Candace reveals why a wedding photo of her and Charlie Kirk's on their wedding day disappeared from his home office, and why the internet is on fire about it. Plus, a new suspect emerges in the murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:00:00.660All right, you guys, I actually think it's appropriate to bring Kid Rock back, bring him on the stage right now, because I loved his song with Sheryl Crow. It was a big hit. You know, I put your picture away. That one. Very relevant today, because what's trending all over the Internet right now is Picturegate. Who put that picture away? That's what they want to know.
00:00:19.960It refers to a picture of Erica and Charlie on their wedding day, which Charlie had in his home office that suddenly went missing after his death. And I will tell you why the Internet is on fire about that.
00:00:34.000Also, they did just go ahead and fire Carrie Prejean for standing up for Catholics down in Texas, Catholics and sensible people, because she refuses to worship Israel, which Catholics cannot do and moral people should not do.
00:00:49.220It's crazy. But, you know, ethno-supremacy does, in fact, go against the teaching of the church.
00:01:50.080What we've been doing these past five months is trying to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk.
00:01:57.580And while we have definitively uncovered a lot, that process has been somewhat delayed and complicated by the fact that we don't have access to Charlie's phone, Erica's phone, Dan Flood's phone, Mikey McCoy's phone logs, Frank Turek's phone.
00:02:11.420Were we actually granted by the power of the courts, the right to subpoena all that information?
00:02:17.540I suspect we would have maybe solved this thing even before his memorial, before the quote-unquote event of the century.
00:03:45.680On September 9th, he went into the office.
00:03:49.620And by September 10th, the day about, he was assassinated.
00:03:53.680We are told that following that tragic ending, Erica could not even or didn't want to move any of his items out of their place in their bedroom, bathroom.
00:04:05.760That's what she told the New York Times a few days later when she welcomed them into that apartment, the one that you're seeing there.
00:04:12.120Well, then, fast forward to December 12th, and as a part of her Shabbat Shalom PR blitz, she conducted her very first interview from Charlie's home office.
00:04:23.800She gave that interview to Glenn Beck.
00:04:24.820And during that interview, she was playing the part, as you are about to see, of, this is my first time back in his office.
00:04:32.400And she keeps looking down, and she says, sorry, I'm looking down.
00:04:35.400I'm just looking at all of these things that Charlie left over on his desk.
00:04:39.020The obvious insinuation to the public being that she had not yet traversed into that space.
00:05:36.520I could spend hours in this—at this desk.
00:05:39.120But what I'm—what my point is, with little things like that, is that he would sit here on Sundays, writing, using his journal, like, going through all these drawers.
00:05:49.960And he was preparing for the week ahead.
00:05:54.720That got a little awkward when she read the loneliness part and the kids are his priority.
00:05:59.640And she kind of moves away from that anyway.
00:06:01.620You hear her say that she had not been in there in a long time.
00:06:03.700So the internet was correct to spot that oddity.
00:06:06.400If this really is your first time in his office, the first time looking down at his desk, who moves the frame behind his head?
00:06:13.260No person in their right mind would go into the home of a grieving widow and move a photo of her and her husband from their wedding day without explicit permission.
00:07:06.640I definitively do not believe that that is what happened.
00:07:09.400Because that is, that would be the exact opposite of the very intentional PR messaging that has come out of Turning Point USA since Charlie died.
00:07:21.120At every waking moment, even when Charlie was lying in his casket, they were ever intentional.
00:07:28.700They wanted the public to recognize that Erica was Charlie's husband.
00:07:35.060Erica and Charlie, Erica, she even intentionally used phrases like my Charlie in her initial speech, which was written in large part by Blake Neff, by the way, I'm told.
00:07:46.740Plus, in subsequent fundraising letters and emails, they wanted the public to know that it was, quote unquote, my Charlie, to remind them over and over again, that's her husband, that's her husband.
00:07:56.480The intention was to lay, of course, the emotional groundwork for the sudden transfer of power.
00:08:00.760The idea being, she's actually half of Charlie, so nobody should question anything.
00:08:06.300Charlie thought she was great, and you should think she's a great.
00:08:08.680Nobody wonder, nobody should be thinking or asking a question whether or not she's qualified to be the CEO and chairman.
00:08:28.600Oh, let's put up some stuff behind to remind people that this is her Charlie and how happy they were and how in love they were.
00:08:34.400So that really only leaves us with one other option, and that option would be that Charlie himself moved the frame.
00:08:44.160And he would have had to do this on the 9th, the day before his assassination.
00:08:48.580And what would have happened thereafter is Erica simply didn't realize it.
00:08:51.860It's actually, if you think about it, a rather minor detail, and they certainly would have been completely consumed with everything that was going on.
00:08:59.240They would not have been focusing on whether or not the background matched when she first sat down at that desk in the wake of his death.
00:09:08.000Not even the internet sleuths recognized it.
00:09:09.860We've been spending hours on this, and we did not recognize it.
00:09:12.020Until now, about six months on, people are going, wait, this is a minor detail that feels kind of major.
00:09:20.440So here is what, that is the option that I think most likely happened.
00:09:27.840Our toddler clues with my dog Blue are beginning to add up.
00:09:33.020Okay, let's start with that as our very first clue, which is, of course, Erica sitting at Charlie's desk without the wedding photo in the background.
00:09:57.520There's always more clues in every episode.
00:09:59.200Because then when we get into, when we go backward and we pay attention to things that Erica told us, we begin to reexamine what I now deem to be an objectively unintelligible story about how Charlie was so excited for the tour, despite the fact that he speaks at college campuses virtually every week.
00:10:20.160But he was so excited specifically for this event that he couldn't sleep, and also something about his daughter being in bed, and he had to go have a good night's sleep.
00:10:26.380I want you to listen to this now with new ears in retrospect.
00:10:31.500And if you see a clue, I want you guys to shout at the screen.
00:10:47.0403-ish to go into the kitchen to grab a snack.
00:10:49.800And our daughter had woke up around that same time.
00:10:53.400We live in a small space, so you can kind of hear when everyone's kind of shuffling around.
00:10:57.000And so she came to our room, and she stayed in our bed.
00:11:01.640And he always loved when Gigi slept in our bed because she's, you know, little ones, they, like, curl up inside of you, and, like, they're just nuzzled in.
00:11:09.380But she, you also know that it can be very acrobatic when a 3-year-old is in your bed, and somehow their feet end up on your face.
00:11:17.120So I said, I want you to have a good night's sleep.
00:11:30.960And that morning, he woke up super early, and he came into our bedroom, into the bathroom, because that's where his wedding ring was and his necklace.
00:12:21.400I honestly have done a lot of college events.
00:12:22.920I've never seen this level of excitement to go sit down with a bunch of teenagers, mostly, who are overcoddled by their parents and who are going to be shouting all sorts of questions like you.