Why Is Everyone Crashing Out Over The Charlie Kirk Investigation？ ｜ Candace Ep 262
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Candace Owens reveals who she believes is the most likely suspect in the murder of Charlie Kirk and why she thinks it's connected to the FBI seizing security footage from the hospital where he was taken after being shot and why they are now on the hunt for the shooter.
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All right, you guys, happy Monday. And is everybody okay? I just want to check in to see if everybody's feeling okay, because there are a lot of people online who are coming undone. What is it about the Charlie Kirk investigation? What is it about Charlie Kirk's assassination that is causing so much panic?
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Like, they're saying I faked the text messages again, the ones I showed regarding Ben Shapiro. They got AI analysis. These are fake. They're sending experts, quote unquote experts out to diagnose me at my show. And they've decided we're a cult. Okay. Over the weekend, Grok, literally the AI robot crashed out. He crashed out. He couldn't keep up with the lies about me.
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And so then he stated, the robot on top of a trend, that Candace Owens has accused Marcus Hale of murdering Charlie Kirk this past October. I don't know what's going on. I'm just going to say that it's kind of weird how the only people that seem to believe the Fed story are Zionists.
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And they demand that we accept the Fed story. And their panic is making me think that we're getting closer to something and that something is pretty big. And it's going to imply a lot of people. I don't know. Today, I'm going to tell you guys about a particular person who is connected to Charlie Kirk and January 6th. So welcome back to Candace.
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Okay, so something that I want to say right at the top here before we get further into the Charlie Kirk story and speaking about January 6th and how somehow that's connected.
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There's something I learned that's bothering me. I'm just going to put it out there, see if it bothers you as well. But I learned via tips that the Feds immediately seized the footage at Timpanogos Hospital.
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Okay, Timpanogos Hospital. Remember, this is the hospital that it was quite strange that they moved to take Charlie to because it was further and also less equipped than UV Hospital.
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Like it was like UV was a trauma one and Timpanogos was trauma three. And a bunch of people said very strange that they took him here. And then it got strange because we started hearing from other people that he was definitely at UV Hospital. It was very weird.
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Anyways, I would like to add to that by saying that on the day that Charlie was shot, for whatever reason, you know, Kash Patel injects himself into it. The Feds seized all of the footage at the hospital that Charlie was brought to at Timpanogos. That doesn't make sense to me.
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Nothing makes sense to me in this whole story. So this is just kind of the icing on, you know, on the top here, not even the icing on the top. But why would they move to seize that footage? How is that going to help their investigation? What's happening inside of Timpanogos? How is that going to help their investigation? Their immediate boots on the ground investigation into who shot Charlie Kirk?
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They're trying. They're on a manhunt. Why are they going, OK, let's at first grab the footage at Timpanogos. Does that make sense?
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Were you worried? Did a nurse call 911 and say, oh, a guy just ran in here with a gun and you need to seize the footage because that's going to help you track him down?
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If that didn't happen, why are you seizing that footage? I don't know. With everything that is going on and I would say almost the lack of information that we have at Timpanogos, not a single person who captured them pulling up.
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Nothing, despite the fact that there were news cameras outside waiting, oddly from like a New York news channel.
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We have not seen anything regarding that we can build in competently on our timeline that would let us know what time in particular Charlie arrived at the hospital.
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And I feel like something's amiss if the feds moved to grab the footage inside of the hospital immediately and outside of the hospital immediately.
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So just putting it out there. If you maybe were somebody who has footage and saw that black SUV pull up at the hospital, please get that to us at moretipsatcandisowens.com because it's starting to bother me.
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Something there is starting to feel amiss. Everything's amiss.
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Anyway, there also happens to be another interesting constellation that's building here because, as I said at the top, there is something about this investigation into Charlie Kirk and who assassinated him that is causing extremely powerful people to panic.
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A network of powerful people. And by powerful people, I mean the feds, okay?
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I don't know about you, but I'm starting to wonder if every major publicly traumatizing event may have actually just been organized by the feds.
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And rather than blaming themselves, the strategy that they always employ is to get out a narrative, a sloppy narrative, like we saw this time with the Charlie Kirk assassination.
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That is one thing that I will say is so amazing.
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The only thing that has been amazing about the Charlie Kirk assassination is that it has brought the left and the right together.
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And what I mean by that is typically we're ready to take the fed slop.
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This time it was the messages, obviously, and they're like, oh, my dad's MAGA.
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And the left was supposed to go, see, it's his dad's fault. MAGA's bad.
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And then the right was supposed to go, look, he trans person bad.
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This time, though, we all went, this is too evil.
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That definitely, now that I'm reflecting and I am including myself in this, that was kind of my old vibe, left or right.
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That was definitely the vibe of January 6th, right?
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On January 6th, 2020, I can tell you where I was.
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I was nine months pregnant, my first child, and I was super MAGA at this time.
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I would have definitively gone to this soft, the steel rally, but I was just too pregnant to go.
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And I was living in D.C., so it was just down the street from me.
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And I reflect on that and I think, wow, that saved me because I could have been swept up in what happened on January 6th.
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And then afterward, people, quote unquote, storm the Capitol, break through the barriers, and there's an insurrection.
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And it's funny for me especially because I was right up the road as a resident of D.C., literally living there.
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I'm sitting on the couch with my husband and we start getting all these phone calls from my sisters and family members asking if we're okay.
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And we didn't have the news on and we're like, yeah, we're okay.
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And it was actually the first time that there was peace in D.C., meaning it was the summer of BLM riots.
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So it was strange that we never got called when people's cars were getting smashed and things were being burned to the ground.
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But suddenly we were getting phone calls because the media was there, you know, right there.
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And they were showing all this footage and it was out of place, right?
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Now, I knew instantly as a D.C. resident that the feds were involved because of the pipe bombs.
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I knew they were involved when I heard that pipe bombs were mysteriously dropped off the night before at the DNC headquarters, RNC headquarters.
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And we just don't know who did that because I live there and there it's I mean, it's it's the capital.
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You can't just get away from being a couple of blocks away from the White House and dropping off pipe bombs.
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Anyways, this weekend, after five long years, finally, the person and I'll say allegedly because I guess we're going to have to wait for the feds to dispute this.
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But the person responsible for dropping off those pipe bombs was revealed to be a fed.
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More specifically, a 31 year old woman and a United States Capitol police officer named Shawnee Ray Kirkuf.
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A man named a reporter named Steve Baker, which deserves all of the credit on this amazing discovery.
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And I'm going to let you listen to Glenn Beck, who is interviewing Steve Baker to tell you about how he came across this footage and how that went down.
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When I stumbled on what I stumbled on and because, as I said, I've been pulling these threads for years and I pulled one last Wednesday, a week, two weeks ago today, rather.
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I immediately took it to a source in one of the most important, highest level investigative federal agencies in the country.
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I immediately took it to our sources there and I said, you have to see this.
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After they looked at it for about two hours, the response that I got back was, holy F.
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And when you find out the position, I mean, this is going to lead, it's not just this one person.
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This now will implicate so many people at the highest levels that had to have known because of what happened after January 6th.
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I mean, it's it's this I mean, how big does this net get?
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I'm feeling this way about the Charlie Kirk investigation.
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A lot of people are going to get swept up in this investigation.
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Perhaps the same people that are going to get swept up in the January 6th.
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And it's not going to be this left or right story.
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I'm not here to cover all of January 6th and what they have been unpacking.
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What we do know is, like I said, this was a five year investigation.
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A CIA spokeswoman, Liz Lyon, stated that Shawnee Kirkhoff, the alleged person who dropped off these pipe bombs, worked in campus, Capitol Police, campus security.
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She is apparently now under the watch of law enforcement officers because the Blaze News editor in chief decided to pull up to her house to just kind of see if any action was happening at her home.
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And then he instantly got stopped by local police before they allowed him to leave.
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I think it's always the feds and we might be being ruled by criminals like, I don't know, Jeffrey Epstein, who?
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We're still talking about Jeffrey Epstein Trumpy.
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Now, if we are allowed to follow this idea that the feds are behind major politically divisive events, then we have to ask ourselves who exactly was behind organizing the Stop the Steal rally event itself.
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And interestingly enough, on the quote unquote Republican side, Christian Zionist pastors were heavily involved in not just influencing the public, right, understanding right away, telling the public, the Republicans that we had to fight for justice.
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They went out immediately following the following the election results.
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OK, I want you to remember this guy's name, Lance Walno.
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Immediately, just three days after the election of 2020, on November 6th, he publishes this onto his Facebook page.
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OK, it says we're going to expose the fraud and stop the steal.
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The Lord, our God, is with us and we were built for this battle.
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So that's three days after he's saying stop the steal.
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And Lance, who is a charismatic preacher, wasn't the only charismatic preacher or pastor that instantly threw their weight behind, quote unquote, stopping the steal.
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Actually, four out of the six protest permits that were issued on January 6th were issued to independent charismatic Christian groups.
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OK, 15 of these pastors and leaders surrounded Trump at the White House leading up to the January 6th Stop the Steal rally, telling him that the war was now spiritual.
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The new apostolic reformation drove the January 6th riots.
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So why was it overlooked by the House Select Committee, this person asks.
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Now you're thinking these names might sound familiar.
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Certainly, Sean Foyt, I brought him up to you regarding TPUS faith, who started to lead these events that they were having.
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Well, he is one of these NAR preachers, like I said, who came up with their seven mountain mandates.
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Get become very interested in the seven mountain mandate.
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I would say like he became mesmerized by the seven mountain mandate.
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I'm going to let you listen to Lance himself describe this seven mountain mandate in his own words.
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I want to talk to you for a moment about this concept called the 7M mandate.
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In reality, it started with a conversation I had in the year 2000.
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I had been talking to Lauren Cunningham, who's the founder of Youth with a Mission.
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And Lauren was sharing with me about a conversation he had had with Bill Bright.
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The two of them were visited, actually, by the Lord within the same 24 hours.
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And God spoke to them and said they had a message to give the other man.
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And the message was that there are seven molders of culture, or seven world kingdoms, and that
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he who could take those kingdoms could take the harvest of nations.
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I see those seven molders of culture as being the religion mountain, as a metaphor for something
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These are in no particular order of importance.
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They all represent the forces that shape societies and nations.
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government, media, art, which is the entertainment mountain, and business, which is where we have
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Now, these seven fields of influence are very powerful.
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So powerful, in fact, that he who occupies the top of those mountains can literally shape
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The foundation of the prosperity of nations is going to have to be the teaching.
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The good news is, you can do that covert, or you can do that overt.
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You can be, like I always say, you could actually be following that thing from Jehovah
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Rofi, Jehovah Nisi, Jehovah Sidkenu, or Jehovah Sneaky.
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Because God has a way of getting into positions, companies, businesses, nations, and communities
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Because the gospel is bigger than just the church mountain, it's the gospel that covers the
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So what he's describing there, and what they believe, is that there are new prophets, there
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are new apostles, they have the seven mountain mandate.
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And when he is speaking about covertly, he means that, okay?
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And he says, but before people even know, boom, he describes it as a devil, but before
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people know, boom, everyone around them is actually working for a higher purpose.
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Man, I got to say, kind of sort of reminds me of what happened to Charlie, right?
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Turning point faith, everywhere that I'm investigating, turning point faith keeps coming up.
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And there's a pattern that I'm noticing that a lot of these mainstream pastors and preachers
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actually come from high-ranking military families.
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High-ranking military families have been around for a long time.
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Rob McCoy, we discussed about his background, his naval background, psychological operations.
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They're literally named like a fleet of ships after his father.
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His father, Carl Wallnau, was a major in the United States Air Force, okay?
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After the war, he then continued his adventures as a field engineer for Standard Oil, okay?
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Building high-pressure liquid propane installations throughout political revolutions in the world.
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So he would go and do that in Haiti and Cuba, Dominican Republic, places I would argue that
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And before I tell you how he is very connected to Turning Point USA faith, I do want to also
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be clear that Frank Turek stands out because he flat out acknowledged on one of his podcasts
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that NAR was a cult, actually darker than a cult.
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Take a listen to what Frank Turek said about NAR.
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So technically a group, and NAR stands for what again?
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That's Bill Johnson out there in California, Northern California.
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But Word of Faith movement, they don't necessarily add, subtract, multiply, or divide, but they're
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The way they interpret the scriptures is aberrant.
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And they interpret the scriptures in such a way that their practice follows this aberrant
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And they wind up doing things that are more New Agey or more even occult-like than they are
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Now, Frank Turek, this didn't stop him, didn't, or it didn't make him go warn Charlie about
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this in any way as these people began to infiltrate his organization.
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And Lance Walno worked his way into Turning Point USA.
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I had a phone call with someone, by the way, who's extremely close to this current administration,
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and they said, completely offhandedly, we were not even really discussing Charlie, but
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then they said, you know, something that's really weird.
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She said, when did Turning Point become so faith-focused?
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She's like, I remember, obviously, Charlie always spoke about his evangelical faith.
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She's like, but when you guys were running around and starting all these Turning Point
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chapters, it was all about free markets and capitalism.
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And she was like, and I was at the rally, and it was suddenly faith, faith, faith, faith,
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And I said, you know, that is actually interesting.
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That is true, that it just kind of started, and then it was almost the biggest thing about
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Turning Point suddenly got super-dee-duper faithful with what I would say is an interesting
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What people don't know publicly is that Lance Wallnau was working with him, okay?
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He was intimately involved, and more importantly, he was financially involved.
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Sources within Turning Point's faith department tell me that Lance was running the show behind
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the scenes through funding, that he put a ton of money into Turning Point USA faith operations.
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Now, I guess a better way for me to state this, because I want to be super clear here,
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is that Lance Wallnau, who is from a military family and who is saying that he believes in
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infiltration as a means to climb mountains and overtake society, however he just described
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that, right, was privately directing large sums of money into Turning Point faith, okay?
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He's friends with Rob McCoy, and he eventually did tour stops with Turning Point faith, and
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I think, truly, as a society, that we need to start focusing our attention, okay, independently.
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Village Crazy Lady, I told you guys about Mel on X.
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She's been doing great work on this, but you need to start investigating this faith military
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We can call it the militant faith pipeline, because it's getting a little much for me.
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I mean, I told you guys, you start looking at that, and you wonder about other events
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There were a ton of conspiracies following October 1st, 2017, when the Las Vegas shooting
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And they told us that it was just a lone shooter, Stephen Paddock, some crazy guy who acted alone.
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Conspiracy theorists said it was a military operation, and there was a ton of evidence to support that,
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Fast forward a year later, on November 7th of 2018, and there's almost this, like, Las Vegas
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shooting hangover that happens in Thousand Oaks, California.
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Oddly, about 40 people who were at the Las Vegas shooting were all at the Borderline Bar one night,
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when a Marine, whose family knows Rob McCoy, well, Rob McCoy is friends with that Marine,
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decides to, that Marine's mother, decides to storm into a bar and conduct a mass shooting.
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And a victim of that bar shooting was a 27-year-old Navy veteran who had survived the Las Vegas
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So it just makes me wonder, was he a victim or was he a target, right?
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This is a headline from the BBC regarding the Las Vegas shooting, I'm sorry, the Thousand Oaks
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shooting at the Borderline Bar and Grill, the Las Vegas shooting survivor being among the dead.
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We're not getting answers to any of these questions, and they're telling everybody that these are
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It's always a conspiracy when you start questioning these fed narratives.
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One survivor said that the group of them were meeting up for a second time in about a year,
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having, I guess, like a little Las Vegas reunion, and that's why they were all there.
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The point being is, following this, a month after this, Rob McCoy then gets elected mayor
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And I'm just starting to ask a lot of questions about what is happening here, who is funding
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these groups, who is funding these pastors, who is funding these churches.
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We're getting a lot of weird stories about these churches that are coming out.
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I shared something over the weekend about Romanian sex trafficking on my X feed that is involving
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one of these churches, one of these big churches out in California.
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And I'm saying, it's time to start prodding the narrative, because I'm thinking that perhaps
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And like I said, and we are going to have some explosive stuff for you on Wednesday that we
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The faith element is compelling, and I am not convinced that these people that stand on stages
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and tell you to stop following Tucker Carlson are working on behalf of the Lord, okay?
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I think these people that are telling you that you are not allowed to question Israel or you're
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going to go to hell are not working on behalf of God.
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I think that they worship specific people with military ties.
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But there's a picture here that's emerging that we should not ignore.
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So there is definitely something going on here with these megachurches and these megapastors.
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And what I was just referring to in the monologue was in California, where a lot of these megachurches
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are, there's been another megachurch pastor that was accused of trafficking children.
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They have trafficking children from Romania, of all places.
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And that former megachurch pastor, I'm going to give you his name here, Paul Havsgaard, right?
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Again, this element of missionary going around the world on these missions.
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I just, something is just stinking to high heaven.
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And I don't particularly love the reaction that we're seeing from Christian Zionists right
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I don't even know how to describe what is happening over in Christian Zionist land.
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There's anger, there's tears, there's frustration, there's fatigue, there's defeat.
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And of course, there's biblical scripture, right?
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When my show hit number one globally last week, it was just an all-out virtual war.
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He obviously just tweets a verse trying to make it seem like, again, this is what they
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They will find a verse to be petty and use scripture to justify who they really, they just
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And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?
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Like, that's not like that is, are you out of your mind?
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I had to literally build from scratch because I was rejected everywhere.
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You shut down, you went after my sponsors, you emailed people, you got me banned from
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I didn't sell my soul and I said what was right about what was happening in Gaza.
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Joel Berry, who also is at the Babylon Bee, some real funny guys, wrote this.
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In the last year, Candace and Tucker have given our side nothing but demoralization, division,
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Their impact on the right has been devastating.
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They've made us weaker and they've won nothing except clicks and ad revenue for themselves.
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I've never been on the same side as Joel Berry.
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I am never on the side of people that cheer on kids being killed and churches being bombed
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and insinuate, as he did, that even the Christians in Gaza aren't really human beings and that
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they're all supporting Hamas, which is basically justifying a genocide, right?
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Obviously, last week we watched Ben press Megan on stage.
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Very strange to see him do something like that.
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To see him just lie and try to pressure her with the lie.
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And it was also on the day that it was announced that this podcast was number one globally.
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I responded on my show with the truth, showed you screenshots of what Charlie had said, said,
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told you honestly that he had kind of prevented Charlie from coming up.
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And then some guy named Frank McCormick on X started circulating.
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And then, of course, I instantly made a trend that I forged the text messages, right?
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And I was just going to be so risky and throw these text messages up and just lie
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Candace Owens recently posted what she claims are more text messages from Charlie Kirk.
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He analyzed the bubble design, the profile placement, the header layout, font, spacing,
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And he discovered that these were digitally fabricated.
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You could just ask me to show you the messages.
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Wait, Skylar, can you tell me in my ear what did the message even say?
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You probably want to see the date here and see the time sliding.
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It is what Christ talked about as true partnership, reliant yet separate.
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But each side gets stronger and sharper because of the other.
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What an absolute nonsense to think that I would make up text messages.
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I don't even know what would be the point of that.
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I was very clear at the beginning of this entire thing.
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You know, I ask that if you, you know, didn't get along with Charlie, you don't think that
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you could just drop a million dollars and then rewrite history.
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Also, to build upon that, I saw a clip of Ali Stuckey, who I very much like.
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I'm very surprised she's working with Alyssa Cordova.
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And she kind of, I guess, I don't know when this live was taken, presumably over the last
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Said to people that we shouldn't be asking these questions about the Charlie Kirk assassination.
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Anyways, I'm not going to put words in them off.
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I'm just really tired of some of y'all not thinking.
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You say that you're seeking truth and asking questions, but you're actually just outsourcing
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your critical thinking and your question asking to someone else.
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Or what is the alternative explanation for that?
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Or are these two things actually connected by evidence?
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And if you were implicating a real person in a murder plot, you better be 100% sure that
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The thoughts we think and the words we say not only affect real people's lives, but they
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I'm going to take that seriously, but you should too.
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I've just been wrestling with this so much over the past few weeks.
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I don't have the time and energy that it takes to go through, to make all of these claims
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But then to go through and debunk all of these claims, I don't have that time.
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Look, Allie, I just think she should take a break.
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I genuinely didn't even know she was going through it like this.
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I don't think we asked her for any assistance at all, actually.
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I did all the work, and people sent me stuff, and then we put together a timeline.
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And here's what I want to say, because you're saying it's real life.
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That was Charlie's real life when you saw him sitting there and he got shot.
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So I feel like that's the part you're missing, because you're so worried about the surrounding
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cast of characters who have been literally caught lying.
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We didn't just randomly pluck people up from obscurity, okay?
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These are people who said, he had blood on him.
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He was so amazing, but he walked away from Charlie as he was bleeding out.
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So that's what's on the line right here, is he's not here anymore.
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I'm actually worried, and I want to know what happened to Charlie Kirk, okay?
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And why I feel like you and so many Christian Zionists just kind of wanted to turn him into
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a ghost, like, you know, Charlie the Friendly Ghost, and are not interested at all.
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And if you're looking for real life Agatha Christie stuff, in real life, people's necks don't stop
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In real life, when you spend millions of dollars on security, on your security detail, they don't
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have you sitting like a sitting duck and forget to have an ambulance behind you.
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In real life, I worked for Turning Point USA, and I know what does not make sense in terms
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of the timeline of how this event came together.
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And in real life, if somebody suspects you in a murder for any reason whatsoever, and you
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can put something out publicly that will clarify a fact that isn't correct, if you say it's not
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In four seconds, I would say, oh, this is, oh, the reason why I was on the phone with
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So people are following their instincts because they should, but I just want to remind you
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because it bothers me that that was Charlie's real life.
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And we're not the only people that are stressed out because apparently Grok is stressed out because
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it can't keep up with the lies that are being spread about me.
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And sitting in his car, I'm just going to show you what Grok said at the top here.
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Candace Owens accuses Turning Point USA of Charlie Kirk assassination role.
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And then it says, Candace Owens alleged Turning Point USA orchestrated the October 15th, 2025
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assassination of its founder, Charlie Kirk in Phoenix, Arizona, by former volunteer Marcus
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Hale, who police say acted alone with no evidence.
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Ben Shapiro publicly condemned Owens' claims as evil.
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And then, yeah, it's just none of this is real.
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Like, you guys are exhausting, not just Ali Stucky, you're exhausting Grok.
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If you don't have time to look at the facts and see what we've come up with, and that's fine.
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That's when everybody I know that, Grok, Ali, everyone, you are not required to take part in this.
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And I just sense, I just sense that we're getting close.
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And when I tell you on Wednesday what we discovered about those Egyptian military planes,
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I think some more people are going to be on the run.
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Anyways, the oddest response came from Mark Levin, who has been kind of psychopathically obsessed
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He was very happy when Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox News.
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And regarding Mark Levin, if a person was actually like,
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you should move to Israel because it would make you happy, happier,
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if that was a person, that would be Mark Levin, okay?
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Turning Point USA, credit to them, said we are not canceling Tucker Carlson,
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despite the peer pressure, despite them sending out every queen and pawn on the board to make that happen.
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And not only is he speaking, but why don't you debate Mark Levin?
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And I'm actually going to roll the whole thing.
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It's about two and a half minutes, but I want you guys to listen to him.
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I got a very strange text this morning from Tucker Carlson.
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See, the leadership at Turning Point has asked me to debate you at their event in Scottsdale in December.
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I'm happy to do it, and I hope you'll agree as well.
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Beyond the personal insults, which I'll try to keep to a minimum,
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there are real and important ideological differences between us.
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And I think the country would benefit from an extended conversation about them.
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People are awakening to what scum he actually is.
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He thinks I'm going to help him kick up his podcast ratings?
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What you've become, your vile liables against my faith,
00:40:49.820
I debate people with whom I disagree for a living,
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Stop long enough to remember who you used to be
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assuming you believe your positions are defensible.
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Is it possible you can't really defend, for example,
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while he's serving President Trump on his second tour
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Like, why wouldn't you readily accept that debate?
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that you don't want to platform Tucker Carlson.
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So if she ever wants to come with this podcast,
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And I just feel like they sent a very real threat
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that I have finally caught the final Pokemon ball.
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in terms of the names I get called in the media,
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And I didn't think there was anything left for me to grab,
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are somehow tied to following your instructions.
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I'm just trying to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk.
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And she has now watched 10 episodes of this show.
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and she has determined that if you are interested
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and what I am uncovering about Charlie Kirk's assassination,
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I think she is exhibiting several cult tactics.
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and a lot of cluster B personality disorder behavior.
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but apparently it's not easy for some people, I guess.
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they haven't been through that before with someone.
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who are just hanging on every word and following it.
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You're obviously not going to be happy with this episode
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they used to put a lot of trust in Candace Owens
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I can't be the only person that's really stressed out
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that is, I don't like the way those books are at all.
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whenever you don't follow the federal narrative,
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Like the dark triad traits, Machiavellian, narcissistic.
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we're not getting people to behave and listen to us.
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the signs that I was in a cult and about seven of them.
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Um, and I would say that this is sounding a lot like my toddlers
00:48:47.620
And the government telling you to violate that,
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is the left and the right coming together, right?
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This is like the thing that they have to prevent
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I'm talking about the military-industrial complex,
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why Tucker and I have become threat number one,