Candace Owens - August 13, 2024


MAGA Civil War?! What’s going on with the Trump Campaign… | Candace Ep 44


Episode Stats

Length

38 minutes

Words per Minute

186.6003

Word Count

7,272

Sentence Count

485

Misogynist Sentences

42

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

Nick Fuentes has declared war on the MAGA campaign, and it's time for Groyper's War 2, AKA "The Groyppers' War" on the Trump campaign. Join us as we discuss it all, including the fact that Candice Owens will no longer be my guest on her podcast, and why we should all get on board the Groypers' bandwagon. Also, Metrolinx and Crosslink are reminding everyone to be careful as Eglinton Crosstown LRT train testing is in progress, so be alert as trains can pass at any time on the tracks. Remember to stay safe, and stay safe! Stay safe, everyone! Tweet me and let us know what you thought of the episode! Timestamps: 4:00 - JoJo Siwa's list of 5 people she won't be having on her show 11:15 - Why Candice and I do not f*** with each other 16:30 - Why I don't want to go on JoJo's podcast 17:00- Why I'm never going to be on Jojo's show again 18:40 - Who are the real Groypher Wars? 19:10 - What is Groypers' War? 22:30- Why we need another Groypar's War? 23:15- Who's winning? Is it time for a Groypter War? 24:00 25:00 -- Why we should get on the bandwagon? 26:30 -- What are the best option? 27:15 -- Who are we fighting for? 29: What do we want? 35:30 36: Does it serve us better? 39:00 Is it better than the Trump movement? 45:00 | What is the best thing we can do for us? Theme song by Ian Dorsch? Music by Ian McKellen Theme Song by Ian Somerhalder Theme Music by Jeff Kaale ( ) Download MP3 Music by Skynyrd ( ) Theme by Ian Macpherson ( ) & Mark Phillips ( ) is Download MPB ( ) Subscribe to our new album "Goodbye" Subscribe to my insta Subscribe on iTunes Music by Cranky (RADIO (RSS) Subscribe on Podchords (RUNNER) Subscribe Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (Coming Soon! Download on iTunes Learn more about you're listening to my Podcasts?


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00:00:00.000 Metrolinx and Crosslinks are reminding everyone to be careful
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00:00:26.580 All right, everybody, I'm still coming at you from Europe.
00:00:30.080 Very sad news, by the way.
00:00:32.300 I recently found out that I'm never going to achieve my life goal
00:00:35.100 of going on JoJo Siwa's podcast.
00:00:38.140 Remember JoJo Siwa from Dance Moms?
00:00:40.900 Well, she's recently come right out and said that she's got a list of five people
00:00:44.020 who she will never host on her podcast, and I'm on it.
00:00:47.000 Take a listen.
00:00:47.880 Five people that I will not be having on JoJo Siwa now.
00:00:50.820 Candice Owens, I think it's pretty self-explanatory.
00:00:52.700 Her and I do not f*** with each other.
00:00:55.320 Well, that's news to me.
00:00:56.520 I'm deeply upset.
00:00:57.140 Yeah, you're probably wondering, Candice,
00:00:58.060 was it really on your life goals list to be hosted by JoJo Siwa?
00:01:03.120 No, but I still have some thoughts on what she has said about me,
00:01:06.720 and she said a little bit more.
00:01:08.060 I'll tell you them in a second.
00:01:09.120 But first, guys, obviously we have to talk about
00:01:11.880 all of this conservative infighting.
00:01:13.800 Please do not shoot the messenger.
00:01:15.480 I feel like every time I talk about the MAGA campaign
00:01:18.340 and what it's maybe doing wrong,
00:01:20.080 I am a messenger that gets shot.
00:01:21.560 But, oh, well, we've got to be honest about it
00:01:23.740 because, like I said, there are some serious,
00:01:26.440 there is some serious infighting going on,
00:01:28.680 and they're terming it the Groyper Wars.
00:01:32.020 Let's talk about it.
00:01:32.960 That's what's coming up on Candice.
00:01:34.240 So I'm overseas in Europe,
00:01:50.500 periodically checking in to see what's going on
00:01:53.480 in the American political world.
00:01:55.160 And I was pretty shocked when I saw Groyper War
00:01:59.240 trending on Twitter,
00:02:00.960 literally overseas here in Europe.
00:02:03.200 That's how big of a trend it was.
00:02:04.800 And I was shocked by it
00:02:05.880 because obviously I've discussed the fact
00:02:07.480 that you have these anonymous accounts
00:02:10.420 which feature a frog,
00:02:13.300 like Pepe the Frog is what is featured on them.
00:02:15.680 And essentially they have amassed independently
00:02:18.400 tons of followers across the internet.
00:02:20.540 And the movement is led by Nick Fuentes.
00:02:22.320 And apparently, according to this trend on Twitter,
00:02:24.560 Nick Fuentes has declared war on the MAGA campaign
00:02:28.020 and people are writing about it all over,
00:02:30.080 what's actually going on.
00:02:31.400 Well, I will allow you to hear
00:02:33.340 what exactly Nick Fuentes said
00:02:35.880 in his declaration of MAGA war.
00:02:38.740 Is that what we're calling it?
00:02:39.480 Take a listen.
00:02:40.500 Dare I say it?
00:02:43.680 I am declaring
00:02:44.980 a new Groyper War
00:02:49.420 against the Trump campaign
00:02:52.120 until we can figure out
00:02:55.960 what the hell is going on.
00:03:01.580 I'm declaring a new Groyper War.
00:03:04.680 You have alienated us.
00:03:06.840 You have ignored us.
00:03:09.460 You don't listen to our concerns.
00:03:12.100 We have been left behind.
00:03:13.300 The Trump movement and the GOP
00:03:15.800 have moved on without us.
00:03:17.520 It serves Israel and corporations
00:03:19.980 and immigrants,
00:03:20.860 but it doesn't serve Native Americans.
00:03:23.860 What about Native Americans?
00:03:26.000 What about Americans?
00:03:28.340 What about young white men?
00:03:31.140 And others too.
00:03:32.580 But what about us?
00:03:34.180 Charlie Kirk is to the right of Trump
00:03:38.840 on immigration?
00:03:39.920 That's unacceptable.
00:03:45.840 So I think it's time
00:03:47.020 for another Groyper War.
00:03:48.460 We're bigger,
00:03:49.820 better,
00:03:50.640 stronger than ever.
00:03:52.840 I'm on Twitter.
00:03:54.080 I'm on Rumble.
00:03:54.900 This is a big live stream
00:03:57.160 every night.
00:03:57.920 We have allies,
00:03:58.980 so I think it's time
00:04:00.040 to up the ante a little bit.
00:04:02.620 Joker 2 is premiering in October.
00:04:06.300 Joker 2?
00:04:08.820 Five-year anniversary.
00:04:10.620 The show is back.
00:04:11.740 We're opening the chest.
00:04:13.880 I think it's time
00:04:15.020 for Groyper War 2.
00:04:19.540 And this time,
00:04:20.960 we're going all out.
00:04:22.860 Justice wants
00:04:25.560 and we will bring the energy.
00:04:30.080 It's just a question
00:04:31.020 of whether they want to
00:04:32.160 get on board
00:04:33.240 or get out of the way.
00:04:35.120 That's the question.
00:04:36.160 But we will bring,
00:04:37.720 the Groypers will bring the energy.
00:04:40.220 Memes,
00:04:41.100 edits,
00:04:42.140 replies,
00:04:43.820 trolls.
00:04:48.780 Get with us
00:04:49.740 or get the f*** out of the way.
00:04:51.160 Groyper War 2
00:04:52.020 coming soon.
00:04:53.640 Okay.
00:04:54.180 So this video
00:04:56.140 or this clip
00:04:57.080 of a longer episode
00:04:58.360 on Nick Fuentes' show
00:04:59.360 sent the media
00:05:00.180 into a tizzy.
00:05:01.460 First and foremost,
00:05:02.040 if you're not familiar
00:05:02.660 about what the first
00:05:04.260 Groyper War was about,
00:05:05.160 essentially,
00:05:05.820 you had a bunch
00:05:06.440 of young kids,
00:05:07.700 I would probably say,
00:05:08.720 between the ages
00:05:09.280 of 18 and 23
00:05:10.820 who were showing up
00:05:11.660 on college campuses
00:05:12.560 and essentially
00:05:13.680 calling out people
00:05:14.860 that they believed
00:05:15.800 were neocons,
00:05:17.220 essentially people
00:05:18.120 that were rhinos
00:05:19.600 pretending to care
00:05:20.600 about American interests
00:05:21.740 but effectively
00:05:22.580 having sold themselves
00:05:23.800 out to some broader cause.
00:05:26.340 Let's call it
00:05:26.760 the military-industrial complex
00:05:28.440 or,
00:05:29.740 as one example,
00:05:30.480 I distinctly recall
00:05:31.760 them showing up
00:05:32.580 to a Turning Point event
00:05:33.940 and saying,
00:05:34.480 oh, you know,
00:05:34.880 hey, Charlie Kirk,
00:05:35.480 you say that you are
00:05:36.940 fighting for Christianity.
00:05:38.040 Well,
00:05:38.180 why are you paying people
00:05:39.840 like Dave Rubin,
00:05:41.540 who is a gay married man,
00:05:43.080 to come speak
00:05:43.660 at your events?
00:05:44.840 And really kind of
00:05:45.420 putting people's feet
00:05:45.980 to the fire
00:05:46.500 on these issues
00:05:47.540 in a way
00:05:47.940 that was sometimes
00:05:48.760 uncomfortable.
00:05:49.920 But I thought,
00:05:50.640 and I remember
00:05:51.040 going through this
00:05:51.520 with Charlie,
00:05:51.980 that actually
00:05:52.600 we have to be able
00:05:53.800 to answer those questions.
00:05:54.700 Like,
00:05:55.020 if we're going to be
00:05:55.700 a part of a movement
00:05:56.400 and we say
00:05:57.040 that we are on the right,
00:05:58.340 then we need to
00:05:59.320 not be scared
00:06:00.480 when our ideas
00:06:01.600 are challenged.
00:06:02.860 Now,
00:06:03.140 this sort of led
00:06:03.800 to a media backlash
00:06:04.700 and all of the Gripers
00:06:06.300 were essentially
00:06:07.200 put into a pile
00:06:08.800 and termed
00:06:09.820 white supremacists
00:06:10.760 and I always thought
00:06:11.680 that that was inaccurate
00:06:13.060 and it was wrong
00:06:14.060 because I was
00:06:15.260 on those college campuses
00:06:16.140 and I actually thought
00:06:17.140 that some of the questions
00:06:17.720 they were asking
00:06:18.300 were meaningful.
00:06:19.420 Like,
00:06:19.680 if we do say
00:06:20.460 that we are conservatives
00:06:21.420 and we are Christians,
00:06:22.640 why are we platforming
00:06:24.000 so many gay married people?
00:06:25.580 I think it's a fair question
00:06:26.760 that we have to be prepared
00:06:27.540 to answer.
00:06:28.080 Now,
00:06:28.180 there might be
00:06:28.840 an answer to that.
00:06:30.600 Some people might say,
00:06:31.320 oh,
00:06:31.480 well,
00:06:31.800 you can be gay married
00:06:33.500 and be a Republican,
00:06:34.980 which,
00:06:35.240 by the way,
00:06:35.800 I think you can be gay married
00:06:37.800 and be a Republican
00:06:38.360 because you're basically saying,
00:06:39.680 well,
00:06:39.820 I align with the Republican Party
00:06:40.940 maybe on the economics
00:06:44.200 and I'm putting
00:06:46.080 the social aspects,
00:06:47.100 I'm ranking
00:06:47.740 the social aspects
00:06:49.020 lower on my scale
00:06:51.560 of who I would vote for.
00:06:52.260 I don't really care
00:06:52.800 about what they think
00:06:53.520 about gay marriage.
00:06:54.480 I care more about
00:06:55.160 what they're going to do
00:06:55.740 for taxes and the economy.
00:06:57.680 But if you're going
00:06:58.540 to present yourself
00:06:59.120 as a Christian,
00:07:00.600 if Christianity
00:07:01.300 is going to be
00:07:02.400 the thing that,
00:07:03.160 hey,
00:07:03.500 we want to preserve
00:07:04.320 Christianity
00:07:04.860 and I'm a Christian Republican,
00:07:06.600 then it gets a little bit
00:07:07.480 more complicated.
00:07:09.040 Anyways,
00:07:09.520 so that was,
00:07:10.420 I guess,
00:07:10.940 considered the first
00:07:11.660 corporate war
00:07:12.120 and now we're at
00:07:12.560 the second corporate war
00:07:13.240 but these concerns
00:07:14.280 that they're bringing up,
00:07:15.300 I would not dismiss these
00:07:16.540 as the concerns
00:07:17.380 of some fringe alt-right
00:07:19.180 white supremacist group
00:07:21.660 because the reality is,
00:07:23.200 this is going to upset
00:07:24.140 a lot of people,
00:07:24.760 I want to be very clear,
00:07:25.620 I am voting for Trump
00:07:26.640 because he is
00:07:27.340 the better candidate
00:07:28.200 between him
00:07:30.640 and Kamala Harris
00:07:31.960 and the coup
00:07:32.760 that was just established
00:07:33.980 on the left
00:07:34.920 and my concerns
00:07:35.780 about what they will do
00:07:36.860 if they actually
00:07:38.020 get into power.
00:07:38.960 There is no doubt
00:07:39.480 in my mind
00:07:40.040 that Trump
00:07:40.500 is the better candidate
00:07:41.260 but I cannot say
00:07:42.580 that statement
00:07:43.120 without also being honest
00:07:44.520 about the fact
00:07:45.240 that something feels
00:07:46.860 a little different
00:07:47.280 right now.
00:07:48.300 A few weeks ago,
00:07:49.240 Donald Trump survived
00:07:50.140 an assassination attempt
00:07:51.040 and it was very clear
00:07:51.880 to me
00:07:52.320 and I think
00:07:52.780 to the entire world
00:07:53.700 that he was going
00:07:54.720 to win the election
00:07:56.540 because he emerged
00:07:57.640 as a leader
00:07:58.900 in his response
00:08:00.280 and in his speeches
00:08:01.760 thereafter
00:08:02.420 in the way that he
00:08:03.520 communicated with the crowd,
00:08:04.640 he just,
00:08:05.020 it just seemed so obvious
00:08:06.060 that in order to defeat
00:08:07.440 the deep state
00:08:07.960 who I believe
00:08:08.620 was behind this
00:08:09.200 assassination attempt
00:08:10.020 that we needed
00:08:10.500 to elect Trump
00:08:11.680 but things have changed
00:08:13.480 in just a very short time.
00:08:15.500 It just,
00:08:15.960 the energy
00:08:16.600 of the MAGA campaign
00:08:17.780 feels very different.
00:08:19.260 Now,
00:08:19.560 at first,
00:08:20.340 I was owing that
00:08:21.060 to the fact
00:08:21.660 that there has to be
00:08:23.100 some reasonable trepidation.
00:08:24.660 You don't just survive
00:08:25.500 an assassination attempt
00:08:26.560 and just keep going
00:08:27.440 and you don't come out of that
00:08:28.440 not being a fundamentally
00:08:31.220 changed person
00:08:32.240 and I think,
00:08:33.020 by the way,
00:08:33.240 for the better,
00:08:34.060 like, you know,
00:08:34.400 really recognizing
00:08:35.340 how precious life is,
00:08:36.720 maybe perhaps being
00:08:37.440 further committed
00:08:38.160 to Christian principles
00:08:41.160 as a leader.
00:08:42.480 You know,
00:08:42.640 you're going to be changed
00:08:43.920 having survived
00:08:44.640 an assassination attempt
00:08:45.740 but there is something else
00:08:47.800 that seems to have happened
00:08:49.460 where I'm just not sure
00:08:52.220 who is driving
00:08:53.620 the MAGA bus anymore,
00:08:54.940 okay?
00:08:55.440 And I want to be clear,
00:08:56.720 again,
00:08:57.040 that these are not,
00:08:57.920 just because you're hearing
00:08:58.680 these concerns
00:08:59.520 from Nick Fuentes
00:09:00.380 does not mean
00:09:00.960 that Nick Fuentes
00:09:01.480 is the only person
00:09:02.320 that feels this way.
00:09:03.520 I'll give you
00:09:03.780 just another example.
00:09:04.720 Ashley St. Clair,
00:09:05.600 she's somebody
00:09:06.000 that I follow on Twitter.
00:09:07.260 I think she's very funny.
00:09:08.780 She tweeted this,
00:09:09.900 MAGA energy
00:09:10.640 is very strange lately.
00:09:12.540 Trump campaign
00:09:13.400 needs a shakeup.
00:09:14.760 I don't think anybody
00:09:15.640 is accusing Ashley St. Clair
00:09:17.080 of being a griper.
00:09:18.260 In fact,
00:09:18.620 she's usually at war
00:09:19.900 a lot of the times
00:09:20.620 with the gripers
00:09:21.320 but she's sensing
00:09:22.160 the exact same thing.
00:09:23.300 I am not a griper.
00:09:24.040 I am sensing
00:09:24.540 the exact same thing.
00:09:25.880 And so when I answered Ashley,
00:09:27.080 when I saw this tweet,
00:09:27.960 I responded to her on Twitter
00:09:28.980 and I said,
00:09:31.360 you know,
00:09:31.720 it reminds me,
00:09:32.820 this moment kind of reminds me
00:09:34.200 of a conversation
00:09:34.720 that I had
00:09:35.240 with Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:09:36.080 I think Trump
00:09:37.180 should have picked
00:09:37.640 Vivek Ramaswamy
00:09:38.280 as his VP.
00:09:39.540 I felt very strongly
00:09:40.460 about Vivek Ramaswamy
00:09:41.720 and his general energy
00:09:43.020 and his general philosophy.
00:09:44.740 But he and I
00:09:45.720 were discussing
00:09:46.280 what it was
00:09:47.380 that failed
00:09:47.920 about the Ron DeSantis campaign.
00:09:50.480 What was it about
00:09:51.100 the Ron DeSantis campaign
00:09:52.540 that despite the fact
00:09:54.460 that all of the donors
00:09:55.960 lined up
00:09:56.740 and all of the press
00:09:58.380 lined up
00:09:58.960 and his wife
00:10:00.220 was suddenly emerging
00:10:02.200 as Jackie O
00:10:03.720 in the way
00:10:04.220 that she was dressing
00:10:05.060 and it seemed
00:10:06.620 so self-evident
00:10:08.360 that of course
00:10:09.340 he could just take on
00:10:10.400 Donald Trump
00:10:10.820 and win.
00:10:11.180 Despite all of that,
00:10:12.740 the press,
00:10:13.300 the money,
00:10:14.020 the glamour,
00:10:15.400 his campaign failed.
00:10:17.220 And Vivek Ramaswamy
00:10:17.760 said to me,
00:10:18.220 he said,
00:10:19.020 because sometimes
00:10:20.840 when you're a startup,
00:10:23.080 having too much money
00:10:24.440 can actually hurt you.
00:10:26.660 And that's actually
00:10:27.120 very wise.
00:10:28.100 It's a very wise perspective.
00:10:29.820 It's a very wise reflection
00:10:32.000 of what happened
00:10:32.660 with his campaign.
00:10:33.920 And it actually says
00:10:35.320 a lot about
00:10:35.940 what was successful
00:10:37.520 in 2015
00:10:39.040 when Donald Trump
00:10:40.380 was running
00:10:40.800 and the entire
00:10:41.760 mainstream media apparatus
00:10:42.880 was against him.
00:10:43.560 They said,
00:10:43.800 there's no way
00:10:44.040 he's going to win.
00:10:44.700 And maybe deep down
00:10:46.000 Trump also thought
00:10:47.040 there's no way
00:10:47.600 I'm going to win.
00:10:48.540 Nobody was giving him
00:10:49.420 any money.
00:10:50.400 No one cared
00:10:50.920 what he had to say.
00:10:51.700 He was getting no airtime.
00:10:53.040 All of the mainstream media
00:10:53.940 pundits hated him,
00:10:55.320 right?
00:10:55.520 Even the people
00:10:56.020 that were supposed
00:10:56.820 to be nice to him
00:10:57.640 traditionally,
00:10:58.480 like the conservative media,
00:10:59.940 Fox News,
00:11:00.600 who could forget
00:11:01.220 the infamous
00:11:01.940 Megyn Kelly
00:11:03.500 back-forth
00:11:04.140 that he had with her.
00:11:05.040 Everyone was lying
00:11:05.820 about everything
00:11:06.160 that he said.
00:11:06.860 They were in locks up
00:11:07.900 and agreeing
00:11:08.340 that it couldn't be Trump,
00:11:10.200 right?
00:11:11.220 And so Trump
00:11:12.080 had to get creative.
00:11:13.080 And in his creativity,
00:11:14.100 he decided to just
00:11:14.900 commit himself
00:11:15.440 to the truth.
00:11:16.820 Donald Trump
00:11:17.100 was just saying
00:11:18.040 what was on the minds
00:11:19.320 of all Americans.
00:11:20.780 He was not playing politics
00:11:22.380 because politics
00:11:23.480 had no interest
00:11:24.640 in Donald Trump.
00:11:25.720 So he said
00:11:26.580 exactly what it was
00:11:27.500 that we wanted to hear.
00:11:28.620 He called them liars.
00:11:29.960 He called them
00:11:31.540 fake news.
00:11:32.760 First time we saw
00:11:33.740 someone that was
00:11:34.320 really kind of saying
00:11:35.260 F the media,
00:11:36.940 right?
00:11:37.280 Just F the media.
00:11:38.180 I don't care what the media
00:11:38.840 say.
00:11:39.180 They're all a bunch
00:11:39.860 of liars.
00:11:40.640 And we're tired
00:11:41.860 of going to war.
00:11:43.440 And we are exhausted
00:11:44.840 with the New York
00:11:47.340 and L.A.
00:11:47.920 crowd deciding
00:11:49.200 what's good
00:11:50.960 for the rest of America,
00:11:52.260 the flyover states.
00:11:53.380 And so he garnered
00:11:56.040 this mass cult following
00:11:58.500 of so many people
00:12:00.120 who were,
00:12:01.600 if we could term it
00:12:02.480 anything,
00:12:03.500 the forgotten men
00:12:04.920 and women of America
00:12:06.100 who simply just wanted
00:12:07.280 someone who had
00:12:09.140 the gumption
00:12:09.920 to say the truth.
00:12:12.020 And he had that
00:12:13.080 because it was a startup.
00:12:15.220 And then things shifted.
00:12:17.600 And I think,
00:12:18.720 as we learned,
00:12:20.300 after his assassination
00:12:21.260 attempt,
00:12:21.660 there was never more money
00:12:22.920 that was given
00:12:23.520 to the Trump campaign.
00:12:24.480 I think in the next days,
00:12:25.500 in the preceding week,
00:12:26.440 they raised more money
00:12:27.320 than they had ever raised.
00:12:28.240 The truth is,
00:12:29.180 the reality is,
00:12:29.860 is that when you take money,
00:12:32.840 there's a,
00:12:34.320 what are you taking money for,
00:12:35.680 right?
00:12:36.180 There's kind of
00:12:37.020 an implicit agreement.
00:12:38.180 The people who are
00:12:38.740 giving you the money
00:12:39.360 have some interests
00:12:40.260 that they want
00:12:40.840 perhaps you to protect,
00:12:43.400 some interests
00:12:43.940 that they want you
00:12:44.740 to share,
00:12:45.180 some perspectives
00:12:45.840 that they're expecting
00:12:47.220 you to have
00:12:48.260 if they're writing
00:12:48.860 you a big check.
00:12:50.320 I mean,
00:12:50.600 he had,
00:12:51.100 I think,
00:12:51.720 one of the wealthiest
00:12:52.640 people in America,
00:12:54.380 the Adelson
00:12:56.320 or the Adelson family,
00:12:57.660 they effectively
00:12:58.320 own Las Vegas.
00:12:59.780 I think the wife
00:13:01.920 cut him
00:13:02.300 a $100 million check.
00:13:05.200 And it's been understood
00:13:06.120 that that check
00:13:07.180 came with
00:13:08.220 a little bit
00:13:09.320 of nudging
00:13:09.960 that,
00:13:10.560 well,
00:13:10.760 if you win,
00:13:11.380 I kind of want you
00:13:12.400 to agree to
00:13:13.420 us annexing Gaza,
00:13:16.160 Israel annexing
00:13:17.120 the West Bank,
00:13:18.180 pardon.
00:13:19.200 And the press
00:13:19.640 wrote about that
00:13:20.340 and it's a little blip
00:13:20.960 and maybe Trump
00:13:21.740 doesn't agree with that.
00:13:22.600 I'm not saying
00:13:22.920 that he's done that deal
00:13:23.980 or that he holds
00:13:24.820 that perspective,
00:13:25.400 but I am saying
00:13:26.120 that it runs counter
00:13:27.060 to everything
00:13:28.780 that he pledged
00:13:30.720 to people in 2015.
00:13:31.620 I'm going to end wars.
00:13:33.280 I don't want any more wars.
00:13:34.500 I'm going to bring
00:13:34.920 the troops home.
00:13:36.280 I'm tired of them
00:13:36.980 taking your tax dollars
00:13:38.040 to fight endless wars overseas.
00:13:39.880 He seems to be singing
00:13:41.620 a different tune today.
00:13:43.120 We're hearing J.D. Vance.
00:13:44.360 He's talking about
00:13:45.160 war with Iran.
00:13:47.060 Nobody wants
00:13:48.220 more war
00:13:49.140 in the Middle East
00:13:50.020 or anywhere else.
00:13:51.480 Ukraine, Russia,
00:13:52.300 we just want
00:13:53.300 to place
00:13:54.240 a pause
00:13:55.160 on never-ending wars
00:13:57.160 and the never-ending
00:13:58.540 excuses
00:13:59.040 for the wars
00:14:00.020 and the never-ending
00:14:01.240 name-calling
00:14:01.940 that comes
00:14:02.580 when you say,
00:14:03.880 hey,
00:14:04.200 why don't we try peace?
00:14:05.440 Oh, are you an isolationist?
00:14:07.040 Are you a pro-Putin puppet?
00:14:08.400 Are you an anti-Semite?
00:14:10.920 And it's so funny
00:14:11.740 because when you think
00:14:12.340 about the 2015 campaign
00:14:13.580 because no one
00:14:14.760 would allow Trump
00:14:16.700 to sit down
00:14:17.800 and have a meaningful
00:14:18.480 discussion with them
00:14:19.100 in the mainstream media,
00:14:20.160 he then did shows
00:14:21.500 like Alex Jones.
00:14:22.480 You guys remember this?
00:14:22.940 He went on Alex Jones
00:14:24.040 in 2015.
00:14:25.540 Persona non grata,
00:14:26.520 Alex Jones,
00:14:27.040 conspiracy theorist,
00:14:27.820 was hosting
00:14:28.600 a presidential hopeful
00:14:29.920 and people loved that.
00:14:32.560 The crowd loved that.
00:14:33.560 It's like, yeah,
00:14:34.360 at least someone
00:14:35.440 who's willing
00:14:35.780 to have a conversation
00:14:36.520 with you.
00:14:37.660 And he won.
00:14:38.700 Because of that.
00:14:39.860 Because he was doing things
00:14:41.660 that a consultancy firm
00:14:43.260 would never recommend
00:14:44.800 that he does.
00:14:46.000 And now it seems
00:14:46.800 like there's just
00:14:47.580 a ton of consultants
00:14:48.540 and those consultants
00:14:49.400 are probably saying to him,
00:14:51.120 don't you dare
00:14:52.140 go on the Alex Jones show.
00:14:54.400 He's a conspiracy theorist.
00:14:56.180 Haven't you heard
00:14:56.700 about what happened
00:14:57.600 with his lawsuit
00:14:59.600 to being bankrupted,
00:15:00.720 the lies that he spread?
00:15:01.780 Bad for your brand.
00:15:03.880 We don't want you doing that.
00:15:04.980 Oh, don't you dare
00:15:05.900 talk to this person.
00:15:06.940 And that person
00:15:07.520 is not for war with Iran.
00:15:09.260 And that's going to be bad
00:15:10.180 for your brand
00:15:10.980 because we're now
00:15:11.600 accepting money
00:15:12.440 from the pro-Israel lobby
00:15:13.780 and we want to keep you there.
00:15:15.400 And now he's doing interviews
00:15:16.280 again with Megyn Kelly
00:15:18.140 and people who were
00:15:20.120 the face of the
00:15:20.820 Never Trump movement.
00:15:22.600 Ben Shapiro,
00:15:23.620 a long piece,
00:15:24.660 I believe,
00:15:24.960 in 2015
00:15:25.380 about why he would
00:15:26.400 forever be Never Trump
00:15:27.680 and how bad Trump
00:15:28.720 would be for America.
00:15:30.020 Now, I want to be clear,
00:15:30.640 he has since
00:15:31.160 shifted his position
00:15:32.300 and now he's hosting
00:15:33.680 fundraisers for Trump.
00:15:34.760 So Trump is giving time
00:15:36.480 and raising money.
00:15:38.820 And by the way,
00:15:39.260 again, effectively,
00:15:39.900 it's a good thing.
00:15:40.620 I'm not saying that
00:15:41.280 if you were once Never Trump,
00:15:42.520 you should never be allowed
00:15:43.580 into the camp.
00:15:44.200 I don't believe that.
00:15:44.900 I think people should be able
00:15:46.020 to change their minds.
00:15:47.560 But what message
00:15:48.260 is that sending
00:15:49.180 to the people
00:15:49.800 that got him
00:15:50.440 into the White House
00:15:51.080 the first time, right?
00:15:52.400 What message
00:15:53.100 is it sending
00:15:53.680 when you don't go
00:15:55.460 and do those shows
00:15:56.380 that you did
00:15:56.980 when the mainstream media
00:15:58.040 turned you off
00:15:59.100 and wouldn't listen to you?
00:16:00.900 It's sending a message,
00:16:02.420 whether it's a reality or not,
00:16:03.840 it's sending a message
00:16:04.800 that you are now kowtowing,
00:16:07.500 right?
00:16:07.940 That you're no longer
00:16:09.200 in control
00:16:10.160 of what happens
00:16:11.200 with your campaign.
00:16:12.220 That people are telling you
00:16:13.340 who to speak to
00:16:14.000 and who not to speak to.
00:16:15.580 That you care
00:16:16.480 to actually appease
00:16:17.940 the same mainstream media
00:16:19.680 that wouldn't give you
00:16:20.660 the time of day
00:16:21.700 back in 2015.
00:16:23.940 Again,
00:16:24.560 maybe that I'm
00:16:26.040 painting a picture
00:16:27.060 of something
00:16:27.920 that's not true.
00:16:28.920 But if it's not true,
00:16:31.220 then you need
00:16:31.900 to communicate that.
00:16:33.780 Because let me tell you something,
00:16:35.420 if you think
00:16:35.900 you're trading up,
00:16:36.900 you know,
00:16:37.340 by going,
00:16:37.940 oh, well,
00:16:38.200 now I'm being invited
00:16:38.820 into this club,
00:16:39.720 you're not.
00:16:40.840 You're losing
00:16:42.000 that support
00:16:43.500 from the people
00:16:44.300 that believed in you
00:16:46.740 in a way
00:16:47.300 that you didn't even
00:16:48.200 believe in yourself
00:16:49.040 way back when.
00:16:50.100 You need those people.
00:16:51.660 That is your base.
00:16:53.560 You can't suddenly
00:16:54.580 change
00:16:55.640 who your base is
00:16:56.820 and think that
00:16:57.380 that's going to be
00:16:58.380 an effective
00:16:59.420 strategy here.
00:17:01.300 So I'm hopeful
00:17:02.320 that by me
00:17:03.680 adding my voice
00:17:04.660 to this,
00:17:05.720 that this message
00:17:07.320 will be heard
00:17:07.920 by somebody
00:17:08.860 who will go,
00:17:09.640 you know what,
00:17:10.180 yeah,
00:17:10.380 in the last weeks,
00:17:11.660 let's just let
00:17:12.540 Trump be Trump.
00:17:14.540 Let's let Trump
00:17:15.460 talk to whoever
00:17:16.160 he wants to.
00:17:17.300 Let's remove
00:17:18.300 all of the consultants
00:17:19.340 and just allow
00:17:21.760 Trump to go back
00:17:23.200 to his 2015 messaging.
00:17:24.900 No wars,
00:17:27.060 no money spent
00:17:27.720 overseas,
00:17:28.220 and who cares
00:17:29.080 if you get called
00:17:29.840 a racist,
00:17:30.780 pro-Putin,
00:17:31.600 anti-Semitic,
00:17:33.000 isolationist disaster.
00:17:35.460 Those are my thoughts
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00:18:51.640 All right, guys,
00:18:52.820 now let's get into
00:18:53.680 some stories.
00:19:01.120 First up,
00:19:01.980 we have Jojo Siwa.
00:19:03.680 Guys,
00:19:04.040 I have covered
00:19:04.520 Jojo Siwa extensively.
00:19:06.000 I guess I wouldn't say extensively,
00:19:07.140 but a few times on the show
00:19:08.300 because I was sort of watching
00:19:10.000 what looked to me
00:19:11.720 to be like an identity crisis.
00:19:14.380 I thought I was being very kind
00:19:15.860 about Jojo Siwa.
00:19:17.140 I said she was remarkably talented.
00:19:18.800 She was on Dance Moms.
00:19:19.840 Everybody loved her.
00:19:20.860 I watched her on Dance Moms.
00:19:22.560 I thought she had
00:19:22.960 a bubbly personality.
00:19:24.540 And then she kind of
00:19:25.560 went to Hollywood.
00:19:26.700 And as we know,
00:19:27.860 what happens when you
00:19:28.500 get into Hollywood
00:19:29.260 is that you just start
00:19:30.700 experimenting with some things.
00:19:33.060 And Jojo Siwa decided
00:19:34.920 that she was a lesbian.
00:19:36.780 And I am not,
00:19:39.080 well, I did, in fact,
00:19:40.340 say that Jojo Siwa
00:19:41.560 was not a lesbian.
00:19:43.220 And the reason why I said that
00:19:44.780 was because of the way
00:19:47.060 that she kind of turned it
00:19:48.500 into an entire identity.
00:19:50.200 All she does now
00:19:51.460 is she speaks about
00:19:52.200 how much of a lesbian she is,
00:19:54.300 just how happy she is
00:19:55.740 to be a lesbian
00:19:56.620 every second of every day.
00:19:58.520 And here's the thing.
00:19:59.260 I've been around lesbians.
00:20:01.000 And people that are lesbians
00:20:02.700 don't feel the need
00:20:03.600 to work it into
00:20:04.320 every sentence all the time
00:20:06.100 unless there's somebody
00:20:07.280 that's really just going
00:20:08.100 through an identity crisis
00:20:08.860 because what you are
00:20:09.800 is not something
00:20:10.320 that you need to validate
00:20:11.060 every two minutes.
00:20:12.440 Anyways, Jojo Siwa
00:20:13.660 saw that messaging
00:20:14.780 years ago,
00:20:16.060 and she's now come out
00:20:17.640 again against me
00:20:19.040 to remind people
00:20:20.240 that she will never have me
00:20:22.420 on her podcast
00:20:23.260 because of my fateful words.
00:20:25.460 Take a listen to what
00:20:26.120 she had to say
00:20:26.720 in its entirety.
00:20:27.820 Five people that I will
00:20:29.120 not be having on Jojo Siwa now.
00:20:30.940 Candace Owens.
00:20:31.620 I think it's pretty
00:20:32.120 self-explanatory.
00:20:32.940 Her and I do not
00:20:33.980 fuck with each other.
00:20:35.040 Homegirl thought that
00:20:36.440 I was faking being a lesbian.
00:20:38.740 What the fuck
00:20:39.800 are you talking about?
00:20:41.360 How do you know
00:20:42.620 my sexual orientation?
00:20:43.980 The thing with Candace Owens
00:20:45.540 is she wasn't going after me.
00:20:46.960 She was going after
00:20:47.620 a whole community of people,
00:20:49.140 and that's not okay.
00:20:50.860 So she cut this
00:20:51.900 from her podcast,
00:20:52.800 and she tried it on Instagram
00:20:54.020 because I guess Jojo Siwa
00:20:55.320 believes everything
00:20:56.020 she reads in the press
00:20:56.900 and assumes that
00:20:57.620 everybody hates me,
00:20:58.580 and if she just wraps
00:20:59.320 herself up into a bubble
00:21:00.520 of a community,
00:21:01.360 like, oh,
00:21:01.800 she didn't just come for me.
00:21:02.840 She came for the whole community.
00:21:04.360 Then everyone would
00:21:04.800 automatically be on her side,
00:21:05.940 and unfortunately for Jojo Siwa,
00:21:07.700 that is not what happened.
00:21:09.460 In fact,
00:21:10.060 the comments from this post
00:21:11.920 very much passed
00:21:13.280 the vibe check.
00:21:13.820 Here are just a few of them.
00:21:15.200 One person wrote,
00:21:15.800 The girl used to be someone
00:21:17.260 I'd let my daughter listen to.
00:21:18.580 Then she changed
00:21:19.320 for society needs.
00:21:20.640 Sad.
00:21:21.800 Another person wrote,
00:21:22.640 You should also not let
00:21:23.780 the person who made
00:21:24.660 that hat on your podcast.
00:21:26.300 I bet their name
00:21:26.820 is Candace, too.
00:21:27.900 A third person wrote,
00:21:28.640 Candace would never want to.
00:21:29.840 LOL.
00:21:30.240 You are far below
00:21:31.140 her IQ to debate.
00:21:32.780 Dylan writes,
00:21:33.360 Who asked?
00:21:34.380 This person writes,
00:21:35.240 Made me like Candace Owens
00:21:36.380 even more.
00:21:37.360 Another person writes,
00:21:38.300 My name is also Candace.
00:21:39.660 Am I also banned?
00:21:40.640 LOL.
00:21:41.420 Jennifer writes,
00:21:41.960 I'm a fan,
00:21:42.840 but for sake of Jojo
00:21:44.280 as a human
00:21:44.840 and not a public figure,
00:21:45.720 I wish she would focus
00:21:46.500 on finding her own identity
00:21:47.800 outside of her sexuality
00:21:49.140 or her job.
00:21:50.320 She's screaming
00:21:50.880 from the rooftops
00:21:51.540 that she's trying
00:21:52.180 to find herself
00:21:52.920 and her fans aren't helping
00:21:54.240 and her critics are worse.
00:21:56.000 This person asks,
00:21:57.100 Why does she sound
00:21:57.700 like a man?
00:21:58.720 This person,
00:21:59.440 from her community,
00:22:00.740 says,
00:22:01.220 Your own community cringes.
00:22:03.220 Another user,
00:22:04.100 Your parents failed you.
00:22:05.320 Another person,
00:22:06.040 most desperate human being
00:22:07.100 in the world.
00:22:08.980 Lastly,
00:22:09.440 this user writes,
00:22:10.420 What do I have to do
00:22:11.220 to get on this list?
00:22:12.380 Yeah,
00:22:12.580 he wants to be definitely
00:22:14.540 not allowed on your podcast either.
00:22:16.320 Here's the point,
00:22:17.040 because I do feel bad.
00:22:18.040 These comments were so harsh.
00:22:19.180 I would honestly recommend
00:22:20.240 that whoever chose to post it
00:22:21.660 just takes it down
00:22:22.420 because it's not nice
00:22:23.380 for someone that is
00:22:24.380 as young as Jojo
00:22:25.280 and also someone
00:22:26.520 who is so clearly going
00:22:27.620 through some sort
00:22:28.120 of an identity crisis
00:22:28.900 to have to read
00:22:30.320 these comments about herself.
00:22:31.880 But if she's someone
00:22:33.060 who can take that
00:22:33.980 and can actually take a critique
00:22:35.380 and try to spin it
00:22:36.600 into something positive,
00:22:37.840 maybe she could listen
00:22:39.080 to what exactly it was
00:22:40.280 that I was saying,
00:22:41.040 which is that Jojo
00:22:41.980 and what the comments
00:22:42.740 are agreeing with,
00:22:43.920 you are so very clearly
00:22:45.340 going for something.
00:22:46.200 To be a lesbian
00:22:47.160 is not a performance.
00:22:48.980 You are performing
00:22:49.800 what you think
00:22:50.540 a lesbian is supposed to be.
00:22:51.940 So you're dressing
00:22:52.820 as you think a lesbian
00:22:53.660 is supposed to dress.
00:22:54.660 You're speaking
00:22:55.400 as you believe
00:22:56.340 a lesbian is supposed to speak
00:22:57.560 to really sell the fact
00:22:58.500 that they're a lesbian.
00:22:59.320 Like, oh,
00:22:59.760 I smoke a pack a day
00:23:01.020 and I kind of do
00:23:02.240 these butch mannerisms.
00:23:03.540 I mean,
00:23:03.820 she got on stage,
00:23:04.820 I'm not kidding you guys,
00:23:05.560 she got on stage
00:23:06.340 and she told the crowd
00:23:07.840 to lick her nuts.
00:23:10.300 Is that a requirement
00:23:11.160 to be a lesbian?
00:23:11.740 Do you have to go out
00:23:12.900 and say,
00:23:13.480 lick my nuts?
00:23:14.200 This proves that I'm duty.
00:23:16.260 I am butchy,
00:23:18.240 lesbian-y.
00:23:19.160 Lick my nuts.
00:23:19.800 It's a weird,
00:23:20.900 it's objectively weird
00:23:22.300 sentence to utter
00:23:23.420 if it is not a cry
00:23:25.320 for attention.
00:23:26.800 Lesbians that I know,
00:23:27.760 okay,
00:23:28.080 realtor in D.C.,
00:23:29.260 I didn't even know
00:23:29.840 she was a lesbian.
00:23:30.260 She mentioned it casually.
00:23:31.420 You want to know what she was?
00:23:32.140 She was just a phenomenal realtor.
00:23:33.640 Very good at her job.
00:23:34.960 Extremely professional.
00:23:35.760 Never considered
00:23:36.880 that she might be
00:23:37.380 a part of a community
00:23:38.100 that required her
00:23:39.540 to act a part of a lesbian.
00:23:41.580 I think part of this,
00:23:43.180 by the way,
00:23:43.980 proves my point
00:23:44.780 about why I think
00:23:46.440 it is demonic
00:23:48.360 for children
00:23:49.400 to get involved
00:23:50.380 in acting
00:23:51.060 and in theater
00:23:51.700 when they're super young.
00:23:52.580 Like I say this
00:23:53.020 about the child actress curse.
00:23:54.760 I just think
00:23:55.940 that it pollutes
00:23:56.660 their minds.
00:23:57.280 Like they're not able
00:23:58.040 to grow up in a way
00:23:59.100 like their brains
00:23:59.940 don't function productively.
00:24:02.280 Like they,
00:24:03.140 everything kind of
00:24:04.600 becomes about attention.
00:24:05.900 Like you're training
00:24:06.680 your brain
00:24:07.200 in the wrong way.
00:24:08.180 So you think
00:24:09.540 that everything
00:24:10.420 in your life
00:24:11.200 needs to be
00:24:12.220 this sort of
00:24:13.540 over-the-top performance
00:24:15.920 when in reality
00:24:16.920 it's kind of okay
00:24:18.160 to just be yourself.
00:24:20.100 And being a lesbian
00:24:21.260 is not an identity.
00:24:23.720 Okay?
00:24:23.960 So if you're
00:24:24.420 hooking up with girls
00:24:25.700 you don't need to
00:24:26.440 suddenly become
00:24:27.160 this thing
00:24:27.560 that you've become.
00:24:28.280 Now,
00:24:28.920 Georgia,
00:24:29.080 I want to say this.
00:24:29.640 I'm very sad
00:24:30.280 that you're never
00:24:30.660 going to have me
00:24:31.000 on your podcast
00:24:31.400 because in reality
00:24:32.400 I think that we'd have
00:24:33.460 an amazing conversation.
00:24:34.960 I say the exact opposite.
00:24:36.380 You are always
00:24:37.460 welcome on my podcast
00:24:38.500 because I'm not
00:24:39.160 as close-minded as you.
00:24:40.200 I know you come
00:24:40.920 from the community
00:24:41.620 of tolerance
00:24:42.600 which is what
00:24:43.160 you're selling yourself as
00:24:44.080 but you're essentially
00:24:45.300 signaling to everybody
00:24:46.080 that you're
00:24:46.520 completely intolerant
00:24:47.700 of anyone
00:24:48.200 who has
00:24:49.000 disagreements with you.
00:24:49.840 That's why you included
00:24:50.540 Candace Cameron Burr
00:24:51.560 on your list
00:24:52.500 simply because
00:24:53.280 she's a Christian
00:24:53.920 and she doesn't believe
00:24:55.280 in gay marriage.
00:24:56.200 Okay, fine.
00:24:57.380 So maybe exercise
00:24:58.600 some of that
00:24:59.660 rainbow sprinkle tolerance
00:25:01.140 that you claim
00:25:02.760 is what your community
00:25:04.200 is all about.
00:25:05.540 Your community
00:25:06.020 is rejecting you
00:25:06.680 for a reason.
00:25:07.260 Maybe it's time
00:25:07.640 to wake up.
00:25:08.320 Maybe it's time
00:25:08.780 to have a conversation
00:25:09.520 with Candace.
00:25:10.560 The invitation
00:25:11.140 remains open.
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00:26:13.000 All right, guys,
00:26:13.800 let's move on
00:26:14.600 to a non-scandal
00:26:16.120 that's become
00:26:16.560 a very big scandal.
00:26:17.740 It's the Olympics.
00:26:18.840 Everything about this Olympics
00:26:19.500 has been very scandalous,
00:26:20.400 by the way.
00:26:20.840 It's because it's
00:26:21.760 happening in France
00:26:22.520 and it's just,
00:26:23.800 I don't know,
00:26:23.980 it's been exceedingly
00:26:24.740 fake and gay
00:26:26.580 and every opening ceremony
00:26:27.860 kind of dictated
00:26:28.520 that things were not
00:26:29.660 going to go well
00:26:30.340 and it just,
00:26:31.180 things seem to be going
00:26:31.840 from bad to worse.
00:26:32.820 Now, I want to be very clear.
00:26:34.580 In speaking about this topic,
00:26:35.740 especially in speaking
00:26:36.420 about women's gymnastics,
00:26:38.020 here is a fun fact
00:26:38.800 about me.
00:26:39.660 My family is
00:26:40.520 extremely private.
00:26:41.680 I have two sisters
00:26:42.320 and I speak to my sisters
00:26:43.360 all the time
00:26:43.920 and my sisters
00:26:44.940 have never requested
00:26:45.960 that I speak about something
00:26:47.160 or not speak about something
00:26:48.740 except for this one topic,
00:26:51.320 female gymnastics.
00:26:52.440 Not a joke.
00:26:52.840 My little sister
00:26:53.460 is a,
00:26:55.080 the only way to describe it
00:26:56.080 is she's a Simone Biles stan.
00:26:58.760 She absolutely has loved gymnastics
00:27:00.280 from the time
00:27:00.620 that we were little tots
00:27:01.260 and she said to me,
00:27:02.000 Candice,
00:27:02.240 I don't care about
00:27:02.600 what you talk about.
00:27:03.380 Literally,
00:27:03.720 say whatever you want.
00:27:04.960 Just please don't say
00:27:06.440 anything bad
00:27:07.160 about Simone Biles.
00:27:07.880 So I need to tread
00:27:08.580 very carefully here.
00:27:10.220 Okay?
00:27:10.640 I need to be very careful
00:27:11.340 discussing this subject.
00:27:12.160 But there is a lot
00:27:13.660 of drama happening
00:27:14.840 with the female gymnastics team,
00:27:18.020 the Olympic gymnastics.
00:27:19.340 And I'll just kind of like
00:27:20.480 run you up
00:27:21.160 on what's happening.
00:27:21.880 It's just been a scoring disaster,
00:27:23.520 so to speak.
00:27:24.120 So there was at first
00:27:26.680 a young woman
00:27:27.780 who is Romanian
00:27:29.440 and honestly,
00:27:31.180 she just got completely gypped.
00:27:32.940 I don't know if we're supposed
00:27:33.460 to say that term.
00:27:34.040 Are you allowed to say gypsy?
00:27:35.420 Gypped is the term we use.
00:27:36.960 But she did.
00:27:37.720 She should have not been
00:27:39.280 docked on a point.
00:27:40.460 They said that she stepped
00:27:41.340 off of the mat.
00:27:42.400 She absolutely,
00:27:43.280 you can watch this video
00:27:44.420 a thousand times over.
00:27:45.880 It's been slowed down
00:27:46.940 and she just,
00:27:49.080 in no way,
00:27:49.720 did she step off of the mat.
00:27:50.900 So Romania was unbelievably upset
00:27:52.760 because Sabrina Manica Voinia,
00:27:55.120 I hope I'm saying
00:27:55.620 her last name correctly,
00:27:57.620 she didn't win.
00:27:58.720 And it was,
00:27:59.500 I'm telling you,
00:27:59.920 the judges just outright
00:28:00.720 stole it from her.
00:28:01.500 Then it got even worse, okay?
00:28:03.200 So what then happened
00:28:04.840 was that Anna Barbosu,
00:28:07.600 she is also Romanian,
00:28:09.120 she scored third
00:28:10.260 and she won the bronze medal.
00:28:12.240 She had one person
00:28:13.240 left to go after her
00:28:14.400 and it was an American
00:28:16.260 and that American's name
00:28:17.560 is Jordan Childs.
00:28:19.500 Jordan Childs went
00:28:20.480 and the judges said
00:28:22.340 you get a 13.666
00:28:25.500 which put her into fifth place.
00:28:28.840 So her judge,
00:28:29.680 I mean her trainer
00:28:31.260 comes around,
00:28:31.900 her coach,
00:28:32.360 her name is Cecil Landy
00:28:33.440 and she's like,
00:28:34.360 well what do we have to lose?
00:28:35.200 Like she's in fifth place,
00:28:36.380 like I'm just going to kind of
00:28:38.660 throw a flag on the play here
00:28:40.180 to give you guys a football term
00:28:41.600 and basically ask for them,
00:28:43.820 the judges,
00:28:44.380 to just review
00:28:45.280 and see if they maybe
00:28:46.200 got something wrong here
00:28:47.600 on the difficulty score.
00:28:49.080 So she wanted them to challenge
00:28:50.540 the difficulty score.
00:28:52.100 Now in case you're not up to date
00:28:53.180 on how all of this works,
00:28:54.980 how they score things,
00:28:55.800 I'm just actually going to give you
00:28:56.520 a little background here.
00:28:57.620 In gymnastics,
00:28:58.360 they score an athlete
00:28:59.220 based on two different components,
00:29:00.680 the execution score
00:29:01.700 and the difficulty score.
00:29:03.060 The execution score
00:29:04.100 starts at 10 points
00:29:05.600 and then the judges deduct
00:29:07.440 based on various things.
00:29:09.020 So like I said,
00:29:09.780 she stepped off the mat,
00:29:10.580 oh you get a deduction of a point here,
00:29:11.940 a deduction of a point there.
00:29:13.600 Difficulty score starts at zero
00:29:15.280 and then you earn points
00:29:16.660 for composition requirements,
00:29:18.220 difficulty elements,
00:29:19.320 blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:29:19.980 Okay.
00:29:20.640 So her coach,
00:29:22.320 going back to Jordan Childs,
00:29:23.300 the American coach,
00:29:24.140 was like,
00:29:24.560 let's just see
00:29:25.360 if we can maybe
00:29:26.260 kind of get a point here.
00:29:28.480 The coach literally said
00:29:29.320 this quotation thereafter.
00:29:30.480 She said,
00:29:30.760 at this point,
00:29:31.320 we had nothing to lose.
00:29:32.220 So I was just like,
00:29:33.400 we're going to try.
00:29:35.140 I honestly didn't think
00:29:36.100 that it was going to happen,
00:29:37.040 but then I heard her scream.
00:29:38.020 I turned around
00:29:38.560 and I was like,
00:29:39.160 what?
00:29:39.900 Yeah.
00:29:40.260 So the judges,
00:29:41.460 she throws down this like,
00:29:43.740 I don't know,
00:29:44.260 maybe we'll get lucky here.
00:29:45.640 And yeah,
00:29:46.180 the judges returned.
00:29:47.020 They were like,
00:29:47.400 yeah,
00:29:47.580 no,
00:29:47.840 we're actually going to take it
00:29:49.140 from another Romanian girl.
00:29:50.820 F the Romanians.
00:29:51.920 That's kind of what the judges were just like.
00:29:52.880 We just don't like Romanians.
00:29:54.220 So they take this girl
00:29:56.280 who's like celebrating,
00:29:57.740 like,
00:29:58.240 oh my gosh,
00:29:58.920 I'm so happy I'm in third place.
00:29:59.940 And then she finds out that,
00:30:01.060 no,
00:30:01.360 actually they're giving it to this,
00:30:02.380 this American,
00:30:03.240 Jordan Childs is getting it.
00:30:04.540 So boo you,
00:30:05.780 step aside.
00:30:06.940 You and Sabrina can go cry in the corner,
00:30:08.920 Anna and Sabrina.
00:30:09.680 You guys go cry in the corner.
00:30:10.620 We hate Romania for no reason.
00:30:12.200 So obviously people were outraged
00:30:14.180 because like I said,
00:30:15.680 the backstory here
00:30:16.580 is the first Romanian
00:30:17.640 gets completely gypped.
00:30:18.820 And now you have the second Romanian
00:30:20.220 who just like gets completely gypped
00:30:21.920 by some like random act of like,
00:30:24.080 please review her difficulty scoring.
00:30:26.540 And people then took her social media
00:30:28.240 and they were really mean
00:30:29.860 to a Jordan Childs like this.
00:30:33.700 And I'm going to tell you she's black
00:30:35.000 and it's only relevant
00:30:35.720 because of what happens next.
00:30:36.540 They were really mean to her.
00:30:37.260 Apparently some people said
00:30:38.400 some hateful comments about her race.
00:30:40.180 Who knows?
00:30:40.680 I mean,
00:30:40.900 it's the internet.
00:30:41.760 So let me just say this right now.
00:30:43.200 If you're offended
00:30:44.120 and if you're an easily offended person
00:30:46.380 and you have the internet,
00:30:47.980 you should not be on the internet
00:30:49.320 because the first thing they do
00:30:50.800 is they just start screaming racial epithets.
00:30:52.980 Doesn't matter if you're a woman,
00:30:54.400 you're going to get
00:30:54.900 all sorts of misogynistic language.
00:30:56.620 If you're a gay person,
00:30:58.420 they're going to say
00:30:59.100 a whole bunch of homophobic stuff.
00:31:00.740 It's just what the internet does.
00:31:01.620 You know,
00:31:01.760 it's just like kids on Game Boy or something,
00:31:04.180 just saying terrible things to you all the time.
00:31:06.040 So she was upset about that
00:31:07.560 and then people were like,
00:31:09.000 no, no, no, no.
00:31:09.460 Now we need to review this
00:31:10.540 because that is crazy.
00:31:12.020 We're not doing this twice to Romania.
00:31:13.800 Romania,
00:31:14.680 you know,
00:31:14.940 small country,
00:31:15.740 but they're ready to go to war now.
00:31:17.040 And you know what?
00:31:17.600 I'm feeling sympathetic to Romania too.
00:31:19.460 So what happened
00:31:20.320 was
00:31:21.240 they then realized
00:31:23.200 the
00:31:24.100 scoring league
00:31:26.640 who then reviewed the review
00:31:28.180 realized that actually
00:31:29.520 the rules are
00:31:30.500 that in order to do
00:31:31.680 that little flag on the play,
00:31:33.140 you have to say,
00:31:35.220 I want to review
00:31:35.920 within one minute.
00:31:37.580 And they actually
00:31:38.640 did not meet the guidelines.
00:31:40.580 Apparently,
00:31:41.240 when the coach
00:31:42.540 asked for the review,
00:31:43.680 it was not within one minute.
00:31:44.720 It was with,
00:31:45.460 it was one minute
00:31:46.180 and four seconds later.
00:31:48.200 So by four seconds later,
00:31:50.640 they then reversed the decision.
00:31:52.960 Okay.
00:31:53.600 So it's just a lot of emotions.
00:31:55.100 I mean,
00:31:55.340 it is like,
00:31:55.920 could you imagine
00:31:56.220 you got women,
00:31:57.160 you got,
00:31:57.680 you got women crying,
00:31:59.080 people don't know
00:31:59.580 what's happening,
00:32:00.180 but in reality,
00:32:01.080 like,
00:32:01.540 you know,
00:32:01.760 the clock is the clock.
00:32:02.700 You can't,
00:32:03.080 that's like,
00:32:03.840 come on.
00:32:04.380 And by the way,
00:32:05.020 they should have never
00:32:05.620 given her the bronze medal
00:32:06.700 in general.
00:32:07.320 But you can imagine
00:32:08.060 like what Jordan Childs
00:32:09.460 is going through.
00:32:10.400 You can imagine
00:32:11.160 what the Romanian team
00:32:13.640 is going through,
00:32:14.440 but they were just like,
00:32:15.220 no,
00:32:15.600 now you got to give her back
00:32:16.580 her bronze medal
00:32:17.200 to the Romanian girl
00:32:18.060 who you just took it from
00:32:19.200 because four seconds
00:32:21.000 is four seconds.
00:32:22.020 The clocks don't lie.
00:32:23.300 Okay.
00:32:24.260 So then,
00:32:25.400 for no reason,
00:32:26.540 sisters be acting crazy,
00:32:27.840 right?
00:32:27.980 We all know
00:32:28.520 sisters be acting crazy.
00:32:29.760 And so Jordan Childs,
00:32:30.640 as I mentioned,
00:32:31.340 she is black.
00:32:32.320 And her sister,
00:32:34.000 I don't know if this is
00:32:34.440 an old sister or younger sister,
00:32:36.220 decided to go on Instagram
00:32:38.140 and to lament this decision.
00:32:39.980 Her sister's name is Jasmine.
00:32:41.820 Jasmine wrote this
00:32:43.020 on her Instagram stories.
00:32:45.160 She wrote,
00:32:45.920 racism is real.
00:32:47.360 It exists.
00:32:48.360 It is alive and well.
00:32:49.960 They have officially,
00:32:51.000 five days later,
00:32:52.160 stripped her
00:32:52.680 of one of her medals,
00:32:53.860 not because she didn't win,
00:32:55.320 not because she was drugged,
00:32:56.560 not because she stepped
00:32:57.860 out of bounds,
00:32:58.780 not because she wasn't
00:32:59.800 good enough,
00:33:00.200 but because the judges
00:33:01.120 failed to give her difficulty
00:33:02.820 and forced an inquiry
00:33:04.580 to be made.
00:33:05.980 Four seconds.
00:33:07.340 Her bronze was stripped
00:33:08.540 over four seconds of time
00:33:10.060 that would have never
00:33:11.380 needed to happen
00:33:12.080 if the judges did their job.
00:33:13.740 I love you,
00:33:14.240 baby sis,
00:33:14.740 and I got yo back
00:33:16.180 no matter what.
00:33:18.620 Yeah.
00:33:19.640 I hate that she did that.
00:33:20.760 I hate it so much
00:33:21.220 because here's the thing.
00:33:22.560 Like I said,
00:33:23.500 the Romanian girl
00:33:24.360 very clearly,
00:33:25.220 by the way,
00:33:25.800 when she appealed
00:33:27.000 the decision
00:33:27.460 for what she didn't do,
00:33:29.340 she actually was
00:33:30.140 totally within bounds.
00:33:31.600 She didn't cry racism,
00:33:33.180 right?
00:33:33.280 She didn't get to,
00:33:33.820 I guess,
00:33:34.020 because she's Romanian
00:33:34.720 and her skin is light.
00:33:35.840 She wasn't like,
00:33:36.600 oh my God,
00:33:37.100 this is like racism
00:33:37.900 against white people.
00:33:38.660 She just was like,
00:33:39.300 the judges suck
00:33:40.100 because it sucks
00:33:40.820 they did this
00:33:41.460 and now Romania
00:33:42.580 doesn't get to take home
00:33:43.420 the bronze.
00:33:44.620 Actually,
00:33:45.080 she should have won
00:33:45.860 the bronze
00:33:46.340 and she completely
00:33:47.180 got that taken away
00:33:48.000 from her.
00:33:49.040 And yet you have
00:33:49.580 this woman's sister,
00:33:50.800 again,
00:33:50.980 this isn't Jordan Childs,
00:33:51.920 who's trying to spin this
00:33:53.240 as if it's something
00:33:53.760 that's racist.
00:33:54.660 And why is it not racist?
00:33:56.160 Well,
00:33:56.760 parking aside,
00:33:57.360 the fact that this
00:33:57.980 just happened
00:33:58.480 to the Romanian girl,
00:34:00.460 Simone Biles
00:34:01.980 took home second.
00:34:04.580 Simone Biles
00:34:05.400 took home the silver.
00:34:06.560 So if it was like
00:34:07.280 about just
00:34:07.880 not letting a black girl
00:34:09.800 take home the bronze,
00:34:11.420 they probably wouldn't
00:34:12.800 have let Simone Biles
00:34:14.220 take home the silver.
00:34:16.140 Also,
00:34:16.440 I'm pretty sure
00:34:16.780 Simone Biles
00:34:17.180 has like more gold medals
00:34:18.740 than like anyone.
00:34:19.880 I don't know.
00:34:20.520 She's,
00:34:20.880 she's got to be
00:34:22.180 like LeBron Kobe
00:34:23.880 status right now
00:34:24.720 when it comes to gymnastics.
00:34:25.520 So I really don't think
00:34:26.420 this is a race thing.
00:34:27.060 And it's just annoying
00:34:27.880 that,
00:34:28.820 you know,
00:34:29.580 it's always tinged
00:34:30.640 with a race conversation
00:34:31.580 when it's not.
00:34:32.640 This did not happen
00:34:33.920 because of racism.
00:34:34.800 This happened
00:34:35.680 because women were scoring
00:34:36.860 and women can't do math.
00:34:38.240 Okay,
00:34:38.480 we can't.
00:34:39.120 This is a girl math situation.
00:34:40.720 The Olympics are going crazy
00:34:41.800 because the women
00:34:43.040 were put in charge
00:34:43.900 of deductions
00:34:44.940 and additions
00:34:45.960 and they're trying to score
00:34:47.520 and things are going
00:34:48.140 really bad.
00:34:48.640 So if we want to fix this issue,
00:34:50.380 it's not about making sure
00:34:51.460 the judges are the right colors
00:34:52.680 or the gymnasts
00:34:53.560 are the right colors.
00:34:54.500 We have to make sure
00:34:55.680 that the girls
00:34:56.560 are not mathing.
00:34:57.820 And that's all I'm going to say
00:34:58.780 on that topic.
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00:36:03.380 All right, guys.
00:36:04.260 Now I'm going to read
00:36:04.860 some of your comments
00:36:05.640 from episodes past.
00:36:07.160 So these were just
00:36:14.420 some comments
00:36:15.240 from the Dave Smith interview.
00:36:16.480 I was really happy
00:36:17.200 to premiere that.
00:36:18.700 He is just so wonderful.
00:36:19.840 So many of you guys
00:36:20.400 wanted us to have
00:36:20.980 a weekly podcast.
00:36:21.900 If I could get him
00:36:23.260 to move to Nashville,
00:36:24.260 I would have a daily show
00:36:26.000 with Dave Smith.
00:36:27.100 I learned so much from him.
00:36:28.600 DK Creo writes,
00:36:29.620 Candace times Dave Smith
00:36:30.700 needs to be at least
00:36:31.920 somewhat a regular thing.
00:36:33.260 Can't get enough.
00:36:34.200 I totally agree with you.
00:36:35.540 Sarah writes,
00:36:36.560 as an Iraqi
00:36:37.260 who grew up witnessing
00:36:38.360 all of the U.S. wars on Iraq,
00:36:40.340 it is both heartbreaking
00:36:41.100 and validating to hear
00:36:42.100 that people now recognize
00:36:43.320 that my country was destroyed
00:36:44.540 for no reason.
00:36:45.960 It wasn't just the people
00:36:46.740 murdered,
00:36:47.560 but generations
00:36:48.140 whose lives are forever changed
00:36:49.600 by this senseless war.
00:36:50.840 You know,
00:36:50.960 I don't think it was
00:36:51.420 for no reason.
00:36:51.960 I think it was because
00:36:52.600 it was good old-fashioned
00:36:53.560 imperialism
00:36:54.280 with also a tinge
00:36:55.580 of destroying history.
00:36:57.000 I do believe that.
00:36:57.600 I believe that we are
00:36:59.880 fighting people
00:37:00.940 who are fundamentally communist
00:37:02.380 and who want to
00:37:03.760 wipe out history
00:37:04.720 so they can just tell people
00:37:05.680 what history was
00:37:06.540 and kind of create
00:37:08.080 this 1984
00:37:09.200 Orwellian perspective.
00:37:11.380 Next person writes,
00:37:12.500 The fact that statements
00:37:13.360 like genocide is always wrong
00:37:15.200 and all lives matter
00:37:16.660 are in any way controversial
00:37:18.000 shows just how sick
00:37:19.720 our society has become.
00:37:21.080 It is time to heal
00:37:21.820 and discussions like this
00:37:22.820 are a great start.
00:37:23.860 I totally agree
00:37:24.500 and that's why we're living
00:37:25.600 in crazy lands
00:37:26.340 and I say to you guys
00:37:27.160 that we're now at a time
00:37:28.640 where people will say
00:37:29.660 anything to fit in
00:37:30.580 and they will say anything
00:37:31.900 not to be maimed
00:37:32.720 and caricatured
00:37:33.380 by the media
00:37:33.920 and pretending
00:37:34.960 that they're comfortable
00:37:35.840 watching what's happening
00:37:37.240 in Gaza right now
00:37:38.120 sickens me.
00:37:38.780 It absolutely sickens me.
00:37:40.080 I mean, we'll get into
00:37:41.420 that topic probably tomorrow
00:37:42.920 or the next day
00:37:43.560 but really what it comes down to
00:37:46.060 is we are living
00:37:47.280 through a time
00:37:48.560 of tremendous cowardice
00:37:50.740 and unfortunately
00:37:53.220 too many of those cowards
00:37:55.240 are the people
00:37:55.980 who should be leading
00:37:56.960 our society
00:37:57.520 like men.
00:37:58.540 We need strong men
00:37:59.720 who are willing
00:38:00.200 to stand up
00:38:00.920 to being called mean names
00:38:03.000 because the truth
00:38:04.700 is more important.
00:38:06.520 So that's all
00:38:07.400 I'm going to say
00:38:08.040 in conclusion.
00:38:09.020 Tomorrow you guys
00:38:09.680 we will have
00:38:10.100 a very exciting
00:38:11.160 interview for you
00:38:12.540 and the next day
00:38:13.680 because I'm actually
00:38:15.060 in Romania
00:38:15.820 and I'm not covering
00:38:17.860 the Olympics
00:38:19.480 or the gymnast.
00:38:20.740 I'm not going to be
00:38:21.140 sitting down with the gymnast.
00:38:21.800 Maybe I should
00:38:22.320 but it will be somebody else
00:38:23.700 and it's probably
00:38:24.660 not that big of a surprise.
00:38:25.740 I'm guessing
00:38:26.300 you can imagine who.
00:38:27.580 We'll see you guys then.
00:38:28.280 We'll see you guys then.