Candace Owens - TPUSA RESPONDS： Yes, The Text Messages Are Real. ｜ Candace Ep 249

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I gotta tell you something. Twitter or X, it hasn't really been that fun in a really long time. I think Elon Musk clearly gave it away to the military. And we now have to suffer these military bot farms calling for war with Iran. But last night, the platform was exceptional. It was amazing. The tears that were being shed all over the place.

00:00:22.120 I mean, I really picked out the best responses to me dropping the text messages. It was hilarious. Anyway, Turning Point USA has responded to the release of the messages. So we are going to watch that. Spoiler alert, they were real, of course. And on top of that, Turning Point USA donor has published a public letter regarding me. And I was truly touched by it. And I think you will be too. So I want to share that. Welcome back to Candace.

00:00:52.120 Welcome back to Candace.

00:01:22.120 We're fighting one another to see who will it be? Who will it be that gets this empire? That really made me chuckle. I think that should be our new show intro.

00:01:31.360 Yes, yes, yes, yes. Who will succeed? Charlie Kirk. Who shall inherit the Turning Point throne? You know what, you guys? The best part of all of this for me is unlike those ill-begotten heirs on the show, I have a 0% interest in Charlie's empire.

00:02:00.060 I am not motivated by the idea of carrying on his torch. Not for a single moment did I think any person could carry on his torch. If you thought you could, you clearly did not know Charlie Kirk. Charlie was, in fact, an anomaly in the system. It happens rarely. And yeah, I don't know that I will live to see another person like him.

00:02:19.820 I want you guys to know something. I want to share this with you. You can take it or you can leave it. But Charlie was betrayed.

00:02:27.460 I know this. I've known this really since the first second. But I rarely have vivid dreams. And I did, in fact, have a very vivid one over the weekend. In fact, last time that I had a super vivid dream, I was pregnant.

00:02:42.920 It tends to happen a lot to women when they're pregnant. But in that dream from 2023, my former producer of the show and I were standing in the control room and she told me that she was 26 weeks pregnant.

00:02:56.140 This is in the dream. And she told me exactly what month the baby was coming. I asked her in the dream, is it a boy? Is it a girl? And she said, it's a boy.

00:03:03.280 I woke up and I immediately texted my producer in real life. And I said, hey, you're pregnant, just so you know, it's a boy.

00:03:10.360 And then she found out that she was pregnant one week later. She had no idea when I texted her.

00:03:14.640 And it's something that we reflected on a couple of months later because she was just totally shocked looking back on it.

00:03:19.060 And this is our text chain from, you can see, 2023. She said, you texted me June 16th.

00:03:26.420 And I think I got pregnant June 26th. This is crazy. And it's going to be a boy. It's nuts.

00:03:31.360 I said, I'm telling you, your baby visited me. It was an insanely vivid dream. He was on his way.

00:03:37.400 And she said, that is so bizarre. My mom also texted me that week saying that she had a dream I was pregnant.

00:03:42.180 I said, I haven't had a dream that vivid since. It's been my only vivid dream this entire pregnancy.

00:03:46.820 I believe people can communicate in dreams on their way in and on their way out of this world.

00:03:53.500 I similarly, like I just said, had a vivid dream this weekend.

00:03:57.080 And Charlie came to me and he told me that he was betrayed.

00:04:02.620 And so for me, you don't have to believe that, but I do believe that.

00:04:06.820 And it was the immediate sense I got, actually.

00:04:10.960 And I don't know who exactly it is that betrayed him.

00:04:13.760 But I also felt in the dream that it is soon going to be revealed, that it's actually inevitable that it is going to be revealed,

00:04:19.300 that there is nothing and no one that is going to stop the truth from coming out.

00:04:22.560 And it is going to have international consequences.

00:04:25.680 Take that to the bank. Quote me on that.

00:04:28.680 Women tend to have a stronger intuition about people, I would say. 0.52

00:04:32.420 I think it was the writer, producer Conrad Flynn that recently went on to Tucker Carlson's show.

00:04:39.480 And he discussed that, discussed that phenomenon in the context of the persecution of Christ.

00:04:46.160 He was talking about Pontius Pilate's wife warning him not to persecute Jesus.

00:04:52.420 Take a listen to that portion of their conversation.

00:04:55.180 And if you look at Pontius Pilate, Pontius Pilate, you know, he wants to set, at some point he flips and he's like,

00:05:02.280 you know, this guy is innocent.

00:05:04.320 My wife is having dreams about this man.

00:05:06.820 That's another thing that's underreported in history.

00:05:09.380 Wife as soothsayer slash dreamer. 0.54

00:05:12.880 I mean, your wife has many times been like, I have a bad feeling about this guy, Tucker.

00:05:16.160 Don't have him on your show.

00:05:17.200 And her intuition is such that even though there's no necessarily hard evidence, you know, it's your wife's take on stuff.

00:05:24.040 You don't ignore it.

00:05:25.420 But that's.

00:05:25.900 I have ignored it.

00:05:29.100 You're like, I've actually never listened to that.

00:05:31.200 No.

00:05:31.920 I mean, I've been married 34 years as of Saturday.

00:05:34.360 And it's like a joke in my house.

00:05:36.900 You know, I told you he was bad.

00:05:38.780 I don't know.

00:05:39.620 He's hilarious.

00:05:40.540 He's like a good guy to me.

00:05:43.060 That's hilarious.

00:05:43.960 Yeah.

00:05:44.200 So you'd be the Pontius Pellet where she's like, don't arrest this man.

00:05:48.080 I had a dream.

00:05:48.900 100%.

00:05:49.220 And you're like, whatever.

00:05:50.220 I'm doing my work right now.

00:05:51.100 I'm very shallow.

00:05:52.120 So someone's, someone who's amusing or fun to have dinner with, you know, I just get swept away.

00:05:57.660 I like that guy.

00:05:58.800 You know what I mean?

00:05:59.880 You're like, Brabus was amazing on that podcast.

00:06:01.860 I got to have him on.

00:06:04.080 He's fantastic.

00:06:04.620 It's actually really funny because I'm recapping conversations that I've had with Tucker where I'm like, I don't know why you trust that person at all.

00:06:12.160 He's obviously a bad guy.

00:06:13.440 He's like, no, I like him, but I had a really nice dinner with him.

00:06:16.120 Anyways, obviously what they're accurately describing, and I should say, especially between a husband and a wife, definitely my relationship with my husband.

00:06:24.660 Even I can say that from almost the very moment that I learned that Charlie was not going to make it, I said to George through tears that he was betrayed.

00:06:33.880 And now we're all just sort of on this journey to find out by who.

00:06:38.080 So I released a text message yesterday, dropped it on the world, and it caused, and this is putting it mildly, a lot of panic.

00:06:46.540 As I said, the chatter on X was top tier.

00:06:50.560 Emphasis on the tear because there were a lot of them being shed by everyone who was discounting me.

00:06:56.880 She's this, she's that, she's lying.

00:06:58.880 Charlie never changed his mind.

00:07:00.460 He was committed to Israel to the day he died.

00:07:02.680 In fact, he almost died for Israel.

00:07:04.740 That was the vibe they were putting down, and I was getting angrier and angrier and angrier.

00:07:09.320 But self-control always pays off.

00:07:11.880 There were moments on X where people were, after this text message was revealed, almost like bargaining.

00:07:18.040 Like, please, this can't be real.

00:07:19.160 Let me show you, they're making fake messages themselves.

00:07:22.480 This is how easy it is to make a fake message.

00:07:25.460 This cannot be real.

00:07:27.480 They were accusing, deluding themselves into believing whatever was necessary for them not to accept the reality that I was telling the truth.

00:07:34.380 Of course I was telling the truth.

00:07:35.980 Here's just a few of my favorites.

00:07:38.580 This is Village crazy lady who I love, Mel, who was responding to an absurdity that was being presented by Ashton Forbes. 0.96

00:07:47.240 Mel said, these losers are down so bad right now that they are literally using their own attack lines for defense. 0.98

00:07:53.040 Ashton Forbes wrote, he's been absolutely maniacal. 0.98

00:07:56.720 First off, Candace has no credibility. 1.00

00:07:58.760 Second, there's a bunch of Telegram group chat scams that claim to be real people.

00:08:04.340 I was briefly in touch with one Elon Musk.

00:08:08.660 Oh, really?

00:08:09.180 You were in touch with Elon Musk on Telegram?

00:08:11.320 Third, if you discount the text messages between Tyler Robinson and his trans furry lover, you cannot take these at face value.

00:08:19.080 Lastly, even if the text messages were real, they mean literally nothing related to Charlie's death.

00:08:25.720 I find it scary how Candace is building a literal cult. 1.00

00:08:28.800 Soon, they'll be drinking Kool-Aid in sync with, I don't even know if that says, 31 Atlas to be sent to heaven. 0.94

00:08:36.160 I think that might be a cult, actually.

00:08:38.140 That's how I'm not, I'm not a cult at all.

00:08:40.120 So much I don't even recognize.

00:08:41.580 It's probably a very big cult's name.

00:08:42.920 And I love that Mel replies and says, bro, if I got scammed in a Telegram group chat by Elon Musk, quote unquote, I'd take that ish to my grave.

00:08:53.520 Britta, you can see she's also replying, he was replying to Britta, no soup for Knowles, if you want to bring that right back up.

00:09:00.620 She wrote, and by the way, she used to work for Seth Dillon.

00:09:03.260 So this is the usual chatter, a group of people.

00:09:05.940 She wrote, is Candace posting fake group chat screenshots to conveniently back up her narrative that Charlie was dropping the pro-Israel cause and inviting Candace to the TPUS stage?

00:09:16.940 I'm just asking questions.

00:09:18.960 All fair.

00:09:19.420 We allow questions.

00:09:20.720 We even allow diagnoses.

00:09:22.780 We're all, we're chill.

00:09:23.560 We're on the side of truth.

00:09:24.300 We are so chill. 0.94

00:09:26.080 Laura Loomer, who is legally just, you know, not allowed to own a gun because she's a literal lunatic, had the nerve to post this about, 0.97

00:09:35.940 when somebody called her out, Morgan Ariel said, Laura Loomer hasn't made a single post about Candace Owens reporting on Charlie Kirk's group messages.

00:09:42.580 We all know she's the first to run her mouth.

00:09:44.520 And she wrote, because I don't give an F about Candace Owens and her postpartum psychotic rants. 1.00

00:09:50.060 Even if those texts are real, it still does not mean that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

00:09:54.540 I never said that.

00:09:55.760 Candace Owens makes content for low IQ people who don't understand how criminal investigations work. 1.00

00:10:01.040 It's going to be hilarious when she is sued by TPUSA in addition to Macron's wife. 0.83

00:10:05.160 Yes, bankrupt her for telling the truth.

00:10:08.640 Do it.

00:10:09.660 Do it.

00:10:10.320 Bankrupt her. 0.98

00:10:11.980 Yeah.

00:10:12.900 When you are down bad, just like Mel says, when they're really down bad, nothing is left.

00:10:19.080 You just sue.

00:10:20.440 Anyways, back to how unhinged just chatter was on X, generally speaking.

00:10:25.700 I laughed out loud.

00:10:28.360 Everybody uses the term Blitzkrieg.

00:10:30.480 Even in the NFL football team say Blitzkrieg.

00:10:33.520 Yes, it relates back to Germany.

00:10:36.980 It's a bombardment strategy.

00:10:38.440 So that's why we use it when you're going to bombard.

00:10:41.200 And so I called it Blitzkrieg week because we're just dropping a bunch of bombs.

00:10:45.560 And Britta decided to take that literally.

00:10:49.380 She said, Candace thinks it's cute to use Nazi terminology and make a turning point pun while she incites further harassment of TPUSA employees by implicating them in Charlie's death. 1.00

00:11:00.920 It's a sick game for her. 0.97

00:11:02.400 And out of nowhere, Megyn Kelly needs to stop making excuses for this vile behavior. 1.00

00:11:06.520 I have no idea why Megyn Kelly is being just abused. 1.00

00:11:11.260 It's like people just get drunk and beat Megyn Kelly when they get home. 1.00

00:11:13.880 I don't know what is happening and why she's being dragged into anything that I say.

00:11:17.700 But it's exceptional that they're now looking.

00:11:20.120 They're so desperate that German words, you can't even say Blitz means lightning.

00:11:26.820 Krieg means war. 0.87

00:11:28.940 Last I checked, people are still allowed to speak German.

00:11:31.460 And last I checked, everybody uses the terminology Blitz.

00:11:35.700 Blitzkrieg.

00:11:36.880 Washington Post certainly does when they're describing things that's happening at the White House.

00:11:41.140 But now this is how desperate they are for anything.

00:11:45.760 Grasping at straws.

00:11:46.440 Nick Fuentes, our routine federal informant, wrote, writes this.

00:11:53.780 Why did she sit on this for four weeks and then censor the other names?

00:11:58.060 Just grasping at straws.

00:11:59.360 Just grasping at straws here.

00:12:00.860 And you follow that up by taking a stab at Charlie Kirk, who's dead.

00:12:04.840 Charlie Kirk said he had no choice to leave the pro-Israel cause because a Jewish donor stopped giving him millions of dollars.

00:12:09.360 What a coincidence.

00:12:10.440 He had his great epiphany about Israel after they stopped paying him to shill.

00:12:14.540 Speaking of paying people to shill, it's why I didn't take one minute or one sentence, rather, of him trying to eulogize Charlie Kirk seriously.

00:12:22.420 Because that right there is the real Nick Fuentes.

00:12:24.660 The quartering jumped in.

00:12:25.660 And he says, a serious question.

00:12:27.440 Let's assume the texts are real and that Charlie was 100% serious and not just being sarcastic, which is totally possible.

00:12:34.980 What exactly does this prove?

00:12:36.580 Think before you reply.

00:12:37.800 What does it prove other than someone close to him was fine leaking his texts?

00:12:42.600 That's been their new talking point.

00:12:44.380 How dare you leak text messages?

00:12:46.680 And finally, this is just funny, so we're going to show you this.

00:12:50.660 Community notes for the win.

00:12:52.600 The Misfit Patriot writes, I will give Candace every single shekel.

00:12:56.020 Israel has paid me for my posts if she can prove those text messages are real.

00:13:00.420 Update, says Community Notes.

00:13:02.360 Andrew Colvett confirmed the screen grab was real.

00:13:05.740 Of course it was real. 0.99

00:13:07.600 I mean, I would have to be the dumbest person ever. 0.99

00:13:11.080 First off, I'm not even inclined towards tech, but also would have to be an absolute idiot, a moron, to try to figure out how to manufacture text messages for the purpose of releasing them to then probably get sued by every person that was not in the chat. 1.00

00:13:26.200 Like, I'm just like, hey, Josh Hammer received this message. 0.99

00:13:28.420 That'd be so dumb. 0.75

00:13:30.140 But like I said, these people were desperate for it not to be real because they've been lying so hard about everything. 0.99

00:13:35.940 They've just been lying and they have some egg on their face now.

00:13:39.000 And reality hit them pretty quickly.

00:13:40.500 This morning, when Andrew Colvett, Turning Point's spokesperson, confirmed that the messages were in fact real.

00:13:47.700 He did this on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:13:50.360 And actually, I don't think it's dramatic to state that this may be the first respectable measure taken by Turning Point USA executives since the passing of Charlie Kirk.

00:14:01.020 Like the first respectable response.

00:14:04.040 And yeah, I thought that that was I will I will compliment that.

00:14:07.460 Just the action of Andrew Colvett addressing it head on instantly was good.

00:14:13.060 So let's hear Andrew Colvett in his own words.

00:14:15.820 But I want to take the start of this show to address some of the things that have been going around on public, namely about a text, a group text chain that has been made known and released by Candace Owens.

00:14:29.680 And I just want to address it head on because, you know, that was a text grab, a screen grab that I had shared with people.

00:14:38.660 So it is authentic.

00:14:40.180 And I want to go into it because I actually am really excited that the truth is out there.

00:14:44.980 I first want to say the reason I have I didn't share that screen grab publicly is because it was a private it was a private exchange.

00:14:52.780 And I felt like it didn't necessarily comport with things that were already public.

00:14:57.980 I wanted to not betray my friends trust in that way.

00:15:00.860 But I did share it with some people in government because it happened really quick.

00:15:05.980 It was, you know, it took 33 hours for authorities to get their suspect.

00:15:10.400 And in that first in those first moments, we wanted no stone unturned.

00:15:14.860 We wanted to leave nothing unturned.

00:15:16.700 So I shared it with a few people.

00:15:19.320 Don't know where it went from there, apparently.

00:15:22.120 But here we are.

00:15:23.680 So one of the reasons, Blake, that I'm glad to have this now public, it was not mine to share publicly.

00:15:31.480 But, you know, one of the criticisms we've been we've received is that we don't care.

00:15:36.040 We're not investigating every lead.

00:15:37.400 We're not looking under every stone and that somehow we're just like, you know, sweeping things under the rug.

00:15:43.640 And when I say that we want justice for Charlie more than anybody else, I really mean it.

00:15:49.180 And no stone unturned.

00:15:50.960 I mean, I don't know if you want to chime in on that part alone, but I have more to say.

00:15:54.240 Yeah.

00:15:54.460 So it's it has been so frustrating to have people blow up about this.

00:15:59.260 And we've stated I've certainly stated publicly.

00:16:01.560 The reason I haven't weighed in on things is I am an eyewitness to events.

00:16:05.100 And they've said, don't comment on things because anything you say can mess that up.

00:16:09.700 I don't want to mess up any trial for the person who did this.

00:16:13.060 That's a thousand percent right.

00:16:14.520 And I will say I wasn't an eyewitness.

00:16:16.900 I was not there.

00:16:17.660 I flew to Utah immediately to be with the family and the team.

00:16:23.480 But I was not an eyewitness.

00:16:24.920 So there's that.

00:16:25.840 But I am aware that in my role as spokesman for Turning Point USA, which is another hat I wear, the things I say, I'm cognizant of the fact that things I say could negatively impact an ongoing investigation.

00:16:36.900 All right.

00:16:37.080 But I will weigh in specifically on this this issue of Israel, because I know there's a lot of fascination.

00:16:43.900 And I just want to say that, you know, we have to let free speech be our North Star here.

00:16:53.300 OK, Charlie was adamantly free speech.

00:16:55.780 And I am not personally going to impugn anybody's character who is asking questions and looking for answers.

00:17:01.700 All right.

00:17:02.380 And I will say that that text chain is consistent with public frustrations that he voiced many times.

00:17:10.180 And I know, Blake, you were in the trenches on a lot of this stuff because we were workshopping how we were going to do the tour and what we were going to get asked about Israel, what he's going to say.

00:17:19.280 And this is consistent with things that he told his friends, people that are, you know, in the wider movement about his wrestle that he was going.

00:17:29.080 And so I just want to say, like, what is the truth about the way Charlie felt about Israel?

00:17:33.020 Well, it's complicated and it's nuanced.

00:17:35.000 And it was a wrestle that was going on for months.

00:17:37.820 And it's probably somewhere between the BB letter and the text.

00:17:45.300 So what do we think?

00:17:46.640 OK, obviously, you can tell he's anxious.

00:17:49.540 You can tell he's nervous speaking about this.

00:17:52.300 I am sure it was positively frantic at Turning Point USA yesterday.

00:17:55.600 I am sure he had very little sleep and, like I say, never the fun thing to be the spokesperson and also to be involved in the story.

00:18:02.820 I can tell you right off the bat, he is telling the truth.

00:18:05.620 He was not the person who shared that message with me.

00:18:08.400 He also should know that he was not the only person who sent that message and sent messages around.

00:18:14.040 So there are a lot circulating, some videos that are circulating.

00:18:17.640 And, yeah, he's being honest about that portion.

00:18:20.100 And I personally, as someone who knows Andrew Colby, I want to I want to express how I feel.

00:18:26.380 I hold it against him, actually, that he didn't share it with me.

00:18:30.540 He knew I've cried on the phone with Andrew.

00:18:32.560 He knew how I was feeling.

00:18:33.420 And then I went under a very, well, you could say a blitzkrieg, right, a heavy bombardment from people who he knows hated Charlie, who tried to stop Charlie, people who had no issues showing up to his memorial.

00:18:50.320 I mean, really gross stuff who were attacking me.

00:18:53.420 And he could have at least provided some cover.

00:18:56.140 Now, I'm not saying that I need help, but sometimes it's nice to offer somebody a lifeboat when they're being attacked for telling the truth.

00:19:03.420 Right.

00:19:04.260 So I do want to say that.

00:19:05.480 Also, I'm glad that Andrew responded correctly because I was I was going to say this when Blake's like, well, you know, the investigation is ongoing.

00:19:11.100 That text message has nothing to do with an investigation whatsoever.

00:19:14.400 It has to do with the broader question of people feeling that Charlie's legacy is intentionally being hijacked by Israel. 0.51

00:19:22.240 I never stated that Israel killed Charlie.

00:19:24.940 Anybody that has been watching this investigative series, we've come up.

00:19:28.000 I mean, there hasn't even been an Israeli name that's popped up in this investigation.

00:19:31.140 There's only been one Jewish person, I think, that's popped up thus far in this investigation, which is George Zinn, decoy boy.

00:19:36.380 So they're just saying that they're just saying that.

00:19:39.080 I just wanted to say that he was under a tremendous amount of pressure.

00:19:43.780 Now, regarding the other things that are circulating that have not been publicized yet, and people should know that there is an underground movement of truth tellers in this moment.

00:19:57.260 OK, there is an underground movement of knights all around the world, from mom sleuths to government employees, like he said, to personal assistants to Turning Point USA donors who are working together to bring justice to Charlie because we don't like the way this feels.

00:20:13.580 We just like the way it feels.

00:20:14.660 The vibes are off.

00:20:15.500 I will respect, even though obviously that statement was prepared, I will respect the fact that Andrew says what Charlie would have said.

00:20:23.420 And for the first time, I feel that's been expressed that we have to let free speech be our North Star.

00:20:29.880 And I'm not so sure that the people, some of the people that are donating to Turning Point USA believe that.

00:20:36.180 In fact, I'm certain some of them don't believe that.

00:20:38.180 Obviously, we wouldn't have that text message if they all believed that.

00:20:41.220 And that is what I think is has been so frustrating, is that it seems as though the executives would rather, and I'm now referring to Tyler Boyer, impugn the character of the people who are doing exactly what Charlie Kirk would have done.

00:20:56.920 So please, Andrew, make sure that Tyler Boyer and Alex Clark get the internal memo about free speech.

00:21:04.860 I want to say one more thing rather explosively.

00:21:07.380 Charlie, three people told me off record, two people who have this in a written communication from Charlie, one who is a Turning Point USA donor, and I would say very much one of the white knights in this.

00:21:24.260 The very day before Charlie Kirk died, he expressed that he thought he was going to be killed.

00:21:30.660 He told these people, I think they're going to kill me, okay?

00:21:35.320 He did not express that to me.

00:21:36.880 So I am telling you this based off the testimony of three people.

00:21:40.100 And I am saying this because I hope that these people, who I think are good, will be inspired to come forward with that.

00:21:46.900 Again, those conversations I had were off record.

00:21:49.080 I honor that.

00:21:49.840 If I say it's off record, it stays off record.

00:21:51.440 But I'm hoping that watching what I am doing and feeling the energy that is rising across the world for people who want to know what the heck happened on 9-10, that, you know, they will be brave and they will say, yeah, Charlie did the day before he died think that he was going to be killed.

00:22:08.940 And maybe tell us, who is they?

00:22:11.400 Well, for once and for all, who is they?

00:22:13.380 Who is the they that he thought were going to kill him?

00:22:15.400 Now, to answer, to give the obvious answer to federal informant Nick Fuentes' question, the reason that I waited to reveal the text messages is because I'm not a child, okay?

00:22:25.320 Like I said, I have a lot more. 0.99

00:22:27.080 I'm an idiot. 1.00

00:22:28.300 And I have self-control. 1.00

00:22:29.820 And I understand that time is always going to be on the side of truth.

00:22:34.520 Time is on the side of truth.

00:22:36.800 Liars know that that's the reality.

00:22:40.700 Liars know that they have to speak quickly, that they have to speak repeatedly.

00:22:43.920 And I wanted the world to truly understand just exactly what it is that we are up against, okay? 0.69

00:22:50.820 People that I deem to be mentally and spiritually evil, okay?

00:22:56.340 Evil in the true essence of the word evil.

00:22:59.040 People who knowingly lied, instantly lied, repeatedly lied, and continued to do so without a trace of shame, okay?

00:23:08.660 Without a trace of shame.

00:23:09.760 I mean that, right?

00:23:11.660 I really do mean it when I say that you have to be someone that is or maybe rather someone that is possessed by something that is less than human, subhuman to do that. 0.80

00:23:25.900 There's no humanity in you.

00:23:27.540 That is why I named Josh Hammer.

00:23:30.560 I believe he is a deeply disturbed man.

00:23:33.220 Think about that.

00:23:34.660 Now that you have those messages, okay?

00:23:36.980 Let's put this in the context.

00:23:38.300 Just a few hours before I dropped that text chain, Josh Hammer, you know, was concerning himself with what he's been doing since Charlie caught the bullet in his neck.

00:23:46.920 He has been spreading lies, saying that Charlie never flinched on Israel, right?

00:23:51.820 Charlie never flinched.

00:23:52.680 Oh, my God.

00:23:53.300 These people like Gettis, they're lying. 0.95

00:23:54.800 48 hours before Josh Hammer was on that text thread, and that did not stop him from keeping up the propagandist effort when he went on a show yesterday before I dropped the messages and said this.

00:24:10.500 Charlie was a close friend of mine, as you know.

00:24:13.860 We actually spoke literally the night before his tragic and untimely death.

00:24:17.980 I was on a small Zoom call with him and a couple others.

00:24:20.420 We were literally talking through this topic.

00:24:22.640 I was giving Charlie advice for how to message on this issue on his forthcoming campus tour.

00:24:27.540 You know, he kind of jokingly mentioned to me, he was like, Josh, I'm going to mention your book, Israel and Civilization, and it's so good.

00:24:32.640 And that was literally our last conversation.

00:24:34.080 It's just so tragic.

00:24:35.160 This letter that he wrote to the prime minister, Chris, I read back in June or July or so, and there were so many people in the aftermath of his horrific assassination,

00:24:45.340 Candace Owens, folks like that, who were saying that, oh, Charlie was turning on Israel.

00:24:50.040 He was ready to sell them out and renounce his life's work of sincere and genuine friendship with the Jewish people and the Jewish state. 0.90

00:24:56.940 But this letter that he wrote to Bibi Netanyahu, Chris, literally begins.

00:25:00.840 The first sentence of the letter is, I'm paraphrasing here, but it's a close paraphrase.

00:25:04.440 As a Christian, one of my greatest joys in life is making friendships with the Jewish people and defending the state of Israel.

00:25:11.080 That's literally the opening sentence of this letter.

00:25:16.280 Filth.

00:25:17.860 Okay. 0.69

00:25:19.660 Absolute filth.

00:25:21.240 I don't understand it.

00:25:22.220 I can't comprehend it.

00:25:23.300 Whatever that is that lives in him does not live in me.

00:25:26.620 There is no truth in him.

00:25:27.780 Obviously, there is no truth in Josh Hammer.

00:25:30.480 He could have said, oh, Charlie was going through 48 hours earlier.

00:25:33.080 Yeah, he refused to do that.

00:25:35.640 In fact, I'm quite alarmed with what I know that there are three people who said that Charlie communicated 24 hours before he died that he thought they were going to kill him.

00:25:46.220 Now I find it rather alarming that Josh Hammer is similarly saying, oh, the night before.

00:25:50.280 So you spoke to him the night before.

00:25:52.000 Did he communicate that to you, Josh Hammer?

00:25:54.600 Did he?

00:25:55.140 I'm interested.

00:25:57.700 I know we won't get answers from you, but let me promise you that if I get a text message to the effect that you were somehow involved in him feeling anxiety the day before, if you did something that gave him anxiety in that way, I will release it instantly.

00:26:14.700 There will be no place that you can hide.

00:26:15.760 Anyways, I want you guys to know that I was feeling so inspired by Josh Hammer's utter lack of human decency that I went ahead this week and sent around a life insurance policy of sorts, of sorts, a package rather, to people that I trust.

00:26:33.960 A package filled with text messages, emails, private communications, videos, and private legal documents.

00:26:41.640 So if anything happens to me, you guys will know exactly who it is that has been making my life a living hell over the past couple of years.

00:26:49.720 People that are trying to bankrupt me, trying to bankrupt me and my family, that are threatening us, to sue us.

00:26:54.640 Everything that Kanye said was so real, okay?

00:26:58.800 I'm now at that point where you look back and you go, man, Kanye was right.

00:27:01.860 He was really saying something about what it takes to leave, you know, to fight for custody of your own soul.

00:27:09.580 Just leave me alone.

00:27:10.520 Let me say what I believe and you say what you believe.

00:27:12.420 Fight fair.

00:27:13.980 Why do you always have to make this threat to bankrupt people?

00:27:17.080 And I want you to know that those people, if anything happens to me, they have my explicit permission to release it all, detonate it all, expose all of these people in politics and in the movement who behave like this behind the scenes.

00:27:29.640 It's necessary.

00:27:30.420 And I highly recommend every single person that is out there, that has a platform and is going through things and is scared, do the same.

00:27:37.920 Send everything around to about eight people that you trust.

00:27:41.640 And I mean, I've ranged it.

00:27:43.080 I sent it to journalists, text messages and screenshots to people ranging from Max Blumenthal to Andrew Tate.

00:27:49.980 They won't know where it's coming from.

00:27:51.780 It will be everywhere.

00:27:52.500 I want to remind you guys in the wake of all of this, that it is so important to keep trusting our guts.

00:28:03.440 We have been proven right so many times in the recent past, right?

00:28:08.000 Whether we're speaking about COVID, people that had to actually take a stance before people were then suddenly government, oh, admits, oh, yeah, we were lying.

00:28:15.420 We were lying about this, we were lying about that.

00:28:17.320 We feel it all right now.

00:28:18.540 The feds are lying.

00:28:19.860 That is beyond obvious, which is why I was very happy to hear former Navy SEAL Rob O'Neill explain this plainly when he went on Piers Morgan's show the other day.

00:28:31.760 Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

00:28:34.200 Me, I mean, it was off it right from the beginning for me, from do we not guard rooftops anymore?

00:28:41.580 There's been assassinations, assassination attempts all over the world.

00:28:44.080 Why aren't we looking at rooftops?

00:28:45.840 And then when I was sent the video at the same message where they said Charlie Kirk was just shot.

00:28:52.740 When I watched that horrific video, he was obviously dead before he hit the ground.

00:28:56.280 But the questions immediately started to come to me.

00:28:58.940 That was not an entry ruin that we saw.

00:29:00.740 We saw an exit wound.

00:29:01.940 So where'd that bullet come from?

00:29:02.940 You don't bleed light.

00:29:03.560 And I've shot guys closer than the camera was.

00:29:07.160 And an entry wound doesn't look like that.

00:29:08.960 An exit wound does.

00:29:09.980 Why did his shirt move the way it did?

00:29:11.540 When I've shot people, their shirts didn't move like that.

00:29:14.340 And then the initial reaction was, well, he was obviously wearing body armor and it was deflection.

00:29:18.360 One, no.

00:29:19.820 He wasn't wearing body armor.

00:29:21.120 And two, it doesn't deflect like that off of body armor.

00:29:23.680 Why was his shirt moving from right to left?

00:29:25.780 Why were people being interviewed saying, yeah, they came from my left to right, from his right to left, immediately shut down?

00:29:32.680 And then did they tear the crime scene down immediately?

00:29:34.760 Just right off the bat from seeing it, knowing he was dead, saying a lot of this is bad, not even getting into the the soliloquy of text messages that 22 year olds don't send their trans lover.

00:29:45.060 So immediately it's just the official story sounds like it needs to be investigated.

00:29:50.500 But now, you know, the whole crime scene is gone.

00:29:52.100 They paved over it.

00:29:53.160 Nothing to see here.

00:29:55.340 You just have to laugh.

00:29:56.540 The soliloquy of the text messages that 22 year olds do not send their lovers.

00:30:01.900 Yes, that's kind of the main point, guys.

00:30:03.800 We have been working off a lot of tips and so much more is going to be exposed.

00:30:08.060 And we're going to get into that more tomorrow.

00:30:09.880 I do want to give you a quick update on Lance Twiggs.

00:30:13.500 And like I said, we know that the feds are lying to us.

00:30:16.720 The question is, why are the feds lying to us?

00:30:19.660 The answer is always the same.

00:30:21.960 The feds only lie to cover their own tracks.

00:30:25.060 They are protecting themselves and their bosses.

00:30:27.740 Who are their bosses?

00:30:29.340 Who is they?

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00:34:37.160 Let me tell you guys something very interesting about this investigation,

00:34:40.320 investigation of Charlie Kirk's murder.

00:34:44.340 We don't feel, I don't think the majority of people in the world feel that we know what happened,

00:34:49.880 and I want you guys to know that we have not for a single second ceased our investigation, right?

00:34:55.100 What actually happened on 9-10, we don't know,

00:34:59.200 and we are still working through a ton of the tips related to what happened.

00:35:06.760 But I want to tell you that I maintain,

00:35:11.340 I actually believe that this was a military hit that involved foreign actors and also literal actors.

00:35:19.680 I believe that that day ran something akin to JFK's assassination.

00:35:26.180 I believe that there were therefore multiple decoys on the ground.

00:35:30.700 I do not believe, just so I'm clear here,

00:35:34.000 that the person who was walking up the stairs killed Charlie.

00:35:37.180 In fact, my suspicion is that that photo was not even shot on the same day.

00:35:41.380 I do not believe that the person who ran across Losey rooftop killed Charlie.

00:35:47.780 I think that was another decoy.

00:35:48.540 I do not believe that shot came from a Losey center at all.

00:35:52.160 And I obviously, we all know that decoy George Zinn didn't kill Charlie.

00:35:57.180 And I received an interesting tip about him as well,

00:36:01.520 that he's much more connected than what meets the surface.

00:36:04.260 He potentially has connections to the federal department,

00:36:07.860 familial connections to the federal department,

00:36:09.720 and we are prodding that.

00:36:10.660 It's getting interesting.

00:36:12.460 Anyway, that would suggest that there are thus for a total of four decoys,

00:36:17.100 like George Zinn, staircase guy, maroon shirt guy, and Losey center guy,

00:36:22.960 none of which I believe actually pulled the trigger.

00:36:25.280 Call it a hunch.

00:36:26.540 I think it's much more likely that Lance Twiggs is the one that is walking in that maroon shirt.

00:36:32.160 His build is nothing like Tyler Robinson's build.

00:36:36.300 Lance Twiggs is thinner.

00:36:37.220 And obviously, I'm speculating here, but I believe Tyler Robinson was involved,

00:36:42.760 and he was, in fact, driving around campus on that day,

00:36:46.220 therefore assisting in the costume changes, likely picking up clothing.

00:36:51.760 And as we broke the story, Tyler was seen at Dairy Queen.

00:36:56.900 And what was he seen doing, as I told you?

00:36:59.220 Dumping clothing in the cemetery beside that Dairy Queen.

00:37:03.660 So I think that is what his involvement is limited to.

00:37:07.240 That was his job, to get rid of clothing.

00:37:10.800 It's completely nonsense to think that a person who had never killed anyone

00:37:14.980 was high on adrenaline after a kill and decided to eat Dairy Queen.

00:37:19.700 That doesn't even make sense biologically speaking.

00:37:22.380 There was going to be an adrenaline measure that kicks in after you kill an animal,

00:37:28.880 let alone a person, let alone having it be your first kill.

00:37:32.860 And you're like, he just decided to go to DQ, sit down, write some poetic text messages.

00:37:37.960 It's why they are freaking out about that Dairy Queen leak,

00:37:40.880 because it disrupts their narrative.

00:37:42.700 One of many things that disrupts their narrative.

00:37:45.560 But what about Lance Twiggs, right?

00:37:47.700 This roommate, man, something about him.

00:37:51.540 The roommate of Tyler Robinson is, I think, federally protected.

00:37:57.200 I especially think that because we learned some more interesting facts about him.

00:38:02.080 So I feel confident, or I shouldn't say completely confident,

00:38:05.320 but I feel like it's okay to venture a guess that he is a federal asset of some description.

00:38:10.580 Could be related to his online work on Discord chats.

00:38:14.200 It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

00:38:15.520 Anyways, I can tell you guys, I can break this for you,

00:38:20.040 that the government, and this would implicate Governor Cox and whoever else was a part of

00:38:24.920 that press conference the morning after, the 33 hours after they apprehended Tyler Robinson,

00:38:30.800 the government lied when they said,

00:38:33.420 Lance, you know, I'm obviously paraphrasing here,

00:38:36.740 he came in peacefully, he handed over everything.

00:38:39.540 I mean, the whole depiction was like he was just so shocked that his boyfriend could do something like this.

00:38:45.660 And so he handed over everything.

00:38:48.960 Well, according to his family, that's just not true.

00:38:51.320 According to his family, he was raided, and he was angry about that raid.

00:38:56.040 And yet, he was instantly released back into their care within six hours.

00:39:03.100 Isn't that something?

00:39:04.340 They had no idea what was happening.

00:39:06.000 They were going off of Mike, the mysterious detective, Mike Mitchell's tip.

00:39:10.160 They had no confession.

00:39:12.420 They have Tyler Robinson walking in peacefully because he doesn't want to die.

00:39:17.380 And you're telling me Lance Twiggs, for whatever reason, you released him immediately back into custody?

00:39:24.660 No, they lied.

00:39:25.460 He was not being compliant and walking in and showing them everything.

00:39:29.360 Something else that was interesting, we had told you guys that Tyler's family thought that there could have been something weird going on with that raid,

00:39:39.480 that perhaps the feds could have been staging that apartment to fit into their narrative.

00:39:44.980 Now, the feds are staging this entire operation, so that would follow.

00:39:49.220 And if you're trying to get a conviction, you've got to be like, and we found this in his house, the note underneath the keyboard.

00:39:56.260 So convenient.

00:39:57.440 But he destroyed it.

00:39:58.140 He took a picture of it, but then he destroyed it.

00:40:00.280 Everybody knows if you want to destroy something so it never sees the light of day, he took a picture of it so it lives forever in the iCloud.

00:40:05.540 Anyways, we were told by Lance's family that, who, by the way, own the apartment that the two of them lived in, that Tyler and Lance lived in,

00:40:16.920 we were told that somebody illegally changed their locks on the home following the raid.

00:40:23.600 Obviously illegal.

00:40:24.520 They were not informed that the locks were being changed, so it gives us two options.

00:40:28.060 It was either Lance or it was the feds.

00:40:31.880 I was wondering, like, you know, if you're Lance and you really got swept up in this and you're so shocked that Tyler Robinson did this,

00:40:41.080 are you speaking to your family about that?

00:40:42.840 My gosh, I imagine you'd want to speak to your family.

00:40:45.060 No.

00:40:45.900 No, it seems Lance has similarly been in an unknown location since the raid.

00:40:51.600 I would imagine he was in witness protection for a bit, but he doesn't need family.

00:40:55.780 He feels, I would say, that suggests that he's pretty arrogant right now in this moment.

00:41:00.940 He's not fearful of anything.

00:41:03.360 Like I said, the sense I am getting is we are watching a play, right?

00:41:08.940 The government has us completely distracted with photos of people who are not even the same person.

00:41:13.320 I never for a second thought the person that was in the maroon shirt was the same as the person that was walking with the limp. 0.99

00:41:20.080 It's completely foolish and ridiculous. 0.99

00:41:22.140 I can also tell you something else. 0.99

00:41:25.240 We received a tip, which I vetted, that on the day of Charles Kirk's assassination, you know, immediately George Zinn gets up and says,

00:41:34.480 I did it, I did it, I did it.

00:41:35.440 And he kind of gets dragged.

00:41:36.280 Well, apparently George Zinn had to receive medical treatment following that, little frock us.

00:41:42.920 And he told multiple nurses and doctors that he did it because he was being paid to do it.

00:41:52.540 He said he had not been paid yet, but he was going to receive payment.

00:41:57.680 He didn't know from who.

00:41:59.620 So, that's interesting.

00:42:04.700 Decoy Boy told medical staff, multiple, apparently he was just singing, just like, just telling everybody who would listen that he did it because payment was going to be promised to him if he did do it.

00:42:17.940 What does that tell us?

00:42:19.340 We should definitely dig into George Zinn.

00:42:21.360 We should definitely try to confirm this relatively strong tip that he has connections to the feds.

00:42:27.780 Because it would be very interesting if the feds were going to pay George Zinn.

00:42:31.340 I'm not saying they are, but, yeah, why wouldn't he know?

00:42:36.120 I mean, make that make sense.

00:42:37.720 Why wouldn't George Zinn know where the payment was coming from?

00:42:41.520 Yeah.

00:42:42.440 Anyways, you guys, we are on the case.

00:42:44.280 I wanted to share that with you.

00:42:45.880 Some other explosive things that we have found out that the feds have not shared.

00:42:49.220 Other people that they were questioning that they did not share.

00:42:53.000 People that similarly have been told to be quiet about everything.

00:42:56.320 And let's be clear, they are not asking everyone to be silent because they are seeking a conviction against Tyler Robinson.

00:43:04.680 They are telling everybody to be silent because they don't want to get caught.

00:43:09.820 The feds are covering their own tracks.

00:43:12.020 All right, guys, I want to pivot here and I want to read you something.

00:43:17.020 Oh, now, I want to be perfectly clear that despite all appearances over the last two weeks, it has been a very difficult time for me.

00:43:27.380 Obviously, normally when I'm covering a story, I'm bombastic and I feel brave and focused because I am speaking about someone that has nothing to do with me.

00:43:36.740 This has been particularly challenging because I had and I still am very much grieving Charlie and waking up to the realization that not everyone is grieving him in the same way, that he may have just been a political pawn to so many people that he loved deeply.

00:43:53.860 I mean, I'm going to be honest, even Donald Trump's non-reaction, not making any demands for truth regarding this investigation, deeply upsets me, deeply upsets me because I know how much Charlie Kirk loved Donald Trump.

00:44:07.700 So I was just so I was happy, brought literal tears to my eyes when a donor from Turning Point USA, donor that actually then unlocked a whole other level of donations for Charlie Kirk through introductions that he made for Charlie and a donor who it's it's ironically, this is the very donor that when I said to Charlie, we need to be in the UK, we need to be in the UK.

00:44:33.860 And he was like, well, I know somebody who I could maybe have set up an event.

00:44:37.220 We can start Turning Point UK.

00:44:38.700 And that event was when I first laid eyes on George, not when I spoke to him, but when I actually first laid eyes on him, that donor issued a public statement.

00:44:46.980 And I think he will be the first of many donors that might make a public statement.

00:44:52.620 And he made this statement in my favor.

00:44:55.040 This was written by him and his wife, two wonderful people, John and Irina Mappin.

00:45:00.400 And I'm just going to read it because I think these words don't just eloquently express how I'm feeling, but I think these words eloquently might express how we are all feeling worldwide.

00:45:11.560 Like I read this and I said to myself, I couldn't have written this better myself with all the time in the world.

00:45:18.080 John and Irina write,

00:45:48.080 And although that job was supremely important for the country and its future, it was still ultimately simply helping to secure a job promotion.

00:46:05.860 Candace is working to get to the truth of who killed Charlie Kirk and why they did it. 0.52

00:46:08.820 Charlie's execution is an assassination with potentially far-reaching political consequences for America and the world.

00:46:16.300 What we have seen so far beggars belief.

00:46:19.080 A crime scene apparently completely destroyed in days and plenty of evidence that simply does not add up.

00:46:25.000 This investigation and the truthful answer as to who was really responsible for deciding that Charlie would be executed in front of the world will affect America's future, its collective soul and conscience forever.

00:46:36.340 However, the truth, when known, and we believe it will be known, will have far-reaching international consequences.

00:46:43.920 The very idea that someone could be convicted and could receive the death penalty when there remains even the slightest shadow of doubt or shred of uncertainty that they may not be guilty of that crime,

00:46:53.960 If there were circumstances where a suspect or someone standing trial for murder did not have a clean opportunity to receive the very best and fairest legal representation to present their case and defense to the world,

00:47:11.380 It would have been abhorrent to Charlie Kirk.

00:47:14.000 It would go against every constitutional principle that he lived, fought, and died for.

00:47:19.000 Erica is in mourning. May God bless her and her family. Please give her and her family time to grieve.

00:47:23.800 Any civilized culture, Christian or otherwise, allows a grieving widow 40 days of mourning to make peace with the Lord and to respect the departed.

00:47:30.360 Those people who truly love her would gladly grant her all the space she needs. We certainly do.

00:47:36.360 But we are growing rather sick and ashamed of seeing people criticize Candace for doing her level best to get to the bottom of and to the truth of what happened to Charlie on that day.

00:47:45.640 You don't have to agree with Candace on every subject that she addresses on her shows to acknowledge that much of what she is presenting on the subject of Charlie's death is extremely concerning to America and to the world,

00:47:55.140 completely valid and very relevant to the investigation. She has an army of truth seekers worldwide who are helping her in her search and her research.

00:48:03.260 This is a truly new and modern phenomenon that has never happened before. This is not 1963 and boomers need to get used to it. 0.62

00:48:11.320 In our view, the official investigation should be immediately ordered by the appropriate legal authority to proactively share everything they know with Candace and her selected team.

00:48:19.460 That is, if truth and real understanding of who decided to assassinate Charlie and why is the sincere objective, that would go some way towards restoring public trust in the system.

00:48:30.480 It is our view that her actions are not just the actions that any real friend would take for their friend.

00:48:35.580 They are the actions of the highest order of patriotism.

00:48:39.000 Candace's actions are service to the whole country and to the world. Beyond that, they are truly providential, divinely inspired, and metaphysical.

00:48:45.260 There is a relationship between truth and all living things.

00:48:50.820 There is a relationship between truth and God.

00:48:54.580 Right now, Turning Point USA is at a vital moment.

00:48:59.220 If we continue to witness the mistreatment and the suppression of a young woman and a mother of four young children who is doing everything she can to help get to the truth about who decided that her friend and fellow freedom fighter Charlie had to die,

00:49:11.080 they will lose the country and the world.

00:49:12.780 And America will have lost one of its greatest living patriots only to see those factors against which he fought and died for a win.

00:49:20.140 Candace's extremely valid point that hers has so far been one of the only public voices from Charlie's closest friends questioning the absurdity of some of the communications regarding what happened and demanding clarity is well made.

00:49:33.080 And frankly, that point alone is shocking to the world.

00:49:37.000 We have been receiving calls from senior Republicans and from Turning Point donors who agree with her all last week and they started up again this week.

00:49:44.340 They agree with Candace, but seeing the attacks that she is experiencing, they are terrified to voice their views publicly.

00:49:51.000 Is that really where we are in 2025?

00:49:52.760 Few people following the matter believe the official version, the virgin, version.

00:49:58.940 A low minority believe that the current suspect is guilty.

00:50:02.160 That statistic alone is an awful commentary on the state of the official investigation.

00:50:07.460 The world wants truth.

00:50:09.280 The world, Charlie, and those who truly loved him and knew his purposes certainly deserve justice.

00:50:13.260 But justice needs not just to be done.

00:50:17.180 It needs to be seen to be done justly.

00:50:19.920 I'm going to read that sentence again because it's very powerful.

00:50:21.520 Justice needs not just to be done.

00:50:25.540 It needs to be seen to be done justly.

00:50:29.320 It must be truthful.

00:50:30.440 It must be fair.

00:50:31.020 And it must be clean.

00:50:32.580 If there are videos, show them.

00:50:34.160 If there is evidence, show it.

00:50:35.880 The world is not going to accept anything less.

00:50:38.580 This is not about who is right or wrong or whose theory is correct.

00:50:42.320 Candace's investigation is about actually getting to the truth, whatever that truth is.

00:50:46.180 If the current theory for the shooter is truth, then okay.

00:50:48.800 If that is a lie, then we need to know.

00:50:49.960 So every episode of Candace's show since Charlie died, from her heartfelt emotional tribute to her exceptional journalism, has been incredible.

00:50:56.940 And anyone who cares for the truth and who wants to know who killed Charlie for real should watch every episode in its sequence.

00:51:02.020 The fact is that we are being told as his friends or simply as people who had never heard of Charlie Kirk before his assassination simply does not make sense to the vast majority.

00:51:12.840 It feels like gaslighting.

00:51:14.100 It feels like we are being lied to.

00:51:15.640 It is not hard to tell the truth to the public or to present the clear facts that illustrate the truth clearly.

00:51:19.640 Many extremely ethical people helped to build Turning Point in all associated groups, Turning Point Action and Turning Point Faith.

00:51:27.720 Many of these people are existing and potential future donors.

00:51:30.740 We know many of them.

00:51:32.620 Ethical people will not stand for lies or injustice, either privately or publicly.

00:51:36.540 The existing and future donors who were friends of Charlie's and those he loved deserve no less.

00:51:41.600 But please spare us the absurd and evil suppression of suggesting that Candace should not be doing exactly what she is doing.

00:51:49.520 She is doing no more and no less than what her friend Charlie would have done for her.

00:51:52.860 Her actions are far more reasonable and experienceable and an assassin's bullet to the throat.

00:51:58.580 Consider for a moment the evil of possibly allowing the conviction of a potentially innocent party with a death penalty.

00:52:04.600 We can only begin to imagine the wrath of God and how upset Charlie will be if an innocent man were to be executed for his assassination

00:52:12.660 and what ill fortune would befall a Christian country and the individuals that would allow this. 0.94

00:52:20.320 In this sense, Christianity and a leading Christian democracy are now on trial.

00:52:27.620 There is a special place in eternity reserved for those who would allow such an injustice.

00:52:31.680 If Turning Point and Charlie left in charge?

00:52:35.580 If Turning Point and those who Charlie left in charge failed to stay true to the principles and purposes on which Charlie founded it

00:52:41.560 and with which he and Candace originally breathed life into it during its formative years,

00:52:46.740 then Turning Point will end up like MySpace.

00:52:49.140 It will become just one more ineffective and rather dull has-been activity.

00:52:53.620 I believe that God has other plans for Charlie and for his legacy.

00:52:57.260 A cover-up of the truth is not, in my view, part of God's plans.

00:53:00.280 I believe that people of goodwill from all over the world will ensure that.

00:53:05.820 Keep going, Candace. Charlie is walking with you every step of the way.

00:53:08.560 He loves you deeply and you are right about your friendship with him.

00:53:11.380 Never at any time, through all the challenges that the political arena and life brought,

00:53:15.860 did he ever withdraw his friendship from you, Candace?

00:53:17.660 You are an eternal cornerstone in his life and his legacy.

00:53:20.960 What a great friend you are being to him.

00:53:22.920 We are all witness to that. All of our love, John and Irina.

00:53:25.580 Oh, it's going to make me cry again.

00:53:26.720 It's just like, I really needed it. I don't know.

00:53:28.240 I just really needed it.

00:53:30.660 I feel like I kind of went through a process where I was going in those two weeks following.

00:53:36.920 Was any of it real?

00:53:39.000 When I expressed to you that I felt that Charlie's life was like the Truman Show.

00:53:45.420 And then I know that's how you guys felt because we were just expecting a fight.

00:53:50.380 We were just expecting a fight.

00:53:52.720 And instead, it seems like the very things that Charlie was fighting, lies, no matter what they were,

00:54:01.180 somehow were being platformed and allowed.

00:54:03.700 So thank you, John. Thank you, Irina.

00:54:05.800 I cried last night reading that. I almost cried on air there reading it again.

00:54:08.760 I needed it.

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00:54:18.540 I'm really excited about everything.

00:54:19.920 And also, I want to add to this, thank you guys.

00:54:22.040 Not just John and Irina for being the first donors that took a public stance.

00:54:26.000 But before they did this, it was all of you guys at home, truly.

00:54:29.940 The tags fighting for me in the comments when I was being smeared,

00:54:32.900 when they even tried to wipe away my friendship.

00:54:35.280 Like, she hasn't spoken to him since 2015.

00:54:36.640 It was you guys. Like, this letter is for you.

00:54:40.060 Every time he says Candace, it means all of us.

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00:57:46.180 All right, you guys.

00:57:47.680 I'm glad I held it together.

00:57:48.700 Glad I held it together reading that letter.

00:57:52.480 First comment that we have is from Jennifer.

00:57:56.120 Jennifer writes, do we know anything about the security team that was supposed to keep Charlie alive?

00:57:59.780 I do.

00:58:00.200 I have everybody's names, the people that we couldn't identify.

00:58:03.420 Jennifer continues, so many questions.

00:58:05.360 Since the M.O. was out there due to Trump, why wasn't this taken into consideration?

00:58:10.380 Were drones offered and or declined?

00:58:12.220 Did they do a drill run through that morning?

00:58:15.240 Amir Odom, hey, what's up?

00:58:17.180 Thank you.

00:58:18.140 He has a great YouTube channel, Amir Odom.

00:58:20.500 He writes, before we judge Candace for thinking that there's hidden agendas, we have to admit history has given her every reason to.

00:58:26.300 Absolutely.

00:58:27.020 There are.

00:58:27.320 This is political.

00:58:27.940 Politics is a nasty business, Amir.

00:58:30.260 As you know, you know, you're a friend of someone who's in politics, Brett Cooper.

00:58:33.940 Corey Henry writes,

00:58:35.100 Give me the Kool-Aid in a juice box, LMAO, regarding Ashton Forbes' cult comment.

00:58:40.980 Yeah, it was totally crazy.

00:58:42.640 I don't know what I like.

00:58:44.120 Yeah, maybe we're in a cult of truth.

00:58:45.700 I don't know.

00:58:46.500 Like, what's it called?

00:58:47.800 Maybe Christianity? 0.89

00:58:48.900 I mean, like, I want to tell the truth.

00:58:52.060 So there's that.

00:58:53.460 Sarah D. writes,

00:58:54.860 Keep going, Candace.

00:58:55.680 Love from Australia.

00:58:56.760 Thank you, Sarah.

00:58:57.580 Steve writes,

00:58:58.120 A major victory in defending Charlie's true legacy.

00:59:00.320 We stand with you, Candace.

00:59:01.460 The truth will come out.

00:59:02.300 When it does, it will shake the foundations of the world.

00:59:04.300 I believe it.

00:59:05.100 You believe it.

00:59:05.740 We all believe it.

00:59:06.880 John and Irina believe it.

00:59:08.580 We feel it, you know?

00:59:10.180 Like, we're fighting.

00:59:11.200 And it feels, there's a finality to it.

00:59:14.340 Like, this had to happen.

00:59:15.800 And the demons are frantic.

00:59:17.260 And they're angry.

00:59:18.180 And I only have a platform because I keep telling the truth.

00:59:23.020 You know?

00:59:23.440 If I had lied, if I had sold my soul, which many people have done, I wouldn't have earned

00:59:28.320 your trust.

00:59:29.380 And so, yeah, it comes at a cost.

00:59:31.980 It certainly comes at a cost.

00:59:33.720 Last two weeks have been very hard.

00:59:35.080 But it also comes at an even more amazing reward.

00:59:40.960 Justine Lowe writes,

00:59:41.900 As soon as you said he was betrayed, I knew it was true. 0.98

00:59:44.560 My female intuition at work brought me to tears and prayed for your safety.

00:59:49.400 Thank you.

00:59:50.360 He was.

00:59:51.740 He was.

00:59:53.180 RN Explorer writes,

00:59:54.380 Thank you for fighting for the truth.

00:59:55.920 I believed you from the beginning.

00:59:57.640 I am crying as you read that letter.

00:59:59.240 I'm glad you cried on me because I was like,

01:00:00.660 not twice in the same year am I going to be caught crying.

01:00:05.120 But, yeah, you are laying your life and fighting for the truth for your friend.

01:00:10.500 Amy writes,

01:00:12.320 Most holy theoticus, bless and protect the handmaid of God, Candice, and her family.

01:00:18.100 Candice, so many of us in the Orthodox Christian community are praying for you.

01:00:22.360 Lord, have mercy on us all.

01:00:24.660 Yep.

01:00:25.600 You know, it has also been great to feel the Orthodox and the Catholic energy

01:00:30.400 rising, and I want to be clear.

01:00:31.780 I'm not saying that as a pot shot to other denominations,

01:00:35.440 but it feels like for a lot of, there's been a lot of persecution,

01:00:40.280 and a lot of this for some reason has involved, as I showed you yesterday,

01:00:43.480 you know, pastors that have been a part of this,

01:00:45.320 like part of spreading these lies, and that is, it's not good.

01:00:48.960 It's just not good to have pastors using the Bible to lie.

01:00:53.460 It's just not okay.

01:00:55.140 Maheen Siddiqui writes,

01:00:56.320 I think it would be interesting to do a deep dive into how the term Judeo-Christian came about.

01:01:01.480 I'm aware of it.

01:01:02.660 It seems to be a very convenient word for Israel.

01:01:05.040 I don't think any of the core values or their views on Jesus are shared.

01:01:09.080 It definitively is not.

01:01:10.420 And, you know, we inherited it.

01:01:12.300 We were all in public schools.

01:01:13.220 We all thought the same thing.

01:01:14.040 I was working for Zionist entities.

01:01:15.460 So I don't fault us, our ignorance.

01:01:18.900 That is how the deception is thick, you know,

01:01:22.780 and we're finally piercing through that layer for the first time.

01:01:27.700 Well, Wallace writes,

01:01:28.560 Decoy Boy, please reach out to Kansas' people for the tea.

01:01:33.300 Gang Gang is inquiring.

01:01:34.380 We feel like we know, but we don't know now, right?

01:01:38.040 I agree.

01:01:40.400 Elda MJ writes,

01:01:41.600 Yeah, I think we have to be brave.

01:02:01.940 And I'm a real Christian.

01:02:02.820 I know that this life is not it.

01:02:04.740 I know it's not it.

01:02:05.380 And in fact, people I know have intentionally been trying to convince us that this is it

01:02:11.040 so that they can further commit you to their matrix,

01:02:14.660 to get you to agree to sell your soul,

01:02:16.460 to get you to agree to lie because you're so worried about things that are in this world.

01:02:20.780 I know that Charlie's soul was removed from his body.

01:02:26.320 And I know that he's watching.

01:02:28.760 And I keep that in mind.

01:02:29.920 When it gets hard, I keep in mind that Charlie is watching.

01:02:31.780 I know, I feel that he's with me.

01:02:34.760 And he's proud that somebody who cared about him is fighting.

01:02:38.260 Boredom took over, writes,

01:02:40.620 You are literally my spirit animal and have given me the motivation to push forward on my dream.

01:02:43.840 Charlie is so proud of you, love.

01:02:45.020 Please don't give up on us.

01:02:45.960 And these fakes should be scared.

01:02:47.340 You are the storm.

01:02:48.520 Thank you.

01:02:48.980 We are the storm.

01:02:50.120 Because I'm telling you, I could not do it without you guys and my family.

01:02:55.240 And they've just been amazing.

01:02:56.740 Luna writes,

01:02:57.300 Charlie also told Dr. Frank Turk right before his death when they were having a convo about

01:03:01.140 upping his security that Charlie knows, quote unquote, they want him dead.

01:03:04.920 Frank shared this on his podcast following Charlie's death.

01:03:07.200 That makes four.

01:03:08.580 Yeah, he knew.

01:03:09.440 He knew he was going to be killed.

01:03:11.220 Who did he think was going to kill him?

01:03:13.500 That's the question.

01:03:15.260 And I'm glad to hear that Frank Turk shared that.

01:03:17.000 Linda writes,

01:03:18.660 Girl, you made me cry.

01:03:19.540 God bless you.

01:03:20.140 I'm praying for you.

01:03:20.880 Ave Maria.

01:03:21.560 Thank you.

01:03:23.700 John in Arena made me cry.

01:03:25.180 So it's really their fault.

01:03:26.320 If you want to be angry at anybody, you can be angry at John at Arena for writing that.

01:03:29.640 It just, I did.

01:03:30.860 I felt the Holy Spirit in those words.

01:03:32.940 I really did.

01:03:34.460 It's how we're all feeling.

01:03:36.220 Turtle Mama writes, I enjoy listening to your content and I feel so at peace with the information

01:03:39.400 that you share as truth.

01:03:40.460 Sending prayers from Mississippi and stay safe.

01:03:43.120 Thank you so much, Turtle Mama.

01:03:45.340 We're all actually doing this thing.

01:03:47.300 So thank you guys for supporting me on this journey.

01:03:49.500 Thank you for all of you guys that have signed up at CandaceOwens.com, bought yourself a hat,

01:03:53.180 a t-shirt, joined our CIA, the decentralized, which is more of a threat, by the way.

01:03:58.080 If it's centralized, you can just whack it.

01:03:59.700 If it's decentralized, it's everywhere.

01:04:01.600 And that's why I sent out that little packet to people that I trust.

01:04:04.980 And I sent screenshots to Max.

01:04:06.480 I'm like, everyone who is threatening me behind the scenes, all that stuff, using lawfare to

01:04:13.700 threaten me or speech, like we're now all attached.

01:04:16.980 Okay.

01:04:17.860 So there we go.

01:04:19.420 I recommend that everybody does that.

01:04:21.080 Send it to people on the left, send it to people on the right.

01:04:23.720 I love that people on the left and right are finally coming together.

01:04:26.240 Can I say that as well?

01:04:27.860 Gosh, we are over time for the book club.

01:04:30.120 Hopefully people are on this so they know why we're late to the book club, which we have

01:04:34.040 tonight as we begin this introduction to this book, which they will not reprint, but is

01:04:40.880 a must read Sigmund Freud and the Jewish Mystical Tradition.

01:04:47.320 So anyways, you guys, I'll see you over on CandaceOwens.com.

01:05:00.120 I'll see you over on CandaceOwens.com.

Candace Owens - October 07, 2025

TPUSA RESPONDS： Yes, The Text Messages Are Real. ｜ Candace Ep 249

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