanish blood, the border. 0.83

00:26:13.780 Because the people who run the nail shop. 1.00

00:26:16.360 But that won't get censored.

00:26:17.920 The people who run the nail shop don't run your podcast.

00:26:20.160 That's it.

00:26:24.820 Okay.

00:26:25.220 Now your nails might not get done.

00:26:28.140 As before.

00:26:29.160 They're going to be like, she's blowing up, she's blowing up the industry that we're at. 0.98

00:26:31.880 But that's true. 0.95

00:26:32.700 That's why I say Jewish people have bought the black voice. 1.00

00:26:35.820 That's what you meant by it, is that they are, they're disproportionately representing the media.

00:26:38.880 And so if something that you say is something that they, that you, they don't like, they won't allow you to have it said.

00:26:43.740 That's what you meant.

00:26:44.560 That's getting more specific.

00:26:45.980 Okay.

00:26:46.220 It's more specific, but my emotion about it as a human being, as a leader, as a leader, I operate at every medium from the most brash and brutal to medium and understandable to highly sophisticated.

00:27:06.340 We have to operate in all those.

00:27:09.100 My feeling and my emotion, because I am a human being, I'm not a robot.

00:27:13.520 So if you take a woman can be scarred by men just off of one bad experience with a man, perhaps it might be a six-year-old girl that has an experience she shouldn't have had with an uncle.

00:27:31.060 And that woman ends up being a stripper or, you know, disliking men. 1.00

00:27:37.020 So imagine if that woman had that experience with 10 men, right?

00:27:44.520 So I can tell you there's, I've had 10 bad experiences with Jewish execs with, and these are the people, the Jewish people I come in contact with. 0.70

00:27:56.940 So if that woman had that experience with 10 men, she might say this term, men are all the same.

00:28:04.480 She could sing it.

00:28:05.840 She could say it.

00:28:07.020 And imagine if she was just like beautiful, like if she had like the face of Irina Shayk or the body of Candice Swanepoel or the body of Kim or something like that, right?

00:28:19.300 Like it's, if this person like was just kind of stood back or like say it's like Halle Berry or something, like if they, if they just stepped back and were a bit timid to give a number out or, and someone says she hates men, she hates men.

00:28:39.040 What do you mean all men and what men do a whole series of 80 outline things calling she's anti-menetic?

00:28:50.240 Is she, is she anti-menetic because of her experiences and she allowed to have the emotion that because of her experience, now she hates, now she dislikes, you know, I'm going to say dislikes because it's considered to be hate speech.

00:29:05.260 It's like, yes, I have a, I'm, I'm at a place where I'm like, I'm not going to talk specifically to Jewish, uh, businessmen because the Jewish businessmen are the ones who have done the things to me to hurt me and to hurt my friends. 0.99

00:29:21.700 Right.

00:29:22.240 So now I'm talking to Jewish businessmen's, uh, families.

00:29:25.980 That's why I said the Jewish people, because I'm calling the Jewish people to talk to the Jewish businessmen family and say, are you doing fair deals or with your version of the boys club, right? 0.94

00:29:40.680 This isn't the Catholic Protestant boys club.

00:29:43.780 This is people that have been through pain and rose to success.

00:29:48.180 The Jewish business community, I need their families, their dads, grandparents, wives, children to ask them, are you doing fair deals by God?

00:30:01.740 Because yes, we do have Zionist Jews and we have godly, you know, take Friday and Saturday off Jews, right?

00:30:09.040 Jewish people, um, and as Jay, in my position, I'm one of the darker Jews, black people's most loved by Jewish people, blacks period, like for 20 years.

00:30:22.960 So that's the reason why God put me in this position.

00:30:25.140 You know, when, with the, as I'm, I have to word it the right way, but with the, with, uh, 2024, uh, you know, coming two years from now, whoever goes into, whoever ends up into office by 2024 has to bring the country together.

00:30:49.420 There's no more of this divide.

00:30:51.320 So that means the funny thing about the Jewish media is I have their attention. 1.00

00:30:57.320 They love me.

00:30:58.060 They always love me.

00:30:58.700 I have their attention.

00:30:59.160 Now you're referring to media executives.

00:31:01.800 So like.

00:31:02.860 Executives.

00:31:03.360 Yeah.

00:31:03.640 Yeah.

00:31:03.860 So like TMZ is owned by Harvey.

00:31:05.480 And that's one Hollywood publication that would like be writing about you all the time.

00:31:09.200 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:10.100 So.

00:31:10.620 Harvey Levin.

00:31:11.660 Yeah.

00:31:12.260 Harvey.

00:31:12.960 My name is Jay.

00:31:13.940 Isn't that Kanye West?

00:31:14.760 I take it.

00:31:15.220 I take it like you calling Caitlin Bruce.

00:31:18.100 Like my name is Jay.

00:31:19.320 Like, so those little things also refer to me as billionaire, Christian billionaire.

00:31:25.780 Yay.

00:31:26.680 Matter of fact, I may legally change my name to Christian billionaire.

00:31:31.200 Yay.

00:31:31.820 So you'll be forced to call me Christian billionaire.

00:31:35.560 Yay.

00:31:36.160 So, cause I got, since my name is Jay, I got a lot of room to extend it on the other side.

00:31:41.060 I'm doing a prefix.

00:31:42.220 Uh, so, uh, that, uh, let's say I had a train of thought on that.

00:31:48.640 I was getting to, um, you were saying, you were saying the Jewish media and I just interjected

00:31:52.500 to say, you're talking about specific people in media.

00:31:55.060 But what was I saying about the Jewish media?

00:31:57.440 I don't want to like kind of ramble to find my point again.

00:32:00.900 Yeah.

00:32:01.280 It's a really good point.

00:32:02.260 Cause even like wearing that ticket, I'm like a bit sleepy.

00:32:05.460 Yeah.

00:32:05.640 It's just a really, that's what made through the wire.

00:32:08.040 I'm going to do podcasts sleepy for now.

00:32:10.200 When I do a Bill Maher two days from now, I'm going to go in sleepy.

00:32:15.100 Right.

00:32:15.620 Because I have so much energy as like alien level African King that if you put me in a 0.64

00:32:25.600 normal podcast situation with an antagonistic, uh, media person, then they can get me to

00:32:34.760 look as animated as they would want me to be on stage or on a basketball court.

00:32:39.940 But in that setting, I have to speak.

00:32:42.640 So now I figured out the code to be as calm as, you know, they would like me to be in these

00:32:48.640 situations.

00:32:49.980 So, uh, but man, I'll, I'll get back to it.

00:32:53.900 Otherwise we'll have like another conversation.

00:32:56.300 We'll be good.

00:32:56.980 Yeah.

00:32:57.380 Fine.

00:32:57.740 Well, what we were saying.

00:32:58.960 Yeah.

00:32:59.700 But I just want to, the one I want to go back to though, um, with the two things I want

00:33:03.400 to say.

00:33:03.640 So first off, when I was coming on the plane, my podcast was on shuffle and, um, cheesy song

00:33:08.900 came on.

00:33:09.440 It was, um, he says, Oh, I don't know.

00:33:18.320 He says, I dumbed down my audience to double my dollars.

00:33:22.060 They criticize me for it.

00:33:23.580 Yet they all yell, holla.

00:33:25.160 If skills sold truth, be told, I'd probably be lyrically Talib Kweli.

00:33:30.040 Truthfully, I want to rhyme like common sense, but I did five mil and I ain't been rhyming

00:33:34.160 like common sense.

00:33:35.580 When you're since got that much in common and you've been hustling since the only perception

00:33:39.640 for perception go with what makes sense.

00:33:42.160 Since I know what I'm up against, we as rappers must decide what's most important.

00:33:46.820 Intent and I can't help the poor if I'm one of them.

00:33:49.880 So I got rich and gave back to me.

00:33:51.740 That's the win-win.

00:33:53.300 And I was just so stunned.

00:33:54.680 I ran it back like 10 times because I forgot how much I love that song.

00:33:57.300 And I was like, he's literally telling you that he is dumbing himself down.

00:34:01.440 And he has decided that the better thing to do is to keep the people that follow him 0.99

00:34:06.320 stupid and be able to help them by giving money. 1.00

00:34:08.860 Like I can't help the poor. 1.00

00:34:09.820 I dumbed down my audience to double my dollars.

00:34:12.220 Like he has to make a decision to be smart, right?

00:34:16.180 To be rapping like telling quality or to make money and be able to give back to people.

00:34:21.160 So he knows, and this made me think of you because you said on that podcast that got taken

00:34:26.360 down, that information is the number one resource, right?

00:34:30.480 And he knows that he has to choose between giving the people information or having success.

00:34:38.520 And I was stunned by the verse.

00:34:40.040 And what record label was he on that helped influence that decision?

00:34:45.600 It was a Jewish record label.

00:34:47.580 Okay.

00:34:47.940 What was it?

00:34:48.640 I don't know.

00:34:49.120 See, I don't know the industry.

00:34:50.280 Universal, Def Jam.

00:34:51.320 Yeah, Def Jam.

00:34:52.220 He was definitely a Jewish and French because you got Vivendi that owns Universal.

00:34:56.900 But French, that's super colonizers. 1.00

00:34:59.400 Like the French own 80% of African banks. 0.69

00:35:03.080 Nobody would be mad if you had tweeted that, by the way.

00:35:06.000 Of the French? 0.94

00:35:06.580 But that's because the French don't hyper focus on controlling the black voice like the

00:35:12.280 Jewish media does.

00:35:14.420 So, but this makes me think, Drake is the best rapper ever by the numbers.

00:35:23.140 Jay-Z is the greatest rapper ever by the inspiration.

00:35:27.280 Yeah.

00:35:27.500 He inspired me.

00:35:28.680 There you go.

00:35:29.240 He was smart.

00:35:30.080 You know what I mean?

00:35:30.680 Like he was talking business, but you either got it or you didn't. 1.00

00:35:34.640 He was telling you like the code that now I'm being stupid. 0.99

00:35:38.940 Like I'm giving you guys stupid stuff because this is how it works. 1.00

00:35:42.620 Like in order for me to stay successful, I have to keep giving you stupid stuff. 1.00

00:35:45.960 I just think y'all say you need to let him go get some pussy. 1.00

00:35:48.600 Seriously. 1.00

00:35:48.880 Go to the DR or something like, you know what I mean?

00:36:06.420 What's that about though?

00:36:08.620 What's that about?

00:36:09.640 Are you, are you good friends?

00:36:10.700 Are you good friends with him still?

00:36:12.960 Cause you know what's missing from this hole?

00:36:14.860 I don't know if you're going to run that line or not.

00:36:17.580 I'm not.

00:36:18.260 This is, this is going up on parlor.

00:36:20.560 Are you going to run it?

00:36:21.760 Yeah.

00:36:22.300 That's the bigger question.

00:36:23.480 You gotta, I just think like, man, it's like Jay-Z is like the head, head, head.

00:36:32.740 You know, we're, we're under the fire and we're the firefighters, but in order to be a good firefighter, you got to be willing to run into that fire.

00:36:41.740 And that's what makes me the number one firefighter.

00:36:45.100 That's what makes me Michael, because I'll run into that fire.

00:36:48.900 Everyone knows that I'll run into that fire for the people in the burning building.

00:36:53.620 Who's the people in the burning building?

00:36:54.860 All of society. 0.99

00:36:56.460 Because blacks and rappers are the thought leaders. 0.92

00:36:59.780 We're like everyone, people, you know, if you go to a college, people have different majors,

00:37:08.720 but everyone majors in Drake at the college.

00:37:12.580 It's very few people, even if they don't particularly seek to listen to them, everyone in the college knows the song.

00:37:21.040 So that becomes then the information of part of people's curriculum and DNA of the way we think.

00:37:28.440 And what I've been saying is like the idea of free thought, the white lives matter t-shirt. 0.91

00:37:33.220 That's an, that's an idea.

00:37:35.120 Let's talk about idea separate to that t-shirt.

00:37:38.320 You have the idea for civilization to move forward.

00:37:43.860 What do we do in marches?

00:37:45.320 We marched.

00:37:46.440 And what's marching?

00:37:47.580 Walking, right?

00:37:48.580 In order to walk, what do you need?

00:37:50.540 Both legs in order to walk.

00:37:52.640 How, how, how do both legs work?

00:37:54.780 One foot in front of the other, one foot in front of the other.

00:37:57.620 So watch this.

00:37:58.820 An idea is your left leg and actualizing.

00:38:04.200 I like it better than execute, like universal, positive, forward movement language.

00:38:10.460 You actualize with your right leg.

00:38:13.520 You think the idea with your left leg, you actualize, you're moving forward, right?

00:38:17.660 But if you go into a place where there's thought police, they put the innovators into a place of crawling.

00:38:23.140 And our civilization is no longer moving forward.

00:38:27.100 And you can believe it or you can not.

00:38:29.060 And I can like classify as a black person and this and that.

00:38:31.540 But I'm challenging all the systems one by one, right?

00:38:35.760 That we will be happier.

00:38:38.860 And not only, I don't love the word utopia, it seems over the top.

00:38:43.220 Not only find a happier way to live, we will actually survive.

00:38:48.240 Because we can't survive by being oppressed, by having our thoughts oppressed and being afraid to say what we feel.

00:38:56.280 Because, hey, you know what?

00:38:58.500 We could feel something for a bit.

00:39:03.780 You know, and then if you get to do it, you can get over it.

00:39:09.800 Like sometimes like a kid can have a chocolate binge and they get the stomach ache and it only happens one time.

00:39:15.040 Or they can go and touch the stove and they get burnt and it only happens one time.

00:39:19.140 Right now, we're not getting the opportunity to touch the stove.

00:39:21.740 If I hadn't went so far, said the word DEFCON, right, DEFCON, then I couldn't have, we couldn't have had an openly, open conversation about what Jewish execs are specifically doing. 0.86

00:39:35.700 All of the conversation would have been said to be hate speech.

00:39:39.420 Like how can I hate Jews that I consider myself to be Jew? 0.95

00:39:44.020 But then people say, well, you hate black people because you wore White Lives Matter. 0.87

00:39:48.080 And now, like I talked to Noriega this morning, he was like, okay, I realized this. 0.78

00:39:52.780 I realized that I really don't feel Prodigy die from choking on an egg.

00:39:57.140 Jumping in right here, because at that time, as you can see, both of us were really sleepy.

00:40:01.420 It was very late at night and we were having that discussion.

00:40:04.880 And I hadn't even fully comprehended what he said there when he said that people don't believe that Prodigy choked on an egg.

00:40:12.360 And I had no idea what he was referring to.

00:40:15.160 And I just wanted to let you guys know that there was a rapper named Prodigy who began speaking out about the Illuminati.

00:40:24.880 He basically said, I have this platform and I want to use my platform for good to wake up the masses to what's really going on in society.

00:40:32.000 And so I am going to dig up this old clip of Prodigy right before he mysteriously choked on an egg and he decided to speak with Alex Jones.

00:40:48.460 Take a listen to what Prodigy had to say. 0.96

00:40:51.160 Yeah, they're doing all this ritualistic murder and rituals on little, you know, they're molesting little kids, doing sex, satanic sex rituals. 0.98

00:41:04.480 Like, this stuff is really going on in this world. 0.87

00:41:06.800 Like, on 9-11, you know what I mean, what they did was they killed 20 birds with one stone.

00:41:14.380 You know what I'm saying?

00:41:14.980 That's how I like to say it.

00:41:16.640 You know what I mean?

00:41:17.040 Because they changed all kinds of laws.

00:41:19.880 They changed all kinds of, they changed people's mentality, the way they look at the world.

00:41:26.760 So they pulled off one of the biggest ritualistic murders, you know what I mean, that ever happened, you know what I mean, live for the whole world to see.

00:41:39.600 So there you have it.

00:41:41.380 That is Prodigy.

00:41:42.160 And like I said, he then mysteriously choked on an egg, maybe the first person in human history to have choked on an egg in some capacity after speaking out about the Illuminati.

00:41:57.800 Let's jump back into my conversation with Ye.

00:42:00.460 I really believe in a lot of the things that you're talking about, but we'd rather just accept the pain.

00:42:07.660 Pain is like, first thing that drugs that we get, you know, as black people is like sugar and then pain.

00:42:14.360 And pain because of, and I know because I have a tendency, you know, to be masochistic.

00:42:19.660 It's part of my superpower, right?

00:42:21.280 Like the ability to deadpool the pain, to overcome, like, but I, like, I'm telling you like a good comment, a bad comment, someone calling you something can change how you feel.

00:42:32.480 People have sent me so many comments about, you know, me standing up about the information with Black Lives Matter and George Floyd that I actually felt happier today.

00:42:44.020 Like today has been my happiest day, right?

00:42:46.480 Because obviously there's, you know, you showed in your documentary that they hired thousands of people to go out in the street and there's a currency for outrage.

00:42:56.220 But there's also really intelligent Black people that are tired of our narrative being forced down, you know, forced to us.

00:43:06.400 I don't want to say down at the, it's not like pause.

00:43:08.960 So, but our narrative being forced to us for us to take, you know, what happened before with the media is, you know, they would go and get the best and the brightest to represent Black people.

00:43:25.100 And there's been a shift.

00:43:27.460 There's been a shift.

00:43:28.860 They don't want there to be another Beyonce.

00:43:31.620 They don't want there to be a Candace.

00:43:33.760 They don't want there to be a Ye. 1.00

00:43:35.500 They don't want there to be a Dr. King, a Farrakhan, a Martin Luther King, Michael Jordan, Nat King Cole.

00:43:43.660 They don't want that.

00:43:45.020 They want to say, hey, we're going to take this person that was a drug addict and we're going to replace him.

00:43:53.580 We're going to replace Martin Luther King with a drug addict.

00:43:57.460 We're going to replace my dad, who was a Black Panther, with the Disney version of Black Panthers. 0.95

00:44:03.360 And the fact that Virgil passed.

00:44:06.020 No, I don't mean Virgil.

00:44:07.000 I mean, George passed.

00:44:08.440 I don't mean George.

00:44:09.220 I mean, Chad passed.

00:44:10.940 Now, you can't talk about Black Panther or you can't point out that Black Panther was actually being used to erase my father's legacy and what he fought for as the actual Black Panthers.

00:44:26.820 And also, if you go to this one, I think it's called Maleficent, this other Disney film.

00:44:34.680 If you look up Moors, there's a Black guy with wings on next to Maleficent. 0.98

00:44:40.680 But that's not who the Moors were to us. 0.99

00:44:44.360 And it's so funny.

00:44:45.760 The first thing I said when I wore the White Lives Matter t-shirt in Paris, I said, you can't un-Google this.

00:44:52.740 But they took the interview down.

00:44:56.660 So they're in the process of slowly un-Googling me.

00:45:02.980 They're in the process, mark my words, they're in the process of un-Googling me.

00:45:11.580 And it's a balance.

00:45:16.420 It's like an argument that's happening inside of the Jewish media right now.

00:45:22.020 Like, do we give them the platform?

00:45:24.260 Do we not give them the platform?

00:45:25.680 Because not giving you the platform is almost proving your point.

00:45:32.260 Yeah.

00:45:32.400 Right?

00:45:32.800 So if you have a Jewish executive who makes a decision that you're not allowed to be on the platform, then you go, okay, well, you put my point.

00:45:39.920 Right?

00:45:40.340 That's why we're in your house right now.

00:45:43.500 Because they wouldn't let us talk on Daily Wire specifically for me having the claim, the possibility that the darker Jew known as Blacks that came from Africa could possibly be Israelites.

00:46:01.040 That could possibly be Jew. 0.99

00:46:03.020 And I was, just to be super open, I was confused by it because I'm like, are we saying that there's no interesting as Black Israelis?

00:46:08.920 They live in Israel.

00:46:10.080 So I don't know.

00:46:10.680 Maybe Kanye descends from it.

00:46:11.680 Maybe I descends from it.

00:46:12.520 Who knows?

00:46:13.140 Right?

00:46:13.360 So I don't know why making that claim.

00:46:15.340 Like, if you got up here right now and you were like, I'm a white male, why would you need to be deplatformed for that?

00:46:21.140 Like, why would that be such a thing that you couldn't say?

00:46:24.060 That I'd be like, oh my God, I'm not going to say that you're a white male.

00:46:25.720 We cannot have you on the show. 0.69

00:46:26.800 And maybe if people could be transgender, why couldn't people be? 0.68

00:46:30.260 Right.

00:46:30.480 That's what I mean.

00:46:31.220 Like, what's the big deal?

00:46:32.260 Let's pretend that you're completely making it up.

00:46:34.080 Why can't you just say that?

00:46:35.380 Like, why is that information, like you thinking that so crazy that it can't be said?

00:46:41.080 You know?

00:46:41.360 Yeah.

00:46:41.580 If people could be transgender, why couldn't they be trans race? 0.99

00:46:45.500 You can define who you are.

00:46:47.200 Rachel Dolezal is trans race. 0.96

00:46:48.460 She got an OnlyFans.

00:46:49.360 She's not deplatformed.

00:46:50.260 She didn't get her Twitter account taken or Instagram taken.

00:46:53.900 So that's kind of the question that I had.

00:46:56.100 And I also want to ask you, like, going back to your analogy, why run into the burning building, right?

00:47:02.660 When the people inside of it are saying, we don't want help.

00:47:07.680 Because they're so convinced that it's not a burning building, right?

00:47:12.700 So you either have the Jay-Z perspective where it's like, what I'm going to do is I'm going to send some firefighters to try to throw some water on it.

00:47:19.320 Because your perspective is like, I'm going to run into the building, rescue as many people as I can, and I might kill myself in the process, right?

00:47:28.960 Why not do what Jay-Z is doing?

00:47:32.220 Know, get to the top, know how it works, and just say, well, I'll do a little charity here in Zimbabwe is what it is.

00:47:39.540 Yeah, because just enough isn't enough.

00:47:41.860 Like, God calls us.

00:47:43.760 And I believe God's going to call them, too, because they're dealing with it even in their positions.

00:47:50.340 You know, they don't, like I said, they don't want another, the media doesn't want another Beyoncé.

00:47:55.580 They want to go and take.

00:47:56.440 They launched Trayvon, the BLM movement with Beyoncé and Jay-Z. 0.94

00:48:00.320 Don't forget the Trayvon Martin, BLM thing. 0.56

00:48:02.420 That was them marching in the streets in Brooklyn.

00:48:05.200 So I want to correct me.

00:48:06.500 Brooklyn, Beyoncé, and Jay-Z.

00:48:09.200 Did they launch that movement?

00:48:10.780 I can't say that they always, you know, make the right decisions and stuff.

00:48:17.080 They lost one of their best decision makers, being me.

00:48:22.660 Like, I kind of, you know, went into, you know, Calabasas for a little bit and, you know, blew it up, right?

00:48:30.840 You know, you got this person getting people out of jail, you know, like, you know, making billions of dollars, cultural influence, all this stuff.

00:48:40.320 And, you know, God has called me to move around.

00:48:46.020 Interesting, like, okay, so I'm at the BLM premiere and the, or the, the, the death of the, the BLM, the scam aspect of BLM.

00:49:02.020 Now, I want to say this, this may get picked up or not, that I felt, when I saw Kamala was running for office and they showed this picture of her as a child, I saw my mother in that picture.

00:49:18.460 I wanted to vote for her.

00:49:19.700 I almost forgot I was running.

00:49:20.820 And I was like, oh, right?

00:49:23.000 And so when I see the George Floyd video, the way they capture it, the way it sounds, it hits me, right?

00:49:35.060 In a place.

00:49:35.760 It's like you, you completely forget that the guy is on drugs.

00:49:39.280 You completely, all these different things.

00:49:40.920 And I just, it just hits, it hits me as a, as a black person.

00:49:45.720 I put that label, the label I've been given that I've grown up with.

00:49:49.300 And I understand why it hurts.

00:49:53.340 And I understand why it worked for, for a moment.

00:49:58.920 But now we're in a place where we have to dispel the trauma and move forward.

00:50:04.940 It feels like all black people own are trauma, the word and braids. 1.00

00:50:14.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:50:14.860 Can't nobody get braids. 1.00

00:50:16.380 You better not get braids type.

00:50:18.380 You know what I'm saying?

00:50:19.300 I look, and then.

00:50:21.060 It's appropriation.

00:50:22.120 It's ours.

00:50:22.600 Appropriation.

00:50:23.280 Yeah.

00:50:23.600 But where's our land appropriation?

00:50:27.080 Where's our, you know, company appropriation?

00:50:31.320 Where's our brand appropriation?

00:50:33.700 You know, we, we, we're the walking billboards for Louis Vuitton and Balenciaga.

00:50:39.540 It was interesting, just the shift, the, the tectonic plate shift of me closing the Balenciaga, opening the Balenciaga show.

00:50:50.660 And everyone, you know, from the culture, black people, white people, they were all into the idea that me, because I was ruffling some feathers.

00:50:59.520 It was right on the line of, is it too far?

00:51:02.600 Right.

00:51:02.940 And then I opened up the Balenciaga show and people were just like, what?

00:51:07.060 And it felt good.

00:51:08.600 It felt awesome.

00:51:09.440 And then I put up a picture and under, I said war, but little did they know that I meant war?

00:51:15.820 And then the next day I do a fashion show that's purposely sabotaged.

00:51:23.060 Like people, this is like rumors of Catholic priests, you know, levels, you know, sabotage.

00:51:29.440 They went and took the, I don't want to word it like that because I could be taking misconstrued.

00:51:35.040 They sabotaged the season nine show.

00:51:38.140 They went and took the microphones off of the children's choir to make sure that we started late.

00:51:47.160 That was just one.

00:51:48.820 And I was there when you were like yelling, like you were upset about that.

00:51:51.980 I remember.

00:51:52.360 Yeah.

00:51:52.760 They're saying like the mics off the kids, the mics off the kids, supposed to be starting.

00:51:55.820 And that was one of a thousand things.

00:51:57.940 Even the, the lady that was, you know, there is now she's leaving the school. 0.68

00:52:03.420 She'll no longer be principal, you know, moving forward.

00:52:07.280 So, um, uh, that was just an example.

00:52:12.060 It was like, here's the shift.

00:52:13.740 And it started there and it gave the opportunity for the speech.

00:52:17.600 And it said, Hey, I'm the leader.

00:52:21.180 You will not un-Google this.

00:52:24.040 And they caught the picture of the t-shirt and it said, white lives matter on it. 0.81

00:52:30.160 And, uh, all hell broke loose.

00:52:33.420 But when hell broke breaks loose, we have an opportunity for heaven to come through and

00:52:39.220 for God to use us.

00:52:40.260 And that's what's happening.

00:52:41.240 I mean, that thing was like two weeks ago, two weeks ago that that happened.

00:52:46.780 It's crazy.

00:52:47.280 It seems like a lifetime ago.

00:52:48.920 Literally.

00:52:49.320 I'm 80 years old.

00:52:50.280 As I sit in this chair,

00:52:51.100 see, you, you, you, you age in an Obama years.

00:52:53.920 I'm aging in an Obama years. 0.55

00:52:55.400 I'm about to walk out of this and just have white hair.

00:52:57.940 I was just like, I mean, I got to a moment where I was just like, wow, how did a t-shirt

00:53:03.920 do this?

00:53:04.740 You know what I'm saying?

00:53:05.840 Yeah.

00:53:06.000 Uh, and you know what, they're angry is because in my perspective, it was like, we wore the

00:53:11.380 t-shirt and then they did their usual media attacks.

00:53:14.140 And usually they're up against people that they can break.

00:53:17.800 Right.

00:53:18.220 So they needed me to post the statement.

00:53:20.300 That's like, you know, I'm getting my distance from yay. 0.86

00:53:24.600 And I've realized that he's made some mistakes so that he's off his meds and he's crazy.

00:53:28.200 And I hope he gets the help he needs.

00:53:30.140 Right.

00:53:30.560 I didn't do that.

00:53:31.860 So they doubled the test.

00:53:33.020 Yeah.

00:53:33.340 Right.

00:53:33.720 So now they're going after my family.

00:53:35.440 Like they edited this photo, this video of me and you.

00:53:38.340 I didn't even tell you this on the red carpet at my premiere to make it look like we were

00:53:42.220 in a relationship.

00:53:43.480 And this starts going viral.

00:53:45.100 Meanwhile, you know, my husband was 10 feet away.

00:53:46.640 He doesn't do cameras.

00:53:47.960 Right.

00:53:48.320 So they're doing, I mean, from every single angle, just trying to see if they can break

00:53:52.800 you and I having a type of relationship, which is fascinating because the same thing

00:53:57.160 happened last time.

00:53:58.020 And that was like the whole Blexit thing, except you took the bait that time.

00:54:03.760 And then.

00:54:04.720 And never, never.

00:54:05.660 That's my never again. 0.94

00:54:07.180 Like I say, Kamala's our never again, because you are what black people wanted Kamala to 1.00

00:54:13.560 be.

00:54:14.380 You're exactly.

00:54:15.640 So thank you very much, media, for prepping the culture to be able to see what we,

00:54:27.160 what we really need.

00:54:29.160 And I mean, it's just such a godsend.

00:54:31.200 I'm just, it's, I'm just, it's just hitting me right now that we started, that we absorbed

00:54:36.660 this platform and, you know, what we're going to be able to do with it.

00:54:41.920 It's incredible.

00:54:42.980 The question that I wanted to ask for a phone, do you believe that you have bipolar?

00:54:48.180 Who told you you were bipolar?

00:54:50.240 And when were you told that in 2015?

00:54:52.040 I was told that by a Jewish doctor and the information was put out by a Jewish Hollywood

00:54:59.240 trainer to the Jewish media.

00:55:01.940 And actually the day when they put me in the hospital, I had started reading the Bible

00:55:09.780 really heavy and rewriting Bible verses.

00:55:13.800 And when the Jewish trainer saw, and you're like looking like, well, that sounds pretty 1.00

00:55:17.900 bipolar, but the Jewish trainer saw that, put me in the hospital and then said, and then

00:55:33.420 put it in the press.

00:55:35.160 And the press being TMZ broke it.

00:55:36.980 Yeah.

00:55:37.600 I don't remember.

00:55:38.560 I was in the hospital.

00:55:39.120 Right.

00:55:40.900 And why were you in the hospital?

00:55:43.160 Exhaustion.

00:55:43.840 Yeah.

00:55:44.000 I was going to say, you don't sleep much.

00:55:45.860 I mean, we don't sleep much.

00:55:47.780 I actually do sleep a lot.

00:55:49.120 It's my favorite thing.

00:55:52.580 That's Trump saying, oh, I'm sure you don't sleep much, but I do.

00:55:55.480 I sleep like six hours, seven hours.

00:55:58.000 I mean, anytime I disagree with the norm, people say, well, are you getting sleep?

00:56:02.900 They're so concerned about my health.

00:56:06.700 Because as soon as you put out that you have a mental illness, it becomes this thing where

00:56:10.220 they can just stigmatize everything you do.

00:56:11.940 Everything, they can discredit it, but what happens when, you know, everyone's wearing

00:56:18.700 Yeezys or what happens when, you know, we change a color palette or a shape of something,

00:56:24.920 a shape of a shoe, a shape of something in apparel?

00:56:27.840 What happens when we change the look of homes?

00:56:29.520 What happens when we simplify the way we think and the way we communicate, you know?

00:56:35.100 Then, you know, who needs sleep?

00:56:37.720 And you take something like Moses, I always tell people, Moses was on speed and he stuttered

00:56:44.680 or ketidin or whatever they called it, whatever that would have been, the biblical version of

00:56:48.320 that.

00:56:48.940 But God had something for him to do.

00:56:51.320 And this is a God's dream, right?

00:56:53.700 This is something for me to do.

00:56:55.080 When God is on, God is on our side.

00:57:01.420 It's God's time.

00:57:03.420 This is why we're on this platform.

00:57:06.220 This is why God provided.

00:57:07.920 How is it that, you know, God told me, go to Nashville right now.

00:57:13.440 And, you know, Kid Rock, he was leaving out of town.

00:57:17.540 If Kid Rock had been in town, I would have went by his house to hang out and go to the

00:57:21.320 studio.

00:57:21.980 But because he was out of town, when you landed, we were here and they were telling you as you

00:57:28.600 were landing that I was not allowed on the Daily Wire.

00:57:32.140 And that's God guiding our path.

00:57:35.000 That's how the video game of life works.

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00:58:30.660 Disney got the line for Snow White.

00:58:34.740 If you look at how thin the black line are on the Disney characters in the original movie

00:58:40.020 that came from a French artist he was working with.

00:58:41.980 Similar to me working on apparel and getting a European designer to give that cut on something.

00:58:53.120 Or even like the biggest company in the world is an American company, but the lead designer

00:59:00.540 was from London.

00:59:02.200 It was Johnny Ives.

00:59:02.940 So it's that mix of those that we got to look at all the talent on the planet and bring them

00:59:11.720 into the American companies.

00:59:13.740 The American companies are the super forces.

00:59:16.500 That's PayPal, McDonald's, Amazon, Google, Apple.

00:59:22.900 And it's like, and now, you know, what Yeezy is slated to become.

00:59:30.060 Because Yeezy's got one of the two most compelling founders living.

00:59:39.940 You know, the other one is Elon.

00:59:42.140 So that's us.

00:59:44.540 It's like Yelon to save the world.

00:59:47.160 Yelon or Yelon or however you want a word.

00:59:50.140 I saw that actually up today, it's for us to, you know, come together.

00:59:55.120 What's so good is like Elon, actually, he illegally can't become president.

01:00:04.180 So that means that at a certain point, like I have to be president, you know, and to empower.

01:00:11.500 It's like, it's crazy.

01:00:12.720 It's like the current, the Biden menstruation, the Biden menstruation.

01:00:22.220 So the current Biden menstruation won't even talk to Elon, won't even speak to Elon. 0.65

01:00:31.900 Like, wait, what?

01:00:33.220 What?

01:00:33.560 Because he's, what?

01:00:36.400 Not staying in line.

01:00:38.220 And that's the thing is like, I feel like they say that to everybody.

01:00:40.760 And I get, being called crazy when you're not crazy will drive you crazy, right?

01:00:46.760 I was being driven crazy by the fact that every time they picked up an article, they just kept, like, this is when I called you.

01:00:52.120 I'm like, they just keep calling him crazy.

01:00:53.880 And with Elon, it's like different attacks, but it's consistently saying stuff that isn't true.

01:00:59.040 And then you have everybody else, like the masses repeating stuff that isn't true.

01:01:03.060 You know what I mean?

01:01:03.940 And I just don't understand why I get frustrated.

01:01:06.580 It's like, how much more success can you have before they stop?

01:01:11.500 Right.

01:01:12.080 Well, that shows you they won't because it, my success, it's the success that will happen is this is the success, having our own platform.

01:01:20.980 So it's not up to Twitter.

01:01:26.820 I mean, now it's still on Apple currently, you know, it's still on Apple and it's still under the satellites.

01:01:36.180 So there's a bit more freedom.

01:01:39.080 We're just at a different level of the video game.

01:01:41.880 You know what I mean?

01:01:42.260 It's just like, it's still some mountains to climb.

01:01:48.700 What I'm really big on, I want to talk about is in our sleepy cast, the, and I'm gonna go get some sleep.

01:01:58.360 Is what I touched on it before.

01:02:00.640 Maybe we can cut this to, to, to work together, but to bring people together, the left, we always talk about the left, the left and right.

01:02:10.440 Well, we're one body.

01:02:12.660 We have a left and right.

01:02:14.620 So we're really big.

01:02:15.760 Like right now, the left is fighting against the right.

01:02:18.160 And that's like, if I was going like this, my left hand and my right hand, we have to fight together for our species, for humanity.

01:02:25.600 Because the right has some great things and the left have some great things also, like the left, I was really good at media, you know, so, and the left is not, they're not happy with the Biden administration either.

01:02:41.840 And we, we have an opportunity to really win the hearts of the left also, you know, it's that, I'm really big on like when I made stronger, Nicole Schorsinger from Pussycat Dolls was dancing to it up and down record plant studio.

01:02:59.340 But then when I played it for Ice Pick, it was one of the executives at Rough Riders that's rest in peace passed away.

01:03:05.960 When he heard it, he put his nose up, like he said, the whole thing sound like that.

01:03:09.720 And he wasn't into it.

01:03:11.000 So I had this challenge of making stronger, which is now a diamond, it's my biggest song of all time.

01:03:16.660 It's a diamond record.

01:03:18.000 Be able to play on Hot 97, Hot 97 rhyme ready.

01:03:22.500 I knew it was going to play on B96, but how do we, which is a white pop station, but how does it play on Hot 97?

01:03:29.340 Which was like ran by Jay-Z and not ran by him, but he was the most common voice on it at that time.

01:03:38.040 And that's the thing to be able to, there is a way to appeal to both sides and find that place, that place of happiness.

01:03:48.620 There are things, there's things where like Trump and Biden had a lot of places where they aligned when I looked at their policies.

01:03:57.660 So I'm really interested in really bringing happiness back to the world, bringing joy back to the world.

01:04:07.080 But we have to call people on what they're doing for there to be happiness in the world.

01:04:15.020 We can't just say, oh, it's okay for people to like super complicate deals and to collude on deals and to not look at us as human beings, as artists and athletes and actors, that we have to be willing to like stand up for that to be able to change something.

01:04:31.720 And we need to come together as a society to be, to be the first civilization that actually became civil, you know, to stop war.

01:04:42.620 Like people, it's a possibility of having a worldless world where the human species is not at war with each other, but we are more sophisticated because of social media, because of the information that we have now.

01:05:02.200 And we just, we got to have people like us and God using us to push that to the next side.

01:05:09.720 And we got to get control of our country.

01:05:11.640 We have to get control of our family.

01:05:13.560 And right now there has been an agenda in the media and in politics to remove God, remove the family and to remove our country from us.

01:05:23.280 So it's, it's time for us to take control again and with God's, with God and God's on our side.

01:05:30.180 So that's, what's going to happen.

01:05:31.500 I've got faith in that, in Jesus name.

01:05:34.320 Amen.

01:05:34.980 Amen.

01:05:36.760 There it is.

01:05:37.540 Yeah.

01:05:38.280 That was like presidential towards the end.

01:05:40.320 Right.

01:05:40.660 We could put some music.

01:05:43.020 What kind of music you want to put with that?

01:05:45.040 And I'm proud to be an American.

01:05:48.020 Yeah.

01:05:48.580 And they start.

01:05:49.700 It needs something like that.

01:05:50.660 Because I, you know, I think about my boy, Mike Howe.

01:05:52.960 This is the guys that told me to go speak on Fox on The Gap when they were like making it look really bad on the floor.

01:05:57.880 And that's what started it.

01:05:59.100 And now then it's like, boom, MSNBC and so on and so on and so on and so on.

01:06:04.020 And we just keep on speaking up.

01:06:05.740 And this, I feel like there's stuff that we did tonight.

01:06:10.060 Do you want to do any other things that you want to put it?

01:06:12.260 Just because we can do, do, do, do, do.

01:06:14.020 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:15.360 I'll move everything.

01:06:17.120 I mean, that was, I had a list of things that I wanted to talk to you about.

01:06:19.920 I mean, we got more to go.

01:06:21.540 We should do one of these a week.

01:06:22.640 That's what I'm saying.

01:06:24.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:06:24.640 We should just start doing this once a week.

01:06:26.380 You know what I'm saying?

01:06:29.360 I'm, um.

01:06:30.300 Yeah, because I want to talk to you like another podcast about like the war on men.

01:06:35.460 You know, I want to talk to you about drinking.

01:06:38.520 Yeah, think about a drink chapter that I was promoting.

01:06:40.820 Yeah.

01:06:41.700 But do you want to hear something?

01:06:42.640 Like, did you know the word alcohol?

01:06:46.120 It's like.

01:06:46.440 It's like the spirit of our Kool-Aid.

01:06:47.800 Yes.

01:06:48.380 Absolutely.

01:06:48.880 You knew that?

01:06:49.860 Yes.

01:06:50.260 I believe that.

01:06:51.560 It is. 0.99

01:06:52.280 It kills you.

01:06:52.500 It literally, yeah, kills your spirit and allows demons to come in.

01:06:56.880 You know what I mean?

01:06:58.040 And take over.

01:06:59.080 I 100% believe that.

01:07:01.020 I was, I can say this since this is our podcast.

01:07:03.200 I definitely was drinking when I put up the Def Con treat.

01:07:08.300 I definitely, you know, I had, you know, uh, who's, um, uh, I want to say alcohol I had

01:07:14.860 inside me, but I don't know.

01:07:16.860 Hennessy.

01:07:18.420 Wow.

01:07:18.860 It's interesting.

01:07:21.020 Hennessy.

01:07:22.060 It turns us gray.

01:07:24.040 And literally the demons.

01:07:25.920 Just come in.

01:07:27.080 Yeah.

01:07:27.440 No, I honestly, I was fascinated when I learned that, the history of that.

01:07:30.120 And it's literally because when you drink, you become a different person.

01:07:32.600 It's almost literally like a spirit has taken over you.

01:07:34.860 That's why they call them spirits.

01:07:36.100 Did you know that?

01:07:36.600 That's why they call them spirits.

01:07:38.060 Yes, absolutely.

01:07:39.460 That's crazy.

01:07:40.460 How come we didn't put that information out earlier that you were drinking?

01:07:44.180 I don't know.

01:07:45.040 Nobody asked.

01:07:46.000 Well, no, because I didn't want to discredit.

01:07:48.660 Oh, here we go.

01:07:49.520 They'll be like, oh, now every time he tweets, he's drunk, you know?

01:07:52.500 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:53.280 Because it keeps on like taking away the fact of what I was like saying or what I was about

01:08:00.100 to do.

01:08:00.420 And also sometimes the truth comes through because it's another way to discredit, right?

01:08:03.980 This thing right here, we've got some stuff in it.

01:08:07.520 The temperament of it, the lighting, the feel, the two people that are here doing it.

01:08:11.760 Because we've been waiting for this one.

01:08:13.180 This is the one.

01:08:14.220 And this is the one that needs to be on Parla as the first God cast, as the Sleepy cast, 0.67

01:08:22.040 the Dreamcast.

01:08:24.180 Dreamcast!

01:08:25.040 Dreamcast.

01:08:25.980 Dreamcast.

01:08:26.480 I used to like that.

01:08:27.340 It was like Sega had a Dreamcast.

01:08:28.880 Yeah, I know.

01:08:29.360 I used to play on it.

01:08:30.080 Sonic.

01:08:30.780 What?

01:08:31.320 Yeah.

01:08:32.160 I love Sonic too.

01:08:33.580 Sonic is just a bomb game.

01:08:35.240 That and Donkey Kong on Nintendo.

01:08:37.320 You know what?

01:08:38.200 Donkey Kong on Nintendo was like another level.

01:08:40.480 The old school when you're like put there.

01:08:41.780 Yeah, we need to, I like to talk and play video games because a lot of times the podcast is very like you can't do something at the same time.

01:08:47.360 That was too complicated.

01:08:48.260 Xbox ruined everything.

01:08:49.640 Yeah.

01:08:49.960 Just too many buttons.

01:08:50.980 That's what I'm saying.

01:08:51.940 We need to go and play.

01:08:55.740 I mean, you made like the newer, like the Nintendo Switch has a Sonic that I just, I used to meditate in this during COVID, during the pandemic.

01:09:04.780 During the pandemic, during the pandemic, the, I, I used to meditate to Sega.

01:09:11.760 What are you saying?

01:09:12.400 Yeah.

01:09:12.680 I used to meditate in video games.

01:09:14.540 And it's funny.

01:09:15.020 I would watch like WALL-E over and over and over and over.

01:09:18.500 And I had a cousin that just, just reads a lot and they were like, I got a husband that reads a lot.

01:09:25.360 And he was just so mad at me that I just kept on watching the same movies over and over.

01:09:29.600 But if I like a movie, like I'm watching Norsemen right now, it's about these Viking slaves that overcome things.

01:09:35.800 And it's, you know, I don't know what God's plan is for me.

01:09:42.080 A Norseman, they fight to the death, but I'm willing, you know, I'm willing to give my life for what God calls me to do.

01:09:49.340 But I think it'd be cool to have a podcast where we're playing video games on a really big screen and then we're just talking.

01:09:57.420 I also feel like, you know, my, my kids like to watch people play video games.

01:10:02.400 That's the weirdest thing ever to me.

01:10:03.960 That's a whole culture.

01:10:04.920 So you're, you're brothers like that.

01:10:07.100 You do the same thing.

01:10:08.700 I'm like, this is weirdo.

01:10:12.380 Watch it.

01:10:13.000 So we're playing video games.

01:10:15.500 That's actually going to pull it.

01:10:16.940 Imagine being able to even attract the entire video game community as voters.

01:10:23.760 Right.

01:10:24.400 Attract them on the parlor too, but it's true.

01:10:26.800 Yeah.

01:10:27.020 They like me, by the way, the gamers love Candace Owens. 0.97

01:10:29.900 I stood up for them with the BS.

01:10:31.100 The original Me Too was Gamergate, but that's a way deeper.

01:10:35.220 Lower, like thing that people can't even talk about.

01:10:37.160 The gamers get what I just said with that, but that was the original Me Too.

01:10:40.260 And that's what brought me to my awakening.

01:10:41.600 So I like the gamer community.

01:10:43.140 But the only thing is like, what game would we play?

01:10:46.780 That's a serious question.

01:10:48.100 Life.

01:10:48.600 The game of life.

01:10:49.420 No, no, no, no, no.

01:10:50.340 It has to be like a good video game.

01:10:51.660 You know what I'm saying?

01:10:52.260 Like it's gotta be one of the old ones.

01:10:53.560 It has to be like Donkey Kong or something.

01:10:55.620 Yeah.

01:10:56.120 Like I don't want to play freaking Grand Theft Auto.

01:10:58.180 So I see that's what you want to play.

01:11:01.480 I'm not big, big Grand Theft Auto.

01:11:03.660 I mean, life is Grand Theft Auto.

01:11:04.920 I'm not, I'm not, we're in Grand Theft Auto.

01:11:07.360 Right.

01:11:07.800 That's the closest to the simulation of our life.

01:11:11.440 That and the Bible itself.

01:11:14.460 If you think it was like simulation theory and the Bible itself, it's like, okay, if you pick your character, you're going to make the character in your image.

01:11:20.780 Yeah.

01:11:21.440 That's how the Bible starts.

01:11:22.680 Right.

01:11:23.140 That's exactly what it is.

01:11:23.960 So I'm just envisioning where this God cast or this dream, sleepy cast or this dream cast can go.

01:11:32.460 You know, I'm like ideating and envisioning the next frontier of where this is, but I'm just overwhelmed by what, you know, God has done for me today.

01:11:46.720 I'm just, I'm happier than I've ever been.

01:11:50.940 All right, guys.

01:11:51.380 So there you have it.

01:11:52.540 So many thoughts probably racing through your head.

01:11:54.560 It's kind of a weird thing.

01:11:55.640 The outside was so loud, the media, the headlines, the screaming.

01:11:59.640 And yet this moment, I am grateful to God for it because it was kind of the eye of the storm.

01:12:06.220 And I think a lot of the stuff that he said was extremely valid.

01:12:11.500 And I look forward to hearing what you have to say.

01:12:15.300 And yeah, I'm grateful.

01:12:17.120 I believe that the only solution is more speech, not less.

01:12:22.780 And I hope that you carry that attitude with you because it's the only way we're ever going to get closer to truth.

01:12:31.240 See you guys tomorrow.

01:12:32.180 See you guys tomorrow.

Candace Owens - August 07, 2024

Kanye West (Ye) x Candace Owens ｜ Candace Ep 42

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