Candace Owens - November 12, 2025


Megyn Kelly Goes SCORCHED EARTH On Those Lying About Charlie Kirk. | Candace Ep 263


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

186.49217

Word Count

10,455

Sentence Count

740

Misogynist Sentences

23

Hate Speech Sentences

38


Summary

Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro are best friends with Candace's husband, Charlie Kirk. She accused him of being involved in the murder of his wife, Erica Kirk, in order to get revenge on her husband for what she thought was a simple mistake. Now, we know it was a post-meditated, premeditated lie.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, happy Wednesday.
00:00:02.840 I don't know what these people thought.
00:00:05.980 I really, I don't know what they thought.
00:00:07.080 I think they thought Charlie Kirk would get assassinated.
00:00:10.040 They would very quickly bury him in a yarmulke
00:00:11.960 and then convince the world that he was actually besties
00:00:14.960 with Ben Shapiro and Josh Hammer.
00:00:16.960 He didn't even know Candace Owens.
00:00:18.880 His last words before he died were,
00:00:21.580 honor the Sabbath and buy Josh Hammer's book.
00:00:25.580 Yeah.
00:00:26.560 And also he had just written this Romeo and Juliet letter
00:00:30.020 to Bibi Netanyahu.
00:00:31.700 I feel like that was kind of the plan.
00:00:34.020 But look, the best laid plans, they can fall apart.
00:00:36.180 And I can tell you guys, this one is falling apart.
00:00:40.200 It is like an avalanche of truth
00:00:42.740 that is just coming at the Zionist lobby
00:00:45.400 because they were just sloppy in these lies,
00:00:49.420 these post-mortem lies.
00:00:51.220 Anyways, Megyn Kelly, okay, from the top ropes.
00:00:55.880 She just swooped in and did something unexpected
00:01:00.100 by slamming these people.
00:01:03.620 Really, she didn't even try to slam them.
00:01:04.820 She just told the truth.
00:01:06.480 She produced a video evidence
00:01:07.780 of what Charlie said to Tucker backstage
00:01:10.880 at the Student Action Summit in July.
00:01:14.200 We're going to get to that.
00:01:15.360 Also, do you guys remember how everybody was freaking out
00:01:19.400 when I told the truth about how long it normally takes
00:01:23.080 for Turning Point USA events to come together on campus?
00:01:28.140 Well, I always told you, when they freak out, it's a clue.
00:01:31.340 And now I know why they are kind of freaking out.
00:01:34.040 And I'm going to tell you.
00:01:35.000 So welcome back to Candace.
00:01:36.060 Okay, I'm excited for today, for the rest of the week,
00:01:53.420 because we have got some very interesting updates for you
00:01:56.020 in the Charlie Kirk assassination,
00:01:58.000 the assassination that seems to have broken the brains of Zionists.
00:02:01.800 They are not acting right.
00:02:03.880 Can we all agree? Zionists are not acting right.
00:02:06.100 They are panicking, panicking so much
00:02:08.360 that they randomly sent Ben Shapiro out into the daylight.
00:02:12.000 And that, my friends, like I said, is a move, okay?
00:02:15.320 Cersei would never send Joffrey Lannister into battle, right?
00:02:19.720 And they just went ahead and did that.
00:02:21.840 And he lied to Megyn Kelly's face.
00:02:26.140 It is never a good idea to lie full stop.
00:02:30.060 Definitely not a good idea to lie to a woman's face.
00:02:32.620 And definitely, definitely not a good idea to lie to her face
00:02:36.640 and try to humiliate her on her own tour.
00:02:39.580 I personally would have strongly advised against it, okay?
00:02:42.740 If somebody said, is this a good idea?
00:02:44.460 I would have said, eh, you know what?
00:02:45.600 Let's maybe not do that.
00:02:46.800 But it happened.
00:02:48.160 And it's important to stress here
00:02:49.920 that this was not just a simple mistake that Ben made, right?
00:02:53.260 That's always a possibility that Ben really thought,
00:02:55.420 maybe he's backstage and sees something on Twitter.
00:02:57.960 And somebody said, Candace just said
00:02:59.960 that Erica Kirk murdered Charlie.
00:03:02.620 And then he gets on stage and he repeats it.
00:03:05.060 Maybe it's just an accident.
00:03:06.940 Highly unlikely.
00:03:08.100 But of course, you have to run that plausibility.
00:03:11.000 But we can now confirm that that certainly was not the case.
00:03:13.560 This was not a simple mistake
00:03:14.700 because in the days following it,
00:03:17.040 he didn't recant.
00:03:18.180 He did not modify.
00:03:19.040 He did not correct.
00:03:19.860 He has a platform.
00:03:20.780 He could have just come out and said,
00:03:22.020 oh, you know, I got the details wrong.
00:03:24.040 Nope.
00:03:24.400 This was a premeditated and a postmeditated lie, okay?
00:03:30.880 Intended to morally blackmail Megan into a position
00:03:33.940 to decide right now on the spot
00:03:36.840 whether you are going to stand with evil Candace
00:03:39.780 who was accusing Erica Kirk of murdering her own husband.
00:03:43.960 And that lie backfired gloriously.
00:03:47.160 By the way, I think if it had been any other person,
00:03:50.880 like if it was not Megyn Kelly who was sitting across from Ben,
00:03:54.060 his strategy would have worked.
00:03:55.620 That was high pressure, peer pressure.
00:03:58.760 She happens to be extraordinarily media trained
00:04:01.800 and she didn't buck, okay?
00:04:04.080 She looked uncomfortable,
00:04:06.120 but she did not bend to his will.
00:04:09.680 She kind of just moved along
00:04:10.820 and said some stuff about Tucker,
00:04:12.780 asked again, like, are you sure she said that?
00:04:15.460 And he says, yes.
00:04:16.740 Yes, she said that.
00:04:17.680 And then she found out, obviously,
00:04:20.480 that I did not say that.
00:04:22.100 And the following night of her tour,
00:04:24.580 during a Q&A section,
00:04:26.680 somebody named Josh stepped up
00:04:28.820 and asked her about that moment.
00:04:31.040 And here is what Megyn Kelly said.
00:04:33.300 Hi, Megyn.
00:04:34.220 Hi.
00:04:34.700 My name is Joshua.
00:04:36.340 My question is, during a recent stop,
00:04:38.600 you had Ben Shapiro as a guest
00:04:40.420 and he had made some claims about Candace
00:04:43.720 saying that she had said certain things online
00:04:46.200 and when he made those claims,
00:04:48.040 you looked visibly uncomfortable
00:04:49.880 because, you know, you hadn't heard that
00:04:52.340 and couldn't verify that.
00:04:53.760 So my question is,
00:04:54.880 why did you look so uncomfortable in that moment
00:04:57.460 and have you researched the claims that he made since?
00:05:00.620 Thank you for that.
00:05:01.680 Yeah, no, he said that Candace has been claiming
00:05:03.760 Erica Kirk was behind the murder of Charlie,
00:05:06.720 which I had not heard
00:05:09.020 and I was taken aback
00:05:10.780 because that seems like something I would have heard.
00:05:12.740 It's so crazy.
00:05:13.880 And I have since learned it is not true.
00:05:16.960 Candace has not made that claim.
00:05:18.640 And in fact, I've now seen several clips
00:05:21.760 of Candace specifically defending Erica Kirk
00:05:24.200 and saying she would never make a claim like that about Erica
00:05:26.960 and that she, you know,
00:05:28.120 she is open-minded to other people at Turning Point.
00:05:31.100 That's obvious.
00:05:32.140 She's been making that point.
00:05:33.100 I had heard that point.
00:05:34.120 But that, but she has,
00:05:36.240 but she's specifically been defending Erica Kirk
00:05:38.220 and she's been saying she does not think that of Erica.
00:05:40.760 And in fact, if you read her comments,
00:05:41.920 she's under pressure to make comments about Erica.
00:05:44.040 And so far, what I've seen, she hasn't.
00:05:46.760 So thank you for that question.
00:05:50.120 And I'll tell you right now, Megan was not done.
00:05:52.960 And I will say this,
00:05:54.580 even if I remove myself from a situation,
00:05:57.320 it is actually the most disrespectful thing
00:06:00.960 that you can do to someone
00:06:02.180 that you purport to be friends with or friendly with.
00:06:05.300 I can't even imagine that.
00:06:07.220 Like, hey, will you join me on stage?
00:06:09.080 I really like you and I'm on tour
00:06:10.840 and I'd love to have you on stage for a discussion.
00:06:13.260 And then this person starts coming after me
00:06:16.060 and questioning my moral compass.
00:06:18.360 Really process that.
00:06:19.320 That's just not,
00:06:20.460 that's just not cool beyond anything else.
00:06:22.720 So I was pretty dumbfounded
00:06:24.060 when Dave Rubin weighed in on the matter
00:06:26.200 and he called what Ben did,
00:06:28.660 effectively trying to humiliate Megan on her own stage,
00:06:32.380 he referred to it as almost an act of bravery.
00:06:34.700 Take a listen to what Dave Rubin says.
00:06:36.540 All right.
00:06:37.120 First off, again, like I know I'm,
00:06:39.020 I guess I'm glazing Ben right now,
00:06:40.920 but he deserves it.
00:06:41.740 It is not easy to go onto someone else's show in general
00:06:45.020 when it's not a live audience and criticize them.
00:06:47.500 But it's really not easy to do it
00:06:49.280 when you're in front of thousands of people.
00:06:50.940 I don't know how many people are at those shows,
00:06:52.740 but it's certainly thousands.
00:06:54.340 You can add it to me.
00:06:55.540 When thousands of people are there to watch Megan
00:07:00.320 and then you have to criticize her a little bit
00:07:03.060 and he did it absolutely respectfully
00:07:04.800 and I think he did it properly.
00:07:07.480 Listen, I don't care.
00:07:08.680 Look, I don't, you can tell,
00:07:09.560 I don't really want to talk about Tucker.
00:07:10.940 I certainly don't want to talk about this Nick guy,
00:07:12.460 but sometimes these things just hit you in the desk
00:07:14.140 and I agree with Ben.
00:07:15.360 Like I have a job to do
00:07:16.740 and if I don't address the things
00:07:18.240 sometimes that I don't want to,
00:07:19.660 then I'm probably not very good at my job
00:07:21.200 and you should watch another show.
00:07:23.120 I don't really want to talk about Candace.
00:07:24.680 We were great friends for a long time.
00:07:26.260 She has been to this house for dinner.
00:07:27.760 She loves Chicken Farm.
00:07:31.060 Well, I can fact check true.
00:07:32.340 I have been to his house for dinner
00:07:33.160 and I do really love Chicken Farm
00:07:34.420 and I had a good one at his house.
00:07:35.660 I will say that.
00:07:36.360 I'm not going to front.
00:07:37.540 But the other part that he's saying here,
00:07:39.660 I don't know what happens in New York Zionist
00:07:41.220 where you just, on this one topic
00:07:43.520 and this was what it was with Dave Rubin
00:07:45.400 and why I had to stop being friends with him
00:07:47.160 or friendly with him
00:07:48.200 is like they just don't know
00:07:49.340 what it actually means to be a good friend.
00:07:50.860 You do not, when you are invited
00:07:53.360 to join somebody on stage,
00:07:55.520 prepare a lie, right?
00:07:57.320 Present them with a lie
00:07:58.360 and try to peer pressure them
00:07:59.620 in front of their own fans.
00:08:00.840 That's like there are a million things
00:08:02.280 that could happen
00:08:02.940 before that ever comes to it.
00:08:04.400 She did not invite him to have a debate.
00:08:06.880 She invited him to come on her tour
00:08:09.120 and to introduce,
00:08:11.220 you know, to have him in front of her audience
00:08:12.820 and to have a conversation about their values.
00:08:15.060 It's just not the right place,
00:08:16.600 not the right time.
00:08:17.480 And it really just shows
00:08:19.340 that you're not a good person
00:08:20.160 because you know she probably went backstage,
00:08:22.100 okay?
00:08:22.880 And said hello to him,
00:08:24.560 was all friendly.
00:08:25.280 If you want to take her to the side
00:08:26.280 and said, hey,
00:08:26.940 I wanted to have a face-to-face conversation with you.
00:08:29.600 That's how like regular people
00:08:31.500 would handle something like that.
00:08:33.180 Not try to humiliate you on your own stage.
00:08:34.760 That's just going to make Megan upset
00:08:37.480 and Megan does eventually do
00:08:40.680 what I do when I get mad.
00:08:41.960 I double down on the truth, right?
00:08:44.240 That is what I sentence people to,
00:08:46.360 more truth.
00:08:47.140 And it's fantastic
00:08:48.140 to just be able to share more truth
00:08:49.660 and you don't have to be vengeful.
00:08:51.800 You can just share more truth
00:08:53.080 and it's deeply upsetting to them.
00:08:54.500 And that's what she does.
00:08:55.460 She was literally trending all weekend.
00:08:57.880 This video that she shared
00:09:00.340 was incredibly interesting
00:09:01.320 because you will recall
00:09:03.320 that after Charlie died,
00:09:05.120 there was basically just me,
00:09:06.900 Tucker, and Megan
00:09:07.840 that were trying to say,
00:09:09.040 hey, something like was going on
00:09:11.780 and he was feeling a lot of peer pressure
00:09:13.420 in the weeks leading up to his death
00:09:16.200 and Zionists were claiming that's all a lie
00:09:18.720 and Tucker was like, no.
00:09:20.520 Charlie asked me explicitly in July
00:09:23.120 to go on stage
00:09:24.060 and to go after Israel
00:09:25.540 trying to drag us into the Iran war
00:09:27.920 and to,
00:09:29.760 I was talking to him about Jeffrey Epstein
00:09:31.560 and I was saying to Charlie,
00:09:33.240 I won't do it
00:09:33.940 and Charlie wanted me to do it, right?
00:09:36.620 And the Zionist said that he was lying.
00:09:38.540 I'm going to refresh your memory here
00:09:40.440 and let you listen to what Tucker claimed
00:09:42.740 that they then said was a lie.
00:09:45.440 Before that speech that I gave in July,
00:09:49.140 we had a conversation about this backstage
00:09:51.960 right before I went on
00:09:53.280 and I was fulminating
00:09:55.100 and getting all red in the face
00:09:56.640 like I often do to my shame
00:09:58.380 and I was mad thinking about this
00:10:00.240 and thinking about the effort
00:10:02.340 by the neocons in the United States
00:10:03.980 to draw us in to another forever war
00:10:07.380 with Iran.
00:10:08.880 Not a defense of Iran, of course,
00:10:10.220 it's merely an acknowledgement
00:10:11.340 that we've done this before.
00:10:13.080 This happened in Iraq
00:10:14.200 which we entered into
00:10:16.760 at the behest of those same
00:10:19.420 foreign policy strategists
00:10:20.860 and it didn't work.
00:10:23.780 And so I was going on at some length
00:10:25.760 backstage with Charlie
00:10:26.900 and I said,
00:10:28.720 you know,
00:10:30.220 probably not going to talk about that.
00:10:31.380 I'm not going to torture you.
00:10:32.560 I know your donors hate this
00:10:33.780 when I say that.
00:10:35.260 And also Epstein was in the news
00:10:37.220 and it was clear to me
00:10:39.300 that Epstein's probably not
00:10:41.360 like a Mossad agent or something
00:10:42.720 but Epstein clearly had contact
00:10:44.980 with Israeli intelligence
00:10:46.200 and American intelligence
00:10:47.400 and French intelligence
00:10:48.280 but the only one you're not allowed
00:10:49.120 to talk about is Israeli intelligence.
00:10:50.900 But it seemed true to me
00:10:52.420 and I had done some work on that.
00:10:54.520 I knew a bunch of people
00:10:55.540 pretty close to that story
00:10:56.680 so I thought that
00:10:58.140 and I said that to Charlie
00:10:59.420 and I said,
00:11:00.040 but I'm not going to say that
00:11:00.760 because I don't want to make
00:11:01.560 your donors mad
00:11:02.180 and I know it's just going to be
00:11:03.060 like an endless flurry of texts
00:11:06.360 telling you to stop
00:11:07.260 or you're going to lose
00:11:09.000 a bunch of funding.
00:11:09.900 And he looked at me,
00:11:11.020 I'll never forget it,
00:11:12.500 and said,
00:11:13.620 go all the way.
00:11:14.580 Do it.
00:11:15.200 Go all the way.
00:11:15.800 I said, man,
00:11:16.580 you know,
00:11:16.840 a lot of things I can talk about.
00:11:18.380 I don't need to talk about that.
00:11:19.660 And he said,
00:11:20.140 do it.
00:11:20.580 Yeah.
00:11:23.280 Like I said,
00:11:23.700 they tried to bury Charlie in a yarmulke
00:11:25.160 and we were telling you,
00:11:26.540 no,
00:11:27.260 he had a change of heart
00:11:28.200 towards the end
00:11:28.900 and I was telling you
00:11:29.840 that Turning Point
00:11:30.640 had captured that.
00:11:32.400 They were all miked, okay?
00:11:34.000 So Turning Point captured that
00:11:35.680 and they could have easily released it
00:11:37.500 to give me a little bit of backup,
00:11:38.920 but of course,
00:11:39.400 that wasn't going to come from them.
00:11:40.720 Well, just my luck
00:11:41.780 and Tucker's luck
00:11:42.640 that Megyn Kelly
00:11:43.380 actually caught very quickly.
00:11:45.820 Maybe it looks like
00:11:46.420 maybe her assistant's backstage.
00:11:47.960 I don't know the backstory here,
00:11:48.980 but she was in that discussion
00:11:50.560 which I had not heard before
00:11:51.780 and she reveals very quickly
00:11:54.960 you were going to hear Charlie say
00:11:57.600 that Tucker should go for it.
00:11:59.800 So this is what Megyn Kelly
00:12:01.800 released on her show yesterday
00:12:03.140 and you should go watch the full episode.
00:12:04.740 Take a listen.
00:12:05.840 I found a video
00:12:07.560 of me,
00:12:09.960 Tucker,
00:12:10.520 and Charlie
00:12:11.920 speaking backstage
00:12:14.500 right before Tucker went out.
00:12:17.320 Tucker and I were talking.
00:12:19.260 Charlie came over
00:12:20.440 and interrupted
00:12:21.220 for just a second
00:12:22.140 and you can hear him
00:12:23.960 on this tape
00:12:24.600 which I've listened to many times.
00:12:25.900 It's very clear on my phone,
00:12:26.880 less clear here probably
00:12:27.700 as we play it,
00:12:28.400 but he says to Tucker,
00:12:31.300 go Max.
00:12:32.220 He interrupts the conversation
00:12:33.520 because he has to say
00:12:34.460 to Tucker something
00:12:35.200 and what was so important
00:12:36.940 to him to tell Tucker
00:12:37.960 was go,
00:12:39.200 go Max.
00:12:40.460 Here it is.
00:12:41.160 It's quick.
00:12:50.920 It just happens to be on tape
00:12:52.500 and it backs up
00:12:54.300 what Tucker said.
00:12:57.260 Well, Charlie,
00:12:58.320 we're going Max now,
00:13:00.500 okay?
00:13:00.900 Because Tucker told the truth.
00:13:02.540 He had a conversation
00:13:03.420 with Charlie about everything
00:13:04.580 and Charlie wanted him
00:13:05.440 to go hard.
00:13:06.080 Now Megan's adding to it.
00:13:07.200 He even interrupted
00:13:08.020 right before he hit the stage
00:13:09.020 and said go Max,
00:13:10.000 go Max
00:13:10.540 because Tucker,
00:13:11.840 I mean because Charlie
00:13:12.480 was done with these donors.
00:13:14.380 He was done with them.
00:13:15.000 He really was
00:13:15.580 and I can tell you another story
00:13:16.620 about which donor
00:13:17.720 was waiting for him
00:13:18.540 once Tucker got off stage
00:13:19.600 and yelled at Charlie.
00:13:21.260 That was a female Jewish donor
00:13:22.860 and I will be outing her later
00:13:24.380 because I don't care
00:13:24.880 about anything right now.
00:13:26.240 Anyways,
00:13:26.680 point being is
00:13:27.500 we were telling the truth
00:13:28.620 and we have been facing
00:13:30.000 so much peer pressure,
00:13:31.660 so much nastiness
00:13:32.580 for just trying to get out
00:13:33.720 the true narrative
00:13:34.720 about where Charlie's headspace
00:13:36.020 was at before he died.
00:13:38.080 And my favorite part
00:13:40.780 of all of this now
00:13:42.260 is watching them lose.
00:13:44.680 The people who tried
00:13:45.900 with all of the money
00:13:47.140 in the world
00:13:48.040 to artificially direct
00:13:50.000 the markets toward them
00:13:52.280 after Charlie died
00:13:53.500 are losing.
00:13:54.840 Okay?
00:13:55.440 The people who sold t-shirts
00:13:57.060 who got on stage
00:13:57.920 and said they were
00:13:58.560 Charlie's favorite pastor,
00:14:00.300 America's pastor,
00:14:02.080 I'm going to take over
00:14:03.880 for Charlie.
00:14:04.780 People who use
00:14:05.360 their connections,
00:14:06.300 their wealth
00:14:06.880 to get themselves
00:14:08.080 almost invited
00:14:09.780 to be a part
00:14:10.560 of Charlie Kirk's legacy.
00:14:12.040 People that didn't even
00:14:12.560 support Charlie Kirk
00:14:13.380 while he was alive.
00:14:14.600 The people who rushed
00:14:15.300 to lie about me
00:14:16.420 and Charlie's relationship
00:14:17.520 as close as we were.
00:14:19.400 You guys are losing.
00:14:20.540 I want you to know that
00:14:21.260 because the market,
00:14:22.620 turns out the market
00:14:23.240 is smarter than you are.
00:14:24.580 I go back to that
00:14:25.660 Taylor Lorenz tweet
00:14:26.900 early on.
00:14:28.160 She's a hardcore lefty,
00:14:29.460 yet in the immediate
00:14:30.340 aftermath of Charlie's death,
00:14:31.840 she said,
00:14:32.380 it's wild
00:14:33.980 that Candace
00:14:34.620 is the only
00:14:35.620 right wing figure
00:14:37.440 that I've seen
00:14:38.140 posting in a way
00:14:38.900 where she seems
00:14:39.660 genuinely devastated
00:14:41.320 to have lost Charlie
00:14:42.820 as a friend.
00:14:43.660 Why did she tweet that?
00:14:45.040 Well, I have an answer
00:14:45.980 for that now, Taylor,
00:14:46.900 now that I'm seeing straight
00:14:47.820 because it's becoming
00:14:48.860 very clear to me
00:14:49.840 that Charlie was a product
00:14:51.200 to everybody else.
00:14:52.220 He was not a human being,
00:14:53.000 he was a product
00:14:53.600 that they felt
00:14:54.300 that they had manufactured.
00:14:55.940 That is my honest opinion
00:14:56.900 and I am entitled
00:14:57.640 to that opinion.
00:14:58.600 Okay?
00:14:59.420 And not only did they think
00:15:00.280 that they had manufactured him,
00:15:01.300 they felt that
00:15:02.040 he was now malfunctioning.
00:15:05.120 He was malfunctioning.
00:15:08.120 And we're not
00:15:10.100 going to let this go.
00:15:11.740 We are not going
00:15:13.000 to stop speaking
00:15:13.620 about this topic
00:15:14.340 because I sense
00:15:15.100 that we are getting
00:15:15.780 very close
00:15:16.400 because they are very angry.
00:15:18.180 And we should recap
00:15:18.980 very quickly
00:15:19.660 the verifiable lies
00:15:22.040 that we have thus far
00:15:22.960 been told
00:15:23.760 by Turning Point USA
00:15:25.640 themselves,
00:15:26.700 which apparently
00:15:27.540 they're trying to say
00:15:28.140 it's off-limits
00:15:28.720 so now you can't call out
00:15:29.920 all these lies
00:15:30.440 that Turning Point USA
00:15:31.220 has told you
00:15:31.980 this is what they're
00:15:32.980 trying to struggle
00:15:33.560 session us into
00:15:34.420 because Erica Kirk
00:15:35.760 is now the CEO
00:15:37.040 so they're off-limits.
00:15:38.600 So they're allowed to lie.
00:15:40.500 No.
00:15:41.220 That's ridiculous.
00:15:42.480 We will not be following that.
00:15:44.160 Here's our list
00:15:44.880 and this is by no means
00:15:46.480 definitive, okay?
00:15:48.240 So getting this together
00:15:49.260 briefly,
00:15:51.060 they told us these lies.
00:15:52.140 The amazing,
00:15:53.020 heroic,
00:15:53.420 magnificent Mikey McCoy
00:15:54.620 had blood all over him.
00:15:56.900 That's a lie
00:15:57.660 told by Pastor Rob McCoy.
00:15:59.880 Charlie was a committed
00:16:00.940 evangelical
00:16:01.540 who only liked
00:16:02.940 Catholic architecture.
00:16:04.900 That's a lie
00:16:05.740 told and reinforced
00:16:07.080 by Alex Clark
00:16:08.080 and Andrew Colvett.
00:16:09.860 Lie number three
00:16:10.460 is that Charlie's neck
00:16:11.480 stopped a .30-06 bullet
00:16:13.000 because Charlie ate salad,
00:16:14.780 he had strong bones,
00:16:16.060 it was a modern-day
00:16:17.100 Christian miracle.
00:16:18.200 That's a lie.
00:16:19.100 The offender
00:16:19.560 is Andrew Colvett.
00:16:21.120 Another lie,
00:16:22.280 Charlie never blinked
00:16:23.420 in his support for Israel.
00:16:25.100 Offender,
00:16:25.500 Josh Hammer,
00:16:26.780 BB Netanyahu,
00:16:28.240 insert Zionist here,
00:16:29.640 many Zionist,
00:16:30.400 Christian Zionist
00:16:31.000 influencers as well.
00:16:32.240 That turned out to be
00:16:33.440 a big lie,
00:16:34.640 an unnecessary lie.
00:16:36.400 Lie number five,
00:16:37.120 the magnificent Mikey McCoy
00:16:38.620 called his dad first.
00:16:40.580 That's a lie.
00:16:41.480 Rob McCoy told that lie.
00:16:43.820 Number six
00:16:45.020 is Terrell,
00:16:46.020 the AV guy,
00:16:47.300 was told to remove
00:16:48.680 the cameras by police.
00:16:50.220 That's not true.
00:16:51.120 I have every second
00:16:51.880 of his moves.
00:16:52.820 That offender
00:16:53.420 would be Tyler Boyer,
00:16:54.820 okay?
00:16:55.420 He lied.
00:16:56.420 Number seven,
00:16:57.300 Terrell moved
00:16:58.240 the SD cards
00:16:59.400 because people
00:17:00.660 were stealing hats.
00:17:02.480 Question mark,
00:17:03.220 Andrew Colvett,
00:17:03.900 what if you were scared
00:17:05.180 about people stealing?
00:17:06.380 Maybe remove the cameras?
00:17:09.120 Very expensive cameras
00:17:10.820 would be the thing
00:17:11.940 that they would steal.
00:17:13.020 What are they going to do
00:17:13.500 with your SD card?
00:17:14.400 They're going to resell that?
00:17:15.640 Like, that doesn't make sense.
00:17:16.780 Those are pretty cheap,
00:17:17.940 right?
00:17:19.780 Lie number eight,
00:17:21.740 Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk
00:17:23.040 never had any bad blood
00:17:24.700 between them.
00:17:25.380 The offender there
00:17:26.160 was Alex Clark.
00:17:27.660 Ben Shapiro was on her show
00:17:29.080 and I don't know why
00:17:30.120 she tried that little bit
00:17:31.300 of propaganda
00:17:31.800 when she knew
00:17:32.420 that wasn't factually true.
00:17:34.280 Nine,
00:17:35.080 Charlie established Doge
00:17:37.900 and that wasn't unusual.
00:17:39.640 Turning Point
00:17:40.100 financially audits
00:17:41.800 the company every year
00:17:42.720 since its inception.
00:17:44.120 Lie.
00:17:45.080 Doge was entirely different
00:17:46.400 from the apparatus
00:17:47.340 of financially auditing yourself,
00:17:50.100 which is recommended
00:17:50.840 and actually in some states
00:17:52.240 required for a company
00:17:53.360 that size.
00:17:54.000 That's 501c3.
00:17:56.140 And 10,
00:17:57.000 like I said,
00:17:57.460 this is by no means
00:17:58.780 a definitive list.
00:18:00.000 Mikey McCoy
00:18:00.940 was a hero that day.
00:18:02.420 Now, you could say
00:18:03.300 that's subjective,
00:18:04.580 but I feel like that,
00:18:06.180 like, objectively,
00:18:07.580 to be a hero,
00:18:09.060 you can't just make
00:18:09.800 quick phone calls.
00:18:10.760 I don't know.
00:18:11.460 I mean,
00:18:11.880 not include 911
00:18:13.380 in that list.
00:18:14.500 So,
00:18:15.360 I'm going to put that
00:18:16.020 on our list of lies.
00:18:17.820 Now,
00:18:18.460 we're going to learn
00:18:18.860 some more things
00:18:19.860 that are interesting
00:18:20.760 and compelling.
00:18:21.560 Now,
00:18:21.700 remember,
00:18:22.220 there was that mass panic
00:18:23.320 about me telling the truth
00:18:26.160 about how long it takes
00:18:28.220 for campus events
00:18:29.860 to come together,
00:18:31.000 the schedule,
00:18:32.100 how long,
00:18:32.920 how early
00:18:33.600 they will start promoting
00:18:34.480 for people to buy tickets.
00:18:36.320 I was on tour
00:18:37.120 every single semester,
00:18:39.880 okay,
00:18:40.360 up until June of 2024,
00:18:43.780 okay,
00:18:44.980 and they were mass
00:18:46.580 panicking about this.
00:18:47.480 They were all coming out
00:18:48.160 of the gates,
00:18:48.720 Allie,
00:18:49.060 Stuckey,
00:18:49.620 debunking.
00:18:50.100 I was,
00:18:50.320 like,
00:18:50.420 totally bizarre
00:18:51.200 as if I didn't work
00:18:51.920 for Turning Point
00:18:52.480 and go on these tours
00:18:53.140 with Charlie,
00:18:53.780 and when people start
00:18:55.080 panicking in that way,
00:18:57.940 they're just alarms,
00:18:59.300 okay,
00:18:59.440 you have to think of these
00:19:00.020 people as alarms,
00:19:00.980 and you should understand
00:19:01.880 that you're getting
00:19:02.640 close to something,
00:19:03.940 and what I've learned
00:19:05.360 has been pretty incredible.
00:19:07.440 So,
00:19:07.920 going back to our timeline,
00:19:09.440 I will remind you,
00:19:10.180 it was July 18th,
00:19:11.940 according to the local Utah news,
00:19:13.600 they found this out,
00:19:14.320 it was July 18th,
00:19:16.120 that UVU Turning Point chapter
00:19:18.880 requested to have Charlie speak.
00:19:21.220 That is very late in the day
00:19:23.740 for a request.
00:19:24.900 They're usually backed up
00:19:25.800 entire semesters.
00:19:27.620 Well,
00:19:27.760 guess how quickly
00:19:28.380 Turning Point headquarters
00:19:29.580 not only approved it,
00:19:30.640 but then sent people to campus
00:19:32.380 to begin scouting a location
00:19:34.180 almost immediately
00:19:35.640 in early August.
00:19:37.240 Within two weeks,
00:19:38.040 they had boots on the ground,
00:19:39.500 and they were scouting
00:19:40.740 for a location,
00:19:41.500 and it gets worse,
00:19:42.900 okay?
00:19:43.680 I learned
00:19:44.720 that after
00:19:46.920 UVU
00:19:48.400 showed them
00:19:49.380 multiple options
00:19:50.720 inside and outside,
00:19:52.960 UVU
00:19:53.720 recommended
00:19:54.680 to Turning Point
00:19:55.660 that they
00:19:56.340 not hold
00:19:57.860 the event
00:19:58.600 in the amphitheater
00:19:59.740 because of safety reasons.
00:20:02.100 Not a good idea
00:20:02.800 because
00:20:03.500 we can't shut
00:20:04.580 this area down.
00:20:05.500 It's not a good idea
00:20:06.260 because
00:20:06.820 there's no control here.
00:20:08.460 We cannot
00:20:09.100 control the traffic,
00:20:11.320 the flow of traffic
00:20:12.060 coming in and out
00:20:12.660 of this amphitheater.
00:20:14.240 But Turning Point
00:20:15.600 insisted
00:20:16.600 that that was where
00:20:17.660 they wanted to have the event.
00:20:18.880 It was because
00:20:19.300 Turning Point
00:20:20.040 insisted
00:20:20.900 that that event
00:20:21.760 was then held outside.
00:20:22.700 Now,
00:20:22.840 I can tell you,
00:20:23.860 having done these events,
00:20:25.100 that was the first thing
00:20:26.240 among many
00:20:27.180 that struck me as odd
00:20:28.560 is anybody can just walk into it.
00:20:30.480 That's the whole point
00:20:31.420 of safety
00:20:32.220 is you want to make sure
00:20:33.480 that these students,
00:20:34.480 you're checking tickets,
00:20:35.780 you have security
00:20:36.600 looking at them up and down.
00:20:37.720 Do they look weird?
00:20:38.640 Who are we supposed
00:20:39.060 to keep eyes on?
00:20:40.460 This guy's weird.
00:20:41.980 Let's watch this guy
00:20:43.120 because he's mumbling
00:20:43.980 to himself.
00:20:44.740 The whole point of that,
00:20:46.060 the reason why you feel safe
00:20:47.020 going to a Turning Point event
00:20:48.100 is because
00:20:49.080 not everybody can just walk up
00:20:50.840 and sit down
00:20:52.540 when they want to.
00:20:53.640 Okay?
00:20:53.820 You want to look people
00:20:54.660 in the eye.
00:20:55.260 Suddenly,
00:20:55.800 that didn't matter to them.
00:20:57.140 Turning Point
00:20:57.540 insisted on having the event
00:20:59.120 outside despite UVU saying
00:21:00.940 they did not,
00:21:02.160 they communicated to them,
00:21:03.200 they did not think
00:21:03.860 the outside was the best idea
00:21:05.580 because of safety reasons.
00:21:07.640 So my question now
00:21:08.660 is which specific
00:21:10.300 Turning Point employees
00:21:11.540 went down
00:21:12.860 and picked that venue outside?
00:21:14.620 I want to know.
00:21:15.440 In fact,
00:21:15.720 I need to know
00:21:16.460 and I will know.
00:21:18.100 Right?
00:21:18.460 We're just,
00:21:18.920 if you know,
00:21:19.620 send me a tip,
00:21:20.460 but we're going to find out.
00:21:21.760 Okay?
00:21:22.620 What's the events department
00:21:23.700 looking like that does that?
00:21:24.920 I know,
00:21:25.380 by the way,
00:21:26.480 that Mikey McCoy's wife
00:21:27.780 is one of the events directors.
00:21:30.020 Now,
00:21:30.320 I'm not saying
00:21:30.840 that she does campus events
00:21:31.820 because there's different departments.
00:21:32.900 She might do the bigger events,
00:21:33.980 but was she at all involved
00:21:36.040 in planning this event?
00:21:37.000 I want to know.
00:21:37.860 She may not have been.
00:21:38.880 I need to know
00:21:39.560 and I will know
00:21:40.640 and if you would like us
00:21:42.000 to find out quicker
00:21:43.580 because you have that information,
00:21:45.060 please send us an email
00:21:46.100 to moretipsatcandiceowens.com.
00:21:48.480 Who were the Turning Point employees
00:21:49.780 that were the boots on the ground
00:21:50.880 that scouted that event
00:21:52.320 and that location
00:21:53.140 and insisted on the outside?
00:21:55.320 The reason they gave them
00:21:56.660 that they insisted on it
00:21:57.760 was because
00:21:58.260 they liked the place
00:21:59.900 outside where Charlie
00:22:02.080 could pull up,
00:22:03.120 where the vehicles
00:22:03.700 would be able to pull up.
00:22:05.180 Makes no sense.
00:22:06.240 I have gone through
00:22:07.000 an unbelievable amount
00:22:08.260 of kitchens.
00:22:09.220 It doesn't matter
00:22:09.820 where you pull onto the events
00:22:11.300 to speak at a college campus.
00:22:12.380 You're always walking
00:22:13.140 through a kitchen
00:22:13.880 somewhere on campus.
00:22:15.360 So the idea they liked
00:22:16.480 where they could park their cars,
00:22:18.180 it's not tracking for me.
00:22:20.600 Okay?
00:22:20.920 It's just not tracking for me.
00:22:22.840 Something else
00:22:23.480 that I want to say
00:22:24.680 because somebody
00:22:25.940 may have more information
00:22:26.840 that will make it easier
00:22:28.020 for me
00:22:28.560 is that we randomly received
00:22:29.700 a tip from somebody
00:22:30.560 who knew Pastor Rob McCoy
00:22:32.100 from Thousand Oaks, California
00:22:33.520 and they were speaking
00:22:35.240 about just kind of the area
00:22:37.580 and how tight-knit it is
00:22:38.980 and the church
00:22:39.540 and they said
00:22:41.260 one of the things
00:22:41.700 that's really weird
00:22:42.360 is some of us
00:22:42.780 have been speaking
00:22:43.380 and we had never heard
00:22:44.500 of a Mikey McCoy,
00:22:46.400 like his son Mikey McCoy.
00:22:48.160 So I followed that tip
00:22:49.320 pretty lightly.
00:22:50.040 This is by no means
00:22:50.800 like a deep search
00:22:51.560 but somebody
00:22:52.820 on the inside of Turning Point
00:22:53.880 told me that Mikey
00:22:55.040 or Michael rather
00:22:57.000 is not his first name.
00:22:59.040 It's a middle name, right?
00:23:01.140 And I just want to know
00:23:03.000 what his real name is
00:23:03.780 because I am not letting go
00:23:05.700 of this like Mikey investigation.
00:23:08.100 Something just feels off to me.
00:23:10.180 Rob and Mikey,
00:23:11.200 something ain't right.
00:23:11.980 It's not tracking.
00:23:13.200 So if you have that information,
00:23:15.120 please email
00:23:15.880 moretipsatcandiceowens.com.
00:23:18.140 Now, to my Turning Point USA people,
00:23:20.760 I would like to give
00:23:21.540 a special shout out
00:23:22.860 to Dylan Erickson
00:23:23.900 and Austin Erickson,
00:23:25.020 the bros
00:23:25.760 that work at TPUSA.
00:23:27.340 I want you both
00:23:28.060 to know that I am on to you.
00:23:29.740 I have known every word
00:23:30.900 that you have said about me,
00:23:32.440 okay?
00:23:32.780 And I have been investigating
00:23:33.800 you guys for two months straight.
00:23:35.380 Just so you know,
00:23:36.020 like every word you're saying,
00:23:37.780 I'm tracking, okay?
00:23:39.220 Just wanted to do
00:23:39.720 a live shout out to you guys
00:23:41.120 because you're a major piece of this,
00:23:43.000 this puzzle
00:23:43.480 that I'm trying to put together.
00:23:44.840 I'm aware
00:23:45.640 of why
00:23:46.580 ReFi,
00:23:47.500 the major sponsor
00:23:48.380 behind Charlie
00:23:49.280 and Dylan,
00:23:50.820 your involvement,
00:23:51.760 Austin,
00:23:52.000 your involvement
00:23:52.600 with bringing that sponsor on.
00:23:54.380 Things got a little different
00:23:55.720 once they were brought on.
00:23:57.360 Demands got interesting.
00:23:59.320 You are on my radar.
00:24:01.360 You've been on my radar
00:24:02.360 since you were involved
00:24:04.440 in creating the lie,
00:24:06.380 the alibi lie
00:24:07.600 for the Hamptons retreat
00:24:09.120 with Seth Dillon.
00:24:10.740 You lied, okay?
00:24:12.060 Seth Dillon did press Charlie.
00:24:13.300 Charlie himself
00:24:14.420 described the Hamptons
00:24:16.640 event as an intervention.
00:24:18.860 And you felt the need
00:24:20.580 to insert yourself
00:24:21.500 in to lie.
00:24:23.520 And there has to be
00:24:24.500 a reason why, right?
00:24:26.260 We don't have to lie
00:24:27.640 when we don't fear the truth.
00:24:29.720 So I just wanted you guys
00:24:30.640 to know that I'm on to you.
00:24:31.960 And I don't know
00:24:33.340 because I felt like
00:24:33.760 maybe you were
00:24:34.400 just like,
00:24:35.720 oh, she hasn't mentioned us.
00:24:36.760 And like,
00:24:37.080 I've got a whole file.
00:24:38.300 We're going to get there.
00:24:39.280 We're going to get to everybody.
00:24:40.380 We're going to get to everybody.
00:24:41.740 Anyway,
00:24:42.020 to the turning point employees,
00:24:43.960 also,
00:24:44.460 I want you to be aware
00:24:46.060 and very careful
00:24:47.240 because I know
00:24:48.460 a lot of you guys
00:24:49.140 are leaking to different people.
00:24:50.100 Be careful
00:24:50.660 leaking emails, okay?
00:24:53.640 You can leak the content
00:24:54.920 of the emails,
00:24:55.860 but do not leak
00:24:56.640 the actual emails themselves
00:24:58.000 because we've had
00:24:58.820 some tech people
00:24:59.900 alert us
00:25:01.300 that they are running
00:25:03.740 something through softwares.
00:25:05.040 And it looks like
00:25:05.500 Turning Point
00:25:06.040 has implemented a software
00:25:07.440 to track your email verbiage.
00:25:10.300 Essentially,
00:25:10.980 they can make it
00:25:11.780 so like everybody's email,
00:25:13.440 one word is different.
00:25:14.840 So if that email
00:25:15.940 ever hits the public,
00:25:16.960 the actual picture
00:25:17.820 of the email,
00:25:19.400 they will know exactly
00:25:20.200 which employee it came from.
00:25:21.780 So leak the information.
00:25:23.120 Do not leak the actual email.
00:25:24.680 Or if you do leak the email,
00:25:25.900 tell the people
00:25:26.400 not to share the email, okay?
00:25:28.720 I wish they put
00:25:29.600 the same energy
00:25:30.220 behind finding out
00:25:30.980 who killed Charlie Kirk.
00:25:32.020 Am I crazy?
00:25:33.160 I'm crazy.
00:25:33.700 I was like,
00:25:34.160 they don't want people
00:25:35.260 speaking about
00:25:36.320 what's happening
00:25:36.900 at the company
00:25:37.740 that's supposed to be
00:25:38.460 a charity
00:25:39.000 interested in free speech
00:25:40.840 and faith
00:25:41.400 and they're worried
00:25:42.460 about what information
00:25:43.760 getting out exactly.
00:25:45.380 What are you guys
00:25:45.680 so concerned about?
00:25:46.780 I don't know.
00:25:47.580 It's not making sense to me.
00:25:50.100 It is kind of making sense
00:25:50.980 to me if I'm being honest,
00:25:51.840 but we will just
00:25:53.360 keep trucking along.
00:25:54.980 Also,
00:25:55.700 as we continue
00:25:56.780 to paint this picture
00:25:58.260 of the corruption
00:26:00.180 of faith,
00:26:01.660 right?
00:26:02.020 TP USA faith
00:26:03.420 has got my attention.
00:26:04.960 I learned
00:26:05.800 that there was another pastor
00:26:07.200 who's close with Charlie.
00:26:09.040 We've received
00:26:09.500 some emails about him
00:26:10.440 who had a family member
00:26:11.940 who was present that day
00:26:13.400 and don't go away
00:26:15.160 because it's about
00:26:15.860 to get interesting.
00:26:16.860 We'll be right back.
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00:28:42.960 To get real specific,
00:28:44.600 by the way,
00:28:45.100 since we're going max,
00:28:46.160 if you went to high school
00:28:47.700 with Mikey McCoy,
00:28:49.920 Dylan Erickson,
00:28:50.860 or Austin Erickson,
00:28:51.660 I would like to hear from you
00:28:52.580 because I'm having
00:28:53.140 some trouble tracking
00:28:54.100 these people.
00:28:55.180 It's like they just materialize
00:28:56.520 and I have
00:28:58.080 just some interesting leads.
00:28:59.680 So if you went to high school
00:29:01.100 with these individuals,
00:29:01.720 I'd like to hear from you
00:29:02.340 because these people didn't,
00:29:03.840 to my knowledge,
00:29:05.320 Mikey did not go to college
00:29:06.840 and yet he's a chief of staff,
00:29:08.480 he's 23,
00:29:09.120 he's super young.
00:29:10.580 There's some stuff
00:29:11.340 I need to be able to track
00:29:12.640 and I'm having difficulty
00:29:14.000 tracking that.
00:29:15.020 So thank you.
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00:29:18.580 Beyond that,
00:29:19.400 I would like to follow up
00:29:20.480 with you guys
00:29:21.140 on something
00:29:21.900 that we left open-ended.
00:29:23.220 I'm also going to put together
00:29:24.260 a list of things
00:29:25.180 that are open-ended.
00:29:26.360 It may appear open-ended,
00:29:28.840 but I'm tracking down
00:29:29.960 everything on the side.
00:29:31.100 I am very organized
00:29:32.080 in the background here.
00:29:33.160 And it was regarding
00:29:34.300 why Charlie
00:29:35.440 had a medical file
00:29:37.220 at Utah Valley Hospital
00:29:38.880 despite the fact
00:29:40.140 that he went
00:29:40.940 to Timpanagos,
00:29:42.340 right?
00:29:42.820 I think you guys
00:29:43.340 have emailed me
00:29:43.900 and said that I'm
00:29:44.400 pronouncing that wrong.
00:29:45.540 I'm just going to rock
00:29:46.140 with Timpanagos.
00:29:47.400 Now,
00:29:48.020 we had wondered
00:29:49.080 if perhaps
00:29:50.080 the two hospitals
00:29:50.980 shared information
00:29:52.280 because that's
00:29:53.800 a plausibility
00:29:54.600 if you're using
00:29:55.780 the same tech
00:29:56.920 or maybe you're
00:29:57.500 within the same
00:29:58.000 healthcare system.
00:29:59.140 We can now confirm
00:30:00.200 that those two hospitals
00:30:01.220 do not.
00:30:02.540 They do not share information.
00:30:04.460 Timpanagos Hospital
00:30:05.560 is owned by HCA,
00:30:08.280 which uses a charting system
00:30:10.280 called VDI.
00:30:12.420 Utah Valley Hospital
00:30:13.560 is owned by IHC,
00:30:16.280 and they run
00:30:17.100 on a system called Epic,
00:30:18.500 which many of you guys
00:30:19.140 emailed me about.
00:30:19.820 Look,
00:30:19.940 I recognize the system.
00:30:20.880 It's Epic.
00:30:21.240 They had recently
00:30:22.040 implemented Epic.
00:30:23.360 They are not interlinked.
00:30:24.820 These two hospitals
00:30:25.440 do not speak to each other.
00:30:27.220 If a patient has never
00:30:28.260 been to Timpanagos Hospital,
00:30:29.860 but they have been
00:30:31.240 to Utah Valley,
00:30:32.940 their info
00:30:33.660 would not come up
00:30:35.000 at all
00:30:35.980 in Timpanagos' system.
00:30:37.600 So we don't know
00:30:38.260 why that is.
00:30:38.820 We don't know
00:30:39.240 why this anomaly occurred
00:30:40.200 where Charlie Kirk
00:30:40.880 had a file
00:30:41.460 and when nurses
00:30:43.540 were notified
00:30:44.120 not to touch the file.
00:30:45.500 We can't make sense of that.
00:30:46.620 It's very strange.
00:30:48.220 We're going to move on
00:30:48.740 from that.
00:30:49.060 I just wanted to follow up
00:30:49.760 and tell you that.
00:30:50.300 If you know something,
00:30:51.560 obviously email us.
00:30:52.660 We're going to move on
00:30:53.660 to something else
00:30:54.440 that I find interesting
00:30:56.220 because we all know
00:30:58.420 Bush did 9-11,
00:31:00.220 but did Bush do 9-10?
00:31:02.720 It's a joke.
00:31:03.480 It's a joke.
00:31:04.320 But we received this
00:31:06.180 interesting tip early on.
00:31:08.500 We didn't really know
00:31:08.920 what to do with it.
00:31:09.940 Some students
00:31:11.040 on the ground
00:31:12.080 described witnessing
00:31:14.120 an old man
00:31:15.700 talking to a bush,
00:31:16.900 right?
00:31:17.140 They said there was
00:31:17.840 this old man
00:31:18.420 and he was talking
00:31:19.960 to a bush.
00:31:21.380 Weird.
00:31:21.960 We thought,
00:31:22.440 okay,
00:31:22.860 that's weird.
00:31:24.180 It's weird,
00:31:25.160 first and foremost,
00:31:25.780 that there were
00:31:26.100 so many old people
00:31:27.680 in attendance
00:31:28.240 at this event,
00:31:29.220 full stop.
00:31:29.980 Older people
00:31:30.720 were all the ones
00:31:31.980 who happened
00:31:32.460 to be speaking
00:31:33.100 to the news.
00:31:33.760 I was like,
00:31:34.140 are there any
00:31:35.020 young college kids
00:31:36.560 available at UVU
00:31:37.840 that attended this event
00:31:38.760 that could have spoken
00:31:39.660 to the news?
00:31:40.780 Apparently not.
00:31:42.120 But like I said,
00:31:42.760 not much we can do
00:31:43.740 with that information,
00:31:44.560 so we just kind of
00:31:45.700 stored it in the back.
00:31:47.360 And then our source
00:31:49.160 was able to track down
00:31:50.400 a video of the
00:31:51.380 alleged old man
00:31:52.640 that they were saying
00:31:54.040 during like setup
00:31:54.900 before Charlie
00:31:56.140 had arrived
00:31:57.760 was talking to a bush.
00:31:59.820 Now,
00:32:00.260 I'm going to show you
00:32:01.260 the video they sent.
00:32:02.280 We absolutely cannot
00:32:03.540 definitively confirm
00:32:04.560 from this video
00:32:05.520 that he is speaking
00:32:07.120 to a bush,
00:32:07.780 but we can at the
00:32:08.460 very least confirm
00:32:10.100 that he's near the bush
00:32:11.560 and he's alone,
00:32:12.640 okay?
00:32:12.880 And here is that video
00:32:14.760 and I'm going to tell you
00:32:15.480 why that tip
00:32:16.240 suddenly became
00:32:16.840 interesting to me.
00:32:18.800 Okay,
00:32:19.200 we're going to show
00:32:19.600 it to you quickly
00:32:20.160 and then we're going
00:32:20.540 to slow it down
00:32:21.120 and circle down.
00:32:22.780 There he is.
00:32:23.740 There's the bush
00:32:24.280 we're referring to.
00:32:25.760 There we go.
00:32:26.660 Okay,
00:32:27.220 so that's the video
00:32:28.280 that we received
00:32:29.520 and it is interesting
00:32:31.440 because it turned out
00:32:32.800 that that old man
00:32:35.420 is the brother
00:32:36.920 of Pastor Jack Hibbs.
00:32:40.840 We've been speaking
00:32:41.280 about these pastors,
00:32:42.240 these pastors,
00:32:45.200 Pastor Hibbs,
00:32:46.520 great friend of Charlie Kirk,
00:32:48.340 also another leader
00:32:50.100 of a Calvary Chapel,
00:32:51.980 just like our boy McCoy.
00:32:55.280 Pastor McCoy.
00:32:57.120 Calvary Chapel Churches
00:32:58.520 in California.
00:32:59.540 Well, yeah,
00:33:00.040 Pastor Jack Hibbs
00:33:00.860 leads one.
00:33:02.300 Butch Hibbs is also
00:33:03.340 his brother
00:33:03.880 who's involved
00:33:04.740 in a Calvary Chapel Church
00:33:06.140 in Utah.
00:33:07.060 and later,
00:33:09.120 what's interesting
00:33:10.060 is he's behind Charlie
00:33:12.480 when he gets out
00:33:12.880 of the car.
00:33:13.720 Like, Charlie comes out
00:33:14.560 of his car,
00:33:15.140 arrives for the event.
00:33:16.460 He's with the amazing
00:33:17.760 Mikey McCoy
00:33:18.520 and you can see
00:33:20.800 that that
00:33:21.700 quote-unquote
00:33:22.960 crazy old man
00:33:23.780 as described by us
00:33:24.560 is actually,
00:33:25.400 he's here with Charlie
00:33:26.520 and Frank Turek
00:33:27.800 confirms that
00:33:28.640 that pastor,
00:33:29.680 that Butch Hibbs
00:33:31.120 is Pastor Jack Hibbs's
00:33:33.100 brother.
00:33:33.680 Take a listen.
00:33:34.900 So we get there,
00:33:36.240 we pray,
00:33:36.920 we get out of the car.
00:33:38.980 There's a whole bunch
00:33:39.900 of TPUSA leaders there
00:33:41.580 that want to pose
00:33:42.560 for pictures.
00:33:43.280 Charlie graciously
00:33:44.020 poses for pictures.
00:33:45.260 He posed
00:33:45.820 for a picture
00:33:46.960 with me
00:33:47.760 and we'll show
00:33:48.280 this picture here.
00:33:49.040 This is me,
00:33:50.480 Charlie,
00:33:51.680 and in the middle
00:33:53.160 is Butch Hibbs.
00:33:55.640 That's the brother
00:33:56.540 of Jack Hibbs,
00:33:57.860 Pastor Jack Hibbs.
00:33:59.380 And he came to the event
00:34:00.440 and wanted to meet us both
00:34:01.560 so we took a picture.
00:34:03.240 This picture was taken
00:34:04.220 maybe 20 minutes
00:34:05.160 before the assassin struck.
00:34:08.880 Now,
00:34:09.560 what's compelling
00:34:10.240 is really that
00:34:12.400 just like every other
00:34:13.820 one of these
00:34:14.400 New Age
00:34:15.100 Turning Point pastors,
00:34:17.600 Hibbs are from
00:34:18.740 a military family,
00:34:20.020 okay?
00:34:21.460 Butch Sr.
00:34:22.800 was in the Navy.
00:34:24.520 What he did
00:34:25.180 in the Navy
00:34:25.720 is unclear,
00:34:27.200 but I'm interested.
00:34:28.440 I'm just really interested.
00:34:30.280 Also,
00:34:30.720 something that I'm just
00:34:31.480 going to say
00:34:31.840 on the side here
00:34:32.560 is too many people
00:34:33.540 that are involved
00:34:34.200 in this Utah story
00:34:35.300 I met through
00:34:37.380 Prager University.
00:34:39.040 Like,
00:34:39.260 Jack Hibbs
00:34:39.760 was somebody
00:34:40.220 that Marissa flagged
00:34:41.500 for me that she wanted
00:34:42.300 me to have on my show.
00:34:43.740 Like,
00:34:43.840 she'd say,
00:34:44.200 like,
00:34:44.300 certain guests.
00:34:45.520 The guy who runs
00:34:46.480 Operation Underground
00:34:47.560 who,
00:34:48.720 or did run
00:34:49.480 Operation Underground
00:34:50.500 before he got
00:34:51.100 into a scandal
00:34:52.180 also was introduced
00:34:53.720 to me by
00:34:54.200 Marissa Stray.
00:34:54.840 It's just,
00:34:55.220 there's a lot
00:34:55.740 that in the back
00:34:56.300 of my mind
00:34:57.000 I'm going,
00:34:58.800 this is interesting.
00:34:59.720 A lot of these
00:35:00.200 characters that are
00:35:01.200 just kind of,
00:35:02.120 Tim Ballard is the one
00:35:03.100 that used to run
00:35:03.540 Operation Underground,
00:35:04.880 which is a charity
00:35:05.640 for sex trafficking.
00:35:07.820 And he's been featured
00:35:08.760 a lot in this story.
00:35:10.200 Characters that knew him,
00:35:11.680 person on the plane.
00:35:13.560 There's just,
00:35:14.720 a lot's happening here
00:35:15.620 is all I want to say.
00:35:16.580 And I find it to be odd.
00:35:18.400 Okay,
00:35:18.640 there's a picture
00:35:19.440 emerging here.
00:35:20.380 I am wondering
00:35:21.140 about these New Age pastors.
00:35:23.400 Like,
00:35:23.600 is that what everybody does
00:35:24.420 when they leave the military,
00:35:25.540 they start a church?
00:35:26.380 Or are we looking
00:35:27.040 at an operation?
00:35:28.220 That's the question
00:35:28.880 that I have.
00:35:30.240 And,
00:35:30.920 yeah,
00:35:31.980 I would,
00:35:32.380 I would,
00:35:32.740 if you are a part
00:35:33.300 of Calvary Chapel anywhere,
00:35:35.300 I would just wonder
00:35:35.820 if your pastor
00:35:36.360 just came from the military.
00:35:38.740 And if he,
00:35:39.340 or if he's from
00:35:39.660 a high-ranking military family,
00:35:40.980 did the military
00:35:41.600 execute an operation,
00:35:42.800 a psychological operation
00:35:43.840 on the American people
00:35:44.880 to get us to support
00:35:46.160 Christian Zionism
00:35:47.060 after World War II?
00:35:48.360 Kind of the question
00:35:49.240 that I think
00:35:49.640 is hanging in the air
00:35:50.360 right now.
00:35:52.320 After,
00:35:53.160 perhaps,
00:35:53.740 also the assassination
00:35:54.760 of JFK.
00:35:55.720 Like,
00:35:55.960 when he talked about
00:35:56.340 the military-industrial complex,
00:35:58.080 like,
00:35:58.280 how,
00:35:58.560 how industrial
00:35:59.320 did this,
00:35:59.860 how did this complex get?
00:36:01.400 Is it an industry
00:36:03.620 of churches?
00:36:04.700 That's what I'm,
00:36:05.480 that's what I'm thinking.
00:36:06.880 That's what it's looking
00:36:07.760 like to me.
00:36:08.880 And tomorrow,
00:36:09.800 we're going to get into
00:36:10.540 the characters involved
00:36:11.660 in TPUSA faith
00:36:12.760 and this random strand
00:36:14.960 of sex scandal,
00:36:17.140 sex and trafficking
00:36:18.020 and weapons scandal
00:36:19.300 that keeps happening.
00:36:21.080 Okay?
00:36:21.540 We're not going to not
00:36:22.520 look into turning point faith
00:36:24.280 because,
00:36:25.300 oh,
00:36:25.420 you're not allowed,
00:36:26.020 it's untouchable
00:36:26.800 all of a sudden
00:36:27.320 because Erica's
00:36:28.000 at the helm of it.
00:36:28.820 No.
00:36:29.120 If there's corruption
00:36:29.900 anywhere,
00:36:30.640 you have a right
00:36:31.820 to attack it,
00:36:33.020 especially if it comes
00:36:34.320 in the name of the Lord.
00:36:35.100 I will say that.
00:36:36.900 Switching gears here,
00:36:38.720 but sticking on the topic
00:36:39.860 of liars and losers,
00:36:42.220 Kash Patel,
00:36:43.540 he has to step down.
00:36:44.940 There's no other option here.
00:36:46.940 In case you missed it,
00:36:48.040 Kash Patel,
00:36:48.780 the director of the FBI
00:36:50.420 who represents America
00:36:51.520 on the world stage,
00:36:52.680 right?
00:36:53.080 We are already
00:36:53.860 not being taken
00:36:54.660 very seriously,
00:36:55.580 but Kash Patel
00:36:56.740 is catalyzing that dissent.
00:36:58.860 Okay?
00:36:59.100 He is catalyzing
00:37:00.760 that dissent
00:37:01.860 into absolute mockery.
00:37:04.280 He tweeted,
00:37:05.400 I told you about that
00:37:06.300 a couple of weeks ago,
00:37:07.820 leave my girlfriend alone
00:37:09.440 and we see you guys
00:37:10.720 and like,
00:37:11.320 she's my life partner.
00:37:12.960 Like,
00:37:13.100 you left your wife,
00:37:13.840 you've been with this girl
00:37:14.340 for like a year and a half,
00:37:15.280 calm down.
00:37:16.240 Okay?
00:37:16.420 Just calm down.
00:37:18.560 Like a teenager in love.
00:37:20.120 It's ridiculous.
00:37:21.800 Well,
00:37:22.000 now his girlfriend,
00:37:23.060 it turns out,
00:37:23.720 is suing Eliza Schaefer
00:37:25.220 and other content creators
00:37:26.580 for $5 million.
00:37:29.820 For $5 million.
00:37:31.480 For her hurt feelings,
00:37:33.040 okay?
00:37:33.600 Because she was called
00:37:35.400 a honeypot,
00:37:36.680 an Israeli honeypot.
00:37:37.980 And in some circumstances,
00:37:39.100 I want to be very clear,
00:37:40.820 they didn't even explicitly
00:37:41.700 call her a honeypot.
00:37:43.580 They just posted a picture.
00:37:44.880 That was a circumstance
00:37:45.500 in terms of Elijah Schaefer.
00:37:47.000 I should actually read
00:37:47.960 some parts of this lawsuit
00:37:49.480 so that you understand
00:37:50.620 that we are not
00:37:51.080 a serious nation anymore,
00:37:52.140 right?
00:37:52.560 We are not a serious nation
00:37:53.980 and it's important
00:37:54.580 that you come to that conclusion
00:37:56.320 quite quickly.
00:37:57.260 Okay?
00:37:58.360 Where are we?
00:38:00.300 So,
00:38:01.300 this is directly
00:38:02.660 from a lawsuit.
00:38:03.540 It says that
00:38:04.060 on September 14th,
00:38:05.320 2025,
00:38:06.800 an ex-user
00:38:07.500 that goes by Hen Mazig
00:38:09.600 published a lengthy
00:38:11.040 and detailed post
00:38:12.600 about the prominent role
00:38:14.460 of female Mossad agents
00:38:16.380 have played
00:38:17.040 in Israel's
00:38:17.760 sophisticated intelligence
00:38:18.980 efforts against Iran,
00:38:20.840 including
00:38:21.220 by seducing
00:38:22.640 top officials
00:38:23.540 and that
00:38:24.400 some of them
00:38:25.100 reportedly
00:38:25.760 seduced
00:38:26.520 high-ranking
00:38:27.460 enemy officials.
00:38:28.520 Now,
00:38:29.020 in response
00:38:29.520 to the comments
00:38:30.380 on that same day,
00:38:32.440 Elijah Schaefer
00:38:33.380 posted
00:38:34.440 a photo
00:38:35.940 of Alexis Wilkins,
00:38:38.160 that is her name,
00:38:39.580 and Patel,
00:38:40.520 right?
00:38:40.700 So,
00:38:40.880 this is the action,
00:38:41.460 this is what they're suing
00:38:42.400 over right here
00:38:43.900 on the internet.
00:38:45.560 LOL,
00:38:46.300 Elijah Schaefer
00:38:46.960 posts a photo
00:38:47.920 and the lawsuit
00:38:50.320 goes on
00:38:51.140 and says,
00:38:51.980 ever since
00:38:52.500 Kash Patel,
00:38:53.540 was appointed
00:38:54.340 as director
00:38:54.940 of the FBI
00:38:55.520 in February
00:38:56.080 of 2025,
00:38:57.520 the conspiratorial corners
00:38:59.020 of the internet
00:38:59.760 and social media
00:39:00.580 have been spreading
00:39:01.520 a false narrative
00:39:02.400 that Ms. Wilkins
00:39:03.680 is an Israeli
00:39:04.360 Mossad agent,
00:39:05.720 a spy,
00:39:06.540 or a quote-unquote
00:39:07.820 honeypot.
00:39:10.200 So,
00:39:11.100 here's the thing.
00:39:13.900 I've been around.
00:39:15.580 I've been around.
00:39:17.320 And there are
00:39:18.440 some rules to lawsuits.
00:39:20.180 If you have to sue
00:39:21.560 someone to prove,
00:39:23.120 as an example,
00:39:24.140 that you are a woman,
00:39:26.520 a la Brigitte McCrone,
00:39:27.680 it's because you're not one.
00:39:29.240 If you have to sue someone
00:39:31.280 to prove that your relationship
00:39:32.780 is really authentic
00:39:34.440 and real
00:39:35.320 and like love
00:39:36.420 from the heavens,
00:39:38.340 it probably isn't one.
00:39:40.120 I'm just saying
00:39:41.000 I've been around.
00:39:42.260 That's all I'm saying.
00:39:44.140 And I have been
00:39:45.400 the subject
00:39:45.960 of so many conspiracies
00:39:48.040 because of how
00:39:49.080 me and my husband met,
00:39:50.200 right?
00:39:50.600 People online,
00:39:51.480 people have done threads,
00:39:53.100 put in names
00:39:54.000 that were not even true.
00:39:54.920 I've read one thread
00:39:55.580 where they said
00:39:55.960 like a donor put me
00:39:56.980 and my husband
00:39:57.600 couldn't be further
00:39:58.360 from the truth.
00:39:59.140 I've never cared.
00:39:59.980 I just laugh at them
00:40:00.900 because it's just not true.
00:40:01.900 It's just none of it's true,
00:40:02.680 so I don't care.
00:40:03.680 The fact that
00:40:04.720 she filed this lawsuit,
00:40:06.500 of course,
00:40:07.020 means that she did this
00:40:07.800 with the blessing
00:40:08.560 of her quote-unquote
00:40:09.520 life partner,
00:40:10.340 Kash Patel.
00:40:11.000 He knew this was happening.
00:40:12.420 He did not stop her
00:40:13.660 from doing this.
00:40:15.040 Are they trying
00:40:15.680 to convince us
00:40:16.760 or is she trying
00:40:17.660 to convince him
00:40:18.340 or is he trying
00:40:19.100 to convince himself?
00:40:20.700 Okay?
00:40:21.440 And of course,
00:40:22.340 inevitably,
00:40:22.680 what happens
00:40:23.320 when you file these lawsuits
00:40:24.080 is people then get
00:40:24.840 interested in you
00:40:26.260 and there is something
00:40:27.880 called the Streisand effect.
00:40:28.940 Now, before the Streisand effect
00:40:30.120 happened,
00:40:30.600 I was already interested
00:40:31.660 because he's acting weird.
00:40:32.920 He's just acting
00:40:33.560 really weird right now,
00:40:34.740 Kash Patel.
00:40:35.820 And she might not be
00:40:36.940 a Mossad honeypot.
00:40:39.120 I don't know.
00:40:39.880 I've never made that claim.
00:40:40.640 There's literally
00:40:41.560 no evidence of that
00:40:42.500 other than people
00:40:44.040 saying she works
00:40:44.740 for Marissa Strait,
00:40:45.760 Prager U,
00:40:46.760 who, you know,
00:40:48.120 she's formerly
00:40:48.780 of the IDF intelligence unit.
00:40:50.660 I worked for Prager U.
00:40:52.040 I'm not a Mossad honeypot person,
00:40:53.660 so that's not evidence.
00:40:55.080 But there is evidence
00:40:56.180 that she comes
00:40:56.860 from a Freemason family
00:40:58.620 in California.
00:40:59.780 Like, Dad was
00:41:00.820 in the California Freemasons
00:41:02.400 and Grandpa
00:41:04.060 was pretty high up
00:41:05.000 in the California Freemasons.
00:41:06.680 And, you know,
00:41:08.660 Kash Patel's dropping
00:41:09.440 33 hours
00:41:10.400 like it means something.
00:41:12.720 That's actually more interesting
00:41:14.080 than the Mossad honeypot thing.
00:41:16.360 Mom works in aerospace.
00:41:18.180 We're not like,
00:41:18.720 she's not just like
00:41:19.260 some cutesy country singer
00:41:20.860 that has no connections.
00:41:22.700 Like, let's make that clear.
00:41:24.180 She's not,
00:41:24.560 she doesn't have no connections.
00:41:26.160 Letting you guys know that.
00:41:27.860 And I am so sick of the idea
00:41:30.060 that you're going to file
00:41:31.020 and bankrupt people
00:41:32.080 because you don't like
00:41:32.860 what's on the internet.
00:41:33.460 That's why this needs
00:41:35.420 to be exposed.
00:41:36.840 He should be flamed.
00:41:38.700 The punishment
00:41:39.980 for these sorts of things
00:41:40.980 is these people
00:41:41.500 should be shamed.
00:41:42.740 They should be absolutely shamed.
00:41:44.840 Out of public life forever.
00:41:46.560 If your solution
00:41:47.360 to somebody saying
00:41:48.620 something on the internet
00:41:49.340 is I'm going to bankrupt you,
00:41:50.880 especially something,
00:41:51.940 who cares?
00:41:52.400 You're a country singer.
00:41:53.100 Even if you were
00:41:53.820 a Mossad honeypot,
00:41:54.880 why do you care?
00:41:56.420 Who cares?
00:41:57.500 Like, if you do not know
00:41:59.200 how to deal with the internet,
00:42:00.640 get off of it.
00:42:01.660 Just get off of it.
00:42:02.720 It is optional.
00:42:03.760 You are not required
00:42:04.960 to be on X
00:42:06.840 to make videos for PragerU.
00:42:08.800 You are not required
00:42:09.620 to be on X
00:42:10.760 to sing the national anthem
00:42:11.960 for Turning Point USA.
00:42:13.340 Get off of the internet
00:42:14.740 if you do not have it within you
00:42:17.700 the courage to withstand
00:42:19.360 Elijah Schaefer making a joke, okay?
00:42:22.580 All of these people
00:42:23.180 have said things about me.
00:42:24.560 I have been mocked for everything
00:42:25.900 from the color of my skin
00:42:27.600 to who I work for
00:42:29.680 to you name it.
00:42:31.140 There's a joke out there
00:42:32.080 that's said about me, okay?
00:42:33.660 Or not even a joke.
00:42:34.820 People just being insulting.
00:42:35.960 I wake up,
00:42:36.760 I'm called the N-word.
00:42:37.800 Big deal.
00:42:38.840 The internet is optional,
00:42:41.020 Alexis Wilkins.
00:42:41.940 It's optional,
00:42:43.100 Kash Patel.
00:42:43.900 This lawsuit is pathetic.
00:42:45.140 You should be forced to step aside.
00:42:46.480 But, you know,
00:42:47.500 it's probably not going to happen
00:42:48.720 because a lot of things
00:42:49.420 that are going on
00:42:49.820 in this administration
00:42:50.360 have been embarrassing.
00:42:51.620 And, yeah,
00:42:52.420 we're hunting down kids
00:42:53.600 on college campuses
00:42:54.480 that offend Jewish people.
00:42:56.200 So, like,
00:42:56.560 I guess we're going to,
00:42:57.740 we're stuck with Kash Patel.
00:42:58.880 That's all I'm saying.
00:43:00.060 Anyways,
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00:44:54.980 Okay,
00:44:55.580 reading the top comment
00:44:56.460 from our last episode,
00:44:57.780 Nick Junes wrote,
00:44:58.880 as a registered Democrat,
00:45:00.040 I think who killed
00:45:01.060 Charlie Kirk
00:45:01.640 is one of the most important
00:45:02.660 questions of our time.
00:45:04.600 I want to know
00:45:05.280 who killed Charlie Kirk
00:45:06.280 and what's in the Epstein files.
00:45:08.060 I think the same people
00:45:09.060 are behind
00:45:09.500 all of the greatest problems
00:45:10.580 in the last 100 years.
00:45:11.840 It's the source
00:45:12.280 of all the corruption,
00:45:13.300 wars,
00:45:13.560 and even much of the division
00:45:14.500 in our own country.
00:45:16.360 Candace is absolutely
00:45:17.100 doing the Lord's work,
00:45:17.940 and I'm not even
00:45:18.920 very religious.
00:45:20.060 I could not agree
00:45:20.980 more with you.
00:45:21.600 It's actually
00:45:22.400 the most important thing.
00:45:23.420 That's why I said
00:45:23.880 I'm not even voting
00:45:24.480 until I saw this
00:45:25.340 because it is the undoing
00:45:26.760 of everything.
00:45:27.320 It's like we've just all
00:45:28.240 just been veils
00:45:29.340 and we just had not realized
00:45:30.520 that we're now piercing through
00:45:31.520 and we're realizing
00:45:32.180 that these monsters
00:45:33.400 rule over us.
00:45:34.640 Also,
00:45:34.920 I see somebody
00:45:35.360 in the live chat
00:45:36.420 on YouTube wrote,
00:45:37.540 it looks like Mikey McCoy
00:45:38.620 went to Oaks Christian
00:45:39.700 in Thousand Oaks.
00:45:40.780 That is correct
00:45:41.840 and the part that you're missing
00:45:43.260 is that Rob McCoy
00:45:45.120 ran that school.
00:45:46.220 He ran Little Oaks.
00:45:47.060 It's like a boarding school,
00:45:48.220 Little Oaks.
00:45:49.100 I found that out.
00:45:50.800 I guess Rob McCoy,
00:45:51.760 he's actually even more amazing.
00:45:52.980 He's had so many hats.
00:45:54.460 Calvary Chapel
00:45:55.240 outright purchased,
00:45:57.240 for whatever reason,
00:45:58.820 outright purchased
00:45:59.900 the Christian Academy
00:46:01.800 in 2009,
00:46:04.260 I believe it was.
00:46:04.840 I saw an article about it
00:46:05.700 because the teachers
00:46:06.640 were suing Rob
00:46:07.840 because he fired them
00:46:09.380 and then Rob
00:46:10.000 was suing them
00:46:10.800 saying,
00:46:11.280 well,
00:46:11.400 I fired you
00:46:12.120 because you weren't
00:46:12.800 Christian enough
00:46:13.520 and you didn't come
00:46:14.520 to church on Sundays.
00:46:15.560 It was his whole thing
00:46:16.460 and he filed in federal court
00:46:18.260 and the lawsuit
00:46:20.340 didn't go through.
00:46:21.680 I mean,
00:46:21.960 he didn't win the lawsuit.
00:46:23.180 I don't know who won the lawsuit.
00:46:24.180 I didn't really get that far into it.
00:46:25.820 But yeah,
00:46:26.640 I'm interested
00:46:27.320 in his interest
00:46:29.000 in this Christian school.
00:46:30.760 Anyway,
00:46:31.040 and like I said,
00:46:31.600 I want to know
00:46:32.040 who went to school
00:46:33.260 with Mikey
00:46:33.820 and the Erickson brothers.
00:46:37.540 Other comments.
00:46:38.600 We have Angie.
00:46:40.240 We need Go Max merch.
00:46:42.260 Team Candice for life.
00:46:43.440 Honestly,
00:46:43.920 that's actually a great idea
00:46:45.020 because we are going Max now.
00:46:46.500 We are going Max.
00:46:47.740 I love that.
00:46:48.200 I love that he said Go Max.
00:46:49.100 It's such a Charlie thing to say.
00:46:50.600 Brittany Watson writes,
00:46:51.680 the Charlie Kirk betrayal
00:46:52.700 and assassination
00:46:53.300 is shaping up
00:46:54.080 to be the scandal
00:46:54.900 of our lifetime
00:46:56.160 and you are leading
00:46:57.380 the charge of investigating
00:46:58.560 and question asking.
00:47:00.280 The world will owe you
00:47:01.020 a debt of gratitude
00:47:01.720 soon and very soon.
00:47:03.060 Thanks for all.
00:47:05.000 I totally agree
00:47:07.400 that this is a scandal.
00:47:08.400 of our lifetime
00:47:09.100 and they're just trying
00:47:10.960 to gaslight us
00:47:11.580 to pretend like
00:47:12.100 their behavior is normal,
00:47:13.760 using every emotionally
00:47:15.240 manipulative tactic
00:47:16.320 to make us not look further.
00:47:18.720 Like, oh,
00:47:19.140 what about these people?
00:47:20.180 They're hurting.
00:47:20.740 They're grieving.
00:47:21.480 Keep the same effing energy
00:47:23.180 you had when you were like,
00:47:24.400 let's move on.
00:47:25.200 Let's raise money.
00:47:26.040 Like, stop acting
00:47:27.080 like you were so aggrieved.
00:47:28.280 Like, if you can just move on
00:47:30.140 and say, like,
00:47:30.940 I'm going to be the new person.
00:47:31.860 I'm going to do speeches.
00:47:33.240 I, you know,
00:47:33.520 I'm going to carry on
00:47:34.440 and I'm speaking obviously here
00:47:36.760 about Rob McCoy
00:47:37.640 and Mikey McCoy.
00:47:38.500 Then you don't get to flip
00:47:39.240 and go, oh,
00:47:39.640 these people,
00:47:40.200 these people are too aggrieved.
00:47:41.340 It doesn't work for me.
00:47:42.320 Okay?
00:47:42.600 It doesn't work for me.
00:47:43.800 I feel like Taylor Lorenz,
00:47:45.520 like, once I came back
00:47:46.520 from Wyoming,
00:47:47.360 I then started paying attention
00:47:48.600 to everyone's behavior
00:47:49.500 and I was like,
00:47:50.460 why would I feel like
00:47:51.140 I was the only one grieving?
00:47:52.160 Like, what's up
00:47:52.680 with the Turning Point employees?
00:47:54.260 Hey?
00:47:54.780 And by the way,
00:47:55.940 obviously when I say, like,
00:47:57.180 everyone at Turning Point,
00:47:58.200 I clearly do not mean
00:47:59.140 every single person
00:48:00.040 at Turning Point
00:48:00.520 because all of these leaks
00:48:01.480 are coming from
00:48:02.180 people that are at Turning Point.
00:48:03.200 So there are amazing people
00:48:04.860 who loved Charlie,
00:48:06.260 who hate the corruption
00:48:07.380 that's happening right now,
00:48:08.500 who sense that everything
00:48:09.640 is being pushed under the rug,
00:48:11.060 who have intimately let me know
00:48:13.040 the things that the Erickson brothers
00:48:14.380 are doing and saying
00:48:15.580 and texting
00:48:16.420 and I just have a file
00:48:18.400 of all of it
00:48:18.920 because of people
00:48:19.580 at Turning Point USA
00:48:20.300 and they don't care.
00:48:22.340 They want nothing
00:48:23.100 but the truth
00:48:24.220 and they know
00:48:24.860 they're not getting it,
00:48:25.700 which is problematic.
00:48:27.240 Brittany Watson,
00:48:28.440 I'm sorry,
00:48:29.040 Kamaya writes,
00:48:29.780 Candice is homeschooling
00:48:31.280 the internet
00:48:31.960 and homeschooling
00:48:33.280 my children in the morning,
00:48:34.260 which has been
00:48:34.640 an absolute blast.
00:48:35.980 Such a great blessing
00:48:37.000 to add that to my day.
00:48:38.540 It puts me in a good mood
00:48:39.360 every day
00:48:39.880 and Charlie always said
00:48:41.400 be a happy warrior
00:48:42.200 so I am a happy warrior.
00:48:44.420 The original Poliwog writes,
00:48:46.400 was that like
00:48:46.780 Binyabinyapoliewog?
00:48:48.340 Look here, please,
00:48:49.580 what does your opening song say?
00:48:52.580 That is from a Kanye song.
00:48:54.440 I hope he's bright
00:48:55.700 and brave and strong.
00:48:56.680 It's, I guess,
00:48:57.220 hitting differently.
00:48:58.700 Um, yeah,
00:49:00.180 it's a Kanye song
00:49:01.400 and it's a sample from,
00:49:03.540 it's called Stars.
00:49:04.840 The beginning of it
00:49:05.480 is called Stars.
00:49:07.520 Lots of comments saying
00:49:09.460 Defcon 3, not death.
00:49:11.260 That was a Kanye joke.
00:49:12.860 Remember notoriously,
00:49:13.740 Kanye tweeted this
00:49:14.920 and everyone freaked out
00:49:17.260 because he wrote death.
00:49:18.480 He meant Defcon 3
00:49:19.880 because it's a defensive position.
00:49:21.740 I'm a bit sleepy tonight,
00:49:23.060 but when I wake up,
00:49:24.200 I'm going Defcon 3
00:49:25.820 on some Jewish people.
00:49:27.620 The funny thing is,
00:49:28.500 I actually can't be anti-Semitic
00:49:30.100 because black people
00:49:31.080 are actually Jew also.
00:49:33.100 You guys have toyed with me
00:49:34.320 and tried to blackball anyone
00:49:36.280 who ever opposes your agenda.
00:49:38.880 That tweet is hitting
00:49:40.040 differently today, man.
00:49:42.680 Pull it back up.
00:49:43.480 That tweet is hitting
00:49:44.940 differently today.
00:49:46.340 I got blackballed
00:49:47.680 because I opposed
00:49:48.940 the Israeli agenda.
00:49:50.700 I think he was talking about
00:49:52.000 some Zionists
00:49:53.440 in Hollywood
00:49:54.780 and he did
00:49:56.340 mean to say
00:49:57.940 Defcon 3,
00:49:58.900 but they pretended
00:49:59.480 like he was going
00:50:02.140 to literally
00:50:02.760 go around Hollywood
00:50:03.980 and start murdering
00:50:05.140 Jewish people
00:50:05.620 and what he was saying
00:50:06.300 was he was tired
00:50:06.980 of people
00:50:07.400 that were trying
00:50:07.960 to compel him
00:50:08.640 to say and do
00:50:09.260 certain things
00:50:09.960 who happened
00:50:11.040 to be Jewish
00:50:11.940 and so we were
00:50:12.880 being funny.
00:50:14.040 We know that it's
00:50:14.560 Defcon 3.
00:50:15.180 We were just doing
00:50:15.660 a throwback to Kanye.
00:50:16.840 I should probably
00:50:17.460 put a Kanye photo
00:50:18.200 in there.
00:50:20.040 Next comment
00:50:20.820 is from
00:50:22.740 Slow Akla
00:50:24.320 writes,
00:50:25.220 Thank you,
00:50:25.580 Candice,
00:50:25.800 so much.
00:50:26.120 We are praying for you.
00:50:27.320 Thank you so much
00:50:28.100 for that contribution.
00:50:30.620 SGT Socks write,
00:50:31.700 Christ is king.
00:50:32.460 I am so proud of you,
00:50:33.380 Candice and Ian.
00:50:34.320 God bless and let Tucker know
00:50:35.740 I'm carrying
00:50:37.120 on camel regulars
00:50:39.060 non-filtered.
00:50:40.180 What's that?
00:50:43.320 A cigarettes,
00:50:44.500 camel regulars.
00:50:45.380 Yeah,
00:50:45.600 I've never smoked
00:50:47.120 cigarettes and stuff
00:50:48.340 like that,
00:50:48.680 so I don't know
00:50:49.000 anything about that.
00:50:49.540 I'm ignorant.
00:50:50.000 I'm sorry,
00:50:50.320 you guys.
00:50:52.120 Tobacco,
00:50:52.840 something.
00:50:53.240 Okay,
00:50:53.520 it's an inside joke.
00:50:54.500 I'm in on it.
00:50:55.460 Don't be dumb,
00:50:56.100 writes,
00:50:56.340 Israel isn't even
00:50:57.080 our ally.
00:50:57.700 No treaty to help
00:50:58.740 if attacked.
00:50:59.380 Didn't spot one IDF
00:51:00.580 soldier during my time
00:51:01.420 in Iraq or Afghanistan.
00:51:02.480 Yeah,
00:51:02.600 they don't have enough
00:51:03.100 bodies.
00:51:03.540 They need us.
00:51:04.380 So they play
00:51:05.020 psychological games
00:51:05.740 with us so that
00:51:06.780 we convince our sons
00:51:08.280 to go die for them.
00:51:09.540 They get land.
00:51:10.660 They get free insurance.
00:51:11.840 They get free health care.
00:51:12.760 They get all of these
00:51:14.000 welfare benefits.
00:51:15.440 And we get
00:51:16.180 a country
00:51:17.940 that is just
00:51:18.640 in full deterioration.
00:51:20.440 We get called
00:51:21.260 anti-Semitic.
00:51:22.260 If you're white,
00:51:23.200 you're told it's your fault.
00:51:24.380 It's your problem.
00:51:27.020 If you're black,
00:51:28.200 you're told
00:51:28.860 basically that you
00:51:29.940 should be aspiring
00:51:30.760 towards Ebonics
00:51:31.920 and hip-hop culture
00:51:33.000 and pretty much
00:51:34.520 you're set up
00:51:34.860 on the pipeline
00:51:35.500 to prison pretty young.
00:51:37.560 And both sides
00:51:38.920 are told,
00:51:39.380 black and white people
00:51:40.200 are told you're not
00:51:41.040 allowed to say
00:51:41.800 anything bad about Israel.
00:51:42.780 We ruin your life.
00:51:44.040 That's the reality.
00:51:44.760 That's our nation.
00:51:45.280 And we war with each other,
00:51:46.300 black and white people.
00:51:47.960 And Zionists
00:51:49.980 have so much power
00:51:51.300 in media.
00:51:51.900 And as we are learning,
00:51:53.000 the churches,
00:51:54.060 the Christian churches.
00:51:55.240 I mean,
00:51:55.400 I don't understand
00:51:55.800 how this happened
00:51:56.460 while also getting
00:51:57.620 to always say
00:51:58.260 that they are the victims.
00:51:59.440 So I want to make that clear.
00:52:00.560 They are the victims
00:52:01.120 of everything always.
00:52:03.260 Don't question it.
00:52:04.300 Trust the science.
00:52:05.300 Ashley Blair writes,
00:52:06.160 hello, Candace.
00:52:06.700 I'm Bailey
00:52:07.380 and I've been a fan
00:52:08.860 of your show
00:52:09.340 since you were on
00:52:09.860 The Daily Wire.
00:52:10.580 Foreign Muslim immigrants
00:52:11.440 are swarming into Europe,
00:52:12.700 Australia, Canada,
00:52:13.320 and the U.S.
00:52:13.920 And I wanted to see
00:52:14.480 if you had an opinion
00:52:15.140 on Israel's involvement
00:52:15.960 in that.
00:52:16.780 Yeah.
00:52:17.240 Well, here's the thing.
00:52:18.500 Israel sends us in
00:52:19.420 to smash the countries
00:52:20.600 that they live in.
00:52:21.720 They create the refugee crisis
00:52:23.180 and then people complain
00:52:25.460 about how these people
00:52:26.560 like have nowhere to go.
00:52:28.060 I can't believe
00:52:28.820 that Israel
00:52:29.420 is taking over Syria
00:52:31.100 and now there's
00:52:31.940 all these Syrian refugees.
00:52:33.420 I can't believe Israel.
00:52:34.560 It's just they're
00:52:34.920 expanding their borders
00:52:35.920 and they're pushing
00:52:37.160 these people
00:52:37.840 into countries
00:52:38.780 they don't want to be in.
00:52:39.480 Do you think
00:52:40.000 that the Palestinians
00:52:40.940 don't want to stay
00:52:41.660 in Gaza
00:52:42.100 where they've been?
00:52:43.420 Of course they do.
00:52:44.420 But look what's happening.
00:52:45.360 Trump needs a casino, right?
00:52:47.620 Jared's doing deals.
00:52:48.720 They want beachfront properties.
00:52:50.360 They're invested in this.
00:52:51.900 And so then
00:52:52.260 they're going to tell you
00:52:53.220 because we're always
00:52:54.020 the fools, right?
00:52:55.260 Like we're arguing
00:52:56.180 that you need to go
00:52:57.380 fight the Muslim people
00:52:58.160 in your community.
00:52:59.020 They're going to establish
00:52:59.740 Sharia law.
00:53:00.380 That's the low hanging fruit.
00:53:01.600 They're going to establish
00:53:02.160 Sharia law.
00:53:03.140 Well, maybe they could have
00:53:03.980 kept the Sharia law
00:53:04.880 in their own countries
00:53:05.640 if we didn't kill
00:53:06.280 a million of them
00:53:07.200 like just in like
00:53:08.120 one simple setting
00:53:09.100 like we did in the Iraq war.
00:53:10.940 Right?
00:53:11.800 The Iraq war.
00:53:12.540 We just killed like
00:53:13.060 a million Iraqi civilians
00:53:15.040 by the way.
00:53:16.240 Okay?
00:53:16.460 Just civilians
00:53:17.280 as in like you and me.
00:53:18.620 Nothing to do with the war.
00:53:20.160 We did that.
00:53:21.340 And who did we do that for?
00:53:23.320 Do you think
00:53:23.860 it was because
00:53:24.940 we were looking
00:53:26.440 for weapons
00:53:26.860 of mass destruction?
00:53:28.300 That's what they always say.
00:53:29.300 That's why they're trying
00:53:30.340 right now.
00:53:31.540 They want Iran.
00:53:32.680 They want to force
00:53:33.860 this change of power
00:53:34.860 in Iran.
00:53:35.720 Yeah, that's kind of
00:53:36.600 the repeat thing.
00:53:37.340 We're spreading democracy.
00:53:38.660 For who?
00:53:39.700 No, we are expanding
00:53:41.360 Israel's borders
00:53:42.120 and we are rendering
00:53:43.480 everybody around Israel weak.
00:53:45.080 That's what the picture
00:53:45.800 looks like.
00:53:46.360 Your son should not be
00:53:47.100 signing up for the military
00:53:47.900 until it's fixed.
00:53:49.000 That's my personal opinion.
00:53:50.800 Texas Toast writes,
00:53:51.660 I'm curious if the government
00:53:52.540 is so sloppy
00:53:53.220 with all their inside jobs
00:53:54.400 because they'll off
00:53:55.840 or call people crazy
00:53:56.820 for pointing out
00:53:57.580 the obvious
00:53:58.300 that they are doing.
00:53:59.340 It is a shame.
00:54:00.400 I love your show.
00:54:01.840 I think that
00:54:02.600 they're like hamsters
00:54:03.360 on a wheel.
00:54:03.760 It's always worked.
00:54:04.640 It's worked for so long.
00:54:05.660 We all took it.
00:54:07.520 We accepted it.
00:54:08.120 Like I said,
00:54:08.680 I count myself among it.
00:54:09.700 I was left or right.
00:54:11.000 I believed in the paradigm.
00:54:12.080 I thought this person
00:54:12.760 would fix things.
00:54:13.520 I hated people on the left.
00:54:15.180 I started on the left
00:54:16.800 like thinking more liberally
00:54:18.440 and then I hated people
00:54:19.560 on the left
00:54:20.320 and I never looked up.
00:54:22.400 Right?
00:54:22.860 So it's worked forever
00:54:23.740 and I don't think they know
00:54:24.600 how to do something new.
00:54:26.100 And so now they're going
00:54:26.780 to try to pass speech laws.
00:54:28.340 And if you actually look
00:54:29.260 at the history
00:54:29.600 of passing speech laws,
00:54:30.760 it does seem like
00:54:32.420 a general thing
00:54:33.820 that Zionists like to do
00:54:35.100 so that they can
00:54:36.220 rewrite history.
00:54:37.180 You want me to believe
00:54:38.420 the history
00:54:39.380 of what you're telling us
00:54:41.180 about World War II
00:54:42.040 when you can't even tell us
00:54:44.240 the truth about
00:54:44.900 who Charlie Kirk was
00:54:45.980 like five seconds ago?
00:54:47.660 We're supposed to believe
00:54:48.620 you're telling,
00:54:49.040 but totally like trust you
00:54:50.320 on what you're telling us
00:54:51.080 about 1948
00:54:51.920 and how Israel
00:54:52.720 became a nation,
00:54:53.520 but you can't even
00:54:54.720 tell the truth about
00:54:55.480 like what Charlie Kirk
00:54:57.140 was going through
00:54:57.680 five minutes ago?
00:54:58.760 Get out of my face.
00:55:00.960 Okay?
00:55:01.320 Let me stop.
00:55:01.940 I'm going into overtime here
00:55:02.800 and I'm going to get in trouble.
00:55:03.820 This is when I get in trouble,
00:55:04.660 whenever we're in the OT.
00:55:05.900 I got to stop.
00:55:06.560 Okay?
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00:55:45.140 I saw some of you guys
00:55:46.440 asking about
00:55:46.940 the Egyptian planes.
00:55:47.980 Yep,
00:55:48.360 we have that for you.
00:55:49.440 We're in for a week.
00:55:50.620 Tomorrow,
00:55:50.980 we're going to talk
00:55:51.380 a bit more about
00:55:52.000 the planes
00:55:52.860 and something
00:55:53.680 that I learned
00:55:54.620 about the planes,
00:55:55.240 which is incredibly interesting.
00:55:56.780 And then on Friday,
00:55:57.380 we are going to be
00:55:58.540 speaking about
00:55:59.540 Turning Point USA financials.
00:56:01.240 So keep it locked here.
00:56:02.800 We will see you guys tomorrow.