Candace Owens - October 01, 2026


VANITY AFFAIRS: The Profile Piece From Hell. New Fed Narrative Drops! | Ep 395

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00:00:15.480 All right, you guys. Hear ye, hear ye. Not all heroes wear capes. Some of them apparently write
00:00:21.440 for Vanity Fair. I never thought I would utter that sentence, by the way. But I would like to
00:00:27.820 assert firmly that the writer Clara Malo should probably win a Pulitzer for this remarkable and
00:00:35.560 unintentionally hilarious profile piece that was published in Vanity Fair regarding, of course,
00:00:43.740 Erica, CEO and chairwoman of Turning Point USA. I'm sorry, guys, but we have to go through it.
00:00:48.260 It is a certified hit. Hats off to Clara. I actually can't believe Turning Point USA agreed
00:00:54.840 to grant four months of access to this reporter.
00:00:59.140 Of course, the question that I have is
00:01:02.000 no access for Lake Forest Group
00:01:04.440 following Charlie Kirk's assassination
00:01:06.360 to conduct an independent review
00:01:08.360 of what went wrong on that day.
00:01:09.680 You guys have been out saying it was UVU's fault.
00:01:11.960 You have a chance to prove it.
00:01:12.860 And you go, no, no, we don't want to participate.
00:01:15.840 But Vanity Fair, yeah.
00:01:17.840 Here are my children.
00:01:19.120 Here's my mother-in-law.
00:01:19.980 Here's access to my ailing mother. 0.89
00:01:21.460 Take it all.
00:01:22.160 I just want to be in Vanity Fair.
00:01:24.120 It's my dream to be famous. Yeah, totally what she was thinking.
00:01:29.360 Lots to unpack, you guys. Welcome back to Candace. 0.85
00:01:46.600 Okay, so before we get to the high points throughout this piece, I first want to give
00:01:50.480 you guys my opinion. My overall view on why it's dripping with snark throughout from the
00:01:56.560 reporter, I think most people would be like, oh, it's because it's left versus right. Vanity
00:02:00.520 Fair is traditionally left-leaning. No, that's not this. This is not a leftist hit piece. I
00:02:06.060 actually think that what this piece is, is a frustrated reporter who for four months of her
00:02:12.900 life is being forced to subject herself to an obvious grift, where a woman who reports to be
00:02:18.580 a qualified CEO and chairwoman of a massive organization doesn't want to actually answer 1.00
00:02:26.640 even the most basic questions about that organization, politics, and yet she's expecting 0.98
00:02:32.220 you to just write up a shiny, glowing review of her. The piece reads to me like it's a reflection
00:02:37.660 of that reporter's frustration because you have the writer, who's a young woman, likely had to
00:02:43.960 try hard in life, at least try harder than Erica.
00:02:48.380 Likely you have a writer who had to do things
00:02:50.620 based on a meritocracy like the rest of us,
00:02:52.940 who's probably underpaid,
00:02:54.580 who's now sitting across from a multimillionaire,
00:02:57.480 who's really accomplished nothing in her entire life
00:03:00.860 and expects to be painted as profound
00:03:02.960 because the widow, right?
00:03:04.760 The widow, I'm the widow.
00:03:06.320 She's supposed to feel bad for me.
00:03:07.680 There are so many gems throughout.
00:03:09.780 And I feel like we have to start
00:03:11.540 with just checking in on Blake Neff.
00:03:13.960 Because I remember he bookmarked my tweet, didn't he?
00:03:17.360 I tweeted out on July 18th the following.
00:03:20.060 He said that, yeah, you can bring this up.
00:03:23.560 Instead, they are going to put Erica in a spread for Vanity Fair 1.00
00:03:27.500 with her children to pull at our heartstrings.
00:03:30.800 Say this tweet, it's going to age well.
00:03:32.600 And Blake, who thought he was just being so funny,
00:03:36.860 decided to add that tweet to his bookmarks.
00:03:39.240 Well, Blakey, you can remove that from your bookmarks.
00:03:42.920 You guys are forever gaslighting me and my sources,
00:03:45.400 but yes, Erica's profile was at long last dropped
00:03:48.080 and we should just begin with the headline photo
00:03:50.660 because it is something.
00:03:52.560 It is something, this photo.
00:03:57.340 I don't know why she can never just be normal
00:04:00.380 and do normal things.
00:04:02.340 It's like they're doing it on purpose.
00:04:03.860 They want us to respond to this.
00:04:05.840 There's a lot happening here.
00:04:07.000 The good news is, I guess, that Erica is not in the drapes.
00:04:11.060 She's not in the drapes.
00:04:12.300 They're sheer, and she probably wants to be there,
00:04:14.980 but she's controlling herself.
00:04:16.360 The bad news is that Gigi, her daughter,
00:04:20.800 who I just, I keep calling out,
00:04:22.240 I don't like the way Gigi's being treated.
00:04:23.780 I don't, I'd never like it.
00:04:25.100 Gigi does not look comfortable in this photo.
00:04:27.840 You can keep this up.
00:04:28.900 That's putting it mildly, I think,
00:04:30.920 saying Gigi does not look comfortable.
00:04:33.380 The entire scene looks like it's happening
00:04:35.740 in like a crusty Motel 8 on the side of a highway.
00:04:38.520 it's giving breaking bad and when I envision how the picture that moment came together
00:04:43.920 it just disturbs me a little bit I just I just imagine happy-go-lucky toddler being put under
00:04:49.660 a hat her mom saying sweet things between takes as she's trying to get the sad face right trying
00:04:56.040 to nail the sad face like it's okay baby and then like that's okay it's it's just it makes
00:05:02.160 me uncomfortable to think about how they got that shot and then you have Charlie's bust in the
00:05:06.760 corner. And I think that that's really the most authentic part of the picture, because he looks
00:05:11.580 mildly concerned, confused, disappointed. He's wondering, but we're all wondering,
00:05:16.980 what's happening? What's happening in this photo? Anyway, then, of course, becomes the
00:05:24.560 relatability grift, the kids' toys that are on the ground. You're supposed to go, oh, this is like a
00:05:30.000 working single mom. The kids are at the office with her $700 Christian Louboutins thrown 0.99
00:05:36.520 in the corner because everyone knows a pair of Christian Louboutins. That's like the signature
00:05:41.720 working mom shoe. And you have that if you're a single mom working. Then, of course, you have 1.00
00:05:48.800 the kids' shoes laid beside them because Erica cannot afford a housekeeper. And the kids are 0.99
00:05:55.320 messy. That's relatable. So relate, guys. Relate. Reality, okay, even people who have messy homes
00:06:03.980 and don't have housekeepers are going to tidy things up if guests are coming over.
00:06:08.580 But the content of the article is even better than the photos.
00:06:12.020 It's the best part.
00:06:13.160 So let's go through some of these widow peaks, as I am now terming them. 0.92
00:06:17.820 Let's just first start with it's okay now that Erica is Catholic. 0.97
00:06:23.220 It's a personal gripe. 0.98
00:06:24.160 I will admit it.
00:06:24.760 The earliest thing that they gaslit me over.
00:06:26.600 But since Erica attends mass every Sunday and travels with a priest, 0.70
00:06:30.900 I guess it's now okay to admit that she's a hybrid.
00:06:34.360 That's what she describes herself as in the article,
00:06:36.720 an evangelical Catholic hybrid.
00:06:39.640 It reads, quote,
00:06:40.580 across hours of interviews,
00:06:42.260 Kirk spoke with remarkable candor
00:06:44.100 about the most intimate details of her husband's death,
00:06:48.140 her faith, which she describes as a hybrid of Catholicism
00:06:52.780 that she was raised with
00:06:53.900 and the evangelical Christianity
00:06:55.360 that she embraces as a young adult,
00:06:57.420 came up in every single one of our conversations.
00:07:00.000 but politics rarely did.
00:07:02.720 Okay, so nevermind that it makes no sense off the bat.
00:07:04.980 You're not a Catholic evangelical hybrid
00:07:07.240 because you can't be. 0.93
00:07:09.140 You either submit to the authority of the Catholic church
00:07:12.160 or you don't.
00:07:12.900 It's not an ice cream shop that you get to like choose flavors.
00:07:16.020 And I wish she would just admit that what I said was true. 0.98
00:07:19.200 She's whatever she needs to be for the money.
00:07:21.380 Okay, whatever room she's in is what she's appealing to.
00:07:23.500 And right now she feels like
00:07:26.380 she needs to keep up the faith grift.
00:07:28.720 That's what's more important.
00:07:30.000 And she can rely on well-meaning Christians to view her as a widow, the Christians that are being threatened by all these pastors that are going around and delivering sermons about why she should be honored.
00:07:42.180 But on the political side, she doesn't want to address it.
00:07:45.280 And the writer notes that she says, quote, in fact, she seemed uneasy articulating her own political views.
00:07:52.280 I couldn't tell if it was because she lacked conviction or if she simply didn't want to offend me.
00:07:56.680 Either way, it was hard to see how she could lead the movement that Charlie Kirk created.
00:08:01.320 She told me that every decision she makes is based on the question, will this bring me closer to heaven or further away from it?
00:08:09.340 I am so fixated and paranoid, she says, of having anything keeping me from going to heaven to be reunited with my husband.
00:08:19.480 I love that.
00:08:21.440 That right there is absolutely what made the reporter know that she was dealing with a fraud.
00:08:27.540 The absurdity of taking over a quarter billion dollar political organization and thinking that you don't have to respond meaningfully to political questions that are being asked of you as long as you just go, oh, I'm just not I'm focused right now on heaven.
00:08:43.640 Where else would that work?
00:08:44.980 Give me the industry. 0.97
00:08:46.860 Give me the CEO. 0.78
00:08:48.140 So tell me where else that grift would work.
00:08:51.800 In what world does a CEO and a chairman
00:08:54.000 get to abstain from answering questions
00:08:56.860 by just being like, I'm heaven focused right now.
00:09:00.320 I am paranoid about being heaven focused.
00:09:04.020 Imagine like the CFO of Enron
00:09:06.260 being peppered with questions about the finances,
00:09:08.460 about where the money, what's happening with the money.
00:09:10.600 He's just like, I'm really heaven focused right now.
00:09:14.140 I feel like I wish I knew that excuse
00:09:16.020 back when I was in high school
00:09:17.140 and taking like a chemistry exam.
00:09:18.700 Like I should, I'm so, I,
00:09:20.820 Professor, I am just paranoid
00:09:24.840 and focused right now on heaven
00:09:28.260 and being reunited with my loved ones.
00:09:30.720 And so I am going to have to abstain
00:09:32.700 from answering your questions
00:09:34.000 about everything that's happening
00:09:37.940 in the periodic table of elements.
00:09:40.940 Like if I'm the writer of this article, 0.95
00:09:42.120 I'm annoyed that you think I'm dumb enough 0.91
00:09:43.880 to just accept that and not to realize 0.96
00:09:45.720 that you probably just don't know the answers to anything
00:09:48.180 because this is not your world,
00:09:50.120 that you are pretending
00:09:52.700 that you're leading a political organization
00:09:54.500 when you probably don't even know basic civics answers
00:09:58.320 if they sat her down and were like,
00:10:00.320 okay, Erica, what happens if, you know,
00:10:04.840 God forbid, the president and the vice president die?
00:10:07.600 I bet you she wouldn't be able to answer that question.
00:10:11.180 Just admit, you don't think about politics.
00:10:12.440 I think that would be so much more respectable.
00:10:14.800 You're overwhelmed and you have no idea why you're in this position.
00:10:18.760 Another point in the interview where Erica does the same emotional appeal is when the
00:10:22.360 reporter asks her about her positions regarding Israel and Bibi Netanyahu.
00:10:27.380 Kind of a critical political issue right now to have an opinion on.
00:10:31.380 Given the war, given Iran, given gas prices, given everything that's happening internally
00:10:38.220 in the Republican Party, the war between the neocons, who have never been conservative,
00:10:44.400 And the America First Party, America First group who doesn't care about Israel.
00:10:50.020 That's a prominent issue to have an opinion on.
00:10:53.600 Genocide in Gaza, all of it, it's central to the political divide today.
00:10:57.240 The CEO of Turning Point USA is actually required to have an opinion on that.
00:11:02.940 And yet, the reporter tells us, quote, when I press Erika about her views on Israel, she says,
00:11:08.140 to be quite honest with you, I don't sit around thinking about what Bibi Netanyahu is doing.
00:11:14.400 My brain bandwidth right now is honoring my husband, loving on my babies,
00:11:20.220 and building Turning Point to be everything that it could be.
00:11:23.320 I really don't have the bandwidth to go down the rabbit holes of all of it.
00:11:29.000 It's not a rabbit hole.
00:11:30.520 It's not a conspiracy.
00:11:32.760 What's happening right now in Iran, what's happening with the gas prices,
00:11:39.820 the inflation, what people are spending on groceries,
00:11:43.020 it's not a rabbit hole that you have to go down.
00:11:46.220 It's like an opinion that you need to have
00:11:48.620 if you are at the helm of an organization.
00:11:51.080 If you don't have the bandwidth to fashion an opinion on Israel
00:11:54.040 as it relates to the at-home and foreign policies of the United States,
00:11:57.880 you're just not qualified to be running the political organization.
00:12:00.280 I'm sorry. That's obvious.
00:12:03.640 A favorite laugh-out-loud portion of this
00:12:06.140 is when the author just acknowledges that Erika is weird.
00:12:09.960 Like, extremely weird.
00:12:13.020 Everything she does is odd. And I want you to take a listen to this paragraph.
00:12:18.460 She writes, the writer is starting this. Erica knows that she doesn't make sense to most people.
00:12:24.280 I'm built different, she says. I do not know how to explain it other than this world will not
00:12:30.040 break me. The writer jumps in. It's true. She's an enigma right down to her clothes.
00:12:35.700 The first time we met in the lobby of the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in Washington the morning of the
00:12:41.200 White House Correspondents' Dinner, I came dressed in my best Jackie O impression, conservative
00:12:45.940 shift dress, ballet flats, and an overcoat. Kirk was dressed like a 2016 Kardashian wearing a black
00:12:53.780 silk set and a freedom cap, which she paired with glittery high-top Golden Goose sneakers.
00:13:01.660 Her fingers, capped in a fresh set of baby pink acrylic nails, were embellished with Super Bowl
00:13:07.240 sized rings featuring her kids' initials, a blinding diamond or engagement ring, and a copy
00:13:14.300 of Charlie's Presidential Medal of Freedom. I love your rings, one of Turning Point's high
00:13:22.040 school members would tell her weeks later. Thanks, she says. They're real, like my hair.
00:13:29.160 there's so much happening right there that's not how you respond that's not how you respond
00:13:41.340 when someone says i like your rings i i like anything i like your jacket thanks it's real
00:13:48.600 like my hair it's it feels mean girls coated like you like the compliment goes sideways or
00:13:55.880 something like suddenly you're like being told you're poor it's like this is real this is real
00:14:00.860 diamonds like my hair this is the scene it reminds me of from mean girls take a listen
00:14:06.440 you're like really pretty thank you so you agree what you think you're really pretty 0.97
00:14:14.360 oh i don't know oh my god i love your bracelet where did you get it that's my mom made it that's
00:14:20.420 all i wanted was to agree it feels like that's it that's the uh i don't know that's what it felt
00:14:25.380 like to me it's like I just am trying to say that I like your bracelets or I like your rings and she
00:14:29.840 needs to tell you that the diamonds are real and but also she keeps doing that talking about her
00:14:34.560 I don't I don't know if there's like some conspiracy about Erica having fake hair I haven't heard it
00:14:38.060 I'm not down that rabbit hole but um yeah very strange very odd thing to say uh now we should
00:14:47.200 actually clock some of her to be expected I would say like Erica you should expect some lies also
00:14:54.560 some strange revelations. We've kind of grown accustomed to Turning Point USA, just, you know,
00:14:59.780 feeding us BS. But the article is an exceptional strand of that, I would tell you. First is Erica
00:15:05.980 pretending that she's sensitive about maintaining Charlie's spaces. The writer tells us, quote,
00:15:10.480 even though she's the CEO, Erica does not have her own office at Turning Point headquarters,
00:15:16.020 opting instead to work on the couch in Charlie's office near his desk, which has been preserved
00:15:21.720 as a shrine. When I'm there, Mac climbs into his father's chair, eliciting a gasp from Erica.
00:15:28.540 No one has sat there since Charlie, she tells me, before deciding that only Mac can sit there.
00:15:35.380 The floor above, which was meant to become a full floor office suite for Charlie before his death,
00:15:40.340 remains a demolished construction zone, left exactly how it was the day he died.
00:15:45.620 okay so i guess we're not we're supposed to pretend like we don't remember that time that
00:15:53.120 erica let mikey mccoy slide into charlie's home office like slightly more personal would be your
00:15:58.260 home office personal office 12 days after charlie was murdered mikey mccoy was taking interviews
00:16:04.540 taking fox news hits remember this then we had picture gate the picture went missing like this
00:16:12.620 is not a person that is sensitive to trying to preserve the legacy of Charlie. So I'm just going
00:16:18.820 to call BS on that. Like, oh, I'm so surprised Mac did that. Mikey McCoy, I guess you can just
00:16:24.560 jump into that chair right away. The internet remembers, Erica, it's forever. Do not pretend
00:16:29.480 that you're maintaining spaces for Mac. Also, I don't even understand the point of the construction
00:16:35.040 thing. Not finishing a construction project, that just feels irresponsible. It sounds like a safety
00:16:40.200 hazard. Finish the construction project, okay? That's not a space that Charlie's ever been in.
00:16:44.540 There's no core memory that's being unlocked from a demolished construction zone. Everyone,
00:16:49.460 please stop being stupid in your pursuit to pull at our heartstrings. Another very questionable 1.00
00:16:56.140 statement arrives in the article when Erica's excuse, this is her excuse, for sending someone
00:17:03.920 to Allos. You might remember this. We never covered this. I now wish that Erica had sort of
00:17:10.000 left the story alone, left it to die. But apparently people found that she made purchases 0.92
00:17:15.840 at Allo through her Allo account the day after Charlie died, like the morning after he died or
00:17:21.680 something. And the reason why I wish she had let the story die is because when I saw this going
00:17:26.880 around, it was my assumption that someone around her, while she was traumatized and aggrieved,
00:17:34.720 thought to go out and get her close. And then I thought that was nearly confirmed because
00:17:39.220 Elizabeth McCoy did this long thread and answered and said, I'm the one who went to
00:17:43.700 Aloe. Nobody had any clothes or whatever. And again, my assumption was that Erica was in a
00:17:50.200 hysterical state. And certainly I assumed that at no point it was Erica herself who sent someone
00:17:57.100 to buy clothes because she was already thinking about PR. But that's what we learn. Alas,
00:18:03.420 In this article, we are informed that, quote, the night that Charlie died, she remembers sitting on, sitting in her Salt Lake City hotel room, thinking about the only thing that she had to wear on Air Force Two the next day, a proclaimed T-shirt with the phrase, heaven is my home, printed across the front.
00:18:24.800 And I'm just recruiting on the back.
00:18:27.120 The last thing, this is a quote from Erica, the last thing I need is people reading into the fact that heaven is my home.
00:18:33.140 she recalls thinking. So the next morning, she had a Turning Point staff member go to Aloe Yoga
00:18:39.000 to buy plain black clothes for her and several others, including one young woman who vomited
00:18:44.660 on herself from the trauma. So then Charlie is assassinated. My assumption was Erica was being
00:18:55.200 sedated. My assumption would be that she may have even had to go to the hospital to be sedated
00:18:58.680 because the trauma of a shock assassination would warrant that.
00:19:04.140 I now know that when she went back to her hotel that night,
00:19:08.660 she thought, well, nobody knows me.
00:19:11.100 I've never been introduced to the world.
00:19:12.920 So nobody's been mean to me yet.
00:19:15.120 There's been nothing online chatter about my outfits.
00:19:17.740 And yet her thought was, what am I going to wear tomorrow when I'm on the plane?
00:19:22.020 I think the world would have been fine if she showed up in a hotel bathrobe,
00:19:26.320 If she was wearing the same outfit that she was wearing, if she was wearing somebody's jacket, if somebody from Turning Point USA went and grabbed her one of the many T-shirts that are available at every event that they give out, an American Comeback Tour T-shirt, Erica thought through this the night before.
00:19:42.120 And these are the little things that I think add up to the fact that there's something very
00:19:46.700 wrong with her. This is not a normal thing. She should have been catatonic, shocked, not thinking
00:19:52.420 about food, clothing, thinking ahead about outfits in Air Force Two. It's crazy. And to give you a
00:19:58.800 real-life comparison, even though he did not die, I walked you guys through the story of our security
00:20:04.880 in Russia who had a stroke, and we thought he was going to die. His wife, as I told you,
00:20:10.940 jumped onto the first plane,
00:20:14.280 which was get to D.C. to get an emergency visa,
00:20:16.780 jumped onto the second plane,
00:20:18.180 had to lay over in the Middle East wearing cowboy boots, okay?
00:20:22.200 When she showed up at the hotel in Moscow,
00:20:25.260 she was still wearing the cowboy boots
00:20:27.400 because her thought process was not,
00:20:29.980 what am I wearing?
00:20:31.180 It was, is my husband going to live or die?
00:20:33.560 And the shock of knowing that her husband had a stroke
00:20:35.460 in a foreign country.
00:20:36.500 It is not, this is not normal. 1.00
00:20:38.380 We're not gonna pretend this is normal.
00:20:39.680 this makes it infinitely worse, infinitely worse, that it was Erica that directed someone to go to
00:20:44.520 Aloe because she was thinking ahead about how her outfit would be perceived. She issued the directive.
00:20:50.620 I don't know. I just, that is just a lot for me. We didn't know she was weird yet. Now we for sure
00:20:58.000 know that she is weird and that she was concerned about her outfit. Another questionable statement 1.00
00:21:04.700 is the reason that Erica provides for wearing the glittery suit. Obviously, this went viral. 0.97
00:21:08.940 the suit also this point in the vanley fair article has already gone viral and of course
00:21:15.140 people were like this is a weird way to come out um why does it feel like it's a celebration
00:21:19.780 you got this glittery pantsuit on it offended a lot of people the fireworks whatever you want
00:21:25.640 to call it and the 1600 alice and olivia designer suit to open am fest in her husband's stead
00:21:35.420 Erica says this in the article, quote,
00:21:37.000 People can see the sparkly suit on stage, but they have no idea the fact that that was the only thing that fit.
00:21:46.260 Everyone gets a half picture.
00:21:50.700 A $1,600 Alice and Olivia tailored suit was the only thing that fit her that day.
00:21:58.180 And again, it's giving mean girls when she says it's the only thing that fits her.
00:22:02.400 This is a quote. This is a sweatpants, the only thing that fits me right now. Take a look.
00:22:14.760 But she was telling the truth, Regina George, because she was, remember, she was eating the
00:22:18.660 creatine bars and didn't know that she was gaining weight. But Erica, she's got a team of people
00:22:24.860 working on her every move, hair, makeup, wardrobe, stylists, apparently opening AmFest, we're supposed 0.99
00:22:30.560 to imagine caught her off guard. She didn't know it was coming. She was completely stranded,
00:22:34.620 never mind the fact that the event was held in Phoenix. That's where Erica lives, right? Phoenix
00:22:39.540 Scottsdale, that's where Erica lives. So even if she had no clothes in the building for some strange 0.82
00:22:45.740 reason, she could have sent someone to her house to grab, I don't know, maybe one of, she could
00:22:50.980 have recycled a look because at this point in December, Erica was completing the Everybody
00:22:56.780 grieves differently world eras tour she had a lot of outfits that we saw we saw immediately on
00:23:02.620 september 12th when she addressed the nation she was wearing uh the white blazer she could have 0.88
00:23:07.880 recycled that charlie's memorial on the 21st she was wearing a white pantsuit we have the
00:23:14.800 presidential medal of freedom ceremony she was wearing a dress jesse waters interview on november
00:23:19.920 5th she was wearing a green suit uh the charlie kirk legacy award fox news okay maybe the glitter
00:23:26.760 Again, I didn't even realize that there's still fireworks in the background.
00:23:29.640 That's November 6th.
00:23:31.200 Sergio Gore's appointment in the Oval Office.
00:23:33.840 That's pretty random.
00:23:35.000 She had clothes then that were fitting.
00:23:37.420 That was on November 10th.
00:23:38.440 The New York Times Book Summit on December 3rd.
00:23:40.840 She had an outfit.
00:23:41.580 I feel like this could have worked also beyond an Alice and Olivia suit.
00:23:45.400 The Sean Hannity interview on December 8th.
00:23:47.460 The Fox and Friends on December 9th.
00:23:50.900 Co-hosting Fox's The Five.
00:23:54.140 That's on December 9th as well.
00:23:55.640 outnumbered December 10th,
00:23:58.700 red jackets,
00:23:59.940 the town hall with Barry Weiss,
00:24:02.780 the black suit.
00:24:03.700 That would have been very appropriate.
00:24:05.880 Erica, when she gave an award
00:24:07.800 to Caleb Chilcutt on December 20th,
00:24:11.960 that's the day after.
00:24:13.220 So she had clothes by the next day.
00:24:15.420 She had clothes the day after that
00:24:17.000 when she sat down with the Nicki Minaj.
00:24:21.000 She had clothes on the 21st
00:24:23.120 when, I mean, every single one
00:24:24.600 of these is a different outfit.
00:24:25.640 when she released an interview with Shannon Bream.
00:24:28.240 So I just, I feel like Erica is not telling the truth
00:24:31.800 when she says that was the only thing that fit her.
00:24:34.460 That, I don't believe that. 0.99
00:24:36.220 I feel like that's dumb 0.97
00:24:37.200 and she had some other options that were available. 0.92
00:24:40.460 And it doesn't, it never feels like a necessary lie.
00:24:43.500 She could have just repeated an outfit
00:24:45.320 or just say, I wore the pantoo
00:24:47.520 because I thought it looked really nice.
00:24:49.760 The problem is that it backfired 0.99
00:24:51.360 and now she thinks we're dumb. 0.92
00:24:54.060 Then there are the, most critically, the Candace Owens vindications throughout this piece. 0.58
00:25:00.300 They always say we never have any evidence.
00:25:02.320 They say my sources are just wine-drunk moms.
00:25:05.380 There's no positive evidence.
00:25:06.700 Well, the interview served as proof to the counter, okay?
00:25:10.860 I really appreciated this, this part of the article where it says, quote,
00:25:15.660 For its part, Turning Point has spent last year chasing internal leaks to Owens,
00:25:20.400 even firing employees, wrongly I might add, suspected of being the source. I saw the paranoia
00:25:26.460 play out in real time when Owens' tweeted details about our photo shoot in July, causing the
00:25:32.260 Turning Point team to spiral and go searching for the mole to no avail. In their eyes, this isn't
00:25:37.700 just a media war, it's life or death. Like, that's like, what? Yeah, that's what it feels like.
00:25:44.840 that's what it feels like every day mission critical is candace owens they don't even know
00:25:51.460 what they're doing anymore and i'm just trying to figure out who killed charlie kirk the writer's
00:25:56.300 observations were then reinforced because they apparently also interviewed tucker carlson for
00:26:00.960 this piece and tucker added this quote my sense is that the leadership of the organization is
00:26:06.440 wholly focused on candace owens says carlson who says that he advised turning points andrew colvette
00:26:12.100 If you don't like Candace Owens, don't focus on her. Carlson says he loves Candace and calls her a very humane and decent person, a position that he says has upset some people at Turning Point. Owens declined to comment. I did decline to comment on this piece. And I do want to say that's pretty good advice, but it's coming from the top. Yeah, leadership at Turning Point USA is wholly focused on me. And guess who's leading the company, guys? It's Erica Kirk.
00:26:39.220 Okay, it's not me obsessed with Erica. 0.99
00:26:40.980 I keep telling you behind the scenes, she's nasty. 0.99
00:26:43.300 She's very nasty, and she directs these attacks. 0.99
00:26:46.020 She meets up with people in D.C. 0.86
00:26:47.560 She knows these attacks are coming against me.
00:26:50.140 It's true.
00:26:50.940 She plays us like part of an innocent,
00:26:52.800 heaven-focused, heaven-focused,
00:26:54.320 when behind the scenes, 1.00
00:26:55.620 she's like Department of War to take down Candace Owens, 1.00
00:26:58.780 partnering with them. 1.00
00:26:59.360 It's totally normal Pentagon stuff.
00:27:01.860 And yet, despite their best efforts,
00:27:04.220 they had to vindicate me on several points
00:27:06.200 throughout this piece.
00:27:08.040 I told you guys that Charlie and Erica had an appointment to update their will just a couple of days the Monday after Charlie died. What remarkable timing. He was going to update his will with his wife, and then he never makes that appointment.
00:27:23.520 I will also tell you now, and I will say allegedly, but I was told that Mikey McCoy-Gate kept that appointment and they had canceled it once or twice before, but it was finally scheduled to happen in Arizona on that Monday.
00:27:38.160 And the article confirms that that appointment was supposed to happen via their advisor, who's way too involved in things, Doug DeGroote, confirms, but also tries to implant in our minds that this appointment was really just related to death threats.
00:27:53.840 We're told, quote, Erica and Charlie had been working on their will when Charlie was killed, says Doug DeGroote, who serves on Turning Point's board and also manages the couple's personal finances.
00:28:04.360 Charlie and Erica had planned to go to his office
00:28:06.340 the Monday after his murder to sign the paperwork.
00:28:09.220 Not only did they have two young kids,
00:28:10.800 but Charlie was receiving mounting death threats.
00:28:13.760 The night before Charlie was killed,
00:28:15.040 he had been discussing with Erica and their pastor
00:28:17.120 recommendations from his security team,
00:28:19.420 which included bulletproof glass shields and vests.
00:28:23.820 So we're supposed to imagine this will update
00:28:25.600 has something to do with the fact
00:28:26.800 that Charlie thought he was going to die,
00:28:28.900 and he throws it to things
00:28:31.200 that they were discussing the night before,
00:28:32.480 But also don't forget that Erica is going to tell Glenn back in December that, you know, she has his phone and he wasn't concerned about the death threats and he was awake because he was just so excited and just so excited the night before about starting the tour.
00:28:48.700 I have it on good authority that the priest has told people that there were some marital issues.
00:28:59.560 But more on that down the line, because we got lawsuits pending.
00:29:03.140 So I got to surprise people with lawsuit filings sometimes.
00:29:07.500 Another vindication, I told you guys that Erica was more anti-Israel than Charlie was behind the scenes, at least leading up to his death.
00:29:14.440 The confirmation actually also came from Tucker in that interview.
00:29:16.960 It reads, quote, after Charlie's death, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called him a lionhearted friends of Israel, of Israel.
00:29:27.480 But in his last year, Charlie had become increasingly willing to criticize Israel's actions in Gaza, even as he received mounting pressure from Zionist donors to support the Jewish state,
00:29:37.780 towing the line between two increasingly opposing opposing factions of the Republican Party while trying not to alienate either.
00:29:45.400 This is now the primary schism within the party itself.
00:29:49.700 Erika says, quote,
00:29:50.760 Do I think that you can question how other leaders run their country?
00:29:54.040 Absolutely, Erika says when I ask her about Israel's actions in Gaza.
00:29:57.860 That's the blessing of living in a country where we have freedom of speech.
00:30:01.920 Tucker Carlson told me that based on his personal conversations with Erika,
00:30:04.720 he knew her to be much more critical of Israel
00:30:06.460 and the interventionist approach to U.S. foreign policy in general
00:30:09.520 more than her husband ever was.
00:30:12.500 so erica was more vocal than charlie was behind the scenes and i told you that bothers me deeply
00:30:19.080 because it her complete 180 cents where she won't talk about israel she won't say anything uh other
00:30:24.920 than glowing things about israel her partnership with further partnerships turning point usa
00:30:30.540 and pro-israel causes that's not the direction that the organization was going in when charlie
00:30:35.920 was alive and if you think of her as someone who was in charlie's ear pushing him to be
00:30:41.800 more against Israel, it doesn't sit right. It does not make you think that Erika is innocent
00:30:50.800 and honest and has, why are we hearing this information from everybody but Erika about
00:30:57.100 Charlie's opinion on Israel? And where are her opinions? Why are they suddenly shifted?
00:31:02.140 And of course, a final vindication came for me because I told you that the decision to make
00:31:07.240 Erica, the CEO, happened faster than the public was even made aware of within the first 48 hours.
00:31:12.700 And I knew because Andrew Colbert told me, even though he denies some of this stuff.
00:31:18.260 And at the time, I was like, great, I'm so happy to hear that it's Erica. But in retrospect,
00:31:22.880 I realized how weird it was that Erica would have had any discussions regarding taking over
00:31:26.320 her husband's company so soon after his death. Like, that's a weird thing for someone to approach
00:31:30.460 you about. Like, can we take a vote? Can we do this? Well, Doug DeGruy, who's doing a lot of PR
00:31:35.420 for Turning Point, by the way.
00:31:36.480 He was, I told you early on,
00:31:38.440 one of the people that was like crazy behind the scenes
00:31:41.420 and wanting me to be crushed in the media.
00:31:43.580 He puts a PR spin on the reason
00:31:45.500 why they moved that quickly,
00:31:46.840 as opposed to just giving like an interim CEO.
00:31:49.580 It tells us that DeGroote says Erica saved Turning Point
00:31:52.660 two or three years of searching for
00:31:54.640 and training a new CEO from outside the organization.
00:31:58.440 The board voted two days after Charlie's death,
00:32:01.100 hoping to get through his memorial
00:32:02.600 before announcing Erica's new role to the world
00:32:05.280 quote but unfortunately the media was just all over us and asking the question all the time
00:32:10.760 says DeGroote who is us you're a board member people are not messaging you questions for PR
00:32:18.080 who is us you they were just there was so much pressure in the media aftermath that people were
00:32:22.640 shocked about Charlie's death I don't accept that within 24 hours of Charlie's death they were so
00:32:27.480 pushed to find a replacement I don't I think Doug DeGroote is not telling the truth I don't believe
00:32:31.900 that at all. Not for one bit. The world was so shocked that you're going to tell me that you
00:32:38.820 were just inundated with reporters in the first 24 hours that were like, who's going to replace
00:32:42.900 Charlie? Forget who the killer is. Who's going to replace him? And then they said, we better put it
00:32:49.100 to a vote right away. We can't wait. I smell BS with that statement. Again, getting ahead of
00:32:56.020 things because they're all starting to feel uncomfortable with the things that I have
00:33:01.240 revealed and been honest about and that they have gaslit me about for a very long time.
00:33:05.640 Anyway, I wanted to end this by letting you listen to the writer, Clara Malo, in her own
00:33:12.280 words, describing what her experience was like with Erica working on his piece. Take a listen.
00:33:19.520 One of the important points I wanted to speak with Erica on was her political opinions. Did 0.50
00:33:25.620 they differ from Charlie's? Were they the same? He obviously was a political animal and would
00:33:30.560 answered every single one of my questions quickly and succinctly and even if I hated his answers in
00:33:36.560 a way that impressed me. Erica very much feels like a religious person. She speaks openly and
00:33:43.680 often about her thoughts on Christianity but when push came to shove and we had that political
00:33:49.600 conversation she really did what she could to not touch on those topics and I think it can come
00:33:55.360 across as disingenuous or just not coherent. Everybody's saying it. Everybody's saying it,
00:34:05.860 but only Candace is going to be attacked for from the very beginning, saying she's she is not
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00:34:16.840 because she's not capable of doing that. She's also just not that bright. OK, she just isn't.
00:34:21.180 every time you see an interview, it's not impressive. And so what she does is she manipulates 1.00
00:34:25.640 through faith. Faith, faith, faith. How could you question? How could you ask? Faith, faith. I'm
00:34:30.120 focused on heaven. I'm just focused on heaven right now. And so I can't be expected to give
00:34:36.740 you a coherent response. Anyway, you guys, we will be right back after the break to discuss
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00:37:00.800 Okay, so it was in the air when the UVU independent review was coming out,
00:37:06.500 that Turning Point was leveling up. They're very obvious. There's a pattern here in terms of what
00:37:10.760 they do. When I say Turning Point USA, I'm also talking about they're an extension of the state,
00:37:14.740 obviously. Pentagon, Erica, is like the Department of War's emotional asset, whatever it is. And so
00:37:19.840 we had told you that this UVU independent review was coming. Barron actually had the scoop on that
00:37:24.760 and that it was going to be very bad for Turning Point USA. And so first we got the precursor,
00:37:29.940 which was a very sloppily filed. We intend to sue UVU. And then we learned they didn't even
00:37:33.360 participate in the independent review and they they lied i mean they just did brian harple they
00:37:39.380 dedicate pages to debunking brian harple's narrative on uh sean ryan's podcast where he
00:37:44.740 pretends that he the fake message meaning it was not his message presented like it was his like he
00:37:51.800 was in communication with the police he never was i mean there was so much wrong for independent
00:37:56.360 review we do an episode on it goes viral it's like three million views on youtube alone and
00:38:02.260 And, you know, I got I got to pay for I got to pay for what Turning Point does.
00:38:06.180 I am the sole focus of that organization.
00:38:07.680 So I wake up and first off, let's just just I didn't I don't read everything.
00:38:11.800 I'm going to be honest with you because it's so it's getting so unhinged.
00:38:14.260 But the Daily Mail runs this headline.
00:38:16.080 Just I don't even know.
00:38:17.620 Somebody's going to have to give me the spark notes on this.
00:38:20.080 Candace Owens in crisis.
00:38:21.460 This is like the Michael Jackson thing where you pretend the person's just like radical.
00:38:25.160 It's what they do to like Justin Bieber.
00:38:27.140 He's like, you got to like they're on drugs.
00:38:28.900 Candace Owens in crisis as family begs her to disappear.
00:38:32.260 and prays she isn't killed in big print.
00:38:35.720 Insiders reveal whispers of a foreign reconnaissance mission
00:38:39.760 and her links to a secret military location.
00:38:44.420 Didn't even read it.
00:38:45.680 It wasn't even worth reading.
00:38:46.540 It's like, that's so crazy.
00:38:48.820 I've never in my life even been on a military base.
00:38:52.220 That is just being 100% with you.
00:38:54.220 Nobody in my family has served in the military.
00:38:57.120 I've never been to a military base.
00:38:59.060 Secret missions, I can't do James Bond.
00:39:02.060 Whatever that is, I got to stay away from that, okay?
00:39:05.600 Then we have to get ready because of the same day,
00:39:07.980 there's a whiplash of a narrative shift.
00:39:10.400 Just absolute whiplash.
00:39:12.120 For the last year, you have been met
00:39:14.080 with what feels like a billion-dollar campaign against me,
00:39:17.880 that I was secretly in love with Charlie Kirk,
00:39:20.660 that I wanted Charlie all to myself. 0.97
00:39:22.160 I'm jealous of Erica.
00:39:23.260 They all kept using the sentence, 0.98
00:39:24.660 she's mad because Charlie chose Erica. 1.00
00:39:29.340 She wanted to marry Charlie.
00:39:31.680 Look at this clip, but Charlie chose Erica.
00:39:34.660 Then they said also that the reason
00:39:36.240 Charlie started pulling back from me,
00:39:37.740 this was Andrew Colbert,
00:39:38.860 was because I just was getting too crazy 0.82
00:39:40.940 on the Jewish stuff, right? 0.80
00:39:43.040 Israel stuff.
00:39:44.380 You've been bombarded with news over the last two years.
00:39:46.880 I mean, since I love Daily Wire,
00:39:48.080 that I'm akin to Adolf Hitler. 1.00
00:39:50.360 The Jews are not safe with me running around. 1.00
00:39:52.240 Literally, in the last year, 0.97
00:39:53.860 they tried to cancel me for saying,
00:39:55.720 they claimed that I said I did not,
00:39:57.640 but they said she supported Joseph Mengele.
00:40:00.640 I'm banned from Australia for hatred towards the Jews,
00:40:04.140 making a mockery, they said, of the Holocaust,
00:40:06.440 making a mockery of people
00:40:08.180 who were turned into bedside lamps and soap.
00:40:10.340 I mean, there have been so many insane headlines
00:40:12.480 calling me anti-Semitic.
00:40:15.200 New narrative now, the attacks are not landing.
00:40:17.660 So someone said, okay,
00:40:18.980 someone sat down at the meeting in his head.
00:40:21.340 What if we say the exact opposite?
00:40:24.780 And by golly, you guys,
00:40:26.100 the narrative has indeed shifted
00:40:28.260 and it is the exact opposite 0.98
00:40:29.540 it because now I'm a cheating lesbian who is funded. This is just so crazy. The person who 0.99
00:40:38.760 wrote this is unhinged. They're now like finding people with long records, you know, people,
00:40:44.940 the kind of people you can't sue. They're just like in trailer parks. It's like the they're so
00:40:49.760 in the Jeffrey Springer gutter. It's just like you're a convict. You have a history. Will you
00:40:53.980 say stuff about Candace that we can then just echo. Real headline, the cheating lesbian funded 1.00
00:40:59.980 by a Zionist, the deconstruction of Candace. And then it says Candace Owens is hidden homosexuality, 0.99
00:41:05.920 the federal agent promoting Candace Owens to become president so that he can blackmail her 0.99
00:41:11.900 with a sex tape. And the Zionist who secretly owns her anti-Zionist business. A lot to unpack. 0.88
00:41:21.120 Okay, it's schizophrenic.
00:41:23.180 It's amazing.
00:41:24.280 You have to laugh.
00:41:25.380 These people are so lost, so lost.
00:41:28.180 I actually think they need to hire me to go after me.
00:41:31.480 I keep saying that, hire me.
00:41:33.140 There's a lot of money.
00:41:33.880 I know they're paying people on Discord to do this stuff,
00:41:36.500 but they're acting too proud.
00:41:38.460 I can help them, okay?
00:41:40.340 I can help them.
00:41:41.220 I highly recommend you guys, by the way,
00:41:42.900 throw it into chat, GBT or Claude.
00:41:45.480 It's so unhinged. 0.98
00:41:46.900 It's unabashed schizophrenia. 0.96
00:41:48.460 but let's just start high level with just like some of the now that i'm a zionist again 0.68
00:41:52.100 a secret zionist the zionist behind me they're referring to is my husband uh the proof that they
00:41:58.600 have that he's a secret zionist is they also led with george speaks hebrew so i went to investigate
00:42:05.100 wow this is amazing i'm a lesbian and george speaks hebrew and george is running the show
00:42:09.760 so he's this he's the zionist that's behind everything ta-da i actually love israel and
00:42:14.500 I'm just waiting until I'm president of the United States to tell you guys that I'm secretly
00:42:19.320 working with Israel. Reality, of course, is that George majored in theology, as you guys know,
00:42:24.500 at Oxford. I've told you this ad nauseum. And as a part of that program, you're given two options.
00:42:29.940 You either have to take ancient Hebrew or you have to take ancient Greek. You have to do it.
00:42:36.240 So George chose ancient Hebrew and he did well. He had to learn it, not to be confused with modern
00:42:42.540 Hebrew, ancient Hebrew, and his first year, he got a first on his exams. He's really proud he
00:42:49.180 got a first in that, by the way. Okay, so I guess this is it. He's the hand that's manipulating
00:42:54.560 everything because he's interested in theology. On the opposite side of the pond, I'm guilty of
00:43:00.300 the same thing. So this whole thing started because I was like, this is so unhinged.
00:43:04.820 Secret sex tape. Please, somebody drop it. Drop it. It doesn't exist. It's just so crazy. 0.97
00:43:09.200 So I was a sophomore in college when we had to do a final project in journalism class.
00:43:14.280 You guys know how this goes.
00:43:15.300 You have to, it's always just practicing like your editing skills.
00:43:18.100 You have to put together a story, edit.
00:43:20.040 They give you some sort of a prompt.
00:43:21.760 And in my class, we were spotlighting epidemics.
00:43:24.480 It literally, it's a final, similar to George.
00:43:27.040 It's a final.
00:43:28.160 And we are working on our camera skills.
00:43:30.920 And so I picked the Adderall epidemic in college campuses.
00:43:34.980 And I made an absolute banger, hilarious video, which, of course, you would upload on YouTube to send in the link as your final.
00:43:42.940 Well, apparently that got hacked or discovered or found.
00:43:46.580 And that's going to get interesting in a second.
00:43:47.800 And the most hilarious part is that these people are so not thorough that they're going to use this as the basis to say that I'm a lesbian.
00:43:56.020 They don't know. They never make the connection.
00:43:57.540 You can ask Claude. There's nothing there's nothing of substance here.
00:44:00.220 but they use this as the basis and they pretend it's completely i have no access to this account
00:44:05.340 obviously this is 20 years old that um i'm scared and trying to hide this we actually put the video
00:44:11.340 in the description if you're watching this on youtube you should watch it it's hilarious i
00:44:14.680 think i'm a star early on youtube star candace does this project so they find this video
00:44:19.840 and then they find a flicker account that has photos of me in it certainly is my entire album
00:44:27.800 which was on my Facebook of me at a birthday party in 2015, my birthday party with my family
00:44:34.560 and friends. They also found that I had a Twitter account in college that I've regularly said I
00:44:41.280 wish I could get into because it's so funny. What is wrong with this account? I'm going like,
00:44:45.080 what is wrong? And then that's when I was like, OK, now they're getting crazy. They said that I
00:44:48.820 had a what's it called? A MySpace. I have never in my life had a MySpace account. This is not
00:44:54.760 something you can just make up. This is MySpace was in middle school. You can't pretend someone
00:44:58.340 had a MySpace account. There would be so much data out there that you'd be able to pull photos
00:45:02.320 of people. I'd have to be in middle school. And so then they're like, then we started saying that
00:45:07.700 this must be her account and this must be her account. And finally they arrive at Candace
00:45:11.380 Owens. And it's not even a lesbian. I want to tell you, it's the most deranged thing because 1.00
00:45:17.200 the college video, which they missed, this was an oversight, the college video is actually shot in
00:45:24.060 my boyfriend's dorm. So they confirm, basically confirming that I have a boyfriend. This is not
00:45:31.060 URI. This is actually in Massachusetts, my high school boyfriend. I dated him on and off all
00:45:34.960 through college. So this is my sophomore year. He was a freshman and his roommates, like I asked
00:45:39.940 them to play the part in my final. And actually, when I saw the video, I was cracking up because
00:45:43.060 I was like, this is a great memory that I actually totally forgot about. So yeah, we are linking that
00:45:48.760 videos so that you can see it. Beyond that, there's just nothing but the most debased and
00:45:53.760 disgusting profiles that I cannot even show you. They are so disgusting. And the person admits 0.99
00:45:59.240 you can't fact check it. You just got to trust the science that they found this YouTube video
00:46:04.080 of me at my then boyfriend's dorm. And so now I've been exposed,
00:46:11.040 manically posting for the most graphic, disgusting group hookups all across the state of Rhode
00:46:19.220 Island across like four different accounts. This is her. This is her. OK, can we check this 0.90
00:46:23.560 evidence? No, we got it from a data leak, but we can't show you the data leak. This is this is
00:46:27.880 definitely Candace. It's unhinged. Like I would have told them maybe go 50 percent. You know what 0.84
00:46:35.200 I mean? Like it's college. Say that you heard rumors that she hooked up with girls at frat
00:46:40.560 parties or something. She kissed a girl and she liked it. You don't go from, like, a serial 1.00
00:46:46.920 monogamist, someone who's dating her first, like, real boyfriend, and then the radical, disgusting
00:46:53.580 profiles, which they say I maintain to this day, that when I was pregnant with my daughter in 2022,
00:47:00.900 I reactivated my profile, or I last visited my profile when I was pregnant with my daughter in
00:47:06.240 2022. And so I moonlight as a lesbian, but you you can't have the evidence to review. You just
00:47:12.520 have to trust them. That's real. I don't even know what to say to it. It's so deranged and crazy. I
00:47:19.460 just I don't know where they're at. I just think they're just running out of ideas. But here's the
00:47:23.880 part that I found to be the most interesting, because when we were looking into this, we
00:47:26.340 actually were trying to figure out when they started coming up with this narrative, like who
00:47:31.640 hacked into the YouTube, if it is hacked or if I don't know if they created a new YouTube on a
00:47:35.780 account. But the point is, is that this video of my YouTube and my project in sophomore year of
00:47:42.080 college is real. And here's what we found. And it is shocking. Okay. This is actually the most
00:47:46.680 relevant takeaway from this entire scandal. Somebody for the very first time archived this
00:47:53.780 YouTube page. Look at the date. July 9th, 2025. Okay. I want you to remember that. July
00:48:05.460 9th, 2025, somebody lands upon an actual project of mine and archives it.
00:48:13.260 The MySpace account that they're purporting is mine, that is not mine. Look at the date on when
00:48:17.940 they archived it. August 5th, 2025. Now we're going to plot this into the Charlie Kirk timeline.
00:48:31.360 This actually terrified me when I realized this, okay?
00:48:34.080 It's just giving, like, the Andrew Colbert
00:48:35.940 it was supposed to be you thing.
00:48:40.000 July 9th is when Bibi Netanyahu was in Washington, D.C., okay?
00:48:46.940 It's the same day that they archive somebody.
00:48:49.660 Somebody archives a college video that's two decades old, okay?
00:48:54.820 The next day, we know that Turning Point USA reaches out
00:48:57.820 and the president says that they're being vague,
00:49:00.480 but they just want an event in the courtyard.
00:49:02.020 They're being vague.
00:49:02.800 Are they being vague because Candace
00:49:05.360 is going to potentially be back on tour with Charlie?
00:49:08.920 I don't know.
00:49:10.260 This scares me.
00:49:12.020 What was going on on August 5th
00:49:13.400 when they archived this?
00:49:14.820 This created this page.
00:49:20.220 Charlie was in the Hamptons
00:49:21.420 receiving a phone call from Bibi Netanyahu
00:49:23.900 offering to take Turning Point USA
00:49:27.380 say to the next level, but we don't know in exchange for what. We just know that Charlie said no.
00:49:37.780 And who do you think was among the first to retweet this absurd, schizophrenic, crackhead, 0.92
00:49:48.960 zero percent true narrative that I was running lesbian accounts while I had a full-time boyfriend 0.93
00:49:56.140 that I was obsessed with
00:49:57.140 who was in a high school relationship
00:49:58.080 in college.
00:49:59.580 Who do you think?
00:50:01.020 Bill Ackman.
00:50:02.580 Bill Ackman.
00:50:04.520 He writes,
00:50:05.220 X is incredible.
00:50:06.900 Where the world's experts gather
00:50:08.780 and share their knowledge
00:50:09.780 and interesting on Candace Owens.
00:50:12.360 The plot thickens.
00:50:14.920 Bill Ackman has since deleted this tweet,
00:50:16.520 but not before we grabbed it.
00:50:18.040 And he's retweeting another person
00:50:19.520 who actually confirms
00:50:20.600 that the lesbian links are all fake,
00:50:22.180 but says that he did confirm
00:50:23.640 that the video is me
00:50:24.800 through AI voice analysis on the YouTube
00:50:27.760 and that he did confirm that the Flickr account is me
00:50:30.740 and you should read through it.
00:50:32.640 He confirmed that George studied Hebrew.
00:50:34.460 I could have told you all of these things, guys.
00:50:35.620 This is nothing that we're ashamed of
00:50:37.100 or that we would hide. 0.80
00:50:39.040 But why is Blackman tweeting that?
00:50:42.240 Blackman, you're a billionaire.
00:50:44.320 We're supposed to believe that your money is not mysterious.
00:50:46.520 Tucker Carlson thinks it's mysterious.
00:50:47.720 He thinks your money is very mysterious.
00:50:49.360 He says, what do you do?
00:50:49.860 He says, you're not that intelligent.
00:50:52.460 You're not that impressive.
00:50:53.160 He's met you.
00:50:54.800 And that's a very weird thing.
00:50:57.560 Billionaires are supposed to be untouchable.
00:50:59.040 That's not where billionaires play.
00:51:01.880 Billionaires are not on X retweeting crackhead feeds
00:51:05.060 about college accounts,
00:51:07.940 about college projects
00:51:10.200 and whether or not George studied Hebrew.
00:51:12.920 What's going on?
00:51:13.420 Why is Bill Ackman in particular
00:51:15.000 interested in this thing that happened to be archived
00:51:18.460 when Charlie was with Bill Ackman?
00:51:23.120 What's going on?
00:51:24.800 I found this to be disturbing.
00:51:29.580 You can check it yourself.
00:51:31.540 You can check it yourself.
00:51:32.740 Go through, like I said, I never am going to tell you information.
00:51:35.680 Go try to fact check this yourself.
00:51:37.360 You will see that the entire narrative is fake.
00:51:39.940 It is being pushed by Bill Ackman, among other people.
00:51:44.480 Of course, Daily Wire, to be expected, they're never going to stop.
00:51:47.680 But like Bill Ackman?
00:51:49.040 he seems very interested in taking down candace owens why bill why why would you why would you
00:51:58.580 perpetuate this i don't find that that i that to be plausible that for the first time that these
00:52:07.520 accounts were archived it happened to be when charlie was going through hell over what was
00:52:15.260 happening with Israel. That timeline is getting too tight. In fact, Ash, if you want to bring
00:52:19.000 that timeline back up, I also want to point out some other stuff. You know, we'll actually save
00:52:23.880 it because we're in overtime right now anyway, but we'll save it until tomorrow, which is because
00:52:28.660 I have contracts that I also want to show you that we have since received. And that timeline
00:52:33.360 is getting very scary. I'm going to be honest with you. The timeline is getting very scary,
00:52:36.960 and it makes you go, what the hell was Charlie going through about his last days? What was going
00:52:41.640 on? Why is Bill Ackman so invested? Why delete the tweet? Why delete it? We'll be right back
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00:54:53.720 Guys, I'm just going to say where it just, it's not possible. 0.66
00:54:56.440 A two-decade-old YouTube video from a college final does not get archived mysteriously in 2025 on the 9th when Bibi Netanyahu's in town. 0.53
00:55:08.380 That's not, mm-mm.
00:55:10.700 We're moving past coincidence here, I think.
00:55:14.660 Top comments from the last episode that we did.
00:55:16.600 Searching for keys writes,
00:55:17.800 UVU did more to prevent this tragedy than Charlie's security team, and they have the nerve to say that they are going to sue UVU.
00:55:23.940 Wild.
00:55:24.220 Yes, a factor in the story is just the arrogance and the narcissism and suing everybody else and never admitting any faults, yelling at people, spewing Bible verses, Bible, biblical proverbs out of, taken completely out of context to make them think that it's, you must accept what we are telling you, even if it makes no sense if we're caught lying rather than exercising any humility and saying, we got that wrong.
00:55:51.100 I'm really sorry. Let me explain what happened. They just get angrier at me. I mean, it's nutty.
00:55:56.780 It really is. I feel like if it were, if I was in those strategy sessions, like I would just be,
00:56:02.760 guys, some humility. Say you're wrong. Stop. Pause. Reflect. I mean, Tucker gave him good
00:56:10.400 advice. Why is Candace your central focus? It's weird. I want to find out who killed Charlie Kirk. 0.77
00:56:17.360 I'm not interested in anything other than clocking you on lies when I'm investigating and realizing that you, for some reason, can't tell the truth.
00:56:30.860 Christina writes, we notice the pain of your investigation is unbearable, yet you march on. God bless you, Candace, what a true friend and truth seeker you are.
00:56:37.260 you know i'm beginning to think that after looking at this timeline and like i said tomorrow it's
00:56:42.740 going to get very dark that uh charlie was an even truer friend in those last days
00:56:49.980 and our unbreakable bond is something like despite all of these people trying to pull me
00:56:56.780 and charlie apart um i don't it wasn't possible and yeah i think as we show you what we have
00:57:05.560 tomorrow and are able to fill out the timeline more you are going to start to see what we see
00:57:10.520 which is none this none of this is coincidence uh want to read some comments quickly i know we are
00:57:18.420 way over time today but top comments uh just from now that are coming in lr nichols writes first
00:57:24.820 time catching alive god bless and protect you and your precious family always candace
00:57:28.280 keep up the great work that you are doing for charlie and for what is right thank you thank
00:57:31.880 you so much um lr nichols thumbelina grace writes candace today is my 63rd birthday i can't imagine
00:57:38.080 a better gift than spending time with you christ is king uh happy birthday and uh yeah 63rd birthday
00:57:44.620 what a blessing what an absolute blessing another year around the sun flame of love writes i do not
00:57:49.600 fear the soldiers for my road is made open to me and if the soldiers come i have god my lord who
00:57:55.780 will know how to clear the route. It was for this that I was born. Jeanne d'Arc, my patron saint.
00:58:03.640 Jeanne d'Arc, hope my French is still terrible. 1429 is when that quotation was uttered.
00:58:11.020 Seven Sheets writes, turning point is going even lower. Should we be surprised? Even in that video,
00:58:14.960 you're talking about the dangers of Adderall. Strengthens our tie to you and truth backfire
00:58:19.020 prayers and faith. Please do watch the video. I think I was a talent. I was cracking up when
00:58:23.780 we pulled up, I was like, oh, this is totally me. I'm like, I remember doing this project and we
00:58:26.940 were, I thought my, my boyfriend's friends were hilarious. They were absolutely hilarious in the
00:58:31.660 video. You know, the editing tools weren't as great in 2008. So give me some credit. Like it
00:58:37.700 sounds a little staticky, but like, it's a part of journalism. You have to do all these stories
00:58:40.780 or whatever. I did a few of them in college. I also remember doing one on tanning beds in salons.
00:58:45.960 That was a group project with my friend, Julia, if I remember correctly. Like there were all these
00:58:49.520 like epidemic sort of things you had to do. And I made mine like obviously funny and arrested
00:58:55.360 a dealer who was selling Adderall. But again, it is in the description. It is in the description
00:59:01.040 of this video so you guys can watch it. And I played a police officer also. Thank you very much.
00:59:07.160 Natty Nicole writes, Tim Dillon is going to have a field day with that article. I predict it'll be
00:59:11.140 the same that he does with Meghan Markle. Yes, that is exactly who I want to watch go through
00:59:16.960 that Vanity Fair article.
00:59:18.640 It's just, he is exactly the right person.
00:59:21.300 You are completely correct.
00:59:23.180 Tim Dillon, you hear that.
00:59:24.540 We are electing you to go through
00:59:25.820 the Vanity Fair article.
00:59:27.140 Flower Powers writes,
00:59:28.180 Erica has unwittingly become 0.97
00:59:29.380 Turning Point USA's number one 1.00
00:59:30.680 most useful idiot. 1.00
00:59:32.080 Somebody should show her 1.00
00:59:32.860 the updated Google Earth images of Gaza. 0.98
00:59:35.060 Miles and miles of dust and ash.
00:59:36.540 The only buildings visible are hospitals,
00:59:38.300 no schools, no green parks, no libraries.
00:59:40.600 I honestly think she's like a blank slate 0.99
00:59:42.400 and all she cares about is fame.
00:59:43.580 And she thinks that it's owed to her
00:59:44.920 and people should make it happen.
00:59:46.680 I mean, she's in D.C. right now, by the way, source on that, which they're going to gaslight me on.
00:59:53.140 Or at least she was yesterday or maybe it was the day before.
00:59:55.600 I have to remember.
00:59:57.000 But and it seems to be that when she's in D.C., the Department of War attacks against me start doubling.
01:00:03.660 They just got to pick a better narrative.
01:00:04.940 I feel like if I was sitting in the room trying to help them come up with something, I would have been like, I don't know, maybe go with drug dealer.
01:00:11.080 maybe i always say i partied after college throughout through new york i would go through 0.84
01:00:17.560 something like that i i would have maybe been like molly raves i just feel like deranged lesbian 1.00
01:00:25.340 posting the most graphic disgusting things by the way the reason why my husband i looked at it and 0.82
01:00:30.940 laughed is they even put a video of some girl who her profile says she's indian because she's
01:00:37.000 probably Indian. The oversight for these clowns. I've talked about this in the podcast, talked 0.99
01:00:44.000 about it in my past podcast, regrets, tattoo regrets. Now I have no tattoo regret because
01:00:49.480 they cannot make fake porn about me unless they know my tattoos. Two of them would have been seen
01:00:55.160 in this shot. And they also were missing a belly ring. I told you guys I was like the
01:01:01.500 went through a little trashy millennial phase. And I'm not proud of that, but I am kind of
01:01:06.380 okay with it now because my husband didn't have to blink it's like well this is this is just not
01:01:11.460 your body like they tried to show a body of a girl whose face wasn't showing but this is candace
01:01:15.400 you can't you can't miss the belly belly ring phase you can't undo that and i've talked about
01:01:20.800 extensively on podcasts so that was also another if you're detail oriented like i am you would
01:01:26.340 have caught that and they missed it so since i was 16 because i talked about how it was a regret
01:01:34.080 because it's so painful to get tattoos removed.
01:01:36.660 It feels like they're just putting you on fire, whatever.
01:01:40.700 Jolin Dreams writes, 0.89
01:01:41.580 you are stronger than all the trash that they throw at you. 0.89
01:01:43.740 The ops against you are military-grade strength,
01:01:45.940 but you have something even stronger behind you.
01:01:47.700 God and the truth, go Max, Candace.
01:01:49.500 Yeah, I'm also just very sure of who I am and who I'm not
01:01:52.520 and that I don't get that,
01:01:55.820 like, it's just so crazy.
01:01:57.380 It's beyond, like, I read the heads,
01:01:58.840 and it's like, do I even have to read this?
01:02:00.560 Like a secret military-based foreign ops,
01:02:03.020 And I do believe that all of this is happening because is exposing a greater evil. And I'm playing a small part in that. And it does feel like we are all kind of united in this understanding. I think by the end of this, we're also going to the black robe mafia is going to be exposed as well.
01:02:18.760 That's the judges and the lawyers that are working on behalf of the state. And you can see that with this ever intention to bankrupt me. I'm not tired. I am not tired. I feel very much how Charlie knew what his mission was. I know what my mission is now. And I also just think that the repetition of how it works, how they pass around the attacks, the same people are involved in every time and trying to echo it and support it. 0.87
01:02:45.400 People aren't dumb. It's not working anymore. And you've lost support. You've got to try something different. Maybe telling the truth? Would that be crazy? It makes everyone think you killed Charlie is what it makes people think. Because there would be no other reason to be this radical, this angry, and to be partnering with such disgusting people on just creating nonsense on the internet that people can fact check themselves and they will learn it's not true. That's it.
01:03:15.400 Zach Costello. Hey, Zach. What's up, Zach? Very good to see you here.
01:03:20.140 Zach writes, isn't Erica supposed to have a double major in political science and international relations?
01:03:25.500 Isn't her master's degree in American legal studies? 1.00
01:03:28.400 She's the CEO of the largest conservative organization in the U.S., but she has no interest in politics.
01:03:33.180 She's, Zach, she's heaven-focused right now.
01:03:37.020 And I just find it to be really demonic that you would ask that question.
01:03:41.720 really demonic. And it's there. There's no other reason that you would expect her to be able to
01:03:47.800 answer any of these questions about international relations and political science, despite the fact
01:03:52.280 that we're told that it's her her degree. So I hope that you see a pastor. Hopefully that pastor
01:03:58.040 is Frank Turek and he will get you sorted. He will get you sorted right away. Alaska Dog Lady writes,
01:04:06.360 wow, I got nothing. I think it was all said in this piece of journalism. God bless you, Candace.
01:04:10.820 we have reached the comedy era of this fake and gay world. St. Michael, defend us in battle. 1.00
01:04:16.320 Truly, St. Michael, defend us in battle. I absolutely love that prayer. I think it's
01:04:20.500 very powerful. We should pray a prayer of protection every single day. We are in a
01:04:25.520 spiritual battle. Charlie understood that. I understand that. You understand that. But also
01:04:29.900 understand that we are winning, which is crazy. That's crazy. We're winning. And all we're doing
01:04:35.420 is telling the truth. We're not playing dirty. We don't have the Department of War behind us.
01:04:38.620 We don't have people on payroll that are working day in and day out to attack anybody.
01:04:43.120 We're just committing ourselves to telling the truth and saying when we're wrong, which it happens.
01:04:47.300 Sometimes we get things wrong.
01:04:48.140 We correct.
01:04:48.640 We pivot.
01:04:49.860 I just there's something that's really beautiful about that.
01:04:52.060 So I don't want you to miss this and all the noise.
01:04:53.900 And don't ever worry about attacks on me.
01:04:55.880 Like we are we are good.
01:04:57.620 I'm just not that concerned. 0.89
01:04:59.800 Although I do like the idea of George Shabbat Shalom, Shabbat Shalom, Hebrew speaking, secretly working for the Zionists. 0.96
01:05:06.540 But we'll see what they come up with next week. 0.96
01:05:08.620 All right, you guys, reminding you that this week, we have Book Club. That's at 4 p.m. Eastern. We also have merch on the website. Easiest way to support us. Somebody get Clara a Standis cup. I feel like Clara deserves that. You can also join the Book Club by going to the website, canastones.com. You can get a... Oh, sorry. Book Club is... Did I not say Friday? What did I say?
01:05:30.060 pregnancy brain be crazy i was convinced i said friday at 4 p.m eastern that's so weird
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01:05:52.440 that we do keeping us independent no there is no secret sex tape blackmail operation going on and 0.63
01:05:58.300 I will not be changing my mind about Gaza being a genocide. I got fired for that. Can you give me 0.96
01:06:03.380 some credit? Like I'm banned from Australia. We can't just, we can't make me a Zionist over the
01:06:07.260 weekend. Okay. That does not work. I want better ideas. And maybe on that note, we should actually
01:06:12.660 end with the video from Where Forbidden on how these meetings are coming together because it's,
01:06:18.960 it hits the nail on the head as always. Take a listen. We're not going to beat Candace on the
01:06:24.780 facts. We need something people can gossip about. Something humiliating. We'll tell everyone she
01:06:30.860 runs an underground casino. Lizard person? Come on, dude. Not cool. What else? She joined ISIS and 1.00
01:06:43.300 fought in the Syrian civil war wait I've got it she licks snizz she licks snizz she licks snizz 0.96
01:06:58.600 let's get to work why do I feel like that's how it's coming together apparently this is the person
01:07:08.160 is like an old school Graper, Andrew Wilson affiliated person. Who knows? Well, we'll see
01:07:14.100 what they have next week, you guys. We will see you tomorrow.