Candace Owens - Trump Attacks The Pope. The Tyler Robinson Narrative Collapses. ｜ Candace Ep 323

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00:00:30.000 All right, you guys. Happy Monday. I'm back. I hope you missed me. I missed you guys. 0.96

00:00:34.800 Well, I guess technically I was back on Friday, too, because Trump. Trump is just, he's lost his

00:00:39.480 mind, and he hasn't found it over the weekend, I'll tell you. There has now, I guess not since

00:00:45.140 1981, have there been shots fired at a pope over politics, but Donald Trump is under demonic

00:00:51.700 influence, so he's decided to aim a few figuratively at his holiness, Pope Leo XIV,

00:00:57.420 and it's not going well for him.

00:00:59.880 It is not going well for Trump at all.

00:01:02.980 Also, in case you missed it,

00:01:04.020 Barron Coleman made a shocking discovery last week

00:01:06.420 in the Tyler Robinson filings,

00:01:08.900 which confirmed some of our earlier reporting.

00:01:12.080 We should definitely go over it

00:01:13.660 because outside of naked corruption,

00:01:16.040 the way that I'm looking through these matters,

00:01:18.680 I just see no way in which the feds can win this case.

00:01:22.280 Tyler Robinson, in my view, did not commit this crime.

00:01:24.520 I'm convinced and I'm going to show you more evidence

00:01:26.720 as to why I am convinced.

00:01:28.600 And lastly, guys, donors have contacted me,

00:01:32.180 Turning Point USA donors that were in Aspen

00:01:35.180 when Charlie allegedly said I appoint Erica Kirk.

00:01:39.260 They told me that that audio is completely faked

00:01:43.160 and they are shocked.

00:01:45.180 So, welcome back to Candace.

00:01:56.720 okay you guys before we get to the meat and potatoes of today i at first have to tell you

00:02:06.480 about my weekend because it was a little cray cray i'm pretty convinced that my life is in fact a

00:02:11.520 sitcom okay one that's probably being written by will ferrell i i sometimes believe i could be a

00:02:16.820 sims character and someone's having a lot of fun so on background i had not spoken about this before

00:02:22.700 because it's pretty lame,

00:02:24.040 but my foot has been broken for the last four weeks.

00:02:26.480 I broke my foot, no joke, on Friday the 13th,

00:02:30.100 there's a picture, and I was doing nothing.

00:02:32.860 It was very uncool.

00:02:34.100 I was wearing a slipper that was too big for me

00:02:37.220 and I got up to take one step.

00:02:38.900 I slipped inside the slipper

00:02:39.980 and I landed like this on the front of my right foot,

00:02:43.780 heard the pop, very proud of myself.

00:02:45.720 I did not scream because my daughter was within earshot

00:02:48.560 and I didn't want to scare her.

00:02:49.480 But anyway, as you can imagine,

00:02:50.920 with four kids beneath the age of five, it's a minor inconvenience, okay? I can't even hold my

00:02:57.200 youngest, who is 11 months, not yet walking beyond, you know, a few feet before it grows too

00:03:03.760 tiresome. So anyway, Saturday morning, I get up all the kids, right? We're going to this outdoor

00:03:08.040 market. We're going to meet up with Theo Vaughn. My kids love Theo Vaughn. And at this particular

00:03:12.980 market, there happens to be a playground. I want to be clear, it is a preschool playground. It is

00:03:17.900 for toddlers, not even for kids. So I buy what I need to buy at this market. And my husband

00:03:23.980 is with me and he's holding the 11-month-old because I can't hold him. And it's already,

00:03:29.580 you know, not the best Saturday morning because I had only just learned the day before via a

00:03:35.860 presidential statement that Brigitte Macron is way better looking than me. I actually learned

00:03:41.500 that it's not even close. It's not even close. I'm kind of ashamed to show my face in public.

00:03:45.060 I'm wearing my big sunglasses. Anyway, so I got what I needed for dinner and I was then heading

00:03:51.820 to the toddler playground right next to the market. So the kids could run around for a bit

00:03:57.640 and about 40 feet away from the little gate that opens the playground, my husband notices that 0.93

00:04:05.760 there's an older woman that's laid out on the concrete in the middle of the parking lot.

00:04:09.480 There's two men standing above her. There's obviously something going on. I instantly know

00:04:13.820 what that means. My husband is that kind of guy who is always going to go try to help in every

00:04:18.480 scenario. And he's like, well, I have a medical kit in the car. I have a medical. Let me just

00:04:22.280 see if she's OK. And I'm like, mildly being a little selfish because I'm realizing I'm going

00:04:26.660 to have to hold the bag and I have to hold the baby. And I'm like, there's already guys over

00:04:30.960 there. But I'm like, OK, no, obviously you should go and you should try to help and see if they've

00:04:34.920 called 911. So I just want to put that in your mind. Me in a boot, like a medical boot, walking

00:04:42.020 with a limp, holding a grocery bag on my left shoulder and a very tall, off the charts tall,

00:04:48.060 11 month old. Just want you to know that in this moment, I'm obviously a victim. It's also like

00:04:53.360 85 degrees boiling on top of that. And I make the 40 feet journey. And as soon as I get onto

00:05:01.440 the playground at this preschool, I see Cabot Phillips. Okay. Erica's ex-boyfriend, one of the

00:05:09.160 many. A current Daily Wire employee who was featured on my podcast when Mitch gave a description

00:05:15.840 of a guy that he believed that he saw with Erica at Fort Huachuca back in September. You will recall

00:05:22.500 that I texted Cabot Phillips before we mentioned him on the podcast looking for a simple yes or no

00:05:28.800 response. Hey, were you at Fort Huachuca? Guy kind of thinks this person fits your description. He

00:05:34.160 made a decision not to answer. Not really sure why. I kind of think it's because he works the

00:05:39.700 Daily Wire and it's kind of like a big drama club and they overthought it and were like,

00:05:43.360 we can just ta-da and surprise her, whatever. Anyways, he looks at me and his jaw, literally

00:05:49.920 his mouth was a jar, like a sitcom. I don't think people really do that. I didn't think people

00:05:55.440 really did that in real life, but he did. So I said, I said, hi, Cabot, because what else would

00:06:00.160 you say when someone's like this? And he goes, no, you know what? I am really not wanting to do

00:06:08.040 that right now. And I said, okay, we don't have to do anything. We obviously, we are in a very

00:06:13.120 confined space here with very small children. He had his two-year-old, I've got four kids on

00:06:18.760 his playground. He was outnumbered, to be clear. I've got four kids on his playground, but he was

00:06:24.200 fired up. So he wanted to have a little verbal tussle, I guess. And his energy was giving dad

00:06:31.020 at a t-ball game, you know, the one that wants to argue with the ump who's really like a teenager

00:06:36.340 volunteering. And he's just like, no. So he then said to me rather mysterious, really mysteriously,

00:06:43.100 he was like, this is my son. So I look at the kid, really cute. And I said, oh, hi. And he goes,

00:06:50.060 oh, really? Because of you, people don't believe that he is my son. Okay. Totally confused. I was

00:06:58.440 so confused. I've never been more confused. I'm also hot and I can't walk. I have investigated

00:07:04.720 a great many things on this podcast, but the paternity of Cabot Phillips' son, not this show,

00:07:10.820 wrong show, wrong podcast. Kamala's grandmother, absolutely, that was me. But this, a little bit

00:07:15.580 out of line. So I said, Cabot, this is not the appropriate place. We are on a toddler playground.

00:07:20.300 If you would like to step outside of this designated play area and have a conversation,

00:07:24.840 I would be happy to, but not in front of my kids. And then he says, oh, now you care about kids?

00:07:31.580 I was like, yeah, that's kind of my whole brand. I care about kids and my kids have no idea what I

00:07:38.280 do. So again, if you'd like to step out of this perimeter, we can have a chat. And then he sort

00:07:42.860 of huffed and he was texting on his phone. And then he decided that he wasn't done, I guess.

00:07:49.020 And this next part, I just was like, who is writing the script? He drops his bottom lip like

00:07:55.480 this. And he says, this is my tattoo. Here it is. This is my tattoo. See? And I didn't obviously I

00:08:03.760 couldn't see anything from where I was standing. I had no idea what was happening. Four kids,

00:08:07.820 a broken foot, the inside of Cabot's bottom lip, all happening in like 85 degree muggy weather.

00:08:13.900 There's just no justice in this world. I want you guys to understand I was a victim.

00:08:17.360 I'm being victimized on this toddler playground. And the dialogue obviously going on in my head

00:08:23.000 was, Cabot, please put your lip back inside of your mouth before I punch you in your face.

00:08:27.440 But I'm a doll. I'm like a Southern peach now. So I instead reinforced to him, I said, Cabot,

00:08:33.540 we are on a toddler playground. This is just not the appropriate place. And then he said,

00:08:39.380 oh, would your podcast be a more appropriate place? And that was giving Todd from Wedding

00:08:45.160 Crashers when he's like, oh, will that make you love me? And yeah, obviously my podcast would be

00:08:50.120 a more appropriate place because like toddlers are not my general demographic. And I would like

00:08:56.340 to state unequivocally that never in the history of this podcast have I discussed Cabot Phillips

00:09:00.740 tattoos or his inner lips. And anyway, I think after this, he suddenly sort of arrived at his

00:09:06.560 senses and realized that it was very strange to take your lip out at a toddler playground.

00:09:12.740 But of course, because my life is actually a sitcom, someone thought, wouldn't it also be

00:09:17.740 funny if then after all of that, there are like two kids wanted to be friends with one another?

00:09:22.600 Exactly what happened. My two-year-old has now worked out that he's basically the same size as

00:09:27.840 Cabot looks like he's two-year-old and the two of them are looking at each other like they want to

00:09:31.600 play and I'm like are we gonna do this I'm looking at my son look at his I'm just like are you guys

00:09:36.220 gonna really and they were like did we just become best friends they're looking at each other like

00:09:39.440 we're the same size we have the same color hair and I then had to sit there for the next 15 and

00:09:44.820 20 minutes sitting there with my broken foot as our little toddlers drove around each other in

00:09:51.280 their cars so I just wanted you to know that that is my life in a nutshell my life is very strange

00:09:55.920 It's unpredictable. And I want to also state that I believe that that is Cabot Phillips' child. I

00:10:03.140 never made the claim otherwise, but he certainly seemed to know him and to like him. So whatever

00:10:08.400 pocket of the Internet is looking into that, consider the matter closed. Anyway, had to share

00:10:12.740 that with you. Moving on. Some actually huge breaking news to you regarding Erica. Now,

00:10:18.760 before we went on break, we had informed you that I had been sort of quietly prodding the narrative

00:10:23.760 for months that Charlie, a mere weeks before his untimely death, literally weeks before,

00:10:30.100 took the stage in Aspen at this investor retreat where he was giving an update on the company

00:10:35.000 and he stood in front of a bunch of donors and for some reason, after somebody asked

00:10:39.720 him a question about what would happen if you died, because that's a totally normal

00:10:46.960 question to ask that Charlie declared that he wanted to appoint Erica as the CEO and the chairman

00:10:54.040 of his company. Didn't pass the sniff test for obvious reasons. OK, number one, no husband ever,

00:11:01.180 no man ever would say if I am killed on the job, I want my wife to assume the dangerous position 0.98

00:11:08.020 that I just occupied. Right. Put another way, they want us to believe that Charlie was like, 1.00

00:11:12.740 look, if I get assassinated, my wife should then be put in that very position that led to my

00:11:17.220 assassination. Hopefully our kids will figure it out. It just makes no sense. Beyond anything else, 0.95

00:11:22.200 I just want you to feel free to be able to produce sense. That's kind of the point of my

00:11:28.120 whole podcast. It's okay to have common sense and to not rely on experts. They're increasingly

00:11:33.380 stupid. And so I just was like, I'm going to look into that. And despite telling us all about how

00:11:42.640 they had caught this amazing moment on video. We had first actually heard this

00:11:46.560 from Erica, as we showed you, telling Meg and Kelly. They all sort of repeated it. This is

00:11:50.760 what Charlie said. When pushed, Turning Point declined to show the video. Instead, they chose

00:11:56.640 only to release the audio. And when we asked for the video, Blake freaked out. Blake Neff,

00:12:02.560 Blakey boy, Blakey the Neff, Neff to the Blakey, my man Blake. He freaked out. He said that I was

00:12:11.500 a psychopathic subway killer that was wielding a knife. I said, if I have to be that in your

00:12:17.800 imagination, that's fine. Can we see the video? He said, no, we're never going to show you the

00:12:20.760 video because it'll never be enough. Little too much emotion, Blake. I know how to read rums.

00:12:25.520 You're not acting right. Well, guess what happened after we aired that episode? And I guess I hadn't

00:12:30.760 appreciated that we had never said that that happened in Aspen. Most people were assuming

00:12:35.880 that that happened in the Hamptons. It did not happen in the Hamptons. It happened in Aspen.

00:12:39.060 So after my episode, I had another two donors reach out to me who were present at this Aspen event, and they were shocked. I guess they're watching my show, like Cabot Phillips, they're like, uh-uh, ajar, because while they had heard, obviously, Erica at AmFest, that she walked out to Charlie saying that, they had heard her discuss that statement,

00:13:05.460 they were not aware that Turning Point was making the claim that the statement occurred at that

00:13:09.640 event. And they said unequivocally, that did not happen. Charlie never uttered those words. They

00:13:16.940 were shocked to hear it. So I'm going to run that clip again of what they are alleging that Charlie

00:13:23.900 said. Take a listen. But we have a great board and God forbid if something happens, they'll figure

00:13:27.700 it out. I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA if something happens to me. Erica would do a great

00:13:31.760 it's just very strange that he would say appoint my wife like why would you have to make an

00:13:36.180 appointment there you could just discuss it even if you were going to say you'd be like

00:13:38.820 oh you know i think that this person will figure it out whatever whatever but i appoint is so

00:13:42.660 formal it is just so formal that right there it turns out might be charlie gpt a term by the way

00:13:51.140 that you should know was first uttered charlie gpt in an interview by none other than our guy

00:13:56.160 Andrew Colvett he claimed after Charlie died that they had pitches from companies that wanted to

00:14:03.260 create just that don't believe me take a listen to Andrew Colvett and at what point I guess at

00:14:10.140 what point did it become clear to you that this was going to that that you were going to at least

00:14:15.780 temporarily not fill Charlie's shoes but take over part of his role because obviously since then

00:14:22.460 you have been not alone but you you have been running the charlie kirk show you are for the

00:14:27.920 moment the voice um the voice of charlie kirk in the aftermath when when did that become clear that

00:14:37.040 that was something you were going to undertake yeah and i just want to be very clear that i don't

00:14:42.360 see myself as that i've uh you know i worked with charlie just about every day for eight years and

00:14:47.540 I feel like I have a Charlie GPT or something in the back of my head.

00:14:51.080 I mean, truly, I hear...

00:14:53.040 As long as you don't do the weird AI thing.

00:14:55.280 We are not going to do the weird AI thing.

00:14:57.520 We've been pitched on that multiple times.

00:14:59.160 I'm just like, guys, no, no, not at all.

00:15:02.620 Okay, so they've been pitched on that.

00:15:04.520 Do I believe that after Charlie died,

00:15:07.360 people would have been so distasteful as to rush in

00:15:10.000 and immediately pitch a Charlie GPT scenario?

00:15:13.680 No.

00:15:14.000 I think it's plausible that those pitches took place before Charlie died for a litany of reasons.

00:15:19.940 They might suggest that.

00:15:21.140 I mean, I've certainly been in places where they've pitched me on like AI Candace, hologram Candace, because it helps you not have to go to so many places at once.

00:15:30.920 Oh, you can have a hologram.

00:15:32.140 That probably sounds more right to me.

00:15:33.640 My question is, did they take someone up on their offer to create a Charlie GPT?

00:15:38.120 because, I cannot stress this enough,

00:15:41.420 the donors who were in attendance in Aspen

00:15:43.820 are telling me that Charlie never said this.

00:15:47.480 Not only that, but they are telling me

00:15:49.240 that multiple times throughout,

00:15:52.300 when he had an opportunity to even bring up Erica,

00:15:54.760 he did not.

00:15:56.420 Apparently Erica was up in Aspen,

00:15:58.460 but was not at this exact presentation

00:16:00.200 when the questions were asked.

00:16:01.380 There was even a smaller dinner that took place later

00:16:05.320 with just about 12 people in attendance

00:16:08.100 that took place after the presentation.

00:16:11.580 They asked him about his future plans for Turning Point

00:16:14.320 and Erica was never mentioned.

00:16:16.740 When I say they are stunned, they are stunned.

00:16:19.080 They are saying, you need to pursue this further

00:16:21.760 because they're lying.

00:16:23.620 This did not happen at the Aspen event.

00:16:25.640 It would be very easy for them to drop this video

00:16:27.560 and they want it dropped, okay?

00:16:29.400 These are donors to Turning Point USA.

00:16:31.480 what can I say there

00:16:35.960 how evil are the implications there

00:16:39.480 do you understand

00:16:40.440 are you comprehending

00:16:41.760 because I don't think I am fully comprehending

00:16:44.120 how evil that would be

00:16:46.920 if true

00:16:48.560 that they used an AI program

00:16:51.380 which Blake Neff's reaction to me

00:16:54.740 I've been around

00:16:55.880 suggests that they did

00:16:57.340 because it's just so much easier

00:16:58.360 why would you just release the

00:17:01.480 audio and not the video. This is crucial, okay? This is crucial, and I'm not going to let this

00:17:05.320 go. I'm like a dog with a bone on this. Turning Point must release the video and disprove the

00:17:09.480 notion that they made this up because the notion signifies that there was a plot, a plot to remove

00:17:16.120 Charlie and then to use Charlie GPT to convince the world that it was effectively Charlie's dying

00:17:23.180 wish for his wife to replace him, right? They thought, okay, well, people are not going to

00:17:26.300 believe this. He's been talking about wives staying at home, so we're going to have to have something 0.69

00:17:30.080 that convinces them that this is actually what Charlie wanted. 0.71

00:17:33.720 I know it would do.

00:17:34.260 We'll create a sentence that he said weeks before he died.

00:17:37.400 And it's unlikely.

00:17:38.980 And to add to that totally unlikely scenario,

00:17:41.920 they also kept insisting immediately

00:17:44.320 and through various interviews

00:17:45.680 that Erica was raised by a single mother,

00:17:48.340 something that is objectively untrue.

00:17:50.880 We have proven that a thousand times over.

00:17:52.300 It is objectively untrue for them to even suggest

00:17:54.880 that Erica was raised by a single mother.

00:17:56.560 It's not true.

00:17:57.960 And by the way, it's weird that she describes herself as a single mother.

00:18:01.280 You would say you're a widow. 0.99

00:18:02.140 Just totally different vibe there.

00:18:04.620 This feels evil to me.

00:18:06.580 I have a troubling sense, a growing troubling sense that Charlie never said it.

00:18:12.340 Now being deepened further by donors with direct knowledge of this event.

00:18:16.840 And speaking of a growing and troubling sense of evil,

00:18:21.040 there is a relationship that needs to be further explained.

00:18:27.040 I think, or further understood between Erica Kirk and Ben Shapiro. It's beginning to make me

00:18:32.160 uncomfortable. It keeps presenting itself. I didn't want to see it at first. I wasn't cynical

00:18:36.660 enough to see it at first. I remember early on, people were like, do you think he's showing a

00:18:40.120 takeover Turning Point USA? And I said on my show, no, I don't think so. But something happened

00:18:45.500 during break that has changed things, I think, for me. And there's just too many coincidences

00:18:51.560 adding up here, okay? First and foremost, I have told you, I have proven to you many times over

00:18:55.480 that Charlie hated Ben.

00:18:56.720 Everybody knows that.

00:18:58.640 Even Jeremy Boring,

00:19:00.000 when he won his like Candace tour,

00:19:02.060 kind of caged his response

00:19:04.000 and tried to make it sound good

00:19:05.520 that the two of them did not get along

00:19:06.860 when he was on Piers Morgan.

00:19:08.060 That's the former CEO of Daily Wire.

00:19:11.020 Erica knew this.

00:19:11.920 Andrew Colvett knew this.

00:19:13.340 And as I've said to you,

00:19:14.480 after I was fired from Daily Wire

00:19:15.820 in the beginning of 2024,

00:19:19.780 Charlie took my side

00:19:21.520 in a very big and public way.

00:19:23.220 Ben then set to work behind the scenes, getting like the Jewish network of donors and writers to peer pressure Charlie to distance from me because of anti-Semitism.

00:19:33.320 Andrew admitted in that same New York Times interview that we just showed you that he effectively forced Charlie to interview Ben a few days before his death.

00:19:42.600 Charlie did not like that. He was upset with Andrew as Andrew illuminates.

00:19:46.880 Then Charlie dies a couple days later. Ben says he's going to pick up the bloody mic.

00:19:51.320 Okay, fine. Maybe just poor phrasing. He then gets, behind the scenes, he gets Caleb Robinson

00:19:58.960 to negotiate to have Ben on Charlie's show. Actually, they wanted to have only Matt Walsh

00:20:04.740 on the show. And Caleb said, well, how about a two-for-one special? Andrew Colvett agreed to do

00:20:10.360 that. So he inserted himself again where he was not wanted. He then went to the funeral. All of

00:20:16.780 that to me was very weird. And then it got something felt off when Erica elected to have

00:20:23.700 him open AmFest. I said, this is too much, right? He then is radical and instant in his demands for

00:20:30.880 Megyn Kelly to say something about me, to do not look into Erica Kirk. He was one of the reasons

00:20:37.120 that I actually looked into Erica Kirk, because I thought this is very weird. Why is he? He's

00:20:41.300 almost signaling to us that we should look into Erica. Megan, demand you say this. Michael 0.61

00:20:48.380 Knowles, even now, calling her evil, looking into the wife as a potential suspect, which is like

00:20:53.440 what happens all the time in the course of any investigation. That's evil. He was too emotionally

00:21:00.180 invested. And I started asking myself, is he also financially invested in some manner?

00:21:05.240 He went on his show and he demanded that Erica sue me for dropping a two-minute trailer.

00:21:11.300 That was his response to the trailer. Erica should sue Candace for a trailer that just has Erica's own words in it. This is after he's been suing me for two years, okay, in arbitration court so people can't read and see how mentally unstable he is and what he wants money over. 1.00

00:21:26.640 Then I get a flurry of emails last week

00:21:28.800 from people at Alliance Defending Freedom, okay?

00:21:34.300 Massive organization.

00:21:35.960 They do great work.

00:21:37.340 You know, if you remember the baking the cake

00:21:40.600 for the gay couple, it's, you know,

00:21:42.480 it's like a free speech organization

00:21:44.240 on behalf of Christians, okay?

00:21:48.740 So they, again, touch some of these people

00:21:50.600 and they're like, you know,

00:21:51.780 Ben is working with Erica on ways to sue you.

00:21:55.660 He's become suddenly very influential in Alliance Defending Freedom.

00:21:59.440 So has Seth Dillon, who like they helped him, Seth Dillon, at one point.

00:22:02.960 And I'm like, well, isn't this a Christian organization?

00:22:04.880 What are you talking about?

00:22:05.640 Ben Shapiro is working with Erica Kirk and Turning Point with Alliance Defending Freedom.

00:22:10.380 That doesn't sound right to me.

00:22:12.340 And they said, Candice, I can prove it.

00:22:14.360 I said, OK.

00:22:16.040 And sure enough, they send me an internal video of their CEO at first just discussing

00:22:22.780 the fact that they were working with Erica regarding me. So I'm just going to show you

00:22:29.800 that video. This is, again, their CEO, no beef with her. It was just proof that what they were

00:22:35.320 saying was true. Take a listen. I think the other thing I would say is just something that happened

00:22:40.780 yesterday. I was on a phone call with a large organization. You would know very, very well,

00:22:49.640 and there's a lot of tension around who they are right now and it has to do with Candace Owens

00:22:56.380 which might give you a clue of what we're talking about and it just it was a moment where I was able

00:23:02.920 to share all the garbage we've been through in the last three years and the way we've thought

00:23:08.560 about decisions that we have made whether it's whether you sue someone whether how do you respond

00:23:14.220 to hostility? How do you respond to persecution? How do you deal with mess and strategically have

00:23:22.560 a new leadership team? All those things. And they felt so crummy when we were going through them.

00:23:27.900 And yet it was like, it was a reminder that God uses all of those things for his purposes.

00:23:35.500 And then as proof that Daily Wire was driving this bus, they informed me that the public is

00:23:41.060 not aware, but that they quietly took a board seat. This is a massive organization. There's

00:23:46.700 only, I think, eight board seats in total. And they showed me that in an internal presentation.

00:23:54.440 And I'm going to show you this, I guess, still of that. If we have that, you guys,

00:23:58.360 Caleb Robinson is the CEO of Daily Wire. He is now on the board of directors. So it's like,

00:24:04.080 you know, almost a silent seat for Ben. I would describe that as because Caleb Robinson doesn't

00:24:08.280 have any legal experience. And they said that Ben was driving the bus, gunning for me through

00:24:13.280 Alliance Defending Freedom. So why am I telling you this? Because this makes me uncomfortable.

00:24:17.000 I don't know what his obsession is with Turning Point USA, but there is one that I think the

00:24:22.520 public is becoming aware of. I'm also saying it because I have been often said to you that this

00:24:26.780 organization, like the Daily Wire, has, in my view and my understanding of what gang stalking is,

00:24:33.460 has been doing this since the day they fired me. It has not stopped. It has been an onslaught of

00:24:37.040 my life every way, trying to stop speeches, trying to get people to say things about me,

00:24:41.000 having articles written, you know, trying to have other people reach out and go after

00:24:47.280 my advertisers.

00:24:49.040 It has been not, I was fired from Daily Wire in 2020, where we are in 2026.

00:24:53.560 It has been over two years.

00:24:55.560 And you're telling me they stopped personally suing me to get involved with Alliance Defending

00:24:59.360 Freedom and to encourage other people to sue me, as these people are telling me?

00:25:03.240 there was something that megan kelly said um i don't remember who she had in her show but she

00:25:10.580 was talking about mark levin and she said there is a piece of her that feels like he genuinely wants

00:25:15.760 to like hurt her like he would want harm to come to megan kelly like if someone killed her he would

00:25:21.080 be happy and i watched this and i went yes like my head obviously i said i i agree with this and

00:25:26.660 this is exactly how i feel about ben shapiro i can't explain to you but like there was an

00:25:31.020 obsession here. He's brought back my socials. They make videos. It has not stopped. And I just

00:25:36.900 want to make sure that at every turn, this is the only, I feel this is the only weapon that I have

00:25:42.400 back against them is to continually expose the stalking that goes on behind the scenes. There

00:25:47.940 should be, by the way, an organization, if you're going to talk about a line of spending freedom or

00:25:53.180 people that are helping Christians, there should be an organization that is dedicated to protecting

00:25:58.040 employees or former employees or former contractors from this level of non-stop consistent harassment 0.59

00:26:06.780 and focus and obsession. Just fire someone. This should never be happening to you at work,

00:26:12.920 but I will forever publicize it so people are aware of, and obviously people have seen it,

00:26:17.460 they've brought back my socials, and this is apparently going on behind the scenes.

00:26:22.080 They're somehow involved with Turning Point USA and egging for them, and this person did also

00:26:26.560 mentioned Seth Dillon. One of them mentioned Seth Dillon. The other three people at Align Spending

00:26:31.620 Freedom all said Ben Shapiro. But yeah, it's just going on. And I just want to give a spotlight to

00:26:37.920 it. So maybe we can try to go one month with this man leaving me alone. I highly doubt it. There is

00:26:43.120 something about him that feels dangerous. And I will leave it at that. We'll be right back after

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00:30:24.620 You know, it's just occurred to me that I should probably state that it was not the Cozy Earth

00:30:28.900 slipper that I slipped in. It was actually a pair that I got from the UK, and the bigger lesson of

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00:30:46.120 in London. I got the wrong size. But then because they came in, I had to just wear them because then

00:30:51.380 I felt extra ridiculous. I should just listen to my husband. And yeah, I've now been in this boot

00:30:57.220 for four weeks. And he has said lessons learned the hard way. Anyway, you guys, getting into what

00:31:03.760 Baron Coleman discovered. So one of the earliest stories that we broke actually back on September

00:31:09.000 29th, to be precise, was that we had a source with direct knowledge regarding Tyler Robinson's

00:31:16.180 arrest. And they had insisted to us that it was known to the police that Tyler Robinson was their

00:31:23.860 guy before seven o'clock p.m. on September 11th. OK, I'm going to show you on a timeline why that's

00:31:30.540 important. The second thing that they noted to us was that Governor Cox and the police, they were

00:31:37.580 lying about the clothing that he was wearing when he was brought in. It just struck them as odd that

00:31:43.180 they were saying that he was wearing an outfit that he was not wearing. So we had included that

00:31:47.620 little tidbit on our original timeline when the police, the Washington County police, knew that

00:31:53.340 it was Tyler Robinson, which was, again, by 7 o'clock p.m., they were all texting each other.

00:31:58.220 They had said they initially had planned to pick him up in Warner Valley, but, and this is a part that has not come out since, that he was buying a gun, that Tyler Robinson had been buying a gun in Warner Valley, purchasing another gun.

00:32:16.040 But then suddenly there was some sea change and they learned that he was coming in cooperatively.

00:32:21.360 A couple of things I could say about that.

00:32:23.140 There are some people that have been speculating that perhaps the plan, if we all accept that this is all fed slop, was that Tyler Robinson was going to maybe die in a shootout or something.

00:32:33.720 And this little tidbit that has never been brought forth to the public about him purchasing a gun in Warner Valley is of interest to me.

00:32:41.560 But let's get into why that specific 7 o'clock p.m. timeline could be interesting.

00:32:47.340 So rather amazingly, Baron Coleman was climbing through documents which were filed by Tyler

00:32:53.360 Robinson's defense team, and there was something that we had completely missed.

00:32:57.160 And these documents suggest that Tyler had already been Mirandized and was sitting in

00:33:03.860 a police station to be interviewed at 6.25 p.m. on the 11th.

00:33:08.880 And I'm going to show you that in the motion to exclude still photography.

00:33:14.500 So they are making an argument as to why the media should not be trusted and they should

00:33:20.680 not be allowed to come into the courts because they've lied about everything.

00:33:23.000 And they talk about this moment.

00:33:25.580 They are talking about a video that they have in evidence.

00:33:30.020 And they're saying this timestamp at the three hour and 36 minute mark of the video, which

00:33:34.800 shows you that it was 6.25 p.m. when this interview took place. They list this, 6.25 p.m. This is a

00:33:43.180 police officer saying, so Tyler, before we begin, I'm just going to read you your rights. And he

00:33:47.860 says, mm-hmm, okay, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you

00:33:52.960 in court. You have the right to talk to a lawyer before advice, before we ask you any questions.

00:33:59.560 You have the right to have a lawyer with you during questioning. If you cannot afford a

00:34:04.800 for you before any questioning begins. And if you decide to answer questions now, you can stop at

00:34:09.600 any time. Okay. So are you good to proceed? Because I'd love to talk to you. And Tyler comes back and

00:34:16.900 says, I would like to speak with my legal counsel. I'm hoping for a fellow in Utah named Doug Terry.

00:34:23.440 And he says, okay. And then Tyler says, I told he's a pretty good attorney here, but I think my

00:34:30.120 folks are trying to get a hold of him, but I think his office is closed for the night, okay?

00:34:37.140 So it certainly sounds like this would have taken place during the evening that we know that Tyler

00:34:46.060 was arrested, and I'll tell you why that's a very big deal if that was 6.25 p.m. on the 11th,

00:34:51.700 because if that conversation took place in that time frame, it completely collapses the federal

00:34:57.580 narrative. So let's get to that timeline so you can take a look at this of what took place on the

00:35:02.280 11th. So much has transpired. It's hard to remember. On the 11th, at first, this was a

00:35:09.100 suspect at large. The FBI had a press conference at 7 a.m. where they confirmed that they found

00:35:14.160 the weapon in the woods. At 7.15, Tyler Robinson is captured on camera filling up his gas at the

00:35:21.500 Maverick gas station in Cedar City. At 921 a.m., New York Post exclusively reveals the photo of

00:35:28.220 a gun used in the shooting. But I also should say this was not actually Tyler Robinson's gun.

00:35:34.060 They're going to tell us it was a similar weapon, which is kind of interesting when you consider

00:35:39.740 the text messages where he says, my old man recognized the gun. It's really because it

00:35:44.020 wasn't the gun. Weird. Anyways, that's when they also mentioned the fact that there were engravings

00:35:50.080 on the bullets because everybody's doing this now at shootings they just engrave the bullets

00:35:53.760 at 9 48 the fbi salt lake city releases the static images that's the one the now infamous

00:36:00.780 images of the staircase that are way too blurry they begin to circulate um and then we can kind

00:36:06.440 of scroll down and you can see what we're told happens and this is according to the messages

00:36:11.000 like the affidavits that the mother recognizes tyler and calls him okay okay but now let's go

00:36:17.200 down to 5 30 p.m okay 5 30 p.m cash patel and dan bongino arrive on the scene at 6 17 the fbi

00:36:24.780 salt lake city releases another round of photos of the alleged shooter on x photos of him again

00:36:31.560 walking up the stairs tyler robinson i should say maybe here was already in custody if this proves

00:36:39.020 to be 6 25 p.m on the 11th because in order for that interview to start we should assume he arrived

00:36:45.760 at the police station before 6.17 p.m.

00:36:48.520 And his questioning begins there.

00:36:51.780 Again, you can find this yourself

00:36:53.780 in the motion to exclude still photography,

00:36:56.620 which was filed on March 30th.

00:36:58.400 I can't fathom that they would be referring to the next day

00:37:01.760 because he was already in custody.

00:37:05.900 He had already been booked arrested.

00:37:07.080 Are we supposed to believe they never tried to speak to him

00:37:09.120 until 6.25 p.m. on the 12th?

00:37:11.940 That doesn't feel right to me,

00:37:13.520 but they have, it seems to me, gone through excruciating lengths to never include any

00:37:19.420 timestamps in anything that they have presented to the public because they seem to be making this

00:37:23.240 up as they go along. At 7 o'clock p.m., this is what we had initially. Our source informed us

00:37:30.120 that it was around this time that everyone locally began receiving text messages that they had Tyler

00:37:34.380 Robinson, that they were going to pick him up in Warner Valley, which was 12 miles away from St.

00:37:39.620 George. And then we have Governor Cox at 8 o'clock p.m., which makes this very strange because if

00:37:46.500 that's true, and I believe that my source was on the money when they said that they knew it was

00:37:52.120 Tyler Robinson at 7. So whether they had him in custody or they were just texting about it, they

00:37:56.080 knew that they had their guy. It makes it very strange that at 8 o'clock p.m., Governor Cox then

00:38:02.300 leads a press conference with Kash Patel and Robert Bowles, you know, the new FBI guy they had

00:38:07.940 just put in place um from dc they brought him over and put him into utah uh they're all saying

00:38:15.000 we don't the guy's on the run they released the video of the suspect they released new stills

00:38:20.940 they say they're seeking help from the public to identify a suspect that feels very strange

00:38:27.500 if in fact they had tyler robinson and the police officers are all messaging messaging each other

00:38:34.120 saying, we've got the guy. Then we have Sheriff Brooksby, which we will get from a later press

00:38:41.980 conference. He will say that that's when he received the phone call from Mike Mitchell,

00:38:47.060 that Mike Mitchell tells him that he's trying to get Tyler Robinson to turn himself in.

00:38:52.200 It just, everything starts getting weird. He says the phone call is less than two minutes,

00:38:58.020 and then Sheriff Brooksby calls the Utah County Sheriff Mike Smith to tell him about the call

00:39:06.740 that he just got from Mike Mitchell. They're all excited. They tell us at nine o'clock that Tyler

00:39:11.620 arrives at the police station. That's according to the press conference that is given by Sheriff

00:39:16.600 Nate Brooksby. That's not going to track. Everything just falls apart. It almost feels

00:39:22.280 like they're trying to fit it in to make it seem that it was in the 33rd hour that Tyler Robinson

00:39:29.440 was booked. Cash Patel will later say that. They're all saying in the 33rd hour. This feels

00:39:34.700 entirely fictitious to me. I have said I feel like they just wanted to say 33 hours because it seems

00:39:41.120 to me like they were signaling to one another. 33, 33. Yes, that stuff exists. Yes, Freemasonry

00:39:47.140 exists. Yes, this exists globally. We just proved that a couple of weeks ago. France,

00:39:51.780 assassin squads tied to Freemasonry. So we can stop pretending that that's a figment of anyone's

00:39:56.560 imagination, least of all mine. That was something that Blake Neff was cutting apart about. You

00:40:00.880 think there's symbolism with 30. Yes, I know that there is symbolism, that symbolism is crucial to

00:40:07.660 Freemasonry. I know that Freemasonic gangs exist and they carry out hits and they murder people. 0.87

00:40:13.800 And if you don't know that, I would be pretty surprised, Blake. 0.85

00:40:17.240 You wouldn't be so angry if you didn't know that.

00:40:20.620 At 1026, the search warrant states that Tyler Robinson arrived at Washington County Sheriff's

00:40:25.840 office with his parents.

00:40:27.040 So we already have this disparity.

00:40:28.740 It's good to see these timelines because once you start plotting it, you're like, wait a

00:40:32.500 second.

00:40:33.200 So why did Sheriff Brooksby tell us that he arrived at nine?

00:40:37.920 Now we hear that he arrived at 1026.

00:40:41.360 And by the way, the tape is apparently lost of when he arrived. Right. The fact that and I don't know if that's been updated since, but the fact that we are told that the the video footage, I believe the local Utah press attempted to get the video footage of Tyler Robinson turning himself in or walking into a police station.

00:40:59.600 and they were unable to secure that footage strikes me as extraordinarily odd. But if you

00:41:04.860 are tracking what is being implied here, that they're lying about everything, then they would

00:41:10.500 have to remove that footage. Now, they didn't say it was deleted. They said it wasn't in their

00:41:16.120 custody. You know, they're kind of never really saying anything assertively because they're making

00:41:22.960 it up as they go along. But it certainly strikes me as plausible, at least plausible, very plausible,

00:41:29.040 that Tyler was already in the police station

00:41:32.440 and they just didn't want to say anything

00:41:34.600 until the 33rd hour.

00:41:37.660 So yeah, I find all of that very interesting.

00:41:40.880 And something also to remind you of

00:41:42.380 is how many times they lied early on.

00:41:44.840 You may have forgotten,

00:41:46.140 but Governor Cox also initially told us

00:41:48.620 that the messages were on Discord

00:41:50.740 when they first came out.

00:41:51.940 Then they changed and they said,

00:41:53.780 oh, those messages that we released,

00:41:55.020 they weren't on Discord.

00:41:55.900 They were on iMessage.

00:41:56.880 No, that's another federal change.

00:41:59.040 You can listen to him say in the initial press conference, we got him, 33 hours, see you in Valhalla.

00:42:05.880 You can hear Governor Cox say that the text messages were found on Discord.

00:42:11.540 Take a listen.

00:42:13.180 Investigators identified an individual as the roommate of Robinson.

00:42:17.440 Investigators interviewed that roommate who stated that his roommate, referring to Robinson, made a joke on Discord.

00:42:24.820 Investigators asked if he would show them the messages on Discord.

00:42:27.480 He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate.

00:42:37.480 These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages between the phone contact name Tyler with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device.

00:42:48.160 The content of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact tyler stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush, messages related to visually watching the area where a rifle was left, and a message referring to having left the rifle wrapped in a towel.

00:43:12.180 The messages also refer to engraving bullets and a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique.

00:43:20.880 Messages from the contact, Tyler, also mentioned that he had changed outfits.

00:43:28.360 He said Discord. We understood Discord. We all said Discord.

00:43:33.160 But then what happened was Discord themselves came out immediately and said that wasn't true.

00:43:38.280 Discord gave a statement on September 12th.

00:43:41.280 They published that statement in The Hill, and they said,

00:43:43.280 We are deeply saddened by this tragedy.

00:43:45.380 We extend our condolences to the Kirk family and everyone affected.

00:43:49.060 Discord person said in a statement,

00:43:50.580 In the course of our investigation, we identified a Discord account associated with the suspect,

00:43:55.020 but I found no evidence the suspect planned this incident or promoted violence on Discord.

00:43:59.860 So they suddenly changed their minds, and they said,

00:44:02.780 No, this was happening via iMessage.

00:44:04.740 That wasn't a mistake.

00:44:05.600 He's reading from a piece of paper.

00:44:07.840 He's reading from a piece of paper. And then the feds got caught lying. And then they altered things. And they said, we always said that it was iMessages. And here's something else that's super interesting that I want to point out to you is that, Ashley, you said that in their filing, they are saying they're not going to use or present the forensic messages, right?

00:44:30.600 So they're alleging they took pictures of Lance's phone of this text exchange when they brought Lance in. And they're going to show those pictures during the trial, but they're not going to actually show the forensic messages which they would get, I'm assuming, from Apple or maybe T-Mobile or whatever. That is very strange.

00:44:54.700 Okay, this actually gets to the heart

00:44:56.680 of exactly what the defense has been saying.

00:44:59.600 They are saying they have all this evidence,

00:45:01.500 but they are not supplying us with anything concrete.

00:45:04.920 We can't see the chain of custody.

00:45:06.580 We can't see where the message was created.

00:45:08.560 If I give you a picture and I say,

00:45:11.200 this is me texting with so-and-so,

00:45:13.420 I took a picture on my phone,

00:45:15.420 why would you take that and accept that that's reality?

00:45:18.480 Especially when your life is on the line.

00:45:20.440 No, you need the forensic messages.

00:45:22.660 You need the custodial chain. You need to be able to see exactly when this message was created. And they're trying to get that. They're in discovery. They're not getting what they're asking for. And now the prosecution is explicitly saying we don't even plan to use the forensic text messages that we took of Lance's phone. Huh? What do you mean you don't plan to use those? What is the exact verbiage? Do we have that, Ashley, of what they said and where that was filed?

00:45:50.480 it. I know you texted to me and I should have pulled that up and had that ready, but that's

00:45:53.480 completely crazy. This is the game. They want to put on a show trial and say, well, here's the

00:45:58.640 picture of Lance's phone. Lance, to me, is very obviously a federal informant. He's working for

00:46:05.080 and on behalf of the feds. He would be the perfect person to set up Tyler Robinson. And don't forget,

00:46:10.240 I had a communication with Lance's family early on. They said to me it was completely insane

00:46:15.880 that Lance was not taken into custody.

00:46:18.780 It was completely insane

00:46:19.800 that he was basically there for a couple of hours

00:46:23.800 and then released back at home.

00:46:25.460 But he has real issues

00:46:26.860 that he has a bend toward violence.

00:46:32.240 They talked about,

00:46:32.920 I communicated this to you guys early on,

00:46:35.160 the things that would go on as he was raised,

00:46:37.060 how they eventually had to kick him out of the house.

00:46:38.620 They own the house that Tyler Robinson and Lance live in.

00:46:42.300 And they are telling you

00:46:43.700 that the relationship between Lance and the feds is unnatural.

00:46:48.100 I resented that to you.

00:46:48.920 Lance's own family is saying that.

00:46:51.300 Now, their number one claim to we have evidence is Lance Twiggs,

00:46:56.740 but we don't know anything about Lance Twiggs.

00:46:58.140 He seems to have just completely disappeared.

00:47:00.440 That, to me, reads like a federal asset.

00:47:04.180 Lance, that's your roommate, okay?

00:47:05.840 Maybe you, I'm giving you an example here.

00:47:07.380 I'm not saying this is what happened,

00:47:08.240 but maybe they catch Lance on a website,

00:47:11.400 kind of like George Zinn, right?

00:47:14.180 You got to blackmail.

00:47:15.080 Here's what you're going to do.

00:47:15.720 You don't want to go to prison.

00:47:16.720 You don't want to go to prison for this.

00:47:18.220 Here's what you're going to do.

00:47:18.960 Your roommate, you're going to get his gun.

00:47:20.980 You're going to do this.

00:47:21.640 You're going to do that.

00:47:22.340 We're going to be in his room.

00:47:24.120 We're going to say that he was into trans fed stuff or fetish, whatever it is.

00:47:30.560 You're going to do this. 0.80

00:47:31.100 You're going to do that.

00:47:31.460 You're going to do this.

00:47:31.800 That is how the feds can turn somebody into an asset.

00:47:36.660 The Lance Twiggs element of this makes no sense.

00:47:39.500 I cannot stress that enough.

00:47:40.460 Here is the verbiage of what the prosecution is saying about how they plan to use the messages.

00:47:45.840 You can pull that up.

00:47:47.920 With the exception of a photograph of a burnt note, which was provided on January 9th, doorbell surveillance from a single property, a DNA report regarding items found in the defendant's apartment, and tool marks report, each of the witnesses and exhibits have been known to the defense for at least six months before the preliminary hearing, most of the evidence to be presented.

00:48:09.080 At the preliminary hearing, including the DNA report regarding the rifle found at the scene was provided to the defense in October of 2025, the state does not intend to offer evidence obtained through forensic extractions of electronics seized in this case.

00:48:27.800 So, again, getting up to this preliminary hearing, this is why Tyler Robinson's defense was up in arms.

00:48:32.380 They're like, they're just going to put on a show trial and show you guys pictures, but we can't prove whether or not these messages are real.

00:48:37.460 and they're admitting we do not intend to offer evidence obtained through forensic extractions

00:48:43.360 of electronics seized in this case. It does, however, intend to offer two exhibits which

00:48:49.500 used cameras to record the contents of text messages. So we're going to show you our recording

00:48:55.800 of Lance's phone, but we're not going to present any forensic evidence that what we showed you was

00:49:00.560 real. This is unbelievably problematic. It's a setup. Okay, this is a setup. Tyler was a patsy.

00:49:06.820 I maintain that. And they're not going to go away with it because I will read through every

00:49:11.680 doc and I will find everything. I will organize it. I will do timelines. You just don't get to

00:49:16.380 assassinate Charlie Kirk in broad daylight and create Charlie GPT to try to make us forget about

00:49:23.940 it and think that I'm not going to be on your case. It doesn't work like that. Anyway, I think

00:49:29.200 we are, oh my gosh, we are over time and I did not even get to Trump going after the Pope. Okay,

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00:51:32.460 I don't want to rush through the Pope segment, so I'm almost thinking I should bump it to tomorrow.

00:51:36.700 I mean, you guys obviously know my perspective. Trump is very clearly under demonic influence.

00:51:41.120 I think Paula White probably put a spell on him of some sort. I mean, he is surrounded by,

00:51:46.840 ironically, the very thing that he accuses me and Megan and Tucker of being because we're calling

00:51:51.020 for peace. We're calling for peace. And he's like, these people are nut jobs. And then he has

00:51:56.660 people like Laura Loomer, who has been forcibly placed on site 5150 holds as his number one

00:52:01.720 advisor. She's like, I'm advising him. We've got Paula White, who's telling him he's akin to Jesus

00:52:05.580 Christ, which is absolutely blasphemous. And he thinks these people are totally sane. Again,

00:52:10.120 very scary to be that far in the cave. He is so in the cave. He is so convinced of his own

00:52:16.960 invincibility. It is completely unhinged that he was deeply upset by the Pope telling him the truth,

00:52:25.220 The Catholic perspective is that this is an unjust war

00:52:29.060 because it is, obviously, okay? 0.85

00:52:31.580 You can't just decide that you wanna take things from Iran

00:52:34.220 or rather not decide, 0.86

00:52:35.780 but Bibi tells you you're gonna take things from Iran

00:52:37.840 and then you just do it 0.54

00:52:38.520 and you put American lives at risk.

00:52:39.800 It's unjust, even honestly,

00:52:42.140 if you remove Catholicism,

00:52:44.660 it's just unjust in general. 0.98

00:52:45.900 It's morally contemptible 1.00

00:52:47.180 what you are doing in the Middle East, okay?

00:52:50.780 And forget the part that you went against

00:52:52.940 every single one of your promises

00:52:54.080 and betrayed your base,

00:52:57.540 betrayed the people that were out there

00:52:59.260 trying to get votes for you,

00:53:00.700 betrayed the Charlie Kirk,

00:53:03.780 you betrayed Megyn Kelly,

00:53:04.820 you betrayed Tucker Carlson,

00:53:06.220 you betrayed me.

00:53:07.680 I just, you know, could not care less.

00:53:10.420 I am very happy to die with my soul intact.

00:53:14.060 And now you have him just swinging at the Pope,

00:53:17.760 swinging at the Pope.

00:53:18.320 This is what he said on X.

00:53:21.180 And his excuse is amazing.

00:53:22.320 He said, Pope Leo is weak on crime.

00:53:24.860 This is not a tweet.

00:53:25.760 We're not talking about Hillary Clinton, okay?

00:53:28.240 He's talking about the Pope.

00:53:29.340 He's not running against the Pope.

00:53:31.280 Pope Leo is weak on crime, terrible for foreign policy.

00:53:34.700 He talks about fear of the Trump administration,

00:53:37.100 but doesn't mention the fear that the Catholic Church

00:53:40.120 and all other Christian organizations had during COVID.

00:53:43.000 What?

00:53:43.860 When they were arresting priests, ministers, and everybody else.

00:53:46.160 Why would he talk about that?

00:53:48.420 That's not happening right now.

00:53:49.980 What?

00:53:51.240 He wants him to get into a time machine

00:53:52.740 and talk about what's going on in 2021.

00:53:54.400 Okay.

00:53:55.360 He goes on.

00:53:56.560 I like his brother Louis much better than I like him.

00:53:59.060 Oh, okay.

00:53:59.940 Because Louis is all MAGA.

00:54:01.600 He gets it and Leo doesn't.

00:54:03.320 I don't want a pope who thinks it's okay for Iran

00:54:05.420 to have a nuclear weapon for the last 25 years,

00:54:09.080 according to Bibi Netanyahu.

00:54:10.320 I don't want a pope who thinks it's terrible

00:54:12.100 that America attacked Venezuela,

00:54:14.100 a country that was sending massive amounts of drugs

00:54:16.160 into the United States and even worse, 0.69

00:54:17.640 emptying their prisons, including murderers, 0.53

00:54:19.720 drug dealers and killers into our country and i don't want a pope who criticizes um the president

00:54:25.640 of the united states because i'm doing exactly what i was elected in a landslide to do setting

00:54:29.840 record low numbers in crime and creating the greatest stock market in history leo should be

00:54:35.880 thankful because as everyone knows he was a shocking surprise he was not any list to be pope

00:54:42.400 and was only put there by the church because he wasn't american and they thought that that would

00:54:46.500 be the best way to deal with President Donald J. Trump. If I wasn't in the White House, Leo

00:54:53.680 wouldn't be in the Vatican. I'm sorry. What?

00:55:01.080 Look, I'm not here to pretend that I'm a theologian, that I've been Catholic for a long

00:55:06.340 time, but is that what goes on at Conclave? Do the cardinals arrive and they go, oh, well,

00:55:12.880 we were going to do our thing,

00:55:14.240 but like what really matters

00:55:15.600 is Trump's president.

00:55:16.880 We want to make sure

00:55:17.600 that we can deal with Trump.

00:55:19.180 So we're just going to make

00:55:19.800 somebody from Chicago. 0.71

00:55:20.880 That feels like the right thing

00:55:22.040 because he's got a Trump tower in Chicago.

00:55:23.480 Like, is that what he thinks happened?

00:55:26.160 That he had all of these cardinals arrive

00:55:29.340 and this was the discussion

00:55:30.580 as people waited for white smoke outside,

00:55:33.720 that that is what was happening on the inside.

00:55:35.760 You cannot be that narcissistic.

00:55:40.400 Can you?

00:55:42.000 Can you?

00:55:42.880 i think he is i think i think that's what laura loomer said to him i think that is she texts him

00:55:51.260 and she's telling the truth and she's like he wouldn't even be pope if it wasn't for you she's

00:55:56.560 like been very borderline lately like she's like feels like she should probably be putting another

00:56:01.060 hold but like she's still out there tweeting crazy things i feel like that's what paula white

00:56:06.080 said to him like in a couple of her her blasphemous prayers of like she's like hey the catholic church

00:56:10.640 should. Thank you for Pope the 14th. What? What? Is everybody okay? No one around him is okay. 0.79

00:56:19.000 And I'm making fun of it, but I want to be clear that he is truly, and I do not say this to be

00:56:25.460 extra. I do not say this to be performative. He is truly under demonic influence. You see that in

00:56:30.700 the prayers. And, you know, I have to say respectfully, it was definitely something,

00:56:36.460 which I am hopeful

00:56:39.820 and please forgive me

00:56:41.360 if I'm out of line here

00:56:42.360 but I'm hopeful

00:56:43.020 that more cardinals

00:56:44.820 more princes of the church

00:56:46.300 will speak out

00:56:46.980 against the role

00:56:48.400 that some of our bishops

00:56:50.440 have had in this

00:56:51.440 in I think some of them

00:56:53.680 have gone too political

00:56:54.800 Bishop Barron

00:56:55.840 standing beside Paula White

00:56:57.060 during that prayer

00:56:58.000 and his excuses

00:56:59.080 why I was there

00:56:59.720 well then you should make a statement

00:57:01.000 after and say this is wrong

00:57:03.100 this is wrong

00:57:04.460 I didn't mean to be

00:57:06.040 I didn't know what she was going to say when she prayed, but what she said was wrong and it was

00:57:10.860 blasphemous. And no, Trump, this is Easter and Trump has nothing to do. He is nothing like Jesus

00:57:17.780 Christ. In fact, Trump is not even a Christian. And so there is a role here that I think the

00:57:25.920 Catholic Church needs to step in a really big way. I think there are too many TV bishops,

00:57:31.320 uh too many tv pastors too many people that have turned um you know what it means to be a christian

00:57:40.180 into reality tv frankly you know you you you can you can wear the clerical robes and be presenting

00:57:48.080 yourself as something totally different there there there needs to be a and there has been thus

00:57:53.540 far a very severe reaction um just all across the faith everybody every catholic bishop every

00:58:00.200 catholic cardinal but catholics in general um we can't we can't support trump you can't you

00:58:05.140 cannot support trump in this moment and um i have to say um his holiness was very precise in how he

00:58:12.500 responded to the attacks if we could just pull up that video of um what he had to say take a listen

00:58:19.100 i basically said that uh the message of the church my message the message of the gospel

00:58:26.460 Blessed are the peacemakers.

00:58:29.460 I do not look at my role as being a political politician.

00:58:32.460 I don't want to get into a debate with him.

00:58:35.460 I don't think that the message of the gospel is meant to be abused

00:58:39.460 in the way that some people are doing.

00:58:42.460 And I will continue to speak out loud against war,

00:58:45.460 looking to promote peace, promoting dialogue

00:58:48.460 and multilateral relationships among the states,

00:58:51.460 to look for just solutions to problems.

00:58:53.460 Too many people are suffering in the world today.

00:58:55.460 world today. Too many innocent people are being killed. And I think someone has to stand up and

00:59:00.220 say there's a better way to do this. Now let's cut to what Trump had to say when he was asked

00:59:06.800 about why he attacked the Pope. Take a listen. Why did you attack Pope Leo on true social?

00:59:14.880 I don't think he's doing a very good job. He likes crime, I guess. He hit us. Think of it.

00:59:21.320 he's worried about fear. What about the fear when the ministers and the priests and the

00:59:29.320 all of those great people that were arrested during COVID and in many cases they're outside

00:59:35.640 10 feet apart and they were arrested. So we don't like it. We don't like a pope that's going to say

00:59:42.360 that it's OK to have a nuclear weapon. We don't want a pope that says crime is OK in our cities.

00:59:48.380 I don't like it. I'm not a big fan of Poplio. He's a very liberal person and he's a man that doesn't believe in stopping crime. He's a man that doesn't think that we should be toying with a country that wants a nuclear weapon so they can blow up the world. I'm not I'm not a fan of Poplio.

01:00:08.700 Guess what? He's literally trying to stop crime because what you are doing in the Middle East is criminal. 0.99

01:00:14.120 Everybody is telling you that you've lost a large portion of your base. 0.99

01:00:18.000 You have lost Maha. You've lost Megyn Kelly. You've lost B. You've lost Alex Jones.

01:00:23.860 You've lost. And this is just that's just in terms of the commentary act, if you will.

01:00:28.420 And you refuse to see reality. You just refuse to see reality.

01:00:31.340 You're so convinced that you can just drop another tweet.

01:00:33.820 And of course, he then dropped a picture of himself as Jesus Christ on top of that.

01:00:37.980 and got even backlash from the Protestants

01:00:42.780 who said this is completely inappropriate.

01:00:44.760 And his response, this is the image, by the way,

01:00:47.180 if you have not seen it, obviously, healing the sick.

01:00:50.180 And his response to dropping that

01:00:54.340 was that he didn't realize that that was supposed to be Jesus

01:00:57.880 and that he thought that the AI image was suggesting

01:01:00.780 that he is a healer and a doctor

01:01:02.600 because he is a doctor in his own mind.

01:01:06.440 So that's his excuse for just continuing to be so disrespectful to Christians.

01:01:13.240 As opposed to just saying, I'm sorry, this AI image was not appropriate.

01:01:17.300 It went out.

01:01:17.820 People were not thinking, thought it was funny, poor taste.

01:01:20.760 He came out with an excuse that he thought he was a doctor.

01:01:25.080 Take a listen.

01:01:26.400 Mr. President, did you post that picture of yourself depicted as Jesus Christ?

01:01:30.940 Well, it wasn't depicted.

01:01:32.200 It was me.

01:01:33.240 I did post it, and I thought it was me as a doctor.

01:01:36.440 and had to do with Red Cross as a Red Cross worker there, which we support.

01:01:41.240 And only the fake news could come up with that one.

01:01:44.540 So I had, I just heard about it and I said, how did they come up with that?

01:01:50.860 It's supposed to be me as a doctor making people better.

01:01:54.060 And I do make people better. I make people a lot better.

01:02:00.760 He thought he was a Red Cross doctor.

01:02:02.420 so that's why he posted it because like obviously he was um what year was that actually he was a

01:02:08.460 doctor skyler i'm sorry i just need to produce no um could can we ask charlie gpt okay when did he

01:02:17.320 wow where it's not coming up for us that uh trump was ever a doctor so i don't know why he would

01:02:22.500 feel that the image was relating to him as a doctor for red cross healing the sick that seems

01:02:27.840 and wearing that particular getup

01:02:30.100 doesn't feel to me

01:02:32.160 like he was a Red Cross doctor.

01:02:35.340 But that's the slop we're getting.

01:02:37.300 It's been a sloppy year, my friends.

01:02:39.320 It's been a fetty sloppy year.

01:02:41.400 We're just going to keep getting it.

01:02:43.520 We're just going to keep getting it.

01:02:44.440 Anyways, let's get to some comments

01:02:45.580 before I leave. 0.99

01:02:47.780 We have Kimberly Wood.

01:02:49.660 These are the top comments

01:02:50.300 from last episode.

01:02:51.160 Kimberly Wood writes,

01:02:51.840 Charlie died free.

01:02:53.160 You will die a slave.

01:02:54.540 Quoting me, that hit hard, man.

01:02:56.780 It is the reality.

01:02:57.840 and slavery is a choice, and people laugh when Kanye said that, but I hope people aren't laughing

01:03:04.340 anymore, because to have those restrictions, to do those things, and to be made a mockery,

01:03:09.680 what is all the wealth and buildings and names when people have this perception of you

01:03:14.200 as unable to just make your own day-to-day decisions? The next person wrote,

01:03:18.920 Candace has presented more evidence that Brigitte is a man than Trump has presented that Iran is a

01:03:23.400 threat to the USA. Think about that. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually crazy that you keep saying Iran is

01:03:29.940 a threat to the USA. You presented no evidence. I have done almost two seasons producing. Xavier

01:03:35.660 Broussard spent eight years in that book. Maybe you should read it. But whatever. Everyone's

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01:05:44.500 And yeah, anyway, you guys, some of your comments, did I just read?

01:05:48.600 No, I just read the comments from yesterday.

01:05:50.740 A few before we go.

01:05:52.020 Flame of Love Carmel, thank you, by the way, for that massive tip, writes, never thought

01:05:57.120 it would be Trump and Netanyahu to bring Protestants and Catholics back together.

01:06:00.360 to Trump watching. A gold chain is still a chain. Love that. A gold chain is still a chain indeed.

01:06:06.440 Yeah. And yeah, like I said, Protestants come to the mix and we're like, okay, yeah, this is crazy. 1.00

01:06:11.480 You are crazy. Except for Paula White, because she, like I said, probably authored the tweet, 1.00

01:06:15.320 if we're being honest. Jess Happy writes, battle bun activated. You have never been more beautiful 0.94

01:06:18.940 inside and out. Truth is everything. Thank you for being bold. Christ is king indeed.

01:06:22.640 Thank you guys for being just as bold. And also just thank you for, I think we're all just doing

01:06:28.260 something really different. Like I said, just the collaboration that's happening with this

01:06:31.360 Charlie investigation, it makes me so happy still. Like when I just think about the fact that they

01:06:36.480 thought that everyone would move on from Charlie after, oh, look, we're putting on a big show and

01:06:41.320 all these politicians are here. And Erica says, I forgive him. And they just never bet on us being

01:06:47.320 this focus and this committed to every aspect of this case, all the independent creators. And I just

01:06:51.920 know that wherever he is he is seeing that and to know that he is still a trending topic like

01:06:58.360 he has not gone away just means like that's the best influence i think that he could have had in

01:07:02.420 his life and that is like you know i just feel like that's that's the kind of love that you want

01:07:07.620 truly and to have really made a difference so thank you guys for for your focus and you guys

01:07:14.180 caring about us getting to the truth of what happened on september 10th because we know we're

01:07:17.380 not getting it. Chloe writes, we need to know who asked Charlie who he'd want to replace him if

01:07:22.220 something happened to him. I will get to the bottom of that. I know who was at that event now.

01:07:25.820 I'm working on that. Like I said, I always have background investigations going on, and I'm

01:07:30.420 dead focused on that. Christina Schwetz writes, praying the protection of St. Michael over all

01:07:34.920 truth tellers. The darkness cannot hide from the light long. The demons are squealing. Christ is

01:07:38.580 King. Jesus loves you all. Thank you. St. Michael prayer works. I'm also keeping a novena right now,

01:07:43.140 now, a Marian Novena that I have to do every night until Christmas. So it's actually kind of

01:07:48.820 now just become a part of my repertoire. CC Zag writes, so if her only motive was to make sure

01:07:54.120 Charlie's vision would keep going, but they have yet to do any Prove Me Wrong events, not a single

01:07:59.100 live debate since, I'm sure Charlie would say she's been an epic failure across all boards. Yes. And

01:08:03.900 even in the events that she's doing, they're faking the question and answer segment, like

01:08:08.140 they're pre-planned. I've seen people doing videos about that. We have received emails.

01:08:11.440 it's all like to create the illusion of speech

01:08:14.720 but there actually isn't any speech

01:08:16.420 and yes they have reversed course

01:08:17.980 on all of his perspectives

01:08:19.040 and they continue to gaslight us about it

01:08:20.620 so anyways long Monday

01:08:23.320 I had a lot to say

01:08:23.880 I was off air for a long time

01:08:25.120 we will continue to drive home a narrative

01:08:28.000 super interesting stuff

01:08:29.000 that we have unpacked over the last week

01:08:30.560 that I cannot wait to present to you all

01:08:33.740 yeah I guess we will see you tomorrow

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Candace Owens - April 13, 2026

Trump Attacks The Pope. The Tyler Robinson Narrative Collapses. ｜ Candace Ep 323

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