Candace Owens - Erika No-Shows JD Vance. Public Relations Lies About Why. ｜ Candace Ep 325

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00:00:19.520 All right, you guys.

00:00:20.880 Shabbat shalom.

00:00:22.320 Mommy stayed home for the first time, I might add.

00:00:25.300 Ladies and gentlemen, congratulations, Derek Kirk.

00:00:27.800 I gotta tell you, I am getting too old for this.

00:00:30.000 I'm being serious. How old am I getting? My birthday is coming up in a couple of weeks,

00:00:34.320 and this morning I was having the team help me pick out a microscope that I want as a present

00:00:39.680 because I'm in my dweebing out era. I'm suddenly interested in DNA and cells, and I'm watching

00:00:45.460 TikToks from lobotomists. Like, why do we have to go to the doctor for everything? Can I figure

00:00:49.560 this out with a microscope? That's how old I'm getting. Too old to have to take time out of my

00:00:54.620 precious day to work through the latest turning point public relations blunder. Blunder after

00:01:00.480 blunder, lie after lie. They treat us like we are toddlers. They want us to make believe.

00:01:07.400 Yesterday, Erica no-showed an event, last minute, an event featuring the vice president of the

00:01:14.160 United States. How disrespectful. Well, not as disrespectful as the excuse that they are 1.00

00:01:19.620 currently handing us as to why. Plus, Victor Marks, pastor Victor Marks, have some respect,

00:01:26.540 he replied to me, and to be honest, the response was kind of weird. It's just weird.

00:01:31.680 I can't explain it. I'll let you guys be the judge. Welcome back to Candace.

00:01:49.620 So last night, in case you missed it, in case you've been hiding under a rock, Erica Kirk was slated to appear alongside her friend, Vice President J.D. Vance, at the University of Georgia, and she just completely no-showed it.

00:02:02.860 She stood him up. That is not casual. That is the sitting Vice President of the United States. It is low-key disrespectful outside of a real emergency.

00:02:14.520 Emphasis on the word real.

00:02:17.340 It was mystifying at first, really,

00:02:19.920 especially since the decision very clearly

00:02:22.540 had to have been made.

00:02:24.800 We were left to assume that it had been made

00:02:26.840 in the umpteenth hour

00:02:28.660 because the announcement was made

00:02:30.300 by none other than Andrew Colvett on stage.

00:02:33.960 This means that ticket holders were not informed

00:02:36.220 until the very moment of the event.

00:02:38.900 Actually, the turning point leaders

00:02:40.580 who put together the event were not informed

00:02:43.320 that she was not going to be there.

00:02:44.840 How do we know?

00:02:45.540 Because they were posting

00:02:46.940 and promoting her appearance 0.95

00:02:48.880 just 50 minutes before doors opened.

00:02:51.600 Here is a video of the TPUSA staff promoting her.

00:02:55.440 Take a listen.

00:02:56.120 Hey, everybody.

00:02:56.740 My name is Grant Teller.

00:02:57.760 I'm the field representative for the Peach Territory

00:02:59.720 and also the University of Georgia.

00:03:01.520 And I'm Caroline,

00:03:02.300 and I'm the University of Georgia chapter president.

00:03:04.420 And we are here at the Akins Ford Arena

00:03:06.580 about to host J.D. Vance and Erica Kirk.

00:03:08.840 Doors open at 1.50,

00:03:10.360 so come out and support your country.

00:03:12.120 We'll see you then.

00:03:13.320 they look sweet and happy and clearly not informed of what was going on.

00:03:18.940 So if the story that they are going to sell to us, that there's a threat,

00:03:24.520 then we have to assume Erica was on the ground, right?

00:03:27.620 On the ground in Georgia, something happened and she pulled out, but she wasn't.

00:03:31.460 She was back home, which means that decision had to have already been made

00:03:34.880 long before those students made that video.

00:03:38.860 Yet, Andrew Colvett is going to, as you are about to see, last minute on stage, inform and surprise even the event planners with this message.

00:03:48.620 Take a listen.

00:03:49.700 For those of you wondering why I don't have really flowing long blonde hair right now.

00:03:56.200 So I'm going to address it right at the front.

00:03:59.160 Mr. Vice President, I'm on stage here instead of our friend Erica Kirk.

00:04:02.820 That's right.

00:04:03.100 because, unfortunately, she has received some very serious threats

00:04:08.280 in her direction, which is terrible.

00:04:12.580 It's a terrible reflection on the state of reality

00:04:14.940 and the state of the country.

00:04:16.060 But it underscores a larger point that she has received a lot of attacks

00:04:23.240 from surprising places, perhaps.

00:04:28.600 Tell us what you think about that.

00:04:30.480 some of the people that have made, you know, part-time jobs out of attacking Erica. And this

00:04:35.260 is the net result. Oh, my. Is the implication here that it's our fault? Is it my fault? Why

00:04:43.740 do I feel like they're talking about me? Is that weird? She's not here. And come on, Veep. Come on.

00:04:50.500 Explain to everybody how it's actually Candace Owens' fault because she's being attacked,

00:04:55.740 more broadly speaking. What do I have to do with her going to an event? And by the way,

00:04:59.000 This is weird, but I told you guys I'm aging. I am so old that I distinctly remember when the messaging was the exact opposite. They were sort of gaslighting us the other way. Remember right after Charlie was assassinated, a lot of people were like, look, she's doing a lot. She's kind of just like doing a lot. Like I would be pretty scared.

00:05:19.580 And most of us, even people who didn't know Charlie, were scared to go out their door.

00:05:23.640 The world felt less safe.

00:05:24.720 But his wife was just fearlessly trotting through all these events, attending, speaking,

00:05:30.340 massive, sold out 21,000 spillover crowd at State Farm Stadium.

00:05:35.960 And the PR machine was like, oh, you noticed that she's doing a lot.

00:05:40.120 Well, let us explain to you why she has no fear.

00:05:43.640 Let me explain to you why she's abnormal. 0.97

00:05:46.240 She just sits above you all. 1.00

00:05:48.620 In fact, Erica Kirk herself jumped in and this was the reason that we were given via her interview with Jesse Waters. Take a listen.

00:05:57.960 Do you feel safe?

00:06:00.280 I do. What are they going to threaten me with? Going to heaven sooner to be with my husband.

00:06:06.120 And I don't say that to be reckless. I do not. I do not say that because I'm out in the streets like here I am. Come find me.

00:06:12.960 It's not at all. It's it's it's a fearlessness that's rooted in the understanding that I will have my day and my time whenever that is.

00:06:24.020 When the Lord knows that it's I've completed my my mission and I'm not afraid.

00:06:31.780 Charlie wasn't afraid either. We never lived in fear. If we did, we wouldn't get anything done.

00:06:35.060 and I can't help run alongside this mission of Turning Point USA and raise my babies with fear.

00:06:43.800 I can't. That's not a life to live for anybody.

00:06:48.260 So that was in her godlier than thou era, right? When we had, like I said, normal concerns like,

00:06:53.220 hey, wouldn't you be kind of scared for your kids? You're doing a lot right. No, Erica is on fire for

00:06:57.900 the Lord. And that's why you don't understand it. It's supernatural because the Lord is giving her

00:07:01.640 this courage. So I'm just asking the common sense question, what changed seven months on? What was

00:07:07.020 the threat that Erika endured that was so severe seven months later that she had to last minute

00:07:13.180 cancel an event with the number two man of this great nation? What threat could be so severe

00:07:17.780 that she didn't even trust that the secret service, right? The nation's secret service to

00:07:24.640 the vice president, he just got back doing negotiations with Iran overseas. It has got

00:07:29.980 to be a pretty good Secret Service, she did not feel that even they could alleviate it.

00:07:35.380 Well, we can always rely on Andrew Colbert to further illuminate matters on Fox News.

00:07:40.960 Take a listen.

00:07:42.520 It was a really unfortunate experience for me, too, just to have to watch that very difficult

00:07:47.860 decision get made, which I think is the first time that we've ever had to make that decision

00:07:52.840 in Turning Point history.

00:07:54.780 But everything that happened with Charlie, obviously, his assassination, we're still, you know, grieving that.

00:08:02.080 And you saw what happened with Savannah Hernandez, one of our TPSA frontlines reporters in Minneapolis.

00:08:08.300 And to see the security team, you know, tell us, we cannot guarantee your safety, we recommend that you don't do this,

00:08:16.500 was a really chilling moment for all of us to kind of have to internalize and experience and

00:08:22.180 realize that Erica Kirk is, you know, her children are one parent away from being orphans.

00:08:28.160 And sometimes you just have to say, listen, right now, what's most important is your safety,

00:08:34.720 is your security and your children, your family. Let your team handle this. Let us do what we can

00:08:40.600 do. And so, you know, I obviously was horrified at the reason why, but I was honored to stand in

00:08:46.280 and pinch hit for Erica last night.

00:08:48.340 And I was grateful for the vice president

00:08:50.340 that we didn't have to ultimately cancel the entire event.

00:08:54.300 He was willing to do it with me

00:08:55.460 and it was very gracious of it.

00:08:58.760 I'm sorry, guys.

00:08:59.720 I'm just getting whiplash.

00:09:01.240 I really, I just,

00:09:02.360 I feel like that's what we were saying.

00:09:04.560 Like, what could be more important

00:09:05.880 than being home with your children

00:09:06.940 when she was just all on the book tour and Shabbat?

00:09:10.960 And we were just told, no, she's a brave soul.

00:09:12.960 This is what she wants to do.

00:09:14.440 And the worst thing was,

00:09:15.760 she would be reunited with Charlie. And now it's so bad that it's requiring a level of Hasbro,

00:09:20.820 right? They're even going to bring in their Hasbro friends over at the Daily Wire to further

00:09:25.540 substantiate the matter because people are going, this feels weird. What could be so much of a

00:09:29.560 threat that they just let the VP, Vice President of the United States, carry on with the event?

00:09:34.360 People are noticing this doesn't sound right to us. And so since Charlie's passing with Daily

00:09:40.000 Wire, you will note, always has the inside scoop on what's going on with Erica Kirk for some

00:09:43.860 reason. And here is what they said on Twitter. They said, regarding the threats to Erica Kirk

00:09:52.220 that prevented her from attending today's events with Vice President Vance, a TPUSA official tells

00:09:57.220 me that their security had been monitoring the situation in the days leading up to today's

00:10:02.100 event. People were doxing her travel location and trying to track her arrival and departure,

00:10:08.860 I'm told. And there were multiple direct threats against Erica specifically. This ultimately led to

00:10:14.880 her security's assessment that they could not guarantee her safety. The event venue itself

00:10:18.920 was fine, especially once VP was on site, but it was the travel portion that was the chief concern,

00:10:24.700 the official tells The Daily Wire. Her children are one parent away from being orphans, and so

00:10:29.580 we take the security's assessments and advice seriously. Okay, so a couple things right off

00:10:35.880 wrong with that. Erica now worried about her kids. Yeah. Okay. This feels like a level of 0.99

00:10:43.220 propaganda that they have not hit before. You're also telling us now, because you're realizing

00:10:47.460 they're always responding when the public doesn't accept the first sloppy meal that they try to

00:10:52.160 feed us. They're like, okay, no, you're right. It doesn't make sense that the VP would be able

00:10:56.380 to attend this event and Erica would not. So let's switch gears. We'll say it was related to travel,

00:11:00.240 that people were tracking her plane.

00:11:03.860 Okay, people had been actually tracking Erica's plane

00:11:06.160 since the very beginning.

00:11:07.060 People were doing entire shows about where she was going

00:11:08.980 and how much she was traveling and how ridiculous it was,

00:11:11.680 and she never canceled a single thing.

00:11:13.380 So that's just on its face not true.

00:11:15.320 Secondly, if you're going to be a person

00:11:17.720 who is a public figure

00:11:19.200 and you are going to travel privately, as she does,

00:11:23.200 then yeah, people are going to be able to easily guess

00:11:25.980 which private terminals you're going to fly into.

00:11:29.520 They're not going to know which FBO, but you're telling me, what is the threat?

00:11:33.420 What could possibly be the threat to her travel?

00:11:36.060 She flies in and she flies out on a private plane that they just could not alleviate it.

00:11:40.940 What did they threat?

00:11:41.660 We're going to be at the FBO.

00:11:43.020 We'll be at every FBO.

00:11:44.380 We'll be at Signature.

00:11:45.440 We're going to be at Atlantic.

00:11:46.820 We will be there and we are going to boo you.

00:11:48.980 What is the threat?

00:11:49.880 Tell us more about this threat, which was specifically taking place with doxing her travel schedule.

00:11:57.040 What does that even mean?

00:11:58.200 Her event is listed publicly.

00:11:59.540 People buy tickets, or I guess not buy tickets,

00:12:01.840 but they register their tickets to go to these events for free.

00:12:05.680 So you're doxing yourself in order to be a public figure

00:12:09.520 that goes on a tour, right?

00:12:11.480 If you're a singer, a songwriter,

00:12:13.760 you got to say where you're going.

00:12:15.060 You're doxing yourself, but someone's tracking your plane.

00:12:18.820 Well, what is the concern there?

00:12:19.860 That could not be alleviated.

00:12:20.780 You couldn't have somebody on the ground

00:12:21.980 just waiting there to make sure nobody was inside

00:12:24.400 the private terminal, by the way. 1.00

00:12:26.740 This woman does not fly publicly. Yeah, like I said, it had to have been something bad. I'm not buying this plane tracking excuse. It seems to me, especially they're mentioning the kids now. Every time they do that, they're basically using every tool that is not even available in Erica's emotional shed. 1.00

00:12:44.960 So what actually happened? Let me back up here and give you some facts about the University of Georgia. There are over 43,000 students that are enrolled at the University of Georgia. This event was, as you heard him say, scheduled to take place at the Akins Ford Arena at the Classic Center, which is near the University of Georgia.

00:13:04.500 The stadium holds just 7000 people. So they were hoping with an announcement that the vice president of the United States was going to be attending, that it was a guarantee that they would be able to peel off something like 15 percent of the student body to attend.

00:13:19.340 But actually, they needed even less than that because to make matters easier for them, they also opened the tickets, the free tickets, to the general public.

00:13:29.060 So forget having to get 15% of the student body to sign up.

00:13:34.200 They just needed generally 7,000 people in the area that wanted to support MAGA and or the rock star widow, Erica Kirk.

00:13:45.300 Reality, nobody wanted to attend.

00:13:47.580 The ticket numbers were abysmal. That is what happens. And I want you to know that that is what has been happening. So in the umpteenth hour, they decided to cancel her appearance. And here is the evidence of what that event looked like. Here's a tweet with an accompanying clip, which was taken from reporter Jake Traylor, who is a reporter with MS Now. Take a look at this tweet.

00:14:11.220 And the accompanying video of the auditorium, he wrote, Turning Point USA seems to have misestimated crowd size for Vance. The Akins Ford Arena less than 25 percent filled for the vice president.

00:14:23.860 Now, he's assuming it's because of Vance, right, that people are not showing. Could be another reason. A person who was supposed to be there until the umpteenth hour, people could be turning down that particular opportunity. And I'm sure everything Vance and Trump are doing at this current moment isn't helping much either.

00:14:42.440 In fact, it was so bad, right?

00:14:46.800 The turnout was so bad that if we go back and re-watch that Fox News clip, they're actually

00:14:52.940 showing you fake footage.

00:14:55.060 Well, it's not fake footage.

00:14:55.980 It's real footage, but it's fake B-roll because it's from old Turning Point events.

00:15:00.860 This is how sloppy the Hasbro is.

00:15:02.920 We'll show you this.

00:15:03.560 We'll scroll here.

00:15:05.060 Not the venue.

00:15:06.380 Not the venue.

00:15:07.380 And yet in the corner, it says Andrew Colvette via X on Tuesday because it says it says Athens, Georgia. This is not true. This is true propaganda. And we took a closer look at it and they actually spliced together three separate events so that they could show something of substance when Andrew spoke.

00:15:27.580 That is humiliating. That is humiliating. And he's there pitching a story, a sad story about why they couldn't do it because it's your guys fault. You didn't keep Erica safe. Now, I am told by Turning Point USA college students and volunteers that this has been a repeat problem, that they similarly had a very hard time moving tickets for her event in Washington, D.C. with Caroline Levitt.

00:15:54.060 They just could not hit capacity. They never did, despite effectively turning these events.

00:15:59.060 They're not even a white's called a college tour anymore. It's just anybody in the public

00:16:02.880 general admission that is willing to come listen to Erica Kirk speak for free. Please come. They're

00:16:09.240 going to eventually start paying people to attend these events and they cannot sell out even a small

00:16:13.660 auditorium. And yesterday, it looks like was the worst audience turnout in Turning Point's history.

00:16:20.820 Okay, let me repeat that.

00:16:22.080 Under Erica Kirk's stewardship,

00:16:23.820 Turning Point USA is now facing a crisis.

00:16:26.120 It is the worst turnout in the organization's history,

00:16:28.880 even with a feature alongside

00:16:30.980 the Vice President of the United States.

00:16:33.340 Similarly, they had to move the Believers Summit,

00:16:36.580 something that they advertised for last year.

00:16:38.620 It was slated to take place back in October,

00:16:41.940 but they could not move any free tickets.

00:16:46.300 Erica knew that she was not coming

00:16:50.160 long before Andrew Colbert made the announcement on stage,

00:16:53.300 yet she did not make a statement herself

00:16:55.620 until after the event began.

00:16:57.920 What gives?

00:16:58.660 Here's what she wrote on X.

00:16:59.620 She retweeted a clip from the event and she wrote this.

00:17:02.920 I was so looking forward to tonight's event

00:17:04.980 at the University of Georgia with our vice president,

00:17:07.440 but after all our family has been through,

00:17:10.620 I take my security team's recommendations

00:17:12.620 extremely seriously.

00:17:13.860 Thank you to our amazing Georgia chapter for your support. God bless you all. I can't stand

00:17:21.540 the lying, the constant lying, and she is not being honest. Okay, she moves things off of her

00:17:30.020 calendar. She will make it work. White House here, over the weekend, she was at Bettina at

00:17:37.320 Mar-a-Lago, the one who's marrying Don Trump Jr. She was at her bridal shower. Erica will be

00:17:42.280 wherever it is that she needs to be,

00:17:44.640 that is not the reason that she chose not to show up.

00:17:46.720 And how do we know that this was not

00:17:49.060 some last minute cancellation related to a threat?

00:17:52.280 Well, first off, common sense.

00:17:53.800 I knew they were lying

00:17:54.560 as soon as Andrew announced it on stage.

00:17:56.700 Take it from someone who has endured a great many threats.

00:17:59.000 The last thing you do is announce a threat on stage

00:18:01.960 when one is happening.

00:18:03.080 In fact, I have dealt with threats

00:18:04.340 at Turning Point USA events

00:18:05.760 where we have had to inform them,

00:18:07.880 this guy who was completely insane

00:18:09.540 and escaped a mental institution

00:18:11.400 or a mental hold, and they didn't know where he was.

00:18:15.420 They alerted us, and I was doing an event in Nashville with Charlie.

00:18:19.020 We had to alert the security team.

00:18:21.060 Nobody goes out and says, hey, Candace has a threat.

00:18:23.840 That's why she's not here.

00:18:24.780 And you know what?

00:18:26.460 Would you like to, J.D., let me give you the stage to blame everybody

00:18:30.000 for her having this threat?

00:18:31.340 That is so performative and outlandish that I instantly knew

00:18:34.420 that it didn't pass the sniff test.

00:18:36.800 But another way that we can confirm that we know this is not real

00:18:40.200 and they're making this up is because Erica was also slated to speak yesterday at 1.30 p.m. in

00:18:45.720 Georgia at a local high school. But she canceled that event and she didn't cancel it last second.

00:18:51.100 She canceled it the day before on Monday. OK, so Tuesday, yesterday, she has a 1.30 event and then

00:18:58.580 she has an evening event with J.D. Vance. But on Monday at noon, she had already informed the high

00:19:04.160 school that she was not going to be in attendance a full day before her last minute on stage

00:19:09.760 cancellation of her event with JD that the students did not even know about. So she honored

00:19:13.640 the high school students with information, but did not honor the college students with any

00:19:17.440 information, making them look like fools outside. Okay. And they, how did they do it? They emailed

00:19:23.480 and they texted and informed the parents at school that her appearance had been canceled and they

00:19:29.120 gave a reason. And that reason was not security. Let's read it together. Here is the text that went

00:19:34.640 out canceling the high school event. It reads, first, you can see they set this event up on

00:19:40.240 March 30th. On Monday, you can see that it reads, parent alert, due to scheduling complications,

00:19:48.800 the optional Turning Point USA high school event scheduled for tomorrow, September 14th,

00:19:53.260 has been canceled. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused and are

00:19:57.280 hopeful for other Turning Point USA opportunities in the future. Okay. A scheduling conflict.

00:20:03.920 A scheduling conflict, not a threat, but a scheduling conflict.

00:20:07.020 Now, if there were a viable threat, wouldn't it have been prudent to inform the administration of a high school?

00:20:14.020 Even if it was an airplane-related threat that, oh, if it's so serious, like someone's going to harm her, you tell the high school, hey, we have a very viable threat right now.

00:20:23.140 We don't want to bring this to you.

00:20:24.180 They were not informed that.

00:20:25.160 They were just told it was a scheduling issue, and there was not some significant thing that was pending in the background.

00:20:31.860 which caused her to abandon her previous

00:20:35.380 God's got me philosophy.

00:20:37.840 So like I said,

00:20:39.800 don't you think her staff would have let the high schoolers know

00:20:41.940 there was a threat?

00:20:43.060 That would have been the responsible thing to do.

00:20:44.480 I am told the truth is again

00:20:46.220 that there was immediate parental backlash already

00:20:49.680 that kept happening because she was announced

00:20:51.880 and they basically said,

00:20:53.380 okay, this is an optional event.

00:20:55.360 They then ended up that there was going to be abysmal attendance,

00:20:58.880 meaning nothing that they could record on social media

00:21:01.060 to make it look like she's, you know, 0.82

00:21:03.080 got the crowd going crazy.

00:21:05.040 And so it was nothing for her to look forward to.

00:21:06.900 And so she skipped it.

00:21:08.540 This keeps happening.

00:21:09.460 Parents and students are organizing against her

00:21:12.100 for a variety of reasons.

00:21:13.920 Some of them, those reasons that we have laid out

00:21:16.160 on the show, they do not trust her.

00:21:18.140 They do not believe her.

00:21:19.320 And I can give you, provide more proof for you

00:21:22.220 by way of a parental chat on Facebook

00:21:25.480 that is currently going on right now

00:21:27.680 regarding another event that she has coming up

00:21:30.260 at a high school in Phoenix,

00:21:32.180 right in her backyard, no less.

00:21:34.320 And this is a Pinnacle High School.

00:21:35.740 The parents are organizing.

00:21:37.400 Take a look at this chat.

00:21:38.960 This is a parent that posted saying,

00:21:40.720 I am very concerned,

00:21:42.280 learning that Erica Kirk is going to be speaking.

00:21:44.040 And then you can see an anonymous member wrote below,

00:21:46.800 as a teacher, I find this highly inappropriate

00:21:49.320 and a safety risk to our students and staff.

00:21:52.740 Also, as a teacher, I know the district

00:21:54.360 may care more about attendance more than anything else.

00:21:57.720 So call your kids out of school

00:21:59.360 and that will send a message.

00:22:00.880 They are basically 36 likes.

00:22:03.040 They are organizing essentially a walkout,

00:22:06.160 a boycott of Erica Kirk, okay?

00:22:09.320 I haven't reported on this stuff in the past.

00:22:11.120 I've been very aware of this is going on.

00:22:12.800 The reason why I am now laying this out today

00:22:14.860 is because what enrages me so much about the messaging,

00:22:18.140 the setup there by Andrew Colvett

00:22:19.480 is that it is akin to narcissistic abuse.

00:22:22.740 They can never admit that they have failed

00:22:25.180 or that they have done anything wrong.

00:22:26.760 So what do they do?

00:22:27.360 they tell the public that it's our fault. It's your fault. This wouldn't happen. This wouldn't

00:22:33.660 happen if you guys would just stop criticizing her. That's completely psychopathic. We don't 1.00

00:22:38.180 accept that. We reject that. Okay, no one does this. People cancel events last minute for a

00:22:42.300 variety of reasons. He got drunk last night. He's hungover. Their PR comes out, makes an excuse. He

00:22:48.460 had a mental breakdown backstage. We've seen a lot, especially in the land of rock and roll.

00:22:53.960 Oh, I lost my throat.

00:22:55.220 I lost my voice.

00:22:56.020 I won't be able to sing tonight.

00:22:57.500 Probably was partying.

00:22:59.200 I want you to actually go through your mind.

00:23:01.500 Of all the famous people that you know

00:23:02.840 who have canceled events last minute,

00:23:04.240 when do you ever recall management coming out

00:23:06.860 with messaging that implies that actually,

00:23:09.300 it's your fault.

00:23:11.260 It's the public's fault.

00:23:12.580 You didn't keep this person safe.

00:23:15.600 They couldn't come out tonight

00:23:16.560 because you failed this person.

00:23:19.520 Well, that's exactly what the messaging was.

00:23:21.720 and you should be infuriated about it.

00:23:23.760 It is ridiculous.

00:23:24.720 They are now paying influencers. 0.76

00:23:26.520 Oh, if only everyone would just leave her alone. 0.87

00:23:29.560 No one would track her plane.

00:23:30.860 What?

00:23:32.300 Do you not think people are tracking J.D. Vance's plane?

00:23:35.040 Elon Musk took his notoriously off of something.

00:23:37.720 Taylor Swift.

00:23:38.620 People get their planes tracked all the time.

00:23:41.120 By the way, there's no remedy for that situation.

00:23:43.980 What's the future remedy?

00:23:44.700 We're just not going to announce one.

00:23:46.120 We're just going to pop up and surprise people.

00:23:48.580 The messaging was crappy.

00:23:50.160 I am so sick of there never being an adult in the room that will just come out and say,

00:23:54.780 as a leader would, you know what?

00:23:56.800 Ticket attendance wasn't great.

00:23:59.000 We want to remedy that in the future.

00:24:01.100 We want to figure out what we can do, changes we can make so that we can establish Erica

00:24:05.120 as the new leader of Turning Point USA.

00:24:07.460 You know, they're still getting to know her. 0.82

00:24:08.860 That's responsible messaging.

00:24:10.660 But these guys, it's your fault.

00:24:13.000 And shame on J.D. Vance for taking the bait on that.

00:24:16.660 In response to Andrew Colvett's questioning, he's going to lecture us.

00:24:20.480 He's going to come in and he's going to lecture us.

00:24:22.260 Take a listen to what J.D. Vance has to say.

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00:24:54.920 Again, if your instinct is to go after not the left-wing radicals who are assaulting Savannah

00:25:00.740 or not the people who shot Charlie Kirk,

00:25:03.780 but if your instinct is to go after a young mother

00:25:06.920 because she's grieving in a way that you find wrong,

00:25:11.840 well, why don't you stay in your lane and mind your own business?

00:25:14.620 Grief is complicated, and I just, you know, so there's another angle of this, Andrew, which is just so absurd, which is that, you know, people will say that, you know, Erica, you know, she's been doing this, or she's been doing that, and I would be doing something different, and it's like, first of all, that's fine.

00:25:37.440 Like, if you want to criticize somebody because you have a disagreement, disagree with my politics.

00:25:41.960 Disagree with something that Erica or Andrew say on the Turning Point podcast.

00:25:47.020 We do.

00:25:47.600 But this desire to go after her for the way she's grieving her husband, that's the most preposterous thing I've seen in a very long time.

00:25:56.180 And I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in politics.

00:25:58.560 Okay.

00:25:59.300 First off, we do criticize them all the time for what they say on the podcast.

00:26:03.780 The whole public has been doing that, actually, since everything happened.

00:26:06.240 And please stop saying this repeat phrase

00:26:08.480 that everyone grieves differently.

00:26:09.280 It doesn't matter how many times you say it,

00:26:10.560 it doesn't make it true, okay?

00:26:11.620 You can't just say stuff.

00:26:13.320 Everybody grieves differently.

00:26:14.560 Yeah, no, for sure.

00:26:16.600 Everyone that I know does this.

00:26:18.060 No one, that's why it stands out to people

00:26:20.420 and people go, this is strange.

00:26:22.900 Most people would fear going out.

00:26:25.340 They would wanna be closer to their kids.

00:26:27.220 Stop trying to constantly feed us this slop.

00:26:30.180 But the audacity to say something, like he just said,

00:26:33.740 He said that it was the most preposterous thing that he has seen in politics in a very long time.

00:26:40.540 People criticizing Edgar Kirk.

00:26:42.720 That's the most preposterous thing he's seen in politics in a very long time.

00:26:46.740 Disagreeing with the new CEO and chairman.

00:26:48.920 This is not just a widow.

00:26:49.700 This is the new CEO and chairman of TPUSA, a position that she did not earn.

00:26:54.660 Nothing that she has done warrants her being in that position.

00:26:57.900 And that to him is like, whoa, I can't believe people are doing this.

00:27:00.140 I've seen some preposterous things just over the last few weeks in politics that should probably

00:27:04.940 rank higher on your list, okay? Like when you guys blew up that school, 150 Iranian schoolgirls 1.00

00:27:12.520 were killed, and then you lied about it. That, to me, feels a little more preposterous. I mean,

00:27:17.100 it was not just even two days ago that Trump said that he thought Jesus was a Red Cross doctor.

00:27:22.100 That was a little preposterous. Y'all, he's out here lying about things. I don't know,

00:27:25.780 the Epstein files? Did you have time to go through them, Mr. Vice President? Nothing in there ranked

00:27:30.780 more preposterous for you than us criticizing Erica Kirk? How about Trump just generally

00:27:36.800 attacking a pope because he's calling for peace? How about Trump saying that Brigitte Macron is

00:27:43.000 hot? That was pretty preposterous that she's got it. It's not even close. The literal ticket you

00:27:49.140 guys ran on was calling for peace. Now you're attacking the pope or Trump is attacking the

00:27:53.400 because he's calling for peace,

00:27:54.380 that feels pretty preposterous.

00:27:55.900 Going to war with the explicit aim

00:27:58.980 of opening the Strait of Hormuz,

00:28:00.880 which was already opened before you began the war,

00:28:04.460 is pretty preposterous.

00:28:06.000 Gas prices right now are pretty preposterous.

00:28:09.480 Us criticizing a grieving widow

00:28:11.200 who can't keep her story straight about anything?

00:28:14.240 No, that's not.

00:28:15.440 That's not even, that shouldn't even hit your radar.

00:28:17.820 So please do not lecture us, J.D.

00:28:21.400 Do not, okay?

00:28:22.640 the lecture that is coming from you is exactly why we don't like Erica, because we see it for

00:28:29.040 exactly what it is. It's elite. She has money and connections. She can call Vice President J.D. Vance. 1.00

00:28:35.000 She can get the Secretary Scott Besant to issue a letter on demand, demanding you stop looking

00:28:40.980 into their finances. She can get Trump to say how much Charlie loved her in his Easter speech.

00:28:46.320 It's the balcony approach that makes us sick. We feel it. You guys looking down in the crowd

00:28:52.300 like we're animals and you're somehow more dignified. Okay, Mr. Vice President, respectfully,

00:28:58.960 our friends aren't in the Epstein files. And I have enough common sense to know that the reason

00:29:04.100 we refer to it as common sense is because it's shared amongst the commoners, us, the majority.

00:29:10.160 And right now, the left and the right, the internet, we have correctly identified the

00:29:15.740 nature of your friend, Erica Kirk. So please, I beg of you. We are seven months into this thing.

00:29:20.660 please do not give us more bedslap.

00:29:24.240 We have had our fill.

00:29:25.560 And if it is truly a desire

00:29:26.840 to transform hearts and minds about Erica,

00:29:30.600 might I very humbly suggest

00:29:32.240 that you start with a story

00:29:33.300 that makes sense about September 10th.

00:29:35.680 What happened?

00:29:36.820 One that doesn't feature magical bullets 1.00

00:29:39.120 and Superman necks and trannies 1.00

00:29:41.620 that write out entire confessions 0.98

00:29:43.800 in the spirit of a Jane Austen novel, my love.

00:29:47.540 One which doesn't feature company employees

00:29:50.620 who witnessed the shooting and for some incomprehensible reason neglect to call 9-1-1

00:29:56.440 but instead rush to remove cameras within minutes? That would be my advice. Rather than lecturing us

00:30:01.940 from a balcony, string together a coherent story and a timeline. For the commoners, please and 0.99

00:30:09.120 thank you. Anyway, moving on from that onto some other things that are happening behind the scenes,

00:30:14.680 essentially Turning Point is now just in the business of creating an illusion. And by an

00:30:18.520 I mean that even when they are posting events of her being greeted at events with like, you know, thunderous applause behind the scenes, you should know that middle schoolers and high schoolers are being forced in some scenarios to sit in these events. It's mandatory. OK, they have no option. So remember when you went to school and there was assembly when you had to go to assembly in the middle of the day? That is the state of affairs at Turning Point USA. They are the administration. It's an assembly. Surprise. Erica Kirk is here. And they're like, look, the room.

00:30:48.100 the auditorium is filled. Like, I guess to keep it real, if I was in high school, I was really

00:30:54.360 bad at chemistry. He offered like, you know, five extra points and was like, Candace, like,

00:30:59.260 you can bring up this really bad grade that you got if you go sit with Erica Kirk in the assembly

00:31:06.420 right now or after school. No, I still wouldn't do it. But I'd think about it. I'd think about it.

00:31:13.100 i don't wish them bad i just wish them truth i want them all to stop lying about everything

00:31:21.880 and anything and thinking that a jd vance or a sprinkle of trump is going to change things

00:31:27.000 please stop abusing the public with lies and um already since more things are leaking

00:31:33.320 andrew is commuting the story right yesterday it was this is happening because of the people

00:31:39.000 back at home now he knows stuff is coming out about the high school event that was

00:31:42.680 canceled on monday but he's trying to fit it into this puzzle um trying to make it work somehow

00:31:49.780 that he announced it on stage suddenly that erica wouldn't be attending um and here he is on charlie

00:31:56.080 kirk's show this morning with their latest excuse that's dropping take a listen obviously the big

00:32:03.060 part of the news was that erica was uh she canceled her appearance at that because of security threats

00:32:09.820 that were made against her it was something we were you know monitoring for days before the

00:32:16.520 event we actually had a high school event that was planned to be before the college event in

00:32:22.200 the area that we had to cancel a few days before because of the increased online chatter that we

00:32:26.940 were monitoring our security team i should say was monitoring and so we thought you know we got

00:32:31.980 the secret service everything should be fine at the main event but what ended up happening

00:32:35.640 and i have to be somewhat careful here because the security uh our security team does you know

00:32:41.160 obviously wants to be a little bit uh circumspect in the way that we talk about this because we

00:32:46.020 don't want to give the bad guys any more ideas but it was a situation where they were trying

00:32:51.700 to dox her travel and monitor her travel suggesting different ways to that people could

00:32:56.280 attack her and it was like something we were actively trying to navigate and change itineraries

00:33:03.000 move locations. Nobody wants to live that way. It was a terrible experience in many, many ways.

00:33:09.200 And I feel terrible for Erica. And ultimately, you know, when you're in that moment and the

00:33:14.360 security team looks at you and says, we can't guarantee your safety. At some point, you just

00:33:19.020 have to say, there's we'll do this a different way. Tough job, Andrew. It's truly a tough job

00:33:29.580 that Andrew Colbett has.

00:33:32.200 I just got to keep up with the crowd

00:33:34.620 and pivot the stories,

00:33:35.940 try to make it make sense.

00:33:37.040 The plane, there was a threat.

00:33:38.340 You know, we tried to move the FBO

00:33:39.900 and charter a different plane.

00:33:42.940 You don't know the tail number.

00:33:44.020 You don't have a tail number.

00:33:45.520 What were they sharing?

00:33:46.220 I was just like,

00:33:46.700 what are we talking about?

00:33:47.140 You guys have multiple planes

00:33:48.060 starting point USA.

00:33:49.060 Oh, it just was a threat. 0.77

00:33:50.040 We just can't tell you too much.

00:33:51.080 We can't tell you.

00:33:51.540 Even though we announced it on stage,

00:33:53.320 we know that people are asking for more.

00:33:55.840 We just want to honor the security

00:33:57.900 and these threats are very serious.

00:33:59.880 And that's why when Charlie multiple times

00:34:01.440 texted me and the security team the day before

00:34:03.700 saying he thought he was going to be killed,

00:34:05.500 we don't like to talk about that.

00:34:07.260 We don't talk about that threat.

00:34:08.680 That threat, we don't want to talk about this one.

00:34:10.380 We want you to know it's your fault.

00:34:11.760 So don't criticize Erica. 1.00

00:34:14.500 Yeah, emotionally manipulative, narcissistic.

00:34:18.540 We do not, I reject this and you should too.

00:34:21.200 Anyway, we are going to be back after a brief break

00:34:23.420 with an update regarding Pastor Victor Marks.

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00:37:58.860 Pastor Victor Marks. What can I say? He was a difficult subject to cover. A lot of

00:38:05.180 editorial decisions had to be made because there was just so much. There was so much to choose

00:38:10.220 from. And I want to be clear, the information that we got about his biography, that came from

00:38:14.620 Victor Marx. We could have put together tons of clips. He tells his story many times, many ways.

00:38:20.060 And we just were like, OK, let's try to reduce this to the facts about his life, who his father

00:38:25.920 was, who his stepdaddy was, the things that he has said. And we didn't even include stuff going on

00:38:32.820 with his family, his daughter, very public back forth that went on where she was accusing him of

00:38:39.800 abuse. And there's a lot of that. And then she retracted her statement after they began speaking

00:38:46.940 again. And OK, we're like, OK, we don't need to include that. We didn't include the young woman

00:38:51.600 who alleges that Victor Marks kidnapped her from Canada. She's the people had her on the shows and

00:38:57.880 she discussed how she was kidnapped. But there was a lot going on with Pastor Victor Marks. I

00:39:02.760 think it is fair to suggest that he has a checkered background. And we have never received

00:39:09.600 more emails and more tips about anyone. Actually, in our tips inbox, it was a recurring theme. You

00:39:15.040 need to look into Victor Marks, Victor Marks, Victor Marks. Victor Marks allegedly was the

00:39:18.900 first person who announced that Charlie Kirk had died, and then he deleted that post. I remember

00:39:24.380 that from all of the things that were happening. It was like, why did Victor Marks announce it

00:39:29.000 first? And then he deleted that post. So yeah, I think we did a good job kind of sizing it down

00:39:35.640 to the relevant portions of what these pastors seem to get up to. I don't even know where he

00:39:40.940 pastors. Where is he a pastor at? I think that was one of the points that was raised by Corby Hall.

00:39:46.640 It's like, I realized he doesn't have a church. I don't know why he says he's a pastor.

00:39:50.380 And I don't know why Erica can't make normal friends. None of my friends have these sorts

00:39:53.620 backgrounds. And they're not the people

00:39:55.760 that I would want to see in the event of an

00:39:57.580 emergency. But like JD

00:39:59.560 said, she'd be grieving differently, y'all.

00:40:01.380 She'd be grieving differently. Anyway,

00:40:03.780 so Victor Marks

00:40:05.100 clearly saw my episode very quickly, and

00:40:07.660 he took to both his Instagram

00:40:09.160 and X to

00:40:11.440 issue a very quick response.

00:40:13.880 A little weird. I think it's weird.

00:40:16.120 Let me know if you think it's weird.

00:40:17.080 This is what he said.

00:40:20.900 Ooh.

00:40:21.340 well alrighty then

00:40:24.060 love you Candace

00:40:26.740 let me know when you want me to come on the show

00:40:30.040 praying for you

00:40:32.500 okay but like why do the glasses have to come off

00:40:36.220 why do we have to go all like Clark Kent about it

00:40:38.880 well alrighty then

00:40:40.500 give it to me again

00:40:41.000 well alrighty then

00:40:42.840 give it to me one more time

00:40:43.760 I gotta watch that again

00:40:44.860 well alrighty then

00:40:50.560 okay can you like we had a dj booth booth going where we just like get these sounds at me like

00:40:59.760 that's a bite that's a bite if you guys need to have that little whenever i'm feeling

00:41:03.000 already then anyway i don't know what the point of that was and he then published oh i've been

00:41:08.940 accused or in this episode this is what he suggested buddy you can't be accused of what

00:41:13.920 you're telling us your bio is now i read corby hall statement in its entirety flushed out what

00:41:19.640 he had to say. Felt like he was a very honest person. And again, he was ready to come on the

00:41:24.200 show and discuss everything, bring all of his evidence. So I my instincts are usually right

00:41:27.920 about people. And my instincts about you were that I don't know. You had supplements that you

00:41:33.480 were doing with David Harris. David Harris calls God Papa. I don't know. And he like you guys said

00:41:39.460 that like proceeds, the supplements were going to help human sex trafficking victims. It's too much.

00:41:44.340 it's just too much okay my my senses my spidey senses say no good anyways i obviously responded

00:41:53.560 instantly i i wrote this beneath the post we are actually going to have corby hall of fold ar on

00:41:59.660 and he is going to do the show with you i am happy to have you both on if you agree and corby hall

00:42:05.180 said yeah i'm good let's do this he actually suggested it corby hall he said because he saw

00:42:08.840 the post first and said, I would 100% do this face-to-face. Like, he's very serious about what

00:42:14.780 this man did to him. And like I said, he has all the evidence, so it wouldn't make sense for me.

00:42:18.940 I couldn't rebut anything that Victor Marks said about Folder. We were all, we're going to have

00:42:22.720 Corby. Let's make this happen. And so, too, because I wanted to make sure that we could establish

00:42:27.820 a date, I instantly then reached out privately. I will show you guys that. I wrote, hi, Victor.

00:42:35.440 Give me the best number.

00:42:36.340 We would love to set it up.

00:42:37.320 Corby Hall is completely game to join.

00:42:39.400 Best to have him there since I read his letter

00:42:41.720 and he has the proof, et cetera,

00:42:43.180 of what you wanted from him,

00:42:44.880 plus the prayer that you prayed over him.

00:42:47.380 We have up until we hit go on today's episode,

00:42:51.300 not heard back from him.

00:42:52.720 I don't even see that it's read.

00:42:53.740 He may not have read receipts on,

00:42:55.200 but I obviously responded exactly where he posted the video.

00:42:57.960 We will keep you posted.

00:42:59.220 And I am totally game and very interested.

00:43:01.980 Finally, we got one of these pastors on the hook.

00:43:04.880 I want to reel him in. I want to reel him in and talk about his relationship with Turning Point USA,

00:43:09.420 how he got found as a pastor, Calvary, what goes on near that military base. It feels to me like

00:43:17.320 a whole military operation, I'm going to be honest. We've done episodes. We have done our due diligence

00:43:22.040 on Calvary Chapel as a whole. I find it to be problematic, but that's my opinion. I'm allowed

00:43:27.680 to have it. Anyway, I wanted to let you know that we then were hit with another wave, people emailing

00:43:33.320 us from Turning Point USA inside and outside. I love this. Just so you know, we have people

00:43:37.760 that are saying that they will get jobs at Turning Point USA just to give us information

00:43:42.800 from the inside. We have people volunteer. They're like, I am going on an interview. I reply. They

00:43:47.540 want me in. I will be I will be a mole like that is how the world feels. They are willing to go to

00:43:52.580 work to get information. It makes me happy and it makes me smile because that is the influence that

00:43:59.080 Charlie Kirk had. That's incredible that people are willing to do that for him. Anyway, people

00:44:04.320 are still on the inside. And people who were fired also informed me that, yeah, no, there's

00:44:08.940 other people that have trafficking history that are involved with Turning Point USA. And in

00:44:13.320 particular, there is someone who openly discusses the fact that he used to traffic arms. I'll say

00:44:21.260 allegedly, but this is apparently something he's very open about around the office. He's very close

00:44:25.280 with Andrew Colvett. That's what I am told by, again, both current and former Turning Point USA

00:44:29.720 employees. His name is Marcus Wada. Okay, here is his bio from Turning Point's website,

00:44:37.340 which is interesting to me already. He's the senior productions director. Marcus Wada is the

00:44:42.040 director of strategy of productions at Turning Point USA. Marcus has spent a decade in film and

00:44:46.980 television production, working on films that were internationally distributed and television shows

00:44:51.840 such as Miss Universe.

00:44:55.060 Okay, that's a connection there.

00:44:57.840 Marcus worked to raise financing for films

00:45:00.180 and producing films.

00:45:01.700 He left Hollywood to work in the conservative movement,

00:45:03.920 producing and directing

00:45:04.840 Turning Point USA's documentary series,

00:45:07.020 Border Battle and The Great Global Reset.

00:45:09.440 Well, apparently he also,

00:45:10.920 which I wouldn't put it in my bio too, to be fair,

00:45:13.180 regularly tells people his testimony

00:45:14.820 about how he was involved in trafficking arms in Poland.

00:45:19.500 Poland, where are you at?

00:45:20.460 I saw you in the chat.

00:45:21.340 Someone said, watching from Poland, and I said, ooh, you guys are getting name-dropped today.

00:45:26.640 So yeah, he used to be involved with trafficking in Poland.

00:45:30.120 But then, as the story always goes, he found God.

00:45:33.940 I am just so pleased to hear it.

00:45:36.680 I'm so pleased to hear it that so many people involved with Turning Point are able to find God.

00:45:42.220 Turning Point USA is out here, I guess, just finding employees and partners in a manner that is unique.

00:45:49.080 unique? It is unique, I would say. It's like a mesothelioma commercial, where you or someone

00:45:57.500 you know involved in trafficking, give us a call today. There may be a place for you in our faith

00:46:01.100 department vibes, right? So then I found out via these employees that Marcus Wada also says that

00:46:08.860 his brother is still involved in the game somehow, in the industry, in some way. Is it charitably?

00:46:14.120 Is there a difference? I can't be sure at this point. Anyway, I did end up finding the guy and

00:46:17.700 prodding that narrative. There seems to be something there. I'm assuming it must be a

00:46:21.660 half-brother because he has a different last name, and this guy is Jewish. And he runs a

00:46:26.760 consulting company that consults in human trafficking. What can I say? It's a big

00:46:31.820 industry, you guys. And I want to be clear, these people are not involved in the trafficking. They

00:46:37.200 are charitable and want to alleviate this global circumstance. And these people also,

00:46:44.000 you know, have histories. But I don't know, guys. I didn't know you could consult in those

00:46:49.580 things. I thought the website was made up. I was like, what does this mean? Consulting in drugs and

00:46:53.740 look at this, industry areas. National border security, money laundering, human trafficking,

00:47:00.540 sex trafficking, firearms and ammunition. This is brother. Controlled substances. Okay.

00:47:07.020 What does it mean to consult in it? How do you consult in it? I don't know, guys. I don't know.

00:47:13.200 I'm like, I'm an old dog that can't learn a new trick. That's my problem. But I am good at

00:47:21.420 spreadsheets. Not so great at Excel, but I know how to put together a timeline and spreadsheets

00:47:25.420 and to organize. You guys should see my pantry. It is ridiculously organized, okay? And I did put

00:47:30.480 together, you guys saw this earlier, the connecting themes spreadsheet because we kept seeing these

00:47:34.760 recurring themes and I did not use Excel as it should be used, but I did put together these

00:47:40.140 columns. And it's the trafficking and sex abuse. I should write charity to make that clear.

00:47:46.040 It's getting pretty long. You know, Derek and Shalane Maxfield, that was that plane that left

00:47:51.680 and went to Page, Arizona that day. They run a child abuse charity, a trafficking charity.

00:47:58.200 Sapria, Colonel Otto Buscher, obviously the Romanian instance with Erica, all surrounding

00:48:04.060 what happened at the military base. And he worked with Romanian Angels, which was her charity.

00:48:10.140 Uh, the civilian commander stationed at Fort Huachuca charged with running a child sex abuse ring, Turning Point USA Faith, Greg Laurie, uh, whose church Erica went right on tour with him. Harvest Church is currently being accused of trafficking children from Romania. Okay, they are fine with that partnership.

00:48:30.260 George Zinn, our decoy boy, was arrested for having pornographic images of children on his phone. Andrew Piscadlo, that was a person who was detained that day, works to ring the alarm on military Ukrainian sex trafficking in the United States. Calvary Chapel Church is obviously riddled with pastor abuse stories. That's an aside, Rob McCoy aside. Glenn Beck, Tim Ballard, that's Operation Underground. Tim Ballard, his name come up in the mix early on as someone who was being met with that day.

00:49:00.260 Erica Kirk lived in China, or in the days that follow, rather, if I remember correctly.

00:49:05.560 Erica Kirk says that she lived in China and worked with child sex trafficking victims,

00:49:08.980 but she's mom on that now. Tight-lipped, does not want to talk about what charity that was. 0.78

00:49:12.620 No one seems to be able to find it on the internet. We know she was living in,

00:49:16.160 was it Chongqing? Am I saying that right? Chongqing? I think it's spelled Chongqing. Maybe

00:49:20.460 it said Chongqing. That's interesting. TPUSA advisor Paul Villelli, retired army general who

00:49:29.360 ran psychological operations and co-wrote the book with Michael Aquino, the Satanist and founder of

00:49:36.120 the Temple of Set. I didn't know Satanism had a great schism, but they did. Some people thought

00:49:41.760 that Satan was an idea. Some people thought that he was a real person. And so the Temple of Set

00:49:45.980 was born out of Satanism. So you guys know if you're not up on your Satanist theology. Anyways,

00:49:52.040 not a bar for entry as an advisor to Turning Point USA. He was accused, I'm referring to

00:49:57.260 Michael Aquino was accused of abusing children at Army Child Development Centers.

00:50:02.360 Victor Marks, as we learned, runs a charity for child sex abuse.

00:50:05.080 We got to add his pills, too.

00:50:07.620 What are the pills, man, that he's doing with David J. Harris that a portion goes to help sex trafficking victims?

00:50:16.020 Nelda Buckman, the number one donor to Turning Point USA, is extensively involved in rescuing children that are being sexually abused and trafficked.

00:50:26.320 the backstory that she gives that her first husband this is this is her story her first

00:50:31.200 husband cheated on her with like a lot of women that were in the industry and she was angry about

00:50:36.440 that but then she realized that she wanted to understand these women and that brought her to 0.83

00:50:41.620 the uh trafficking industry and now she's doing she does a lot a lot of angels this angels you

00:50:49.240 know texas angels and austin angels i can't remember all of them but that's another connection

00:50:54.600 there. And now we have Marcus Wada involved. I should probably change that to more responsibly

00:51:00.060 say, formerly involved in trafficking arms in Poland, according to Turning Point USA,

00:51:05.540 current employees and past employees. So we can just update that spreadsheet, you guys,

00:51:09.140 just so I can say that clearly. Formerly involved Marcus Wada. We just kind of type that as a note.

00:51:13.300 Yeah, we'll live edit that just so that doesn't get misunderstood from the public. Formerly,

00:51:17.960 comma. He's not formerly Marcus Wada, guys. No, he is Marcus Wada. Was he formerly Marcus Wada?

00:51:23.280 I don't know, actually.

00:51:24.380 I don't, if people change their names,

00:51:25.560 nothing would surprise me.

00:51:27.060 Maybe he is formerly Marcus Wada.

00:51:30.720 I think we're having a little bit too much fun today, guys.

00:51:33.080 I'm just like, the stories are just getting so,

00:51:36.260 they're just so ridiculous.

00:51:37.560 What can I say?

00:51:38.680 What can I say, ladies and gentlemen?

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00:55:54.840 Elizabeth Broman or Brown wrote, she didn't know how to play the part of a human being.

00:55:59.360 She's quoting me, exactly what woke up everyone.

00:56:01.980 Yes, hope you're paying attention, Dady Vance.

00:56:04.220 There is such a thing as having a spiritual intuition about things.

00:56:08.180 It's what keeps you safe.

00:56:09.000 being aware of something about justice feels off. And that is something was not tracking. And then

00:56:14.400 when she wasn't behaving the way that she should behave, you guys basically told us that we were

00:56:18.420 crazy for noticing that, that she had no fear. And now you're flipping the gear. You're just

00:56:22.540 completely doing a 180 now and saying she has fear. Come on, guys, just stick to a script.

00:56:28.540 Stick to some form of a script. OK, comments on today's episode. Smith writes, did JD just slip

00:56:35.700 up by saying that the people that killed Charlie, I didn't even catch that he said that. And I do

00:56:42.480 believe that there were people involved, multiple people involved in killing Charlie Kirk. And I do

00:56:46.720 not believe that it was Tyler Robinson alone on a rooftop. And so we're going to continue to read

00:56:51.920 the court documents and stay on top of them and force them to be honest about things for a change.

00:56:58.020 Cece writes, it's extremely nuts to be screaming, make heaven crowded while canceling appearances

00:57:03.340 because of a threat, the irony of Charlie still making his event after telling people that they

00:57:07.420 were trying to kill him. Go home and be a mom like Charlie wanted. You just can't have it both ways.

00:57:11.880 You don't get to be a public figure and to say, I don't want to have any attention, but I do want

00:57:18.040 to be the CEO and the chairman of Turning Point USA. It's always like they are the people that

00:57:23.220 present the problem. And then when everyone's like, OK, well, you're the person, you're the

00:57:26.700 one that brought the public into this. They go, oh, no, no, no, no, never mind. I just want privacy.

00:57:30.500 It's giving Meghan Markle.

00:57:31.940 Do you know what I mean?

00:57:32.740 Like, I want to be the princess,

00:57:34.760 but I also want privacy when I want it,

00:57:36.040 but I also want Netflix cameras when I want it.

00:57:38.320 Life just doesn't work like that, okay?

00:57:40.140 You can't take us into the casket

00:57:41.580 and then pretend to be aghast

00:57:44.420 when people ask you where you buried him.

00:57:46.660 Did you bury him?

00:57:47.660 Do you think that they cremated Charlie?

00:57:48.960 I ask myself that question, right?

00:57:51.640 I ask myself occasionally

00:57:54.260 whether or not they cremated Charlie

00:57:55.740 because that is starting to make sense to me

00:57:57.600 that they would do that.

00:57:59.100 I don't know.

00:57:59.780 because now she can't share the details

00:58:02.280 because she says people are going to come

00:58:04.100 and try to destroy.

00:58:04.860 I mean, I can't think of a single figure

00:58:06.940 that's deeply hated in American history

00:58:09.120 that has suffered having people

00:58:12.100 go after the gravesite.

00:58:13.660 And I genuinely,

00:58:14.680 that's just not a thing that people do, right?

00:58:17.360 I'm sure they do in extreme circumstances,

00:58:19.640 but that doesn't feel right to me.

00:58:20.960 There's something very strange about that.

00:58:23.020 And similarly, it's like

00:58:24.260 she wants to be the grieving widow.

00:58:25.680 She wants to be treated like a grieving widow

00:58:26.900 that's taking care of her kids, 1.00

00:58:28.200 but she's boss bathing it.

00:58:29.780 And she's making decisions and she's reversing course on the things that Charlie believed

00:58:32.760 and reversing course on the things that she alleged that she believed when Charlie was

00:58:36.860 alive.

00:58:37.300 And people are going to call that out and they have a right to call that out.

00:58:39.920 And so I encourage people to continue to do that.

00:58:42.600 If she doesn't want to play the role of the CEO and chairman, she's welcome to step down.

00:58:47.060 Okay?

00:58:47.360 She's more than welcome to step down.

00:58:48.700 And then she will not have to deal with the day-to-day criticisms of how Turning Point

00:58:54.080 USA is being run into the ground.

00:58:56.740 But otherwise, you know, put on your big girl pants, so to speak.

00:59:01.120 Sarah Miller writes,

00:59:02.240 Loved ones of missing and murdered people regularly get dissected in their interviews with the press for how they are grieving publicly. 0.83

00:59:08.260 I guess you are only allowed to grieve differently when you're a part of the Epstein class. 0.76

00:59:11.780 It's bogus. 0.97

00:59:12.240 Yeah, I mean, that's completely right.

00:59:13.620 People absolutely tear apart people every second of every day, especially given the size of this case.

00:59:20.040 And as I said earlier, their inability to just string together a comprehensive story regarding what took place on September 10th.

00:59:28.720 They're relying on us to accept make-believe.

00:59:32.660 This is a fairy tale story.

00:59:35.200 And then they're like, well, why don't you believe that Rudolph had a red nose, Candace?

00:59:39.060 Why don't you believe that he was carrying Santa's big butt all across the North Pole?

00:59:43.820 Like, I just don't believe that, actually.

00:59:45.920 And how could you not attack that?

00:59:49.080 and it's godly and it's this and the Lord,

00:59:50.760 and then it's suddenly not the Lord

00:59:52.120 and they have real concerns

00:59:53.080 and it's just all over the place.

00:59:55.100 It's very sloppy.

00:59:56.400 Caroline writes,

00:59:57.160 Candice, please let me help you with your Excel.

00:59:58.840 I can do wonders.

00:59:59.700 No, I am just using it to organize the columns.

01:00:02.580 I am ignoring the rows.

01:00:03.720 We are just doing the columns on connecting themes

01:00:06.000 because I was like, I could make this in Word,

01:00:07.920 but why would I when Excel has already made this for me?

01:00:10.460 Thank you.

01:00:11.500 Yeah, we're keeping that forever.

01:00:13.340 In fact, I am inspiring an entire generation

01:00:15.520 to misuse Excel spreadsheets.

01:00:17.720 I'm very proud of myself.

01:00:19.080 Jolie writes, TPUSA is no longer considered to be Turning Point.

01:00:22.420 It should now be known as Trafficking Point.

01:00:25.440 It's Topsy-Turvy Point.

01:00:27.160 It's Tumbling Point.

01:00:28.500 It's certainly not the organization that I knew, that I supported, and that I loved. 1.00

01:00:33.720 And it feels like it's been infiltrated by Zionists. 0.99

01:00:36.540 I think from the very beginning, we felt that. 1.00

01:00:38.340 I think that's honest.

01:00:39.000 That's a fair take.

01:00:41.560 And even in there, like I said, there's this bizarre partnership that they just keep having

01:00:45.120 with The Daily Wire.

01:00:45.840 We know what The Daily Wire is.

01:00:46.920 So when we see that, we go, hmm, that's weird.

01:00:51.320 That's not, that's strange.

01:00:53.080 And we have a right to comment on that and to recognize that.

01:00:55.980 Lastly, Granny Manny writes,

01:00:57.740 they were screaming for your arrest and worse on X last night.

01:01:02.020 I could not believe how hostile it was.

01:01:03.840 Love you so much, Candace. 0.83

01:01:05.200 These people are insane. 1.00

01:01:06.520 If Erica literally like fell and scraped her knee, 1.00

01:01:11.120 if she did what I did and she broke her foot, 1.00

01:01:13.120 they'd be like, this is Candace's fault. 0.96

01:01:14.540 That's what they want. 1.00

01:01:15.240 They're trying to create that environment.

01:01:16.560 and so we need to be conscious of that, okay?

01:01:18.780 Everything we have done on this show has been fair.

01:01:21.780 Charlie Kirk was murdered.

01:01:22.920 We are being lied to about the details

01:01:24.320 surrounding that murder

01:01:25.100 and I granted her grace

01:01:26.840 beyond what the internet was willing to give her.

01:01:28.680 She lied to my face. 1.00

01:01:29.480 She has lied multiple times

01:01:30.420 and the lies are inexplicable.

01:01:31.760 They won't clarify any of these lies.

01:01:33.580 They are pretending like she's too busy,

01:01:34.960 like she's some grieving, powerful widow behind the scenes.

01:01:38.040 She's not. 1.00

01:01:38.940 Actually, she plays very nasty, 1.00

01:01:40.400 just so you guys know.

01:01:41.280 Here's a fact.

01:01:42.280 Erica personally made phone calls

01:01:44.480 trying to get people not to go

01:01:46.400 to the Catholic event that I spoke at the other week, okay? 1.00

01:01:49.700 She plays dirty behind the scenes. 0.99

01:01:51.300 The people who were fired told me 0.90

01:01:52.980 who was behind this PR push.

01:01:54.880 Erica was behind this stuff the entire time.

01:01:57.340 So you can completely miss me.

01:01:58.860 I don't play that way.

01:01:59.940 With me, you get what you get.

01:02:02.260 I'm gonna say it on my show.

01:02:03.380 I'm not gonna wheel and deal.

01:02:04.440 I'm not gonna call a PR person.

01:02:06.000 Could we get this article? 1.00

01:02:07.280 Can we try to see if we get Candace canceled from this event? 1.00

01:02:09.240 Can we try to see? 0.57

01:02:09.780 It was sold out.

01:02:10.420 The event was sold out.

01:02:11.920 And it's because I don't play that way.

01:02:13.320 I don't have that karma building up in the background.

01:02:15.800 I don't have to worry about—I don't treat people that way.

01:02:19.200 I'm always up front, and I was up front with her when I sat down with her, and she lied.

01:02:22.800 Okay?

01:02:23.320 So she got onto my list of people that I find to be suspicious because of her own actions

01:02:29.340 and her behavior and her lack of interest in the very many holes in this case, her anger

01:02:35.580 at Joe Kent for trying to investigate foreign involvement.

01:02:38.900 Who do you think is orchestrating all that?

01:02:40.400 Does it sound to you like Andrew Colbert has a brain or that there could be someone more

01:02:44.700 conniving behind him. I offer you the latter, okay? It is definitively the latter. And I will

01:02:51.840 leave it at that. I guess that's it for today's comments. We will see you guys tomorrow.

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