Candace Owens - November 11, 2025


Why Is Everyone Crashing Out Over The Charlie Kirk Investigation？ ｜ Candace Ep 262


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Candace Owens reveals who she believes is the most likely suspect in the murder of Charlie Kirk and why she thinks it's connected to the FBI seizing security footage from the hospital where he was taken after being shot and why they are now on the hunt for the shooter.

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00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, happy Monday. And is everybody okay? I just want to check in to see if everybody's feeling okay, because there are a lot of people online who are coming undone. What is it about the Charlie Kirk investigation? What is it about Charlie Kirk's assassination that is causing so much panic?
00:00:22.380 Like, they're saying I faked the text messages again, the ones I showed regarding Ben Shapiro. They got AI analysis. These are fake. They're sending experts, quote unquote experts out to diagnose me at my show. And they've decided we're a cult. Okay. Over the weekend, Grok, literally the AI robot crashed out. He crashed out. He couldn't keep up with the lies about me.
00:00:47.360 And so then he stated, the robot on top of a trend, that Candace Owens has accused Marcus Hale of murdering Charlie Kirk this past October. I don't know what's going on. I'm just going to say that it's kind of weird how the only people that seem to believe the Fed story are Zionists.
00:01:07.220 And they demand that we accept the Fed story. And their panic is making me think that we're getting closer to something and that something is pretty big. And it's going to imply a lot of people. I don't know. Today, I'm going to tell you guys about a particular person who is connected to Charlie Kirk and January 6th. So welcome back to Candace.
00:01:37.220 Okay, so something that I want to say right at the top here before we get further into the Charlie Kirk story and speaking about January 6th and how somehow that's connected.
00:01:54.400 There's something I learned that's bothering me. I'm just going to put it out there, see if it bothers you as well. But I learned via tips that the Feds immediately seized the footage at Timpanogos Hospital.
00:02:10.640 Okay, Timpanogos Hospital. Remember, this is the hospital that it was quite strange that they moved to take Charlie to because it was further and also less equipped than UV Hospital.
00:02:21.500 Like it was like UV was a trauma one and Timpanogos was trauma three. And a bunch of people said very strange that they took him here. And then it got strange because we started hearing from other people that he was definitely at UV Hospital. It was very weird.
00:02:35.500 Anyways, I would like to add to that by saying that on the day that Charlie was shot, for whatever reason, you know, Kash Patel injects himself into it. The Feds seized all of the footage at the hospital that Charlie was brought to at Timpanogos. That doesn't make sense to me.
00:02:51.500 Nothing makes sense to me in this whole story. So this is just kind of the icing on, you know, on the top here, not even the icing on the top. But why would they move to seize that footage? How is that going to help their investigation? What's happening inside of Timpanogos? How is that going to help their investigation? Their immediate boots on the ground investigation into who shot Charlie Kirk?
00:03:12.460 They're trying. They're on a manhunt. Why are they going, OK, let's at first grab the footage at Timpanogos. Does that make sense?
00:03:18.900 Were you worried? Did a nurse call 911 and say, oh, a guy just ran in here with a gun and you need to seize the footage because that's going to help you track him down?
00:03:27.780 If that didn't happen, why are you seizing that footage? I don't know. With everything that is going on and I would say almost the lack of information that we have at Timpanogos, not a single person who captured them pulling up.
00:03:41.860 Nothing, despite the fact that there were news cameras outside waiting, oddly from like a New York news channel.
00:03:48.780 We have not seen anything regarding that we can build in competently on our timeline that would let us know what time in particular Charlie arrived at the hospital.
00:03:59.040 And I feel like something's amiss if the feds moved to grab the footage inside of the hospital immediately and outside of the hospital immediately.
00:04:07.040 So just putting it out there. If you maybe were somebody who has footage and saw that black SUV pull up at the hospital, please get that to us at moretipsatcandisowens.com because it's starting to bother me.
00:04:19.960 Something there is starting to feel amiss. Everything's amiss.
00:04:23.600 Anyway, there also happens to be another interesting constellation that's building here because, as I said at the top, there is something about this investigation into Charlie Kirk and who assassinated him that is causing extremely powerful people to panic.
00:04:43.860 A network of powerful people. And by powerful people, I mean the feds, okay?
00:04:51.060 I don't know about you, but I'm starting to wonder if every major publicly traumatizing event may have actually just been organized by the feds.
00:05:01.700 And rather than blaming themselves, the strategy that they always employ is to get out a narrative, a sloppy narrative, like we saw this time with the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:05:11.900 That is one thing that I will say is so amazing.
00:05:15.040 The only thing that has been amazing about the Charlie Kirk assassination is that it has brought the left and the right together.
00:05:20.440 And what I mean by that is typically we're ready to take the fed slop.
00:05:24.460 This time it was the messages, obviously, and they're like, oh, my dad's MAGA.
00:05:30.300 He just, he was MAGA-ing too hard.
00:05:32.420 And the left was supposed to go, see, it's his dad's fault. MAGA's bad.
00:05:36.940 And then the right was supposed to go, look, he trans person bad. 1.00
00:05:41.660 This time, though, we all went, this is too evil. 0.65
00:05:45.100 It feels orchestrated.
00:05:46.440 And do you guys always do this?
00:05:48.140 Like, is this what you guys do?
00:05:49.460 That definitely, now that I'm reflecting and I am including myself in this, that was kind of my old vibe, left or right.
00:05:57.240 That was definitely the vibe of January 6th, right?
00:06:00.740 We all took the bait.
00:06:01.940 Just own it.
00:06:02.660 Okay?
00:06:03.020 If you're a lefty, own it.
00:06:04.220 You were like, MAGA is bad.
00:06:05.700 If you're on the right, own it.
00:06:06.820 We were like, the left is bad.
00:06:08.640 They're overthrowing an election.
00:06:10.120 We did it.
00:06:11.520 On January 6th, 2020, I can tell you where I was.
00:06:14.080 I was nine months pregnant, my first child, and I was super MAGA at this time.
00:06:19.140 I would have definitively gone to this soft, the steel rally, but I was just too pregnant to go.
00:06:25.800 And I was living in D.C., so it was just down the street from me.
00:06:28.420 And I reflect on that and I think, wow, that saved me because I could have been swept up in what happened on January 6th.
00:06:34.220 I could have been there.
00:06:35.080 We all know how the story goes.
00:06:37.180 Trump hosts this speech.
00:06:39.140 He has this rally.
00:06:40.540 And then afterward, people, quote unquote, storm the Capitol, break through the barriers, and there's an insurrection.
00:06:47.480 And CNN is showing these clips in the footage.
00:06:50.100 And it's funny for me especially because I was right up the road as a resident of D.C., literally living there.
00:06:56.720 And I was thinking how strange it was.
00:06:59.260 I'm sitting on the couch with my husband and we start getting all these phone calls from my sisters and family members asking if we're okay.
00:07:04.320 And we didn't have the news on and we're like, yeah, we're okay.
00:07:07.240 So strange that you're calling.
00:07:08.480 We don't even hear any noise.
00:07:09.640 And it was actually the first time that there was peace in D.C., meaning it was the summer of BLM riots. 0.77
00:07:15.040 So it was strange that we never got called when people's cars were getting smashed and things were being burned to the ground.
00:07:19.800 But suddenly we were getting phone calls because the media was there, you know, right there.
00:07:24.880 MAG has gone too far.
00:07:26.220 And they were showing all this footage and it was out of place, right?
00:07:29.580 Now, I knew instantly as a D.C. resident that the feds were involved because of the pipe bombs.
00:07:36.780 That was it.
00:07:37.300 I knew they were involved when I heard that pipe bombs were mysteriously dropped off the night before at the DNC headquarters, RNC headquarters.
00:07:48.360 And we just don't know who did that because I live there and there it's I mean, it's it's the capital.
00:07:55.000 So every square inch, there's a camera.
00:07:57.360 You just can't do that.
00:07:58.380 You can't just get away from being a couple of blocks away from the White House and dropping off pipe bombs.
00:08:03.480 Right.
00:08:03.700 Anyways, this weekend, after five long years, finally, the person and I'll say allegedly because I guess we're going to have to wait for the feds to dispute this.
00:08:14.920 But the person responsible for dropping off those pipe bombs was revealed to be a fed.
00:08:21.100 More specifically, a 31 year old woman and a United States Capitol police officer named Shawnee Ray Kirkuf.
00:08:28.960 Right.
00:08:29.460 A man named a reporter named Steve Baker, which deserves all of the credit on this amazing discovery.
00:08:35.380 And I'm going to let you listen to Glenn Beck, who is interviewing Steve Baker to tell you about how he came across this footage and how that went down.
00:08:43.980 When I stumbled on what I stumbled on and because, as I said, I've been pulling these threads for years and I pulled one last Wednesday, a week, two weeks ago today, rather.
00:08:56.040 And when I pulled this thread.
00:08:59.460 I was so shocked by what I saw.
00:09:02.680 I immediately took it to a source in one of the most important, highest level investigative federal agencies in the country.
00:09:12.160 I immediately took it to our sources there and I said, you have to see this.
00:09:18.280 After they looked at it for about two hours, the response that I got back was, holy F.
00:09:28.600 And then the follow up response was.
00:09:32.800 He's one of us.
00:09:34.380 And when you find out the position, I mean, this is going to lead, it's not just this one person.
00:09:46.280 This now will implicate so many people at the highest levels that had to have known because of what happened after January 6th.
00:10:00.200 I mean, it's it's this I mean, how big does this net get?
00:10:06.780 How big does this net get?
00:10:08.800 I'm feeling this way about the Charlie Kirk investigation.
00:10:11.580 A lot of people are going to get swept up in this investigation.
00:10:14.780 Perhaps the same people that are going to get swept up in the January 6th.
00:10:18.220 And it's not going to be this left or right story.
00:10:20.460 Right now, much more is going to come out.
00:10:22.640 I'm not here to cover all of January 6th and what they have been unpacking.
00:10:27.300 More will come out in the coming days.
00:10:28.600 What we do know is, like I said, this was a five year investigation.
00:10:31.580 It involved forensic analysis.
00:10:34.080 A CIA spokeswoman, Liz Lyon, stated that Shawnee Kirkhoff, the alleged person who dropped off these pipe bombs, worked in campus, Capitol Police, campus security.
00:10:44.380 She lives in Alexandria, Virginia.
00:10:46.060 She is apparently now under the watch of law enforcement officers because the Blaze News editor in chief decided to pull up to her house to just kind of see if any action was happening at her home.
00:10:57.960 And then he instantly got stopped by local police before they allowed him to leave.
00:11:02.560 Now, surprise, surprise.
00:11:04.560 I think it's always the feds and we might be being ruled by criminals like, I don't know, Jeffrey Epstein, who?
00:11:12.460 Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
00:11:14.640 We're still talking about Jeffrey Epstein Trumpy.
00:11:18.280 Now, if we are allowed to follow this idea that the feds are behind major politically divisive events, then we have to ask ourselves who exactly was behind organizing the Stop the Steal rally event itself.
00:11:31.360 And interestingly enough, on the quote unquote Republican side, Christian Zionist pastors were heavily involved in not just influencing the public, right, understanding right away, telling the public, the Republicans that we had to fight for justice.
00:11:48.920 They went out immediately following the following the election results.
00:11:53.400 One person was Lance Walno.
00:11:56.260 OK, I want you to remember this guy's name, Lance Walno.
00:11:58.980 Immediately, just three days after the election of 2020, on November 6th, he publishes this onto his Facebook page.
00:12:05.740 OK, it says we're going to expose the fraud and stop the steal.
00:12:11.280 The Lord, our God, is with us and we were built for this battle.
00:12:15.600 Be strong and courageous.
00:12:16.760 So that's three days after he's saying stop the steal.
00:12:18.940 Be strong, be strong, be courageous.
00:12:21.340 And Lance, who is a charismatic preacher, wasn't the only charismatic preacher or pastor that instantly threw their weight behind, quote unquote, stopping the steal.
00:12:31.860 Actually, four out of the six protest permits that were issued on January 6th were issued to independent charismatic Christian groups.
00:12:43.320 OK, 15 of these pastors and leaders surrounded Trump at the White House leading up to the January 6th Stop the Steal rally, telling him that the war was now spiritual.
00:12:56.340 So they're in his ear.
00:12:57.540 This is spiritual.
00:12:58.220 This is what you have to do, Mr. President.
00:13:01.060 OK, there's an article about that.
00:13:03.020 The new apostolic reformation drove the January 6th riots.
00:13:08.760 So why was it overlooked by the House Select Committee, this person asks.
00:13:12.500 OK, NAR, NAR, I brought this up to you before.
00:13:15.960 Lance Wallnau is in this article.
00:13:18.160 So is Sean Foyt.
00:13:20.020 Now you're thinking these names might sound familiar.
00:13:23.000 Certainly, Sean Foyt, I brought him up to you regarding TPUS faith, who started to lead these events that they were having.
00:13:30.720 So who is Lance Wallnau?
00:13:32.260 Well, he is one of these NAR preachers, like I said, who came up with their seven mountain mandates.
00:13:39.320 OK, Charlie began to be.
00:13:42.560 Get become very interested in the seven mountain mandate.
00:13:44.900 I would say like he became mesmerized by the seven mountain mandate.
00:13:48.040 He became friends with Lance Wallnau.
00:13:50.680 I'm going to let you listen to Lance himself describe this seven mountain mandate in his own words.
00:13:58.400 Hi, I'm Lance Wallnau.
00:14:00.100 I want to talk to you for a moment about this concept called the 7M mandate.
00:14:04.620 In reality, it started with a conversation I had in the year 2000.
00:14:08.640 I had been talking to Lauren Cunningham, who's the founder of Youth with a Mission.
00:14:13.680 And Lauren was sharing with me about a conversation he had had with Bill Bright.
00:14:17.100 The two of them were visited, actually, by the Lord within the same 24 hours.
00:14:20.800 And God spoke to them and said they had a message to give the other man.
00:14:26.260 And the message was that there are seven molders of culture, or seven world kingdoms, and that
00:14:31.540 he who could take those kingdoms could take the harvest of nations.
00:14:35.560 Now, this illustration is the way I see it.
00:14:39.160 I look at it this way.
00:14:40.660 I see those seven molders of culture as being the religion mountain, as a metaphor for something 1.00
00:14:47.280 you've got to take or climb.
00:14:49.440 Then we have education, we could say.
00:14:52.240 Family.
00:14:52.940 These are in no particular order of importance.
00:14:54.940 They all represent the forces that shape societies and nations.
00:14:59.060 government, media, art, which is the entertainment mountain, and business, which is where we have
00:15:08.400 the economics mountain happening also.
00:15:10.660 Now, these seven fields of influence are very powerful.
00:15:13.400 So powerful, in fact, that he who occupies the top of those mountains can literally shape
00:15:20.320 the agenda that forms nations.
00:15:23.600 The foundation of the prosperity of nations is going to have to be the teaching.
00:15:29.060 of Jesus.
00:15:30.940 The good news is, you can do that covert, or you can do that overt.
00:15:36.320 You can be, like I always say, you could actually be following that thing from Jehovah 0.99
00:15:41.080 Rofi, Jehovah Nisi, Jehovah Sidkenu, or Jehovah Sneaky. 0.78
00:15:47.040 Because God has a way of getting into positions, companies, businesses, nations, and communities
00:15:51.420 before the devil even knows what got in there.
00:15:53.920 Because the gospel is bigger than just the church mountain, it's the gospel that covers the
00:15:58.340 whole earth.
00:15:59.060 So what he's describing there, and what they believe, is that there are new prophets, there
00:16:21.460 are new apostles, they have the seven mountain mandate.
00:16:24.200 And when he is speaking about covertly, he means that, okay?
00:16:27.640 This is a philosophy of infiltration.
00:16:30.560 And he says, but before people even know, boom, he describes it as a devil, but before
00:16:34.400 people know, boom, everyone around them is actually working for a higher purpose.
00:16:40.180 Man, I got to say, kind of sort of reminds me of what happened to Charlie, right?
00:16:46.220 This is kind of where this is going.
00:16:47.720 Turning point faith, everywhere that I'm investigating, turning point faith keeps coming up.
00:16:54.200 These characters keep coming up.
00:16:55.660 And there's a pattern that I'm noticing that a lot of these mainstream pastors and preachers
00:17:00.220 actually come from high-ranking military families.
00:17:03.500 High-ranking military families have been around for a long time.
00:17:06.560 Ties to the Navy, ties to the Air Force.
00:17:09.960 Frank Turek, Air Force.
00:17:11.780 Rob McCoy, we discussed about his background, his naval background, psychological operations.
00:17:16.600 They're literally named like a fleet of ships after his father.
00:17:20.060 Like there was like the McCoy naval something.
00:17:23.920 Lance Wallnau, he's no different.
00:17:26.440 He graduated from a military academy.
00:17:28.760 His father, Carl Wallnau, was a major in the United States Air Force, okay?
00:17:34.620 Wallnau served under General Patton.
00:17:37.600 After the war, he then continued his adventures as a field engineer for Standard Oil, okay?
00:17:44.220 Building high-pressure liquid propane installations throughout political revolutions in the world.
00:17:51.540 So he would go and do that in Haiti and Cuba, Dominican Republic, places I would argue that
00:17:57.500 we cause a lot of drama in, I'm just saying.
00:18:00.300 So Lance fits the pattern well.
00:18:03.380 And before I tell you how he is very connected to Turning Point USA faith, I do want to also
00:18:08.560 be clear that Frank Turek stands out because he flat out acknowledged on one of his podcasts
00:18:13.860 that NAR was a cult, actually darker than a cult.
00:18:18.000 Take a listen to what Frank Turek said about NAR.
00:18:20.560 So technically a group, and NAR stands for what again?
00:18:24.260 I'm sorry, the New Apostolic Reformation. 0.67
00:18:26.320 That's Bill Johnson out there in California, Northern California.
00:18:29.420 We'll talk about him in a minute.
00:18:30.440 But Word of Faith movement, they don't necessarily add, subtract, multiply, or divide, but they're
00:18:38.980 hermeneutic.
00:18:39.920 The way they interpret the scriptures is aberrant.
00:18:43.360 And they interpret the scriptures in such a way that their practice follows this aberrant
00:18:51.080 theology that they have.
00:18:53.320 And they wind up doing things that are more New Agey or more even occult-like than they are
00:18:59.360 Christian.
00:19:00.440 The occult.
00:19:02.980 And that is correct.
00:19:04.860 Now, Frank Turek, this didn't stop him, didn't, or it didn't make him go warn Charlie about
00:19:10.820 this in any way as these people began to infiltrate his organization.
00:19:14.800 And Lance Walno worked his way into Turning Point USA.
00:19:19.240 I had a phone call with someone, by the way, who's extremely close to this current administration,
00:19:22.940 and they said, completely offhandedly, we were not even really discussing Charlie, but
00:19:26.920 then they said, you know, something that's really weird.
00:19:28.460 I was at Charlie's memorial.
00:19:29.280 She said, when did Turning Point become so faith-focused?
00:19:35.420 She's like, I remember, obviously, Charlie always spoke about his evangelical faith.
00:19:38.440 She's like, but when you guys were running around and starting all these Turning Point
00:19:40.660 chapters, it was all about free markets and capitalism.
00:19:42.940 And she was like, and I was at the rally, and it was suddenly faith, faith, faith, faith,
00:19:46.220 pastor, pastor, pastor, pastor.
00:19:47.740 And I said, you know, that is actually interesting.
00:19:51.020 That is true, that it just kind of started, and then it was almost the biggest thing about
00:19:57.440 Turning Point.
00:19:58.520 It's really interesting to consider that.
00:20:00.700 Turning Point suddenly got super-dee-duper faithful with what I would say is an interesting
00:20:06.540 cast of characters.
00:20:07.720 The wrong characters.
00:20:08.720 Rob McCoy leading that frontier, as we know.
00:20:13.580 What people don't know publicly is that Lance Wallnau was working with him, okay?
00:20:17.740 He was intimately involved, and more importantly, he was financially involved.
00:20:22.380 Sources within Turning Point's faith department tell me that Lance was running the show behind
00:20:26.880 the scenes through funding, that he put a ton of money into Turning Point USA faith operations.
00:20:33.780 Now, I guess a better way for me to state this, because I want to be super clear here,
00:20:39.200 is that Lance Wallnau, who is from a military family and who is saying that he believes in
00:20:45.260 infiltration as a means to climb mountains and overtake society, however he just described
00:20:50.760 that, right, was privately directing large sums of money into Turning Point faith, okay?
00:20:58.880 He's friends with Rob McCoy, and he eventually did tour stops with Turning Point faith, and
00:21:06.960 he knew Charlie.
00:21:07.700 He said Charlie was his friend.
00:21:09.220 I think, truly, as a society, that we need to start focusing our attention, okay, independently.
00:21:16.200 Village Crazy Lady, I told you guys about Mel on X. 0.98
00:21:19.040 She's been doing great work on this, but you need to start investigating this faith military 1.00
00:21:24.400 constellation.
00:21:25.980 We can call it the militant faith pipeline, because it's getting a little much for me. 1.00
00:21:30.700 I mean, I told you guys, you start looking at that, and you wonder about other events
00:21:35.800 that have happened in the past, right?
00:21:37.660 There were a ton of conspiracies following October 1st, 2017, when the Las Vegas shooting
00:21:45.080 happened.
00:21:45.900 Largest mass shooting in American history.
00:21:49.040 And it was almost instantly covered up.
00:21:52.700 58 people were murdered.
00:21:55.100 More than 600 others were injured. 0.88
00:21:57.400 And they told us that it was just a lone shooter, Stephen Paddock, some crazy guy who acted alone.
00:22:03.640 Conspiracy theorists said it was a military operation, and there was a ton of evidence to support that,
00:22:08.480 okay?
00:22:08.720 Fast forward a year later, on November 7th of 2018, and there's almost this, like, Las Vegas
00:22:16.600 shooting hangover that happens in Thousand Oaks, California.
00:22:22.240 Oddly, about 40 people who were at the Las Vegas shooting were all at the Borderline Bar one night,
00:22:29.700 when a Marine, whose family knows Rob McCoy, well, Rob McCoy is friends with that Marine,
00:22:36.500 decides to, that Marine's mother, decides to storm into a bar and conduct a mass shooting. 1.00
00:22:43.460 And a victim of that bar shooting was a 27-year-old Navy veteran who had survived the Las Vegas
00:22:51.440 shooting.
00:22:51.800 So it just makes me wonder, was he a victim or was he a target, right?
00:22:56.600 We have to start asking these questions.
00:22:58.040 This is a headline from the BBC regarding the Las Vegas shooting, I'm sorry, the Thousand Oaks
00:23:06.060 shooting at the Borderline Bar and Grill, the Las Vegas shooting survivor being among the dead.
00:23:11.780 We're not getting answers to any of these questions, and they're telling everybody that these are
00:23:16.020 just conspiracies.
00:23:17.000 It's always a conspiracy when you start questioning these fed narratives.
00:23:21.760 One survivor said that the group of them were meeting up for a second time in about a year,
00:23:28.500 having, I guess, like a little Las Vegas reunion, and that's why they were all there.
00:23:32.160 The point being is, following this, a month after this, Rob McCoy then gets elected mayor
00:23:40.000 of Thousand Oaks.
00:23:43.080 He's mayor for a year.
00:23:44.800 And I'm just starting to ask a lot of questions about what is happening here, who is funding
00:23:51.540 these groups, who is funding these pastors, who is funding these churches.
00:23:55.740 We're getting a lot of weird stories about these churches that are coming out.
00:24:00.420 I shared something over the weekend about Romanian sex trafficking on my X feed that is involving
00:24:08.420 one of these churches, one of these big churches out in California.
00:24:12.820 And I'm saying, it's time to start prodding the narrative, because I'm thinking that perhaps
00:24:17.500 faith has been hijacked.
00:24:18.920 And like I said, and we are going to have some explosive stuff for you on Wednesday that we
00:24:25.540 have discovered about this Charlie case.
00:24:27.920 The faith element is compelling, and I am not convinced that these people that stand on stages 1.00
00:24:35.220 and tell you to stop following Tucker Carlson are working on behalf of the Lord, okay?
00:24:43.820 I don't think that that's the case.
00:24:45.300 I think these people that are telling you that you are not allowed to question Israel or you're
00:24:48.440 going to go to hell are not working on behalf of God. 0.61
00:24:53.300 I think that they worship specific people with military ties.
00:24:58.480 In fact, they are just following orders.
00:25:00.760 But there's a picture here that's emerging that we should not ignore.
00:25:04.380 So we will pause there before we get into some of these bizarre responses that I've been
00:25:10.200 going through, militant responses that I've been going through on X from Christian Zionists. 0.99
00:25:15.160 We'll be right back.
00:25:16.820 All right, you guys, I'm going to tell you about pre-born, because you know that I think
00:25:19.840 it's time for all of us to stand up for truth.
00:25:22.440 We have to be courageous.
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00:25:25.860 We shouldn't water down what we believe to be palatable.
00:25:29.060 Silence is not actually kindness.
00:25:30.360 It is consent.
00:25:31.200 And right now, the greatest silence surrounds the topic of lives that are lost before they
00:25:34.880 even take their first breaths.
00:25:35.940 If we're going to call ourselves defenders of life, we have to act like it.
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00:27:21.540 So there is definitely something going on here with these megachurches and these megapastors.
00:27:28.540 And what I was just referring to in the monologue was in California, where a lot of these megachurches
00:27:33.140 are, there's been another megachurch pastor that was accused of trafficking children.
00:27:39.380 They have trafficking children from Romania, of all places.
00:27:45.280 And that former megachurch pastor, I'm going to give you his name here, Paul Havsgaard, right?
00:27:53.760 A missionary.
00:27:54.600 Again, this element of missionary going around the world on these missions.
00:27:57.500 I just, something is just stinking to high heaven.
00:28:00.480 I like to press my finger here.
00:28:01.760 And I don't particularly love the reaction that we're seeing from Christian Zionists right 1.00
00:28:04.760 now.
00:28:04.940 I don't even know how to describe what is happening over in Christian Zionist land.
00:28:09.340 It is wacky.
00:28:11.260 It is definitively exceptional.
00:28:13.040 I've never seen it.
00:28:13.660 There's anger, there's tears, there's frustration, there's fatigue, there's defeat.
00:28:19.320 And of course, there's biblical scripture, right?
00:28:22.680 When my show hit number one globally last week, it was just an all-out virtual war.
00:28:28.260 Seth Dillon from the Babylon Bee tweeted this.
00:28:30.560 This is hilarious.
00:28:31.680 He obviously just tweets a verse trying to make it seem like, again, this is what they
00:28:35.080 do, Christian Zionists.
00:28:36.240 They will find a verse to be petty and use scripture to justify who they really, they just
00:28:42.120 want to insult me or Tucker Carlson.
00:28:43.460 And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?
00:28:47.980 Okay.
00:28:48.180 Like, that's not like that is, are you out of your mind?
00:28:51.040 Actually, I didn't sell my soul, right?
00:28:53.180 All of you guys did.
00:28:54.520 I had to literally build from scratch because I was rejected everywhere.
00:29:00.120 Plus canceled.
00:29:01.120 You shut down, you went after my sponsors, you emailed people, you got me banned from
00:29:06.380 Australia.
00:29:07.340 I actually did the exact opposite.
00:29:10.000 I didn't sell my soul and I said what was right about what was happening in Gaza.
00:29:14.560 So there's that.
00:29:15.360 Joel Berry, who also is at the Babylon Bee, some real funny guys, wrote this.
00:29:20.000 In the last year, Candace and Tucker have given our side nothing but demoralization, division,
00:29:25.540 confusion, and conflict.
00:29:26.940 Their impact on the right has been devastating.
00:29:29.180 They've made us weaker and they've won nothing except clicks and ad revenue for themselves. 1.00
00:29:33.920 Pathetic. 0.99
00:29:34.760 Strange. 0.99
00:29:35.280 I've never been on the same side as Joel Berry.
00:29:37.120 Just want to clarify that.
00:29:38.040 I am never on the side of people that cheer on kids being killed and churches being bombed
00:29:42.980 and insinuate, as he did, that even the Christians in Gaza aren't really human beings and that
00:29:50.080 they're all supporting Hamas, which is basically justifying a genocide, right? 0.85
00:29:55.320 Justification of genocide.
00:29:56.260 I have never been on your side.
00:29:57.960 Then there were these compounding lies, okay?
00:30:02.400 Obviously, last week we watched Ben press Megan on stage.
00:30:08.060 Very strange to see him do something like that.
00:30:10.320 To see him just lie and try to pressure her with the lie.
00:30:13.860 And it was also on the day that it was announced that this podcast was number one globally.
00:30:17.980 I responded on my show with the truth, showed you screenshots of what Charlie had said, said,
00:30:24.180 told you honestly that he had kind of prevented Charlie from coming up.
00:30:28.100 And that was certainly how Charlie felt.
00:30:30.440 And then some guy named Frank McCormick on X started circulating.
00:30:35.400 And then, of course, I instantly made a trend that I forged the text messages, right?
00:30:40.320 That I just made them up.
00:30:41.860 And I was just going to be so risky and throw these text messages up and just lie
00:30:47.600 as if I wasn't going to get debunked quickly.
00:30:50.660 Anyways, this is what he wrote on there.
00:30:52.360 Candace Owens recently posted what she claims are more text messages from Charlie Kirk.
00:30:56.860 He asked ChatGPT to analyze.
00:30:59.780 Look at this next one.
00:31:00.880 If you want to skip over to the next.
00:31:03.420 He analyzed the bubble design, the profile placement, the header layout, font, spacing,
00:31:08.440 color balance.
00:31:09.640 And he discovered that these were digitally fabricated.
00:31:13.480 Bro, you didn't have to do any of that.
00:31:15.520 You could just ask me to show you the messages.
00:31:18.000 I show messages on this show.
00:31:19.500 Like, I'm happy to show you guys this live.
00:31:21.740 So just to give you the receipts here.
00:31:23.680 Wait, Skylar, can you tell me in my ear what did the message even say?
00:31:26.040 Because I can look it up.
00:31:26.840 Just give me like a sentence.
00:31:27.840 Yeah.
00:31:30.880 Okay, keep going.
00:31:38.720 Okay, hold on.
00:31:42.620 That's not populating.
00:31:43.800 It was because the way that it's spaced.
00:31:45.120 Can you give me the sentence after that?
00:31:49.620 There we go.
00:31:50.700 That will work.
00:31:51.260 We just have to treat him like noise.
00:32:01.380 Are there typos in that?
00:32:03.740 Here we go.
00:32:04.320 I found it.
00:32:05.620 There we go.
00:32:06.640 A little bit of typos.
00:32:07.460 There we go.
00:32:08.520 Okay, here we go, guys.
00:32:10.640 Just to show you this.
00:32:11.840 Just looked it up on my phone.
00:32:12.880 These are not made up text messages.
00:32:14.780 You probably want to see the date here and see the time sliding.
00:32:18.520 Hold on.
00:32:19.720 We did not make up these messages.
00:32:21.660 Okay.
00:32:22.000 Iron sharpens iron.
00:32:25.480 It's not a dominant partnership.
00:32:27.080 Each hand washes the other.
00:32:28.480 It is what Christ talked about as true partnership, reliant yet separate.
00:32:32.780 None other dominant.
00:32:34.120 Of course, there is struggle disagreement.
00:32:35.800 But each side gets stronger and sharper because of the other.
00:32:38.860 This is us describing our partnership.
00:32:41.400 These are just real.
00:32:42.260 What an absolute nonsense to think that I would make up text messages.
00:32:47.340 It's just such a nonsense.
00:32:48.240 I don't even know what would be the point of that.
00:32:50.140 What would be the point of that?
00:32:51.320 Okay.
00:32:51.740 I was very clear at the beginning of this entire thing.
00:32:54.680 No fakeness and no gayness. 1.00
00:32:56.180 You know, I ask that if you, you know, didn't get along with Charlie, you don't think that
00:33:00.340 you could just drop a million dollars and then rewrite history.
00:33:03.240 Okay.
00:33:04.520 You might have money.
00:33:05.800 We have truth.
00:33:06.680 That's what's on our side.
00:33:08.120 Also, to build upon that, I saw a clip of Ali Stuckey, who I very much like.
00:33:12.320 I've been clear about that.
00:33:13.240 I very much like Ali Stuckey.
00:33:15.540 I'm very surprised she's working with Alyssa Cordova.
00:33:17.480 But she's also in very rare form.
00:33:19.820 I don't know what's driving that.
00:33:21.620 And she kind of, I guess, I don't know when this live was taken, presumably over the last
00:33:26.420 week.
00:33:26.900 I just saw it circulating.
00:33:29.320 Said to people that we shouldn't be asking these questions about the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:33:33.960 Anyways, I'm not going to put words in them off.
00:33:35.320 Listen to Ali Stuckey.
00:33:37.620 I'm just really tired of some of y'all not thinking.
00:33:40.920 I really am.
00:33:41.960 You say that you're seeking truth and asking questions, but you're actually just outsourcing
00:33:45.820 your critical thinking and your question asking to someone else.
00:33:48.500 And you're never really asking questions.
00:33:50.640 You're never saying, does that make sense?
00:33:52.760 Or what could be the other side of that story?
00:33:54.960 Or what is the alternative explanation for that?
00:33:57.300 Or are these two things actually connected by evidence?
00:34:00.080 Or does it just sound compelling?
00:34:01.720 This is not a Netflix series.
00:34:03.540 It's not an Agatha Christie novel.
00:34:05.780 You're not watching a whodunit movie.
00:34:08.160 These are people's real lives.
00:34:09.660 And if you were implicating a real person in a murder plot, you better be 100% sure that
00:34:16.400 it is true and backed by hard evidence.
00:34:22.360 Think.
00:34:23.540 Turn on your brain.
00:34:24.680 The thoughts we think and the words we say not only affect real people's lives, but they
00:34:31.320 carry weight in eternity.
00:34:33.120 We are responsible for these things.
00:34:34.880 I'm going to take that seriously, but you should too.
00:34:37.780 Look, y'all, I don't even want...
00:34:40.580 I've just been wrestling with this so much over the past few weeks.
00:34:45.420 I don't want the drama.
00:34:46.640 I don't have the time and energy that it takes to go through, to make all of these claims
00:34:54.860 first is incredible.
00:34:56.240 But then to go through and debunk all of these claims, I don't have that time.
00:35:00.620 I don't have that energy.
00:35:01.580 I don't have that capacity.
00:35:02.960 I don't.
00:35:07.160 Look, Allie, I just think she should take a break. 0.91
00:35:09.460 I genuinely didn't even know she was going through it like this.
00:35:11.840 Like, I didn't...
00:35:12.640 I don't think we asked her for any assistance at all, actually.
00:35:15.440 I did all the work, and people sent me stuff, and then we put together a timeline.
00:35:19.980 And here's what I want to say, because you're saying it's real life.
00:35:22.100 It was Charlie's real life, Allie.
00:35:24.340 That was Charlie's real life when you saw him sitting there and he got shot.
00:35:27.320 That was his real life.
00:35:28.920 So I feel like that's the part you're missing, because you're so worried about the surrounding
00:35:32.000 cast of characters who have been literally caught lying.
00:35:35.800 They lied.
00:35:36.520 That's why we're here, okay?
00:35:37.700 We didn't just randomly pluck people up from obscurity, okay?
00:35:40.120 These are people who said, he had blood on him.
00:35:42.760 He's amazing.
00:35:43.360 He was so amazing, but he walked away from Charlie as he was bleeding out.
00:35:47.020 His real life.
00:35:48.000 That was his real life, okay?
00:35:50.520 So that's what's on the line right here, is he's not here anymore.
00:35:53.280 Maybe you're not worried about him, but I am.
00:35:56.420 I'm actually worried, and I want to know what happened to Charlie Kirk, okay?
00:35:59.780 And why I feel like you and so many Christian Zionists just kind of wanted to turn him into 0.99
00:36:04.960 a ghost, like, you know, Charlie the Friendly Ghost, and are not interested at all.
00:36:09.440 And if you're looking for real life Agatha Christie stuff, in real life, people's necks don't stop
00:36:16.180 30-06 bullets.
00:36:17.980 In real life.
00:36:18.760 That's all I'm saying.
00:36:19.720 In real life, when you spend millions of dollars on security, on your security detail, they don't
00:36:25.040 have you sitting like a sitting duck and forget to have an ambulance behind you.
00:36:29.180 In real life, I worked for Turning Point USA, and I know what does not make sense in terms
00:36:34.620 of the timeline of how this event came together.
00:36:36.640 And in real life, if somebody suspects you in a murder for any reason whatsoever, and you
00:36:42.720 can put something out publicly that will clarify a fact that isn't correct, if you say it's not
00:36:47.220 correct, you would do that.
00:36:49.380 You wouldn't hide.
00:36:50.460 In four seconds, I would say, oh, this is, oh, the reason why I was on the phone with
00:36:53.840 so-and-so had nothing to do with anything.
00:36:55.880 So people are following their instincts because they should, but I just want to remind you
00:36:59.580 because it bothers me that that was Charlie's real life.
00:37:02.120 Okay?
00:37:02.520 That was Charlie's real life, Allie.
00:37:04.680 All right?
00:37:04.920 Move on for that.
00:37:06.080 See, you're stressed out.
00:37:06.980 I'm stressed out, too, to be honest with you.
00:37:09.120 And we're not the only people that are stressed out because apparently Grok is stressed out because
00:37:12.380 it can't keep up with the lies that are being spread about me.
00:37:15.000 So he had some sort of a software crash out.
00:37:18.200 This was him being like, I'm tired.
00:37:20.240 I'm tired.
00:37:20.960 And sitting in his car, I'm just going to show you what Grok said at the top here.
00:37:27.820 No, I want the Grok headline.
00:37:30.080 Candace Owens accuses Turning Point USA of Charlie Kirk assassination role.
00:37:34.280 And then it says, Candace Owens alleged Turning Point USA orchestrated the October 15th, 2025
00:37:42.100 assassination of its founder, Charlie Kirk in Phoenix, Arizona, by former volunteer Marcus
00:37:49.140 Hale, who police say acted alone with no evidence.
00:37:52.720 Ben Shapiro publicly condemned Owens' claims as evil.
00:37:55.940 And then, yeah, it's just none of this is real.
00:38:01.160 Like, you guys are exhausting, not just Ali Stucky, you're exhausting Grok. 1.00
00:38:06.060 So many lies are being made up about me.
00:38:08.380 If you don't have time to look at the facts and see what we've come up with, and that's fine.
00:38:12.360 But you're not required to interject here.
00:38:14.580 That's when everybody I know that, Grok, Ali, everyone, you are not required to take part in this.
00:38:19.400 And we're not stopping, okay?
00:38:20.680 And I just sense, I just sense that we're getting close.
00:38:25.540 And when I tell you on Wednesday what we discovered about those Egyptian military planes,
00:38:30.840 I think some more people are going to be on the run.
00:38:34.420 Anyways, the oddest response came from Mark Levin, who has been kind of psychopathically obsessed
00:38:40.540 with destroying Tucker Carlson for years now.
00:38:42.900 He was very happy when Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox News.
00:38:47.120 They don't seem to be friends.
00:38:47.940 And regarding Mark Levin, if a person was actually like,
00:38:52.860 you should move to Israel because it would make you happy, happier, 1.00
00:38:55.660 if that was a person, that would be Mark Levin, okay?
00:39:00.120 Turning Point USA, credit to them, said we are not canceling Tucker Carlson,
00:39:04.120 despite the peer pressure, despite them sending out every queen and pawn on the board to make that happen.
00:39:09.180 They said he's still speaking.
00:39:10.460 And not only is he speaking, but why don't you debate Mark Levin?
00:39:14.840 Debate Tucker Carlson on stage.
00:39:16.340 And this is how Mark Levin responded.
00:39:19.260 It's incredible.
00:39:20.460 And I'm actually going to roll the whole thing.
00:39:22.020 It's about two and a half minutes, but I want you guys to listen to him.
00:39:25.020 I got a very strange text this morning from Tucker Carlson.
00:39:29.220 10 and 16 a.m.
00:39:30.360 I'll read it to you for verbatim.
00:39:32.840 Good morning, he writes to me.
00:39:34.080 See, the leadership at Turning Point has asked me to debate you at their event in Scottsdale in December.
00:39:40.720 I'm happy to do it, and I hope you'll agree as well.
00:39:44.120 Beyond the personal insults, which I'll try to keep to a minimum,
00:39:47.720 there are real and important ideological differences between us.
00:39:51.220 And I think the country would benefit from an extended conversation about them.
00:39:55.320 So, again, I hope you'll accept.
00:39:57.540 Let me know.
00:39:58.320 Thanks.
00:40:01.980 The guy is desperate.
00:40:04.040 He's taking a hit on his podcast.
00:40:07.300 He's fighting like hell for his career.
00:40:09.360 He's fighting like hell for his reputation. 1.00
00:40:10.940 People are awakening to what scum he actually is. 0.99
00:40:16.080 And he thinks I'm going to platform him? 0.98
00:40:19.400 He thinks I'm going to help him kick up his podcast ratings?
00:40:23.800 What would Charlie say?
00:40:25.120 What would Rush say?
00:40:26.880 What would any rational response?
00:40:28.860 Here it is.
00:40:29.940 I wrote him the following.
00:40:32.200 My family and I want nothing to do with you.
00:40:35.240 What you've become, your vile liables against my faith,
00:40:38.860 millions of Christians, and in my view,
00:40:40.940 what you seek to do to our country.
00:40:44.260 There's nothing to debate. 0.95
00:40:45.940 You're a Nazi promoter. 0.93
00:40:47.660 You're the modern-day David Duke. 0.91
00:40:49.820 I debate people with whom I disagree for a living,
00:40:53.400 who are a lot smarter than you,
00:40:55.440 but for whom I have some respect.
00:40:58.060 I'm also disappointed in TPUSA
00:41:01.040 that continues to platform you.
00:41:03.860 It's not about free speech.
00:41:05.260 You could be heard by millions regardless.
00:41:08.360 Some unsolicited advice.
00:41:10.340 Stop long enough to remember who you used to be
00:41:13.260 and what you used to stand for.
00:41:15.200 So, as expected, knee-jerk.
00:41:20.300 For the record, I'm strongly anti-Nazi.
00:41:22.400 Does he sound that way to you, America?
00:41:23.940 Oh, you're going to hear more.
00:41:25.560 But that's hardly the point.
00:41:27.120 This seems like the perfect opportunity
00:41:28.980 to rebut what you consider evil ideas
00:41:31.440 and to do it to my face like a man.
00:41:34.040 I think you'd jump at the chance,
00:41:35.800 assuming you believe your positions are defensible.
00:41:38.520 I'm offering the marketplace of ideas
00:41:40.900 you often talk about.
00:41:42.240 Is it possible you can't really defend, for example,
00:41:45.660 what Israel has done to civilians in Gaza?
00:41:49.160 I said, there you go.
00:41:51.260 You're not feared.
00:41:52.360 You're despised. 1.00
00:41:54.040 Well, you're a coward. 1.00
00:41:55.380 And if you change your mind, I'm here. 1.00
00:41:56.840 Thanks. 1.00
00:41:57.240 You little bastard. 1.00
00:42:01.220 You attacked my stepson. 1.00
00:42:05.120 You didn't do that face-to-face, did you? 0.99
00:42:07.960 You stabbed him in the back
00:42:10.420 while he's serving President Trump on his second tour 0.59
00:42:13.920 while he's in safe rooms
00:42:16.420 with ballistic missiles passing over his head. 1.00
00:42:19.040 You little bastard. 1.00
00:42:20.460 Nobody's afraid of you. 1.00
00:42:23.620 I'd rather debate a skunk than you. 1.00
00:42:27.240 Like, is he good?
00:42:30.800 Is everybody okay?
00:42:32.820 Like, what?
00:42:35.380 This would be your opportunity
00:42:36.780 to reveal Tucker Carlson to the world
00:42:39.520 since you say, like, that he's a fraud
00:42:42.760 and he's lying and all of this stuff.
00:42:44.120 Like, why wouldn't you readily accept that debate?
00:42:46.300 Why are you so focused on canceling him?
00:42:48.240 And LOL to you saying
00:42:49.640 that you don't want to platform Tucker Carlson.
00:42:52.720 Yeah, you know what?
00:42:53.620 I decided on this podcast,
00:42:54.600 I'm not going to platform Taylor Swift.
00:42:56.180 Yeah, I'm not going to platform her.
00:42:57.600 So if she ever wants to come with this podcast,
00:42:59.440 I will not platform her.
00:43:00.520 Are you this delusional?
00:43:01.620 You cannot be that delusional.
00:43:03.040 You cannot be that delusional.
00:43:05.140 What are you saying?
00:43:06.700 Something is happening.
00:43:07.880 I'm telling you guys,
00:43:08.460 this is like a full Zionist crash out 0.94
00:43:10.380 since Charlie died.
00:43:11.360 And I just feel like they sent a very real threat
00:43:14.060 to the little matrix that they established.
00:43:17.020 And so much so
00:43:19.380 that I'm actually proud to announce
00:43:21.120 that I have finally caught the final Pokemon ball.
00:43:23.920 I've long said that
00:43:25.140 in terms of the names I get called in the media,
00:43:27.400 I feel like I'm playing Pokemon.
00:43:29.320 I just got to catch every single ball.
00:43:30.820 When they try to cancel you,
00:43:31.980 that's what they do.
00:43:32.600 They call you all sorts of things.
00:43:33.980 Anti-Semitic. 0.99
00:43:35.120 I've been called a self-hating black person. 0.99
00:43:37.400 I've been called a homophobe. 0.99
00:43:39.100 I've been called a transphobe. 0.99
00:43:40.800 I've been called crazy. 0.74
00:43:42.660 I've been diagnosed as suffering
00:43:44.560 from postpartum depression,
00:43:47.640 postpartum psychosis,
00:43:49.080 a postpartum depression.
00:43:50.100 And I didn't think there was anything left for me to grab,
00:43:53.920 but it's here.
00:43:54.660 It's final.
00:43:55.140 I've now won the game.
00:43:56.300 And they are calling me a cult leader.
00:43:59.840 Yeah.
00:44:00.260 So because I survived all their attacks
00:44:02.240 and have focused my energy
00:44:04.400 on what I wanted to build
00:44:05.280 and not on who I want to destroy,
00:44:06.740 they have decided that that's
00:44:08.160 because I'm leading a cult.
00:44:09.760 Now, when I think of a cult,
00:44:10.760 I typically think of people who say like,
00:44:13.180 oh, you're going to get into heaven
00:44:14.860 if you defend Bibi Netanyahu, right?
00:44:17.820 It says it right here in the Bible.
00:44:19.420 And if you don't unfollow Candace Owens,
00:44:21.480 you won't go to heaven.
00:44:22.520 That to me is cult language,
00:44:24.040 promising people that their souls
00:44:26.560 are somehow tied to following your instructions.
00:44:30.660 I'm just trying to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk.
00:44:32.840 Okay.
00:44:33.320 That's all.
00:44:33.840 I want to know who killed my friend.
00:44:35.420 Well, Carrie Smith,
00:44:36.360 who is the host of the podcast Deprogrammed
00:44:39.380 with Carrie Smith,
00:44:41.160 says that she was formerly of a cult mindset.
00:44:43.800 And so she's an expert on this.
00:44:44.960 And she has now watched 10 episodes of this show.
00:44:49.980 She watched the Charlie Kirk series,
00:44:51.520 and she has determined that if you are interested
00:44:55.160 in what I have to say
00:44:56.960 and what I am uncovering about Charlie Kirk's assassination,
00:45:00.120 then you, you at home are in a cult.
00:45:03.460 Take it away, Carrie. 0.89
00:45:04.580 I do think it's a cult.
00:45:06.320 I think she is exhibiting several cult tactics.
00:45:11.820 She's demonstrating several different tactics. 0.98
00:45:13.900 I think she's using manipulative language 0.99
00:45:17.080 and a lot of cluster B personality disorder behavior.
00:45:22.160 I think that it's easy to observe that,
00:45:25.540 but apparently it's not easy for some people, I guess.
00:45:28.800 And I'm assuming maybe that's because
00:45:30.200 they haven't been through that before with someone.
00:45:32.340 Maybe they haven't experienced it before.
00:45:34.720 And so this is not an episode for people
00:45:38.780 who are in that cult.
00:45:40.160 It's not an episode for people
00:45:41.500 who are just hanging on every word and following it.
00:45:45.020 And I've interacted with quite a few of you,
00:45:47.360 and I'm not trying to convince you.
00:45:49.320 You're obviously not going to be happy with this episode
00:45:51.580 and call me all kinds of names.
00:45:53.420 I've been, over the weekend,
00:45:55.180 called every kind of a Jew, a Jew lover.
00:46:00.180 I'm getting paid $7,000. 1.00
00:46:02.940 Why don't I go suck, blah, blah, blah, 0.99
00:46:04.720 like just terrible, very angry things. 0.99
00:46:08.640 And that's okay.
00:46:10.380 This isn't for you.
00:46:11.700 This is an episode for normies
00:46:13.340 who are trying to figure out what's happening
00:46:15.760 because like a lot of us,
00:46:17.320 they used to put a lot of trust in Candace Owens
00:46:20.800 and some of these other influential figures.
00:46:23.080 And they're like, what is happening?
00:46:25.160 What happened to her?
00:46:26.320 So what happened to me was that
00:46:29.080 I saw Charlie Kirk get shot in the throat,
00:46:30.940 but I do want to just bring her up
00:46:32.540 for a second without playing it.
00:46:34.000 I can't be the only person that's really stressed out
00:46:35.960 by how she's organizing those books.
00:46:38.300 Like that is like, I've, that is,
00:46:40.860 that is, I don't like the way those books are at all.
00:46:43.300 That really stressing me out.
00:46:44.360 So she's lucky I'm not nine months pregnant
00:46:46.980 because this would not fly.
00:46:48.560 I would be organizing that.
00:46:49.620 Like why the different levels?
00:46:51.000 Anyways, she's queen of diagnosing this, 1.00
00:46:53.360 I guess, cluster B personality.
00:46:54.560 Now, what I will say is this is,
00:46:57.220 if you go back any fed operation, COVID,
00:46:59.620 whenever you don't follow the federal narrative,
00:47:02.340 if you don't listen to the government,
00:47:04.000 they always diagnose you with Machiavellian,
00:47:08.080 what do they call it?
00:47:08.760 Like the dark triad traits, Machiavellian, narcissistic.
00:47:13.080 And they say that you're in a cult.
00:47:14.160 If you don't wear a mask, save lives.
00:47:15.820 They did the same exact stuff.
00:47:17.000 You can go back, literally go back.
00:47:18.800 This is their final stage of,
00:47:20.360 we're not getting people to behave and listen to us.
00:47:22.380 So we're going to diagnose them.
00:47:23.480 And she listed all of the reasons,
00:47:25.880 the signs that I was in a cult and about seven of them.
00:47:29.820 She, one of them is forced teaming. 0.91
00:47:31.640 She says that I use inclusive language,
00:47:33.720 like us, us, we, we, we will solve this.
00:47:39.300 Again, what is it about they and we?
00:47:43.220 What is it about plurality
00:47:45.300 that stresses these people out so much?
00:47:47.100 These are just words.
00:47:48.160 I do think we are going to solve this.
00:47:49.660 I say we, because all the information I have
00:47:52.420 is thanks to the tip slide.
00:47:53.660 So we're all kind of in this together,
00:47:55.360 trying to put the pieces together
00:47:56.620 to figure out who killed Charlie.
00:47:59.560 Yeah.
00:48:00.360 She also says that I repeat myself constantly,
00:48:03.460 that I use sarcasm.
00:48:04.860 Um, and I would say that this is sounding a lot like my toddlers
00:48:09.900 who could be in a cult.
00:48:13.000 Now that she, now that I'm thinking about it,
00:48:14.480 she might be right because they are laughing.
00:48:17.720 They are sarcastic.
00:48:18.940 They definitely have used terms like we
00:48:21.220 and us when they address me and their father,
00:48:23.660 and they repeat themselves the whole time,
00:48:25.520 the whole time.
00:48:26.400 So, uh, stay tuned.
00:48:27.780 And then my favorite part is that she says,
00:48:29.580 like, we have a phrase and it's,
00:48:31.760 if you don't know, no,
00:48:33.040 it seems like we don't know, no, but we know.
00:48:35.580 And she says that that, that's somehow cult.
00:48:38.160 I don't know.
00:48:38.580 It's a part of the cult stuff.
00:48:40.360 So I guess I'm the cult of telling you
00:48:42.040 to think for yourself and to trust your gut.
00:48:44.660 And if something seems like it's wrong,
00:48:46.200 it's because it probably is wrong.
00:48:47.620 And the government telling you to violate that,
00:48:49.900 to ignore your sense, your senses,
00:48:52.680 uh, to believe something
00:48:54.320 that is just truly unbelievable.
00:48:56.340 Like a 30-06 got stopped by Charlie's neck
00:48:59.340 because miracle.
00:49:00.880 Yeah, trust yourself.
00:49:01.940 That's, that is kind of the goal here
00:49:03.960 is to let people stop committing
00:49:06.980 to government groupthink,
00:49:08.600 which is how they control us all
00:49:09.880 and also make us hate each other.
00:49:11.500 It is just a fact that the greatest threat
00:49:13.660 to government and what this is really about
00:49:15.400 is the left and the right coming together, right?
00:49:17.820 This is like the thing that they have to prevent
00:49:19.520 and this is why I am now number one
00:49:22.300 in who they are attacking.
00:49:23.280 I'm talking about the military-industrial complex,
00:49:25.200 which has been ruling our nation
00:49:26.340 for a very long time.
00:49:27.740 I'm encouraging people to read books,
00:49:29.280 to learn about the history of psychology
00:49:31.300 and why they do these sorts of things
00:49:33.420 like diagnose you.
00:49:34.680 I'm telling people
00:49:35.360 that they should homeschool their kids, right?
00:49:36.940 So they don't end up like us.
00:49:38.460 And when I say like us,
00:49:39.840 committed to one side or the other,
00:49:41.400 convinced that we have things figured out
00:49:42.640 when we're shouting at each other
00:49:43.880 and not looking at the real power apparatus
00:49:45.880 that sits behind.
00:49:46.700 So to that extent,
00:49:48.380 I do understand
00:49:49.400 why Tucker and I have become threat number one,
00:49:52.940 showing that you can survive
00:49:54.060 outside of their matrix,
00:49:55.460 not taking money,
00:49:56.800 not taking the money
00:49:57.820 that makes you fearful to speak out
00:49:59.880 and surviving it.
00:50:01.580 But beyond that,
00:50:03.220 yeah, no,
00:50:03.640 I really would not say
00:50:05.080 that we are leading a cult,
00:50:07.640 but we're not getting rid of this,
00:50:08.680 first off.
00:50:09.200 We don't know,
00:50:09.740 but we know, okay?
00:50:10.980 And it's a fact
00:50:11.520 and we are going to solve
00:50:12.400 the Charlie Kirk murder.
00:50:13.340 So we'll take a quick break
00:50:14.220 and then I'll read some of your comments.
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00:52:32.840 Top comment
00:52:33.500 from Friday's episode.
00:52:34.940 Think Before You Type
00:52:36.160 wrote Ben Shapiro
00:52:37.660 was all for Candace Owens
00:52:38.860 keeping it real
00:52:39.560 with the black community
00:52:40.380 until she started
00:52:41.440 keeping it real with Israel.
00:52:44.080 And that, my friend,
00:52:45.100 is a fact.
00:52:45.800 And here's the thing.
00:52:46.900 I don't care who you are.
00:52:48.660 I'm an equal opportunity offender. 1.00
00:52:50.440 If you're being stupid 1.00
00:52:51.600 and what you're saying 1.00
00:52:52.400 doesn't make sense,
00:52:53.600 I'm going to call it out.
00:52:55.420 Whether you're,
00:52:56.360 there's nothing
00:52:56.600 that's going to protect you.
00:52:57.340 Being a woman's not going to protect you. 1.00
00:52:58.620 Being black, being Jewish, 0.90
00:53:00.040 none of it's, 0.99
00:53:00.520 it's just not going to work
00:53:01.380 if you're going to use
00:53:02.000 identity politics.
00:53:03.480 And right now,
00:53:04.620 it is just the case
00:53:05.480 that Zionists are being 1.00
00:53:06.640 a little cray-cray.
00:53:07.660 A lot of cray-cray.
00:53:08.580 Very cray-cray
00:53:09.260 and kind of dangerous.
00:53:11.340 Also,
00:53:12.060 I want to tell you,
00:53:12.620 by the way,
00:53:12.840 one of the things
00:53:13.780 that she mentioned
00:53:14.460 as sign of a cult
00:53:15.580 was me reading comments
00:53:16.540 at the end.
00:53:17.100 Obviously,
00:53:17.520 you guys pay for me
00:53:18.280 to read these comments
00:53:19.040 and you guys compliment me,
00:53:21.200 which is very kind.
00:53:22.100 And so she said
00:53:22.600 that me reading your comments
00:53:24.380 is a cult leader tactic.
00:53:26.980 But I'm going to keep
00:53:27.540 reading these comments.
00:53:28.460 U.S. flagpole guy writes,
00:53:30.100 we love you, Candace.
00:53:30.800 We pray for you
00:53:31.380 and your family.
00:53:32.200 And for truth,
00:53:33.120 fight, fight, fight.
00:53:34.140 Thank you so much
00:53:34.820 for that donation.
00:53:35.940 Stephanie writes,
00:53:36.660 Charlie knew that you
00:53:37.420 would have the strength
00:53:38.080 of iron against
00:53:38.780 their fighting words.
00:53:40.080 When the battleground
00:53:40.880 was set,
00:53:41.360 you are truly armor bearer.
00:53:42.860 Be my David.
00:53:43.700 Yeah,
00:53:43.980 they've cited that as well.
00:53:45.540 And I was like,
00:53:46.260 I just shared Charlie's messages
00:53:47.620 and he knew he was going to die.
00:53:48.940 And that is actually,
00:53:50.460 in retrospect,
00:53:51.500 incredibly compelling.
00:53:53.500 And I wish I had,
00:53:55.320 I mean,
00:53:55.500 I guess there's nothing
00:53:55.860 I could have done
00:53:56.780 if there's really
00:53:58.620 nothing I could have done.
00:53:59.180 And I have to remind myself
00:54:00.140 of that.
00:54:01.100 Zamet writes,
00:54:01.720 Candace,
00:54:02.060 number one worldwide,
00:54:03.280 secret sauce.
00:54:04.260 She speaks to us,
00:54:05.400 not at us.
00:54:06.180 Yeah,
00:54:07.280 we're just trying to figure out
00:54:08.380 what's going on
00:54:09.040 and we know
00:54:09.660 that what they're telling us
00:54:10.760 is going on
00:54:11.400 is definitely not
00:54:12.060 what's going on.
00:54:13.140 And my requirement's
00:54:14.780 pretty easy.
00:54:15.300 Are you interested?
00:54:16.800 They're asking you 1.00
00:54:17.780 to be an idiot. 1.00
00:54:19.020 Just be an idiot. 1.00
00:54:19.840 It's just, 1.00
00:54:20.540 this narrative
00:54:21.240 regarding Charlie Kirk
00:54:22.320 is just,
00:54:23.120 I've never seen
00:54:24.360 any situation
00:54:27.220 where they didn't present
00:54:28.840 a shred of proof
00:54:31.080 for their narrative.
00:54:32.340 Not a shred of proof.
00:54:33.480 They won't show us
00:54:34.280 a clear picture
00:54:35.620 of Tyler Robinson
00:54:36.720 on that day
00:54:37.180 despite all the cameras.
00:54:38.120 That would do a lot.
00:54:39.120 If they just dropped
00:54:39.740 one clear image,
00:54:41.320 right,
00:54:41.660 we would be like,
00:54:42.840 oh,
00:54:43.160 at least he was on campus.
00:54:44.740 Like,
00:54:44.860 at least we can get there.
00:54:46.640 Nothing.
00:54:47.240 They're just like,
00:54:48.120 trust us 1000%
00:54:49.800 and we're going to make
00:54:52.260 the physics,
00:54:53.600 it's totally,
00:54:53.920 everything's impossible
00:54:54.700 but just trust us.
00:54:56.400 We're asking for such little,
00:54:58.480 if you actually go back
00:54:59.480 and appreciate
00:55:00.320 how the story has unfolded,
00:55:02.200 we are basically saying
00:55:03.440 we would have taken
00:55:04.300 the bare minimum
00:55:05.060 and maybe accepted
00:55:06.520 some of this narrative.
00:55:07.440 They're giving us nothing
00:55:08.480 and telling us
00:55:09.040 to swallow it whole.
00:55:10.000 We just can't do that,
00:55:11.020 okay?
00:55:11.300 We just cannot do that.
00:55:13.380 Mickey Shaw writes,
00:55:14.240 we love you, Candace.
00:55:15.220 Well, you know what?
00:55:15.980 Go tell that to Colt Lady. 1.00
00:55:17.680 She's going to be
00:55:17.960 really upset about that.
00:55:19.800 Aries Girl writes,
00:55:21.180 seven,
00:55:21.340 seven mil,
00:55:23.000 seven million,
00:55:23.640 oh,
00:55:23.780 seven mountain mandate
00:55:24.600 you're referring to.
00:55:25.460 Makes me think of Satan
00:55:26.520 tempting Christ
00:55:27.500 in the quote from Elder Ephraim.
00:55:29.360 The person who limits his mind
00:55:31.440 to the name of Christ,
00:55:32.960 the hour of death,
00:55:33.720 the beauty of paradise
00:55:34.540 and the love of God
00:55:35.280 will purge it
00:55:36.020 of every demonic contemplation.
00:55:40.220 The note here is Ephraim,
00:55:42.040 Ephraim was a revered
00:55:43.180 Greek Orthodox hero monk,
00:55:45.560 higher monk.
00:55:46.160 Does that say higher monk?
00:55:46.920 Okay.
00:55:48.800 Yeah, I'm not that familiar
00:55:51.120 with that either.
00:55:51.680 And the Greek Orthodox
00:55:52.680 Archdiocese of America.
00:55:54.740 Okay.
00:55:55.560 That's very interesting.
00:55:56.380 What I will say is
00:55:57.360 it's giving cults to say
00:55:59.300 you can infiltrate
00:56:01.060 in the name of the Lord
00:56:02.180 and which means
00:56:03.960 be deceptive, right?
00:56:05.060 You can be deceptive
00:56:06.300 in the name of the Lord.
00:56:08.200 It doesn't make me feel good
00:56:09.300 knowing that
00:56:10.120 he was putting money
00:56:11.440 into Turning Point USA faith.
00:56:13.340 And like I said,
00:56:14.060 we are going to have
00:56:14.720 some exclusive revelations
00:56:16.120 on Wednesday
00:56:17.040 that's going to make you
00:56:18.180 rethink everything.
00:56:19.500 And Turning Point faith
00:56:21.080 keeps coming up
00:56:21.880 in this investigation.
00:56:22.940 I think money
00:56:23.640 was being interjected
00:56:24.800 and I don't think,
00:56:25.580 I think when Charlie
00:56:26.100 raised his head
00:56:26.860 and realized something was wrong
00:56:28.980 and that's why
00:56:29.500 he established Doge,
00:56:31.220 he made some real enemies.
00:56:34.000 Charlie was too brilliant
00:56:35.240 to just ask a question.
00:56:37.820 He would have arrived
00:56:38.360 at the answer very quickly.
00:56:40.460 He learned very quickly,
00:56:41.860 processed information
00:56:42.860 very quickly.
00:56:44.120 And to the extent
00:56:44.880 that he was paying attention,
00:56:46.140 he would have found out.
00:56:47.480 That is,
00:56:48.560 that's just a fact.
00:56:50.140 It is not a small thing.
00:56:51.860 They tried to reduce it.
00:56:52.880 It's not a small thing
00:56:53.900 that Charlie
00:56:55.140 suddenly was wondering
00:56:57.220 about where the money
00:56:58.160 was coming from
00:56:58.820 and where it was going to.
00:57:00.260 On that note,
00:57:01.120 later on this week,
00:57:02.020 will we have
00:57:02.500 having a guest join us
00:57:03.700 that will speak on Friday
00:57:04.940 about Turning Point's finances
00:57:07.000 and that's going to
00:57:07.800 paint a big picture.
00:57:09.520 It's going to make
00:57:10.180 a lot of sense
00:57:10.700 why some people
00:57:11.540 are freaking out
00:57:12.380 about this investigation
00:57:13.280 and pretending
00:57:13.660 to be his friend
00:57:14.320 coming up with 1.00
00:57:15.000 ridiculously stupid 1.00
00:57:16.760 conclusions 1.00
00:57:18.200 about how I betrayed him
00:57:19.840 or I lied
00:57:20.800 when I said
00:57:21.340 I didn't give
00:57:21.840 a single interview
00:57:22.580 regarding Charlie.
00:57:24.720 I was in a true stage
00:57:25.660 of grief.
00:57:26.180 I didn't offer
00:57:26.640 a single interview.
00:57:28.000 Well, Alex Clark
00:57:28.960 figured out,
00:57:29.620 she rumbled to me 0.95
00:57:30.280 that I spoke to CNN
00:57:32.640 in a,
00:57:33.740 I had already scheduled CNN
00:57:35.120 for my book promo
00:57:36.060 and we kept the interview
00:57:37.720 on September 27th
00:57:39.660 or something
00:57:40.040 and she's like,
00:57:40.640 well, she lied.
00:57:41.200 She spoke to CNN.
00:57:43.140 That interview
00:57:43.600 was supposed to be
00:57:44.320 exclusively
00:57:44.820 about my book promotion,
00:57:47.680 my background,
00:57:48.980 what brought me
00:57:49.420 to this moment
00:57:50.120 and actually,
00:57:52.380 Elle Reeves
00:57:53.300 did not even get
00:57:54.140 to my book
00:57:54.640 at all.
00:57:55.300 She didn't mention
00:57:55.780 my book at all
00:57:57.000 which is quite stunning
00:57:57.780 in retrospect
00:57:58.760 by the end
00:57:59.500 because she was trying
00:58:01.100 to hammer me
00:58:01.820 not on the Charlie stuff
00:58:03.380 but she was trying
00:58:03.880 to hammer me
00:58:04.460 so much on
00:58:05.480 Zionism. 0.97
00:58:07.680 You know,
00:58:08.180 Israel is kind of 0.96
00:58:09.140 what she wanted
00:58:09.560 to speak about
00:58:10.160 and then Brigitte Macron
00:58:11.200 is what she wanted
00:58:11.900 to speak about.
00:58:12.880 Anyways,
00:58:13.660 speaking of this book,
00:58:15.120 I loved seeing this online,
00:58:16.700 Make Him a Sandwich.
00:58:17.680 Somebody in Serbia 0.57
00:58:18.440 got the book
00:58:19.120 and her husband
00:58:20.240 fake signed it.
00:58:21.840 He forged my signature
00:58:23.120 and he wrote
00:58:25.260 to her,
00:58:26.580 I can't read her name,
00:58:27.880 Dear Kiki,
00:58:29.140 please make me
00:58:30.520 a sandwich
00:58:31.200 and I can't read that,
00:58:33.160 something,
00:58:33.480 something,
00:58:33.720 and then he signs it himself.
00:58:35.260 He signs it XOXO Candace.
00:58:36.940 I love this idea
00:58:37.920 of men fake signing
00:58:39.420 my book
00:58:39.960 to try to get their wives 1.00
00:58:40.980 to do stuff
00:58:41.540 so I had to pull that out.
00:58:42.660 That's all the way
00:58:43.040 from Belgrade, Serbia.
00:58:44.260 I reached out to her
00:58:45.020 and we're now going to send
00:58:45.660 her a free signed copy
00:58:46.600 because it made me giggle
00:58:47.460 so much this morning
00:58:48.220 and if you guys
00:58:49.160 would like to get
00:58:49.660 your copy,
00:58:50.620 you can go to
00:58:50.940 MakeHimASandwich.com.
00:58:53.860 This book is doing fantastic
00:58:55.020 and we're really excited
00:58:55.860 about that.
00:58:56.740 So, yeah.
00:58:57.800 What else do I have
00:58:58.380 for you guys?
00:58:58.860 Thank you for supporting me.
00:59:00.320 Twitter is crazy.
00:59:01.300 X is crazy.
00:59:02.360 I don't know why
00:59:03.260 but there's a Zionist picture
00:59:04.780 that is emerging
00:59:06.300 in this story.
00:59:07.420 It's a faith picture.
00:59:08.960 Be wary of the influencers
00:59:10.660 who are trying
00:59:11.460 to struggle session you
00:59:12.500 into believing
00:59:13.640 that actually recognizing
00:59:15.800 that what they are telling us
00:59:18.300 makes virtually zero sense
00:59:20.960 is somehow a sin.
00:59:22.940 I would say this isn't
00:59:25.300 an Agatha Christie novel.
00:59:27.120 Real life is actually better
00:59:28.600 than an Agatha Christie novel.
00:59:30.380 I'm realizing
00:59:31.280 there is so much corruption
00:59:32.800 that is happening
00:59:33.340 and we are now
00:59:35.880 in a time
00:59:36.600 of tremendous revelation.
00:59:37.900 So, if you are working
00:59:39.040 for The Side of Darkness,
00:59:41.720 you are probably
00:59:42.680 right about now
00:59:43.500 on notice.
00:59:44.980 We'll see you guys
00:59:45.820 on Wednesday.
00:59:46.400 We'll see you guys