Candace Owens - April 16, 2026


Secret Service Admits "There Was No Threat". ATF Releases Report. | Candace Ep 326


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00:00:30.000 all right you guys could you imagine threats so secret that not even the secret service could
00:00:37.540 detect them because that's what they're saying that's what they're saying the secret service
00:00:41.780 has come out and said nope erica's a liar and so was her mama okay basically i'm being a little
00:00:47.060 bit dramatic they didn't say her mama was a liar but i just added that i'm not lying as much as her
00:00:51.220 they definitely said she was lying there's no other way to interpret the statement that they
00:00:55.440 released i'm also i think it's interesting that they got a statement out to the press
00:01:00.460 Plus, Viktor Marks was, if you did not know this, I mentioned it yesterday, the very first person to announce on social media that Charlie Kirk was dead.
00:01:10.540 In a post that he subsequently deleted, he left it up actually for quite a long time.
00:01:14.740 And given everything that I have learned about him now, the allegations that he is working or was working with Israel, that information suddenly feels very relevant.
00:01:24.480 So we're going to review it.
00:01:26.120 And lastly, the ATF released their summary, not even really the report.
00:01:30.760 And it's a nothing burger.
00:01:31.780 I want you to know that it is one big nothing burger.
00:01:33.940 Everything else is just noise.
00:01:35.800 Welcome back to Candace.
00:01:36.820 I had such a laugh earlier because just this entire situation at the University of Georgia,
00:01:58.140 it's objectively hilarious. You kind of just sometimes have to stand back and watch it all
00:02:03.160 and recognize that we are, it's a sitcom.
00:02:06.060 Turning Point USA has turned into a sitcom.
00:02:08.020 Somehow Erica really thought 0.69
00:02:09.500 that she was just going to get away
00:02:10.940 with saying that there was this very credible threat
00:02:14.120 against her life and nobody would go,
00:02:17.940 oh wait, you probably shouldn't say that
00:02:20.960 with the vice president in the room.
00:02:22.200 Like you can't just say stuff.
00:02:23.360 I always, that's one of my phrases.
00:02:24.960 You can't just say stuff,
00:02:25.840 but you definitely shouldn't just say stuff
00:02:28.100 when you have the vice president
00:02:30.180 of the United States with you.
00:02:31.260 That would actually rise, if there was a credible threat against you, to a national security threat, right? You're saying my life is at risk. Okay, what? That means that the vice president's life was also at risk. There's no way to actually separate that.
00:02:47.160 So, of course, what naturally followed was there were some journalists who were alarmed and they reached out to the White House and they reached out to the Secret Service for additional information and comment regarding this alleged threat.
00:03:00.420 And here is the headline. This is in Barry Weiss's CBS, no less.
00:03:04.360 OK, so this is like she's got contacts at CBS and even they had to just run this headline.
00:03:09.480 Secret Service determines no credible threats to UGA rally after Erica Kirk's cancellation, the source says.
00:03:16.720 Embedded in the article, it reads,
00:03:18.420 the U.S. Secret Service determined
00:03:20.180 there were no credible threats
00:03:22.100 to Tuesday's Turning Point USA rally
00:03:24.600 at the University of Georgia,
00:03:26.520 even as a planned co-appearance by Erica Kirk
00:03:29.920 was canceled over unspecified security concerns.
00:03:33.440 A person familiar with the matter tells CBS News,
00:03:36.820 according to the source, that the site was secure
00:03:38.980 and there were no known threats to the protectee.
00:03:41.960 That would be VP.
00:03:43.180 Now, while Kirk may have received
00:03:45.000 hostile messages, including on social media. Those were not part of any identified or actionable
00:03:52.380 threat stream that was monitored by federal authorities. And let me interpret that for you.
00:03:56.760 Okay. There's literally no way to separate this. When the vice president is speaking,
00:04:03.180 if he's going to speak at an event and Candace Owens is going to be on stage,
00:04:07.080 the federal authorities are going to be looking online for threats against Candace Owens because
00:04:10.420 you're not going to be like, oh, well, that person said they're going to kill Candace Owens. But
00:04:13.700 don't worry, Veep. They're only going to go when they're there. They're only going to kill Candace.
00:04:16.920 She's interviewing you on stage, but don't worry about this threat. No, of course, they also would
00:04:21.660 be looking at threats against Turning Point USA, about threats against that were that were being
00:04:25.920 directed toward Erica Kirk. And they said this was not happening. There was no threat against Erica
00:04:30.480 would have been a threat against the VP. And I find it interesting that they got this out,
00:04:36.500 that they decided to speak with CBS, obviously off record, probably because what Erica said
00:04:41.980 embarrassed them, right? That would imply that her security team had intel that they did not have,
00:04:48.340 and the intel was deemed so credible that they decided that she could not do the event,
00:04:54.140 but the Secret Service just decided to press on and to allow the VP. You're basically saying
00:04:59.160 the Secret Service is not good at their job. And they said, no, I'm actually, we're going to come
00:05:04.000 out and we're going to clarify matters. This is mortifying for Turning Point USA. This is Erica
00:05:08.600 Kirk, girl bossing a little too close to the sun. She's just been getting away with all these lies, 1.00
00:05:14.780 making phone calls. And finally, the Secret Service just checked her. Now, it gets even worse,
00:05:20.080 and I am not sure how I completely overlooked this plausibility. Actually, I am sure,
00:05:25.180 probably because this option was so nonsensical in my mind that it did not even occur to me
00:05:32.360 to consider it. The idea that Erica could have actually been in Georgia already and that she
00:05:40.260 truly canceled in the last minute after she had already been to the venue, that never even crossed
00:05:45.300 my mind. I assumed wrongly that she must have been in Scottsdale, right? That's the only way
00:05:49.580 to make the story work. They said somebody was tracking her flight. Okay, well, obviously,
00:05:54.040 that's got to be a Scottsdale thing. In my mind, I thought this, right? And she then decided not
00:05:59.580 to fly in because of some threat. Ladies and gentlemen, I was wrong. That is not what happened
00:06:05.800 at all. Gratefully, I watched Baron Coleman's show last night and he offered this option and then we
00:06:11.820 received a tip that Erica was indeed in Georgia already. And you're not going to believe how this
00:06:18.540 actually went down, Erica canceling her event. So right at the top, I just want to say that us as a
00:06:24.240 society, we deserve better psyops. This is starting to feel disrespectful. She is all over the place.
00:06:30.240 They are all over the place. And I just want to say that we deserve better psyops. But I want you 0.99
00:06:37.160 to know that the lie that she told here is so big that it is worthy of not just her having to step
00:06:43.540 down, but Andrew Colbett should frankly also have to resign in shame once I show you how this went
00:06:49.360 down. There's something wrong with both of these people. So just so you understand what happens
00:06:55.000 when the vice president of the United States goes to any town to speak or the president of the
00:06:59.440 United States goes to speak, at least 48 hours before he arrives, the airport, the venue in
00:07:08.160 which he is going to fly into, everything is going to be swept and secured. People are going
00:07:13.360 to be sent ahead of him. Military guys are going to be sent ahead of him, ahead of his arrival.
00:07:18.080 Of course, they don't do this on the day of, right?
00:07:20.720 They're not just figuring it out with the number two guy in the United States.
00:07:24.380 So on the day of his arrival, they already know how things are going to run
00:07:28.620 and the entire perimeter, there's going to be an entire perimeter
00:07:32.020 that is set up around wherever he's traveling, right?
00:07:35.240 You're not going to be able to get close to the vice president when he is traveling.
00:07:40.740 So there is, in my mind, therefore, there was a 0% chance
00:07:45.180 that Erica had a viable threat pertaining to her travel while she was already in Georgia. I just
00:07:50.760 completely said that can't, that's not an option. It had to be in Scottsdale. But that's what
00:07:56.620 happened, Erica. That's the story they were trying to sell. And here's what actually happened on that
00:08:01.420 day, okay? Well, we'll start before. On Saturday evening, Erica Kirk flew into Palm Beach because
00:08:06.520 she was attending Bettina's bridal shower, which took place on Sunday. Here are some photos of her
00:08:14.260 on Sunday at Bettina, soon to be Trump's bridal shower. She's engaged to Don Trump Jr. I instantly
00:08:21.080 assessed that this was taking place on Sunday because Ivanka's there. And so is Ivanka's
00:08:25.440 daughter. And that tells us that obviously it's not Saturday because Ivanka is, they're Orthodox.
00:08:32.460 So that happened on Sunday. On Monday, Erica elected to stay in Palm Beach. On Tuesday, 0.78
00:08:38.980 she flew from West Palm Beach up to Athens, Georgia for her event. And I want to be clear,
00:08:45.880 she therefore flew into the already secured by the Secret Service, the federal government
00:08:50.540 had already secured this days earlier, the private airport and the terminal, the very same one that
00:08:56.900 the vice president was due to arrive in. Okay. Their story is done. It's done right there. So
00:09:02.320 we're going to look at the timeline from that day so that you can appreciate the audacity of the lie
00:09:06.660 that they tried to sell us. Later on, they're going to admit that they lied, but before, let's
00:09:11.180 get here. At 1.27 p.m., Erica departed West Palm Beach for the Georgia event. At 2.40, Erica landed
00:09:19.660 into Athens, Georgia. At 3.53 p.m., J.D. Vance's plane begins circling in the air above North
00:09:28.160 Carolina because this is when he receives the phone call that Erica doesn't want to do the event.
00:09:34.040 I'm going to assume Erica called him personally.
00:09:36.940 So you can see that little loop-de-loop.
00:09:39.260 We're going to come down here.
00:09:41.100 That made me more like, yeah.
00:09:42.500 And he just starts, I don't know if we're going to do this event.
00:09:45.200 I'll show you a clip of him admitting,
00:09:47.000 thankfully Barron put me onto this,
00:09:48.800 that it was two hours before he got onto stage.
00:09:51.020 So that's 3.53.
00:09:52.160 He's circling in the air.
00:09:52.920 He gets the phone call.
00:09:54.260 Erica's crashing out.
00:09:55.380 And she's not just going to be on the tarmac,
00:09:58.040 freaking out and saying there's no safety.
00:10:00.500 The Secret Service is waiting for JD to land, okay?
00:10:03.160 Like that this did not happen. Obviously, there was nobody at the terminal on her plane. She had already landed. So we can't be like, oh, she thought that somebody was going to put something scary on her plane. She's already there. And so that's what we have. J.D. Vance then lands, you see, into Athens at 4.34 p.m. So into the same airport as Erica. There's no threat. No threat. Nobody waiting at the airport. That was like, oh, no, you're good.
00:10:30.420 I know you boys are with J.D. Vance, the vice president. I'm actually I'm only here for Erica.
00:10:35.780 I'm only I'm only going to harm Erica. Five o'clock p.m., you know, the Y-Refi guy who's around too much. 1.00
00:10:42.160 He opens now every tour stop and pitches Y-Refi while he opened this event at 5 p.m.
00:10:48.740 And it looks certainly like he acknowledges Erica on stage and looks to the left.
00:10:55.500 He says her name and he says, like, thank you, Erica. I'm going to show you the clip because it signals to me.
00:11:00.420 that Erika was just off to the left on offstage. 0.92
00:11:04.740 Like, that's where you would stand. 0.97
00:11:06.180 I've done a million events that she was just offstage, 0.98
00:11:08.580 probably was going to come out and speak and say some words.
00:11:12.560 Listen to Lane Schoberger.
00:11:14.740 Erika continues to support and inspire us every day
00:11:18.220 to keep pushing forward and fighting for the idea
00:11:20.940 that everyone deserves a path to redemption and prosperity.
00:11:25.440 So, Erika, thank you.
00:11:27.320 Thank you for your friendship and believing in YRefi.
00:11:30.420 So, Erica, thank you.
00:11:35.380 I'm telling you, I am with Barron on this.
00:11:39.100 She was in the building, and she was backstage where people could not see her.
00:11:44.140 Okay?
00:11:44.580 And what likely happened was she then assessed,
00:11:47.740 they had assessed that people were not showing up,
00:11:49.700 and Erica was going into a meltdown.
00:11:52.040 Barron even pointed out the fact that Andrew was dressed way too casually,
00:11:55.900 and Andrew is, like, very metrosexual.
00:11:57.460 that he was just dressed way too casually
00:12:00.380 to interview with J.D. Vance.
00:12:01.360 Like this literally all had to happen last second
00:12:03.340 because Andrew Colvett does know
00:12:04.560 how to dress appropriately for venues.
00:12:06.080 He would not have been dressed like that
00:12:07.640 to interview the vice president.
00:12:09.160 And so this last minute thing
00:12:10.540 was Erica was already at the venue.
00:12:12.500 She realized nobody was coming 1.00
00:12:13.680 and she wanted to cancel the event.
00:12:16.520 So what happens is J.D. plane circling, 353, okay?
00:12:20.080 He then lands at 434.
00:12:22.160 So we're supposed to believe one or two things.
00:12:23.440 They just on the tarmac
00:12:24.760 didn't say anything to each other.
00:12:26.040 no obviously that didn't happen did not happen at all jd vance says he's going to go through with
00:12:31.780 the event and the first question colbert asks him he sets him up and says oh erica oh my gosh and
00:12:38.260 listen to jd vance say that two hours ago meaning when his plane started circling in the air that
00:12:45.200 two hours ago i didn't know if this event was going to be happening so take a listen well first
00:12:50.540 of all i love erica and i know that she did get some threats and you know about two hours ago as
00:12:55.640 you know, Andrew, I was a little worried that we were going to have to cancel the event because
00:12:59.600 Erica was not going to come and she was very worried about it. And I talked to the Secret
00:13:03.320 Service and obviously these guys do a very good job. And I said, you know what? Let's let Erica
00:13:08.000 do what she needs to do for herself and her family.
00:13:13.400 He's basically saying that the Secret Service said, we have no idea what she's talking about.
00:13:17.780 We're good. We're good. I don't know what she's having a meltdown about. We've obviously secured
00:13:21.920 everything. And he's like, OK, like, let's let her figure things out. And I'll tell you what
00:13:27.820 happened. Erica did not leave Athens until 6.39 p.m. She departed Athens and she headed back
00:13:34.640 for Scottsdale. So that's a long time that she was there. OK, Erica was there for four hours
00:13:41.540 and there was, as a Secret Service determined, no credible threat. They would not have ignored
00:13:47.880 a serious threat against Erica Kirk because that would mean there was a serious threat
00:13:52.200 against the vice president. She was interviewing him. You don't separate that. And what are we to
00:13:56.740 take from this? I just want to be clear, and I will continue to say this. I don't care if I have
00:14:00.980 to be public enemy number one. Erica Kirk is malevolent. She is malevolent. You have to accept 1.00
00:14:06.020 that because it's not only that she's capable of lying to us. She does it often. It's the manner
00:14:13.020 in which she does it. There is always a bend toward evil. Okay, let me explain what I mean.
00:14:19.000 Tons of people that lie. There are people who literally have to lie for a living. PR agents,
00:14:23.500 right? They have to kind of always tell us a white lie. And usually it is to afford some
00:14:28.380 protection to their client. We're used to that. Oh, you know, this artist is actually being treated
00:14:33.480 in the hospital for exhaustion. Okay, we get it. They probably had an overdose and they're probably
00:14:38.740 headed to rehab, right? But they're not going to tell us that because is it really our business
00:14:42.820 to know that an artist had an overdose? Probably not, okay? But then there are circumstances when
00:14:47.040 artists do something that is wrong and it's in public. Think when Morgan Wallen, the country
00:14:53.120 star, threw a chair out of a bar window downtown here in Nashville, which he had some bad luck and
00:14:59.680 unfortunately landed a few feet away from some police officers. He gets arrested. What does he
00:15:04.280 do after that? He issues a public apology, said that, like, you know, I went to the police station.
00:15:08.680 I wanted to make sure that I apologized to everyone. I'm not happy about what I did, blah, blah, blah,
00:15:12.200 blah, okay? Yeah, that's what you do. And you know what? The public is actually very forgiving
00:15:18.000 normally. I love Morgan Wallen. You guys are in trouble. It's almost like a part of his brand.
00:15:23.700 The public is very forgiving when you are honest and you own up to your own crap. It takes a very
00:15:30.920 different and a very specific breed of an individual to do something wrong and then to
00:15:38.080 blame the public, okay? To throw a chair out of a bar window and then to direct your public
00:15:43.820 relations team to tell the vice president that you did it because there was an immediate threat
00:15:48.860 to your safety in that bar. And that's ultimately the result of deranged fans online that comment
00:15:54.520 every time you sing a good country song and you threw that chair because you needed the fastest
00:16:00.120 route to get back to your kids at home. Oh, I'm sorry, now it's our fault that he threw a chair?
00:16:05.740 okay uh that's weird it's a little bit psychopathic only a very specific breed of a human could muster
00:16:12.840 the shamelessness that it takes to abandon your public commitment you committed that you were
00:16:17.720 going to be there you then decided you didn't want to do it and to be clear out of an act of
00:16:22.440 vanity you decided you didn't want to do it you were like oh not enough people here i don't want
00:16:25.860 to do this anymore and then rather than owning that and issuing a statement online and saying
00:16:31.040 like, you know, I didn't want to be there or maybe nicely saying that I'll come out in a couple of
00:16:37.180 days and explain to you guys why I pulled out last second. She then directs her her PR team 0.97
00:16:44.640 to not just make up a lie, but to create an existential threat to her life, which will 1.00
00:16:51.600 ultimately assign blame on the public. You guys fail to protect me. That's why I'm not here tonight.
00:16:59.180 that's vicious that's malevolent i continue to underscore what elizabeth lane the reporter 0.99
00:17:06.680 stated in her post that in her opinion erica kirk exhibits the attributes of a psychopath 0.98
00:17:12.200 that's that psychopathic thinking to turn it around on other people because you made a decision
00:17:16.820 and by the way i want to be clear i'm now of a different opinion as to why jd vans came out of
00:17:21.080 the gates with all that energy fired up about how she was being treated i have no proof of this i'm
00:17:28.100 going to speculate here, but I do know that when Erica did not want people to show up to the
00:17:33.320 Catholics for Catholics event because I was speaking there, wasn't speaking about her,
00:17:36.840 we're not speaking about politics, we literally was a prayer. She made personal phone calls and
00:17:40.740 she cried on the phone. Okay. J.D. Vance's energy is giving that Erica cried on the phone. I think
00:17:49.000 that when J.D. Vance's plane was circling, of course, Erica would have called him directly.
00:17:52.780 She would not have done that via a third person, a third party person out of respect. I think she
00:17:57.860 was on the phone with him she cried right his his energy is like the male i need to protect a woman
00:18:04.420 uh in distress like she's she's a female she's just i'm just scared and like i'm looking online
00:18:10.040 and people are saying like they're just saying that like they want me to die and i'm just like
00:18:14.500 i'm just so overwhelmed right now mr vice president i'm just so overwhelmed dab dab dab no tears i'm
00:18:19.760 so overwhelmed and he was probably like oh my god and my kids i just don't want my kids to be an
00:18:24.400 orphan Mr. Vice President. I know. I'm so sorry. That's what I think went down. Okay. That is the
00:18:33.100 energy that he is giving is like, oh, my gosh, I feel so bad. I need to protect this injured bird.
00:18:40.260 So unfair that she's scared. She's worried about her kids. Just an event. And the reality
00:18:45.540 was that Erica just saw the crowd. She didn't want to speak. She dealt with JD. And then she
00:18:51.480 directed Andrew to make up a sinister lie. We're not going to call it a sinister lie, right? I think
00:18:59.600 JD on the phone probably tried to assure her the Secret Service already swept everything and we
00:19:03.720 fined. And then she did something along the, I can't, I'm sorry, my family. And he was completely
00:19:08.300 understanding because why wouldn't he be? She's dropping like, I don't want my kids to be an 1.00
00:19:11.320 orphan, which is what he implies on stage, that the Secret Service had things under control,
00:19:16.500 but that he understood that she needed to do what was right for her family.
00:19:20.460 That's my best read on the situation. 0.68
00:19:22.360 I think Erica is calculated.
00:19:24.360 And I want to say to J.D. Vant, you better wake up fast, okay?
00:19:27.600 That's a black widow, my friend. 1.00
00:19:29.900 You will get bit.
00:19:31.900 And you should probably consult your wife on this matter. 1.00
00:19:34.340 Women understand these things better. 1.00
00:19:36.880 We know what women are capable of.
00:19:38.720 Men, it's good to have that built into you,
00:19:40.760 that your instinct is to want to defend a woman that is crying.
00:19:43.200 But let me tell you, there are some women that are crying
00:19:45.820 who will take you down in the end.
00:19:49.140 And I just, I gotta give credit
00:19:51.900 to the Secret Service coming out
00:19:53.160 and saying that she lied,
00:19:54.960 leaking to the press.
00:19:55.980 That is humiliating for JD
00:19:57.780 because he was manipulated.
00:20:00.020 But it also represents a PR crisis
00:20:02.420 of epic proportions for Erica,
00:20:05.040 make no mistake.
00:20:05.800 And I think it is obvious
00:20:07.320 that they have some crisis PR person
00:20:10.700 and Andrew was sort of made to step aside 0.80
00:20:13.000 because what an idiot
00:20:13.760 for not thinking that that would backfire 0.83
00:20:15.560 when you loop in the executive office into this absurdity.
00:20:20.380 And it looks like they hired someone probably in the last 24 hours,
00:20:23.960 judging by this article that I just read,
00:20:26.100 which I'm going to show you because this is the first time
00:20:28.260 that the PR was kind of good here for the first time ever.
00:20:31.980 Turning Point did not gaslight the public. 1.00
00:20:34.380 So whoever they brought in, they brought in a woman. 1.00
00:20:36.500 And she's like, just stop with the BS.
00:20:39.340 No one believes this.
00:20:40.760 And in the article, get ready for the first time,
00:20:43.540 they're going to admit that Erica may have done some things that are wrong. It's mind-blowing. 0.98
00:20:47.980 I couldn't believe the words I was reading, especially because the Daily Mail is one of
00:20:52.380 their favorite rags that just like does all of their bidding and pretends that everything they
00:20:55.500 say is right. It says, TPUSA cited concerns over serious threats to her safety, but insiders say
00:21:03.320 that that is not the full story. Kirk has faced criticism from some online commentators who felt
00:21:09.860 that her return to public life after Charlie's death was too swift, or that her appearances
00:21:14.740 struck the wrong tone. A close confidant told the Daily Mail, quote, she is aware of how she
00:21:20.700 is coming across. She's not stupid. She has seen the online comments. She gets it. It hurts. Last
00:21:25.980 month, the backlash reached a new level after a viral video by a comedian Drewski mocked Kirk's
00:21:31.520 behavior after her husband's killing, featuring exaggerated expressions and fake tears. The
00:21:36.420 insider continued, the Drewski video showed her what people thought of her. She's really hurt
00:21:41.440 that people are feeling this way about her, that they're mocking her. She pulled out of the TPUSA
00:21:46.060 event because of a bunch of factors. I don't think it was just security concerns. The source said
00:21:51.160 if there were security concerns, the vice president wouldn't have gone. That's the closest that we're
00:21:56.120 going to get to her admitting that they lied and that actually she was embarrassed and that's why
00:22:00.960 she pulled out. Right. That's like I was I was mind blown by that. And then it goes on. By the
00:22:06.820 way, they can never mention me without insulting me in the same sentence, even when they're admitting 0.73
00:22:09.980 that I was right. It says far right commentator Candace Owens, who has peddled outlandish 0.99
00:22:15.720 conspiracy theories about Charlie's death, suggested that Kirk's no show was due to low
00:22:20.500 ticket sales. But the insider added it wasn't just the ticket sales either. It was also mental
00:22:27.320 exhaustion of like, nothing I do will be right and people will make fun of me. So she canceled.
00:22:32.620 Okay. So it was because there were low ticket numbers and you thought that you would be made
00:22:37.720 fun of. The writer also recaps that in the weeks that followed Charlie's assassination,
00:22:43.900 she returned to the public eye, appearing at events and speaking engagements despite her grief.
00:22:48.600 Critics, however, claimed that her behavior came across as performative or unnatural. And the
00:22:53.460 insider says, quote, she says that she was putting on a face, a brave face, and that's why she was
00:22:58.360 doing what she was doing. I agree that it was a bad look. Everyone told her it was a bad look,
00:23:02.900 but she did it anyway. I know she's mourning Charlie. We all are. But she just has a funny
00:23:06.800 way of showing it. Do I think that she's mourning enough? That's not for me to say. But do I think
00:23:11.500 that she's coming across badly? Yes, that much is obvious. And finally, she's starting to see
00:23:16.120 how weird it all looked. That's a good thing. I just I've never seen it. I mean, like I read this
00:23:22.700 and I went, wow, they hired somebody who is not Andrew Colbert and they are copying to the fact
00:23:28.780 that they have been gaslighting us and that Erica has been weird and that everything that they have
00:23:33.100 done has been wrong and that they are telling us absurd lies and we are catching them in the lies
00:23:37.640 and they keep lying. Andrew Colbert should have to apologize. He should apologize to the vice
00:23:43.180 president. I'm sorry to say, but this feels like a win, right? We got to take it where we can get
00:23:48.960 this feels like a win like at long last someone said it's not working and we need we need to
00:23:55.940 pivot and that's because we have kept up the pressure and we have clocked them on every
00:23:59.320 single lie i'm at the point right now i want erica to just drop a book like if i did do it
00:24:04.540 you know like oj did if i did do it by erica kirk i think that would that would move more copies than
00:24:10.720 the book about shabbat anyway switching gears to her dear friend victor marx because we now have
00:24:16.600 proof that he did indeed announce that Charlie Kirk had died first, to the world first, I should
00:24:23.320 say. And it's very interesting. It's interesting because of everything we've just learned about him
00:24:27.540 and you wonder where he got that information. It's at least relevant enough to plot on our
00:24:32.960 timeline, is it not? I think so. Victor Marks was the first person who announced that Charlie went
00:24:39.920 to heaven is what he said. I'm going to show you that post right here. And the person who sent this
00:24:45.680 to us they sent it to us in eastern standard time fortunately they had its screenshots their buddy
00:24:51.200 sent it to them and it showed us the timeline but it says here victor marks wrote pray for erica
00:24:57.640 and their two little children who need the prayers now that charlie is in heaven the shooter is in
00:25:04.400 custody and he did a video and he announced that charlie had died and people in the comments
00:25:08.960 were like but glenbeck posted he's stable this is not confirmed who confirmed this i haven't seen
00:25:14.080 anything posted that he passed. And I remember this happening on the day. I do certainly remember
00:25:20.560 that Victor Marks was the first person to say that Charlie had died. And you should know,
00:25:24.860 but he posted that information at 1.13 p.m. Utah time, Mountain Standard. So that is less than an
00:25:32.520 hour after Charlie was shot. Erica Kirk's dear friend, Victor Marks, announced that he had died.
00:25:38.860 That's just 50 minutes after Charlie was shot.
00:25:41.760 Who told him?
00:25:43.400 I feel like that is early, and we should plot that here, revisit our minute-by-minute timeline
00:25:49.600 from September 10th and see where that falls exactly, because it's almost like he knew
00:25:55.700 with Erica.
00:25:57.080 It's kind of like how Bibi knew a little too soon that he had been shot, commented too
00:26:01.220 soon, just before the president of the United States.
00:26:03.700 and Viktor Marks put that video up at 1.13 p.m.
00:26:09.600 That should be when Erika found out,
00:26:13.880 when she got off the phone with the doctor about.
00:26:17.220 So the public didn't officially find out
00:26:20.260 until President Trump announced it at 2.40 p.m. on X.
00:26:25.140 Again, this is all in Mountain Time,
00:26:27.800 in the Mountain Time zone.
00:26:29.340 So yeah, he beat him by an hour and 27 minutes.
00:26:34.100 That is, it's weird.
00:26:35.680 I think it's weird.
00:26:36.360 You guys think it's weird?
00:26:37.740 I want you to think about that
00:26:38.920 and we will be right back after a brief break.
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00:29:29.420 Someone in the comments just noted,
00:29:31.260 and I don't know if this is right,
00:29:32.140 but if it is, please do send us an email
00:29:34.000 to moretipsatcannisowens.com.
00:29:36.360 They said actually they heard first from Amir Safari
00:29:40.040 or Amir Sarbadi, I think is his name.
00:29:44.260 I know that he's very much involved
00:29:46.260 in the churches and pastors
00:29:48.880 and with all of these people.
00:29:50.360 So if that is true
00:29:51.280 and you have evidence of that,
00:29:53.280 please send it over to us.
00:29:54.380 We would like to plot it on our timeline.
00:29:56.480 That would be interesting
00:29:57.080 because I think he is in the IDF.
00:29:59.420 Anyway, Victor Marks, back to him.
00:30:03.020 Well, Baron Coleman also did some digging
00:30:05.520 and determined that he is a licensed firearms dealer.
00:30:09.960 Another brilliant find.
00:30:11.780 Take a listen.
00:30:13.600 But Candace made an interesting observation
00:30:16.040 is that this guy likes to buy a lot of guns.
00:30:18.940 And what does he do with them?
00:30:20.580 Like, how does a private citizen buy 50 guns at a time?
00:30:25.200 And so we went looking, and what we found is he has a Class 1 FFL.
00:30:31.660 Lots of websites.
00:30:32.620 You can look this up.
00:30:33.380 This is one that we were able to redact his personal information out of.
00:30:36.220 You will find the Class 1 designation on some of the other websites.
00:30:40.680 But trust me, if you look him up, the Victor Marks Group LLC in Colorado Springs, where he lives,
00:30:46.820 you will find he has an FFL class one license.
00:30:51.940 What that means is he is a fire, a licensed firearm dealer.
00:30:56.480 He is a licensed firearm dealer.
00:31:00.480 Now, I don't know about your preachers.
00:31:03.020 I've had a few over my years.
00:31:06.500 I don't believe any of them have been licensed firearms dealers.
00:31:12.860 I've had a lot of political candidates that I've been around.
00:31:16.000 I don't remember any of them being licensed firearm dealers.
00:31:20.740 Sure is interesting.
00:31:22.380 I can tell you that Victor Marks still has not answered my messages, by the way.
00:31:25.840 Despite doing the rounds in the press almost immediately,
00:31:28.620 he is claiming that he is willing to sit down with me, but he's got some conditions.
00:31:32.980 One of the conditions is that he wants to be able to bring his wife, Eileen,
00:31:36.420 but he does not want Corby Hall to be present, the person whose letter I read.
00:31:41.820 That's very relevant.
00:31:42.760 He is a person that had the experience with you wanting weapons in Haiti when he advised against it, Israel.
00:31:49.040 It would just make sense that Corby Hall should be here because I did not transact with Victor Marks for weapons in Haiti with Jimmy Barbecue.
00:31:56.980 I got to tell you guys, I'm a gut player.
00:31:58.860 And just listening to Victor Marks' explanation regarding his dealings with Corby Hall did not ring true to me.
00:32:05.660 OK, I want you to listen to him explain.
00:32:07.160 He admits that he threatened to beat Corby Hall up, but he gives an excuse for why he did that.
00:32:14.180 Let me know if his excuse passes the sniff test for you.
00:32:17.680 Take a listen.
00:32:19.220 The one thing he said that is true is I did say I would whoop his ass.
00:32:25.980 And what was the context of that?
00:32:31.540 He was, you know, he's super depressed, having troubles, and we got him here.
00:32:37.160 And I was walking him around our training facility just for hours, walking, walking.
00:32:43.420 And he started making weird, threatening innuendos.
00:32:51.220 But I ended up taking him into the training center and teaching him how to punch.
00:32:57.000 Because, you know, he just said, I've never followed anybody.
00:33:00.700 I feel like a coward.
00:33:02.120 I said, well, you just need to learn how to do some basics.
00:33:04.020 thumb working on a bag with him to try to build up his confidence um it didn't it didn't last though
00:33:11.260 so just to be clear that little edit that we did there he's talking about the same day
00:33:16.520 so to recap he took corby hall came and corby was like i'm depressed and he was like well i'm gonna
00:33:21.680 whoop your ass it's just and then um they stare at each other and then they do some more walking 0.56
00:33:29.360 around the compound and um he implies that like he thought corby hall was said something with 0.80
00:33:34.960 innuendo i don't know what that means given the fact that he then in the next breath says that
00:33:38.900 corby hall has never fought and so he then took him to learn how to fight how to throw a punch
00:33:44.400 i just don't feel like somebody would go to someone's property who is a gun enthusiast and
00:33:48.960 a registered um arms dealer and would just start a fight not even knowing how to throw a punch but
00:33:55.360 that's what he wants us to believe like that corby was surrounded by military men and a massive
00:33:59.380 private property private bar private firearm dealer and thought that it was a good idea to
00:34:04.120 threaten the property owner who has the security all around and uh then they just were like yeah
00:34:09.440 if you just become best friends yeah let's learn how to fight yeah no i don't know elsewhere in
00:34:15.440 this interview the uh he's asked directly about trafficking arms and here is what he was asked
00:34:23.440 and here is how he answered. Take a listen. One of the primary accusations he has against you is
00:34:30.280 that you are seeking to traffic rifles to Haiti, Israel, and possibly Iran. Have you ever sought
00:34:38.300 to traffic rifles, arms of any kind to those countries? Of course not. It's illegal. How would
00:34:46.560 I even be where I am today for years of working with federal, state, local authorities, that's
00:34:53.760 something that he has dreamed up, I guess.
00:34:57.920 But it's real simple.
00:35:00.280 When people, and I'm realizing in this day and age, when people bring allegations against
00:35:04.580 you, I'm not one that has to defend it.
00:35:09.440 They have to prove allegations or they're discredited because everybody now uses those
00:35:15.840 words where you can't be sued for slander and liability, all that. So it's silly and it's sad.
00:35:25.920 So just to clarify, Corby asserted that Viktor Marks wanted guns sold in Israel. He never said
00:35:32.880 anything about it being an illegal transaction. He asserted that the Haitian arms deal would have
00:35:38.220 been illegal since you were not allowed to do those sorts of transactions with Haiti.
00:35:42.840 Federally, he was like, you can't do that.
00:35:45.240 So he cautioned, he declined and cautioned Victor Marks against it.
00:35:50.580 He also, and I'm speaking about Corby, submitted to me some text messages, which certainly go some way of proving that Victor Marks, at the very least, was in communication with Israel to purchase guns or rather to purchase the patent for his business, Fold AR, on behalf of the IDF.
00:36:08.640 So I'm going to read these messages.
00:36:10.580 And again, I'm happy to have Victor Marks on the show to sit down and dispute and say these are inauthentic.
00:36:16.720 But here they are.
00:36:17.520 Victor Marks wrote, I've tried to help you in three specific areas, your personal walk, your marriage and your business.
00:36:24.020 I'm still willing to help put a deal in front of you.
00:36:25.580 But this is my name, my reputation and my relationships that are on the line.
00:36:30.000 The Israeli defense group we are connected with is ready to review the patent and possible deal.
00:36:35.760 OK, so he's connected to an Israeli defense group.
00:36:37.320 These messages are real.
00:36:39.480 You don't know all of who I am, and that's fine.
00:36:42.240 I'd like to know all of who you are.
00:36:43.540 I think the state of Colorado might want to know all of who you are.
00:36:46.380 He continues, but understand this.
00:36:48.000 Just last night, a company that I'm part owner of got awarded a major SOCOM contract
00:36:52.220 for highly specialized work.
00:36:54.560 So I am telling you, God is moving, but he's not obligated to bless you
00:36:57.540 just because you're talented or wounded.
00:37:00.220 His grace is a gift, and he resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.
00:37:04.640 and so in response this is what corby wrote he wrote why so much focus on the idf and not as
00:37:11.920 much on domestic schools one to fund the other question mark otherwise just doesn't make sense
00:37:16.840 god did not have me design this for war if he did then it is for after schools if he did then it is
00:37:24.480 for after schools are made the primary for primary focus and we have only covered less than 10 idf is
00:37:31.360 not going to be using this for protection of children as a primary concern. Are they putting
00:37:34.700 men in their schools with it? Correct me if I'm completely wrong. I would hate to send a thousand
00:37:38.520 units to the IDF and have an unprotected school get shot up here. Which actually brings up a good
00:37:45.480 point. Can Israel guarantee to put one or two in each of its schools along with a military order? 0.66
00:37:52.380 So this is exactly what he said with what we read, that he wanted to make sure the primary focus was
00:37:57.980 going to be schools and that Victor Marks did not like that. And he started using, well, God and
00:38:03.520 this and timing and that to manipulate him. And Victor Marks replies and says, I'm glad you
00:38:08.880 received my words. Let's see if you apply them. Corby, focus. You won't be sending a thousand
00:38:12.380 units to anyone in the IDF. You will get a paycheck for the patent and possibly your company and then
00:38:18.160 on to your next adventure. So he's basically saying they're just going to buy it. They're
00:38:21.760 going to buy you out. You know, you don't have to sell anything to them because they just want
00:38:25.020 they want your patent, your patent fourfold AR. So yes, he is. If these messages are him,
00:38:30.980 they're not. I'm happy to have him dispute it. But I certainly don't think Corby made these up
00:38:33.940 last night. And he, I believe, said that this conversation took place sometime in April.
00:38:39.600 Skylar, is that right? I want to say it was April, but don't quote me on that.
00:38:43.880 It was. OK. In April, he's transacting on behalf of the IDF. I mean, is there another way to
00:38:49.760 interpret that? Like they want your patent so that they can go do what? Are they known for
00:38:58.320 anything good when it comes to schools? So that conversation took place in April of 2025. What
00:39:06.840 are we to conclude from it? I am happy, just to be clear, to have Victor on with his wife if he'd
00:39:13.600 like to have her. I have no problem with that, but we will need him to agree to sit down with Corby
00:39:17.400 Hall because he sent me a ton of messages and I would like to begin to sort through them.
00:39:21.940 Otherwise, I am happy to have just Victor on my show alone, one-on-one, if he would
00:39:26.620 like to join me virtually to more generally discuss his life and how he became so close
00:39:31.340 with Erica Kirk, how he knew initially, before anybody else, virtually at the same time as
00:39:37.800 Erica Kirk, that Charlie Kirk had died.
00:39:41.180 He knew before me, certainly knew before me.
00:39:43.520 I'll leave it at that.
00:39:45.200 I will leave it at that.
00:39:47.400 By the way, before we get into this ATF report, something that I forgot to mention to you is that we found out that Robert Maxwell, yes, I feel like a lot of this is circulating around Epstein and Robert Maxwell, if the former Mossad agent is to be believed, he's the one who brought Epstein together with Ghislaine, got him involved in arms trafficking first.
00:40:12.640 people forget this, this little tidbit. But also Viktor Atrofsky said the same thing. He was
00:40:18.160 initially brought in regarding the Iran-Contra deal in the 80s. That is what, dealing with Adnan
00:40:27.360 Khashoggi, initially that was what he was brought in to do with Israel. Got turned into a blackmail
00:40:34.120 ring. The Mossad agent that tells the story, there's clips of him, he says that he thought
00:40:40.380 that Jeffrey Epstein was an idiot, and they found more use to him blackmailing public politicians.
00:40:45.940 But originally, it was arms trafficking. I'm bringing this up to you because something that
00:40:49.480 I forgot to mention is that Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, was one of the early investors
00:40:55.840 into Bain Capital, Mitt Romney's company. Who knew? What a tangled web we weave.
00:41:03.160 The company was started with seed money from Ghislaine's dad. And then he's best friends at
00:41:10.260 this time with Netanyahu? Mitt Romney, they're a Boston consulting group. They're having trouble
00:41:17.420 raising money. He's having trouble raising money for Bain Capital. Apparently, the Los Angeles
00:41:21.700 Times did a piece uncovering this back in 2012 when Mitt Romney was running. They learned that
00:41:26.560 he was struggling to raise the initial $37 million that they wanted for their fund. So they turned
00:41:31.460 to foreign investors and Robert Maxwell gave him $2 million out of the $37 million, as well as some
00:41:38.140 other foreign shady investors. Here it is. Yeah, that's fascinating. Like I said, a tangled web
00:41:48.680 we weave. Eventually, I think we're going to need to put together a column of people that seem to
00:41:55.500 just be one degree away from Jeffrey Epstein on our spreadsheet. Eventually, that column might
00:42:02.040 become necessary because it just keeps coming up as a recurring theme. Anyway, back to the
00:42:07.780 or regarding rather the ATF. The ATF summary has been released. They're trying to make it catch or
00:42:14.800 pretend that there's something in there that's big or explosive. It's not. It's actually it's
00:42:19.580 non-explosive. That's one of the things that I just keep saying. And I want to keep repeating
00:42:23.820 myself so that you get this through your mind. They have not yet proven that Tyler Robinson's
00:42:29.980 weapon was even fired on September 10th. That's nowhere. First thing you would do if you were
00:42:34.820 brought into the police is they would do conduct that basic test to see if you had gun residue on
00:42:40.220 you. They would also test the weapon. Bomb dogs were brought in. They did not find that weapon,
00:42:45.340 which means that it was not recently fired. Neither the bomb dogs or the canines were able
00:42:51.260 to determine that. So that's a major problem here. From the beginning, I've been saying they
00:42:55.960 are not going to be able to connect this gun. My belief of what happened is that Lance Twiggs is
00:43:03.320 way more involved. I believe he's a federal asset. I believe as his roommate, he got Tyler Robinson's
00:43:08.680 gun. He got Tyler Robinson's casings and at an earlier time, and then that was dropped off at
00:43:16.540 some point, maybe the day before or on September 10th, that gun was dropped off and then it was
00:43:21.980 found. And that's why the bomb dogs couldn't find it because it was not recently fired. They can,
00:43:26.540 I believe, smell it. Even if it rains, they could still smell the gun residue up to seven days after
00:43:32.920 the weapon is fired. They did not fire. They did not find it. So it was not fired. OK. And so
00:43:37.720 they've released this ATF summary, to be clear. And the press is doing what they're doing because
00:43:43.300 they've been trying to slant this case in favor of the prosecution, pretending that there's some
00:43:47.600 bombshell in it. Just know that there is not a bombshell. It's getting no traction. But we can
00:43:53.020 pull this up very quickly. And it just basically verifies exactly what the defense laid out in
00:43:59.340 their filing, that all they got was this. They got a summary report and they told you what they
00:44:04.680 took a look at. They determined that the cartridge case matched the gun. That, OK,
00:44:10.980 the memory is carving the case. OK, whatever. We knew that I never was under any illusions that
00:44:16.820 this was not going to be Tyler Robinson's gun.
00:44:19.560 I knew that it was Tyler Robinson's gun.
00:44:21.640 I knew that it had his prints on it
00:44:22.820 and it also had six sets of other prints.
00:44:25.640 Whose prints are those?
00:44:27.700 Who are the other part of me?
00:44:28.940 Five other sets of prints that are on that gun.
00:44:32.220 That would be an interesting thing for us to learn.
00:44:34.820 And so it basically says, yeah,
00:44:36.500 the cartridges match the gun.
00:44:38.580 That's all happening not inside of Charlie's body.
00:44:40.940 And then it tells us that the bullet jacket,
00:44:43.520 the fragments from the bullet jacket
00:44:45.180 could not be identified or excluded as having been fired from the Exhibit 1 rifle based on
00:44:53.360 an agreement of all discernible class characteristics. And so now they are asking
00:44:58.720 or they are alleging that they are going to look into the matter a different way. They're going to
00:45:06.100 use microscopic comparison just in time for me to get a microscope for my birthday, because I
00:45:12.720 promise you I will do tests however they say they are conducting this if they say it works
00:45:18.300 they can conduct they can match this I will make sure that I get into the backyard and I make sure
00:45:24.940 that that is actually a manner that can be done I am going to become an expert at microscopes
00:45:30.380 overnight I promise you because this all now is beginning to look as it always has looked which
00:45:35.220 is like funny business they are just trying to make this fit they are corrupt they know they
00:45:40.660 don't have a case. They want to bring back old FBI tactics that were first put in place after
00:45:44.900 JFK was shot because they lied about that as well. And this is that all over again. He was
00:45:50.240 assassinated. I believe the government, our government was involved. I believe foreign
00:45:55.500 governments were involved as well. This hit was allowed to go through and that Charlie Kirk was
00:46:00.620 removed as a barrier to the Iranian war. That is my opinion based off of everything that I have
00:46:04.940 looked at and that many people are now engaged in a cover-up. And I also believe that they're
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00:48:09.440 I'm telling you guys, I'm getting a microscope.
00:48:13.780 That's a roughing around.
00:48:14.800 They're going to find out.
00:48:15.780 I'm telling ATF, you're going to find out.
00:48:17.160 I'm going to get a microscope.
00:48:18.440 I'm going to put on the glasses.
00:48:19.760 I'm going to do everything.
00:48:20.700 I'm going to examine whatever you say is the manner in which you do this.
00:48:24.420 You're not going to use a bunch of big words.
00:48:26.080 and we use analysis of the bullet.
00:48:28.020 Nope.
00:48:29.020 We are going to do our due diligence with this case.
00:48:32.060 If you are saying that this bullet,
00:48:33.760 which we were initially told,
00:48:34.940 they found the bullet.
00:48:36.720 Now they're saying it's a fragment.
00:48:38.240 Now they have to bring in special techniques
00:48:39.940 to try to connect it.
00:48:41.940 Doesn't make any sense.
00:48:43.160 Doesn't make any sense at all.
00:48:44.720 Top comment from yesterday's,
00:48:46.700 I'm sorry, from yesterday's episode.
00:48:48.200 That's correct.
00:48:49.100 Where was all of this amazing security
00:48:51.180 when Charlie said they're going to kill me?
00:48:53.780 They were receiving his messages.
00:48:56.080 Dan Flott was receiving his messages.
00:48:57.160 And then after he failed to protect Charlie, didn't even, as I am told from our sources, did not even do a walkthrough.
00:49:07.120 All he cared about in the lead up to that was ensuring that they had a clean exit behind Charlie.
00:49:12.440 They ignored the security concerns that were expressed by the school, that they shouldn't do this in an uncontrolled area, uncontrolled traffic area.
00:49:22.420 They put him there like a sitting duck.
00:49:24.400 They got him out of there fast.
00:49:26.080 And then after that, what do we know? Dan Flood gets offered a bonus and a raise from Erica.
00:49:35.580 Okay. Totally normal. Maybe you should add that to the Daily Mail article. Not the most normal
00:49:41.060 thing to do. Actually, you got one job and you failed it. You don't offer that person a promotion.
00:49:47.940 But she did. Robert Madden wrote, the only threat she should worry about is the truth coming out.
00:49:53.580 That is correct. Guys, I have to show you this tweet. Speaking of which, that took me out when I saw this.
00:49:59.940 I didn't even retweet because it was so good. I wanted to show you guys just on my show.
00:50:03.580 This person, Zach, wrote, I interviewed the chair sending Erica death threats, and this is what it had to say.
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00:50:40.820 I just love the internet.
00:50:43.040 I just love the internet.
00:50:45.060 The internet is just always here for a good time.
00:50:48.080 Okay, let's read some of your comments from today's episode.
00:50:51.680 Nikki Schumacher writes,
00:50:53.280 as a Reformed Baptist in the Deep South,
00:50:54.880 I have started worshiping with the Presbyterians
00:50:56.840 because I just can't with the false gospel 0.96
00:50:58.440 of Israel is God's bride. 0.53
00:51:00.560 It is just so obvious that it is a heresy, 0.99
00:51:04.560 more obvious than it's ever been.
00:51:06.880 Them constantly using Bible verses to tell you 0.88
00:51:09.020 why it's totally fine for Israel 1.00
00:51:10.520 to just incessantly murder children, 0.97
00:51:14.840 just to incessantly steal.
00:51:17.100 And I think across the board, by the way, 1.00
00:51:19.440 I find Christian Zionists to be worse than the radical Zionists that are in Israel. 0.99
00:51:25.140 I really do. 1.00
00:51:25.820 Because it's like, there's something especially gross about doing it while wearing a veneer 0.98
00:51:30.400 of Christianity. 0.97
00:51:31.180 You can almost understand it for a lot of the Jewish Americans, right?
00:51:35.040 In the same way, like I always say, like we were raised as black Americans and like you're
00:51:37.900 kind of learning about slavery and like that's going to be your scariest point of historical
00:51:41.200 reference in school. 0.98
00:51:42.480 You can understand when a Jewish Zionist, how they could fall into that trap. 1.00
00:51:46.100 And a lot of them are now waking up. 1.00
00:51:47.620 The scales are falling from their eyes.
00:51:49.060 they are not with bb netanyahu um look at the polls jewish americans are realizing he he's
00:51:54.860 just a mass murderer so he's literally jeffrey damer he probably he's that's it he just goes
00:52:02.400 but i call himself prime minister he's in prime minister jeffrey damer and then you have a bunch
00:52:05.720 of people trying to tell you why it's biblical what he's doing like constantly uh harming children
00:52:10.180 excusing the rape of prisoners who haven't even had any trials they're they're literally just
00:52:15.280 being held because they're Palestinian. And I totally agree with you that there's just an 0.98
00:52:23.120 awakening happening all across. And you can see that in the numbers. People are leaving
00:52:26.180 a lot of these Deep South Baptist churches because they realize they're not worshiping
00:52:31.360 anything but the modern state of Israel, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Israel of
00:52:38.740 the Bible. Biggie Kells writes, Erica canceled her fake and gay appearance because the true threat 0.86
00:52:43.540 was Drewski showing up and outperforming her.
00:52:46.360 It's actually funny because Baron clocked that
00:52:48.800 on his show last night.
00:52:49.680 He was like, I think she canceled the appearance
00:52:51.380 because of Drewski.
00:52:52.460 Like, because now everyone is like,
00:52:54.500 this is what the world thinks of you.
00:52:56.020 And she couldn't show her face.
00:52:57.280 And she should have just said that
00:52:58.700 or she should have said nothing.
00:53:00.660 You are allowed to say nothing.
00:53:02.420 You are allowed to say,
00:53:04.540 Erica, something came up.
00:53:06.220 There'll be more information in the coming days.
00:53:07.700 Erica's not going to be here tonight.
00:53:08.620 That's it.
00:53:09.420 But instead, Andrew came out there
00:53:10.980 with the energy of it's your fault.
00:53:12.500 And he should apologize, but he won't because he has exercised no humility in anything since
00:53:18.480 September 10th. It's probably who he always was, if we're being frank. James The Least writes,
00:53:22.460 I saw Ben Shapiro blaming you and your viewers for the threats against Erica. What a tool.
00:53:27.240 Why are you watching Ben Shapiro? Like, who cares? I mean, this is the guy that sits down
00:53:31.660 with BBNet and Yahoo and then tells us that Theo Vaughn is a threat to civilization.
00:53:36.700 OK, he like literally interviews mass murderers like Zelensky on his show. And he's like,
00:53:41.080 these people are great. What we really need to do is deal with Theo Vaughn, who's the haptiest,
00:53:45.240 kindest person. Theo Vaughn is essentially the class clown, loves everybody left and right,
00:53:50.260 makes everybody laugh and feel good. And Ben Shapiro, of course, could find a problem with
00:53:54.620 Theo Vaughn because since the time he was a kid, nobody has ever liked Ben Shapiro.
00:53:58.800 And the world's caught on. He's been buying views throughout his entire life. He's never
00:54:02.780 going to go away. Just get used to like that buzzing noise in the background. He wants
00:54:07.460 popularity he's never going to have it because of who he is as a person it's who he is has nothing
00:54:12.200 to do his ideas suck too but it's it's truly just how he deals with people and how he problematizes
00:54:17.840 people for having a heart which is what theoban has that's what he hates about theoban and he
00:54:22.200 wants him canceled it's just unbelievable tim morgan writes um oh i just read that uh oh the
00:54:28.320 most credible threat to erica and her crew is the truth seven sheets right if i am to believe the
00:54:34.140 truth always wins, of which I am not fully convinced, but I must support the ones that I
00:54:37.520 feel are searching for the truth. Brave and undeniably fierce work, Candace, prayers and
00:54:41.520 faith to cover us all. You have to believe, I'm telling you, in the end, truth does win. I just
00:54:47.060 know it. I can't explain it. You can see it because they're just too radical. There's no
00:54:51.360 strategy anymore. They're coming undone. And yes, there is a threat in their desperation. They're
00:54:56.720 chaotic. It's not moving like it used to move where they were trying to make friends. They
00:55:01.260 don't care anymore. Again, like I just said, they're like taking shots at Theovan, which is 0.99
00:55:05.280 just dumb, like objectively on its face. It's dumb. You know, you have to you have to be appealing.
00:55:10.760 You have to have people like you. You can't just make enemies with everybody. Your argument can't
00:55:14.860 just people. We have power and we're willing to to cancel people for not agreeing with us. But
00:55:20.580 I sense, like I said, in that a certain desperation, which certainly means that truth
00:55:25.140 is winning. So we have to be the happy people. We have the people that are laughing and just
00:55:29.220 commit ourselves to constantly telling the truth and getting around their cancel culture,
00:55:34.460 if you will. Miss Moxie writes, I need you to listen to the song Good Citizen by Aya May. I
00:55:40.540 feel like you wrote the lyrics for her. We love you, Candace. God bless you and keep you in God's
00:55:43.960 work. We are your army standing behind you always. Thank you. WeNotMe84 writes, maybe it wasn't 100%
00:55:51.620 vanity and maybe it was a bit more nefarious. The donors have clearly chosen Rubio for 2028.
00:55:58.660 Maybe this was part of the ongoing humiliation ritual of JD.
00:56:02.380 Blessings to the CO team. 0.53
00:56:03.580 Yeah, I saw, you know, I follow Mel on X. 1.00
00:56:08.860 Village Crazy Lady is her handle. 1.00
00:56:10.680 And she thinks that they were trying to make JD Vance look bad. 0.94
00:56:15.300 I certainly do think that Erica will dump him without question. 1.00
00:56:19.240 Like she will just completely do that because she wants access in proximity to power. 1.00
00:56:25.200 I mean, it's unbelievable how much wealth this girl has. 1.00
00:56:28.200 that she's traveling around the way that she's traveling around. It's just unbelievable. But I do 0.96
00:56:32.660 truly believe that it was the ticket sales last night because she went in, right? So if they were
00:56:37.020 setting him up, she wouldn't have even gotten on the plane. I think she went there. They thought
00:56:40.220 they were going to be able to last minute sell a bunch of tickets. They couldn't do it. They
00:56:44.040 probably had those students running around just saying, like, we'll pay you to be there.
00:56:49.120 And at that point, she was humiliated and decided that she didn't want to show her face. And
00:56:52.760 JD Vance did what, honestly, Charlie would have done. That is the difference. Charlie had
00:56:57.720 character. Charlie could admit when he failed, when something didn't work. And then he would
00:57:01.640 have been scribbling on a notepad. Here's what we need to do next to avoid this. And
00:57:05.460 here's how we could have been better. How can we be faster, better, stronger? What can we do
00:57:10.120 differently? And that demonstrates that he was a natural born leader. And Erica is not a natural
00:57:14.560 born leader. She is, I don't know, I don't even know how to describe her. She's ambitious as all 0.97
00:57:24.080 hell. And she has an idea of where she'd like to be, but she has no idea what it takes to get 1.00
00:57:31.380 there. And she's never demonstrated a capability to build something on her own and sustain it.
00:57:36.160 And that might be harsh, but it's reality. That's the truth. If you'd like to support our show,
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00:58:26.460 Anyways, you guys, we will...
00:58:28.720 It's Thursday.
00:58:29.280 Gosh, so I'm not going to see you tomorrow.
00:58:30.460 I will see you for the book club tomorrow
00:58:32.380 because we bumped last week
00:58:33.900 to accommodate Trump's tweet.
00:58:36.080 And so we'll see you
00:58:36.820 for the book club tomorrow.
00:58:37.960 A lot happening.
00:58:38.880 We're learning a lot about Freemasonry.
00:58:40.900 And yeah, it's getting very interesting.
00:58:42.940 We'll see you guys then.
00:58:48.100 We'll be right back.