Candace Owens - Okay…These Text Messages Are Crazy! ｜ Candace Ep 307

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00:00:23.600 Okay, you guys, I'm sorry that I'm running late today.

00:00:25.800 Just so much that I wanted to cover for our last show.

00:00:30.000 Before we go off air next week, preparing for our limited Erica Kirk series.

00:00:34.280 Now, we had received a large influx of emails because Baron Coleman

00:00:38.380 had a bit of a viral episode regarding a seemingly weird relationship

00:00:44.300 that Erica had with a then 15-year-old girl named Jillian.

00:00:49.120 Erica was 25 years old at the time,

00:00:51.600 and they developed a relationship that some people believe

00:00:54.880 amounted to a type of grooming.

00:00:57.620 Baron Coleman was very clear.

00:00:59.140 He gave specific instructions to his viewers

00:01:01.420 not to reach out to Jillian, who is now an adult, about the situation.

00:01:07.100 And I, for some reason, was unable to follow these simple instructions.

00:01:10.200 I reached out to her immediately.

00:01:11.380 I don't know what's wrong with me.

00:01:13.060 But I had a great chat with her about her dynamic with Erica.

00:01:15.900 So, welcome back to Candice.

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00:01:54.560 Okay, so today, obviously, like I said,

00:01:56.420 is our last episode before we take a week off air,

00:01:59.600 pulling things together for our Erica Kirk biographical series.

00:02:03.740 Working title, Fatal Attraction?

00:02:05.780 I'm kidding.

00:02:06.800 I'm kidding.

00:02:07.260 Maybe I'm kidding.

00:02:07.960 We don't know.

00:02:08.340 Speaking of a Fatal Attraction,

00:02:10.920 something that has been doing the rounds on social media,

00:02:15.300 thanks to, first and foremost, a YouTuber by the name of Nisey.

00:02:19.220 So, full credit to Nisey. 0.97

00:02:20.660 And then, of course, Baron Coleman picked it up.

00:02:22.500 I love it.

00:02:22.860 We're all just pooling information.

00:02:24.920 And here we are.

00:02:25.840 It's regarding this relationship that Erica had over,

00:02:30.300 it looks like, social media.

00:02:31.660 A lot of it played out over social media.

00:02:34.260 And I'm just going to actually cut to Nisey here, 1.00

00:02:36.660 who's going to unpack it for you.

00:02:39.000 And to give you a little bit of background,

00:02:41.040 it's 2013,

00:02:42.920 and therefore Erica has just completed her year as Miss Arizona,

00:02:49.360 and she's 25 years old at the time.

00:02:51.500 Erica is.

00:02:52.020 And now you're going to learn how she met Jillian.

00:02:54.900 Take a listen.

00:02:56.660 Back in 2013, Erica was 25 years old,

00:02:59.680 and she was in a relationship with a basketball player named Joshua Harrelson.

00:03:03.800 So, at the time, he was living in Michigan,

00:03:06.060 and Erica moved out there to be with him.

00:03:08.700 On the evening of September 15, 2013,

00:03:11.580 Joshua Harrelson and Erica met a 15-year-old girl named Jillian Falcon.

00:03:16.180 And I know this because Jillian tweeted about it.

00:03:18.700 At 3.53pm, Jillian tweeted that she was out for sushi with her friend,

00:03:22.880 and two hours later, she tweeted,

00:03:24.480 just met Miss Arizona and Josh Harrelson, heart eyes emoji.

00:03:28.180 Now, I'm not sure if Jillian coincidentally bumped into Erica and Joshua or if they were introduced.

00:03:34.380 What I do know is that Jillian had a friend,

00:03:37.880 and the friend's grandparents were renting a home to Erica in Michigan.

00:03:42.840 So, I'm not entirely sure if all of these people just bumped into each other coincidentally at the sushi restaurant or if they were formally introduced.

00:03:50.460 But nonetheless, they met, and Erica struck up what I view as a very odd relationship with the 15-year-old girl named Jillian.

00:03:58.820 So, I can help clarify, I can build on that.

00:04:02.480 Like I said, I spoke with Jillian, and that information, part of that information is very accurate.

00:04:07.240 It was about payment for rent, and that is how Jillian meets Erica Kirk. 0.98

00:04:13.680 She opens the door, she's presumably living with or visiting her boyfriend at the time,

00:04:21.640 and she sees Erica Kirk, and she thinks,

00:04:24.240 oh my gosh, this girl, 25-year-old girl is so beautiful,

00:04:28.180 and Erica is extremely kind to her, and they start speaking.

00:04:32.200 And somehow, and Jillian does not recall how this transpired,

00:04:34.680 somehow, during this rent arrangement, Erica and her exchange numbers, okay?

00:04:43.260 So, what happens next is they begin messaging each other,

00:04:46.540 a texting relationship, and across social media,

00:04:50.360 making comments on each other, one another's posts.

00:04:53.020 And in the beginning, it seems fine enough, I guess.

00:04:55.080 The conversation is polite,

00:04:57.020 maybe something that you might expect to see between someone

00:05:00.180 who has some level of notoriety or fame,

00:05:03.500 and one of their fans over social media,

00:05:06.140 but then it picks up, just as Nicey indicates it.

00:05:08.780 It picks up, and I'm going to allow you to listen to her

00:05:14.040 explain what then transpires.

00:05:15.980 And I would also, again, like to reinforce the fact

00:05:19.380 that this girl, Jillian, is 15 years old, and Erica is 25.

00:05:24.820 It's worth mentioning that.

00:05:26.460 At this point in her biography,

00:05:28.020 Erica is also working with sex trafficking charities.

00:05:32.840 This is that year where she says that she got involved

00:05:35.980 with a sex trafficking charity over in China.

00:05:38.920 I'll have more for you on that next week,

00:05:41.000 but take it away, Nicey.

00:05:43.980 On February 13th, 2014,

00:05:46.640 Jillian replied to one of Erica's tweets by saying,

00:05:49.460 at Erica Franzvi, gorgeous as always.

00:05:51.960 A few hours later, she then tweeted,

00:05:53.660 why did at Erica Franzvi just send me this?

00:05:57.160 Laughing emoji.

00:05:58.260 And there is a photo which says, 0.99

00:06:00.580 this Valentine's Day, I am going to touch your butt. 1.00

00:06:03.640 Jillian posted this tweet on March 6th, 2014. 0.98

00:06:06.880 So Erica says, let me call you, hold on, sweetheart. 0.97

00:06:10.240 Give me a sex. 0.99

00:06:11.300 Wow. 0.99

00:06:11.940 And then Jillian says, okay, and puts laughing emojis.

00:06:15.060 Erica then says, sec. 1.00

00:06:16.820 Sex too, but not from you, lol. 1.00

00:06:19.200 Holy s***, laughing emoji. 0.99

00:06:20.880 You always make me laugh. 0.96

00:06:22.040 I don't bat for the other team just yet.

00:06:24.500 On March 13th, 2014, Jillian shared another screenshot of her text messages with Erica.

00:06:30.960 Erica says, I forgot to tell you, hydrate tonight.

00:06:34.720 No alcohol.

00:06:35.660 And don't eat a lot of salty foods.

00:06:37.800 You don't want to look bloated.

00:06:39.880 Jillian then responds, thank you.

00:06:41.720 Erica says, no alcohol.

00:06:43.120 Really, Erica?

00:06:44.240 Age recognition, you twat waffle. 0.86

00:06:46.340 Apparently, I haven't had my coffee yet. 0.99

00:06:48.960 What the hell, Erica? 0.76

00:06:49.900 Laughing emoji. 0.98

00:06:50.840 Well, on that bite, dot dot dot, note. 1.00

00:06:54.040 Damn you, Siri. 1.00

00:06:55.220 Come on. 1.00

00:06:55.920 Hashtag the struggle.

00:06:57.160 What are you trying to say, laughing emoji? 0.93

00:06:59.060 Spit it out, you twat waffle. 0.99

00:07:00.360 On the morning of March 26th, 2014, Jillian tweeted, I just want to be somebody's woman

00:07:05.960 crush Wednesday.

00:07:06.920 Is that too much to ask?

00:07:08.360 That evening, she then tweets, thank you, at Erica Franzvi, for making my whole week.

00:07:13.180 And she shares this photo, and the photo is of a gnome, and it says, I want to be inside

00:07:19.380 your lady garden.

00:07:20.660 Gnome saying, on April 3rd, 2014, Jillian tweeted this picture and said, I miss this goon.

00:07:26.680 A few minutes later, she tweeted, did Erica just text me, hashtag no new friends?

00:07:31.680 Oh my f***ing God, I can't.

00:07:33.280 A few days later, on April 5th, 2014, Jillian posted this tweet. 0.87

00:07:38.100 Getting this in the mail from Erica Franzvi.

00:07:40.420 And in the photo is a red box of chocolate-covered strawberries and other chocolate desserts.

00:07:45.280 And the card in the photo says this, happy sweet 16, beautiful girl.

00:07:49.120 Keep strong in faith and know that you're loved.

00:07:51.220 But most of all, never forget that you are perfect and amazing just the way you are.

00:07:55.600 I am so proud of you.

00:07:56.900 Today is the first day of another 365-day journey around the sun.

00:08:01.600 Enjoy the trip, boo.

00:08:02.780 Love you, E.

00:08:03.680 On June 7th, 2014, Jillian shared this tweet.

00:08:07.100 This has to be the most heartfelt compliment I've ever gotten.

00:08:10.200 And she attached a screenshot of her conversation with Erica.

00:08:13.900 So Jillian says, thank you.

00:08:15.740 Erica says, you have the most stunning features.

00:08:18.580 Jillian says, best compliment ever.

00:08:20.900 Erica says, your eyes, your lips, your skin, you're absolutely beautiful.

00:08:26.540 Jillian responds with the crying emoji, you're making me cry.

00:08:29.780 In February of 2014, Jillian went on a family trip to Puerto Rico.

00:08:33.980 And Erica was liking and commenting on her Instagram posts.

00:08:37.360 So Jillian posted this photo of the beach.

00:08:39.480 And Erica says, unreal gorgeous.

00:08:41.900 And then Jillian responds, this is by far my favorite picture I took.

00:08:45.160 My mom wants to get it blown up at Erica Franzvi. 0.98

00:08:48.120 Erica responds, I could see why, boo.

00:08:50.240 Jillian responds, so perfect, at Erica Franzvi.

00:08:53.620 Erica then responds, dot, dot, dot, yes, I know you are.

00:09:01.040 I'm just going to follow that with a little bit of silence.

00:09:03.300 I just want us to all contemplate it.

00:09:06.960 Let's actually contemplate it for the people who are going to try to explain it.

00:09:11.540 The Erica-splainers.

00:09:12.720 Who are going to be like, that's not weird.

00:09:14.940 No.

00:09:15.660 What?

00:09:15.980 Never been a 25-year-old sending chocolate-covered strawberries to a 15-year-old.

00:09:22.020 That's not weird.

00:09:22.860 You guys are haters.

00:09:25.340 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:09:26.360 You've never, as a 25-year-old, decided to message a 15-year-old about their lips and their skin

00:09:34.940 and how perfect they are.

00:09:37.840 You never decided to message them when they posted a photo of them with a person that's

00:09:42.300 their age and said, no new friends.

00:09:45.340 Almost like territorial.

00:09:46.860 That's obviously all just a joke or something like that.

00:09:49.320 By the way, just in general, going back to how they met, I'm trying to rationalize in my head.

00:09:54.040 Under what scenario, if a 15-year-old, if you open the door and a 15-year-old was there,

00:09:58.720 would you exchange numbers with them?

00:10:01.280 Like, I'm trying to rationalize that.

00:10:02.540 Maybe if they were with their parents and they were like, the parents were like,

00:10:06.740 he was looking for a job.

00:10:07.760 Like, I don't know if you need like a babysitter.

00:10:10.460 You guys want to go to dinner for a couple of hours, sort of a thing, maybe.

00:10:14.640 But I'd probably take the parents' number.

00:10:16.540 Yeah, I would definitely take the parents' number.

00:10:17.500 I actually can't rationalize that.

00:10:19.540 So I'm throwing that out because sometimes people in the chat can be more creative than me.

00:10:23.460 And they can say, oh, no, it's totally normal to exchange numbers to the 15-year-olds

00:10:26.220 and then kind of have this relationship with them.

00:10:31.360 Or you're commenting and saying, making lesbian jokes.

00:10:35.980 I don't, you know, swing for the next team yet.

00:10:38.600 Is that appropriate to say to a 15-year-old when you're 25?

00:10:42.060 Come on.

00:10:42.800 Where are my Erica-splainers in the chat?

00:10:46.120 I want to hear it.

00:10:47.060 It's a time to be alive.

00:10:48.300 If, you know, everyone's explaining Jeffrey Epstein and all of his friends.

00:10:51.140 Go ahead.

00:10:51.480 Go for it.

00:10:52.020 I think it's fine.

00:10:53.060 Go ahead.

00:10:53.440 I want to hear it.

00:10:55.320 There's so much that disturbs me about that.

00:10:59.440 But again, I, when I first was going, everything is wrong here.

00:11:03.140 That's my natural intuition.

00:11:04.860 I didn't want to then extrapolate and jump to conclusions until I spoke with Jillian.

00:11:09.560 On the off chance that maybe it is my personal senses, having learned everything about Erica's

00:11:15.800 background, maybe my personal senses about Erica might be clouding my judgment.

00:11:19.220 Maybe there was a perfectly reasonable explanation for that sort of relationship.

00:11:24.060 Maybe she really is just such an amazing person by the time she's 25 years old, such a strong

00:11:32.880 and faithful Christian that she wants a 15-year-old to feel sexy or something.

00:11:39.180 I also want to note that this particular 15-year-old at this time, what we know based off of Jillian's

00:11:46.800 tweets, is that she doesn't have a father in her life.

00:11:49.600 Okay.

00:11:49.900 She tweeted this in June of 2014.

00:11:52.460 I haven't seen my dad over two years.

00:11:55.220 The reason why I want to point that out is because Charlie Kirk and I did a lot on the

00:12:01.040 road discussing father absence and how these teenagers and children are instantly more vulnerable

00:12:07.520 to tons of things, getting involved in the wrong networks, criminal activity.

00:12:12.480 You need a father in the home.

00:12:13.620 So I just find it interesting that it's a good fact to know about this girl at this time.

00:12:17.860 Maybe her father's in her life since.

00:12:19.140 I don't know.

00:12:20.080 I didn't ask her.

00:12:21.560 But I told you I called her.

00:12:22.540 I instantly reached out because sometimes I just can't follow instructions the right

00:12:25.900 way.

00:12:26.580 And I asked her about how she felt about it.

00:12:29.720 10 years removed from a situation.

00:12:31.440 And she responded exactly how you might expect.

00:12:35.400 She said at the time as a 15-year-old, she was blown away by this amazingly beautiful,

00:12:41.480 older, semi-famous person that was giving her all of this attention.

00:12:48.160 And for clarity, I am completely empathetic to that position and experience.

00:12:52.020 As a younger girl, obviously, I correlated to how I felt.

00:12:55.280 I think I've told you guys in the past about Christina Aguilera when she first dropped.

00:12:59.240 And then I was obsessed with her when I was 13, 14 years old.

00:13:03.260 My mom put me on punishment because I was so obsessed with Christina Aguilera.

00:13:05.980 Christina Aguilera, at that point in my life, maybe if my mom had not punished me for idolatry,

00:13:10.820 but at that point in my life, I'm racing home to watch TRL because I got to make sure she's

00:13:16.100 number one.

00:13:16.460 If Christina Aguilera had then given me tons of attention, I'd be like, oh, I can't even believe

00:13:21.380 this.

00:13:21.840 Christina Aguilera is giving me attention.

00:13:24.200 She probably could have manipulated me into a lot of things because my brain would not

00:13:28.840 have been developed.

00:13:29.580 This is normal tween to early teen emotions and passion.

00:13:35.120 And it's precisely, if you track my work, when it's always been my biggest gripe with

00:13:39.420 Taylor Swift, even though I like her music, it's because I find that she harnesses the power

00:13:44.340 of that tween emotion to get business deals done.

00:13:48.080 Yet she's 36. 0.91

00:13:49.000 Anyway, I digress.

00:13:50.100 That's the point of that.

00:13:51.080 We know that they're reactive, they're emotional, and her fans will kill somebody if they have 0.81

00:13:55.500 to, right?

00:13:57.460 But hindsight is 20-20, as we always say.

00:13:59.800 And Jillian today is now 27 years old, and she fully appreciates how absolutely weird

00:14:05.160 this was and how absolutely weird it is.

00:14:07.340 And she's going back, and she is wondering, what exactly was this all about?

00:14:11.920 What exactly was Erica harnessing her teenage emotion for?

00:14:18.640 Why is she continually telling her that she's beautiful, that she has perfect lips?

00:14:25.140 Why is this 25-year-old, who's not even from Michigan, interested in this dialogue with her?

00:14:32.320 And something she points out is, I was with my friend when I met her, but she never had this

00:14:36.160 relationship with Cheyenne.

00:14:38.480 Cheyenne is mentioned elsewhere in that video.

00:14:40.400 Why was it particularly Jillian that she was interested in?

00:14:44.880 And curiously, get this.

00:14:47.240 She tells me that she and Erica actually never hung out in person beyond that first meeting.

00:14:54.040 So this was purely meant to be an electronic, a platonic relationship where Erica said stuff

00:15:00.680 even like this to her on Instagram.

00:15:03.000 Jillian, that dime piece beside the car, though, she's referring to Jillian, just so you,

00:15:09.600 just so we're clear, she's referring to Jillian beside a car as a dime piece.

00:15:15.140 Again, if this was two 15-year-olds speaking to each other, I'd be like, that's totally fine.

00:15:20.080 I actually tend to agree with Nicy's assessment elsewhere in the video.

00:15:26.000 Just put in your mind this is a 25-year-old man referring to a 15-year-old girl.

00:15:29.320 What would happen?

00:15:31.900 What would you be thinking?

00:15:34.200 And again, Erica did not actually hang out with her beyond that.

00:15:37.640 So what exactly was her stated goal?

00:15:39.280 Well, I can at least tell you what that last weird text exchange was about, the one where

00:15:45.300 Erica tells her not to drink and to suck her stomach in tonight, wherever they're going 0.93

00:15:50.880 tonight. 0.99

00:15:51.480 People assume that they had gone somewhere together.

00:15:53.740 But no, that exchange is actually in reference to Erica then having sent this 15-year-old

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00:16:33.000 Insane.

00:16:33.640 She sent this 15-year-old to have photos taken.

00:16:36.100 She's helping her because she's just so beautiful get into maybe some modeling. 1.00

00:16:40.880 That's at least how she presented it to her.

00:16:42.880 So after telling her how beautiful and perfect her lips were, she then sets her up with a

00:16:47.780 photographer, a friend of Erica's.

00:16:49.460 Erica, she says, arranged the entire thing.

00:16:52.880 This person she had only met once, then after maybe love bombing her, we describe it, then

00:16:58.840 sends her to meet up with this male photographer.

00:17:01.680 And Jillian said that this photographer was kind of creepy.

00:17:04.020 She's trying to remember his name.

00:17:05.140 She says she remembers it began with an R.

00:17:06.720 And he was kind of shorter, chubbier.

00:17:10.640 And yeah, I'd say, yeah, Jillian, that's pretty creepy.

00:17:14.640 Any photographer who is taking photos of a 15-year-old without their parents' consent is a creep.

00:17:23.880 Find me.

00:17:24.760 I am looking to find and discover who this person was.

00:17:29.840 And I would also similarly say that any person who is arranging for photographs to be taken of a 15-year-old girl without explicit permission from that person's mother is a total creep.

00:17:45.800 So Erica, having done this, is completely and utterly creepy.

00:17:48.360 It's creepy.

00:17:48.840 It makes no sense.

00:17:50.960 It makes no sense.

00:17:51.660 I will not allow people to say that it makes sense in some context.

00:17:54.920 Like, it just doesn't make any sense.

00:17:55.980 I asked, did she speak to your mother?

00:17:57.540 She said, no, she never spoke to my mother.

00:17:58.760 This was happening on the phone.

00:18:01.660 Her mom's probably thinking she's just on Instagram, speaking to whoever, and she's not even considering that this is happening.

00:18:08.060 So what does all of this sound like?

00:18:10.980 It sounds to me like every parent's worst nightmare.

00:18:13.140 Your kid has a phone.

00:18:14.740 They get social media accounts.

00:18:16.600 They're making friends over the internet.

00:18:17.940 And the next thing you know, you find out that there's a man at night, if Erica's message is to be believed, who's taking photos of them.

00:18:27.740 So I'll ask the question, the obvious question here.

00:18:29.880 How much smoke before we are allowed to confirm that it seems there may be a fire?

00:18:38.040 Because everything in Erica Kirk's story, which we will more thoroughly present to you in the weeks to come, has proximity to child trafficking scandals and proximity to charities and involvement with charities that had trafficking scandals and abuse scandals.

00:18:54.360 Sometimes literal proximity, by the way.

00:18:56.400 Like, I think I've mentioned this, Turning Point USA's headquarters, incredibly, maybe I haven't mentioned it, they're almost directly across the street from the number one human and child sex trafficking location in Arizona, a place called Arizona Mills.

00:19:11.460 If you're in Arizona, everyone goes, oh, yeah, I know what that is.

00:19:13.080 Everybody knows about Arizona Mills.

00:19:14.860 Who picked this location for a student activist organization?

00:19:18.740 Who is the real estate agent agent on that deal?

00:19:22.260 I feel like when a good real estate agent comes around, you're like, oh, is this a good spot?

00:19:25.880 And they'd say, you know what, you don't want to be close to Arizona Mills.

00:19:28.760 That's no, it's not a great spot for a student activist organization.

00:19:32.200 Was Erica the real estate agent?

00:19:34.340 And actually, I do know who handpicked it.

00:19:36.680 I was around for that.

00:19:37.300 It was Tyler Boyer.

00:19:37.940 He's like a proud fifth generation, I think he says, Arizonan.

00:19:42.800 He grew up in its backyard, Chandler Gilbert area.

00:19:46.280 So I'm going to go ahead and assume that he was familiar with the reputation of Arizona Mills.

00:19:52.640 Tracy Martin, Erica's best friend.

00:19:54.720 She's also has been involved in charity work for trafficking victims via Dream City Church, which we mentioned to you.

00:20:01.260 And that actually makes sense because Dream City Church runs Phoenix Dream Center.

00:20:07.820 Phoenix Dream Center, according to their website, is a center that provides residential rehabilitation, shelter and care for victims of human trafficking.

00:20:18.880 Wow.

00:20:19.180 Everyone is so amazing.

00:20:21.040 So amazing.

00:20:22.540 They just can't get enough of trying to help these trafficking victims.

00:20:25.580 It says that they provide affordable housing for men and women that are in transition having after having been trafficked.

00:20:32.640 They give them food.

00:20:33.560 They give them clothing.

00:20:35.080 Nothing to see there.

00:20:36.360 It's a charity.

00:20:37.260 You can't question a charity.

00:20:38.380 Turning Point USA is a charity.

00:20:39.220 You can't question a charity.

00:20:41.320 Stacey Sheridan, who has been playing the role of Erica Kirk's mother, we recently discovered, worked under Jeffrey Epstein's friend, Kenneth Starr at Pepperdine University.

00:20:52.620 By the way, I can't find a trace of her actually at Pepperdine University, aside from her resume where she says she worked there for eight years, but in Kenneth Starr's office.

00:21:03.820 But the point is, is that for almost a decade, she worked for Kenneth Starr at the exact same time that he was working with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:21:13.560 Okay.

00:21:14.640 But Stacey Sheridan is not Erica's real mom.

00:21:16.740 Lori is Erica's real mother.

00:21:18.260 We had mentioned to you this desert spirit tech company that she was running, Lori was running, on a Native American reservation.

00:21:25.880 And boy, were we hit with a lot of emails about, you guessed it, high instances of children and girls being trafficked off of that specific reservation where the office is not located because somebody went.

00:21:42.960 And they said, this address does not exist.

00:21:44.220 But all of that, by the way, we'll get into in the weeks to come.

00:21:48.760 In the short term, we can confirm that this just must be all one unfortunate coincidence, right?

00:21:55.300 All of it. 0.99

00:21:55.940 You are a monster, by the way, for even noticing this. 0.99

00:22:00.440 For even noticing this theme. 0.99

00:22:02.080 You are a monster for wondering if Charlie also began to notice this theme in the end.

00:22:08.480 Because what exactly happened the night before he died? 0.90

00:22:12.980 Why was Erica being so weird about providing a sensible alibi for her whereabouts on September 8th? 0.76

00:22:18.660 Why did nobody see her when somebody else believes they did see her at Fort Huachuca?

00:22:25.360 Speaking of September 8th, by the way, it's also an important date to flag.

00:22:28.280 I think it's a little weird, but it's a fact that Erica chose that date in particular to break her years-long Twitter silence.

00:22:37.720 Did you know this?

00:22:38.300 Erica had not authored a tweet since 2023, right?

00:22:42.580 She had retweeted a couple of things.

00:22:44.060 Who knows if somebody did it for her?

00:22:45.800 But she herself had not authored a tweet.

00:22:47.340 Suddenly, 48 hours before Charlie's death, on September 8th, at 1049 a.m. Arizona time,

00:22:54.840 she decides to break that silence with this tweet, scripture.

00:22:59.220 Ephesians 2.8, where by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing.

00:23:04.780 It is the gift of God, not a result of work, so that no one may boast, okay?

00:23:08.900 And suddenly, she then was on a roll.

00:23:10.160 She then tweeted again on September 9th, 944 a.m. local time.

00:23:14.340 She tweeted, oh, taste and see that the Lord is good.

00:23:17.880 Blessed is the man that takes refuge in him.

00:23:22.020 And then again, on the day that Charlie is assassinated at 945 a.m. Arizona time,

00:23:28.040 which is an hour and a half, okay, an hour and a half before he's killed,

00:23:31.520 Erica tweets, God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

00:23:37.540 People ram, like, wow, I can't believe this.

00:23:39.240 This godly woman happened to have tweeted this right before her husband got assassinated. 1.00

00:23:44.340 Like I said, you're a monster for noticing. 0.90

00:23:49.240 If you're thinking that that, like, no, she just really did suddenly want to break her Twitter silence. 0.55

00:23:53.660 And she's very, as we can see, she is committed to the Lord.

00:23:58.060 Every sentence, every sentence that comes out is about God.

00:24:01.120 So how could you question it, right?

00:24:04.120 Anyway, before we go off air for next week,

00:24:06.360 I want to be thorough and, again, put out an APB for certain information.

00:24:12.520 So a couple of things before we get into what we're looking for at more tips at CandaceSones.com.

00:24:17.840 The reason Jillian is speaking to me is because she's asking people to stop messaging her.

00:24:22.540 She doesn't want all these people messaging her.

00:24:23.580 She's like, I'm already in communication with you.

00:24:25.300 We're trying to figure things out.

00:24:26.580 We're trying to figure out who this photographer was that took photographs of her.

00:24:30.380 We're on it.

00:24:31.460 We're on the case.

00:24:32.180 So you guys don't no longer have to slide in her DMs or hunt her down.

00:24:36.440 I am fully on this and we'll have more information for you, I suspect, in the coming week.

00:24:42.660 And now pertaining to what we're looking for, please email moretipsatcandaceowens.com.

00:24:48.680 Again, guys, we're a very small team.

00:24:50.780 So I appreciate the emails about, have you seen this?

00:24:53.480 Have you watched that?

00:24:54.720 I would just, please don't send those.

00:24:56.580 Just tag us on TikTok, tag us in something that you want us to see.

00:25:00.300 Do not clutter our inbox with, please watch this or random things.

00:25:04.360 We really want to use this to get information or answers to questions that we're asking on this show.

00:25:09.860 And here are the questions that we are still looking for answers to.

00:25:14.000 One, who was it that Erica knew that was at the Batman Colorado mass shooting?

00:25:21.520 That theater, remember, that happened when the Batman movie came out in Colorado?

00:25:25.980 Erica tweeted and said that she knew somebody that was in that theater.

00:25:30.140 Does anybody know who that is?

00:25:31.360 Has anybody heard any more?

00:25:32.260 Is there an interview out there where she discusses that further?

00:25:34.180 I would like to know more about that information.

00:25:36.540 Secondly, does anybody know or remember Erica Fransvay from Ohio?

00:25:43.100 In doing her biography, it's almost as though she suddenly just appears in her high school years in Arizona.

00:25:49.680 The backstory is that she's from Ohio until she gets into high school.

00:25:53.260 People who attended middle school with Erica in Ohio, if that's you, we want to hear from you.

00:25:57.640 More tips at CandaceOwens.com.

00:25:59.040 If you attend elementary school with Erica, if that's you, we would like to hear from you.

00:26:03.240 You guys in Cincinnati, Ohio, please check your yearbooks.

00:26:08.760 Maybe you didn't know that it was her because it's a long time ago.

00:26:11.420 Please email us.

00:26:12.240 Also, does anybody remember her at Loyola Marymount?

00:26:17.700 This is also the same school that she shared and went to.

00:26:20.200 And people who went in that same year as her say, I don't remember her.

00:26:26.360 We have not had a single person that has come out and said they remember her.

00:26:29.400 Despite the fact that she is mentioned in a program, I'm looking for somebody who says, yeah, I took a class with her.

00:26:34.520 She was a full adult by then.

00:26:36.240 You would remember this.

00:26:37.140 Oh, I went out with her for something.

00:26:38.660 I don't know if you attended school with her at Loyola Marymount, we would like to hear from you.

00:26:44.040 And again, we will ask for more information just to dot our I's and to cross our T's, even though I think we have the information we need.

00:26:52.020 If you have any information pertaining to Erica Kirk's whereabouts on September 8th when she broke her Twitter silence, the 9th or on the 10th when Charlie was assassinated.

00:27:03.680 Because the story goes, turning point employees were told that she got the news when she was with her mom and then she drove herself back home.

00:27:15.840 Thus far, nobody where they live remembers seeing Erica, but she apparently met Stacey Sheridan and a couple other people and then they went to the airport together.

00:27:23.640 So it's a pretty big assassination.

00:27:26.840 The entire world would have been looking out for her in that moment, especially people who knew who Charlie Kirk was.

00:27:32.500 These neighbors said they knew him and his wife and his kids.

00:27:35.340 And thus far, nobody remembers seeing Erica Kirk on the 10th.

00:27:40.060 Maybe you work at the airport and you saw her board.

00:27:42.760 That would make sense.

00:27:43.780 Yes, I happened to work at the terminal and I saw them all run in looking frantic in Scottsdale.

00:27:48.360 I would like to try to confirm that story on September 10th.

00:27:52.460 Anyway, we will pause there and we will be right back after the break.

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00:29:47.320 Okay, you guys.

00:29:48.680 So for another item that we can toss into the Candace Owens was right to jar, but they were saying I was crazy.

00:29:54.080 I tell you, I'm very quick at puzzles.

00:29:56.880 I don't have a ton of strengths in other areas.

00:29:59.580 I probably, I would say, geography is not my greatest strength, but putting together puzzles and recognizing anomalies I've always been very good at.

00:30:05.880 And I right away said that way too many dudes are wearing maroon shirts.

00:30:09.740 And common sense, if you're going to organize any military operation, which I believe September 10th was, obviously, a military operation, to those of us who are sensible, you're going to need to know who your guys are.

00:30:21.740 So, yeah, you're going to have certain people wearing certain colors, certain hats.

00:30:24.960 And they were like, this is crazy.

00:30:26.960 No, this many men really like maroon.

00:30:29.420 And I was like, I feel like there's a color of the day here.

00:30:32.420 And everyone who's wearing maroon is involved.

00:30:36.060 Well, guess what?

00:30:37.340 Epstein, the Epstein docs dropped.

00:30:39.940 And there was a mention of military colors of the day.

00:30:43.060 A TikToker went viral discussing it.

00:30:45.740 Take a listen.

00:30:46.240 If you don't know, during the Charlie Kirk assassination, there was a significant number of young men wearing maroon shirts.

00:30:57.260 Originally, Candace Owens was the first person to point this out, and everybody called her crazy.

00:31:02.140 However, I found proof that she was right. 0.97

00:31:04.620 So, after she made this claim, a lot of people called her crazy.

00:31:08.440 But then there was also a good amount of people from the military that were saying that's absolutely a thing that the military does during secret operations in public areas.

00:31:16.540 They choose a color of the day.

00:31:18.680 So, I started thinking, right?

00:31:20.300 I was like, what if I searched in the DOJ files the term color of the day?

00:31:25.040 And what do you know?

00:31:26.660 I find 40 results of different FBI briefings talking about a color of the day.

00:31:32.660 And every single one is unredacted.

00:31:34.860 You can see what the color of the day was for that day for whatever military operation was going on.

00:31:39.280 Now, most of the details for the military operation is redacted.

00:31:42.760 However, on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the morning of, before his death, they established a color of the day for a SITREP, which is just a military situation report.

00:31:59.500 And the color of the day is redacted.

00:32:01.940 Out of 40 different files mentioning a color of the day for secret operations, the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination is the only one that has a color of the day redacted.

00:32:16.520 Like I said, I'm just out here doing common sense.

00:32:18.500 I noticed also, by the way, it wasn't just maroon.

00:32:21.040 I felt like they were organizing by battalion.

00:32:22.900 Some people were all, like, wearing white hats.

00:32:24.820 Some people were wearing their socks in a certain way, where I was, like, never seen this many people wear their socks this high before.

00:32:29.960 And I'm a person who likes to organize for pantry.

00:32:33.260 My pantry and my kitchen is a high point for me every day.

00:32:37.120 I go in there.

00:32:37.560 It's so organized.

00:32:38.540 I organize my seasonings, okay?

00:32:41.940 I had to buy a label, like a label maker, so I could organize my seasonings.

00:32:48.460 Okay, for those of us who are that in the weeds on organization, thinking about how you might organize a military operation, that seemed pretty obvious.

00:32:54.640 I just recognize organization.

00:32:56.740 Even when it's supposed to look like chaos, it's got to be organized.

00:32:59.200 And that's what was going down on that day.

00:33:01.220 And I have a folder of the—I, like, call them, like, the white hats.

00:33:04.580 So this and that that was happening on that day.

00:33:06.100 Very obvious.

00:33:07.040 Now, who knows?

00:33:08.720 He said he's going through the DOJ files.

00:33:10.760 Who knows if that particular reference was pertaining—it could be pertaining to any number of military operations on the 10th.

00:33:17.220 Then they could be covering it because there was maybe another FBI operation and military operation that was taking place, I don't know, in Canada or overseas, whatever it is.

00:33:27.660 And people might notice that a lot of people wore green.

00:33:30.680 And so maybe that's the reason they're blocking it out.

00:33:33.000 I don't know.

00:33:33.800 What I do know is Maroon, the Maroon boys, were somehow involved.

00:33:38.480 That seemed pretty obvious to me that there was some coordination happening.

00:33:42.220 Also, they were all alone, which was weird.

00:33:44.160 Like, also, whoever wore maroon wanted to go to this event alone.

00:33:47.080 They had no homies with them.

00:33:48.780 So, yeah. 0.83

00:33:49.600 Anyways, moving on, after yesterday's episode regarding Photogate, Turning Point issued a statement about how the wedding photo, which was curiously there, when Charlie was hosting his last show and then was suddenly removed when Erica was speaking to Glenn Beck in December, they obviously were—they're always panicked, and then they issue a dumb statement.

00:34:11.080 That's kind of their move.

00:34:12.100 They never take a deep breath and think about whether what they're going to say makes any sense.

00:34:16.640 And the issue was Erica was like, this is my first time, and she's on Glenn Beck.

00:34:20.660 The exact sentence I think she says is, I haven't been here in forever.

00:34:24.740 Sorry if I keep looking down.

00:34:26.580 This is a note that he wrote.

00:34:28.420 Okay, how long is forever?

00:34:30.420 It sounds like it's been a long time since you've been in this particular office, and you obviously have not even seen this desk.

00:34:36.500 Anyway, to account for the now-missing photo, they went to Newsweek.

00:34:42.860 I think the editor-at-large is Josh Hammer.

00:34:44.820 They just can't help themselves.

00:34:45.860 They just want to look guilty in everything that they do.

00:34:48.740 This is what they told.

00:34:50.560 This is what they told Newsweek.

00:34:52.080 A post has gone viral online that appeared to show Erica Kirk having moved or removed a photograph of her and Charlie Kirk at their wedding.

00:34:59.300 Well, a Turning Point USA spokesperson told Newsweek,

00:35:02.420 Erica moved it to a lower shelf when her daughter asked to see it so that she could hold and look at the photo.

00:35:10.000 It's still on the studio shelf.

00:35:12.460 It's just lower down where her daughter can look at it whenever she's in there with her mom.

00:35:19.640 Aww.

00:35:20.040 There's just always so much emotional, obvious emotional manipulation.

00:35:26.140 I don't know how you guys feel, but I feel like they should have went with the Andrew Colvett went rogue excuse.

00:35:33.060 I think it's stronger.

00:35:33.700 I like that.

00:35:34.100 It's my favorite one.

00:35:34.880 I said to go with Andrew Colvett went rogue.

00:35:36.140 I love him being rogue.

00:35:37.020 It's more believable.

00:35:38.780 It certainly is more believable that Andrew Colvett went rogue.

00:35:43.040 Because I'm feeling now like I got to start like justice for Gigi.

00:35:45.980 They keep dragging this poor toddler into every possible alibi regarding Erica Kirk.

00:35:52.000 And I'm just not going to stand for this much longer.

00:35:53.460 OK, we're out here treating Gigi like Puerto Rican moms treat their daughters. 1.00

00:35:58.840 OK, Latinos, you know what I'm talking about.

00:36:00.300 Their sons can do no wrong.

00:36:02.720 Mi rey.

00:36:03.880 The daughters, they do a lot of wrong. 1.00

00:36:05.660 And that's how I'm feeling like Gigi's getting some treatment here, but I'm not I'm not cool with.

00:36:09.000 She's always in the alibi.

00:36:10.060 Remember, Gigi kicked Charlie out of the bed the night before because she was doing gymnastics. 0.99

00:36:15.460 Oh, Gigi wanted to move that photo to eye level. 0.99

00:36:18.340 So they had to move it.

00:36:19.300 Gigi wanted to go for a walk.

00:36:22.340 So Erica couldn't have been at some fort in Huachuca because she was with Gigi.

00:36:27.880 Leave Gigi alone. 1.00

00:36:29.860 Obviously, that did not happen because it makes no sense.

00:36:33.200 No sense to bring a photo to ground level in a studio that is not occupied by the toddler.

00:36:40.840 Is this her first time seeing the photo?

00:36:42.500 If she wanted the photo, if she was like, I want to hug the photo, you would just give

00:36:46.980 it to her.

00:36:47.820 You would allow her to take it.

00:36:48.840 This is your home studio.

00:36:50.120 You would say, yeah, take it out of the office because it's no longer serving us.

00:36:53.100 It's not in the background.

00:36:54.580 Take it out of the office and put it in your room.

00:36:55.840 You can have it.

00:36:56.480 It's not serving anyone.

00:36:58.580 It's supposed to be design.

00:36:59.940 I mean, why would that's my granddad behind me.

00:37:03.480 That's a photo of my granddad.

00:37:04.600 Why would if Lulu, who is three, came in here and was like, I want that photo. 0.92

00:37:09.080 Why would I be like, OK, puts it on the floor where my daughter should not be because it's

00:37:14.800 a studio and this is not a playroom.

00:37:17.380 It's just it's stop, please just stop.

00:37:20.160 I want Turning Point USA to, for once in their lives, do the right thing and pay me a monthly

00:37:26.340 retainer to consult them on PR.

00:37:29.700 Just say no, nope, no, nope.

00:37:34.380 Because I would have said to them, I said, look, here's what you're going to do.

00:37:37.140 Blame the housekeepers. 1.00

00:37:38.640 Blame the unknown housekeepers. 1.00

00:37:40.280 You're rich.

00:37:41.180 You've got money.

00:37:42.140 A lot of money.

00:37:43.020 We're talking billions from Pierre type money.

00:37:46.000 Just blame the housekeeper, Erica. 1.00

00:37:47.780 What?

00:37:48.080 What?

00:37:48.560 We didn't even notice that.

00:37:49.740 We just had someone in to clean. 0.90

00:37:51.360 I am going to fire the housekeeper. 1.00

00:37:55.620 That's what I would have done.

00:37:56.500 Nope.

00:37:56.760 Nobody pays me.

00:37:57.440 Nobody pays me the big bucks.

00:37:59.560 And even though they are lying about Gigi, we can now debunk my earlier suspicion that

00:38:05.460 Charlie himself moved the photo because he did not.

00:38:08.400 It is likely that he did not.

00:38:11.840 He could not have moved the photo himself.

00:38:12.900 And the reason that they're lying is because they want to protect a person that is truly amazing.

00:38:20.160 A person who is so terrific, who is so spectacular that we dare not even say his name without an adjective.

00:38:25.900 He is he who must not be named without an adjective.

00:38:28.340 You know who I'm referring to.

00:38:29.040 Because oddly, despite the fact that this is Charlie's home studio, in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination, before Erica got in there, Mikey began doing media hits from it.

00:38:40.340 What's he doing at the house?

00:38:41.220 Nobody knows.

00:38:42.020 What does he do for Charlie?

00:38:43.100 Nobody knows.

00:38:44.220 How did he become chief of staff?

00:38:45.520 Nobody knows.

00:38:46.220 So, yeah, anyway, one of our mommy sleuths did find Mikey McCoy, the amazing, the marvelous Mikey, on November 8th, giving an interview to Real America's Voice.

00:38:57.460 And you can see in the corner there is no photo.

00:38:59.900 Okay, there's no photo.

00:39:00.640 So that was it was already moved.

00:39:01.540 So if Erica was really seeing the notes on his desk for the first time in December because she hadn't been in the office in, quote unquote, forever, as she told Glenn Beck, the marvelous McCoy could not relate.

00:39:12.080 He's been there.

00:39:12.640 He's been sitting at Charlie's desk.

00:39:14.400 But then on top of that, and here's where we get to debunk the idea that Charlie moved the photo, they were hard-launching Mikey.

00:39:21.260 Remember, I told you that.

00:39:22.260 Mikey was, like, slated to take over for Charlie.

00:39:25.820 And they were doing it very hard and very quickly after Charlie's assassination.

00:39:29.300 So hard and so quickly that another sleuth found him on September 22nd seated in Charlie's chair at home.

00:39:36.020 Now, this is just 11 days after Charlie's assassination.

00:39:39.340 And it also happens to be the same date that Erica was on that Zoom call telling the employees to button it up, get back to work.

00:39:47.740 There's merge sales.

00:39:48.540 There's hat sales.

00:39:49.300 It's what Charlie would want.

00:39:50.700 Charlie is dancing in heaven.

00:39:51.880 But only if you're at work, working hard.

00:39:54.780 You better work if you want Charlie to dance in heaven. 0.97

00:39:58.180 When she was giving that whole sermon on that exact day, Mikey the Amazing shared a similar message with Martha McCollum on Fox News.

00:40:08.600 And you can see just at the end of that, this little screenshot, that Mikey, you see the photos in the background.

00:40:15.660 So I think Mikey got ahead of himself.

00:40:19.440 Mikey the Amazing.

00:40:20.240 Mikey the Marvelous got a little ahead of himself.

00:40:21.940 And it was, like, messing up his vibe.

00:40:23.820 And he moved it.

00:40:25.360 That's probably what happened.

00:40:27.140 He's like, you know, I can't really vibe out with Charlie's.

00:40:30.020 He probably even put up his own photo.

00:40:32.880 And they said, nah, too hard.

00:40:33.900 Too aggressive.

00:40:34.420 Too soon.

00:40:36.100 Anyway.

00:40:37.020 We're only interested.

00:40:37.840 There are so many red flags in this story.

00:40:40.040 We don't need to pursue ones that potentially are not.

00:40:43.540 And, yeah.

00:40:45.140 Mikey.

00:40:46.120 I'm starting to like him, I think.

00:40:47.540 I've been saying he's—when you start using adjectives to describe someone, the psyop works.

00:40:53.060 I don't let anybody say anything bad about Mikey the Amazing.

00:40:56.180 Mikey the Wonderful.

00:40:57.020 Mikey the Spectacular.

00:40:59.000 I don't—I stand the Amazing.

00:41:01.680 Mikey McCoy.

00:41:02.240 The question now is whether or not they're going to keep gaslighting us and lying to us about Charlie and Erica.

00:41:07.600 I still feel very strongly they had a fight on the 9th.

00:41:12.500 And also I feel strongly that they probably will keep gaslighting us, at least if the Epstein file situation is any indication, because we have been so aggressively gaslit over the last six months that sometimes you forget how audacious and how absurd and how positively traumatizing the manner in which our government just routinely lies to us actually is.

00:41:32.640 Regarding the Epstein files, we should probably be in the streets revolting.

00:41:37.340 This is—we're probably due for, like, a revolution or something.

00:41:40.940 It's so bad that Republicans are sharing Democratic tips.

00:41:46.980 It's actually kind of bringing us together because I think we all just hate the elites so much.

00:41:51.960 And the quote-unquote elites, really the occults and the ball worshipers.

00:41:55.440 And I'm clearly not a Democrat.

00:41:57.420 I'm actually not even a Republican.

00:41:58.880 I retired from politics.

00:41:59.860 Today they took out Charlie Kirk and lied to us about it.

00:42:01.660 But this Democratic representative, Jared Maskowicz, did a really good job recapping exactly what the Trump administration put us through with the Epstein files, gaslighting his own supporters after insisting that day one they were going to give us access, they were going to tell us the truth, they were going to be the most transparent administration ever, holding up the binders.

00:42:27.720 Take it away, Jared Maskowicz.

00:42:29.820 It's been 12 months since you gave Republican influencers part one of the Epstein files.

00:42:35.020 You said the list was on your desk.

00:42:36.700 Then a memo came out and said that there was no list.

00:42:38.800 Phase two of the binders never happened.

00:42:40.720 The president of the United States says the Epstein thing is a hoax.

00:42:43.480 He blasts his own base for wanting the release of the files.

00:42:46.520 He blamed Barack Obama.

00:42:48.120 Republicans voted against the release of the files in the Rules Committee.

00:42:50.860 Then they refused to even return to the Rules Committee until they could be protected from future votes on the release.

00:42:57.220 Speaker Johnson sends Congress home a day early before break.

00:43:01.000 They sent the Deputy Attorney General to meet with Maxwell.

00:43:04.160 She says something favorable about the president.

00:43:06.520 Miraculously, she gets transferred to a minimum security facility.

00:43:10.080 No one can explain why.

00:43:11.920 Miraculously, the leaks to the Wall Street Journal stop.

00:43:14.380 We come back from break.

00:43:16.020 We have the Massey Discharge Petition.

00:43:18.480 Republicans drop a rule, a non-binding resolution trying to kill the Massey Discharge Petition.

00:43:23.980 The White House says passing the Massey Discharge Petition is a hostile act.

00:43:28.180 Trying to stop the necessary 218 signatures, according to Republican members that signed it,

00:43:32.900 the White House brought them into the Situation Room, you know, the place where the president goes for time of war,

00:43:38.060 promising things like appropriations or maybe even to primary them.

00:43:41.280 People in the room say you were there.

00:43:43.160 It didn't work.

00:43:44.140 We get the 218 signatures.

00:43:45.560 We eventually passed the Massey Petition.

00:43:47.860 You guys didn't release the files.

00:43:50.220 You were forced by Congress, every member of the House except one, and the entire Senate.

00:43:57.060 The reason the president signed it is because it was a veto-proof majority.

00:44:01.320 We can't agree on anything, and yet the entire House but one member and the whole Senate forced the administration to release the files.

00:44:09.260 Cash Patel, under oath, said to Senator Kennedy,

00:44:11.620 The FBI is not in possession of any criminal evidence that Epstein trafficked girls to anyone but himself.

00:44:18.240 We know now that's not true.

00:44:19.860 According to documents, Epstein had a worldwide sex trafficking ring.

00:44:23.400 Girls from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Paris, modeling agencies sending him girls.

00:44:27.960 He even had a relationship with a summer camp where he groomed girls at a picnic table.

00:44:31.920 Ghislaine Maxwell says 29 Epstein associates cut secret DOJ deals.

00:44:36.420 Turns out there is a list.

00:44:38.060 Six names readily available if you unredact them.

00:44:40.460 Co-conspirators named, but we got them when you unredact them.

00:44:44.300 Maxwell recently tells a House oversight committee that she wants clemency to release more names. 0.88

00:44:49.540 Cash Patel, under oath, said Trump's name appears less than 100 times in the files.

00:44:53.060 We now know that's not true.

00:44:54.520 Trump's name appears more times in the Epstein files than God's name appears in the book about God.

00:45:00.120 Okay, by the way, this is the Trump Bible.

00:45:02.520 Move over, King James.

00:45:04.280 Trump's name also appears more times in the Epstein file than Harry Potter's name appears in the seven books about Harry Potter.

00:45:11.920 Lutnik says that in 2008 he went to Epstein's home, says he had a massage table in the living room.

00:45:16.600 But Epstein said he got one every day, that it was the right type of massage.

00:45:20.100 He and his wife decide to leave and say they'll never be in a room with him again.

00:45:23.820 Howard then says, I'm sure the Epstein stuff is all on video.

00:45:26.740 He was the greatest blackmailer of all time.

00:45:28.800 Well, how would Howard know that?

00:45:31.840 But now the files are public.

00:45:33.440 And in 2012 we found out that he and his family are on Epstein Island after, after, after Epstein pled guilty to state charges.

00:45:42.520 I'm from Florida.

00:45:43.260 I take my family to Disney World, not to Epstein Island.

00:45:46.680 There are documents in the files that dispute the president's claim, that he kicked Epstein out of his club.

00:45:51.040 Allegedly the president said Epstein, that he asked Epstein to leave.

00:45:54.120 Supported now, that's disputed though, statements from the manager of the club.

00:46:00.400 Now I'm at a return journal.

00:46:01.280 I have like 25 seconds left.

00:46:02.580 So because I'm curious, and I'd like to see, flip to the Jared Moskowitz section of the binder.

00:46:10.060 I'm interested to see what staff provided on the oppo on me.

00:46:13.660 And because we're in the Olympics, I'm going to give it a grade.

00:46:16.400 I just want to see how, how, how good it is.

00:46:18.680 So give me your best one.

00:46:20.360 So first of all, nothing is funny about mocking the Bible and holding up a Trump Bible.

00:46:25.840 That's what you did.

00:46:26.820 You made a joke and I find it offensive to that.

00:46:29.140 That's all I have to say.

00:46:30.200 I want it from the burn book.

00:46:31.320 Shame.

00:46:31.540 I want it from the burn book, which is the best one.

00:46:33.300 What you got?

00:46:33.600 That's all she had to say to him.

00:46:37.380 Shame, shame, shame on you for telling the truth about what we have put the public through,

00:46:43.400 what we have put our supporters to through, the people that believed in us, who wanted

00:46:46.640 to get to the answers, who, you know, took us to this line because we wanted to see how

00:46:51.420 power works.

00:46:52.060 Instead, we're protecting people that are in the files.

00:46:53.720 Howard Lutnick's practically running Trump's administration.

00:46:58.080 Bibi Netanyahu.

00:46:59.400 I mean, Howard Lutnick's all over the world with Jared Kushner.

00:47:01.340 He's just been protecting his homies and she's got shame on you because you didn't. 0.90

00:47:08.840 Actually, he did not mock the Bible in any way.

00:47:12.880 That's what she's got.

00:47:15.500 She's got a little bit more, too, by the way, because I guess she thought this was going

00:47:19.280 to work.

00:47:20.200 And I actually appreciate this response, this next response from Pam Bondi, her perspective

00:47:24.300 on it, because I think it's honest.

00:47:26.720 I appreciate it because it's honest.

00:47:29.100 Take a listen.

00:47:29.580 They are talking about Epstein today.

00:47:33.360 This has been around since the Obama administration.

00:47:37.020 This administration released over three million pages of documents, over three million.

00:47:44.140 And Donald Trump signed that law to release all of those documents.

00:47:49.400 He is the most transparent president in the nation's history.

00:47:55.180 And none of them, none of them, ask Merrick Garland over the last four years one word about

00:48:04.520 Jeffrey Epstein.

00:48:05.920 How ironic is that?

00:48:07.440 You know why?

00:48:08.120 Because Donald Trump, the Dow, the Dow right now is over, the Dow is over $50,000.

00:48:17.560 I don't know why you're laughing.

00:48:18.860 You're a great stock trader, as I hear, Raskin.

00:48:21.320 The Dow is over $50,000 right now.

00:48:25.500 The S&P at almost $7,000.

00:48:28.360 And the NASDAQ smashing records, Americans' 401ks and retirement savings are booming.

00:48:37.160 That's what we should be talking about.

00:48:39.460 We should be talking about making Americans safe.

00:48:43.240 We should be talking about, what does a Dow have to do with anything?

00:48:46.340 That's what they just asked.

00:48:47.680 Are you kidding?

00:48:48.740 Got PC Optimum points?

00:48:51.580 Visit Shoppers Drug Mart for the bonus redemption event and get more for your points.

00:48:55.720 Friday, February 13th to Wednesday, February 18th.

00:48:58.700 Valid in store and online.

00:49:06.320 It's simply amazing.

00:49:07.540 It's as amazing as Mikey McCoy, right?

00:49:09.680 She's just out there like, what is what?

00:49:13.420 Let them have cake.

00:49:14.440 Like, what is wrong with you guys?

00:49:15.700 Okay.

00:49:16.980 Okay.

00:49:17.380 Hey, we were guilty.

00:49:19.900 Guilty as charged.

00:49:21.720 Yeah, Epstein's trafficking.

00:49:23.180 It's a whole network. 0.98

00:49:24.000 Everyone at the top is kind of a monster. 0.99

00:49:26.560 Yeah, they've been trafficking children, harming children. 0.99

00:49:30.340 There's all this ball worship.

00:49:32.160 We're referring to you guys as Goyam and increasing your taxes, making things more dangerous, stealing

00:49:38.780 from you effectively.

00:49:39.860 Money has gone missing.

00:49:41.040 But have you checked your 401ks?

00:49:44.740 Guys, gas is down 10 cents a gallon.

00:49:49.560 Why do you care if we're harming children on islands?

00:49:54.620 Why do you care so much?

00:49:55.440 Are you good?

00:49:56.960 That's what we should be talking about here.

00:49:58.640 Gas.

00:49:59.840 No?

00:50:00.420 You can get petrol now.

00:50:01.700 And it's like, you know, 10 cents cheaper than it was during the Obama era.

00:50:05.800 What's wrong with you guys?

00:50:07.680 How much more do you need to be distracted so that we can go on worshiping Satan?

00:50:13.680 I just don't understand.

00:50:15.200 Please, let's talk about the Dow.

00:50:17.720 Incredible.

00:50:18.300 That's where we're at right now, guys.

00:50:19.860 Up is down.

00:50:20.680 Down is up.

00:50:21.740 Like I said, we are pretty much due for a revolution.

00:50:24.900 I guess the empire, which is supposed to be every 25 years before it crashes and burns.

00:50:28.780 It seems like we're doing that.

00:50:30.160 But I recommend you pull your children out of these schools.

00:50:34.000 Very clear that they are everywhere and they are a cult of military.

00:50:37.980 They are dangerous people.

00:50:39.400 You don't want to deal with psychopaths that have this sort of a conscience when you're talking about harming children.

00:50:43.880 That they genuinely, she does not compute why they don't care about Dow.

00:50:47.280 She doesn't even compute it.

00:50:48.060 She's like, what do you mean?

00:50:49.560 What do I mean?

00:50:50.620 What do you mean?

00:50:51.820 What do I mean?

00:50:54.320 Yeah, you don't want to hand your kids over to people like that. 0.71

00:50:56.900 Anyway, so much more that we will be uncovering and always interested to see with that same energy,

00:51:02.740 are they going to continue to gaslight us about Erica Kirk?

00:51:07.060 Are they going to continue to do the thing?

00:51:08.940 I refer to her as a widow who's never done anything wrong.

00:51:12.480 Some purity test.

00:51:13.540 How dare you do this?

00:51:14.380 How dare you destroy the empire of Turning Point USA?

00:51:16.680 It's all Charlie was.

00:51:17.660 It's all he was.

00:51:18.160 He got up every day and this is what he wanted to build.

00:51:20.600 He was not a person outside of us.

00:51:21.920 How dare you even question the very questionable things?

00:51:25.440 Have you seen gas prices lately?

00:51:28.700 You have questions about Erica Kirk's background.

00:51:31.280 Have you seen the Dow?

00:51:34.500 Have you even opened your 401k?

00:51:36.940 What's wrong with you? 1.00

00:51:38.000 You're all monsters. 0.98

00:51:40.120 Anyway, speaking of Turning Point USA, I got a very funny story about how, 0.96

00:51:44.020 as a part of how they wanted to get back at me,

00:51:45.860 apparently Alex Clark demanded, demanded that Dylan Call, my sponsors,

00:51:52.980 Paleo Valley, one of our show sponsors,

00:51:54.580 and we didn't even hear this from our sponsors,

00:51:56.480 we heard this from people that were fired from Turning Point USA,

00:51:59.280 and demanded that they decide, they pick me or Alex Clark,

00:52:05.640 because I had gone after her for dressing up in boots 0.60

00:52:08.060 and standing over the memorial site of Charlie to pose for,

00:52:14.280 what was it, the Washington Post, whatever it was.

00:52:16.360 I thought that was weird.

00:52:17.640 That didn't feel right to me.

00:52:20.500 And she was upset about that.

00:52:21.600 And I thought that was very funny.

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00:54:20.640 Sounds like me and Alex Clark got beef, Paleo Valley beef.

00:54:24.360 Who does that?

00:54:24.960 Why are these people like this?

00:54:26.020 I would just never call somebody's sponsors

00:54:28.060 and be like, you pick me in my boots or Candice.

00:54:32.340 You can only have one of us.

00:54:34.420 I can't believe they didn't tell me that.

00:54:35.780 Respect to Paleo Valley.

00:54:36.880 Not even telling me that.

00:54:37.840 It must have been a very strange phone call.

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00:54:47.960 We've also merged our subscriptions here.

00:54:49.680 So even though we'll be off air next week,

00:54:51.120 we will obviously continue book club.

00:54:53.440 Great time to sign up, guys.

00:54:54.660 Jumping into a new book, The Secret Founding of America.

00:54:57.760 Yes, I will have to read it every single time.

00:54:59.460 I don't know why.

00:54:59.880 I have this blank, blank spot where I just can't remember.

00:55:03.340 Blank slate.

00:55:04.360 I can't remember titles.

00:55:05.260 It's weird.

00:55:06.200 It's like my kryptonite.

00:55:07.120 Nicholas Hager.

00:55:07.980 Oh, it's up.

00:55:08.580 Thank you.

00:55:08.920 Just do that next time.

00:55:10.720 We have Nicholas Hager just starting this.

00:55:13.380 We're just going to do an intro, get into the first three chapters.

00:55:17.180 Very excited.

00:55:17.720 The real story of Freemasons, Puritans, and the battle for the new world.

00:55:21.280 Not what you were told, guys.

00:55:24.060 That whole story about the founding of America.

00:55:25.620 The British are coming. 1.00

00:55:26.700 The British are coming. 1.00

00:55:28.340 Not so much.

00:55:29.280 Sorry to tell you.

00:55:30.460 All right.

00:55:30.720 We're getting into some of your comments.

00:55:31.840 I'm going to miss you.

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00:55:46.160 Getting into some of your comments from last episode,

00:55:49.240 or I'm sorry, the top comment from last episode was from Malia.

00:55:52.000 She wrote, I don't know about anyone else,

00:55:53.520 but if my husband was assassinated and I did not sleep beside him

00:55:56.640 on the last night that he was alive,

00:55:58.720 I would be absolutely shattered.

00:56:02.080 Yeah, but have you thought about the merch sales?

00:56:03.620 What's wrong with that person?

00:56:07.020 Why did she even write that comment? 1.00

00:56:09.140 That was a terrible comment.

00:56:09.980 Have you thought about the t-shirts that you'll sell?

00:56:11.800 No, clearly she didn't think about the t-shirts she would sell

00:56:13.860 when she wrote that comment.

00:56:15.660 Be better.

00:56:17.420 We'll get into some of your comments for today's episode.

00:56:19.720 A reminder, we will be dark next week,

00:56:21.300 so we will not see you until Monday the 23rd.

00:56:24.520 Comments from today's episode.

00:56:25.640 Jess writes, how about this?

00:56:26.720 We pray that in 2028,

00:56:28.340 we see an Owens and Carol or Coleman ticket.

00:56:31.380 One can dream.

00:56:32.060 Candace, go Max. 0.99

00:56:32.700 Christ is king.

00:56:33.820 It won't be Owens.

00:56:34.700 I'll tell you that for free.

00:56:35.660 It will not be Owens.

00:56:37.280 I just think there is nothing authentic and real in D.C.

00:56:40.580 The reason why I get along with these people so well,

00:56:42.700 Carol and Coleman,

00:56:43.580 is probably because they're not in D.C.

00:56:45.500 and they're real people with real lives.

00:56:47.760 I mean, does Coleman have like eight children?

00:56:49.960 I think he actually has eight kids.

00:56:51.680 I'm not even making that up.

00:56:52.820 Baron Coleman.

00:56:54.100 Iroar Z50 writes,

00:56:56.020 Candace, I follow your book club only,

00:56:58.140 and I am buying and reading the books that you suggest.

00:56:59.900 I think that you should add the book,

00:57:01.440 the Tavistock Institute.

00:57:02.720 Stop.

00:57:03.360 Stop.

00:57:04.480 Yes, I want to read every book.

00:57:06.040 That's the problem.

00:57:06.560 I know I already know about Tavistock.

00:57:07.920 I already know about the Beatles thing.

00:57:10.060 The entire decade of the 60s was one big sigh up.

00:57:13.040 But it's enough.

00:57:14.140 It's enough, I think, that we started with chaos.

00:57:17.040 And then I encourage people to like,

00:57:19.180 if you want to go down a darker hole on this,

00:57:20.660 you should read this and that.

00:57:21.600 And if you tell me about this book,

00:57:22.800 then I'm going to be the one that goes down a dark hole.

00:57:24.560 And I'm already going down so many rabbit holes.

00:57:27.480 Fine.

00:57:28.000 You got me.

00:57:28.600 I'll read it.

00:57:29.460 I know how they social engineer the masses.

00:57:31.180 And I know what Tavistock Institute was.

00:57:33.120 And it's all very real.

00:57:34.300 It's all social engineering.

00:57:35.620 Even making us watch an assassination,

00:57:38.660 that's part of how they know we're going to feel

00:57:40.620 and how they can get,

00:57:42.320 they can all then get us to behave in a certain way.

00:57:44.400 That's like 9-11.

00:57:45.260 You watch it and then they're like,

00:57:46.900 we're all in this together.

00:57:48.480 We've all experienced this trauma together.

00:57:50.360 We're a family.

00:57:51.360 That's that Erica stuff to Turning Point USA.

00:57:53.520 We're a family now.

00:57:54.980 And they can just engineer people to do things

00:57:58.120 based off of their emotions.

00:58:00.060 They're like raw emotions in those moments.

00:58:02.900 So it is a tried and true methodology.

00:58:06.440 Tried and true methodology, pardon.

00:58:08.560 Next, we have Connor Finn writes,

00:58:10.520 thanks for selecting my comment yesterday.

00:58:12.180 Skylar, making Candace laugh was priceless.

00:58:14.500 Go on and buy yourself something nice.

00:58:16.880 Thank you for that, Connor.

00:58:18.980 Yeah, I was just trying to be cool yesterday.

00:58:21.360 Mary Everett writes,

00:58:22.680 when someone leaks the info

00:58:24.000 about the bullets being inscribed with trans stuff 0.98

00:58:26.780 to Steven Crowder the day after the 10th, 1.00

00:58:28.920 do you think that he was just a useful idiot 1.00

00:58:30.480 or do you think he knew he was shoveling out Fedslop? 1.00

00:58:32.860 I think he knew he was shoveling out Fedslop.

00:58:35.060 You also recall that he was the person

00:58:37.160 who after the Nashville shooting

00:58:39.260 magically got information and got the notebook

00:58:41.420 and that was another trans shooting.

00:58:43.320 So it just keeps falling onto Steven Crowder's lap

00:58:46.200 in the same way that TMZ just kind of gets these things

00:58:49.460 and you wonder, okay, I just, like I said,

00:58:51.800 I'm just here to recognize patterns

00:58:53.120 and I do not think that that was an accident at all.

00:58:57.340 Want to glorify God writes,

00:58:58.360 I can't help but wonder

00:58:59.060 has there ever been a death investigation in history

00:59:01.000 where the spouse lied once

00:59:02.820 about the key details of her husband's death,

00:59:05.460 much less many times,

00:59:06.760 and was not at the very least

00:59:07.680 considered a person of interest or suspect.

00:59:10.040 Zero reason to lie.

00:59:12.040 I agree with you, but we are team common sense.

00:59:14.720 And yeah, it's, like I said,

00:59:15.880 it's just time for them to bring her in.

00:59:17.020 There's just so much smoke here.

00:59:18.620 It's crazy.

00:59:19.620 And the stories are adjusting and changing

00:59:21.440 and they've got crisis PR team

00:59:23.100 and they're like, you know,

00:59:24.240 Andrew Colbert did it.

00:59:25.320 Gigi did it.

00:59:25.960 Poor Gigi. 0.98

00:59:26.600 Like, what's happening here?

00:59:29.020 And by the way, still nobody,

00:59:30.860 not even on Tyler Robinson's defense team,

00:59:33.140 you would think I would be, like, number one

00:59:35.860 they'd reach out to.

00:59:36.560 They'd be like, her inbox, the tips,

00:59:38.400 I've got the names, the people

00:59:39.920 who said this person lied,

00:59:41.680 and here's where it was.

00:59:43.120 No, they're not interested.

00:59:44.780 They are just not interested.

00:59:46.220 They got their guy.

00:59:47.560 They have got their guy.

00:59:48.380 I needed Tyler Robinson

00:59:49.320 with not a shred of evidence.

00:59:51.560 Just, they're the ones really going off

00:59:53.400 of vibes in a dream,

00:59:54.480 if we're being honest.

00:59:55.760 U.S. Flagpole writes,

00:59:56.780 in Jesus' name,

00:59:57.320 I command the truth to come forth now.

00:59:58.860 May there be no defense that stands

01:00:00.420 regarding Charlie's death starting now.

01:00:02.300 All God's people say amen.

01:00:03.840 Amen.

01:00:04.780 Emily in Irish writes,

01:00:05.720 just to let you know,

01:00:06.360 you are a true inspiration.

01:00:07.340 Your voice and message is all around the globe.

01:00:08.880 I have been following you for ages.

01:00:10.040 Keep up the good fight.

01:00:11.040 Sending prayers, strength,

01:00:12.100 and love from rural Ireland.

01:00:13.920 You should visit.

01:00:14.640 I would love to go to Ireland.

01:00:16.620 I would.

01:00:17.460 My husband was like,

01:00:17.960 he's like,

01:00:18.100 why do you guys,

01:00:18.520 why do Americans have such like 1.00

01:00:19.840 a romantic idea of Ireland?

01:00:20.920 I'm like,

01:00:21.080 I don't know.

01:00:22.140 Same reason that we have

01:00:22.960 a romantic idea of England.

01:00:24.040 That's why I married you.

01:00:25.260 You guys have beef?

01:00:25.860 Is it still going on?

01:00:28.000 Ireland?

01:00:28.620 Northern Ireland?

01:00:29.280 I don't know.

01:00:29.680 I'm not getting in it.

01:00:31.240 I love Ireland.

01:00:33.260 Natty Nicole writes,

01:00:35.460 I am sick.

01:00:36.260 Here I was thinking that I knew

01:00:37.220 the full story already,

01:00:38.400 but pictures,

01:00:39.340 you have got to be kidding me.

01:00:42.920 Well,

01:00:43.700 someone will explain it online.

01:00:45.160 It'll be,

01:00:45.900 a spokesperson will reach out to Newsweek

01:00:47.760 and they will say,

01:00:48.620 oh,

01:00:49.120 like,

01:00:49.420 you know,

01:00:50.400 Gigi wanted the pictures.

01:00:53.100 Gigi needed,

01:00:54.080 I don't know,

01:00:54.720 she wasn't here yet,

01:00:55.620 but it'll be some weird thing about

01:00:57.400 Gigi or Andrew Colbert.

01:00:58.640 Those are their two preferred methods

01:01:00.380 of shoveling BS to us,

01:01:02.960 it seems.

01:01:04.780 And,

01:01:05.180 dear Libby writes,

01:01:07.500 regarding me saying,

01:01:08.600 she's quoting me,

01:01:09.420 I don't know what's wrong with me.

01:01:10.440 I know.

01:01:11.160 I really,

01:01:12.500 when I did it,

01:01:13.120 he was so clear.

01:01:14.440 Like,

01:01:14.540 I sat there and I watched Baron Coleman.

01:01:15.780 He was so clear.

01:01:16.940 He said,

01:01:17.280 do not,

01:01:17.760 again,

01:01:18.100 I'm going to say,

01:01:18.940 do not reach out to Jillian.

01:01:21.040 And I was like,

01:01:24.100 what's wrong with me?

01:01:25.040 Seriously.

01:01:25.520 It's like,

01:01:25.900 my mom is so correct.

01:01:27.200 When I was a kid,

01:01:27.620 I'm hard-headed.

01:01:28.360 I am so hard-headed,

01:01:29.680 man.

01:01:30.260 I want to be better,

01:01:31.000 and I'm going to be better

01:01:31.440 when I come back.

01:01:34.800 Just kidding.

01:01:35.880 We'll see you guys

01:01:36.720 Monday the 23rd.

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Candace Owens - February 13, 2026

Okay…These Text Messages Are Crazy! ｜ Candace Ep 307

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