00:00:00.000All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. At least we hope it's going to be a happy Tuesday. We all
00:00:04.820have our fingers crossed for Thomas Massey down in Kentucky. Let's go, Thomas Massey. We'll see
00:00:10.300what happens. We got to start today with some sad news, some very sad news this morning because we
00:00:15.140are still being ghosted by the White House. I don't know why. It seems very weird. White House
00:00:21.160press team does not want to respond about that email. Is it real? Yes or no? I'm hurting. I slept
00:00:27.120with Brigitte Dahl last night. That's what I do when I'm having a really bad day. It's okay though
00:00:31.340because what we've done is we have since filed an FOIA request for the relative White House
00:00:36.680correspondence dinner emails. I think we're going to get lucky. Anyway, for today, we're not going
00:00:42.880to focus on that. Instead, we are going to bring you a conversation with the man, the myth, the
00:00:47.300legend, Victor Marks, gubernatorial candidate for Colorado. A fascinating guy, right? You got to
00:00:53.680just admit, he's fascinating. Another, dare I say, troubled faith leader tied to Turning Point USA.
00:01:00.360I mean, this could be the dawn of a new series. Fantastic Pastors and Where to Find Them. Welcome
00:01:07.120back to Candace. Okay, so we're not exactly burying the lead. As I said today, we are going
00:01:26.100to be joined by Victor Marks, Colorado's gubernatorial candidate. But I want to at first
00:01:30.980provide you with the refresher about who he is and why I am interested in him. So Victor Marks
00:01:38.220is very much a part of the Turning Point Faith Orbit. He is apparently extraordinarily close
00:01:45.160to Erica Kirk, right? So much so that he was the first that we could find to publicly announce that
00:01:51.140Charlie Kirk had passed away on September 10th on social media. I believe it was on Instagram.
00:01:56.540It was an hour and a half before the president of the United States made the announcement, even though he has since deleted that Instagram post.
00:02:05.440We then know that when Erica came home after bringing back Charlie's body in a casket aboard Air Force Two, Victor Marks and his wife Eileen were among the small circle of people who were welcomed into Erica's home to comfort her and to take photos of the grieving widow.
00:02:25.780So eventually those photos were shared on the Internet.
00:02:29.280Now, I am also informed that he presented her with a bulletproof car, transportation.
00:02:35.100He alluded to that in the Instagram post, getting her home, providing transportation to keep her and her children safe.
00:02:43.580And shortly thereafter, Victor Marks announced that he was running for governor of Colorado, a calling that he felt came from God in the wake of Charlie's assassination.
00:03:06.360And he has told a lot of stories about his childhood,
00:03:09.440namely surrounding his stepfather, Gloyce Dean Kennedy,
00:03:13.600abuse that he says that he endured at the hands of Gloyce,
00:03:17.840which that abuse began when Victor was just three years old.
00:03:21.280I'm going to show you more about what he says about that in a bit.
00:03:23.280What we do know about his stepfather is that Gloyce did serve in the army doing counterintelligence. He then pled guilty to a conspiracy to running an international drug smuggling ring, marijuana, out of Jamaica. Victor's brother, Mike Kennedy, also pled guilty as a co-conspirator, but he took a plea deal in exchange for testifying against his stepfather.
00:03:48.460Viktor Marx's biological dad was Karl Marx.
00:20:07.600the cat. Did you behead the cat at the age of three? Do you stand by that story?
00:20:13.400Did your team view social media as y'all are a quasi-investigative team by all your allegations?
00:20:21.560Did you see Corey's public statement about what happened and how this is very serious?
00:20:29.120They cannot locate this individual. You platform, Corby Hall, and both his wife.
00:20:35.380Victor, I just have to rebut you here and say that I don't necessarily trust what you are saying, given the fact that you don't want to answer just basic biological questions.
00:20:45.460And after having spoken with your family members who say that it's largely made up, I have no reason to believe anything that you're saying right now.
00:20:52.560So I'd like to just kind of focus on your character. We can talk about Corby. I have nothing to do with any pending investigations.
00:20:58.160I have not been contacted by law enforcement. So I'm not interested in having a discussion about information that I don't have.
00:21:05.380Candace, you seem to be a little afraid of truth, and what I once thought was a solid show years ago, you've turned this into a TMZ, and worse than TMZ, it's like a TMU version of it.
00:21:19.580I'm asking you, did your staff not see the statement that Corey Kennedy posted online?
00:21:26.660We're talking about a homicidal individual who has threatened to kill me, and your name was brought up in this?
00:21:32.900I have answered your question. I have not seen it. So I cannot have a conversation with you about that. What I can have a conversation with you about is the statements that you have publicly made since you are joining the show. And I would like to focus on your biographical items, because as I said, I've spoken with your family in Martinville, and they claim that your stories are fantastical.
00:21:51.760So I'm just asking you, and we can then get into some questions about the alleged gun sales that you were trying to conduct with Corby, which is what we discussed on the show and which we have seen evidence for.
00:22:04.680I cannot speak to you about something, a report that I have not seen that you claim is happening.
00:22:09.320And I would like to just kind of get you focused here because you're running for governor.
00:22:41.820I think he is using my platform to potentially spin some tails.
00:22:46.060The only thing that I heard was that there was an FBI investigation that was looking into you for guns, and that's all I've heard, and I'm not interested in that.
00:22:54.940I would like to now, since you have the stage, focus on you as a gubernatorial candidate and your background.
00:23:00.160And so if I could go back to that yes or no question, do you stand by this story that you beheaded a cat at the age of three?
00:25:23.320For someone who is just lambasted, innocent people, as an Internet bully, you're not used to someone come on the show holding your feet to the fire.
00:25:34.600My feet don't feel like they're held to the fire at all.
00:25:36.980I think you're kind of representing yourself as a little all over the place and unable to just present items as I'm giving you the opportunity to do.
00:26:21.660Give us the name of the person that you said that you walked in and told the police that you murdered, however many years ago, because your father forced you to.
00:26:31.040What was the name of the town you just mentioned?
00:26:54.540Okay, am I getting the name of the town wrong?
00:26:56.560Do you want to just tell us as opposed to trying to do a dunking on—where in Mississippi did you grow up?
00:27:03.320Ma'am, you're accusing me of a—that I'm not telling the truth on things.
00:27:09.300No, I'm just saying that you said you murdered a man, so if you could tell us what town that was in, that'd be helpful.
00:27:13.600it's in interviews i've done it's in our documentary and i'm telling you if you can
00:27:23.380at least get the town that i'm in how can we trust you with more information that you're
00:27:28.360bringing the bigger thing is the homicide that was committed so we can we can scrap about the
00:27:32.260town later if you don't want to say it uh are you saying you murdered a man anywhere in 50 states
00:27:37.320can you give us the name of the man that you were forced to murder i didn't know who he was
00:27:42.100You didn't know who he was. Okay. And you walked into a police station with this information and were told it doesn't matter anymore. Is that correct?
00:27:51.480Is that your assumption that I walked into a police station? Where did you hear that?
00:27:57.120That you confessed to, well, the reason why we know this information at all is because you've shared it publicly and said that they, okay, so why don't you reshare the story and what's happened with that story since?
00:28:10.920Well, why don't you present it accurately so I don't have to keep correcting you?
00:28:14.520The whole point of me having you on the show and giving you the platform is not so that you can quiz me on your background, but rather so that you could just answer the questions and share the story in its correct context with the right city so you don't have to worry about misinformation because you have a platform right now. Go ahead.
00:28:30.540Well, Candace, I have a platform without you. We have 4 million followers. And listen, I've been on much bigger programs than yours. I don't need yours to clarify what we're doing. But what you're doing is making slanderous accusations that are incorrect at the very basic level. So, no, I did not walk into a police station. I called the sheriff's department and made the claim many years later. Does that help? I'm doing the job for you.
00:30:23.960You want to be the governor of Colorado.
00:30:25.400So, you know, figuring out whether or not you tell fantastical stories or whether or not you're able to tell the truth is kind of important for voters, I would say.
00:30:33.400And I'm inclined to think that you tell some whoppers because the trying to make it emotional and say, well, have you ever suffered sexual abuse?
00:30:43.220OK, so I don't know that there are many people who can say that I had to kill someone or behead a cat when I was seven years old and bury the body in the backyard.
00:30:59.580I would like to—this is actually very important.
00:31:01.940If this is an unsolved crime, you don't know who this man is.
00:31:04.700Where did this—I'd like you to just tell a little bit more about what the sheriff said to you when you called and said that you buried him in your backyard.
00:31:11.720It's interesting, though, that you're claiming my family members from Martinville, Louisiana, claim this never happened.
00:31:19.960I am six years old, and never once has my family refuted any of this.
00:31:25.180As a matter of fact, my sister was on my documentary film, The Victor Marks Story, which folks can watch.
00:31:31.940It's a documentary on YouTube, and she actually completely solidifies the abuse because she went through it.
00:32:42.880But also somebody could be missing a relative that got murdered.
00:32:47.180So I do think it is relative, like, to you running for governor to know why a sheriff, as you tell it, would decline to look into the matter if someone was killed and buried in your backyard.
00:32:59.860Right. Right here at our leadership training center, we've got members from ICAC.
00:33:20.340I work to become the man that I wish someone had been when I was a kid to protect me.
00:33:27.420What I'm saying, and when we talk about kids suffering abuse, or in my case, abuse,
00:33:33.120and then forced to shoot someone, yes, I was older in life before I went to the police
00:33:39.700because it's a horrific thing to deal with.
00:33:42.040The reason why, it is a cold case, it was 40 years old, we don't know where the house is, we don't know where he was buried, we don't know who the victim was.
00:33:52.620And my grandfather, it was my stepfather at the time, he was put in prison for unrelated charges to murder, but it was, sadly, drug use and bringing it in.
00:42:41.780How did you meet Charlie and or Erica?
00:42:47.560I was speaking at an event at a small Hispanic church in California, and Charlie was scheduled to speak, and the pastor asked me last minute to speak.
00:44:26.140Okay. So obviously a big question that we have had is you were first to post a video that was later on removed saying that Charlie had passed.
00:44:36.320And this video was about an hour and 20 minutes before the president's announcement.
00:44:42.360It would have been to the minute about the time that his family found out that he had passed away.
00:44:49.620Or the people that were at the hospital had found out that he had passed away.
00:44:52.820So do you explain how you found that out?
00:44:56.140and why you chose to remove the video?
00:44:59.140Well, yeah, I'm first interested to find out why y'all think I was the first
00:45:04.840or one of the first, you know, to do that.
00:47:55.620I struggle with that one a little bit.
00:47:57.080I think that's quite audacious for someone to, because you did make a post initially saying he had been shot, pray for him, and then you did a follow-up and then said, you know, Charlie is passed on and said pray for Erica.
00:48:08.640So it just seems like there was some information in the corridor there that led you to that conclusion.
00:48:14.720And also in terms of the people who did post early on, I believe Jack Hibbs, Amir Safari, I think I'm saying his last name probably incorrectly.
00:48:24.860definitely all a part of that same sort of turning point faith orbit of pastors. And
00:48:31.460Jack Hibbs took down a video saying that actually there was an Israel channel that reported it first
00:48:37.500and had the information before anybody else. I'm not aware of that. Yeah. So I was wondering if
00:48:42.460you were all perhaps sharing information, but you're saying you just did that by yourself,
00:48:46.500no information. Well, the first post I made was to ask for prayer. And I knew just my gut level
00:48:54.220from watching it he's not gonna make it and then but we believe in prayer and if nothing else it's
00:49:00.760going to be for those who are with them those who secondary trauma effects of you're supposed to be
00:49:07.740guarding someone who's killed next eric and the kids the first one we went to that's why i texted
00:49:13.320and said you're safe they're not going to come for you because how terrifying to know someone's just
00:49:18.460murdered assassinated your husband and when i posted the second time that it had been a little
00:49:25.900time and i just kind of spoke from my heart regarding it but but what i don't understand is
00:49:32.200why the inquisition on that from you well because we just wanted to know where the information came
00:49:37.700from obviously if we're looking into everything that happened that day we're going to look at
00:49:40.700who was the first to announce that charlie died and you were very early and you removed it also
00:49:45.780So it was an interesting item that people obviously have questions about.
00:59:21.860And you say that you're in this business and that you do everything and the people that
00:59:25.760say you're not that person are all troubled.
00:59:27.560For example, the young woman that you said you rescued from a pedophile who says another
00:59:32.060story and she makes the claim that she believes that you're a part of the trafficking ring.
00:59:37.040How is it possible for people to be able to prod that narrative if you can always just claim, well, the people that we help need privacy?
00:59:44.420I mean, that would be a perfect setup for like Jeffrey Epstein, right?
00:59:47.360I mean, if you just want to traffic people and then say, well, you know, we can't tell you where these people are because we've got to protect their identity and we've got to protect everything about them.
00:59:57.100Candice, I think that's not a bad question because there are no doubt, and there's no doubt in my mind, that there are organizations that are actually traffickers that pose as counter-trafficking.
01:00:12.920We've been doing this for, gosh, many years, and we work by-through and went law enforcement.
01:00:20.540In other countries, we still work through government agencies, and the best way to prove
01:00:29.840the authenticity of claims is two ways, or three if you want to go all the way.
01:00:36.860One is people who've been on the mission, credible individuals.
01:00:41.020I have quite a list of operators who've done security work, intelligence gathering part,
01:00:46.640who either still have or did have the highest level of clearance in the U.S.
01:00:50.880that worked for the CIA or Joint Task Force or Delta.
01:00:55.960This is not something that people winch at
01:01:01.120because we have a history of high credibility and integrity.
01:01:06.040Yeah, so the CIA, I would say, is the biggest trafficking organization in the world.
01:01:09.580So that's not a vote of confidence, right?
01:01:11.320So if you say, oh, I did it with the CIA or the IDF,
01:01:14.260I go, yeah, we'll go to Jeffrey Epstein, right?
01:01:16.300Right. So that doesn't, I don't think that that, like, saying I do it for the government doesn't lend credibility.
01:01:22.020Well, let me clarify. I don't disagree with your statement.
01:01:25.400There are very corrupt governments, and I work for none of them.
01:01:28.780I work around the governments, but I've never been paid by any of them.
01:01:33.540When I say CIA, I'm talking about former men and women who have worked for the agency and bring a set of skill sets that are trustworthy for us.
01:01:45.360And the third way would be the actual victims themselves.
01:01:49.780We just got a video from Southeast Asia.
01:01:53.380I didn't ask for, but one of our safe houses there, they were so hurt and disgusted by the false allegations against me.
01:02:03.680And it's only happened since I've entered the political realm, which is a completely different beast.
01:04:47.540And five, the very point couple in Canada that was our, I would say, our Agents of Hope up there, have video that they just posted yesterday of Holly telling the truth about what we did to help her.
01:05:06.300And look, I've had those videos, but I've never put them out since they reached out to Holly.
01:05:12.840And it wasn't Holly that reached out.0.98
01:05:15.140It was Holly's pedophile who groomed this girl since she was 13, had sex with her at 15.1.00
01:05:22.780She is a, sadly, a very damaged individual.0.98
01:05:44.900The last thing they did, and I was told that these folks here who are trying to discredit me, Candace, told her if you and Les will sue Victor, force, you know, try to get them for trafficking, you'll be able to make millions.
01:06:09.600Just in your ministries, in these relationships that you've had with people that claim that they find you to be manipulative and abusive, have you ever done anything wrong?
01:06:21.120Candace, I'm human. I've messed up plenty.
01:06:24.720But in the air of integrity, I've never intentionally gone after anybody.
01:06:29.940I've never manipulated, maligned, or tried to do things for money.
01:06:37.640So, yeah, I mean, watch my film, read one of my two books.
01:06:42.900I talk about plenty of self-evident ways that I depend on the grace of God.
01:06:50.260But I don't know if it's that hard to believe that somebody that came from my background
01:06:55.480who feel like I've been given a second chance in life, my goal as a kid growing up was to
01:07:01.200become the man that I wish somebody would have been to help save me.
01:07:05.160and I turn around and God redeems my life for a greater good?
01:07:09.020What's so hard to believe about that, that I made right choices?
01:07:42.240But my passion is I love people because I'm loved by God.
01:07:46.500And I don't know why, only since I've come into this space of running for governor, has all hell broke loose.
01:07:55.220I think people are just looking into your background and they have some questions about, you know, it just seems a little bit fantastical, your relationships with the IDF.
01:08:03.480I mean, personally, if I was in college—
01:08:32.600So after October 7th, we played the clip on our show when you were on Charlie Kirk's show.
01:08:36.820Do you know what I did there, Candice?
01:08:40.100I can say what you said on the Charlie Kirk show, that you went there after October 7th to be able to tell the story of what happened there and to separate propaganda.
01:11:53.560I said from the beginning, this could be stopped.
01:11:54.980No, I don't mean as Israel as a victim.0.75
01:11:56.400I'm saying now I think the victim has flipped, obviously.
01:11:59.900Oh, I think innocent people on both sides paid a price, paid a horrible price.
01:12:08.060But do you believe what's happening in Gaza is a genocide?
01:12:10.340I would say this, it has turned into a genocide, but the question I have to ask, and you should be asking too, why didn't Hamas stop firing rockets when we were there doing humanitarian work?
01:12:25.860There was over 2,000 rockets fired at us in the areas that we were at.0.54
01:16:56.780You don't have to turn yourself in if there's not a warrant for your arrest.
01:17:00.780Respectfully, like, that's not how that works.
01:17:02.520They just have to call them. I think that's a perfect place to leave that. Let's not pretend. If you said there was a warrant for his arrest, that'd be a little different, but you are not required in any of the 50 states to turn yourself in because somebody says, okay, we're going to try to make some contact with this person. You have not said that he's not answering.
01:17:20.320I just want to stay away from the fantastical stories and the narratives and just stick to the facts.
01:17:26.620Like I said, I've heard that there's an open investigation into you and has something to do with guns.
01:17:31.940I don't know, but I wouldn't just assert things.
01:21:03.280One that represents millions, Candace.
01:21:06.360I don't think you represent millions, Victor Marks.
01:21:09.100I really struggle, and I actually am hopeful that you don't represent millions.
01:21:12.500I want to have a hopeful picture of the future in this country.
01:21:16.100There are millions that follow me that suffer abuse, and that's why our films, our books, that's why me telling my story encourages and gives them hope.
01:27:29.440I've just heard some things, and I know that they are acting in a way that some people might have thought his widow might have acted following his death.
01:27:37.600All right, let's get into some comments from today's episode.
01:27:40.280We have Terrell writes, men like this are the reason I started reading the Bible recently.
01:27:46.160Yeah, I mean, I think in regards to him talking about his faith, he is sort of like, the faith