BREAKING： The ATF Traced A Gun On 9⧸10. Erika's ＂Friend＂ Wanted To Own Its Company. ｜ Candace Ep 324
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Candace has a story for you today about a pastor she's very close with, and it's going to throw you for a loop. In my personal view, Erica just cannot keep dancing adjacent to allegations of trafficking her entire life.
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All right, you guys, happy Tuesday. I have an episode for you. I really have an episode for you.
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You should just be sitting down and watching this with somebody because your jaw is just going to be on the ground.
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You know, I have been saying that it is just not possible that everyone that Erica Kirk
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has involved with Turning Point USA via Turning Point Faith seems to have a connection to
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They all seem to be working in the industry, charitably, of course.
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I just find that to be impossible, and I also find it to be increasingly problematic.
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So like I said, I have a story for you today about another one of these pastors she's very
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close with, and it's going to throw you for a loop. In my personal view, Erica just cannot keep
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dancing adjacent to allegations of trafficking her entire life. Life is actually just not that
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complicated, least of all for someone who constantly discusses her deep relationship with
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the Lord. It's a battle-bun kind of Tuesday, so welcome back to Candace.
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turning point faith was the infiltration how many times have you heard me say that over and over
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again that was the big sea change I guess that's a better way of putting it when I left the
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organization Charlie had just met Erica a young woman who presented herself as being on fire for
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the Lord. And I feel like I blinked and suddenly the organization, which was once fully committed
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to free markets and capitalism, became all about the church. But whose church? Who is the Lord
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to which, regarding which Erica is always referring to, right? People have noted that
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she rarely says Jesus Christ. Maybe they're nitpicking. Maybe I'm nitpicking. But during her
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a first public address to the nation on September 12th, when she said, go to turningpointusa.com
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right now, she explicitly said in that speech, which was not written by her, I was told it was
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written by Blake Neff, that, quote, Charlie witnessed for his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
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And then during the memorial, same deal. She similarly said, and I quote,
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one moment, Charlie was doing what he loved. He blinked and he saw his savior in heaven. Now,
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that could be because Erica's not writing her own speeches, I'm told. Erica didn't eulogize her
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own husband. Maybe that's why it felt a little impersonal. Blake Neff came in with a heavy
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assist. Now, that's unimaginable to me. Similarly, Justin Strike did not write his own speech for
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the memorial. I'm told the broader point, though, for me is that whenever I hear Erica discussing
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the Lord, as she typically says, it makes my skin crawl. It's not how I feel when I'm speaking
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about God with other people. There's something about the manner in which she says it that makes
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my skin crawl, just like many of the troubled pastors that she has decided to partner with
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and to work with despite the many troubling allegations against them, which brings us to
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some shocking news for you today. Because for months, I have just been quietly working on my
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Egyptian plane timeline. Started with one plane, then I realized there was two planes, three planes,
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four planes. Never paying attention to the noise, right? I rather early realized a bizarre pattern
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that appeared to me at first, at second, and at third glance, I went,
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why do I feel like I'm looking at trafficking of some description? I don't know if it's drugs,
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I don't know if it's weapons, but this seems to me to be a very interesting pattern. Is products
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moving into the United States? Is it moving out of the United States? That's what I saw just
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when I looked through it myself. Very quickly, I told you, I was very good at pattern recognition.
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Do not sleep on me when it comes to putting together a puzzle or a pattern.
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And I was just sort of noticing how the planes foremost were stopping over in states and cities with military bases.
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And more crucially, after Mikey McCoy becomes the chief of staff in January of 2024, Charlie, suddenly his schedule is beginning to mirror these Egyptian planes.
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Now, prior to Mikey McCoy's appointment, because I had to go back further, and 2023, because that's when Turning Point USA faith actually begins, these planes seemed to be tracking Turning Point faith events more broadly.
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But once Mikey McCoy is announced to Chief of Staff in January of 2024, again, it seems like suddenly Charlie is just doing a lot in Kansas and in Nebraska and in Missouri, crossing with these planes.
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I couldn't state it definitively that I felt like I was looking at trafficking, but I trust my instincts and my instincts only grew stronger when Erica had the complete wrong reaction or rather no reaction or concern or even mild interest in a foreign plane, two foreign planes that departed just before and just after her husband's assassination.
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It's like she didn't know how to play the parts of a human being, right?
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Even if it turns out to be nothing, you should want to know more about those foreign planes.
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Being like, oh, like, do you know, like, who was on these planes, actually, just to make sure, rule that out?
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She wanted to make jokes about the Egyptian planes.
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She doesn't want the public looking at the Egyptian planes.
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Anyway, as I was working through this spreadsheet even more last week, we were contacted by
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someone who said that he was afraid for his life, that he felt that he had to speak out
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Now, I wasn't sure if he was being melodramatic.
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And sometimes they don't have that much to add or to share.
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but after speaking to him on the phone and then saying, let me just read through your email more
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thoroughly, I am certain he was not being dramatic, like at all, actually. So I'm going to tell you
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about this young man. His name is Corby Hall, and Corby Hall, you should know, manufactures guns.
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Specifically, he began to manufacture a specific gun, which I'm going to tell you more about,
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that a Turning Point Faith-affiliated pastor named Victor Marks was interested in owning.
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Now, like many of the affiliated pastors with Turning Point Faith,
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He is currently, you should know, running for governor of Colorado.
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And he chose to announce his intention to run for governor of Colorado
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at a Charlie Kirk Memorial event in Denver on September 14th,
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just a couple of days after Charlie was assassinated.
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for Turning Point Faith entitled Freedom from Pornography.
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I certainly don't remember him being Charlie's assistant,
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that he's not lying about his relationship with Erica
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Because Pastor Victor Marks and his wife Eileen Marks
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were one of the very first people to go see and greet Erica
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They comforted her with cameras rolling, of course,
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it is perfectly normal to record these intimate, private moments
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after your husband was brutally assassinated in front of the world, right?
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make sure the cameras are going to capture your grief.
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and then not only should they capture your grief
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that first time you hug your friend and see them,
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someone should just be like recording for Instagram,
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captured and shared between Erica Kirk and Eileen Marks.
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It says the moment that Erica Kirk sees Eileen for the first time after Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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If you're interested in that music, that song was called Held by Natalie Grant.
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Did you imagine that, letting people capture that?
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But I digress because, first I should point out, you may have also noted that Erica has her phone in her hand, the one that she allegedly did not turn on for weeks after Charlie died. But I digress again because I'm going to show you another photo this time of Erica being comforted by her dear friend Victor Marks in the building that she lives in.
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again, we are like 72 hours after Charlie's death. She is in her own personal space. For some reason,
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they just felt like photography was welcomed. Is that weird? Yes, of course it's weird. If somebody
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came at me in a moment of grief with a camera to take pictures of me crying after I got out of a
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car to see them, I would hit someone. I think that's a more normal reaction. Like, how dare you?
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No, they wanted it captured and put onto the internet.
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you should know that his real name is Vaughn Victor Kennedy.
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His military record says it's Vo with no N at the end,
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Now, by the time he was 17, he had lived in 17 homes and attended 14 schools.
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He was involved with drugs, fights, and theft in high school.
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He regularly tells a story about the abuse that he endured at the hands of his stepfather,
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But his stepfather's real name was Gloyce Dean Kennedy.
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And his stepfather served in the Army and did counterintelligence.
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And thereafter, he ran an international drug smuggling ring out of Jamaica, for which he eventually pled guilty and was convicted of conspiracy in 1987 for attempting to import 1,400 pounds of marijuana from Jamaica.
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Also charges which included money laundering, aiding and abetting.
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OK, Victor's brother, Mike Kennedy, who would go on to become an attorney, also pled guilty as the co-conspirator in that drug trafficking ring.
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He took a plea deal, so he only served a year and a day in exchange for testifying against his stepfather, Gloyce.
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What about his biological dad? Victor Marx's biological dad was apparently cut from the same cloth.
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and also a world-famous martial arts expert
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You're thinking maybe Victor had angelic grandparents
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who kept him safe from all of this dysfunction,
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Now, unfortunately, his grandfather, on his dad's side,
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before he turned the gun on himself and committed suicide in public.
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But to be clear, Victor is very open about that story, as he is with every story.
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And he makes it clear that his stepfather made him do it in a moment of terrifying abuse.
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And I will let you hear Victor in his own words tell that story.
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When we walked in, there was another fella in this little wooden house.
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You don't run, you don't tell, because there's no way out.
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You don't have any control over your life, so you just do.
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And I hear them discussing, and this guy says, I don't want to do this anymore.
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I thought, this is the day he's just going to kill me.
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And I heard my stepfather tell him, oh, it's okay.
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When the guy kind of relaxed, my stepfather punched him, bam, knocked him unconscious,
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And he said, come here, boy, you're going to shoot this man.
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I remember standing behind him, and he placed a pistol in my hand.
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and he put his finger over my trigger finger.
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And then he pushed, and I pulled, and I shot the guy in his head,
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He wiped his hand on the blood on the wood floor,
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like they do when you kill your first deer.
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And he says, boy, that's your first kill of a man.
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Now, to be clear, the part that you didn't hear is he says that his dad invited this man over to abuse him,
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and then the man couldn't do it, so then he killed him.
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But then right after the story, when he slaps him in the face,
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he says that's the last time his stepfather ever abused him.
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Now, in case you're wondering what happened to the body of that guy,
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Victor says that they dug up, put it under the house.
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They went somewhere, dug it up, put it in the backyard somewhere.
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But 40 years later, he had a guilty conscience about it, obviously, when he was an adult.
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And he walked into a police station and told the police they had killed this guy and kind of buried him in the backyard.
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But that particular police officer was like, oh, it's OK.
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Again, some people struggle to believe some of his stories.
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I think it would be fair for us to suggest that growing up in this particular environment, Victor Marks might have learned a thing or two about moving illegal product across borders. Is that a fair assessment, right? Kids, you grow up, you see what your parents do, you might learn a thing or two.
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At the age of 18, Victor joined the Marine Corps.
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To be clear, he only served for two years during peacetime, stateside, no deployments
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But this is a crucial period because that is when he says he found Jesus Christ and
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he was stationed at Camp Pendleton in California and began attending the nearby Calvary Chapel.
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Honestly, my personal favorite church at this point.
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That happened in 1986. Two years later, in 1988, he married his wife, Eileen, who you just saw Erica hugging. Eileen, brining Marx, and they would go on to have five kids and grandkids.
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In 2003, he and his brother, who got that light sentence, who was out of prison, now began All Things Possible ministries.
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Calvary Chapel, as we have shown you in the past, has a long history of these sorts of characters going on to become pastors, getting involved.
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So the fact that he got his story started with faith, with Calvary Chapel, this checks, this makes sense to me.
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In 2023, there are so many stories I could tell you, but I'm just trying to limit some of them.
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In 2003, Eileen, his wife's brother, Kenneth, for some reason, his brother-in-law tried to shoot him on his own property.
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But Eileen's brother would go on to kill his own girlfriend, for which I believe he is currently awaiting trial.
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Well, he openly admits that he punches holes in the walls of his house about once a year.
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And he tells his wife and his kids not to cover it up so that people can see what he's done when they come over.
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He also openly states that he himself struggles with suicidal and homicidal tendencies.
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What does that mean when you struggle with homicidal tendencies?
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Did I mention that he's running for the governor of Colorado?
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Anyway, so what does this have to do with Charlie Kirk and Turning Point and September 10th?
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Well, I am going to tell you because Victor, like a stepdaddy, was allegedly interested
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in trafficking, particularly arms over to Haiti, and he contacted a man named Corby
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Now, Corby, I'm going to read you his statement, and so you know exactly who he is.
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And it starts with, I, Corby Hall, am the inventor, the founder, and the sole owner
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okay so i am going to read this in the in the words that were written by corby hall so this
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is going to be in first person and he is going to he's presenting here just a timeline of the
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factual events regarding victor marx again erica's dear friend right somebody you want to see
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immediately after at your home after charlie kirk's been assassinated i would say that's a
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dear friend he writes that on or about december 1st 2023 at the request of victor marx melody
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my then-girlfriend, who earned her place as COO of Fold AR, and myself drove from Texas to Colorado
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Springs to provide a demo of the Fold AR to Mr. Marks. Melody had followed Mr. Marks on social
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media for many years and noted that he was seeking the ultimate compact weapons system to use on
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quote-unquote high-risk missions. During our demo at his home base gun range, Mr. Marks approached
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me separately and asked if I would make a signature series rifle for him. He went on to tell me that
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he was exploring this as well with other much larger manufacturers, but that the Fold AR
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is, quote, the only one that makes sense. After the demo, Mr. and Mrs. Marks invited Melody and I
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into their house, and he proclaimed that he felt the hand of God on us and stated that he was told
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by God that an abundance was headed our way. During the living room meeting, Mrs. Marks identified a
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very unique connection between Melody and I, and she asked why we were not married. We responded
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that we would eventually get married, but that it was not a priority for either of us. From this
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point, Mr. and Mrs. Marks began asking personal and religious questions. The responses led into
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how the Fold AR came into existence, resulting in me explaining the story of how, at 16 years old,
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I was briefly falsely identified as a person of interest in the Columbine Massacre in 1999 by
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certain investigative agents. Once this was revealed, Mr. and Mrs. Marks went into another
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room for a few minutes. When they returned, Mr. Marks stated, and Mrs. Marks affirmed that she
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had had a dream and a vision the night before, that they would be a part of a greater mission
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to protect children. And with the revealing of the story, it became obvious that the mission
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would be to help us to get the fold AR on the backs of school resource officers around the
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country. Melody and I were in agreement with the Marxist conclusion that God was doing something
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significant, as the coincidences were too powerful to ignore. Mr. Marx then performed what he
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described as a retooling prayer on both Melody and myself, which is a whole different topic,
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worth further discussion separately. Now, he did send that retooling prayer over to me,
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and I do want to let you know that Victor Marx, effectively what he does is he pretends that he
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is going to summon and then extract information from demons that are inside of you. I don't know
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how he became qualified to do that. He tells you that he needs you to kneel in a circle. He says
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the patterns actually parallel practices that are found in occult ritual frameworks. He then
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confronts the demons in these prayer setups, and he demands that the demons tell them the truth
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So he commands the demons to tell them what God wants.
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we released the Victor Marx Signature Series Rifle
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attending our show booth for several hours each of the four days of the show.
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On January 24th, 2024, Mr. Marks married Melody and I in his hotel room with several of our
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industry friends present. Some months later, Mr. Marks went on Sebastian Gorka's America First
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show with Melody to discuss the Fold AR and Victor's mission to put a Fold AR on the back
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of every school resource officer in America. While their All Things Possible Ministries
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Mr. Marks flew into the airport in Henderson, Texas
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that he needed 50 rifles for a mission to Haiti,
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where he would drop off and leave the firearms.
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illegal exporting to do that, so I couldn't help him. And I advised him to not do it with any other
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firearms as well. I also asked him the question of what good dropping off a bunch of firearms
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would do in Haiti anyways, with no material response offered by Mr. Marks. In October of
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2024, Mr. Marks invited me again to his house in Colorado Springs requesting that I bring a
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1,000-yard capable rifle with a scope and a scope camera mounted. I then built the rifle and drove
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to his house to deliver it. Once I arrived, Mr. Marks explained that he was trying to protect
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an orphanage in Haiti and that the team was already packing their gear to leave shortly.
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Ah, this must be like Haitian angels or something. Well, it's just a theme. Visions from God,
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godly visions. This is what God wants you to do in your life. It's giving Erica Kirk. I got to say
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it. Giving Erica Kirk. And the angels, obvious. There's angels that are involved. So now he needs
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the guns for the angels. We'll read that last line. Once I arrived, Mr. Marks explained that
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he was trying to protect an orphanage in Haiti and that the team was already packing their gear
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He stated to me that long-range rifle and camera
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if they attempted to scale the fence of the orphanage.
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to deter further attempts by gangs around the area.
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and its moral implications offering a different solution.
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I stated that I would not leave the rifle with him
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if he was going to kill some random person with it.
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was actually going to capture or execute Jimmy Barbecue,
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to the fleeting concept of what would Jesus do,
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why don't you just go have a meeting with the guy and talk?
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I then departed and left the long-range configured Fold AR rifle with him.
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Now, I'll have you know that Victor Marks does make it to Haiti.
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This meeting, going out to the orphanages, he was going to blow the head off of Jimmy.
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It was an opportunity to evangelize some of these gangsters.
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The FAA has banned U.S. flights to Haiti after three planes were hit by gunfire over Port-au-Prince this week.
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At the center of the chaos in Haiti's capital is the leader of a deadly group of gangs.
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After a visit from an American missionary, that gang leader is now pledging to protect orphanages and Christian workers.
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Gangs control the majority of the city and want more.
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Even so, missionary Victor Marks is still investing in ways to ease the suffering.
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The reason I'm here in Haiti doing all this high-risk missionary stuff is,
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a while back, we responded to the urgent requests of an orphanage that was under him under threat.
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of attack by many considered the most notorious gang in Haiti, the Mawazza 400.
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It broke my heart to think of the possibilities were in this gang attack
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While the orphanage was saved, a desperate population remains.
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Some say gang leader Jimmy Barbecue Cherizier is Haiti's most dangerous man.
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He faces sanctions from the U.S. and the United Nations.
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Entering his territory uninvited is all but suicidal.
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Yet when he offered an interview, Marx and his team quickly accepted.
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and some level of better equality, at least of opportunity.
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that is just amazing isn't that that's just a beautiful story beautiful beautiful story
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anyway let's uh fast forward 2025 right so they're in conversation about this company now in the
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first quarter and i'm again reading in first person here in the first quarter of 2025 mr
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Marx had offered to help find an investor for Fold AR. After all, he knew that we were just
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barely skimping by financially as there is not much margin and a lot of risk in manufacturing
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rifles with a very saturated and volatile market. So yeah, jumping in 2025, he and his wife are
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wanting to sell this company. They're cash strapped. They're willing to make this deal
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with Victor Marx on essentially two conditions. The first is that the guns are going to be used
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for school resource officers. They wanted school security to be the primary and permanent mission.
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The second is that they wanted to have enough money, but they agreed to sell the company that it would be enough money that they would no longer have to work.
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So those are pretty simple two conditions that they had.
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He tells us that as the stress of this had built up on my wife and I, I drove to Mr. Marks's house to discuss both personal and business related matters.
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When I arrived late at night, Mr. Marks and his COO, Chaz Yandel, he goes to Haiti, by the way, met me at the hotel.
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they were both wearing bulletproof vests. We sat down in the dining area, and Mr. Marks stated
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that he intended to perform another retooling prayer on me. I politely rejected his offer,
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advising him that it would be akin to me making an idol of him, as continually seeking deliverance
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from man is man worship. He appeared to respect my rejection, although later he would reveal his
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underlying reaction. Mr. Yandel stayed at the hotel that night in a room down the hall from me.
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Mr. Marks had a bodyguard near me and all were wearing bulletproof vests at all times.
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I thought nothing of it as Mr. Marks represented to me that they were just breaking in the vests
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and I proceeded to train his bodyguard on how to deploy the Fold AR.
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I spent three days with Mr. Marks where we discussed all sorts of topics
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from biblical prophecy and times, underground bunkers, marriage, salvation,
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As part of this, Mr. Marks revealed that he was discussing the acquisition with Sig Sauer and their top shooter, Daniel Horner, who Mr. Marks stated had received and tested the full AR and had given the thumbs up for Sig's involvement.
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He further stated that his accountants could only come up with a $2 million in valuation, including the patent.
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Then he stated that he personally wanted to purchase 51% of the company.
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Now, while I did present some challenges to his proposal,
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I let him continue to try to sell his reasoning.
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At this point, I wanted to see where this plane would land.
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As he talked further, I suppose that he assumed that I was on board.
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As we were walking his track around his property discussing this,
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And I turned to him. As he stopped walking, he stated, no, they need 50,000 guns for operations in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria.
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Being a person who usually avoids continuous eye contact, I dead stared him in the eyes, waiting for his response as he waited for mine.
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After telling his bodyguard to step back a few paces, his response to me was, do you know that I could whoop your ass right here and there's nothing that you could do about it?
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I remained motionless, staring him in the eyes with no response while he was getting fidgety.
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After about 15 seconds, he starts walking again and he says,
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that's why I'm never going to engage in scripture with you,
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which followed prior discussions where I had challenged his plans and his doctrine using
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scripture in the most respectful and tempered way. During that walk, I eventually reaffirmed to him
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that I would not be accepting an investor or a buyer who would not fully commit to the obvious
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mission of protecting children in schools. While at Mr. Marsh's residence, he showed me a structure
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that was being built behind his house, which included a large underground bunker and a front
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facing firearm port built into the concrete structure and an indoor shooting range. He
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stated that the intention of the complex would be used for spiritual retooling of traumatized
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officers who worked child sex trafficking cases in partnership with local, state, and federal
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agencies, and was going to be exclusively funded by donors. Days after I left his residence,
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we continued our conversations in a different tone. He continued on telling me that there is
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no longer a need for fold AR in schools. He cited some school shooting data statistics in error.
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I kept responding that despite any error in those stats, temporary statistics don't matter
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At the end, Mr. Marks asked me if we were still friends.
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to my wife and I, the couple that he had married
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just a year prior, and after a bunch of rambling
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and his wife and him are separated in this moment
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because he does not want to do a business deal.
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And I will say this is allegedly, allegedly, allegedly,
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And now I'm going to tell you guys about a mysterious transaction
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a person who wanted to purchase just one of his Fold ARs.
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and he purchased a Fold AR with the serial number 02735.
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Fast forward about a month later, on the 4th of July in 2024,
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that Texas deputy contacted Corby and he told him that the gun was stolen
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He said that he had accidentally left the car doors, the windows down,
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and someone grabbed the backpack with the Fold AR inside of it.
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And that Texas deputy then claimed that he reported it to local Midland police and that was it.
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No more follow-up. No one contacted Corby. Nothing. Just a missing gun.
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We're going to fast forward again to September 10th, 2025,
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the morning of Charlie Kirk's assassination at 9.33 a.m. Central. So again, this is a full year
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and two months later after this gun went missing and Corby receives an email from the ATF.
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They're conducting a trace on that exact gun. Now, you might be like me. You might not know
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what that means. What does an ATF trace on a gun? Why do they do that? What does it mean?
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Well, the ATF is, of course, the Federal Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives.
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They're involved, got involved in this case quickly, as we know, came back with the inconclusive trace on the Tyler Robinson gun.
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And when they are doing a trace, when they email you and say that they are conducting a trace, what it means is that they are seeking to identify the first retail purchase of a firearm that they have determined is involved in a crime.
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On the morning of Charlie's assassination, they reached out to Corby, effectively saying, this gun is involved in a crime, and you are the manufacturer, and we'd like to know where you sent it.
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You have 24 hours to respond to these emails, by the way, as a gun manufacturer or a gun
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Horby did, and mysteriously he heard nothing back.
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He felt very weird about it, given the eventual assassination of Charlie Kirk, everything
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that was surrounding the gun, no gun, magic bullets that went through.
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And so what he did was he decided to reach back out to the person he sold the gun to,
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And he picked up the phone and he said, no, no, ATF never contacted me, the person who the gun was sold to.
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The deputy also told him that he had checked some system that he has available and he has access to, and that gun is somehow not even reported as missing.
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Again, there has been no follow-up on that, and he forwarded me the email from the ATF.
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It is real. I have confirmed it. He is not making that up. It really happened.
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He forwarded me all of the evidence for everything that he is saying, the conversations that he has had.
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I believe his testimony of what happened to him, where his heart was when he created this Fold AR, and how people wanted to use this company.
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Telling him it's worth $2 million is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
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I'm going to leave that there because there is a lot more investigating that needs to happen.
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I feel, just as Corby does, the timing of that ATF trace is indeed odd.
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It is precise, and I'm looking into just some things about where he sold the gun,
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Well, because they have spent months trying to dissuade you in this idea that something bigger could be going on, right?
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I've been telling you that something's not right specifically with Turning Point Faith.
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Background, history, the Calvary Chapel, Rob McCoy type characters.
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Their utterly bizarre commitment to Israel.
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Their backgrounds, their shady backgrounds, their connections to the military.
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A person who is willing to testify about Victor Marx and his experience with Victor Marx and what was asked of him.
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and what he declined to do for Israel, allegedly, I will say.
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has been implicated many times over in trafficking arms,
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doing arms deals overseas, the Taliban, ISIS, Al-Qaeda,
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getting these sorts of weapons in the arms of rebels,
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exactly like what he potentially wanted to do in Haiti?
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How do these militants get these sorts of weapons?
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Do you ever wonder that, where the weapons come from?
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and they were trying to pretend that was so crazy.
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in case i just i'm saying this to to further impress upon you how real this is trump accidentally
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admitted that we sent arms to protesters in iran because that's our favorite move remember they
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were saying it was a conspiracy the iranian government was saying these protesters are not
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real they are working on behalf of israel um and they are are trying to from the inside out to
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collapse our nation essentially a color revolution which we do all over the world we've done it many
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times over. And then the government said, oh, no, this was just a normal uprising. This is how the
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people were feeling. Well, yeah, then then Trump accidentally and it was quite stunning, admitted
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to the fact that what was once deemed a conspiracy is a fact. We armed protesters in Iran. Take a
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listen to what Trump said during the White House Easter celebration. If they protest, if they go
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out in the streets they will be immediately shot they don't have guns you know we sent some guns
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but the group that was supposed to give which i said would happen to my people i said it i called
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it exactly we sent guns a lot of guns they were supposed to go to the people so they could fight
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back against these thugs you know what happened the people that they sent them to kept them
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because they said what a beautiful gun i think i'll keep it so i'm very upset with a certain
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group of people and they're going to pay a big price for that. But the Iranian people
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will fight back as soon as they know they're not going to be shot and as soon as they can
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get weapons. Oh, could you imagine that another way? Could you imagine if Iran,
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the Iranian government said, you know, we had sent all of these guns to American protesters.
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We had sent all of these guns. They could have an uprising against their government.
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That was supposed to go to, you know, the voters.
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Could you imagine if the shoe was on the other foot?
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my question is how how did he get how what was the plan there how do we do that when we are
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putting illegal arms when we are arming people in another government under another government
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in another nation how does that how does the military do that i'd like to hear more i have
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follow-up questions trump what was the lead-up to that how did you get weapons into iran i have an
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idea of how that works, because it's been done, like I said, many times before. I wanted to
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introduce you guys to this story about Viktor Marks again, so that you can be removed from
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this media illusion that it is crazy to think that pastors and churches and your government
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and multiple nations could all be involved in a trafficking ring. Because like I said
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because I have said from the beginning, my sense is that Charlie was betrayed. I have been looking
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at this now for seven months. It is very obvious to me that these pastors who claim to be evangelizing,
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these people that work at Turning Point USA, well, I used to be an arms trafficker dealer,
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and then I found God. Wow, a lot of that going around here at Turning Point. Yeah, I used to do,
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and then I found God. What a perfect cover. A perfect cover to continually say that you are
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committed to God and you're committed to the Lord when you are committed to anything but.
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And then you tell people they're demonic if they question it. Well, I am happy to question every
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single thing that Turning Point USA is doing, what they have done, and how long it's been going on.
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Because my deep down suspicion, when I think of the timeline 2018, is it just way, it's way too
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perfectly, just perfectly lines up with when Epstein went down. And it seems like there was
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this implosion all across the not-for-profit world. Like suddenly people just got into churches.
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That's my deep down suspicion is that we are looking at maybe Epstein not having gone down
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actually. Maybe Epstein just sort of re-emerging. The Epstein world just re-emerging somewhere else
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because something that global and that big doesn't just go down overnight. Doesn't just
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go down with one man. It gets a new head. That's what happens. So we're going to continue to
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prod this narrative and I cannot even process people who are still out here pretending Erica
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is some perfect victim who just has all the wrong friends. Stop doing that because it's dumb and
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it's dumb to be dumb. That's why you should stop doing that. We will take a quick break and be
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slash Owens. Again, that's AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. I see people in the chat saying that
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arms were used to kill civilians in broad daylight. I mean, I get it, guys. You don't even,
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And it is so clear to me what is happening in this world.
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Be very wary of these sorts of pastors is what I would say.
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And Colorado, did I mention he's running for governor?
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He's got a very checkered background amidst to being brain damaged
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and has been caught lying extensively, kind of like Erica.
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but that it's no it's never a bar to entry it's like they just welcome this at turning point usa
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like oh greg laurie yeah accused trafficking church harvest church is being accused of
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trafficking people from romania just incredible how this just keeps happening to the very godly
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woman that charlie married isn't it just so weird just none of my friends i can't none of them
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could say that they have this many people around them that have been accused of trafficking whether
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it's arms children i just zero zero percent of my friends amazing all right top comments from
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yesterday's episode big dog sound one writes leaving the daily wire is like leaving scientology
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i promise you it is so much worse than anything you have seen on tv it's just like no yeah way
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worse way worse it is a beyond cult beyond cult is what i would say and in the way that i have
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just been trying to leave like i told you even what they try to do to brett cooper like you just
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You're not allowed to leave. You just can't leave with your life intact. They're going to have to
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destroy you with us or you're against us. Well, I'm against you. I'm against Israel. I'm against
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everything they're doing. So at least I will die with my soul intact. That's what I would say.
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J-Dog writes, I was watching this at the gym. I look over and the girl on the treadmill next to
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me had it on too. I loved this. I responded. I said, ask her on a date. What is the follow-up?
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J-Dawg, got to ask her on a date, assuming you guys are both single. That would be such a great
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way to meet someone. You're both just watching the Kansas Owens podcast down the dreadmill,
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and we started a conversation. I love that. Okay, for today's episodes, oops, I have completely
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X out of this document. Let me read today's comments. Give me just one second. Oh, I am
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like way x'd out here here we are nope again in the wrong spot okay i do not know why but
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my entire thing just reset what episode number are we right now yeah it's weird just kind of
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run away let me try this yeah you can do that if that works thank you i'll just read them from the
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prompter? Okay, I think I actually see it now. It's just popped up. For some reason, I had to
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type it in manually. Okay. Comments from today's episode. BC writes, I practically broke my brain
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learning the ins and outs of the details of Russiagate to debunk and argue with the left
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about it. Now I wonder what the point was when Trump is now just doing everything that the
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Russiagate or neocons wanted. The Russiagate thing was just completely ridiculous. I actually
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personally now um view things in terms of theology i'm like yep that's a christian nation that it's
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a christian nation stop trying to tell me that i should hate them when we are allied with
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ball worshipers in the middle east bitsy figurino writes i used to read the book of revelation and
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wonder how it was possible that the antichrist could antichrist could deceive so many christians
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despite openly mocking god and impersonating christ i don't wonder anymore my loyalty is to
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the Lord Jesus Christ, not any government, exactly what I just said. And that's exactly what it
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should be. They've done such a good job of making us see, oh, you're this nation, so you should root
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for this team. And we're rooting for Christians to be mass slaughtered everywhere. It's unbelievable.
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And there's just this recurring theme that Israel is behind it. And then they try to gaslight us,
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and they try to call this anti-Semitism, even when you have people from Israel who are telling you
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that this is the circumstance. And they are suffering too, right? Compulsory to serve in
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the IDF and people that are committing suicide when they come out because they are being sent
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to just mass murder children. I mean, it's unbelievable. People have testified who have
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testified to that effect of how it disturbs them mentally and how they hear the children screaming.
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It's unbelievable. Seven Sheets writes, nowhere else do you get this kind of journalism. Some
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others, of course, but I support it on the book club. Chaos Amazing, a great follow up is weird
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scenes in Canyon. I am fascinated by the secret founding. That's what we're reading right now,
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the secret founding of America. It is fascinating. God bless you and keep it coming in faith and
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prayer. Thank you so much. Son of a guppy writes, just got home. Grab my phone. Candice is on.
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Shabbat shalom. Oh my gosh, poor Charlie. Auntie Penelope writes, many of these born-again
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churches have people like this who backs slide only to think that the Lord will forgive them
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over and over. They are the ones that scream the loudest about our Catholic priests and I am so
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tired of it. Yes, there is a theme that these people hate Catholics. They hate Catholics with
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everything in them. You could go find any one of these pastors talking about Catholicism in such
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a despicable way. And it is because their job is very, to use what we're going to be talking about
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in book club this week, Order of Zion, right? And we are supposed to be serving Israel and we're
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supposed to be serving only whoever the leader of Israel is in the Likud party, the furthest to the
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right, which would be BB Netanyahu, and anybody that's in our way needs to go. And the Catholic
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Church has historically always stood in the way of this fringe Zionist belief that the world
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belongs to them and that they're chosen. And that has already been predetermined. So anything they
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do, no matter who they kill, lie to, screw over, it's all forgiven because they're just, they're
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chosen. Chosen by whom, I would wonder. Dan Sully writes, so grateful that you are leading the
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charge on exposing this blatant cover-up. Jimmy Dore reviewed your Trump response and loved it
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Two years is not possible. That stinks to high heaven. Why was he let go? Interesting. I didn't
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know that. I do not know much about the military. And there was somebody who did a very deep dive
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on this, just as we were preparing this. What was it? Corey, what is the last name? Kennedy?
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I feel it's Corey Kennedy. C-O-R-I Kennedy. And I'm not sure the background of this person,
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but similarly, this individual was already looking into Victor Marks, had been looking
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into Victor Marks for months, actually, and has done a very good job on both X and on Facebook.
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Corey Kennedy has done a deep dive into Victor Marks. We don't possibly have the time to uncover
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all the things that he has said. A friend of his committed suicide, a teenager, and the cops brought
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him over and questioned him and made him look at the brain splatter on the wall. I mean, there's,
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it just never ends. And there have been interviews where people have very heavily suggested
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that Viktor Marks is just, in fact, a compulsive liar.
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I will leave that to the people that are in the military.
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to further discuss the gun that mysteriously disappeared.
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I also will do my best to try to get something out to ATF.
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Anything involving the Charlie Kirk assassination,
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again, we don't know if that gun has anything to do with it,
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what crime was it associated with, I guess, on September 10th?
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what crime that gun was associated with on September 10th?
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I'd like to know and we'll find out because we're nosy and we're not going away. We're going to
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continue to prod the narrative regarding what happened and what did not happen on September 10th.