Candace Owens - LIVE With Victor Marx： What Did He Know About 9⧸10？｜ Candace Ep 341

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. At least we hope it's going to be a happy Tuesday. We all

00:00:04.820 have our fingers crossed for Thomas Massey down in Kentucky. Let's go, Thomas Massey. We'll see

00:00:10.300 what happens. We got to start today with some sad news, some very sad news this morning because we

00:00:15.140 are still being ghosted by the White House. I don't know why. It seems very weird. White House

00:00:21.160 press team does not want to respond about that email. Is it real? Yes or no? I'm hurting. I slept

00:00:27.120 with Brigitte Dahl last night. That's what I do when I'm having a really bad day. It's okay though

00:00:31.340 because what we've done is we have since filed an FOIA request for the relative White House

00:00:36.680 correspondence dinner emails. I think we're going to get lucky. Anyway, for today, we're not going

00:00:42.880 to focus on that. Instead, we are going to bring you a conversation with the man, the myth, the

00:00:47.300 legend, Victor Marks, gubernatorial candidate for Colorado. A fascinating guy, right? You got to

00:00:53.680 just admit, he's fascinating. Another, dare I say, troubled faith leader tied to Turning Point USA.

00:01:00.360 I mean, this could be the dawn of a new series. Fantastic Pastors and Where to Find Them. Welcome

00:01:07.120 back to Candace. Okay, so we're not exactly burying the lead. As I said today, we are going

00:01:26.100 to be joined by Victor Marks, Colorado's gubernatorial candidate. But I want to at first

00:01:30.980 provide you with the refresher about who he is and why I am interested in him. So Victor Marks

00:01:38.220 is very much a part of the Turning Point Faith Orbit. He is apparently extraordinarily close

00:01:45.160 to Erica Kirk, right? So much so that he was the first that we could find to publicly announce that

00:01:51.140 Charlie Kirk had passed away on September 10th on social media. I believe it was on Instagram.

00:01:56.540 It was an hour and a half before the president of the United States made the announcement, even though he has since deleted that Instagram post.

00:02:05.440 We then know that when Erica came home after bringing back Charlie's body in a casket aboard Air Force Two, Victor Marks and his wife Eileen were among the small circle of people who were welcomed into Erica's home to comfort her and to take photos of the grieving widow.

00:02:25.780 So eventually those photos were shared on the Internet.

00:02:29.280 Now, I am also informed that he presented her with a bulletproof car, transportation.

00:02:35.100 He alluded to that in the Instagram post, getting her home, providing transportation to keep her and her children safe.

00:02:42.500 We can ask him about that.

00:02:43.580 And shortly thereafter, Victor Marks announced that he was running for governor of Colorado, a calling that he felt came from God in the wake of Charlie's assassination.

00:02:54.240 but who actually is Victor Marks.

00:02:56.640 I'm getting old, you're getting old.

00:02:58.320 Our memory is fuzzy.

00:02:59.420 Let me give you a little bit of a recap.

00:03:01.480 I've already told you his real name is Von Victor Kennedy.

00:03:04.600 That's his birth name, at least.

00:03:06.360 And he has told a lot of stories about his childhood,

00:03:09.440 namely surrounding his stepfather, Gloyce Dean Kennedy,

00:03:13.600 abuse that he says that he endured at the hands of Gloyce,

00:03:17.840 which that abuse began when Victor was just three years old.

00:03:21.280 I'm going to show you more about what he says about that in a bit.

00:03:23.280 What we do know about his stepfather is that Gloyce did serve in the army doing counterintelligence. He then pled guilty to a conspiracy to running an international drug smuggling ring, marijuana, out of Jamaica. Victor's brother, Mike Kennedy, also pled guilty as a co-conspirator, but he took a plea deal in exchange for testifying against his stepfather.

00:03:48.460 Viktor Marx's biological dad was Karl Marx.

00:03:51.920 What a name.

00:03:53.060 He was a pimp, a drug dealer, and a world-famous martial arts expert.

00:03:57.740 I am told Viktor Marx is, in fact, very good at martial arts, by the way.

00:04:02.380 Now, in terms of his biological father, his biological father spent time in a mental hospital for homicidal tendencies,

00:04:10.280 something that Viktor Marx has expressed that he has experienced as well during a period of his life.

00:04:17.500 Victor's grandfather, I told you, killed his grandmother.

00:04:23.320 So his grandfather killed his grandmother in a public murder-suicide.

00:04:28.520 You're going to hear about Victor Marx's life.

00:04:31.880 Some highlights, I would say.

00:04:33.800 Age three, beheaded a cat.

00:04:36.100 Age seven, Victor Marx killed his first person because his stepdaddy told him to.

00:04:40.920 By the time he was 17, he had lived in 17 homes and attended 14 schools,

00:04:45.680 was involved with drugs, fights, and theft in high school at 18. Victor joined the Marine Corps,

00:04:51.700 served for two years before he was discharged. At 21, he says he found Jesus, and he started

00:04:57.840 attending Calvary Chapel Church, my favorite church, babe. All right, 10 out of 10, Calvary

00:05:05.200 Chapel Church, definitely the pastors. At 23, Victor married his wife Eileen, Eileen breeding

00:05:12.740 Marks, and they went on to have five kids and grandkids. In 2003, he and his brother began

00:05:19.800 All Things Possible ministries. In 2023, Eileen's brother, Kenneth Brining, tried to shoot Victor

00:05:28.560 Marks on Victor's property. Fortunately, Victor survived that, but Eileen's brother would go on

00:05:34.540 to kill his own girlfriend. Not really sure what's going on with this family, but it's a lot.

00:05:39.780 But like I said, he announced his candidacy for governor of Colorado on October 1st.

00:05:45.640 So that's the reason why his background is now being called into question.

00:05:50.360 It's quite mysterious.

00:05:51.880 And he began teasing that run at the memorial service for Charlie Kirk just four days after

00:05:57.940 Charlie's death.

00:05:59.180 By the way, you don't have to take these biographical items from me.

00:06:03.160 You can also hear Victor Marks.

00:06:05.000 He has not been shy about sharing his story.

00:06:07.380 take a listen to him

00:06:09.360 tell about

00:06:10.640 how he grew up

00:06:12.160 I remember sitting on the ground

00:06:14.840 with my arms still tied to the bedpost

00:06:17.540 and then he brought

00:06:19.560 an animal in

00:06:21.420 a dead cat

00:06:22.240 and he had a knife and he said 0.99

00:06:24.260 I want you to cut the head off this cat 0.99

00:06:26.660 and I was terrified 1.00

00:06:29.280 and he said 1.00

00:06:31.380 if you don't I'll cut your head off 1.00

00:06:33.320 so 1.00

00:06:34.520 at three?

00:06:35.720 yeah about three and a half

00:06:36.900 I used a knife, cut the cat's head off, and then he put the carcass on my head and blood dripped down on me.

00:06:44.640 So that was the first really memory that I have of what would be the beginning of a lot of abuse.

00:06:52.300 My stepfather, he put one hand on my wrist, and he put his finger over my trigger finger.

00:06:58.740 And then he pushed, and I pulled, and I shot the guy in his head, and it killed him. 0.87

00:07:06.900 and he shoved them in the hole, and he buried them. 0.90

00:07:10.560 He wrapped the pistol with a handkerchief,

00:07:13.900 and he said, if you ever tell anybody what I've done,

00:07:18.220 he said, I know where this body is.

00:07:21.620 And he said, I'll tell the police,

00:07:24.240 it's your fingerprints on this pistol.

00:07:27.340 And he says, they'll arrest you.

00:07:29.340 They'll put you in prison.

00:07:31.140 I remember being at a morgue, again, wrapped to a chair,

00:07:33.900 and watching them dismember a corpse

00:07:37.860 and then watching them burn it.

00:07:42.120 And I've dealt with thousands of demons now, thousands, easily.

00:07:47.340 I've had demons speak to me through people.

00:07:50.360 Had one just start saying, I'm effing. 1.00

00:07:53.100 I will effing kill you. 1.00

00:07:54.540 I will murder you. 1.00

00:07:55.660 I'm like, shut up. 1.00

00:07:57.580 No, you won't. 1.00

00:07:58.040 You're being judged right now.

00:08:00.580 Stop using this man's voice.

00:08:01.960 over 100 missions complete.

00:08:04.760 Would trauma care or help

00:08:06.320 over 45,000 women and children? 0.93

00:08:08.540 Gene, because of our access 0.99

00:08:10.120 and our relationships

00:08:11.800 with the special operating community

00:08:13.900 and the IDF,

00:08:15.300 they took us in the places

00:08:16.500 no one could go.

00:08:18.260 And they showed us things 1.00

00:08:20.340 that Hamas and many Palestinians

00:08:24.320 would say is just propaganda or a lie. 0.99

00:08:27.660 I let him hold a grenade

00:08:30.000 for his birthday. 1.00

00:08:31.960 This guy's trying to kill me. 1.00

00:08:33.240 If he comes out of the trailer and he takes that corner, I'm going to kill him. 1.00

00:08:36.780 Please prepare yourself. 1.00

00:08:38.160 And I remember her going, what?

00:08:41.540 They diagnosed me with bipolar 2, ultradipid cycler, and put me in a lot of meds.

00:08:47.060 There wasn't any help or hope beyond that.

00:08:49.540 I was just spinning.

00:08:50.960 Suicidal, homicidal.

00:08:52.100 On the medications, I was suicidal and probably more homicidal.

00:08:56.980 now i would be remiss if i didn't also add that victor marx is very much involved in human

00:09:04.380 trafficking charity all around the world because all of erica kirk's dearest friends are as i've

00:09:09.460 mentioned on this show it just seems to be one of the running themes anyway as you know we hosted

00:09:14.800 corby hall who claimed that victor marx was doing some deals or attempting to do some deals on behalf

00:09:20.920 of the IDF. He never said those deals were illegal, just that he declined to participate in

00:09:26.940 them, trying to buy 50,000 guns for the IDF. We'll ask Victor Marx about that. Now, his relationship,

00:09:35.340 Victor Marx's relationship with the IDF is not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact.

00:09:39.340 As you just heard him speak about it, we have also confirmed that Victor Marx conducts this

00:09:44.940 quote-unquote retooling prayer where he claims that he is able to summon demons into a room

00:09:50.960 out of a person's body on more than just Corby Hall and his wife, on other people as well. In

00:09:57.740 fact, I am told that he was once conducting such prayers at the Turning Point USA headquarter

00:10:04.380 office. So that's an interesting thing. And this is odd because Victor Marks is not a pastor,

00:10:10.080 actually. He has claimed to be a pastor throughout the years, according to many people. Proof of that

00:10:16.900 exists on his own website, by the way. It used to say that he was a husband, a father, a U.S.

00:10:22.840 Marine, a pastor. That has since been quietly removed. Now, Corby Hall, you should know,

00:10:29.420 is one of many people who have accused Viktor Marks of abuse. When these allegations tend to

00:10:35.520 arrive, Victor Marks always rebuts them with the same line. The person making the allegations is

00:10:41.800 troubled. He was just trying to help them or rescue them from themselves. Corby Hall, he has

00:10:47.520 said, has mental issues. There are other people outside of Corby Hall. For example, a young woman 0.94

00:10:53.800 named Holly Chalmers accused him of kidnapping her across state lines and of exploiting her.

00:11:01.780 Victor Marks claims that he was actually rescuing her from her pedophile boyfriend.

00:11:07.280 This is what she had to say in her own words.

00:11:09.880 Take a listen.

00:11:11.520 What do you want our listeners to know about Victor Marks, the man that you believe that he is, and the experience that you had with him?

00:11:19.800 I believe that he's the trafficker himself.

00:11:25.560 That's interesting, because that's a question we've been asking on this show.

00:11:28.540 all of these trafficking charities, what are they involved in themselves? I don't know.

00:11:34.020 Anyway, Victor Marx's own son wrote a letter to the board on a company that Victor was a part of,

00:11:41.160 accusing his father of abusing both him and his sister. Victor Marx's daughter made multiple

00:11:48.320 social media posts confirming that he was in fact an abusive father, despite her not

00:11:53.860 having wanted the information to be publicized in the first place.

00:11:58.240 Here's a sample of what she wrote on social media.

00:12:00.640 She wrote,

00:12:01.480 On April 26th of this year, a letter was sent to my dad's board

00:12:04.700 sharing detailed events revealing that I experienced abuse

00:12:07.840 at the hands of my father for many years

00:12:10.000 and that there needed to be accountability

00:12:11.820 and financial restitution was being recommended.

00:12:14.960 I had no idea about this letter,

00:12:16.160 and I would even do a lie detector test to prove that.

00:12:19.840 There was zero intention of the letter

00:12:21.380 and the private matters to be made public.

00:12:23.600 That was even stated in the letter.

00:12:24.940 My parents did not handle this letter well

00:12:26.900 and immediately requested the requests in the letter

00:12:30.120 to be retracted or there would be

00:12:32.260 quote-unquote consequences.

00:12:34.200 My dad's CEO reached out to me

00:12:36.280 after my father's request for this to be retracted,

00:12:39.320 offering me $55,000 as essentially be quiet money.

00:12:44.000 I declined the offer and requested

00:12:45.720 that we all do intense family therapy and intervention.

00:12:49.360 Now to be clear, she eventually is going to recant

00:12:52.380 many of these allegations. But her friends privately emailed this show and asserted that,

00:12:58.800 no, she was telling the truth about her father and her upbringing, and that it was only due to

00:13:03.100 financial pressure and control that Viktor Marks apparently, allegedly holds over her life in the

00:13:09.200 wake of her divorce from her husband that she is singing a different tune publicly. I cannot

00:13:13.680 confirm that. We're not speaking to his daughter today. We're speaking to Viktor Marks. We can only

00:13:18.120 confirm that abuse allegations tend to follow Victor Marx both at home and abroad. Now, we have

00:13:24.920 also been contacted, I should say, by family members of Victor Marx himself who claim that

00:13:31.340 his entire backstory of stuff he is saying about his stepfather simply is not true. He was not

00:13:36.680 forced to kill anybody, that there are no bodies in the backyards of their farms, and that his

00:13:43.340 stepfather Gloyce was indeed a crazy man, but he did not abuse those kids.

00:13:48.720 Fortunately, like I said, we will be joined by Victor Marks himself when we get back from break.

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00:16:01.880 all right you guys let's bring in victor marx victor marx welcome to the candace show how are

00:16:08.600 you doing i'm doing good candace and thank you for joining me i'm sorry that uh i missed your

00:16:13.940 message that came back to me on i think it was april 22nd um i know we were pinging over instagram

00:16:18.500 but i'm glad that you could join us today um i'd like to guide this conversation sort of in order

00:16:24.000 meaning starting a little bit with your background i think i have a lot of questions about some of

00:16:28.600 the stories that you've shared. And I was able to speak to some of your family members, and they

00:16:33.600 seem to have some questions about some of the biographical items that you share. So just

00:16:38.360 beginning with, I think, sort of the inflection points, this story about beheading a cat and

00:16:44.860 wearing its head at the age of three. I mean, it's not an easy thing to behead a cat. I have a lot

00:16:50.700 of toddlers. Do you stand by that? Well, let's start with, I think, what's most relevant right

00:16:57.840 now are the latest accusations by your last guest, Corby, which is, I think, what brought us

00:17:04.740 together on this whole issue. In what we're going to discuss in the time I'm giving you

00:17:12.400 freely to talk about some things, are you willing to admit when you're wrong or you've been

00:17:19.580 misguided? So, Victor, just so you know, you're on my show, I'm not on yours. So, I'm going to

00:17:24.340 guide the conversation, I said I'm happy to speak about Corby. There are broader concerns, actually,

00:17:29.440 the way that my highest interest in you is obviously as it relates to Charlie Kirk and

00:17:34.380 your involvement with Turning Point USA. I realize that. And you're right. We can speak

00:17:39.700 about Corby, but this isn't your stage. So respectfully, I do want to, you are running

00:17:45.980 for governor. So I think your biography is important. Obviously, the Corby Hall stuff

00:17:50.660 is important and if something is wrong, we're happy to correct it. We did invite you to come

00:17:54.560 on the show with Corby, which we asked you to do because that made the most sense because you guys

00:17:59.060 could rebut each other face-to-face. You declined to do that. So Corby had the stage for himself and

00:18:04.140 I could not offer a rebuttal because I wasn't there for the conversations. So the answer is

00:18:09.660 yes, but I want to start with your biographical items. Do you stand by that story, that inflection

00:18:14.240 point. Candace, we have to start with what brought me here, which is Corby. And I clearly

00:18:21.840 communicated to you and your staff, do not have him on, do your research because he's unstable.

00:18:28.500 And the very person that platformed him for you, Corby has filled out a statement, both with local

00:18:35.540 authorities and FBI, that he is homicidal. And he told her and her husband that he had plans to kill

00:18:43.220 me, and she felt responsible for it being fueled. And your name was brought up as he's aggravated

00:18:50.560 something about he didn't get what he wanted out of your show. But I need you to at least

00:18:56.140 acknowledge, did Corey contact y'all, not Corby, but did Corey contact y'all with the concerns of

00:19:02.720 not platforming Corby again? Well, you brought up a homicidal. That's actually something that you

00:19:09.040 just said in the clip that we just showed that you yourself have had homicidal thoughts. Do you

00:19:13.640 still have homicidal thoughts? Or is that a period in your life? That was a long time ago, and I'm

00:19:19.040 thankful I didn't. But currently, this gentleman is being sought by the FBI and El Paso County

00:19:25.260 Sheriff's Department, who admitted to Corey, the individual who platformed him on your show,

00:19:32.540 that he was struggling with homicidal thoughts, and he gave detailed plans on how he was going to

00:19:37.600 lay in wait to kill me.

00:19:39.920 Are you and your staff familiar? 0.96

00:19:40.520 Well, that's not anything

00:19:41.600 that we have heard on this show.

00:19:42.840 So like I said,

00:19:43.420 we can't rebut on that.

00:19:44.380 We received only a message from Corey

00:19:46.360 that she got a phone call from the FBI

00:19:48.240 and that they were investigating you

00:19:49.800 for gun running.

00:19:50.720 Did she inform you of this?

00:19:51.880 I don't know.

00:19:52.840 I would really like to go back

00:19:53.780 to the biographical items, though,

00:19:55.320 of your life.

00:19:56.340 I don't want to get into

00:19:57.480 background investigations.

00:19:59.460 I was not contacted by the FBI.

00:20:01.260 I can't verify it.

00:20:02.460 And as I said,

00:20:03.020 we can discuss Corby's allegations.

00:20:05.500 But I would like to begin with just

00:20:07.600 the cat. Did you behead the cat at the age of three? Do you stand by that story?

00:20:13.400 Did your team view social media as y'all are a quasi-investigative team by all your allegations?

00:20:21.560 Did you see Corey's public statement about what happened and how this is very serious?

00:20:29.120 They cannot locate this individual. You platform, Corby Hall, and both his wife.

00:20:35.380 Victor, I just have to rebut you here and say that I don't necessarily trust what you are saying, given the fact that you don't want to answer just basic biological questions.

00:20:45.460 And after having spoken with your family members who say that it's largely made up, I have no reason to believe anything that you're saying right now.

00:20:52.560 So I'd like to just kind of focus on your character. We can talk about Corby. I have nothing to do with any pending investigations.

00:20:58.160 I have not been contacted by law enforcement. So I'm not interested in having a discussion about information that I don't have.

00:21:05.380 Candace, you seem to be a little afraid of truth, and what I once thought was a solid show years ago, you've turned this into a TMZ, and worse than TMZ, it's like a TMU version of it.

00:21:19.580 I'm asking you, did your staff not see the statement that Corey Kennedy posted online?

00:21:26.660 We're talking about a homicidal individual who has threatened to kill me, and your name was brought up in this?

00:21:32.900 I have answered your question. I have not seen it. So I cannot have a conversation with you about that. What I can have a conversation with you about is the statements that you have publicly made since you are joining the show. And I would like to focus on your biographical items, because as I said, I've spoken with your family in Martinville, and they claim that your stories are fantastical.

00:21:51.760 So I'm just asking you, and we can then get into some questions about the alleged gun sales that you were trying to conduct with Corby, which is what we discussed on the show and which we have seen evidence for.

00:22:04.680 I cannot speak to you about something, a report that I have not seen that you claim is happening.

00:22:09.320 And I would like to just kind of get you focused here because you're running for governor.

00:22:12.860 I just wanted that on the record.

00:22:13.560 I don't think that Corby, I don't think that Corby Hall is going to be your number one issue.

00:22:18.320 Thank you.

00:22:18.820 But Corby is my number one issue right now.

00:22:22.200 This is your number one issue for the state of Colorado?

00:22:25.220 Corby is the number one issue right now who's homicidal and admitted he wanted to kill me and how he was going to do it.

00:22:33.940 That's why authorities are looking for him.

00:22:35.660 Well, I would just like to say to people that are watching this, I cannot confirm anything that Victor Marks is saying.

00:22:41.100 I have not said it.

00:22:41.820 I think he is using my platform to potentially spin some tails.

00:22:46.060 The only thing that I heard was that there was an FBI investigation that was looking into you for guns, and that's all I've heard, and I'm not interested in that.

00:22:54.940 I would like to now, since you have the stage, focus on you as a gubernatorial candidate and your background.

00:23:00.160 And so if I could go back to that yes or no question, do you stand by this story that you beheaded a cat at the age of three?

00:23:07.200 Of course I do.

00:23:08.360 But we're happy to give you the FBI's agent's name who is in charge of the investigation and moved it here.

00:23:15.560 Regarding my Marine Corps time, this is one of the most flagrant misnomers that you have

00:23:21.920 that really made us go, I don't think they're very professional in their investigations.

00:23:27.620 You claimed, without a doubt, that I only served two years in the Marine Corps.

00:23:32.900 Do you stand by that?

00:23:34.960 That was what we could find.

00:23:35.980 I'm happy to edit that if you'd like to give us an updated answer.

00:23:39.200 Well, it's not just so much edit.

00:23:40.820 It was three years, and it was on the DD-214 team.

00:23:45.240 So you spread misinformation with great confidence and said, what was he doing?

00:23:51.580 Which shows the lack of professionalism that y'all can't even read a DD-214 team.

00:23:57.080 So you know what?

00:23:58.820 I'd appreciate an apology from you on misrepresenting my service to the United States when I served in the Marine Corps.

00:24:08.920 Will you offer me an apology for that?

00:24:10.600 I think this was just sort of a clerical error that could just have been resolved right here.

00:24:15.880 Like I said, you could come on the show and we could talk about your biography.

00:24:18.940 So I don't think you're owed some emotional apology.

00:24:22.060 It's not emotional.

00:24:22.840 We thought it was two years.

00:24:23.620 You misrepresented my Marine Corps time.

00:24:26.160 I would appreciate an apology.

00:24:27.820 I'm not going to apologize to you for that.

00:24:30.420 I think you're being a little bit over the top.

00:24:33.020 We were born to.

00:24:34.320 Believe me, veterans around the country would stand with me.

00:24:38.700 Veterans don't like to be misrepresented, and you are misrepresenting my time in service in the Marine Corps.

00:24:45.880 And you won't offer an apology.

00:24:47.160 Well, we are happy to update the record.

00:24:48.520 The entire veteran community will take note of that.

00:24:51.300 Thank you.

00:24:52.900 No problem.

00:24:53.780 We're just happy to correct the error that we made.

00:24:56.380 We said two years, and he says it's three.

00:24:59.580 That's not a big deal.

00:25:00.440 My DD-214 says three years, and it is a big deal, Candace.

00:25:04.100 Don't minimize my military service.

00:25:06.620 Okay.

00:25:07.460 I was not minimizing it.

00:25:08.740 I legitimately thought it was two, and we stand corrected.

00:25:11.080 Then offer an apology.

00:25:12.880 I'm not going to apologize to you, Victor.

00:25:14.920 I sense that you are quite arrogant, and you're used to being in control of people.

00:25:19.140 I'm not arrogant or used to being, I am a true seeker.

00:25:22.440 I'm not that individual.

00:25:23.320 For someone who is just lambasted, innocent people, as an Internet bully, you're not used to someone come on the show holding your feet to the fire.

00:25:34.600 My feet don't feel like they're held to the fire at all.

00:25:36.980 I think you're kind of representing yourself as a little all over the place and unable to just present items as I'm giving you the opportunity to do.

00:25:44.320 I'm asking questions.

00:25:44.840 I'm just correcting you so that we can have an honest conversation and it's not another Timu TMZ approach.

00:25:52.100 Okay, you've done that cool line twice, Timu TMZ.

00:25:55.020 I see you had that ready to go in the chamber.

00:25:56.760 Let's move on.

00:25:57.340 Let's talk about your stepfather.

00:26:00.320 You also claimed that you killed a man at the age of seven because he instructed you to do that and buried him in the backyard.

00:26:07.180 Your family disputes that neighborhood.

00:26:08.880 They also noted that there are no news stories that would even back up that a man was missing.

00:26:14.400 It's quite a rural community, Martinville, Mississippi, if someone went missing, that might have been noticed.

00:26:20.800 What's the name of the town?

00:26:21.660 Give us the name of the person that you said that you walked in and told the police that you murdered, however many years ago, because your father forced you to.

00:26:31.040 What was the name of the town you just mentioned?

00:26:33.380 Is this Martinville, Mississippi?

00:26:35.580 No, it's not.

00:26:37.060 You didn't grow up in Martinville, Mississippi?

00:26:39.740 No, I did not.

00:26:41.280 Where did you grow up?

00:26:43.000 I think you could at least find that out from reading my book or watching our documentary.

00:26:49.000 Would you like to—are you familiar with Mississippi at all?

00:26:53.140 Of course I am.

00:26:54.540 Okay, am I getting the name of the town wrong?

00:26:56.560 Do you want to just tell us as opposed to trying to do a dunking on—where in Mississippi did you grow up?

00:27:03.320 Ma'am, you're accusing me of a—that I'm not telling the truth on things.

00:27:09.300 No, I'm just saying that you said you murdered a man, so if you could tell us what town that was in, that'd be helpful.

00:27:13.600 it's in interviews i've done it's in our documentary and i'm telling you if you can

00:27:23.380 at least get the town that i'm in how can we trust you with more information that you're

00:27:28.360 bringing the bigger thing is the homicide that was committed so we can we can scrap about the

00:27:32.260 town later if you don't want to say it uh are you saying you murdered a man anywhere in 50 states

00:27:37.320 can you give us the name of the man that you were forced to murder i didn't know who he was

00:27:42.100 You didn't know who he was. Okay. And you walked into a police station with this information and were told it doesn't matter anymore. Is that correct?

00:27:51.480 Is that your assumption that I walked into a police station? Where did you hear that?

00:27:57.120 That you confessed to, well, the reason why we know this information at all is because you've shared it publicly and said that they, okay, so why don't you reshare the story and what's happened with that story since?

00:28:10.920 Well, why don't you present it accurately so I don't have to keep correcting you?

00:28:14.520 The whole point of me having you on the show and giving you the platform is not so that you can quiz me on your background, but rather so that you could just answer the questions and share the story in its correct context with the right city so you don't have to worry about misinformation because you have a platform right now. Go ahead.

00:28:30.540 Well, Candace, I have a platform without you. We have 4 million followers. And listen, I've been on much bigger programs than yours. I don't need yours to clarify what we're doing. But what you're doing is making slanderous accusations that are incorrect at the very basic level. So, no, I did not walk into a police station. I called the sheriff's department and made the claim many years later. Does that help? I'm doing the job for you.

00:28:58.540 It really does help.

00:28:59.440 Thank you for being able to just answer something and doing a quick fix there.

00:29:03.580 Not everything has to take five minutes.

00:29:05.240 You called the sheriff's department rather than walked into it.

00:29:08.240 Thank you so much.

00:29:09.540 You're welcome.

00:29:09.820 And what happened after that, Victor?

00:29:12.480 Well, let me ask you this before I go on.

00:29:15.500 Have you ever been abused as a kid?

00:29:20.320 Are you asking me if I've ever beheaded a cat?

00:29:23.360 No.

00:29:23.640 I'm asking you, have you ever suffered physical or sexual abuse as a kid?

00:29:28.540 I would say that it would be a little bit more extreme if you say that you murdered someone.

00:29:33.160 Like, that's extreme abuse versus people—

00:29:35.580 But that's not correct.

00:29:37.140 But that's not what I asked you.

00:29:38.300 I asked you personally, have you ever been physically or sexually abused as a kid?

00:29:42.980 I have not been.

00:29:44.160 I have—no, I have not suffered any sexual abuse.

00:29:47.100 I am happy you have not.

00:29:49.420 Now, what we're entering into now, we must be very careful.

00:29:52.660 Because what—and who I represent are millions of both kids and adults who've suffered abuse.

00:29:58.540 and in no way do I want to make minimum of this

00:30:01.980 or make it some type of ratings for you.

00:30:06.180 I've shared my story as an adult regarding my childhood

00:30:10.080 and the abuse that I suffered from three to seven years old.

00:30:12.600 Yes, what I'm telling you is that your family members dispute it.

00:30:14.960 So it's not about a TV moment.

00:30:16.440 It's about me having spoken to your family members

00:30:18.500 who say that this never happened.

00:30:19.760 So that is of interest, obviously, because you are—

00:30:22.440 Well, not really because—

00:30:23.960 You want to be the governor of Colorado.

00:30:25.400 So, you know, figuring out whether or not you tell fantastical stories or whether or not you're able to tell the truth is kind of important for voters, I would say.

00:30:33.400 And I'm inclined to think that you tell some whoppers because the trying to make it emotional and say, well, have you ever suffered sexual abuse?

00:30:41.880 We're talking about a homicide.

00:30:43.220 OK, so I don't know that there are many people who can say that I had to kill someone or behead a cat when I was seven years old and bury the body in the backyard.

00:30:51.840 That feels like an extreme example.

00:30:54.340 Lots of abuse takes place.

00:30:55.980 Sexual abuse takes place.

00:30:57.900 I've heard many of these stories.

00:30:59.580 I would like to—this is actually very important.

00:31:01.940 If this is an unsolved crime, you don't know who this man is.

00:31:04.700 Where did this—I'd like you to just tell a little bit more about what the sheriff said to you when you called and said that you buried him in your backyard.

00:31:11.720 It's interesting, though, that you're claiming my family members from Martinville, Louisiana, claim this never happened.

00:31:19.960 I am six years old, and never once has my family refuted any of this.

00:31:25.180 As a matter of fact, my sister was on my documentary film, The Victor Marks Story, which folks can watch.

00:31:31.940 It's a documentary on YouTube, and she actually completely solidifies the abuse because she went through it.

00:31:41.400 So did other family members.

00:31:43.420 So I'm not sure who you're talking to.

00:31:46.760 Are you referring to Charmaine?

00:31:48.700 I am not.

00:31:49.960 I'm talking about Debbie.

00:31:50.920 Which sister are you referring to? 0.53

00:31:52.960 Debbie, my older sister.

00:31:55.500 I did not speak with Debbie.

00:31:57.540 So, Charmaine, if you spoke with Charmaine, she is my half-sister,

00:32:02.860 who is the daughter of the abuser, Gloristine Kennedy.

00:32:07.840 And I've tried to protect her because she has children.

00:32:12.240 I've tried to protect the family that still carries Kennedy's name out of just—

00:32:19.240 I think caring for people.

00:32:22.320 And my sister has struggled in her life with things including, you know, a fiancé who committed suicide.

00:32:31.380 And it's sad that so much of our problems stem from horrible abuse from her blood biological father.

00:32:40.460 So I'm sorry about that.

00:32:42.880 But also somebody could be missing a relative that got murdered.

00:32:47.180 So I do think it is relative, like, to you running for governor to know why a sheriff, as you tell it, would decline to look into the matter if someone was killed and buried in your backyard.

00:32:59.860 Right. Right here at our leadership training center, we've got members from ICAC.

00:33:05.460 We've got attorney general folks.

00:33:07.260 We've got investigators.

00:33:08.920 We've got analysts and detectives that come here to our training center for a retreat.

00:33:14.600 We bring people in.

00:33:15.540 I work by, through, and with law enforcement.

00:33:18.160 I have MOUs with them.

00:33:20.340 I work to become the man that I wish someone had been when I was a kid to protect me.

00:33:27.420 What I'm saying, and when we talk about kids suffering abuse, or in my case, abuse,

00:33:33.120 and then forced to shoot someone, yes, I was older in life before I went to the police

00:33:39.700 because it's a horrific thing to deal with.

00:33:42.040 The reason why, it is a cold case, it was 40 years old, we don't know where the house is, we don't know where he was buried, we don't know who the victim was.

00:33:52.620 And my grandfather, it was my stepfather at the time, he was put in prison for unrelated charges to murder, but it was, sadly, drug use and bringing it in.

00:34:07.780 But there's a cold case.

00:34:10.140 They could not find anything.

00:34:11.960 At least I went to them to clear my conscience

00:34:14.500 because I suffered for years thinking that I'd killed a person.

00:34:19.080 So you don't know where the house is, you said, right?

00:34:21.900 No, I was brought there at night.

00:34:24.800 I was seven years old, and I was forced to lie in the back of a car.

00:34:29.480 And do you know which city it was in, just out of curiosity?

00:34:31.760 uh there were two towns or sister towns men in hall and mcgee it was in one of those yeah in

00:34:39.400 simpson county mississippi feel free to contact the sheriff department okay thank you i i wanted

00:34:46.100 to know about this um like who authorized you to be able to uh summon demons or exorcise demons

00:34:56.040 You've told many stories about confronting demons, demanding to know what their names are.

00:35:02.380 Where did you receive that sort of training?

00:35:05.540 Because you don't say you're a pastor now.

00:35:08.180 Is that right?

00:35:09.120 I was in ministry, and I tried being a pastor, but I wasn't called to it.

00:35:14.440 I was called more to be, I would say, a unique evangelist that helped people around the world.

00:35:20.020 Now, as we step into this realm of spiritual warfare,

00:35:23.660 I have to ask you just for clarity

00:35:25.780 so I know how to communicate it best to you.

00:35:28.420 Are you a Christian or a believer in Christ?

00:35:32.220 Yes.

00:35:33.260 Do you believe the Bible to be the inherent word of God?

00:35:37.860 Just to cut through what I think you're perhaps getting at,

00:35:44.700 I think you and I would probably have different faith beliefs

00:35:48.800 if that's what you are interested in.

00:35:51.580 Yeah, which is fine.

00:35:53.040 Yeah, I think that you—is it fair to assume that evangelical, Calvary Chapel—

00:35:58.800 are you evangelical? Is that correct?

00:36:01.240 I am a born-again believer in Christ.

00:36:05.780 Okay.

00:36:07.780 So I'm Catholic, so the idea of you not being a priest

00:36:13.500 and being able to exorcise demons is something that I'm interested in.

00:36:16.780 So I would just like to know who sort of granted you that authority?

00:36:21.600 When did you start doing that?

00:36:23.980 Yeah, well, you believe in good and evil, right?

00:36:27.540 And do you believe that demons actually exist?

00:36:30.460 Of course.

00:36:31.600 And for us, and what I've studied in the Word and over the years,

00:36:35.800 is demons' main focus is to attack a human's mind through lies.

00:36:40.460 The Bible says that Satan is the father of lies.

00:36:43.300 and that's what often compels and then drives people to do things they probably would never do

00:36:49.800 otherwise. I was very interested in this as a new believer in the Marine Corps to find out

00:36:56.340 why are people so evil? Why did such horrible things happen to me as a kid? And the only way

00:37:02.180 that I got a solid worldview is to understand good and evil exist, and that is why Christ came

00:37:09.780 to earth. And then that through His Word and what He said in His death on the cross, we could be

00:37:15.300 born again. We could be set free from our old nature. We're made perfect before God, but we

00:37:22.700 still have to live our life out, and it's not imperfection. But He gave us all authority. He

00:37:28.740 said, I give you authority to trample serpents, to cast out demons, and I actually believe it.

00:37:34.800 So what really put me in that place was my, I think, my introduction to helping kids who were in youth prisons who struggled tremendously.

00:37:46.260 Oftentimes, kids who had killed, murdered, raped, tortured people, I dealt with some of the most severe cases.

00:37:56.460 And why God put me there, I don't know.

00:37:58.660 He just gave me a love for them to bring them hope.

00:38:00.740 And it was there that many of them asked for prayer.

00:38:03.220 and when I'd pray for them, they would often manifest demonic influence or oppression.

00:38:09.340 And the Lord taught me how to pray with authority.

00:38:12.920 I go into detail about it.

00:38:15.280 There's a film that we made that clearly communicates what we believe our position is in Christ,

00:38:20.640 our authority is in Christ, and how to set people free.

00:38:24.740 And probably the difference between me and maybe others that, you know, have done stuff is

00:38:31.520 And we don't charge people to set them free.

00:38:35.480 We do this out of love.

00:38:36.760 There's no financial benefit for it, especially kids who are incarcerated.

00:38:41.480 But I have over 6,000 letters here in our headquarters of kids that we've written,

00:38:47.440 and we've corresponded back and forth that really were helped in this.

00:38:51.940 So while I believe in the power of Christ and the Word of God, 0.52

00:38:56.100 And I appreciate the Catholic church and their hierarchy of who can and can't, you know, pray for and do exorcisms.

00:39:06.260 I didn't have access to that, and I started dealing with a lot of people, and I have over the years.

00:39:12.540 You bring up Corby and his wife.

00:39:15.300 Melody, if you talk to her, she says me praying for her, which didn't take long.

00:39:20.660 We're talking 10, 15 minutes is the average time of prayer.

00:39:25.100 It's not dramatic.

00:39:27.380 Nobody's hurt.

00:39:28.820 There's not manifestation.

00:39:30.640 It's just using the power of Christ, praying for someone, and we love and care for them

00:39:35.780 because that's what Christ does.

00:39:37.440 You say that you can command the demons and that you can speak to the demons and ask the

00:39:41.220 demons what their names are and things of that nature.

00:39:44.480 You believe you can do that?

00:39:46.900 I believe I can do what Christ did and said we would do also.

00:39:51.520 He was the one that spoke directly to demons, told them where to go.

00:39:55.100 He's the one that asked them their names.

00:39:56.500 Yeah, he's Christ, yeah.

00:39:58.560 Yeah, and he said, my followers would be able to even do more than me.

00:40:02.860 So I'll tell you, I just believe it, and we've seen it with thousands of people.

00:40:11.060 And again, there's a film we encourage people to watch.

00:40:14.300 They can watch it for free.

00:40:15.840 It's the Unseen War, and churches use that.

00:40:18.740 people of all faiths use that to understand that there actually really is power. And I've prayed

00:40:24.460 for people who are believers, non-believers, Muslims. It doesn't matter. Humanity is under 1.00

00:40:30.720 assault and attack. I'm happy to accept that that's your philosophy, but you also believe

00:40:37.280 that you can command angels. I believe that angels are assigned to us and that we can,

00:40:45.600 by the authority of Christ, command angels to help us in whatever we're doing.

00:40:50.080 I do believe that.

00:40:51.980 Interims, and you do this, like, prayer circle,

00:40:55.480 and you don't feel weird about doing that,

00:40:58.280 having people, you know, bend down in front of you

00:41:01.560 and say that you're commanding demons, tell you their names.

00:41:05.240 Yeah, nobody bends down in front of me.

00:41:09.520 No one even has to close their eyes when we pray.

00:41:12.120 We record every session on audio or video so that they can have it,

00:41:17.220 so there's no miscommunication.

00:41:20.440 And I don't know, you have to look at the fruit of what happens

00:41:25.940 of people being set free, like Corby's wife, Melody.

00:41:29.040 She said she had struggled with thoughts in her mind,

00:41:32.280 negativeness, since she was six.

00:41:34.440 And when I prayed for her, she said she was set free.

00:41:38.840 It saved her life.

00:41:39.920 So I don't know how that could be so wrong.

00:41:43.540 I could think of a lot of ways that it could be wrong, but I don't want to debate your theology.

00:41:47.180 I just want you to have the opportunity to explain it, which I think you did.

00:41:50.400 I do want to move on now to getting into some Turning Point USA stuff.

00:41:53.960 So I had heard from Turning Point USA people that you also were doing prayers at the headquarters.

00:42:02.860 Like you had a room where you would conduct some prayers.

00:42:04.800 Is that correct?

00:42:06.640 I definitely prayed for a couple of people there.

00:42:08.760 Yeah, sure.

00:42:09.180 including Charlie. Did you pray over Charlie and Erica Kirk in one of these prayers?

00:42:13.720 I prayed for Charlie. Yes, I did. He asked me to. And did you do this sort of a retooling

00:42:18.860 angels, demons sort of prayer over him and Erica? Just Charlie. He asked me to.

00:42:25.540 Okay. And they gave you an office to do this. Is that right?

00:42:29.640 I prayed for him in his office. And also other people at Turning Point USA outside of Charlie?

00:42:35.500 I think there were three other people that I prayed for that asked for that, yeah.

00:42:41.080 Okay.

00:42:41.780 How did you meet Charlie and or Erica?

00:42:47.560 I was speaking at an event at a small Hispanic church in California, and Charlie was scheduled to speak, and the pastor asked me last minute to speak.

00:42:58.600 I did, and it was before Charlie.

00:43:01.480 He was a little aggravated that there was another speaker before him because it was a Sunday morning.

00:43:06.740 And I knew about Charlie but never met him.

00:43:09.620 And after I spoke, he spoke, and then we met back in a little makeshift green room.

00:43:15.140 And he says, I've never heard of you, but I'm absolutely encouraged to hear your testimony and what God's done in your life.

00:43:22.700 And he wanted me to have his number and stay connected, so we did.

00:43:27.060 That's how it started.

00:43:28.640 And was that when he was already married to Erica, or was that a little bit before?

00:43:33.240 Yes, he was already married to Erica.

00:43:35.720 Did you meet them both at the same time or met her a bit later?

00:43:38.520 No, she was there.

00:43:40.720 Okay, somebody at Turning Point also conveyed to me, and again, this could be inaccurate,

00:43:45.260 which is why I'm asking you, that there was this falling out period,

00:43:48.220 that you and Charlie did have a little bit of a falling out. Is that correct?

00:43:52.100 No.

00:43:53.300 You never had a falling out with Charlie?

00:43:55.160 No.

00:43:56.300 Okay, that might have been...

00:43:58.060 They might have had the wrong information.

00:43:59.760 Well, and I heard or saw that you said he unfollowed me, or we unfollowed each other.

00:44:06.500 Somebody asked me that in another interview.

00:44:08.520 I made them open up their phone, go to Instagram, go on Charlie's and see if he was following me.

00:44:13.380 You can do it right now.

00:44:15.160 He still follows me even though he's in heaven.

00:44:16.980 They said it was a period.

00:44:18.560 The person had said it was a period.

00:44:20.400 They weren't saying that it was forever.

00:44:21.800 I was just figuring I'd ask you about that.

00:44:23.420 Yeah.

00:44:23.920 No, we never had a falling out.

00:44:25.940 Okay.

00:44:26.140 Okay. So obviously a big question that we have had is you were first to post a video that was later on removed saying that Charlie had passed.

00:44:36.320 And this video was about an hour and 20 minutes before the president's announcement.

00:44:42.360 It would have been to the minute about the time that his family found out that he had passed away.

00:44:49.620 Or the people that were at the hospital had found out that he had passed away.

00:44:52.820 So do you explain how you found that out?

00:44:56.140 and why you chose to remove the video?

00:44:59.140 Well, yeah, I'm first interested to find out why y'all think I was the first

00:45:04.840 or one of the first, you know, to do that.

00:45:08.280 Because, I mean, a rough estimate,

00:45:12.140 there's between one to three million pieces of social media content

00:45:16.400 that are produced every second worldwide.

00:45:20.700 And, you know, my team looked it up.

00:45:23.120 If there's 180 million posts per minute, and let's just say the first 30 minutes, we're talking 5.4 billion posts in 30 minutes.

00:45:34.440 How could y'all narrow it down?

00:45:36.320 What type of technology could y'all do to narrow it down that I was one of the first ones to post that he had passed?

00:45:43.080 Let's put it in a context that's easier.

00:45:46.680 Okay.

00:45:47.020 The first person in Charlie's orbit that announced that information.

00:45:52.040 And when we put it down to the minute, it was when Erica found out that Charlie had passed away.

00:45:58.900 So I was wondering how that was.

00:46:01.260 I had someone text me, and he said, my son is at Charlie's event, and Charlie was just shot, and it doesn't look good.

00:46:12.360 We went on it.

00:46:13.440 i watched charlie being shot one time and my team uh many who are former special operations

00:46:21.280 guys and combat medics lots of experience they viewed it multiple times because i wouldn't

00:46:27.440 and they said charlie they said charlie wouldn't live from that and i i knew it the first i knew

00:46:35.520 the only time i saw it i knew there's no way he could have survived that and when i made

00:46:42.560 a post and said you know charlie's passed of course i know frank turret i know the security

00:46:49.200 teams i put it up and then i didn't see anybody else posting it i thought it was premature and i

00:46:56.880 i pulled it down because it just felt wrong that i would post it but it i wanted people to pray

00:47:05.920 and then i contacted erica through a text and told her

00:47:12.560 I was just told her, nobody's going to kill you.

00:47:17.760 You're safe.

00:47:18.800 You and the kids, no one's coming after you.

00:47:21.640 They just wanted Charlie.

00:47:23.320 And I was just trying to reassure her.

00:47:25.720 So you declared he was dead on the basis of people saying it didn't look good?

00:47:30.760 On the basis of people, myself included, who've had held dead and dying men from combat in horrible situations.

00:47:43.280 And anybody who saw the killing and has that experience know, we knew he was dead instantly.

00:47:54.200 Hmm.

00:47:55.620 I struggle with that one a little bit.

00:47:57.080 I think that's quite audacious for someone to, because you did make a post initially saying he had been shot, pray for him, and then you did a follow-up and then said, you know, Charlie is passed on and said pray for Erica.

00:48:08.640 So it just seems like there was some information in the corridor there that led you to that conclusion.

00:48:14.720 And also in terms of the people who did post early on, I believe Jack Hibbs, Amir Safari, I think I'm saying his last name probably incorrectly.

00:48:24.860 definitely all a part of that same sort of turning point faith orbit of pastors. And

00:48:31.460 Jack Hibbs took down a video saying that actually there was an Israel channel that reported it first

00:48:37.500 and had the information before anybody else. I'm not aware of that. Yeah. So I was wondering if

00:48:42.460 you were all perhaps sharing information, but you're saying you just did that by yourself,

00:48:46.500 no information. Well, the first post I made was to ask for prayer. And I knew just my gut level

00:48:54.220 from watching it he's not gonna make it and then but we believe in prayer and if nothing else it's

00:49:00.760 going to be for those who are with them those who secondary trauma effects of you're supposed to be

00:49:07.740 guarding someone who's killed next eric and the kids the first one we went to that's why i texted

00:49:13.320 and said you're safe they're not going to come for you because how terrifying to know someone's just

00:49:18.460 murdered assassinated your husband and when i posted the second time that it had been a little

00:49:25.900 time and i just kind of spoke from my heart regarding it but but what i don't understand is

00:49:32.200 why the inquisition on that from you well because we just wanted to know where the information came

00:49:37.700 from obviously if we're looking into everything that happened that day we're going to look at

00:49:40.700 who was the first to announce that charlie died and you were very early and you removed it also

00:49:45.780 So it was an interesting item that people obviously have questions about.

00:49:49.680 Yeah.

00:49:49.880 Okay.

00:49:50.060 And then you were among the first to post, you know, obviously you and your wife.

00:49:56.200 Actually, maybe it was actually just you in the first two days that went to Erica and Charlie's place to provide her some comfort.

00:50:04.860 So you were quite close to Erica.

00:50:08.480 We brought our team immediately to help give relief for the first security team,

00:50:16.040 who I knew when I was in contact with, and they were suffering trauma and exhaustion.

00:50:22.900 They didn't have a secondary.

00:50:24.680 So, yeah, we went there.

00:50:26.800 Of course, my bride was with me.

00:50:29.340 Her and Erica are very, very close.

00:50:32.260 And we were just standing by to bring comfort or help, the number one need they had.

00:50:36.600 and we felt like it

00:50:38.040 and we were asked to

00:50:38.780 is to provide security

00:50:39.900 to give relief.

00:50:41.780 So that's what we did.

00:50:43.820 Okay.

00:50:44.000 And just out of curiosity,

00:50:45.200 how did Eileen and Erica

00:50:46.080 get so close? 1.00

00:50:50.760 There's a lot of women 1.00

00:50:51.760 that, you know, 1.00

00:50:53.560 reach out to my bride 0.84

00:50:54.520 for mentorship

00:50:55.780 and Eileen's like a,

00:50:59.260 I don't know,

00:50:59.640 perhaps a second mom

00:51:00.620 to Erica.

00:51:02.820 We've been close to them

00:51:04.040 and they still are.

00:51:05.520 They were texting

00:51:06.200 this week.

00:51:08.240 Erica reaches out

00:51:09.300 and we respond

00:51:11.660 or we reach out

00:51:12.740 and encourage her.

00:51:13.720 So yeah,

00:51:14.180 they're very close.

00:51:16.020 Just sort of became close

00:51:16.900 over the years?

00:51:18.400 Yes.

00:51:19.780 Okay, great.

00:51:20.500 Just asking you questions?

00:51:22.140 That's not trying

00:51:22.940 to speculate anything.

00:51:23.840 I'm just

00:51:24.320 literally trying to understand

00:51:25.880 what the relationship is here

00:51:26.840 because there are a lot of

00:51:27.700 themes that keep popping up

00:51:29.820 and one of the things

00:51:30.740 is your involvement

00:51:31.420 in trafficking

00:51:32.480 and charity.

00:51:33.800 It's a lot of

00:51:34.260 just seems to be

00:51:35.300 like a running theme of a lot of people that are in that orbit. And I wasn't quite clear as to how

00:51:41.940 you were able to involve yourself, I guess, outside of the military. Maybe you could explain

00:51:47.400 this, you know, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Haiti, in, I mean, where else actually could I ask you

00:51:56.220 that? Did you ever go into Eastern Europe? I feel like there's always a Eastern Europe bend too.

00:52:01.060 Yeah, no, not physically.

00:52:03.580 We didn't do physical operations there.

00:52:06.580 But how we got involved into it, you know, my time in the Marine Corps was I served under President Reagan.

00:52:13.180 My wife and I started a ministry, All Things Possible, many, many years ago, a couple of decades.

00:52:19.220 Before that, I worked for Dr. James Dobson as an assistant.

00:52:22.860 and we initially got into this aspect or space of ministry to help kids who were abused and

00:52:30.420 suffered, many who were incarcerated, which was often a pathway for them to follow because of

00:52:38.000 crime and mental health issues. We were invited. First, I was invited to go to Burma by Dave

00:52:43.900 Eubank, who I consider kind of the godfather of high-risk missions work, and he raised his

00:52:50.380 children in Burma, Thailand, but they did missions work for, they still do, for decades. But it was

00:52:58.080 me going there, experiencing what we did, seeing things at a whole different level.

00:53:04.740 And then I got invited to go to Iraq when ISIS invaded. And the purpose was, and we had an

00:53:11.120 invitation by the Kurdistan government. We had access placement and an official invitation to

00:53:16.420 go in to help those who had been held captive by ISIS.

00:53:19.900 I brought in partial psychology team, partial security team,

00:53:24.240 because ISIS was everywhere, and we needed to provide our own security.

00:53:29.400 We went there the first time in 2015, the early part, and it was a very hot zone.

00:53:34.600 We thought that would be it, Candace.

00:53:36.980 We just thought we'd go in and help.

00:53:38.320 We saw the enormous amount of IDPs, you know, which are displaced persons because of ISIS having to flee cities, and the number of kids.

00:53:51.160 And it was actually through my wife helping a girl who had been held captive.

00:53:56.160 And this girl told Eileen, she said, you really care about all of our sisters.

00:54:02.400 She was a Yazidi, and she refers to all the girls still being held captive.

00:54:07.660 and she says yes and the girl pulled out a phone gave it to my wife and said this is from isis emir

00:54:14.380 in the house i was held captive and i hope it helps y'all find more and actually she had asked

00:54:21.120 for my wife's she kept looking at my wife's watch before that um there's a picture of it it's it's

00:54:27.980 actually very beautiful and my wife said do you like my watch and she said yes she goes well you

00:54:33.260 can have it. And she gave it to her. That was the first of many times going into the region

00:54:39.320 and many missions to help those. We didn't plan. It wasn't our focus to rescue women and children

00:54:47.000 at all. It was our focus to help those who've been traumatized in these IDP camps, which some

00:54:53.060 had 30,000 people in them, but they were lacking basic necessities for women and girls. They were

00:54:59.040 lack in what we provided dignity kits for personal hygiene. We provided food. We provided water. 0.94

00:55:05.940 We started providing surgeries as our donations came in. And never did we take any governmental

00:55:13.180 funding. To this day, we haven't. Everything that we've done has been documented. And I think

00:55:19.420 some people who doubt the authenticity of what we do, they simply have to go to YouTube and watch

00:55:25.760 it we've documented year after year some of the doubt comes from the fact that people were not

00:55:29.680 able to locate any of these like 45 i think the number you claim is 45 000 uh kids and women that

00:55:37.580 you've rescued um and 45 45 000 is that what you told sean ryan 45 000 i think was the number

00:55:44.000 have you ever read or heard me say we've rescued 45 000 women or children i think we we played the

00:55:53.580 clip i might be wrong but 45 000 i think was the number uh producers you can remind me but i think

00:55:58.600 for i think i heard you say 45 000 in a clip you have to be very specific on the sean ryan show

00:56:03.700 yeah it was not rescued nowhere including the sean ryan show have i ever declared

00:56:10.340 in writing or verbally that i ever rescued 45 000 women and children that's absolutely

00:56:17.260 do you guys think you could pull that clip yeah i'm i'm gonna have the producers pull i'm pretty

00:56:22.900 sure you said 45,000. Yeah, just play the clip in context. Yeah, do you want to, do you guys want

00:56:29.240 to play that? If, is there a way, I'm just trying to see if we can get the producers to pull it,

00:56:32.120 so I don't, they'll, they'll, they'll pull that. I'm pretty sure you said 45,000. So are you saying

00:56:37.800 you didn't rescue 45,000 people? What I'm saying is I've never, me, said or written or our

00:56:45.560 organization ever declared we rescued 45,000. We've helped, we've provided trauma relief,

00:56:52.900 And some we've definitely rescued because it's part of what we do.

00:56:58.120 Our mission statement for all things possible ministries is to set captives free physically, emotionally, and spiritually.

00:57:04.580 And we stay within the confines of our mission, and we're very successful in what we do.

00:57:08.900 But we document it in a way that if people simply go to our YouTube channel, they can see it.

00:57:15.620 If they go back, they can watch the history of our social media.

00:57:20.220 And how many people would you say you've rescued?

00:57:23.840 Because maybe we're parsing here.

00:57:27.540 You're saying freed.

00:57:28.640 You freed people, rescued people.

00:57:30.460 How many people would you say that you have rescued just to get a number from you?

00:57:34.660 Well, we would never declare the total number of people we've rescued for both security and safety reasons.

00:57:41.500 But we're happy to say that many, many have been set free and rescued in multiple places from ISIS is where we got the most.

00:57:52.260 I think people started recognizing that because of how high risk it was.

00:57:56.640 My wife and I, the last mission we were on, we rescued.

00:58:00.880 That was a rescue of a mom who had been held captive nine years.

00:58:04.800 She was kidnapped as a teenager, had two children inside of captivity of ISIS.

00:58:10.500 and we planned a mission for six months,

00:58:13.180 executed in five days.

00:58:14.720 It's documented and she's back home with her family.

00:58:19.540 Unfortunately, her dad passed away

00:58:21.320 while she was in captivity

00:58:22.820 and we never told the family

00:58:24.460 we were going to attempt a rescue

00:58:25.680 because of the hardship it would cause

00:58:27.880 if we weren't able to do it.

00:58:29.480 But Eileen, my bride, was the point person,

00:58:32.680 the first person to meet her

00:58:35.000 when we were doing this.

00:58:37.040 That's documented as well

00:58:38.600 and we show pictures and videos of the mom and the kids in our safe house inside of our rack.

00:58:45.200 I think one of the things that makes people really uncomfortable with a lot of these couples

00:58:48.760 to involve themselves in rescuing and trafficking operations and charity is that we do hear this

00:58:55.860 repeat thing where you say, well, it would compromise their safety if we told you where

00:58:59.980 they went. And that makes us have to trust you, right? And trust that you're an honest person and

00:59:07.040 that you're an honest dealer and that you're, in fact, rescuing them and not, you know,

00:59:09.960 maybe holding them in captivity yourself.

00:59:12.540 And so when you get a person like you who I think, you know, I have some questions about

00:59:19.080 your character.

00:59:19.780 I think that that's fair.

00:59:21.040 Sure.

00:59:21.860 And you say that you're in this business and that you do everything and the people that

00:59:25.760 say you're not that person are all troubled.

00:59:27.560 For example, the young woman that you said you rescued from a pedophile who says another

00:59:32.060 story and she makes the claim that she believes that you're a part of the trafficking ring.

00:59:37.040 How is it possible for people to be able to prod that narrative if you can always just claim, well, the people that we help need privacy?

00:59:44.420 I mean, that would be a perfect setup for like Jeffrey Epstein, right?

00:59:47.360 I mean, if you just want to traffic people and then say, well, you know, we can't tell you where these people are because we've got to protect their identity and we've got to protect everything about them.

00:59:57.100 Candice, I think that's not a bad question because there are no doubt, and there's no doubt in my mind, that there are organizations that are actually traffickers that pose as counter-trafficking.

01:00:12.920 We've been doing this for, gosh, many years, and we work by-through and went law enforcement.

01:00:20.540 In other countries, we still work through government agencies, and the best way to prove

01:00:29.840 the authenticity of claims is two ways, or three if you want to go all the way.

01:00:36.860 One is people who've been on the mission, credible individuals.

01:00:41.020 I have quite a list of operators who've done security work, intelligence gathering part,

01:00:46.640 who either still have or did have the highest level of clearance in the U.S.

01:00:50.880 that worked for the CIA or Joint Task Force or Delta.

01:00:55.960 This is not something that people winch at

01:01:01.120 because we have a history of high credibility and integrity.

01:01:06.040 Yeah, so the CIA, I would say, is the biggest trafficking organization in the world.

01:01:09.580 So that's not a vote of confidence, right?

01:01:11.320 So if you say, oh, I did it with the CIA or the IDF,

01:01:14.260 I go, yeah, we'll go to Jeffrey Epstein, right?

01:01:16.300 Right. So that doesn't, I don't think that that, like, saying I do it for the government doesn't lend credibility.

01:01:22.020 Well, let me clarify. I don't disagree with your statement.

01:01:25.400 There are very corrupt governments, and I work for none of them.

01:01:28.780 I work around the governments, but I've never been paid by any of them.

01:01:33.540 When I say CIA, I'm talking about former men and women who have worked for the agency and bring a set of skill sets that are trustworthy for us.

01:01:45.360 And the third way would be the actual victims themselves.

01:01:49.780 We just got a video from Southeast Asia.

01:01:53.380 I didn't ask for, but one of our safe houses there, they were so hurt and disgusted by the false allegations against me.

01:02:03.680 And it's only happened since I've entered the political realm, which is a completely different beast.

01:02:09.600 But they made a video and sent it.

01:02:12.360 I couldn't even watch it all because it was victims that we had saved and helped.

01:02:18.960 And they're sending a video to try to prove to the naysayers that, of course, what he's saying is real.

01:02:27.700 And that's on our social media.

01:02:29.500 People can watch that.

01:02:31.040 It's either AI or a bunch of people that are paid.

01:02:34.100 And we've been doing this far too long and with far too much integrity.

01:02:38.780 And if I was doing anything nefarious, believe me, we would have already got in trouble for it.

01:02:45.320 But we're not.

01:02:46.100 The other one is if you just come.

01:02:48.700 If you ever, Candace Owens, if you ever say, I want to go to the Middle East and meet people and see firsthand what you've done.

01:02:58.420 If you'll accept the risk, I'll give you my word that you can be on a team.

01:03:03.320 We'll take you there and we'll introduce you.

01:03:05.440 as long as you sign an NDA and make sure you don't reveal some of our network, because we

01:03:11.860 still do the work. If you want to go to Southeast Asia, you can bring a camera cool. We'll introduce

01:03:18.620 you to one of our safe houses and see the work that we do. It's just we've always kept things

01:03:24.520 closer to our vest. We've raised our own support. And the most important thing that has helped us

01:03:31.100 prayer, because we have been able to do things that people said could never be done. So that's

01:03:38.660 a point I'm making regarding this aspect. Now, regarding Holly, the young lady that you brought

01:03:43.820 up in Canada, you know what? Everything we said about her is true. Everything we did is true.

01:03:53.200 and here's what I would say to people like yourself

01:03:58.800 and I haven't heard you accuse us

01:04:03.040 of doing anything nefarious.

01:04:05.040 You only repeat what others say

01:04:06.880 but regarding Holly,

01:04:09.060 this is what I'd say to anybody.

01:04:12.040 Has anyone talked to Holly's mother or her father?

01:04:17.180 If you haven't talked to their mother,

01:04:19.760 her mother or father,

01:04:21.380 then you haven't done the very basics of investigative work.

01:04:25.200 Two, we met with an HSI, human trafficking specialist at the border,

01:04:32.760 who approved us to get through from Canada to the U.S. and gave her temporary status.

01:04:39.760 Three, we brought in law enforcement both here and in Texas where we were keeping her.

01:04:45.940 Four, we documented everything.

01:04:47.540 And five, the very point couple in Canada that was our, I would say, our Agents of Hope up there, have video that they just posted yesterday of Holly telling the truth about what we did to help her.

01:05:06.300 And look, I've had those videos, but I've never put them out since they reached out to Holly.

01:05:12.840 And it wasn't Holly that reached out. 0.98

01:05:15.140 It was Holly's pedophile who groomed this girl since she was 13, had sex with her at 15. 1.00

01:05:22.780 She is a, sadly, a very damaged individual. 0.98

01:05:26.820 They've already had a child.

01:05:28.600 And I'm telling you, the people who have platformed her pedophile on the conservative radio station here,

01:05:36.120 they're going to be held accountable because they've re-victimized this girl.

01:05:41.540 She has Stockholm syndrome.

01:05:43.400 She hasn't been posting.

01:05:44.900 The last thing they did, and I was told that these folks here who are trying to discredit me, Candace, told her if you and Les will sue Victor, force, you know, try to get them for trafficking, you'll be able to make millions.

01:06:01.280 So, Victor, an easy question for you.

01:06:03.400 Have you ever done anything wrong?

01:06:07.120 Of course.

01:06:08.260 But in what context?

01:06:09.600 Just in your ministries, in these relationships that you've had with people that claim that they find you to be manipulative and abusive, have you ever done anything wrong?

01:06:21.120 Candace, I'm human. I've messed up plenty.

01:06:24.720 But in the air of integrity, I've never intentionally gone after anybody.

01:06:29.940 I've never manipulated, maligned, or tried to do things for money.

01:06:37.640 So, yeah, I mean, watch my film, read one of my two books.

01:06:42.900 I talk about plenty of self-evident ways that I depend on the grace of God.

01:06:50.260 But I don't know if it's that hard to believe that somebody that came from my background

01:06:55.480 who feel like I've been given a second chance in life, my goal as a kid growing up was to

01:07:01.200 become the man that I wish somebody would have been to help save me.

01:07:05.160 and I turn around and God redeems my life for a greater good?

01:07:09.020 What's so hard to believe about that, that I made right choices?

01:07:12.540 I didn't have to end up in prison.

01:07:14.800 I struggled with drug abuse as a kid.

01:07:17.440 I struggled with my temper early on, of which I told people.

01:07:21.960 I would, about once a year, punch or kick a hole in the wall.

01:07:26.980 That was many years ago.

01:07:28.860 I told people I was under psychiatric care, 122 visits to a trauma specialist.

01:07:34.060 Why wouldn't I after the abuse that I went through, which was severe and torture?

01:07:38.640 My life is a redeemed life.

01:07:40.380 Never do I claim to be perfect.

01:07:42.240 But my passion is I love people because I'm loved by God.

01:07:46.500 And I don't know why, only since I've come into this space of running for governor, has all hell broke loose.

01:07:55.220 I think people are just looking into your background and they have some questions about, you know, it just seems a little bit fantastical, your relationships with the IDF.

01:08:03.480 I mean, personally, if I was in college—

01:08:04.400 Do you want to talk about that?

01:08:06.300 Well, I think you've been honest about your relationship with the IDF.

01:08:08.960 I think you've just said that you have relationships with them, obviously.

01:08:11.880 You went on Charlie Kirk's show after October 7th.

01:08:13.940 You've said you foster a relationship with them.

01:08:15.620 I'm not saying—

01:08:16.700 Ask me what I did.

01:08:17.880 Nothing was said, just to be clear, that was illegal about your relationship with them.

01:08:22.400 There was nothing said that was implied that you did anything illegal.

01:08:24.860 I know, but ask me what I did with the IDF.

01:08:26.620 Ask me so I can tell you.

01:08:28.360 Why don't you ask me what I did with the IDF?

01:08:31.300 Why did I go to Israel?

01:08:32.600 So after October 7th, we played the clip on our show when you were on Charlie Kirk's show.

01:08:36.820 Do you know what I did there, Candice?

01:08:40.100 I can say what you said on the Charlie Kirk show, that you went there after October 7th to be able to tell the story of what happened there and to separate propaganda.

01:08:51.200 People would say it was propaganda.

01:08:52.480 Correct.

01:08:53.340 Yeah.

01:08:53.680 So we showed that.

01:08:54.940 Well, let me tell you, we helped 6,000 children who had been affected by the war between Hamas and Israel.

01:09:01.340 And it was because we had access places and an invitation that we were able to go into these places.

01:09:07.540 Who invited you?

01:09:09.220 A nonprofit that was based inside of Israel, who was a special forces IDF guy who's followed us for years.

01:09:17.380 We got invited in.

01:09:19.440 And, you know, the first question I asked him when I'm in kibbutzes with blood and gore everywhere,

01:09:26.120 I said, why didn't the government respond?

01:09:30.600 What happened?

01:09:32.040 And my friends who lived there said two things, Victor.

01:09:36.120 One, we were unprepared and we underestimated our enemy.

01:09:40.040 I said, how long did it take for the government to send reinforcements?

01:09:45.140 It was six hours, six hours.

01:09:49.520 I asked every fighter, why?

01:09:53.360 Why didn't they respond and help y'all?

01:09:55.300 Why did they leave y'all here fighting? 0.94

01:09:58.420 Why did so many women and children have to get killed?

01:10:01.840 How come they didn't respond?

01:10:03.940 No one has an answer.

01:10:05.920 And someone should be held accountable for that. 0.99

01:10:08.620 Because I'm not there to back Israel. 0.99

01:10:10.860 I'm not there to back Palestinian folks.

01:10:13.320 I'm there for women and children.

01:10:15.160 And we put our life on the line to help.

01:10:17.840 Over 6,000.

01:10:19.300 I went into the West Bank.

01:10:20.780 Yes, I did go into Gaza by virtue of these special operations teams, not to shoot, not to kill, not to kick doors in.

01:10:28.820 I went to pray.

01:10:29.960 And we helped Palestinian kids who had been injured as well.

01:10:33.980 This is who we are. 0.89

01:10:35.560 And anything other than is just ridiculous. 0.95

01:10:39.780 We handed out lion and lambs.

01:10:41.540 What do you think about what Israel is doing in Palestine at the moment?

01:10:47.080 Well, I know this.

01:10:48.260 I know amazing, amazing IDF fighters.

01:10:53.140 I know amazing people who are protecting their homeland.

01:10:57.560 I love children on both sides of it, and I've been with great warriors.

01:11:04.280 We've helped.

01:11:05.480 We've helped.

01:11:06.820 But I don't, and I can't say that I fully trust the leadership and judgment of a government

01:11:12.440 that waited six hours, six hours to send reinforcement.

01:11:17.680 It's a 20-minute flight by helicopter.

01:11:20.520 It's a 45-minute drive to send troops down there.

01:11:24.340 The reasons they said, I still don't know.

01:11:27.760 And I was told by everybody there'll be an investigation afterwards.

01:11:32.060 But I know this. 0.80

01:11:33.000 I think it was to establish the pretext for what they did in Gaza.

01:11:35.680 I'm just asking, you've expressed that you and your wife care deeply about women and children.

01:11:39.420 We do.

01:11:39.840 And you can see the footage of what they have done to Gaza since. 0.72

01:11:42.980 So I'm asking you.

01:11:43.940 It's horrific.

01:11:44.640 While we were there, while we were there on the Israeli side, we had over 2,000 rockets launched at us.

01:11:51.360 How are they still firing rockets?

01:11:53.560 I said from the beginning, this could be stopped.

01:11:54.980 No, I don't mean as Israel as a victim. 0.75

01:11:56.400 I'm saying now I think the victim has flipped, obviously.

01:11:59.900 Oh, I think innocent people on both sides paid a price, paid a horrible price.

01:12:08.060 But do you believe what's happening in Gaza is a genocide?

01:12:10.340 I would say this, it has turned into a genocide, but the question I have to ask, and you should be asking too, why didn't Hamas stop firing rockets when we were there doing humanitarian work?

01:12:25.860 There was over 2,000 rockets fired at us in the areas that we were at. 0.54

01:12:30.540 It was nonstop.

01:12:31.920 I said this from the beginning.

01:12:33.180 I put it online.

01:12:34.280 I was on Fox.

01:12:35.240 I said, Hamas needs to stop firing rockets.

01:12:39.960 in the beginning. Stop firing. Return the hostages. Return them. And then there'll be a ceasefire.

01:12:46.680 Work out something they never did. And that's the question. Look, I love Palestinians. I love the

01:12:53.160 people. I've helped kids, women. I love them. And to see people innocently slaughtered because

01:12:59.340 of a terrorist group, Hamas, that continues to attack Israel, what are you going to do?

01:13:05.040 Well, I think the terrorist group now might be the IDF, right? Because of what's happening in Gaza.

01:13:09.180 I don't think that that's done by people who are not terrorists.

01:13:12.100 I mean, I don't.

01:13:13.700 Have you seen the videos of what's coming out of there? 0.72

01:13:16.220 I saw the videos of what Hamas did.

01:13:19.080 It's horrible.

01:13:20.440 Yeah.

01:13:20.740 It's horrible.

01:13:21.720 I do want to just show you, by the way, your website said that you rescued 45,000 people.

01:13:26.860 I just want to show you that.

01:13:29.520 This is, well, the old website is just did this get changed, but a Marine, a pastor,

01:13:34.680 this is, I don't know who changed this.

01:13:36.040 Maybe you had somebody doing your website and that got changed.

01:13:38.720 Did you have somebody make the website for you?

01:13:40.360 I can't.

01:13:41.960 It says a high-risk humanitarian who has rescued more than 45,000 women and children.

01:13:47.600 That's completely inaccurate.

01:13:49.120 I would have never.

01:13:50.640 What website is that on?

01:13:52.340 It's victor2026.com.

01:13:55.820 We never.

01:13:57.360 Anybody.

01:14:00.180 They're saying that that was on our website.

01:14:02.700 I don't believe that.

01:14:04.380 We would never put rescued 45,000.

01:14:07.520 Never.

01:14:08.600 okay i don't say yeah i don't it's just you know when it it will still save former edits on a

01:14:18.740 website so it may have just been your website guy got something wrong so i just wanted to let you

01:14:22.540 know that we didn't uh we didn't thank you yeah okay um okay so that is very interesting to hear

01:14:28.820 your perspectives on um what israel is doing i think it's probably going to be a number one issue

01:14:34.260 And I think right now, currently, people feel that the majority of the politicians have sold out to AIPAC.

01:14:41.000 And I would definitely have some questions about your relationship with the IDF.

01:14:45.120 And like I said, Corby did not say that you did anything illegal.

01:14:48.820 You know, if you are legally allowed to buy and sell guns.

01:14:54.300 Never did I ask Corby for 50,000 weapons for IDF.

01:14:59.620 I have an FFL.

01:15:01.740 I only buy stuff for ourself, for our training. 0.80

01:15:04.700 That's ridiculous. 0.71

01:15:05.700 That's absurd. 0.97

01:15:07.140 And again, Corby's still loose out there.

01:15:09.880 And if he's watching, Corby, please turn yourself in to some authorities.

01:15:15.100 Let them question you.

01:15:16.440 And like I said from the beginning, please get help.

01:15:19.000 Don't act upon the thoughts you're hearing.

01:15:20.460 So, I'm sorry, are you presenting that he's on the run right now from the federal government?

01:15:24.420 Because that's a remarkable claim.

01:15:27.020 I'm not saying he's on the run, but I'm saying that we, the authorities are looking for him to question him.

01:15:34.260 Have they tried to call him?

01:15:37.540 I guess.

01:15:38.600 I don't know.

01:15:39.100 It's both the FBI and El Paso County.

01:15:41.400 That would just be a good start if you're looking for someone to just call them, right?

01:15:44.480 Well, I'm sure they have.

01:15:46.960 It's an open investigation.

01:15:48.960 But I'm just saying Corby should just stop whatever he's doing and respond to authorities to get this sorted out.

01:15:57.140 But you don't know if they've reached out to him, but you're saying he should stop and respond?

01:16:00.460 I do not know.

01:16:01.420 They've contacted me and said, do you know where he is?

01:16:04.260 Do you know where he would be?

01:16:05.760 And I'm like, I do not.

01:16:07.940 So that's why I'm just giving this.

01:16:09.000 Just to go back, just so you know,

01:16:10.060 the way that you said it in the first time,

01:16:11.340 you made it kind of sound like

01:16:12.080 he was on the run from authorities, right?

01:16:14.420 Turn yourself in sounds like,

01:16:16.240 when you say turn yourself in,

01:16:17.680 it sounds like there's a warrant for your arrest.

01:16:19.380 So this is what I think that sometimes you can get,

01:16:22.260 you don't, maybe don't realize it,

01:16:23.440 but you can get a little fantastical in your descriptions.

01:16:26.700 Corby, stop what you're doing and turn yourself in

01:16:29.040 is a little bit different from,

01:16:30.240 oh, I have no idea if they're reaching out to him,

01:16:31.920 but I was told they might give him a call, right?

01:16:33.680 So that's a little more reasonable of a statement to make.

01:16:36.680 Well, let me make it very clear.

01:16:39.220 The FBI has contacted us.

01:16:41.160 It's an open investigation.

01:16:43.120 And El Paso County Sheriff's Department, they are looking for Corby.

01:16:47.860 Plain and simple.

01:16:49.020 He should stop what he's doing and contact him or turn himself in to local authorities wherever he is.

01:16:55.240 So he can be questioned.

01:16:56.780 You don't have to turn yourself in if there's not a warrant for your arrest.

01:17:00.780 Respectfully, like, that's not how that works.

01:17:02.520 They just have to call them. I think that's a perfect place to leave that. Let's not pretend. If you said there was a warrant for his arrest, that'd be a little different, but you are not required in any of the 50 states to turn yourself in because somebody says, okay, we're going to try to make some contact with this person. You have not said that he's not answering.

01:17:20.320 I just want to stay away from the fantastical stories and the narratives and just stick to the facts.

01:17:26.620 Like I said, I've heard that there's an open investigation into you and has something to do with guns.

01:17:31.940 I don't know, but I wouldn't just assert things.

01:17:34.780 That's not true.

01:17:35.000 We could say, Victor, stop what you're doing and turn yourself in because somebody got a phone call.

01:17:39.920 That's a complete fabrication.

01:17:42.720 Okay.

01:17:43.040 I work with law enforcement.

01:17:45.180 Okay.

01:17:45.660 No, Candace, I work.

01:17:47.280 We'll leave that alone.

01:17:48.560 We don't have to.

01:17:49.560 If someone said they were going to kill you and they told somebody how, would you want that person to talk to the law enforcement agency?

01:17:59.480 I have no evidence of that.

01:18:01.240 And like I said, some of your stories, just a perfect example is what you just did there.

01:18:05.540 Well, it's Corey Kennedy who platformed Corby.

01:18:09.520 Obviously, this is a little bit more.

01:18:11.060 And I am platforming you right now, actually.

01:18:13.560 So here we go.

01:18:14.820 Yeah.

01:18:15.520 But I've done nothing wrong.

01:18:18.640 if anything i've that's just incredibly sarcastic yeah i was being sarcastic i i find you to be

01:18:27.420 arrogant and off-putting actually um it was a little bit of sarcasm of me basically pointing 0.68

01:18:33.320 to the fact that you come across as very arrogant and it's it is off-putting um that you make 0.90

01:18:38.200 statements like you make stop what you're doing and turn yourself out you're constantly presenting

01:18:41.500 yourself like you're some sort of an authority you can just deliver the facts i received a phone

01:18:45.300 call from this person. They said they might be looking for him, and I don't know where that went

01:18:49.200 since. That would be a logical, non-emotive statement. Candace, it's completely appropriate

01:18:53.660 for me to say law enforcement is looking for an individual who confessed to someone who platformed

01:19:01.080 him on your show, Connected, Joe, that he is homicidal and he wants to kill me, and this is 0.76

01:19:05.340 how he's going to do it. I just don't know if I believe that the feds would need you to help look

01:19:11.660 for him if that were true. They do have

01:19:13.640 resources. But like I said,

01:19:15.980 I also don't believe

01:19:17.080 that you beheaded a cat when you were

01:19:19.640 three because kids are not that strong

01:19:21.540 and that's a hard thing to do. I don't believe you wore

01:19:23.580 a cat head because, you know,

01:19:25.540 there's a lot of things that you say that I don't believe. So I'm just going to file

01:19:27.620 it under. But I'll tell you,

01:19:29.660 be very careful in

01:19:31.480 minimizing someone who's been

01:19:33.420 victimized, including children,

01:19:35.640 because there are millions of us out

01:19:37.560 there. I do not

01:19:39.620 believe the story

01:19:41.520 that you were forced to be head of cat

01:19:42.920 and it was your first memory.

01:19:44.080 You don't have to.

01:19:44.800 You don't have to.

01:19:46.220 I just...

01:19:46.600 But be very careful minimizing...

01:19:48.720 And wore a hat.

01:19:49.280 I don't believe that.

01:19:50.140 I truly don't.

01:19:51.260 And that is not to victimize children.

01:19:53.460 I do think that what you're actually doing

01:19:55.100 is you're being emotionally manipulated

01:19:56.880 by saying,

01:19:57.440 oh, if you don't believe me,

01:19:58.380 then you don't believe victims.

01:19:59.400 No, I believe things that sound believable

01:20:02.020 because I have a logical, rational brain.

01:20:04.820 And I have to stop at, you know...

01:20:05.480 But yet you've never been victimized.

01:20:07.220 You've never suffered sexual abuse. 0.99

01:20:08.020 Shooting and murdering people 0.90

01:20:09.060 and the sheriff's department 0.98

01:20:10.340 not wanting to figure out who that is

01:20:13.060 or not knowing where it happened.

01:20:14.180 A lot of it does not ring true to me.

01:20:16.940 And like I said, I did enough due diligence

01:20:18.460 to speak to your relatives and they say that it's not true.

01:20:21.240 You haven't done your due diligence

01:20:22.740 to get the very basics.

01:20:23.120 You're presenting it as though they're protecting the abuser.

01:20:25.940 I just am telling you

01:20:27.380 I personally don't believe it.

01:20:29.180 How about we introduce you to the

01:20:30.980 Colorado residents?

01:20:33.060 I wouldn't be voting for you.

01:20:34.900 We can introduce you to international, well you're not,

01:20:37.060 it doesn't matter. What I would say is this,

01:20:39.300 to International Crimes Against Children.

01:20:41.160 Let us introduce you to detectives

01:20:42.880 that actually work on child abuse cases

01:20:44.960 and have one conversation with them

01:20:47.700 to see what's really real.

01:20:50.060 I don't. I'm sorry.

01:20:51.360 You don't have to.

01:20:52.300 I'm not saying you have to,

01:20:53.380 but I'm saying don't minimize

01:20:55.360 people who've been victimized as children.

01:20:58.480 I'm not. I'm talking about you directly.

01:21:00.520 So you don't have to make this.

01:21:01.980 You don't have to universalize it.

01:21:03.280 One that represents millions, Candace.

01:21:06.360 I don't think you represent millions, Victor Marks.

01:21:09.100 I really struggle, and I actually am hopeful that you don't represent millions.

01:21:12.500 I want to have a hopeful picture of the future in this country.

01:21:16.100 There are millions that follow me that suffer abuse, and that's why our films, our books, that's why me telling my story encourages and gives them hope.

01:21:25.780 That's as simple as that.

01:21:26.920 We'll never stop doing that.

01:21:28.660 Whether you believe it or not, that's not the point here.

01:21:30.820 The point is to say that I didn't suffer abuse the way I'm sharing it is horrible.

01:21:37.580 I'm not saying you didn't suffer some form of abuse.

01:21:39.360 I'm saying you didn't.

01:21:39.940 It's horrible.

01:21:40.780 I don't believe you wore a beheaded cat head after you beheaded it.

01:21:44.020 I just, I don't believe that.

01:21:44.880 If that's okay, if we can just agree to disagree on that one.

01:21:48.540 Just a lot of the mechanisms there just don't make sense to me.

01:21:51.980 You should talk to ICAC detectives, people who work on sex crimes against children, and kids who are abused and murdered.

01:21:58.700 There was a kid here, four years old, that was beat to death.

01:22:02.060 I believe kids are beat to death.

01:22:03.980 Yes, that's right.

01:22:05.280 Absolutely.

01:22:06.140 Wait, but if he was beat to death, he wasn't there, right?

01:22:09.380 Pardon me?

01:22:10.280 There was a kid that you said was there at your house, and then he got beat to death?

01:22:13.660 No.

01:22:14.040 Here in Colorado, recently, a four-year-old was beat to death by a caregiver.

01:22:18.920 Four years old.

01:22:19.100 Yeah, that happens all across the nation. 1.00

01:22:20.860 That's a believable story.

01:22:22.260 That's right.

01:22:22.860 And do you think they never suffer any type of torment or torture before that, or is it just an act?

01:22:27.600 I would struggle to believe that a three-year-old beheaded a cat and then had to wear it on their head.

01:22:33.280 I just struggle with that one.

01:22:34.900 if that's okay. The cat was dead. I didn't think it was alive after it was beheaded. I mean,

01:22:41.400 I don't think we're disagreeing on whether or not the cat was alive. Study voodoo. Candace, 1.00

01:22:45.900 do a short study in voodoo and understand voodoo rituals against boys. If you go deep enough, 0.99

01:22:53.480 you'll see how twisted it is. I'm not here to glorify darkness at all. That's not my point.

01:22:59.960 My point is that we bring life and hope and maybe some things that even you don't believe that

01:23:04.060 happened to me as a child, motivate me to help kids over these last 40 years, which is documented

01:23:10.800 and provable. I don't know why you feel you're the person who has to, but maybe I do now because

01:23:18.140 you just said it. If you lived in Colorado, you wouldn't vote for me. So maybe you're getting

01:23:23.380 paid by somebody to discourage a vote toward me, which is the only reason all this stuff,

01:23:28.260 I actually removed myself from politics altogether after Charlie got killed. I'm not

01:23:33.380 Well, but you didn't remove yourself because you just made a statement.

01:23:37.500 So, no, I said I don't live in Colorado, so it's not.

01:23:40.960 But if you did, you told people not to vote.

01:23:46.660 Yeah, I will be I will own that.

01:23:49.620 I have many times since the Charlie Kirk assassination and the lies surrounding his assassination have said.

01:23:56.320 Well, thanks for leaning into trying to dissuade people for voting for me and discredit me as a child.

01:24:03.380 who was abused.

01:24:05.140 I've given plenty of time.

01:24:06.460 It's supposed to be 30 minutes.

01:24:07.600 Do you have any follow-up questions?

01:24:09.460 Because I do have to end this, please.

01:24:11.660 Thank you very much for your time.

01:24:12.960 I wanted to make sure that I provided you equal time

01:24:14.740 to be able to answer some of the questions.

01:24:16.640 I think you did clarify some things.

01:24:18.260 I don't think anyone will ever forget

01:24:19.740 that you served for three years.

01:24:21.140 I won't.

01:24:21.660 I will make sure everybody knows that

01:24:22.860 from here all the way to Colorado.

01:24:24.440 This man served for three years.

01:24:27.260 And I think that's a thank you

01:24:28.800 for your service to this country.

01:24:31.060 You're welcome.

01:24:31.880 It's a great place to end.

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01:26:45.200 Man, I just, a lot, there's just a lot that could be said there.

01:26:49.820 And I'm sure you guys have a lot of comments about that.

01:26:52.620 It's a lot of cat jokes that could probably be written after this.

01:26:56.980 First and foremost, let's go through our top comments from yesterday's episode first.

01:27:00.640 Adriana Gomez came in with, whenever something is amiss, I think it should be referenced to

01:27:04.880 as neffed up.

01:27:07.240 It's neffed up is a great way of putting things.

01:27:09.900 Blakey neff.

01:27:10.600 Here, we're at 47 days, Blakey.

01:27:12.580 Here's my take, wrote, I really want to hear from Charlie's parents, you and I both, and

01:27:17.800 I think the entire world would love to hear from them.

01:27:19.580 And like I've said in previous episodes, I do know that they are, in fact, in a deep state of grief.

01:27:24.860 And I will just leave it at that.

01:27:26.980 I won't say how.

01:27:29.440 I've just heard some things, and I know that they are acting in a way that some people might have thought his widow might have acted following his death.

01:27:37.600 All right, let's get into some comments from today's episode.

01:27:40.280 We have Terrell writes, men like this are the reason I started reading the Bible recently.

01:27:46.160 Yeah, I mean, I think in regards to him talking about his faith, he is sort of like, the faith

01:27:51.440 is mine.

01:27:51.980 I have the Bible.

01:27:53.260 I can make it what I want.

01:27:54.260 It's one of the flaws that I find in Protestantism is that it becomes my truth very quickly.

01:28:00.620 And anybody can interpret every verse as they want, and they can make it a bumper sticker.

01:28:04.360 Or you can believe that you can do exactly what Christ does, and you can summon demons

01:28:09.980 and angels into a room.

01:28:11.500 So that's interesting.

01:28:12.480 Natty Nicole writes, as a vet, I am dying laughing at him crying about his time in service.

01:28:18.700 What a joke.

01:28:19.460 Yeah, I was like, I really think people who serve are a little tougher than that.

01:28:22.700 They could just answer the question like we weren't trying to diss them.

01:28:26.100 I said two years.

01:28:27.020 I think they thought it was four years.

01:28:28.840 We said two.

01:28:30.180 And he's like, you don't even know how to read this form.

01:28:31.920 And it's like, well, all right.

01:28:33.940 Three years, man.

01:28:34.900 It's all you.

01:28:36.060 Kat Babwatch writes, Christ has been my savior since 1982.

01:28:40.040 Since then, I have had a gift of discernment. This man is evil and he may know Christ, but I'm sure

01:28:45.640 Christ will say to him one day, I never knew you. Depart from me. The Gospel of Matthew, absolutely. 0.54

01:28:52.020 Julia writes, Army veteran of 10 years of service here, not offended. I'm offended that he was

01:28:57.200 begging for an apology. We served to defend our country, I thought. Feeling hurt over one last

01:29:01.620 year is wild. Great job holding your ground. Proud of you as always. Anytime somebody's like

01:29:05.000 demanding apology, I just find it to be weird. Like, why would you want an apology if I don't

01:29:08.960 actually if i'm not sorry it's just it's just like a weird power move say sorry to me it's like

01:29:13.120 not your kid man i'm not your kid we will not be demanding any apologies out of me um i don't owe

01:29:21.680 you an apology it was an honest mistake and you do come off like a crybaby um for taking it that 0.68

01:29:29.180 personally alaska dog lady writes no he did not dare call us tmu tmz this man is unstable christ

01:29:35.360 have mercy on our ears. I'm going to have to tell my priest that I will chill. Yeah, he did. He

01:29:39.640 called us Timu TMZ. And I think TMZ is pretty Timu. So that ain't good for us or something. But

01:29:44.420 you could see he just sort of like had that ready to go and then kept saying it. And it was just

01:29:48.380 weird. It just made me feel like it was a bit childish, to be honest. Munoz writes, I am no

01:29:54.160 body language interpreter, but Victor seems incredibly uncomfortable. Lying makes people

01:29:57.640 naturally uncomfortable. He just kind of strikes me as someone who's used to talking a lot. He 0.96

01:30:04.460 doesn't listen a lot, but he's used to just speaking all the time and letting people and

01:30:08.420 people believe him. And you can see that actually when we were watching some of the clips of him

01:30:12.240 on stage, he actually probably would have crushed it as a comedian. You know, he's got good timing

01:30:17.960 and he just believes everything that he says. He's not used to being challenged. You can see

01:30:21.860 that it sends him into a rage. Like when he said, oh, like I had to work. I used to punch holes in

01:30:26.180 walls. I'm like, I feel like you still need to work on your temper because you just came here

01:30:30.300 thinking that you were going to direct the conversation on my show, doesn't work like

01:30:35.520 that. Actually, it's my show. Kay Jorn writes, the gaslighting is insane. Him knowing Charlie

01:30:40.680 was dead as soon as he saw the video, but calling for prayer, then announcing he's dead. Yeah,

01:30:44.600 that part made no sense. I didn't buy it, but I allowed him to say that he's telling the way

01:30:49.160 that he wanted to. You continue with prayers to St. Michael the Archangel. Please stay safe,

01:30:55.020 Candice. I do that prayer every single day. It's a powerful prayer. I really do. I believe it is.

01:31:01.940 TN Cricket writes, tell me that you've never helped an abuse victim without saying that

01:31:05.560 you've never helped an abuse victim. Asking someone on a live show if they've ever been

01:31:09.500 abused, obviously expecting a no answer. The truth is not in him. You could just see the way

01:31:17.820 that he's kind of like, if you question me, you're questioning all abuse victims. It's like, no,

01:31:22.440 Most abuse victims don't say that they beheaded a cat when they were three.

01:31:26.300 And I'm able to complementalize that.

01:31:27.900 That, to me, as I said to him, felt like an emotionally manipulative tactic.

01:31:31.960 Like, I now represent—he said that.

01:31:33.860 He's like Trump when Trump's like, I am MAGA.

01:31:35.600 He's like, I am abuse victims.

01:31:37.780 Nobody, you're not.

01:31:39.640 Everybody knows people that have been abused.

01:31:41.760 And I've never seen people behave like that, like they are the authority on abuse.

01:31:46.500 And again, your character comes across when you speak.

01:31:49.440 He didn't represent himself well at all.

01:31:51.540 and he had the platform too. Sportnana writes, we stand with CO. Thank you very much.

01:31:58.740 Sevgames, a lot writes, Candice, can you please give a shout out to the free Wendy Williams

01:32:02.820 movement? Yeah, I should look into, I know a bit about that. We have not covered it on the show,

01:32:08.440 but it is crazy to think that a bank can just step in and take over your entire life.

01:32:12.860 We got to just start using cash again, guys. We got to get out of this system. Wait till they bring

01:32:16.020 like chips and digital IDs

01:32:18.680 want inserted into our arms.

01:32:20.880 They've got quite a dystopian

01:32:22.260 vision for the future.

01:32:24.920 Minnesota Lizzie writes,

01:32:25.900 Hey Candace, I look back

01:32:27.060 and Charlie Kirk did say

01:32:28.640 that his daughter's favorite song

01:32:30.100 is Jolene by Dolly Parton.

01:32:32.340 Hmm, I'm thinking 1.00

01:32:33.400 replace the female name

01:32:34.520 and it could be about mom,

01:32:36.240 a question mark.

01:32:37.500 Truth Prevail writes,

01:32:38.540 You definitely have a lot of patience

01:32:39.820 for dealing with this guy.

01:32:40.960 As a veteran myself,

01:32:41.940 no offense taken at all.

01:32:43.020 Victor is gaslighting 0.97

01:32:43.900 and he's also a narcissist. 0.97

01:32:44.800 he can't even answer a question without being belligerent. Yeah, that is the perfect adjective

01:32:49.920 for him. He's belligerent. And I don't think he's aware that he's belligerent. I think he thinks

01:32:54.940 he's calm and he thinks it's a rational thing to get all like bent out of shape about how many

01:32:59.080 years of service as if we meant it as a diss. It's just like, I don't know, man. It's not my

01:33:04.220 life. We're happy to correct it and just move on. And he's like, no, this is where I'm going to

01:33:07.480 crush you. This shows you're a disinformation platform. You said two, it was three. It's a 0.83

01:33:13.400 weird thing to be hung up about. And I always have a lot of patience with dealing with people

01:33:19.100 who I just see right through. And that, to me, that whole act is just someone who likes to be

01:33:25.780 in control, but hasn't even managed controlling his own emotions. The listening doctor writes,

01:33:30.620 I am a medical doctor and I will tell you that abused people abuse others. It is true,

01:33:35.040 but murder and animal abuse is another level. This man is dangerous and he is normalizing his

01:33:39.080 behavior and making abused people look bad. That is a very good point. And that's kind of what I

01:33:45.920 think I was trying to get at with him. I don't know if I was as eloquent as I could have been

01:33:49.240 in saying that this is different. You're talking about like killing an animal and wearing

01:33:52.500 an animal on your head. Like that's not standard abuse. That's like Jeffrey Dahmer. 0.97

01:34:01.420 Like when we see somebody who has a trait for a serial killer. And so they usually say abused

01:34:06.860 animals in their youth and then went on to become a serial killer when they were older i don't like

01:34:11.240 that background and i don't i just everything about that like i murdered a man when i was seven

01:34:15.980 and like i had to deal with that and everything's fine now and we don't know where the body is like

01:34:19.460 oh so you didn't know where you lived you drove around somewhere you don't know where you were

01:34:22.580 as i said i spoke to his direct relatives and they said it's just not true like that's just

01:34:28.680 not something that wouldn't have come up they were close to him so i guess he says he has a sister

01:34:34.300 not on his stepfather's side of the family

01:34:36.520 who can confirm that they experienced abuse.

01:34:39.580 I'm sure abuse has many names.

01:34:43.160 There are people who think they're abused

01:34:44.720 when somebody sends them a mean text message.

01:34:46.740 We can be talking about verbal abuse,

01:34:48.720 parents that shout and scream all the time.

01:34:51.520 And then you're talking about this level,

01:34:55.220 this rarely unlocked level of abuse

01:34:57.200 where you're saying you had to murder people

01:34:59.700 before you were seven 1.00

01:35:00.580 and behead a cat and wear its head.

01:35:02.900 and then said something about voodoo traditions, 0.66

01:35:06.100 which I know nothing about,

01:35:07.460 and I'm interested in how he knows.

01:35:09.280 Well, he's spending some time in Haiti.

01:35:12.220 Maybe.

01:35:14.140 I'll have to figure it out.

01:35:15.980 The Listening Doctor, I'm sorry, that was you.

01:35:17.800 Sarah Bryan writes,

01:35:18.860 conclusively, I pray for you, Candice.

01:35:20.200 If I ever was lucky enough to have a daughter,

01:35:22.320 I certainly would like her to be just like you,

01:35:25.060 honest, loving, and caring about others.

01:35:26.500 I know in my heart that you will find answers about Charlie.

01:35:29.360 I worry about the fact that these are the people

01:35:31.500 that Charlie surrounded himself with.

01:35:32.900 I worry about the fact that Charlie was even prayed over by someone like Victor Marks.

01:35:37.420 I don't find him to be, I said, many fantastical pastors that are around him, and none of them

01:35:45.600 feel godly to me.

01:35:47.560 They do all feel like they think they're gods in their own personal capacity, and that's

01:35:51.660 what you kind of get.

01:35:52.500 He's like, I read the Bible, so now I'm God, and I can do everything God can do.

01:35:55.920 Did you see it's right here in the Bible?

01:35:57.280 Don't you believe in the Bible?

01:35:58.980 Well, I'm here to interpret it for you and tell you what I can do. 0.99

01:36:02.080 That is someone that you should run from.

01:36:04.600 And Charlie was immersed in this world from Turning Point USA Faith, found him to be a

01:36:10.140 little reticent to discuss much about, you know, kind of leaving Erica out of the story.

01:36:13.700 Charlie was already married to her.

01:36:14.980 She was the one who was driving home Turning Point Faith.

01:36:18.020 In fact, Charlie said as much on stage in Aspen.

01:36:22.340 Notorious Aspen trip.

01:36:23.640 Charlie said when he mentioned Turning Point USA Faith that like his wife does a lot of

01:36:27.940 work for Turning Point USA Faith.

01:36:29.300 That was her thing.

01:36:30.420 and that would make sense

01:36:33.500 as to why she was very close with Eileen Marks.

01:36:36.540 Don't find any of this to be coincidental.

01:36:40.780 He is exactly what I thought he would be.

01:36:42.900 So what are we to make of his proximity

01:36:45.480 to Turning Point USA?

01:36:46.740 If we can discern that after me talking to him

01:36:49.660 for an hour,

01:36:51.520 why can nobody at Turning Point USA pick up on that?

01:36:55.020 Who's giving him an office?

01:36:56.240 Who's telling him to pray over Charlie?

01:36:57.980 Who's the person in Charlie's ear

01:36:59.360 saying you can trust this guy.

01:37:00.760 I think it's Erica.

01:37:02.840 I think it was Erica

01:37:04.300 who brought these people around

01:37:05.660 and pushed Charlie

01:37:06.400 to have relationships with them.

01:37:07.720 That's my viewpoint.

01:37:09.080 A lot of things changed 0.96

01:37:09.960 when Erica came into the picture

01:37:11.500 and I would argue

01:37:12.540 not for the better

01:37:14.120 in terms of the faith department.

01:37:16.360 Anyway,

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01:37:23.460 You can head there.

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01:37:26.060 contrary to what he says.

01:37:27.420 We are not funded

01:37:27.980 by any political PACs

01:37:29.220 parties. As you guys know, we are exclusively funded by you and our advertisers. There's

01:37:33.700 nobody else. There's no outside countries and certainly no politicians that we're doing work

01:37:38.460 for. We think you're weird for free. We think you're arrogant for free, Victor.

01:37:47.880 Anyway, we are way over time. We will see you guys tomorrow.

01:37:59.220 We'll be right back.

Candace Owens - May 20, 2026

LIVE With Victor Marx： What Did He Know About 9⧸10？｜ Candace Ep 341

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Candace Owens - May 20, 2026

LIVE With Victor Marx： What Did He Know About 9⧸10？ ｜ Candace Ep 341

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LIVE With Victor Marx： What Did He Know About 9⧸10？｜ Candace Ep 341