RFK Jr. Attacks Me For Rabbi Shmuley?!!! | Candace Ep 59
Summary
Candace Owens and Rabbi Shmuley Boteik's debate crossed 1 million views on YouTube within the first 16 hours of the video being posted, and went viral on social media. But was it all a big PR stunt? Or was it actually a real debate about anti-Semitism? And did Piers really call her an anti-Semite or was it really a real anti-Jew debate? Join us this week as we take a deep dive into the controversy surrounding the debate, including who won and who lost, and why it was such a big deal that it went viral in the first place. Plus, we have a special guest on the show this week, former Democratic presidential hopeful Robert Kennedy Jr. joins us to discuss his take on the debate and why he thinks Candace is in the wrong here. This episode is brought to you by Humber River Health Foundation. Help us innovate to keep healthcare alive by making a donation at Healthcarelives.ca. From the discovery of insulin in 1921 to the promise of universal healthcare in 1966, now we face our biggest challenge yet, a cure for healthcare, reduced wait times, safer patients, and the end of hallway medicine? We re finding it all here at HumberRiver Health Foundation, and we re finding out all about it all on this episode of the new podcast, The Realest Thing I Can Do! Join our bi-weekly dose of Real Talk, Real Talk with your host, POP Buchanan! Popcorn Talk Network's newest podcast, Popeyes and more! Subscribe, Like, Share, Share and Retweet this episode on Apple Podcasts and become a Friend of the Real Talk? Subscribe to our new podcast Real Talk Podcasts Subscribe on Podchaser, and Subscribe to Seedspodcasts! You re not getting any more authentic, more like it s getting it all the real and more authentic than that! -Popcorn Talk is a podcast you can do what she Said Sober than you ve ever heard on the realest thing on the podcast I ve ever done in the real world? or maybe even more authentic and authentic, real and authentic like that s a little bit like that, right here on the ? or , right here at The Real Talk on Instapod on the Podchick Podcasts, and more importantly, real talk about it s a podcast that s not even better than that?
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, we are definitively trending everywhere.
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All across the world, people watched my debate with Rabbi Shmuley.
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In fact, it crossed 1 million views in the first 16 hours.
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And you know what's so great about this is I obviously did not speak about this on my podcast
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leading up to the debate, but I was just being, as I have been for the last two years,
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completely harassed by Rabbi Shmuley calling me every single name leading up to the debate.
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And of course, the media encourages his behavior.
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No one ever comes down on him and tells him that he's unhinged.
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Rabbi Shmuley, I guess he's got it all together.
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This is an actual headline in the Jerusalem Post.
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It reads, Shmuley Boteik vows to destroy Candace Owens in upcoming Piers Morgan debate.
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The number one trend on Twitter, Candace Owens triumphs over Rabbi Shmuley.
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Not that it was hard, but let me tell you something crazy,
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which I did not expect way from out of left field.
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RFK Jr., formerly the presidential hopeful, he has obviously gotten behind President Trump.
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Well, apparently he was one of a very small group of people who watched the interview and thought,
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You're not going to believe what he actually tweeted about the back and forth,
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because he's got to take a stance, I guess, on behalf of his former advisor, Rabbi Shmuley.
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So I'm going to wait to hear what he had to say.
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Plus, later on in the show, I'm going to be diving into, I'm sure you're seeing this
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Lauren Chen tenant media story saying that she has been let go from the blaze because
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she's somehow accepted money and there's Russian influence in our politics.
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I can't wait to tell you guys my opinion on that because I am chronically disappointed
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And you guessed it, my opinion is that everything is indeed fake and gay.
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All right, before we get into RFK Jr., I at first do want to show you my favorite moments
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I was going to show it to you yesterday, but I didn't want to scoop Piers.
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And I wanted to make sure that he got the viewership that he deserved for hosting us.
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We've had our moments in the past, but he at least allowed me to explain myself and
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to counter all the things that Rabbi Shmuley was saying, which was just increasing ad hominem
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If you at all critique Israel, you just face an onslaught of ad hominem attacks in the media,
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And like I say, there's a very tight knit group of Zionist media members and their influencers
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who constantly and consistently and purposefully take you out of context, right?
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It's not necessary to routinely lie and take people out of context, especially when you
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do that and deem yourself to be God's chosen people.
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Like you're lying full time while telling the public that you're God's chosen people.
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But there's this one moment that is just so incredible.
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I know that you guys have seen it, but please allow me to play it and pay attention to my
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Just so you know, backstory, I assumed that I was going to get ganged up on and called
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I never expected that Piers Morgan was going to actually have the tape from what I literally
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said many years ago on the topic of Adolf Hitler and nationalism, just after Shmuley had
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lied and tried to smeary as somebody who supported Adolf Hitler.
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And it really is one of the best moments plausibly on YouTube for all of this year.
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So let's take a look at Rabbi Shmuley getting caught red-handed trying to smear me.
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And when she said in 2018 that she has no issue with Hitler because he was a nationalist, but
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then he wants to go beyond her borders, even then we didn't call her an anti-Semite.
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That's an absurd thing to say that you had no issue with Hitler.
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Hitler, even domestically by then, had enacted all the Nuremberg laws.
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Just to clarify, let's take these one at a time.
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What do you believe she said about Adolf Hitler in the clip you're talking about?
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She said that there was no issue with Hitler except for the fact that he went beyond his
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If he was a nationalist, that would have been enough.
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In the interest of fairness, I'm going to play the clip so that viewers who've never
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I actually don't have any problems at all with the word nationalism.
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The definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism.
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So when you think about whenever we say nationalism, the first thing people think about, at least
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But if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine.
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He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German, everybody to look a
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So in thinking about how we could go bad down the line, I don't really have an issue with
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It's important to retain your country's identity and to make sure...
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That what's happening here, which I think is incredibly worrisome in terms of just the
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decrease in the birth rate that we're seeing in the UK, is what you kind of want to avoid.
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So, Candice, on that specific point, would you say that Rabbi Smuley has categorized it
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And that's why he didn't want you to play the clip.
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There were Jewish journalists in the room and nothing was written about it until months
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later when somebody was working on a hit piece about me.
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I was answering a question when they were saying, how can we just embrace the word
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nationalism when it sort of has this dirty feel?
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And I was just essentially saying that I actually don't have an issue with nationalism.
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I think it's totally fine to be a British nationalist, to be an American nationalist.
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And the problem is that it's wrongly attributed.
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That word, I think, people instantly associate it with Adolf Hitler.
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And I would argue that he wasn't actually a nationalist because, obviously, he invaded
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And suddenly you have people like Rabbi Smuley who are pretending that I got up there and I
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And this is why I say right now, please don't cut me off.
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A huge issue that you have right now is this dishonesty.
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If you really want to understand why Israel is facing a PR crisis, why Zionism right now
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to people doesn't feel good and they don't want to associate themselves with it, is because
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it seems like it takes such so many lies to maintain.
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There's no reason to misrepresent what I said and to tell people that I support Adolf
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Hitler, other than the fact that you want people to hate me.
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I can't explain to you how much I was bursting at that moment.
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You see, I look up from the computer and I realize that he actually has the clip and I
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So despite what Smuley is saying there where he goes, you know, when nobody said anything,
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The Simon Wiesenthal Center issued a statement saying, condemning me for supporting Adolf
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Of course, they intentionally stripped that clip out of its context.
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Still, you don't even hear if the audience member was asking.
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They were asking me and Charlie Kirk as we were Trump supporters on stage and that people
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And is that OK to embrace that as a Trump supporter, this sort of MAGA agenda, make America
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great again and say that you're a nationalist and you want to focus on America?
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And I said, yeah, if that was all any leader wanted to do was focus on making their country
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And yet they took that and they lied about that and they smeared me.
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You guys are saying that Rabbi Smuley looks like Satan.
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And I'm not even trying to say this in a mean way, but that is objectively true.
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When you when you do things like he does, when you engage in this sort of media spin and
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It does matter because you are ruining people's lives.
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You are getting people fired from places on the basis of lives because you're.
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You believe that people are forced to accept your narratives.
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Basically, if you have a disagreement with you, I will crush you and I will ruin you, says
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the man who claims that he's one of God's chosen people.
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Two years of harassment from him and his hag daughter claiming to be God's chosen people.
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So God wants me to ruin you, to annihilate you, to harass you, to call the FBI and blame
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Do you think the public is going to accept that?
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Do you think that when the public watches that and they hear him lie and they hear what
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I actually said and they hear where my heart was when I says it, when I said it, there's
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not going to be a worldwide reaction to recognizing that what I have been saying all along is very
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There is a radical strand of Zionism in the media.
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And these people need to start being called out.
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I am grateful that I have survived these attacks, that the people have trusted me more than ever.
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I'm grateful that people like Tucker survived these attacks when a couple of days ago they're
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telling us he's a Nazi apologist, like Tucker Carlson is suddenly a Hitler apologist simply
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because he had a conversation with a historian they didn't want heard.
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But not everybody does survive it, is the point.
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When they go, oh my God, you're so obsessed talking.
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Because there are so many people who have had their lives ruined because of these lies.
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And now we're starting to see the pendulum swinging back because people are fighting
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and people are revealing this sort of hatred and this sort of evilness.
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Another moment that I do not want you to miss, and it is quite stunning.
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St. Candace says Judaism is pedocentric, completely made up.
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Obviously, Shmuley went ahead and tried to sell that to the public as well.
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What I don't want you to miss is that when I presented to him a fact, a fact that had been
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reported by all of the Israeli media publications, by CBS News,
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about the bizarre amount of pedophiles that are fleeing to Israel for protection,
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American pedophiles can escape and just go, I'm an Israeli citizen now.
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I'm not going back to America to face charges after I raped a child.
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And that is something that everybody should be upset about.
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You know, Jewish people do not want their children raped either.
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Could you imagine being a parent to a child that was raped by a man and then he fled to
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a foreign country that your tax dollars are going to support?
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Now, regarding what he is saying that I said, Judaism is filled with pedophiles, that is
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I'm aware of what the first five books of my Bible are.
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That would be me insinuating that, okay, well, the first five books of my Bible are inspired
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What I said, and I'm hopeful that this is something that the rabbi will agree with,
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is that it is a fact that Jewish pedophiles, American Jewish pedophiles escape and run
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and hide in Israel where they are given safe harbor by the government.
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That is an absolute nonsense given the many billions of dollars that we give to Israel
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that we can't get back the men that are raping children, okay?
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And I can't imagine a single person that would think otherwise, that that is not a nonsense
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and that we should not be giving back those pedophiles.
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And to be clear, it wasn't Kenneth Owens who researched and came up with this.
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It was an incredible Jewish organization that looked into this, talked about how wrong it
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If you don't like that Israel is harboring pedophiles, that's not on me.
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Again, I am condemning the state of Israel for harboring American pedophiles and not extraditing
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Not only is that an absolute lie and fabrication against Israel.
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First and foremost, I just want to debunk your claim that what I said was a lie.
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It is in CBS News and it was the Jewish Community Watch, an American organization that tracks
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accused pedophiles who has been trying for years to find a specific pedophile.
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They are the ones that brought this to the forefront and CBS News partnered with them.
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Well, they were tracking down a pedophile named Corot.
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Now, let's go to the Vatican, how many people they allowed, how many cardinal archbishops were
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The pedophile who they were tracking down was Jimmy.
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What's the name of the pedophile they're looking for?
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The title of the article in CBS News is entitled, How Jewish American Pedophiles Hide from Justice
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CBS News teamed up with a Jewish organization and came to this conclusion because they were
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So courageous Jewish people who are calling this out as something that is wrong.
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Do we really need someone to read off the internet in a debate?
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Jewish Community Watch is the name of the organization.
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You could never attach me to my identity in any way, as a woman, as a black person, that
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I would be so extreme that my instinct would be to defend pedophiles.
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That part really just did not make its way around the internet enough.
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People were pulling clips and I was going, but this is actually the most crucial part because
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That we are talking, we are speaking about tribalism and fanaticism that has gone so extreme that
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the instinct is to scream and yell and smear and libel the individual who is bringing the
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Their instinct is to, you know, attack Candace Owens for saying it rather than turning to the
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You're not getting a single dollar until you extradite these monsters so that these parents
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to these children can deal with this trauma, can feel as if they received some justice in
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Those children are never going to be the same again.
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Could you imagine what it is like when you then have to deal with the double fact?
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You also have to deal with not just the trauma of having been raped by a pedophile, but you
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then have to deal with the fact that you know exactly where that person is and no justice
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And then you have to add to that more insult is that when you get older and you become
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an adult and you start working, your tax dollars are going to go to support that nation that
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won't extradite that pedophile who molested you.
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Now, in what world is anything that I'm saying right now controversial?
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In what world do you have an individual who will get up there and not only defend it, lie,
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Omission, trying to hide the facts, trying to obscure it.
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But then that individual is backed by presidential candidates.
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I'm not kidding, but we're going to get to that.
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After watching all of this, his response was that Rabbi Shmuley clearly in this is the victim.
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Why else would you want a pedophile to come face charges?
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It's got, it could be nothing else other than Jew hatred.
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And so I'm so happy that I was given the opportunity to present to the world what is
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actually happening in this country because they're seeing all the lies, they're seeing all
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the smears, but you can't unsee that back and forth between me and Rabbi Shmuley.
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And so now when those hit pieces register and they use these same tactics against more
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and more people, they're going to be asking themselves, oh, okay, is this what Candace was
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This is exactly what Candace, what I got to watch live, the lying and feeling nothing.
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You cannot be a child of God and not feel something when you lie.
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Despite all of the hideous things that he was throwing my way and the things that he was
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saying about me that were untrue, I couldn't do it back to him.
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I couldn't just make stuff up about Rabbi Shmuley because spiritually I would be in conflict.
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He is not spiritually in conflict when he does that.
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That's why I say for some people, it seems to be a genetic disorder.
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It's like they lie as if it's natural for them.
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Like they feel good after they lie in the way that most people feel relieved after they
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Truly, him and his hag daughter, they love suffering.
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You guys have seen it, the sneering when they thought that Candace is over.
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And so I will forever use my platform to speak against moral injustice.
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Like I said, at the beginning of this thing, these people supported me when it was against
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That was applauding and trying to make messiahs out of people like George Floyd.
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And I said, this is wrong because it was wrong.
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And I've always had the moral clarity to see right versus wrong.
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Now that the attention has shifted and the focus is on Israel, we're seeing the exact same
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tactics, the exact same BLM tactics to try to smear people and use the media hand to do
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that when people, again, have the same clarity and say what is happening over here is wrong.
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And that's all I'm going to say about that topic before I show you what RFK Jr. said,
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I like RFK Jr. because of the work that he did on vaccines.
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So he will always hold a place in my heart because when I made the decision or when I
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was realizing that everything that I had ever been told about vaccines was a lie after I
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got vaccine injured and I went to the internet when I was pregnant for the first time and
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I was like, I don't want to back our kids to my husband.
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And RFK Jr. really did put his reputation on the line, him and Andrew Wakefield, to create
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a wonderful organization called Children's Health Defense, which provided all of the
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information that I was looking for to sort of defeat the fear narrative, to defeat the
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fear narrative where doctors are telling you, you don't know the information.
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So I don't want to just completely denounce him or say this guy's all.
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In fact, that it's really incredibly hard to stand up to the medical mafia.
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So we know that he has this streak within him that is quite brave.
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So I want to say something very nice about RFK Jr., as I have many times on the show.
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Now, I was never going to vote for him because I didn't agree with some of his other takes.
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He is, whether you want to look at it or not, he is a liberal.
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But there were tons of people who really liked him.
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Definitely, I would say moms in the conservative movement really took to him.
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My buddy Dave Smith really liked him, had him on the show.
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And he seemed to have a, you know, a anti-war stance, so to speak.
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But not strangely, and I shouldn't even say strangely anymore, on the topic of Israel.
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It was kind of like his one area where he lacked consistency.
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So I'm just going to kind of remind you of that by showing you a couple of clips from
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his sit-down with Dave Smith, who's a libertarian.
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He's consistent, does not like war at all, wants us to just not go to war for six months.
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Like, can any candidate just agree to not go to war for six months?
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So take a listen to Dave Smith and RFK Jr. back when RFK Jr. was running.
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Do you have, I don't agree with that, but okay, do you have concerns about the level of
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Israeli influence in our politics here in the United States of America?
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I just, I'm not, you know, I'm not a politician in political office, so I don't see much of
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So you don't think like, so, so in, after 9-11.
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Listen, I think, listen, I think everybody has, you know, that there's so many malevolent
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influences on Capitol Hill, and they include many nations, and they include many, you know,
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Oh, and I, you know, I want to have a real democracy in our country where you have money
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out of politics and the influence out of politics.
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That's what I would like and have publicly funded elections.
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Oh, I don't think anybody, but do I think the Israelis have more influence than others?
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I, David, I believe in the, you know, in supporting Israel, that it's important to the United States.
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I believe, and I believe our aid to Israel at $4 billion a year is designed to keep the
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And we're seeing this, by the way, across the board, left and right.
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And I think the American people are starting to wake up to that, that there just seems to
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be this weird thing that nobody in politics will critique Israel at all, no matter what.
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Are we a sovereign nation is the question that we are now openly asking, right?
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We talk about every other nation's leaders, and nobody cares.
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This is a part of the same conversation because Dave gets quite fired up about this.
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When are we going to be able to just have a country that focuses on America first for
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real, not like America first, unless, or America first, sometimes, like actually, like
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America first, can we mind our own business and be a little isolationist for a while?
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Can I get one presidential candidate who doesn't want to support a foreign war?
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Can I get one presidential candidate who will say six months without war?
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David, you already said that you don't believe that those Palestinians or their offspring have
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I think it would be nice if some of them were allowed to, but I don't think that's really
00:25:13.800
I think what the battle is over is the occupation since 1967, the blockade of Gaza since 2006.
00:25:19.580
And I think what the battle is really over right now is what Israel is doing to Gaza, absolutely
00:25:26.360
leveling the place and all the while bragging about how they want to, okay, I don't know.
00:25:37.400
And I know you can say you're a critic of Netanyahu, but you support Israel.
00:25:40.960
But at the same time, it's like the guy is the longest serving prime minister and the
00:25:46.520
So if you're supporting the country, you kind of are supporting, at least to some degree,
00:25:53.060
It is the worst humanitarian catastrophe in the world right now.
00:25:57.860
And the idea that you, who are supposed to be the anti-neocon, anti-war presidential candidate,
00:26:04.220
are immediately on October 7th, before we even had an investigation, before we even knew
00:26:09.100
what happened there, you immediately say, basically, you said everything they say about Ukraine.
00:26:14.360
You said it was an unprovoked attack, which like, come on, give me a break.
00:26:18.300
An attack from Gaza against Israel is unprovoked.
00:26:21.360
And then you said, we have to support them in whatever it takes.
00:26:33.420
Every day you can't go on social media without seeing another video of some baby dying.
00:26:38.360
This is what we are supposed, after the last 20 years of disastrous wars, we got to support
00:26:43.820
I mean, sir, this is like a biblical level of evil.
00:26:56.320
So you hear all that compassion in Dave Smith's voice.
00:27:00.700
And so obviously, the only logical conclusion is that he, because he's Jewish, Dave Smith,
00:27:07.320
This is like when you get to the end and there is no argument, the media just starts calling
00:27:12.840
So like during BLM, when I was going, this is not good for black people, obviously.
00:27:18.720
Black people don't have a right to steal a flat screen TV because George Floyd died in
00:27:24.900
Which means we have no arguments against any of the valid points she's bringing up.
00:27:27.920
We have no arguments against the economic points that she's bringing up.
00:27:30.820
We have no arguments against the fact that we are actually burning down inner city black
00:27:39.360
Whenever you hear that, know that the person that is saying that has no other arguments.
00:27:45.780
As soon as someone says self-hating, insert, just say, you are a fraud, okay?
00:27:55.000
He starts talking compassionately about Palestinians.
00:27:57.780
Self-hating Jew, Holocaust survivor, by the way.
00:28:07.320
When you have nothing left, nothing else left, that's what you throw at people.
00:28:12.960
The whole world watched me debate Rabbi Shmuley.
00:28:20.680
And shockingly, the one thing that he didn't actually rebut was my opening statement when
00:28:25.860
I talked about Jewish fanaticism, when I talked about the fact that there are radicals in the
00:28:30.560
Jewish community, like there are radicals in every single community.
00:28:32.560
He sort of left it alone when I brought up his mentor, Rabbi Schneerson, who some radicals
00:28:42.400
So RFK Jr., after the fact, took to Twitter to write this.
00:28:48.180
This is just stunning, given the actual interview that we all just watched.
00:28:56.500
During her interview on Piers Morgan, Candace Owen referred to what she termed radical Judaism
00:29:02.600
and characterized the iconic Lubavitcher, Rabbi Menekim Schneerson, as someone who preached
00:29:09.400
These words are a sickening, a manifestly inaccurate description of a revered holy man who was
00:29:17.160
Rabbi Schneerson preached a message of unadulterated love, tolerance, respect, and universal justice
00:29:22.200
My father considered him a spiritual mentor and sought his advice on diverse issues of
00:29:26.960
He once visited the Rebbe at two o'clock in the morning.
00:29:30.620
As Americans, we need to distance ourselves from the troubling rise in anti-Semitism.
00:29:36.100
We need unity in our country, not divisiveness.
00:29:41.800
Yes, we must distance ourselves from the concrete facts plus the name of the Jewish authors who
00:29:48.860
I told you you could read to discover these concrete facts.
00:29:51.540
In fact, the Jewish, Israeli, Hebrew-speaking and reading authors were clearly just anti-Semitic.
00:30:00.860
How dare Candace share their book and share their words?
00:30:03.960
How dare Candace say, hey, they were able to actually interpret because they understood
00:30:08.700
the rabbi when he was speaking Hebrew, not RFK Jr., who randomly decided to pick Rabbi
00:30:18.380
Now that you have watched Rabbi Shmuley, the dishonesty, the deception, think about what
00:30:23.360
it signals to you that RFK Jr. picked him as an advisor.
00:30:29.800
RFK Jr. is trying to sell to you that the problem in that back and forth was me quoting
00:30:35.960
Jewish authors, Israeli, Jewish, Hebrew-speaking authors who interpreted the work.
00:30:40.780
And when they interpreted the work, by the way, of Rabbi Schneerson, they said, you weren't
00:30:47.100
They were saying that there was radicalism that was breaking out in Israel.
00:30:50.920
They were calling it the Jewish fundamentalist movement, right?
00:30:54.960
The Lubavitch in Brooklyn, what do we remember that from as of recent?
00:30:59.040
Oh, I think I remember that we were told from the Jewish media that this was a radical fringe
00:31:05.560
of people who were adherent to Rabbi Schneerson, who think that he is the Messiah and he is
00:31:09.920
going to return, dug a tunnel and were throwing chairs at police.
00:31:20.700
Well, I just want to be clear, just you watching this video of them coming out of the tunnels,
00:31:24.860
digging the tunnels, yelling at police officers, just for watching it and observing that this
00:31:30.500
Colvis is like watching BLM destroy property, that makes you an anti-Semite.
00:31:36.880
That's literally the logic right now that he's trying to sell to the public, that being
00:31:40.540
aware that Jewish fanaticism exists is what makes you anti-Semitic because how dare you?
00:31:49.060
Rebut the points that I presented to the public.
00:32:02.400
Because I'm pretty sure the rabbi, Rabbi Shmuley was talking tons, tons of crap about
00:32:13.940
No one writes a brave tweet and goes, oh, my, I can't believe she said that she knows what
00:32:28.600
OK, he wrote a book to two Jewish historians wrote a book.
00:32:34.940
And I want to tell you who Israel Shahak is, this guy that you're seeing on the screen.
00:32:37.260
He was a resident of the Warsaw ghetto and a survivor of the Bergen-Belsen concentration
00:32:42.880
He arrived in Palestine in 1945, lived there until his death in 2001.
00:32:47.560
He was an outspoken critic of the state of Israel and a human rights activist.
00:32:51.780
And so, yes, he co-wrote the book Jewish Fundamentalism.
00:32:54.580
And I want to let you know what he actually wrote in that book.
00:32:56.800
He wrote, quote, there can no longer be any doubt that the most horrifying acts of oppression
00:33:01.820
in the West Bank are motivated by Jewish religious fanaticism.
00:33:05.180
Jewish fanaticism, as in when you see the videos of Jews in Israel spitting on Christians,
00:33:13.520
Well, who are the fanatics and who are they following?
00:33:15.500
Well, according to Israel Shahak and his co-author, they are following Rabbi Menekum Mendel Schneerson.
00:33:24.460
And these are the quotes that they put in their book.
00:33:27.500
So if you'd like to rebut what they put, if your Hebrew is so on par that you can rebut
00:33:36.640
But here are the quotes, the translated quotes.
00:33:39.060
There are two contrary types of souls that exist.
00:33:43.020
A non-Jewish soul comes from the three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness.
00:33:49.860
Every Jew, men and even women and children, I think we have the clip of this, I'm actually
00:33:54.380
saying it, so there's no rebuttal here, brings about the existence of the entire creation.
00:33:59.960
They become masters over the world, and thus every single creation owes them recognition
00:34:04.520
Being that through the Jew, all beings were created, he therefore becomes the master over
00:34:10.280
Do you agree with these statements that you're listening to right now?
00:34:13.420
Do you agree with these statements which were published by a Jewish Holocaust survivor?
00:34:21.480
The next one is the Jew is in complete control, particularly over physical matters.
00:34:25.160
The physicality of the world itself has to recognize the good that the Jew has accomplished.
00:34:29.420
Through the Jews, they came into being, and their true existence is through their unity
00:34:35.740
Since God and the Jews are one, each Jew becomes a true being, and thus able to bring about all
00:34:42.140
He therefore, he the Jew, therefore has control over all of creation.
00:34:46.200
Not only that, but they owe him thanks, and are indeed thankful.
00:34:50.900
Now you can go look all of this up all by yourself.
00:34:52.680
You can buy this book, and you can see how this guy says that they intentionally have mistranslated
00:34:56.560
things, or they choose not to translate things.
00:34:58.860
And he speaks about this fundamentalist movement, again, the same fundamentalist movement that
00:35:02.600
we watched in Brooklyn last year, Crawl Out of Tunnels.
00:35:05.340
And then after you read all of that, I want you to go tweet at RFK Jr. and explain to him
00:35:09.340
why he believes that Christians have to just accept, because his dad took a photo with this
00:35:14.940
guy, that we just have to accept this sort of supremacy.
00:35:19.200
Some people, oh, yeah, he said that, but it's like, you know, in like the spiritual, so I
00:35:23.620
reject it, I reject Jewish supremacy, black supremacy, white supremacy, I reject it, okay?
00:35:32.100
I am so sick and tired of people that are constantly trying to train Christians to subjugate
00:35:39.680
Like, oh my gosh, you have to, my dad took a picture with him.
00:35:43.000
Obviously, he was a good guy, because I got a photo of him.
00:35:46.940
You're smarter than that, RFK Jr., I know you are.
00:35:49.500
And to the extent that you actually believe, and didn't have a figurative gun to your head
00:35:53.540
by Rabbi Shmuley following this debate to tweet something, to the extent that you actually
00:35:57.160
believe that I'm misrepresenting him, or rather, that Holocaust survivors are anti-Semitic,
00:36:04.800
Because that's apparently, that's actually the argument he's making.
00:36:07.480
This is coming from Israel Shahak and his co-author.
00:36:10.900
To the extent that you actually believe that these two people are anti-Semitic, I would love
00:36:17.580
So I'm, again, offering publicly to debate you on the writings of Rabbi Schneerson.
00:36:23.520
I'm happy to do that, because we have to stop the nonsense of name-calling people.
00:36:30.560
And if you go in through this guy's Wikipedia page, Israel Shahak, after he died, they allege
00:36:35.080
that he was, you go, no, you guys, no, you say it before I even say it, a self-hating
00:36:43.540
Even the Holocaust survivors are all, they're self-hating Jews that are dabbling in anti-Semitic
00:36:53.980
But RFK Jr., I welcome you to have a conversation.
00:36:56.440
As I said, I will always have respect for you for standing up to the medical mafia, but
00:37:00.520
this is disrespectful to the Christian faith, okay?
00:37:03.680
A photo is not enough to make words magically disappear.
00:37:07.320
You know, people say a picture's worth a thousand words, but sometimes it's really not.
00:37:09.960
And a thousand words are worth a thousand words, and that's all I'm going to say about
00:37:15.860
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It's always just the thing that we keep hearing about, and it's very stressful for me to watch
00:38:26.820
these sorts of things take place on X because it just makes me lose faith in politics.
00:38:31.440
And it reminds me that people in politics are terrible human beings, and you should probably
00:38:36.220
not have relationships with any of them if you can avoid it.
00:38:38.920
People, okay, so you're going to run for office?
00:38:40.600
No, I'm running from office because there's just such bad people that are elected there.
00:38:45.160
I don't know what happens, but everybody is just such a little snake.
00:38:50.000
And there's no greater proof of this than, so here, let me give you quickly what happened.
00:38:53.700
And there's a company called Tenet Media, and they essentially just push videos that are
00:39:03.680
And the DOJ has come out and is alleging that it was Russia that was funding that media company,
00:39:09.760
which was linked to right-wing social media stars.
00:39:13.560
DOJ alleges that Russia funded the U.S. media company linked to right-wing social media stars.
00:39:17.500
So they're describing it as a multimillion-dollar Russia-backed scheme to spread misinformation
00:39:24.300
and sow political and cultural divisions ahead of the 2024 presidential election, and that
00:39:33.680
They are trying to sow division because, like America, we're just all so unified that unless
00:39:38.900
Russia spends money, we're going to be like, no, we're one big happy family.
00:39:43.660
We love each other so much, so they got to spend money to make us hate each other, clearly.
00:39:51.240
And you realize that they realize that Tenet Media, which wasn't actually in the story who
00:39:58.860
Lauren Chen, I've had her on my previous show many times, and her husband as well, Liam Donovan,
00:40:10.380
But they're saying that essentially they were the ones that hired the U.S. content creators
00:40:14.880
who attract a large right-wing audience, and they've named who those people are.
00:40:19.760
You've got influencer Benny Johnson, you're familiar with him.
00:40:25.760
So all of these people were getting paid by Tenet Media.
00:40:29.640
Well, they're saying to the tune of $10 million, their content.
00:40:34.620
They were just creating content, and they received $10 million that actually, in the background,
00:40:42.980
Now, if you aren't a theatrical brat on Twitter, immediately you kind of go, but wait, these
00:40:58.540
Why would they be funneling money to Dave Rubin, who is staunchly anti-Russia, radically,
00:41:07.940
Tim Poole, also pro-Israel, definitely not a supporter of Russia.
00:41:17.120
I don't ever recall Benny Johnson being a supporter of Russia.
00:41:20.200
I mean, maybe he's made some comments about how the war in Ukraine needs to end.
00:41:23.640
But you're telling me that of all the American commentators to pick, this is the bunch that
00:41:28.380
they wanted to use Lauren Chen to funnel money to?
00:41:34.740
So, of course, because the Internet's got the Internet and they say, well, Lauren Chen
00:41:39.220
She's the one who pulled in these people and they're all denying it.
00:41:42.640
They're saying like, yeah, they offered us money to essentially just take the content
00:41:50.880
They pay us so that they can just have content on their website.
00:41:58.280
But I'm not speaking in favor of Russia or any of the Russian agenda.
00:42:03.900
So is Lauren Chen saying things that are pro-Russia?
00:42:07.540
Well, no, they're saying that Lauren Chen, and this is just such dishonest, dishonest
00:42:14.880
They're like, well, Lauren Chen is encouraging people not to vote for Trump.
00:42:19.220
There's not a single video of Lauren Chen telling people not to vote for Trump.
00:42:21.800
There are various tweets of Lauren Chen, like a lot of other conservatives, critiquing
00:42:27.540
And just to be clear, you are allowed to critique.
00:42:29.960
And actually, in a rational world, you should critique both candidates.
00:42:36.180
So if you say one critique about Trump, then I guess it means that you don't want Trump
00:42:41.640
Well, her critique was that marijuana was bad, okay, and that Trump shouldn't be jumping
00:42:48.360
Her critique was that Trump shouldn't be in lockstep with reproductive rights.
00:42:53.740
When he, remember a couple of weeks ago, we covered that, or last week, where the entire
00:42:57.800
pro-life community, by the way, none of these people sponsored by Russia, were up in arms
00:43:01.340
about what Trump said, not only about IVF, but what he said about reproductive rights,
00:43:05.400
that his administration would be the best for reproductive rights.
00:43:07.960
That caused a bit of a stir across the pro-life community.
00:43:10.920
So since Lauren Chen was also one of the people that critiqued Trump for those two things,
00:43:16.140
that's all the proof we need, that she's obviously an agent of Russia, and that she
00:43:20.360
was doing this, even though she's not being charged, that she was doing this at the behest,
00:43:30.720
Because first and foremost, anybody that knows Lauren Chen knows that she's a really decent,
00:43:36.960
I have no idea what's going on with this case, but to not even honor her with 24 hours
00:43:48.220
You allowed the Biden administration to set the narrative that there's Russia collusion,
00:43:51.980
and you want us to think that $9 million is what swayed the election because she critiqued
00:43:57.840
Trump a couple of times about policies that, just to be clear, are not the most conservative
00:44:04.340
So you can be upset and you can say, oh, well, you know, we're a couple of weeks
00:44:08.500
But to pretend that she's trying to not get him elected when she routinely mocks Kamala
00:44:13.860
Harris, like 90 percent of the time she's mocking Kamala Harris, mocking the fact that
00:44:19.560
Kamala Harris is trying to switch up for black people.
00:44:21.620
But we're looking for a reason to tie her to Russia.
00:44:26.680
The thing about the left is at least they are tribal and they will defend their own.
00:44:29.920
At least like Hunter Biden can literally get caught smoking crack on a laptop and they're
00:44:39.480
You're like, wait, he's literally butt naked smoking crack.
00:44:45.320
Look at this letter from intelligence agencies.
00:44:56.660
They absolutely love to see somebody fall, even if it's somebody who has objectively
00:45:14.560
But I do know for a fact that if you are an individual who is using your platform to
00:45:19.620
comment about nine million dollars being spent somehow through a Canadian girl and Russia
00:45:25.720
on a bunch of influencers who don't like Russia, if that's your critique, that this nine million
00:45:30.780
dollars made the difference and clearly she was trying to help Trump not get elected by
00:45:34.840
paying people that are pro-Trump, whatever, and you've been completely quiet about the
00:45:39.860
fact that it was just announced that AIPAC spent one hundred million dollars on our election
00:45:44.980
this year, I want you to know it's because you're a coward.
00:45:48.640
Did you guys know that there once was a president?
00:45:50.400
Speaking of hypocrisy, there once was a president named JFK.
00:45:52.600
Well, like to 1963, he had a little bit of a brush up with what was then known as the
00:45:56.880
American Zionist Council in June of that year, 1963, the American Council for Judaism issued
00:46:03.220
a newsletter saying that they were being asked by the Justice Department to register as a
00:46:11.000
And they had Senate hearings, two Senate hearings that year to look into Israeli foreign agents.
00:46:16.600
And JFK was demanding, his DOJ was demanding for the AZC registration, like you are a foreign
00:46:25.040
And the department wrote to them in October 11th of 1963, the DOJ wrote a demand to the
00:46:30.540
AZC, the American Zionist Congress, to respond within 72 hours regarding them registering as a
00:46:44.460
JFK got shot November 22nd, just a little over a month later, he got shot.
00:46:49.560
And I guess that just that ended up working in their favor because then LBJ became president.
00:46:53.880
And LBJ was very pro-Zionist organization because his mother was Jewish and his aunt, and this is,
00:47:01.840
by the way, looking at a Jerusalem Post headline here because I know I get in trouble for knowing
00:47:07.940
New evidence reveals the incredible aid Lyndon Johnson lent the Jews.
00:47:12.020
And from a direct quote from that article is, research into Johnson's personal history indicates
00:47:16.440
that he inherited his concern for the Jewish people from his family.
00:47:19.540
His aunt, Jessie Johnson Hatcher, a major influence on LBJ, was a member of the Zionist
00:47:27.700
Aunt Jessie had nurtured LBJ's commitment to befriending Jews for 50 years.
00:47:31.580
As a young boy, Lyndon watched his politically active grandfather, Big Sam,
00:47:34.520
and his father, Little Sam, seek clemency for Leo Frank, the Jewish victim of blood libel in
00:47:41.860
Fast forward today, AIPAC has just surpassed $100 million of spending on the 2024 election.
00:47:46.680
But please let conservatives tell you how they really feel about the idea of foreign influence
00:47:52.440
in our election, because everyone is such an honest, brave, courageous individual.
00:47:57.360
And they're really going after Lauren Chang because this matters.
00:48:01.940
They just want to make sure there's no influence, no foreign influence in our elections.
00:48:07.460
It is just one of these things where I, like I said, have just become, I don't even want
00:48:16.920
But I'm just less interested in politics these days because of this, just, just seeing this
00:48:27.280
Everyone's hateful towards one another and they love to see each other get crushed and
00:48:34.680
It's just like, it's just a game of thrones, I guess, so to speak.
00:48:39.300
All right, guys, now I am going to get into some of your comments.
00:48:44.760
Oh my gosh, I have the thing that has happened where my computer is giving me the rainbow
00:48:49.080
spinny things, but I'm going to go ahead and start reading some of these comments that are
00:48:53.100
Actually, we're going to read the top comments under Piers' video, the Schmooly-Kanis debate.
00:49:00.620
This person wrote, the word antisemitism lost its meaning thanks to the rabbi.
00:49:06.580
And thanks to him and many others that are in the Zionist, radical Zionist media circle.
00:49:11.880
Linda Jan writes, after two years of bullying, Candace, Schmooly gets offended that Candace
00:49:19.460
The audacity of him to say that was really quite stunning.
00:49:22.560
This person writes, quotation, Schmooly, I can insult you.
00:49:29.680
That's pretty much kind of been the world since post-October 7th.
00:49:35.080
And if you stand up for yourself, you just get double the hatred, whatever.
00:49:39.200
Erica Johnson writes, I'm a black woman and have never, nor will I ever refer to Candace
00:49:47.740
He's like the Jewish community calls her Candace Ovens.
00:49:52.540
I don't think that that would be funny for a lot of Jewish people, but I don't know.
00:49:57.320
Jacqueline writes, I've never seen a dude destroy himself in a debate quite as spectacularly
00:50:03.560
This next user writes, it's disturbing to me that this man calls himself a man of faith,
00:50:11.080
Mega writes, I think Rabbi Shmuley perfectly demonstrated the saying, the loudest in the
00:50:25.960
This person writes, it kills me how every single time this woman has debated a rabbi,
00:50:29.420
why they have never answered a question directly without attacking her.
00:50:34.320
I mean, what are, and genuinely, like, what do you have to do to become a rabbi?
00:50:38.500
Like, I just can't ever imagine like a Catholic priest doing that on TV, like screaming at
00:50:46.180
someone that way, lying at them, getting caught in lies and then gaslighting.
00:50:49.600
And I'm just wondering, like, what are the requirements, I guess, so to speak?
00:50:54.300
Then you have Omar who writes, if I was part of the Jewish community, I would never want
00:50:58.440
to see this guy on a screen again unless they're doing a documentary on mental patients.
00:51:01.980
Yeah, remarkably, not a peep from the Zionist media that spent the last three weeks trying
00:51:07.240
to convince everybody that I was having a mental breakdown.
00:51:17.080
And jumping into some of your comments here, Tony writes, I'm not a big fan of Lauren Chen.
00:51:22.240
She makes some good points, but but she sows division.
00:51:25.780
I like people that speak the truth and still try to create unity.
00:51:29.600
Yeah, I think there's a lot of people who are maybe feeling lost in the process of politics,
00:51:36.380
like and sometimes that comes across as you're not trying to fix things, you're not trying
00:51:43.960
I think that's kind of called taking the black pill.
00:51:45.960
And I think last year I was there, probably at the beginning of last year.
00:51:49.760
And then I feel like the more that I leaned into my faith, I kind of my perspective changed
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and I just got a lot happier because I just kind of know in my heart that in the end we
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And so if you if you've taken the black pill, I would like to suggest that you instead take
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And hopefully when you watch my show, you feel positive at the end of the day and you
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