Candace Owens - WE WERE RIGHT! UVU Releases Their Independent Review. ｜ Ep 394

00:00:00 All right, you guys. A lot of emotions going through me right now. Anger. Angry. Very angry. Last year being gaslit. We've been lied to. You've been called wine moms. The Department of War has executed a campaign, an online campaign, paying people to attack every single day, trying to convince us that water isn't wet.

00:00:22 trying to convince us that common sense should be ignored, that Candace is a liar. I mean,

00:00:29 so many, they can't even focus on the stuff that they've been saying over the last year.

00:00:33 We've been committed. I've pointed out things, my experience working for Turning Point USA

00:00:38 immediately told you things that were off about September 10th. They sent the faith leaders.

00:00:44 It's demonic, they said.

00:00:46 Oh, open your Bibles.

00:00:49 The widow, the widow.

00:00:51 Honor the widow.

00:00:54 Well, has the widow been honoring her late husband?

00:00:57 No more talk about the widow, guys.

00:00:59 No more talk about the widow

00:01:00 after this report has become available.

00:01:05 I don't want to hear it ever again.

00:01:07 I don't want to hear any person

00:01:09 try to sell to us this emotional pitch of, oh, Erica, Erica, she's just a widow. No, 0.80

00:01:19 she's conniving. She has allowed lies, okay? She has allowed lies because she is the CEO. I'm a 0.85

00:01:24 chairman. She's not at home taking care of her kids. She's on the road connected to an apparatus

00:01:29 of power at all times. And that power has been sent to attack all of us for refusing to accept

00:01:35 the Charlie Kirk Federal Slop narrative.

00:01:38 And what is so despicable,

00:01:40 what I really want to harp on

00:01:41 right here at the beginning,

00:01:42 because we told you,

00:01:43 we said this report is going to drop.

00:01:45 We told you it was damning.

00:01:46 Actually, Barron Coleman reported it first.

00:01:48 That report was incoming.

00:01:50 And what did they do?

00:01:51 The Kirk family files this very sloppy,

00:01:55 quick, preemptive strike

00:01:57 where they say the security at UVU is to blame.

00:02:00 That means somebody is leaking to them.

00:02:02 But by the way, the report, they knew,

00:02:05 they saw, they read, and they were prepared with the statement. Always doing the same thing,

00:02:10 by the way. They're always expecting us not to read it. You guys know I love to read stuff,

00:02:14 though. I love to read through it. I will take the time to read through every document when it

00:02:20 comes to the Charlie Kirk case, especially. Especially when you have had me in your sights,

00:02:27 and you have come after me, and you have come after those who have supported me,

00:02:31 and you have been vicious. Group chats come after my family, my kids. Yeah. Well, let's go through

00:02:38 it. Let's see what we learn in this report. It is astonishing. I mean, I got to just the timeline

00:02:43 and I could not believe it. I could not believe how right we have been the entire time. And when

00:02:48 I plug this into the broader timeline of what Charlie was going through in his personal life,

00:02:52 your jaw is going to hit the floor like mine did. So let's get started. Welcome back to Candace.

00:03:01 Somebody get Andrew Colvett, Blake Neff, somebody wake up the widow, get the pastors. 0.58

00:03:19 Come on, everybody. Everybody get together. Where's Frank Turek? Where's Frank and Bank Turek?

00:03:23 We're going to yank and bank and Frank our way through this independent review,

00:03:29 which they knew was coming.

00:03:31 Clearly knew it was coming

00:03:33 and tried to get ahead of.

00:03:33 Now, we told you this already

00:03:35 in the background of what was happening

00:03:36 that essentially almost immediately

00:03:39 UVU reached out to a third party,

00:03:42 the Lake Forest Group,

00:03:44 to conduct a review,

00:03:46 a broad review of the security protocols

00:03:47 to see what went wrong that day,

00:03:49 to open up the campus,

00:03:51 open up their police officers,

00:03:53 open up everyone sitting down

00:03:54 with interviews and producing evidence

00:03:55 as to what went wrong on September 10th.

00:03:59 assassination, bigger. You could argue this was a bigger assassination than JFK because of the

00:04:07 ability for the video to have spread globally. People wanted answers, and they basically put

00:04:13 their hands up and said, go for it. Get the answers that you guys are looking for. It could

00:04:19 have obviously been implicated. So we should start with who participated in this review, because that

00:04:24 alone is stunning. Erica's been telling us that she wants to get to the bottom of things, right,

00:04:30 that they want to figure out what happened no matter what the answer is. They're not just,

00:04:34 you know, pushing Tyler Robinson narrative. They're open to other considerations. They just,

00:04:40 she just wants the truth is what she said. She just wants the truth. This would be a really good

00:04:44 thing for the CEO and chairman of Turning Point USA to participate in a third-party review if

00:04:51 you're interested in getting to the truth about maybe how your organization may have played a

00:04:57 role in the security failures that day. Well, we learn who participated on the bottom of page six

00:05:03 and seven of this review. We are told that they interviewed federal, local, county, and state

00:05:09 officials. And we are told that UVU fully cooperated with the review. But guess who did not participate,

00:05:16 you guys. We learned that despite repeated outreach attempts, the project team did not

00:05:22 receive responses from the following individuals or other representatives of their organizations.

00:05:27 This information is included solely to document outreach efforts and to provide transparency

00:05:32 regarding the scope of information available to the project team. The project team reached

00:05:37 out to Brian Harpole, who was identified as the leader of the Integrity Solutions security team

00:05:41 working with Turning Point USA to provide executive protection for TPUSA CEO Charlie

00:05:47 Kirk. The project team attempted to reach Harpole by telephone and certified letter.

00:05:51 The certified letter explained the purpose of the outreach and provided the project team's

00:05:55 contact information. The project team did not receive a response. Neither did I, actually.

00:06:01 We're going to get more into Dan Flood. I mean, I get more into Brian Harpole. Next up,

00:06:05 the project team also reached out to Dan Flood, Turning Point USA's security supervisor. He's on

00:06:11 staff, and Macy Crofts, a Turning Point USA senior field representative. Those two would

00:06:17 know a lot. Flood was identified as the person who coordinated security for the organization

00:06:22 with Brian Harpole of Integrity Solutions. Flood was present at UVU on September 10th

00:06:27 and had a phone and text communication with UVU police chief Jeff Long a few days before

00:06:33 and the morning of the event. And Macy Crofts was identified as a senior field rep of Turning

00:06:38 point usa and she participated online in the major events assessment committee planning meeting that

00:06:45 was held on august 25th regarding the september 10th tp usa event but mysteriously you guys we

00:06:52 learned that neither flood nor crofts responded to phone calls or voicemail messages in flood's case

00:06:58 the project team also sent a certified letter they did not have a current address for crofts

00:07:03 They further contacted senior-level staff members at Turning Point USA in Phoenix, seeking assistance in connecting with Dan Flood and Macy, but the project team did not receive a response to those email and telephone outreach efforts.

00:07:15 We then learned the project team also reached out to the then-head of the UVU TPUSA Club, who had invited Charlie Kirk to speak at UVU.

00:07:24 The project team sought his insights and perspectives regarding planning for the September 10th TPUSA event, but he did not respond to project team's various outreach efforts, which included a certified letter seeking his cooperation.

00:07:39 That really is something Caleb Chillicott, who Erica spotlighted at AmFest, seemingly did not want to help the university that he went to figure out what happened, what went wrong.

00:07:51 how curious. How curious. Lastly, they tell us that a Utah risk management official

00:08:00 had communications with an executive of Turning Point USA and urged that the above-named

00:08:05 individuals who were associated with TPUSA on September 10th cooperate with the assessment

00:08:11 by being interviewed by the project team. There was no response. Now, why is that interesting?

00:08:17 It's interesting not only because of the message that they have communicated to us over and over

00:08:21 again about how they really just want the truth, you guys. But it's also interesting because Brian

00:08:25 Harpole was willing to speak to Sean Ryan on the podcast. He opened up, he was talked about,

00:08:32 why wouldn't you speak to the independent review? If everything you say to Sean Ryan is true and

00:08:37 above board, and we are going to learn that it was not, as I said, but if everything you're saying

00:08:42 is true and you have nothing to hide, Erica, don't come for my employees, I'm sorry, my family,

00:08:50 Don't come for her family.

00:08:52 Well, why don't you tell your family to open up the books?

00:08:55 You did nothing wrong.

00:08:56 They did nothing wrong, right?

00:08:58 No, they all declined.

00:09:00 And yet, Andrew Colbert, Blake Neff, every single day, they're beating the drum,

00:09:04 talking about how transparent they've been, right?

00:09:08 They just want answers.

00:09:10 They spent a year trying to get you answers, and you guys didn't participate.

00:09:15 Let's go to page 10.

00:09:16 This is just going to be an executive summary, but I want to highlight this because you are about to be hit with so much paid propaganda online to lie to you about what's in this document, so much so that you shouldn't even just take this episode.

00:09:29 You should read it yourself in its entirety.

00:09:32 You should read it in its entirety, but I want to highlight the opinion of the project team and its executive summary at the top on page 10.

00:09:39 Scroll down to the blue.

00:09:40 In the middle there, it is the opinion right there.

00:09:43 It is the opinion of the project team, based on our review of all available information, that at no time during the events leading up to the assassination of Charlie Kirk or in its aftermath, did any employee or agent of UVU act in bad faith or in willful and wanton disregard for the safety of others.

00:10:00 With the benefit of hindsight, however, the project team identified several actions, omissions, circumstances, and institutional practices that warrant attention as UVU considers how to strengthen the safety and security of campus events in the future.

00:10:13 So they are saying, this is our summary. Contrary to what Erica tried to very quickly, the Kirk family tried to quickly file, our assessment is nobody at UVU acted in bad faith or in disregard for the safety of others, but we are going to make some suggestions for the future of how they could learn and strengthen the policies that are already on the books.

00:10:36 Okay. Now, I want to talk also about this major events assessment committee. Actually,

00:10:45 yeah, let's go to page 11. I've been telling you guys about this. There was this Microsoft

00:10:50 Teams meeting that took place. They have assessed on page 11 that this did take place,

00:10:57 but it was Turning Point USA that wanted to have this event outside. We're going to talk more about

00:11:03 that. The MEAC, that's the Major Events Planning Committee. And we're going to learn that Turning

00:11:11 Point Security did not take place in this, but it tells us here that the MEAC process was initiated

00:11:18 on August 21st to determine whether or not the event should proceed and to identify security

00:11:23 concerns. However, several key event security decisions were deferred to Turning Point USA's

00:11:29 field representative, even though UVU staff members raised concerns, including concerns related to

00:11:35 holding the event in the outdoor fountain courtyard area and using Turning Point USA's

00:11:41 ticketing process. Turning Point preferred to hold the event in the fountain courtyard and to use its

00:11:46 own ticketing system rather than the university system. Those decisions placed the event in an

00:11:52 area that was more difficult to control and limited UVU's ability to obtain reliable real-time

00:11:58 information regarding anticipated attendance and crowd size. Because the event was held on UVU's

00:12:04 campus, UVU should have retained decision-making authority over key security-related issues,

00:12:10 including the venue selection, the ticketing and access control, and other conditions that

00:12:14 were necessary to support campus safety. Okay. I want to park that in the back of your mind, okay?

00:12:21 Let's go to the timeline on page 17. I love a timeline. They put together a timeline, and this,

00:12:25 I could not get over the first entry on this timeline.

00:12:28 You will recall, you will recall that very shortly after Charlie's assassination, I said, this event came together too quickly.

00:12:38 Something is not right.

00:12:39 And we were having a very hard time determining who requested this event.

00:12:42 You remember they sent out Ali Stuckey, who has never headlined a tour with Charlie Kirk.

00:12:47 She shares an ex-correspondence between her and Andrew

00:12:51 putting together an event last second for this exact tour

00:12:54 as evidence that I'm somehow lying.

00:12:57 I mean, what an absolutely terrible human being this girl is. 0.88

00:13:01 I'm truly like, I'm so sickened.

00:13:03 I was so angry thinking through the amount of people

00:13:06 that Charlie has helped in their career

00:13:07 and how quickly they turned their back on him.

00:13:10 So I noted to you, I said, who requested this event?

00:13:13 Because the way it normally works

00:13:14 is every single Turning Point USA chapter,

00:13:19 separate from National, 0.95

00:13:20 wants Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens,

00:13:23 they want you to come to their campus.

00:13:26 So they put in a request to Turning Point National

00:13:29 and Turning Point National does their best.

00:13:31 And typically the consideration is,

00:13:33 has Charlie done this university in the past?

00:13:36 How big is this university?

00:13:37 How is the club performing?

00:13:39 They're also rewarded on the basis

00:13:40 of how the independent clubs are performing okay.

00:13:44 this year, you're going to get Candace, you're going to get Charlie Kirk, you're going to get

00:13:48 this speaker, you're going to get this speaker. How can we divvy it up? Are the headliners available

00:13:53 on those certain dates? And it is a process that takes place, as I said to you guys,

00:13:59 the semester before, at a minimum, at a bare minimum, because the wait list is long. Of course,

00:14:06 every chapter president wants to host them. And I said, something is not right about how this

00:14:11 event came together. Lo and behold, we finally get an answer. Let's go to the timeline. I'm

00:14:17 shocked at this entry. We learn that on July 10th, 2025, at the request of Turning Point USA's

00:14:27 field representative, that's Macy Crofts. That means this was a complete flip. Turning Point

00:14:35 USA reached out to a club and president and said, hey, we want you to put in a request for Charlie

00:14:43 to speak in the courtyard. This is massive. OK, I cannot say to you enough. I cannot underscore

00:14:50 enough how massive this revelation is. This is not how events come together at Turning Point USA.

00:14:58 They don't say you put in the request and we want it in the fountain area. And let me tell you how

00:15:03 insane this is beyond that. They included Caleb's email in here. Caleb's email requesting,

00:15:12 Caleb Chillicott, the club president, requesting this event, and he didn't even know why he was

00:15:17 requesting it. Stunning. Now, if you guys don't mind pivoting, let's go to page 39 where we can

00:15:23 actually, or it might be page 40. I think it's page 39 where we could actually read. No, 40.

00:15:29 give me 40, page 40, the email. I think that's important for us to pivot to.

00:15:35 Here it is. This is the verbatim email from Turning Point USA, UVU's club president to

00:15:43 UVU Club Services. He wrote to them, my field representative for Turning Point USA has asked

00:15:50 me to reach out to UVU club department to ask about availability on hosting an event on the

00:15:56 courtyard on September 10th from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. She, referring to Macy Crofts, is being quite vague

00:16:04 on what this event is. So unfortunately, this is all the information I have in regards to it.

00:16:10 Are you able to tell me if this space, so she wanted it in the courtyard, Macy Crofts, it has

00:16:16 to be in the courtyard, doesn't tell much else. Can you let me know if this space is currently

00:16:21 available for the date and time headquarters came to a club president and said contact them

00:16:31 immediately see if this space is available and it's got to be in the courtyard i'm like i i can't

00:16:39 explain to you like i'm like on the brink of tears realizing this i told you there was something

00:16:46 suspicious about how this event came together. That right there is suspicious. Just do it. Just

00:16:52 email and see if we can be in the courtyard. He doesn't even know what's going on. She's being

00:16:55 vague. Why is she being vague? Why is she being vague? I have an idea why she might have been

00:17:00 being vague, but I'm going to show you the Charlie Kirk timeline of what's going on in his life

00:17:05 after we get through this. Let's go back up to that timeline, if you guys don't mind.

00:17:09 the timeline on the bottom of page 17.

00:17:14 I mean, on page 17.

00:17:16 Okay, so that's July 10th.

00:17:18 On July 18th is when he formerly,

00:17:22 maybe he got more details from AC,

00:17:24 submits an event request.

00:17:26 And the event is described as an appearance

00:17:29 by Charlie Kirk to discuss current events.

00:17:31 And that ticketing is going to be handled

00:17:33 by Turning Point USA.

00:17:35 It's going to be external.

00:17:36 The university will not have oversight over it.

00:17:39 On July 28th, the club's office advises that Turning Point USA's club and annual registration had to be completed.

00:17:47 So they came back to them and they said, actually, you haven't even submitted your annual club form, so you're not officially a club yet.

00:17:55 So they got that done in the back end.

00:17:57 So the event has not been approved.

00:17:58 They are just suggesting that they want to do this event.

00:18:01 And then after they submit that registration on August 21st, the club's office tentatively approves the event.

00:18:08 They forwarded it to event services as a major event. 1.00

00:18:11 So M-E-A-C is going to have to get involved. 0.99

00:18:15 And at that time, in response to UVU's questionnaire,

00:18:18 TPUSA told them it was going to be 600 attendees.

00:18:21 That's going to be relevant later

00:18:22 because when we say TPUSA,

00:18:25 we mean once again, Caleb Chillicott had no idea

00:18:27 what was going on,

00:18:28 which means he was not in control of ticketing.

00:18:31 That is also unusual, okay?

00:18:34 turning point usa national is handling the registrations we're going to learn that

00:18:39 elsewhere in this document they say on august 21st it's going to be 600 and then they offer

00:18:47 to connect uvupd with turning point usa security said that they had no risk factor for safety

00:18:54 or security and so on august 21st event services then emails everyone that's required on their

00:19:03 and to attend the major events committee meeting.

00:19:08 And that is when the first time,

00:19:10 now it's been approved tentatively,

00:19:12 that Jeff Long, the chief of police at UVU,

00:19:15 became aware of the event.

00:19:17 Now he is a crucial name

00:19:18 because they have been throwing so much dirt on his name

00:19:21 that when I got through this document,

00:19:23 I don't see how he doesn't sue.

00:19:25 I would sue not just Turning Point USA,

00:19:27 I would sue the university for allowing this narrative.

00:19:31 I mean, Brian Harpole is out there saying that, oh, this is the text message.

00:19:37 You've got them saying security failed.

00:19:40 Erica is filing a thing.

00:19:41 They're pointing.

00:19:42 I'm pretty sure she explicitly named Jeff Long in that filing.

00:19:45 By the time you get through to this, you're going to be like, I cannot believe the audacity

00:19:49 of that. 0.85

00:19:50 And you just have to be a sociopath to want to ruin this person's life knowing what you 0.91

00:19:55 knew. 0.96

00:19:56 Okay.

00:19:57 Right. Turning Point knew that it was them that orchestrated every aspect of this event.

00:20:02 Turning Point headquarters. This was not a slip up even on the chapter.

00:20:06 So I am saying Caleb Chillicott did nothing wrong.

00:20:08 OK, he's a chapter president. Headquarters is telling him what to do.

00:20:12 He's at an age where he's young and dumb and he wants to be favored. 0.99

00:20:16 Right. Oh, a little stroke on Eric is going to bring you on stage and give you an award. 0.99

00:20:22 He's an idiot. Maybe that's the worst thing he's done. He's an idiot. 1.00

00:20:25 He's a useful idiot for Turning Point USA headquarters. 1.00

00:20:30 But Jeff Chief Long? 1.00

00:20:32 Yeah, by the time you get through this, you're going to be thinking he should sue Turning Point USA for allowing for an entire year for people to think that he was the reason.

00:20:42 That's explicitly what Brian Harpole said.

00:20:44 What am I supposed to do with that?

00:20:46 UVU police did this.

00:20:47 They did that.

00:20:48 Well, now we have an independent review.

00:20:51 Let's keep going here.

00:20:52 so we now know this is the first time he finds out August 21st and then you get this entry here

00:21:00 which is that instantly this was flagged by UVU they have a free speech committee and they flag

00:21:07 it because they say we're going to anticipate protests and they have reviewed insights from

00:21:12 prior turning point appearances including an appearance of Charlie Kirk at UVU in 2019

00:21:17 with me, by the way.

00:21:19 That was with me.

00:21:19 And we did have protesters.

00:21:21 And me and Charlie sat on the floor

00:21:23 and went through the protesters.

00:21:24 So they're going, we expect some action here.

00:21:26 That's UVU that's saying that.

00:21:29 Not turning point security.

00:21:31 Then they have this mysterious entry

00:21:33 that Brian Harpole stated

00:21:34 in a public podcast on Sean Ryan

00:21:37 that he first had a meeting on September 10th.

00:21:41 And that's when they started getting things together.

00:21:44 Remember the Sean Ryan interview.

00:21:46 But guess what?

00:21:47 UVU has no idea what he's talking about.

00:21:48 We're going to learn about that.

00:21:49 They have no idea what he's talking about

00:21:50 because they weren't involved.

00:21:51 The committee meeting,

00:21:52 the Major Events Assessment Committee meeting,

00:21:54 which happened just four days

00:21:56 after Jeff Long learned about this,

00:21:59 took place on August 25th.

00:22:01 Guess who didn't attend this meeting?

00:22:03 Not a single member of Turning Point Security

00:22:05 attended this crucial meeting.

00:22:07 But they tell us what happened.

00:22:10 UVU participants raised concerns

00:22:11 about the outdoor courtyard location

00:22:13 that Macy insisted on,

00:22:15 the anticipated attendance,

00:22:16 the protest activity, the crowd management, the ability to control access. This is the meeting

00:22:21 the security should have been a part of. And Macy said, no, we want the event to remain in the

00:22:27 Fountain Courtyard, despite the concerns and suggestions of alternative venues. Turning Point

00:22:32 preferred that from the beginning. They didn't have a plan to even know what they were doing,

00:22:35 but they did know that it needed to be done in that Fountain Courtyard. Okay. TPUSA advised UVU

00:22:42 that it would have approximately eight security personnel.

00:22:46 And at that moment, and again,

00:22:47 they spoke independently to other people on the phone.

00:22:49 They've conducted interviews.

00:22:50 This has taken a year.

00:22:52 Chief Long requested contact with that security leadership.

00:22:55 So Chief Long is requesting on August 25th,

00:22:59 we are now T minus 15 days.

00:23:02 And where's the security contacting him

00:23:06 and asking about specs?

00:23:08 We continue.

00:23:09 we now learn that on the 25th the venue selection remained that's obviously crucial that there was

00:23:19 going to be no control in terms of protest activity crowd management and access control

00:23:24 i mean there just there was no controllability uh but that's what turning point wanted then we

00:23:29 learn that the free speech committee discussed possible eoc activation again that's all happening

00:23:34 during that meeting. And then on the 27th is when it's formally approved. And that's what I was

00:23:40 saying is that they were not promoting this event. Everything was happening weekly in the day. It's

00:23:46 insane that 3,000 people attended. And it gets approved. They start monitoring complaints and

00:23:53 concerns on August 29th. The Free Speech Committee really went above and beyond here.

00:23:57 And they had an anonymous caller that demanded that the event be canceled.

00:24:01 canceled. UVU President Tuminez requested updates regarding event planning on the 31st.

00:24:07 The Free Speech Committee kept monitoring that activity. Notice we're not seeing anything about

00:24:11 what Turning Point USA was doing here. On September 2nd, Chief Long goes, hey, man,

00:24:17 we're a week away from this event. And I've received no security requests from Turning Point

00:24:23 USA. I saw a point of contact. We had the MEAC on the 25th. Nobody was on that from

00:24:31 security. We just had Macy Crofts. Hey, can I get a point of contact on their security team? 1.00

00:24:38 And then finally, finally, we learned that on September 3rd, T-minus seven days from the event,

00:24:44 for the first time, Dan Flood and Chief Long get on the phone for just five minutes and 28 seconds.

00:24:51 And Chief Long asks Flood what Turning Point USA needs. And Dan Flood is focusing on,

00:24:59 as I told you, the arrival, the departure, and the parking logistics. They were really concerned

00:25:07 about Charlie's SUV having a clean exit. And then he told him that Turning Point will typically have

00:25:12 anywhere between eight and 10 security personnel. And they had a follow-up call, which lasted just

00:25:18 48 seconds on the same day, on the third. And Chief Long and Dan Flood were talking about ticketing.

00:25:25 And guess what Dan Flood says?

00:25:26 He says, national office is handling ticketing.

00:25:30 Tickets totals are not available.

00:25:32 We can't tell you anything.

00:25:33 T-minus seven days, we can't tell you how many people are going to come here.

00:25:36 And so how could Chief Long be prepared for a crowd?

00:25:43 The last update he's been told by Turning Point National is that it's 600 people.

00:25:48 And Dan Flood, the chief security person, is telling him, yep, sorry, that's it.

00:25:55 We don't have, we have a, we got nothing.

00:25:58 Got no updates here.

00:26:00 Okay.

00:26:02 We now have, we're looking at another key decision point.

00:26:08 On September 8th, TPUSA Security is now concerned about,

00:26:14 what do they say?

00:26:14 The pedestrian walkway access above the area

00:26:19 where Charlie Kirk's canopy was to be placed.

00:26:21 And this, my friends, is why I think Turning Point USA executives are, I mean, it's just like you want to talk about demonic possession. You have kept up this lie. You allowed Brian Harpole to tell this lie. And Erica reinforced this lie in that recent filing that the Kirk family reinforced this lie in that recent filing that this text communication between Dan Flood was not about the canopy, but more broadly speaking,

00:26:50 was about rooftops.

00:26:53 And I told you from the beginning,

00:26:54 this was a lie that Brian Harpo was telling.

00:26:56 He was not only lying by omission,

00:26:58 by pretending these were his messages.

00:27:00 What am I supposed to do with that?

00:27:02 He says to Sean Ryan, nothing,

00:27:04 because it's not your text message.

00:27:06 It's a communication between Dan Flood

00:27:08 and a communication between him and Jeff Long

00:27:13 about particularly, amazingly,

00:27:15 the two things they're concerned with

00:27:17 is a clean exit for Charlie.

00:27:18 Charlie's vehicle and what's happening above Charlie's head.

00:27:24 The exact, ironically, that's going to be where people would reasonably see someone on

00:27:30 Pelosi Center.

00:27:31 They want that clear and they want a clean exit.

00:27:35 That's it.

00:27:39 We are told that Dan initiated that text exchange on September 8th.

00:27:43 T minus two days regarding, again, the accessibility of that canopy area above the Hall of Flags.

00:27:51 And that is when Jeff Long said, we got you covered in reference to, they make it clear, the Hall of Flags Outdoor Pedestrian Walkway.

00:28:04 Free speech committee still monitoring.

00:28:06 They're still doing their job.

00:28:07 I give the free speech committee an A++, by the way.

00:28:11 And then we now have incident day.

00:28:13 Now, I'm not going to get into the emergency response.

00:28:16 That's a huge part of this report.

00:28:18 And I want to make sure that I have time to separately go through that because some of

00:28:22 it's irrelevant.

00:28:23 They're making recommendations about what could happen in the future.

00:28:25 A lot of it is not relevant to what we are trying to figure out, which is what took place

00:28:29 on that day and which should have been told to us from Turning Point USA.

00:28:33 Right.

00:28:35 So we're now incident day on September 10th.

00:28:36 And we learn that Chief Long contacts the Utah SIAC regarding an anonymous threat.

00:28:46 That threat is a shocking threat that we're going to get into later.

00:28:49 It's a threat about EMPs.

00:28:53 EMPs, what did we learn about EMPs and whose family was super involved with EMPs?

00:28:58 Lori France-Fay, EMPs.

00:28:59 I'm very interested in that 723 AM threat.

00:29:03 We'll talk about that in a bit.

00:29:04 9 AM, the security arrives to campus.

00:29:06 So they've done nothing. They have not been there. They've had a couple of communications the day before with Chief Long, and Chief Long does not meet them until 9 o'clock a.m.

00:29:16 They weren't even trying to come at 7 a.m. to get a lay of the land. Nothing. At 9.04, Dan Flood texts Chief Long advising that the rest of the security has arrived onto campus.

00:29:26 Chief Long engages in a series of text communications with Flood to include several regarding individuals that are located on that Hall of Flags pedestrian walkway.

00:29:36 They're really concerned.

00:29:37 They don't want anybody up there across from the Losey Center.

00:29:40 Now, you could say it's because they're worried people are going to throw stuff on Charlie's

00:29:43 head.

00:29:43 Yeah, that's reasonable, too.

00:29:44 That's a reasonable conclusion.

00:29:46 You don't want somebody just above Charlie's head, but that's their main focus.

00:29:51 And the text, it says that these text exchanges reveal, we're going to read through them,

00:29:54 that the primary security focus for Turning Point USA was the Hall of Flags outdoor pedestrian

00:30:00 walkway.

00:30:00 We're going to be able to read through those messages.

00:30:02 So there's no question anymore that that was Dan Flood's main focus.

00:30:07 Then we learned, I want to point out 9-28 and 10-28.

00:30:11 Additional Charlie Kirk staff arrive onto campus at 9-28, and then an hour later, additional

00:30:16 Charlie Kirk staff arrive onto campus.

00:30:18 Now, when I read that, it's because they have call times.

00:30:20 So my assumption, and this is me reading into it, is that at 9 a.m., that was the security

00:30:25 call time.

00:30:26 At 9-28, you have some staff, and I don't know what's that going to be.

00:30:31 Is that going to be social media?

00:30:32 But also at 1028, you have additional staff.

00:30:35 My issue immediately, what I'm thinking about

00:30:38 when I look at that is we are told

00:30:40 that Tyler Robinson is going to go up to a girl.

00:30:44 I know it's a girl and I know who the girl is.

00:30:46 And she's involved in social media.

00:30:50 And he's going to leave, he leaves campus by what,

00:30:53 actually like 933 he pulls out of campus?

00:30:56 924.

00:30:58 So unless this girl arrived with security,

00:31:01 at 9.04. I am very interested in determining when the group of girls arrived, because that is

00:31:10 very interesting. If Tyler Robinson has to go up to anybody before 9.28, it's likely just security.

00:31:20 They may have missed this. Now, maybe they did come a little earlier for some reason,

00:31:24 but I just wanted to point that out, that it makes that interesting, that entry interesting

00:31:30 in the Tyler Robinson timeline. Of course, we then know what happens is there's going to be all this

00:31:37 back forth between Dan Flood and Chief Long because, lo and behold, there are some people

00:31:42 that are protesting up there before the event gets started, and they have a communication.

00:31:47 Chief Long requests that the UVU PD detective, along with a sergeant and additional officer,

00:31:54 oh, I'm sorry, the initial UVU PD staffing, including Chief Long, one patrol officer and

00:32:03 one reserve officer, after observing the crowd size. That's a crucial entry at 11 a.m. So it

00:32:08 was actually UVU that requested more people after observing the crowd size an hour ahead. They're

00:32:15 like, well, we were told 600. This looks like it's 3,000. We need to up the crowd size.

00:32:21 Turning Point USA did not request that.

00:32:23 So they're there, they're obsessing things,

00:32:26 and at no point did they communicate,

00:32:27 now that they're in communication,

00:32:29 like, hey, we might need some more people.

00:32:31 We weren't expecting this many people.

00:32:34 It also tells us that at 1049,

00:32:37 Chief Long texted Dan Flood to meet

00:32:40 at the Hall of Flags outdoor at 11.

00:32:44 But the meeting did not occur.

00:32:45 So UVU requested that they have a little powwow before.

00:32:49 It doesn't happen.

00:32:50 and UVU is the one that suggests

00:32:53 after observing the crowd size that day,

00:32:55 which would have been the only time

00:32:56 they could have observed it

00:32:56 because Turning Point USA

00:32:57 was in charge of registration.

00:33:01 UVU is the one that decides,

00:33:03 hey, we should up the security presence here.

00:33:06 That's stunning.

00:33:08 That is damning.

00:33:09 It is contrary to everything

00:33:10 that they have told us

00:33:12 as they have tried to paint it

00:33:13 as though UVU PD is who failed on that day,

00:33:17 failed Charlie Kirk on that day.

00:33:20 So they're telling us who went up to the Hall of Flags and dealt with the protesters.

00:33:24 That's between 11.20 and 11.30, and that the protesters did move away, and then the officers

00:33:31 blocked them off with security tape, which we saw so that they couldn't run over, and

00:33:36 those are the communications that Dan Flood has with him.

00:33:38 Then at 11.30, Chief Long goes up to the second floor of the Fugle Gateway building because

00:33:45 he established a command post, because that building allows them to see everything.

00:33:49 It gives them visibility over the entire event area.

00:33:52 Guess who didn't join him in that command post?

00:33:55 Any member of Turning Point USA's security team.

00:34:00 I'm going to show you where that Fugo building is. 0.61

00:34:05 That'd be a good place to be.

00:34:07 If you wanted to be high up, they take that top floor.

00:34:11 They're observing what's happening below.

00:34:13 That would be a good place to send one of your 12 men

00:34:16 if you were curious what was going on beneath

00:34:19 and you wanted to have a good eyesight line,

00:34:22 but they did not, okay?

00:34:25 We go back into that timeline

00:34:27 and we have, obviously, we know what happens next

00:34:34 is that the person's gonna jump onto the rooftop,

00:34:36 then they say the big bang happens,

00:34:40 they obviously are telling you what happens

00:34:42 just on the surveillance, the dispatch,

00:34:45 And this is the stuff that I'm going to want to actually get into on a later episode so that we can separate Turning Point USA's actions leading up to this from what happened thereafter.

00:34:55 And there's a lot to go over in terms of them saying that when Charlie got to the hospital, there was a fire chief that performed CPR, throws into further chaos various statements that we have heard.

00:35:08 But let's scroll down now to 2.3.

00:35:13 Let's go to the bottom of page 39

00:35:15 where it talks about that meeting that took place,

00:35:20 the Microsoft Teams meeting,

00:35:21 which the security did not partake in.

00:35:29 I'm going to go to that last paragraph.

00:35:33 Actually, you know what?

00:35:34 Let's go to 2.3, yeah.

00:35:35 Let's go to even below that.

00:35:37 During the August 25th major events teams meeting, Macy Crofts, we're going to talk about her more, a senior field representative for Turning Point USA, participated at the request of Turning Point USA.

00:35:49 So again, that's national, okay?

00:35:52 UVU participants raised concerns regarding Turning Point USA's requested location in the large-tiered fountain courtyard near the main entrance.

00:36:00 Concerns included anticipated attendance, potential protest activity, crowd management, and the ability to control access.

00:36:07 UVU officials suggested alternative locations such as the Fulton Library, the Quad, or interior locations where access could be more effectively controlled.

00:36:14 UVU also suggested using the university's ticketing system so anticipated attendance could be tracked and incorporated into the planning.

00:36:22 According to meeting participants, Crofts insisted, they're using the word insisted, on the use of the Fountain Courtyard location because Charlie Kirk had previously spoken on campus and Turning Point USA was familiar with that location.

00:36:36 He also previously spoke on that location with me, and we were not in the courtyard. So I'm wondering if she even told the truth that he had previously spoken or tried to imply that he was in that location.

00:36:51 She said that she preferred that TPUSA manage online ticketing through its national office in Phoenix.

00:36:59 And when certain major events members expressed reservations, including Robin Ebmeyer, UVU's Director of Emergency Management and Safety, the committee ultimately allowed the event to proceed in the requested location and allowed Turning Point USA to manage ticketing.

00:37:17 elsewhere they're going to tell us. The reason for that is because they didn't want to violate

00:37:24 free speech, essentially, that they're in this catch-22 situation because you have to allow

00:37:32 people to protest, you have to allow for free speech of events, and we'll cover that more.

00:37:38 Let's go to 2.4 where we learn straight. This is page 41. We're going to again read this email

00:37:48 and scroll down a bit. Here we go. This is a verbatim. Oh wait, I'm missing an email. Is there

00:38:01 another email? Ah, there it is. No, no, no. That's the club president email. And then there's

00:38:06 another email they had in here. I might have wrote this incorrectly, but it tells us, or maybe

00:38:13 it wasn't an email. Maybe it's just telling us that the questionnaire had been completed. Yeah,

00:38:16 it's under 2.4. So it probably was not an email and I just misremembered whether or not it was

00:38:20 an email, but you can go back to 2.4, which is page 41. Here we go. Pre-event. Yeah. Here. Yeah,

00:38:28 they quote. Here we go. On August 21st, the UVU Turning Point USA club president emailed the club's

00:38:34 office, a completed MEAC questionnaire indicating that it provided answers straight from the TPUSA

00:38:43 team. Headquarters is handling this event. Headquarters is involved. They're telling us

00:38:49 what to write. They're telling us what to say. So when we learn that they declined an ambulance,

00:38:55 my guess is that Caleb Chilicate was just the useful idiot because straight from the TPUSA team, 0.98

00:39:02 they are being told how to complete the questionnaire. 0.99

00:39:06 Straight from the TPUSA team.

00:39:09 600 attendees, primarily student-focused,

00:39:13 some potential public interests,

00:39:15 no risk factors or safety security concerns

00:39:17 or need for emergency medical services.

00:39:22 Straight from the TPUSA team

00:39:26 is what he wanted them to know.

00:39:30 How unusual.

00:39:32 How unusual.

00:39:36 Then we can go to this threat, this obscure threat, bottom of page 42, that Chief Long received on the day of the event.

00:39:51 It says Chief Long also contacted SIAC, and I want to let you guys know what SIAC is.

00:39:57 Let me tell you, I looked this up earlier, but forgot to write down.

00:40:01 It's the Statewide Information and Analysis Center, so they work with that government bureau when they are dealing with cybersecurity threats.

00:40:12 Chief Long contacted SIAC by email at approximately 7.30 a.m. on September 10th to share an anonymous tip to UVU received regarding a potential threat involving an electromagnetic pulse device that a suspect might be using at the event.

00:40:29 chief long was seeking to determine whether any threat related intelligence update was available

00:40:34 regarding the tip long was advised email was the best method to request information from the utah

00:40:40 siac the siac responded shortly thereafter chief long that it was not a credible threat as it

00:40:47 appeared the tipster had provided similar information in the past that was determined

00:40:51 to be unreliable i feel like this is an area that i would like to know more about

00:40:59 This is an area that seems very strange to me, an electromagnetic pulse device that a suspect might use at the event.

00:41:08 I just want to highlight that because I find that to be shocking, random, and perhaps ultimately it is just a crazy person that says that, you know, there's a threat via electromagnetic pulse devices.

00:41:22 But given everything that we have been talking about and my utter and complete disbelief that Charlie was shot with 30-06 from Losey Rooftop and had a miracle Superman neck, I think that that should be explored more.

00:41:39 We elsewhere learn, and we can go down now to read the text message exchange between Dan Flood and Jeff Long, just for confirmation, and it's verbatim.

00:41:53 Dan Flood, right when they are discussing the Hall of Flags walkway,

00:41:59 hello, Chief Long, we received this message today from the student group.

00:42:02 We have gone over this message many times.

00:42:05 Dan Flood was speaking about that student roof access

00:42:08 pretty close to where Charlie Kirk will be set up at Utah Valley.

00:42:12 The Sorensen Student Center has a couple staircases

00:42:14 that go up to the walkways on the roof.

00:42:16 Chief Long asks, do you want access to the roof?

00:42:19 Dan Flood says, I was told students have access above us.

00:42:22 if this is true, it would be nice to either have a controlled access or allow one of my guys to be

00:42:26 there as well as possible. And Chief Long says, I got you covered. And Dan Flood says, thank you,

00:42:31 sir. And indeed, they did have them covered. And then they lied to the public about what they were

00:42:36 speaking about. There's no way a year on that Erica and Turning Point USA don't know that this

00:42:42 was severely misrepresented by Brian Harpole. And they can't make Brian Harpole the fall guy.

00:42:48 You know why they can't do that?

00:42:49 Because their employee gave him the text message to go on to Sean Ryan.

00:42:54 This was not Brian Harpole's conversation.

00:42:57 So there's some coordination happening between Dan Flood and Brian Harpole before he goes on to Sean Ryan that he presents a message that is not his and misrepresents it.

00:43:06 It's like they're trying to keep their distance from this interview, but I don't accept that.

00:43:13 And that's why this is my favorite part.

00:43:14 when we get to the top of page 47

00:43:17 and they start listing Harpole's lies.

00:43:19 I love this because I'm being sued 0.94

00:43:22 for telling you that Harpole is a liar.

00:43:25 And now we have an official independent review board

00:43:27 who's gonna signal that Harpole lied

00:43:29 throughout this interview.

00:43:31 But we're supposed to trust him on Fort Huachuca, guys.

00:43:33 We're supposed to trust him on Fort Huachuca,

00:43:36 but we learned that everything,

00:43:38 virtually everything that he told Sean Ryan

00:43:39 isn't accurate.

00:43:41 Let's go wide on this.

00:43:44 Okay, let's go. I'm sorry. Maybe it's a little further up. It looks like this is in the middle

00:43:47 of it. It starts there. Okay, his podcast interview, right? The project team never

00:43:54 received a response. He let us know. But we did. We were able, like everybody else,

00:43:58 to watch this interview. And we noted that he kind of lied. That means we shouldn't trust

00:44:03 Brian Harpole, guys. We shouldn't trust Brian Harpole now that we learn officially that he lied.

00:44:10 Going to that last paragraph, Harpole stated that his first meeting to discuss September 10th TPSA event occurred on August 24th.

00:44:18 That was one day before the UVU MEAC meeting, during which TPSA Representative Macy Crofts advised UVU of Turning Point USA's preferred venue location and ticketing process, which UVU approved.

00:44:31 Harpole stated that Dan Flood was a security guy for Turning Point.

00:44:33 He said Flood did not share any specific security concerns or threats with him.

00:44:39 During the pre-event planning, Harple stated that Flood would meticulously share any intelligence that he believed was important.

00:44:46 In the podcast, Harple gave no indication that he considered requesting an on-site pre-event meeting with campus police to evaluate vulnerabilities and make security assignments.

00:44:57 Harpole explained that his team was focused on securing what he called the bubble, meaning the area in front of and around where Charlie Kirk would be speaking.

00:45:05 Harpole stated that when he and his team arrived at UVU a few hours before the event, they surveyed the area and believed the venue location was horrible.

00:45:13 Oh, they got there and said it was horrible.

00:45:15 He specifically identified the concern that someone in an elevated position would have a 180-degree view of the area where Charlie Kirk would be speaking.

00:45:24 Harpo described that as ignorant and a security fail, but he acknowledged that Charlie Kirk liked the venue.

00:45:30 Okay. 0.80

00:45:32 Harpo further stated that the venue location was selected by UVU and that UVU told TPUSA, quote, nope, this is where you have to have it.

00:45:43 Well, that's a lie.

00:45:46 So did someone at Turning Point USA lie to Brian Harpo about that?

00:45:49 Or is Brian Harpo lying to Sean Ryan about that?

00:45:52 because now we know that that's just a lie.

00:45:56 They wrote, this was one of the primary reasons

00:45:58 the project team sought to speak directly with Harpole

00:46:01 since this particular statement

00:46:02 and a number of others that Harpole made

00:46:05 conflict with what the project team learned

00:46:08 from reviewing evidence

00:46:10 and conducting numerous interviews

00:46:12 with those who attended the major events meeting

00:46:15 and were present on the day of the event.

00:46:17 Indeed, multiple interviews

00:46:19 that the project team conducted

00:46:20 indicated that UVU had expressed concerns

00:46:23 about the outdoor location,

00:46:24 including during the August 25th MEAC meeting,

00:46:27 but ultimately agreed to Turning Point USA's

00:46:30 requested venue location.

00:46:32 How could Brian get that so wrong?

00:46:33 They sought to clarify that

00:46:35 and he decided to say nothing.

00:46:38 In the very beginning of this,

00:46:40 since July 10th,

00:46:41 it was Turning Point USA,

00:46:43 not even with the plan,

00:46:44 just saying,

00:46:45 Caleb, make sure we get that outdoor venue.

00:46:48 The project team also sought to learn more

00:46:49 about pre-event planning related to the possible use of aerial drones. That was another big area.

00:46:55 During the podcast, Harpole discussed the lack of a drone camera in the air during the event.

00:46:59 He stated that TPUSA's team, video team, used what he described as little bitty drones to take a

00:47:08 quick shot of the venue before the event. But Harpole also stated that although his team had

00:47:13 drones, they did not use them during the event because of FAA restrictions related to the Provo

00:47:19 airspace. But just like we told you guys, that was a lie. You want to know why it's a lie? Well,

00:47:24 the project team's basic research indicated that drone operations are restricted within a five-mile

00:47:29 radius of Provo Airport and Class D airspace, just as we reported on this podcast. Orem is not within

00:47:37 five miles of the Provo Airport airspace. So he lied. He expressed concern that UVU PD did not

00:47:45 have a drone available. Without being able to speak directly with Harpole, it remains unclear

00:47:50 to the project team why, during the hours before Charlie Cook's arrival, Harpole's team and UVU

00:47:55 did not discuss efforts to secure a drone. Oh, they didn't request one. Harpole just sort of

00:48:02 said, I got a drone. I can't use it because of the Provo airspace, which is completely irrelevant

00:48:06 to where we're going. He lied. He lied. It says that if the team had concerns with the venue

00:48:17 location, a drone from the neighboring Orem Police Department could have been requested.

00:48:20 It wasn't requested because it wasn't requested. That's why. Harpo also stated during the podcast

00:48:26 that federal law would not allow his team to post a counter sniper on a roof. However,

00:48:31 However, if that's what he was concerned about, the roofs, then it's unclear why he did not post any members of his team in elevated locations for general security observation purposes.

00:48:42 They're saying, we're not asking you to post a counter sniper.

00:48:48 Yeah, maybe that violates federal law, but how about just getting somebody up high to look at the rooftops?

00:48:54 You didn't do that.

00:48:55 Doesn't seem like the rooftops were your concern at all.

00:48:58 It's a counter sniper or it's nothing.

00:49:01 yeah, he failed to mention that.

00:49:03 That's a lie by severe omission

00:49:05 that he never communicated

00:49:07 that he wanted to be high up

00:49:09 or that he wanted to have observations

00:49:10 of the rooftop.

00:49:13 We also, like I said,

00:49:15 showed you that map

00:49:16 of the Fugle Gateway building.

00:49:17 They had nobody up there, okay?

00:49:20 Elsewhere, we learn,

00:49:22 and this is moving on from Brian Harpole.

00:49:24 This is the bottom of page 48.

00:49:25 And I think this is something

00:49:27 that needs to be explored more,

00:49:28 and I intend to do so this weekend.

00:49:29 We're going to take off Monday.

00:49:31 Um, the bottom of page 48, that officer Bagley was indeed the first to suggest going up to the Losey Center after the Big Bang. And during that initial response, officer Bagley identified the elevated roof area of the Losey Center as a possible source location of the assailant. I find that to be very interesting.

00:49:50 Officer Bagley, whose body cam footage went off, lost the battery.

00:49:56 I don't know.

00:49:57 I don't know.

00:49:57 He just wasn't working, whatever he testified.

00:50:00 He had no body cam.

00:50:01 He was the one that said we should go up.

00:50:02 And then he locates a screwdriver and an area of disturbed gravel on the roof that appeared

00:50:08 consistent with a possible prone shooting position.

00:50:11 It was his quick recognition of the likely shooting position that was significant because

00:50:16 it helped to focus the investigation on the elevated roof area.

00:50:20 It's very interesting. Officer Bagley was the person behind that because we've told you that

00:50:25 he has some interesting history. They all kind of have this background history in sex crimes.

00:50:30 I'm mentioning that again because it's going to become relevant when I show you

00:50:33 what Charlie Kirk was going through in his life at this time. Page 53, we are again told that

00:50:41 Turning Point USA controlled everything, decision-making, ticketing, etc. They impressed

00:50:46 that upon us. We can go to the bottom of page. Actually, let's get it verbatim just so that

00:50:52 there's no dispute here. Let's go to page 53. You're at the right spot, I think. Are you?

00:51:03 Yeah. Great. In the project team's assessment. No, wait. No, you're right. Let's go top of page

00:51:13 53. Scroll down a little bit more, just at the top. At the same time, the preparation process

00:51:18 revealed several important gaps. There was limited time between chief long first learning of the

00:51:23 event and the event date. The security assessment process did not result in documented requirements

00:51:27 for venue modification. The university controlled ticketing, controlled access, credentialing,

00:51:32 screening, or additional staffing. UV did not have reliable access to ticketing or registration data.

00:51:38 coordination with TPUSA security team was very limited and did not include a structured pre-event

00:51:43 briefing or site walking through before or on September 10th between Brian Harpole, Dan Flood

00:51:50 and the UVU PD. Chief Long did not initiate a mutual aid request to the Orem Police Department

00:51:57 or other local public safety partners before the event and additional external resources were not

00:52:02 requested after the crowd size became apparent. There also is not a dedicated assignment for

00:52:09 real-time security video monitoring by UVU PD dispatch personnel or others from another

00:52:13 operational location during the event. And so this is when they jump into all of their

00:52:18 suggestions about how these are ways they can update things in the future.

00:52:25 I do want to point out the bottom of page 1661 because then we learn that Turning Point never

00:52:29 actually issued any tickets, which is, by the way, I will say common because they just tell you that

00:52:34 you have to register for the event. So they did not require tickets at the actual event. Why would

00:52:39 they if there's no traffic control? They just allowed people to freely register, again, handled

00:52:45 entirely by Turning Point USA National and not communicated to the police. But it calls into

00:52:51 question the wristbands that were given out. The review states that there was no formal credentialing

00:52:58 process for VIPs. They had somebody from Turning Point National handing out wristbands to people

00:53:09 that were sitting in the section to the right of Charlie and learning that there was no ticket

00:53:17 verification, there was no credentialing, there was no screening, there was no designated entry

00:53:21 exit points. There were no restricted access areas. I'm wondering how on earth there could

00:53:30 have been people that were being given wristbands. That is a question that I am just opening up

00:53:34 because that makes no sense to me. That makes no sense to me that Turning Point National was

00:53:40 handing out wristbands to those people that would come down and be by the car. A lot of people,

00:53:45 by the way, who recorded footage in particular, a lot of people, the same crowd of people who

00:53:50 are speaking to the press thereafter.

00:53:53 I'm wondering why those wristbands,

00:53:56 who those people are,

00:53:57 if UVU is saying that

00:53:58 they didn't have a VIP system,

00:54:00 then that must mean

00:54:01 that somehow National did.

00:54:03 You're not buying tickets.

00:54:04 It sounds like your ticket says,

00:54:05 I bought a VIP ticket.

00:54:07 You're just registering online.

00:54:09 That is a question

00:54:10 that needs to be answered.

00:54:12 That is odd to me.

00:54:13 And it's something

00:54:13 that I pointed out early on.

00:54:14 I said, what are these wristbands?

00:54:16 What is this about?

00:54:19 We're going to find out.

00:54:20 Now that we have gone through this, you guys, I want to now input it into the Charlie Kirk timeline in terms of what he was going through, because I think it will send a chill up your spine.

00:54:35 Do a break first. My producer is saying, okay, let's take a quick break first, and then we're going to go through what was going on in Charlie's life and by implementing what we've learned here into our master timeline. We'll be right back.

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00:56:40 So July was a very interesting,

00:56:44 I kept telling you guys, something happened in July.

00:56:48 Something just was going on in July when I started putting together this timeline.

00:56:53 And now we can further fill out this timeline.

00:56:57 And I'm just giving you facts.

00:56:58 Some of the facts are not even relevant.

00:56:59 I just have it on my timeline because I thought it might be relevant, but you should see it.

00:57:04 Let's bring in the Charlie Kirk timeline beginning in July of 2025.

00:57:09 From July 7th to July 9th, BB Netanyahu visits America.

00:57:14 He records podcasts with the Nelk Boys while he's in Washington, D.C.

00:57:17 From July 7th to July 9th, Bibi Netanyahu is in Washington, D.C. 0.50

00:57:23 On July 10th, the very next day after he leaves,

00:57:26 and I want to be clear, Bibi Netanyahu did not kill Charlie Kirk.

00:57:31 He let us know immediately after Charlie Kirk died that he didn't kill him.

00:57:36 So we'll have to take that at face value.

00:57:39 But after he leaves D.C. on July 10th, Turning Point USA headquarters,

00:57:43 Macy Crofts asks the UVU club president to pull together an event and the club president has no

00:57:49 idea what that event is but she does know that um he needs to be in the amphitheater so that's

00:57:56 what's communicated by Caleb to the school he needs to be in the amphitheater we don't really

00:58:00 she's being vague he's being vague I don't know what's really going on okay July 11th to the 13th

00:58:07 is the Student Action Summit in Tampa, Florida.

00:58:11 Charlie's first speech is at 4 p.m.

00:58:13 His last speech is concluded.

00:58:15 We should have probably rinsed that.

00:58:17 The tail number doesn't matter.

00:58:18 It's not associated anymore,

00:58:18 but we should delete that anyways.

00:58:21 I'll just cut that in post.

00:58:23 Tucker Carlson on the 11th speaks

00:58:26 and donors freak out.

00:58:30 Charlie tells him to go max.

00:58:31 He calls out Jeffrey Epstein in particular

00:58:33 because that's what Charlie is hitting, by the way.

00:58:35 Every day on his podcast,

00:58:37 he is calling for the release of the Epstein files.

00:58:39 He asks Megan to speak about it.

00:58:41 He asks Tucker Carlson to speak about it.

00:58:43 He says that, Tucker Carlson says that people

00:58:45 who serve in foreign armies

00:58:46 should be stripped of their citizenship.

00:58:48 And he muses about where Bill Ackman's wealth comes from.

00:58:53 Who is this guy?

00:58:54 Where is his money coming from?

00:58:56 Tucker will later say he doesn't know what came over him.

00:58:58 He just, this is just how he felt.

00:59:00 And Charlie said, go after the Epstein stuff.

00:59:03 on july 11th frank turk deletes his website frank turk.com the website has remnants of an

00:59:10 expedition he took i went on way back machine uh he was looking for remnants of noah's ark

00:59:16 i don't know what that means but just found that to be interesting that he deletes his website on

00:59:20 july 12th according to the new york times president trump calls charlie angry and scolds him about his

00:59:25 event the day before and that he had turned in he had turned sass into an epstein grievance fest

00:59:33 so charlie's pushing the epstein stuff on july 14th charlie kirk goes on a show and he says he's

00:59:40 going to stop covering the epstein story and just trust his friends the administration he is under

00:59:45 pressure to stop speaking about jeffrey epstein uh do we have that clip sky let's play that clip

00:59:52 Plenty was said this last weekend at our event about Epstein.

00:59:56 Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being.

00:59:59 I'm going to trust my friends, the administration. 0.86

01:00:01 I'm going to trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it, balls

01:00:05 in their hands.

01:00:06 I've said plenty this last weekend.

01:00:08 So if you guys want to see my commentary on it, that's fine.

01:00:11 We have escalatory action potentially being taken in Ukraine and Russia.

01:00:16 We have tons of announcements happening when it comes to NATO.

01:00:19 But let me just say this again.

01:00:21 Everyone knows my opinion about the Epstein thing, the messaging fumble.

01:00:25 I would love to see the DOJ move to unseal the grand jury testimony.

01:00:29 I think that would be a big win.

01:00:31 I would love to see that.

01:00:32 And I'm going to trust my friends, Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, my friend, Pam Bondi, all these

01:00:37 guys, I'm going to, Todd Blanch, I'm going to trust them to solve it.

01:00:40 Ball's in their court.

01:00:42 I think that there was plenty of, let's say, speeches that were directed towards this topic

01:00:48 this last weekend.

01:00:49 So we don't need to spend our valuable time on this program, relitigating it.

01:00:57 Charlie is saying, I went max on F scene at SAS and I, we learned later, thanks to Tucker and

01:01:03 Megyn Kelly, that that was his intention. He wanted that out there. He wanted to hit hard

01:01:07 and he wanted to pressure and he played, you know, obviously paid dearly for that.

01:01:11 He says he's going to trust his friends to investigate. Okay. Let's go back into the timeline.

01:01:17 they said president trump gives him the call okay he says on his show he's going to stop

01:01:21 covering the epstein story on the 14th erica travels aboard a private flight to long beach

01:01:25 california um and she speaks at james caddis's calvary chapel church that's the james caddis

01:01:33 um you see him rolling with her to the court hearing she he's the one that she does the show

01:01:39 with and he is radically pro-israel radically pro-israel she gives a speech at his women's

01:01:48 summers of psalm retreat and she says bizarrely i said i'm writing bizarrely that she gives a

01:01:53 speech that's pro-israel about a call to arms despite what charlie's going through that's why

01:01:57 it's bizarre because you know the pressure that your husband is under donors are pulling out money

01:02:01 threatening him the president united states has called him and he's going max against the epstein

01:02:06 stuff and she's like just giving a speech that's i would say pro-israel then on july 18th that's

01:02:14 when the formal request came in from turning point usa to hold the event because they had to up their

01:02:20 club um annual administration and so they did that and then we have our egyptian planes that

01:02:30 come into Omaha, Nebraska, and then head to Lincoln, Nebraska. And then Charlie vacations in

01:02:39 Maine. And I'll tell you why this is interesting, because it's the first time Mikey McCoy and

01:02:44 Elizabeth join him, and they capture what's going to be Elizabeth and Mikey capture all this final

01:02:49 footage of Charlie and Erica that we're then going to be shown immediately after. It's not old

01:02:52 footage. It's final footage from this trip. She tries to hold his hands. The kids are walking.

01:02:59 all of this beautiful footage,

01:03:01 they must just have an eye for photography.

01:03:03 This is the first time they've done this.

01:03:04 They've all vacationed together.

01:03:08 July 25th,

01:03:11 Y-Refi comes in as the number one sponsor

01:03:14 for a Charlie Kirk fall tour.

01:03:16 That's Lane Schoenberger.

01:03:17 He's going to be there

01:03:18 when Charlie goes down.

01:03:22 His daughter's going to be there as well.

01:03:24 It's odd that he came in as a sponsor

01:03:27 on July 25th

01:03:28 Because he had already,

01:03:30 Y-Reef, I had already signed a contract in January

01:03:33 which covered events through the end of the year.

01:03:38 So he decides to re-up it,

01:03:41 offer Charlie more money.

01:03:43 Let's, hey, let me sponsor a fall tour for you

01:03:46 on July 25th.

01:03:50 What catalyzed this sudden addendum for a fall tour?

01:03:53 If you already had signed a contract

01:03:55 through the end of the year

01:03:56 and you said, I'm gonna do this event,

01:03:57 this event, this event, this event, this event. Why suddenly come in with an addendum and say,

01:04:01 hey, I'm going to give you more cash and I'd like to, you know, get behind your Charlie Kirk fall

01:04:06 tour? I don't know. I don't know the answer. I'm just asking questions. On July 27th, our Egyptian

01:04:15 plane leaves. It's the plane that's going to be there on the day of Charlie's assassination.

01:04:19 he departs wilmington delaware heads back to cairo on august 3rd charlie and erica land in

01:04:27 bedford new york for the hamptons retreat um that's one of the partner egyptian planes that

01:04:33 i have on there august 5th and sit through six the hamptons retreat which charlie will describe

01:04:38 as an intervention and you can go and listen to his comments after this retreat on the megan kelly

01:04:42 show the influencers trip is sponsored by bill ackman the very person that tucker carlson called

01:04:47 that on stage. During that time, Bibi Netanyahu, who did not kill Charlie Kirk, I want to be very

01:04:54 clear. He said it on Fox News, so it must be true. He's killed a lot of people. The IDF has killed a 0.80

01:05:01 ton of kids, but this, he wouldn't do that. No way. And he decides to call Charlie and he makes

01:05:11 an offer, I was told directly by Andrew Colvett to take Turning Point USA to the next level in

01:05:18 exchange for what? Nobody is interested in exchange for what Erica will claim, just to be fair to how

01:05:24 Turning Point has rebutted this privately to me, that he called, but it was just a follow-up to a

01:05:29 letter that Charlie had written him in May. She says there was no offer. She says, no, Andrew Colvett

01:05:33 said that. He was just calling to call. He's not busy, and he just wanted to see how Charlie is.

01:05:39 Okay. What we do know is that he invites Charlie to Israel and Charlie declined to go to Israel.

01:05:48 He also, Charlie also declined to have Bibi Netanyahu on his show.

01:05:50 So it's very clear which way the wind was blowing if he's covering Epstein, hosting people who, like Dave Smith versus Josh Hammer, allowing him to just absolutely destroy Josh Hammer in a debate.

01:06:03 what happens next on august 19th is cash patel visits the omaha nebraska field office i wonder

01:06:10 how often he does that no really i wonder so much that we filed an foia to see who was on the plane

01:06:15 and it came back and said that we have no right to have that information i mean what was the exact

01:06:21 response ashley they told us like that it would are we on a wait list for information or that it's

01:06:28 you'll have to pull it up but we did file an foia request because i thought oh that's interesting

01:06:32 what's going on in nebraska and i wanted to just know who was on the plane

01:06:36 and we were declined that information via an foia request

01:06:41 the exact language that we got back was we cannot confirm or deny the existence of such records

01:06:51 and the records we were seeking was who was on the plane with cash patel

01:06:55 wonderful um august 24th is when brian harpole claims that security began planning for the

01:07:06 event uv was not informed or included in that said planning on the military side of things

01:07:10 operation valhalla strike begins between civilians and the military in minnesota

01:07:16 it's an interesting name valhalla strike coordination between civilians and the military

01:07:23 I wonder what they were doing.

01:07:24 I'd like to know more about that.

01:07:27 Then, of course, as we just went over, on August 25th, the UVU major events meeting took place.

01:07:33 A Microsoft team's Turning Point sent people out to scout a location for their event.

01:07:39 I'm not sure if that's still accurate, but I have it on the timeline for some reason.

01:07:42 I don't have a link there.

01:07:43 The school suggests that they do not see Charlie in the epitheter.

01:07:46 Turning Point insists because of Macy Crofts.

01:07:49 UVU police ask her for a TPUSA security contact.

01:07:53 None is provided.

01:07:54 That's also, we will learn that if you read through the document,

01:07:57 that they requested that from her.

01:07:59 They never got it.

01:08:00 They then had to go back to Caleb and request,

01:08:03 which is what Jeff Long did on September 2nd,

01:08:06 going, I still don't have a contact.

01:08:08 And then finally, Dan Flood calls him the next day.

01:08:12 So that's what went down leading up to September 10th in Charlie's life.

01:08:19 So you're probably interested in Macy Crofts. And this is public information that she was the driver of the bus, so to speak. And she would be working with Andrew Seifer on this. He's the longtime head of the field. He is, I call him one of Tyler Boyer's guys, who was also present on that day.

01:08:42 But you just start to wonder if Charlie's texting people the night before saying that he thinks he's going to die and he's under a lot of pressure.

01:08:50 Why did no one shift this event inside?

01:08:52 In fact, it's noted in those documents that they could have just told him if Brian Harpo got on the ground and said, I don't like the way this feels.

01:08:59 And Frank Turk said, I don't like the way this feels.

01:09:02 They still could have accommodated them, potentially.

01:09:04 They could have moved the event inside, potentially.

01:09:06 They never communicated this to the police at UVU.

01:09:13 So you're like, who is Macy?

01:09:15 And, you know, in the background, I worked on everybody.

01:09:17 I've been working on everybody wanting to just know information about these people because I'm just trying to put together common themes.

01:09:23 And I want to be clear, this thread that I came across has nothing to do with Macy.

01:09:29 You can't control what your family does.

01:09:31 But, you know, when I learned that her father had passed suddenly and that her family was involved in law enforcement in Idaho, I did come across a very interesting case of her uncle.

01:09:46 In June of 2025, I should plot this actually on the timeline, that Macy Croft's uncle was charged for action out of school.

01:10:01 And I want to get these charges exactly right.

01:10:02 Her uncle is Kip Croft's.

01:10:05 A warrant was issued charging Kip Croft's, that's her dad's brother, with sexual abuse of a minor.

01:10:13 The girl was 14 years old.

01:10:14 he was arrested without incident in June of 2025 by Nampa police officers. Nampa, Idaho. Yes.

01:10:23 That is where Erica Kirk just did an event. When he arrived at his job, that's when they

01:10:29 apprehended him. He was accused of touching himself in a classroom while watching explicit

01:10:34 adult content in 2024. And then after, so he gets arrested in June. Then in November of 2025,

01:10:47 Croft's attorney argued for a dismissal, saying that while it was poor judgment for him to do

01:10:52 that and to leave the door unlocked, he was trying to conceal his actions when the minor walked in.

01:10:59 the judge in november had denied that dismissal and said there was

01:11:04 more than enough evidence to send things forward to a grand jury

01:11:08 the minor's testimony said that students regularly left their backpacks

01:11:12 in his classroom they picked them up after extracurricular activities

01:11:16 which he knew so she was going in to get her backpack

01:11:20 and came upon this um what then happened was the canyon county prosecuting attorney

01:11:26 Alana Minton, told the judge that a new piece of information came to light that we had previously

01:11:32 been unaware of. The new information was that the door to Croft's classroom may have been locked at

01:11:39 the time of the alleged incidents. They couldn't establish intent. It would be difficult for them

01:11:44 to prove his intent for a child to see him. So they're not disputing that he was doing what he

01:11:49 was doing. They're disputing the child's version of events and his version of events and establishing

01:11:55 intent. Anyway, he ends up getting this dropped. I'm going to let you listen to the news clips

01:12:01 on this. Take a listen. After months of court hearings and with trials set to begin next week,

01:12:08 the criminal case against former high school football coach Kip Crofts has been dismissed.

01:12:14 I'm a recalled neighborhood reporter Leslie Solis, and I was the only reporter in the courtroom as

01:12:18 prosecutors informed the judge that newly discovered information prevents them from

01:12:23 proceeding with a charge of sexual abuse of a child under 16. What had been headed towards a

01:12:29 jury trial instead came to a halt inside a King & County courtroom on Tuesday. The state is unable

01:12:35 to prove one of the elements of sexual abuse of a minor under 16, even by probable cause,

01:12:43 let alone beyond a reasonable doubt. The case centered on allegations that Crofts exposed

01:12:47 himself while watching explicit material in a Caldwell High School classroom with a 14-year-old

01:12:52 student present. Prosecutors told the court that information uncovered during final trial

01:12:58 preparation changed their ability to establish intent, a required part of the felony charge.

01:13:04 The dismissal in this case is appropriate. It would serve the ends of justice. The judge noted

01:13:09 the classroom was locked, not open, a distinction that directly affects how the intent would have

01:13:15 been evaluated. The state explored whether the case could move forward under a lesser misdemeanor

01:13:20 charge of indecent exposure, but told the court they were not permitted to modify the indictment.

01:13:26 The state makes an oral motion today moving to the court to dismiss this indictment.

01:13:30 That motion was granted, bringing the case to a close before a jury could hear it.

01:13:35 Outside the courtroom, the teen's father, who asked not to be identified to protect his daughter,

01:13:41 said the outcome leaves his family feeling unheard.

01:13:43 We're disappointed in how this was handled, that the truth didn't get out.

01:13:49 They felt my daughter, not me. It's not, you know, I feel like it's not about us. It's about the kids at school.

01:13:55 With the ruling, Croft's no contact order that applied to all minors was lifted. He was released from all pretrial restrictions.

01:14:03 I spoke with Croft's attorney, which he stated his client was never guilty of a crime and the dismissal before trial proves that.

01:14:11 I don't know. I've never dealt with a case in which tangentially there just seems to be so much human trafficking,

01:14:32 allegations of child sex abuse,

01:14:35 allegations that Erica was frequenting the office

01:14:40 that Jeffrey Epstein and his cohorts were frequenting.

01:14:45 I've never, never, ever, ever

01:14:48 could I have imagined this many common themes.

01:14:52 Again, Macy's not involved in this case.

01:14:54 This is her uncle.

01:14:55 But it got dropped on a technicality.

01:14:57 So he's not guilty.

01:14:58 His client, like you said, is not guilty.

01:15:00 It's not about whether he did it.

01:15:01 He did. He's not denying he did the thing. It's about establishing intent. And I guess you heard

01:15:06 it. You have to establish intent. And he says it was locked. And she says that it wasn't locked.

01:15:11 And, well, these things happen in Idaho. Anyway, we'll be right back after a break.

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01:17:10 slash Owens. What did Charlie Kirk find out about his organization in the days leading

01:17:18 up to his death? That's the question that I find myself asking. I'm going to think while it's still

01:17:24 legal i i i am um after reading this report your takeaway should be and you should go read it in

01:17:30 its entirety we're gonna talk more about the security next week because i need to do some

01:17:33 researching on new names that have been introduced and i want to make sure that i can um be 100

01:17:39 about what i'm going to say and that we are accurate in discussing what happened because

01:17:44 there's some very interesting information about what took place with all the coordinating agencies

01:17:48 But your main takeaway from today's episode should be the audacity of Turning Point USA over this last year. The audacity of Blake Neff, the audacity of Andrew Colbert, but most of all, the audacity of Erica.

01:18:04 The audacity of Erica to have a syndicate of pastors, a syndicate of filthy third-rate online trolls attacking us day in and day out for pointing out what seemed to be obvious.

01:18:23 When I said something's not right about how this event came together, now we learn this was just pushed by headquarters. 0.89

01:18:28 The list of TPUSA chapters that request to have Charlie speak be damned.

01:18:33 This has to happen.

01:18:34 We don't even know what kind of event's going to be,

01:18:36 but we know we need the courtyard.

01:18:38 The courtyard's got to happen.

01:18:41 The audacity of Erica Kirk.

01:18:47 I am just so sickened by how much power 0.95

01:18:52 and how much money is behind this.

01:18:54 How much power and how much money

01:18:55 and the audacity of President Donald Trump,

01:19:01 who Charlie did so much for.

01:19:03 was so close to the audacity of the neocons it's becoming clearer and clearer why they are invested

01:19:12 in this israel israel israel israel israel israel israel but to be clear bb netanyahu says he had

01:19:18 nothing to do with charlie's death you should take that at face value and erica is just a widow who

01:19:23 needs your support and the best way to support her is with your hard-earned dollars and i hope

01:19:27 that's what you get out of this i hope what you really get out of this report is that you should

01:19:31 start a Turning Point USA chapter at your local middle school? Because that's where she's doing

01:19:37 the rounds now, at middle schools. Not answering any of these questions. Could there be a rational

01:19:44 answer for why Turning Point USA did not want to participate in what they were already signaling

01:19:51 to the public? They're willing to speak to the press. They're willing to speak to CBS News,

01:19:54 ABC News, official spokespersons are coming out and saying the security did that.

01:20:01 but they were not willing to sit down with an independent review.

01:20:05 They could force Dan Flood to do that because he was their employee.

01:20:09 They didn't do that.

01:20:11 Why did they do that?

01:20:12 Why is it that Dan Flood didn't want to accept the raise and bonus that Erica offered?

01:20:19 If Caleb Chillicott was my kid, he would be participating in that.

01:20:24 I would force him to participate in that.

01:20:27 I would say you will have nothing to do with obscuring anything that went on that day.

01:20:34 Your name is already going to get dragged.

01:20:36 You did nothing wrong.

01:20:37 And I want to be clear, I think Caleb did nothing wrong at all.

01:20:42 He was told what to do by headquarters and he did it.

01:20:46 And I believe Macy was told what to do, likely by Andrew Seifer, who was promoted shortly thereafter to a chief position at the organization.

01:20:54 and i believe that he's always been based on my experience tyler boyer's guy and there were

01:21:01 rumblings early on that money was missing particularly from turning point action

01:21:05 which tyler boyer controls and i heard that from people at turning point usa and i heard it from a

01:21:12 person outside of turning point usa who knew charlie and said that charlie was gearing up

01:21:16 to fire, turning Tyler Boyer, the person who introduced him and Erica. Allegedly,

01:21:24 Mikey McCoy expressed to people that Charlie wanted to fire Tyler Boyer. Well, good news.

01:21:31 Tyler Boyer is not fired because Charlie is no longer here and Erica's in control and him and

01:21:38 Erica go back since before Erica knew Charlie. It's good to have those sorts of relationships.

01:21:45 You just wonder what those relationships are really about.

01:21:48 And I think we have demonstrated that there's a lot of smoke here.

01:21:53 In fact, I'd say this is a fire.

01:21:55 And I do just want to express, before we get into your comments, how positively sickened I am that a man could dedicate so much of his life to platforming so many individuals and all of them turn their back on him.

01:22:10 They're all betraying Charlie day in and day out.

01:22:12 All of those influencers that you see that are lying about things, obscuring, helping participate in the gaslighting of what's happened here, jumping on and saying, oh, it's so crazy.

01:22:21 Anybody would ever have a question about Erica Kirk?

01:22:25 Reading through this document should also sicken you.

01:22:31 Charlie was completely, he is abandoned every day by those people.

01:22:35 Every single day, they don't care.

01:22:36 They care about power.

01:22:37 They care about money.

01:22:38 They care about their next step.

01:22:39 They don't care about the truth.

01:22:39 And guess what?

01:22:40 They will all fail.

01:22:42 Every last single one of them will fail.

01:22:48 I'm gonna get to some of your comments.

01:22:51 U.S. flagpole guy writes, John 14, 6,

01:22:54 Jesus said to him,

01:22:55 I am the way, the truth, and the life.

01:22:57 No one comes to the Father except through me.

01:22:59 I command the truth and protection over Candace,

01:23:01 her family, and those who will not fall prey

01:23:03 of the demonic forces of evil.

01:23:04 In Jesus's name, amen.

01:23:06 Beautiful.

01:23:07 Amen.

01:23:09 Very scary.

01:23:09 Mary writes,

01:23:10 a small EMP could knock out security cameras

01:23:13 for two minutes.

01:23:14 Hmm.

01:23:16 Yeah, the EMP thing's certainly interesting.

01:23:19 And like I said, maybe we learn,

01:23:21 now I want that information,

01:23:22 maybe we learn that it was just a crazy guy

01:23:24 who says that all the time,

01:23:26 but it's a very particular thing to say,

01:23:29 especially when I told you

01:23:30 that the security cameras did go out.

01:23:32 They did go out for a couple of crucial minutes

01:23:36 shortly before Charlie got hit.

01:23:38 seven sheets writes we share your sense of anger and injustice battle button pregs with the boy

01:23:44 prayers and blessings i also hope you feel a wave of indication and the knowledge that charlie always

01:23:48 knew it was you is david we will always demand justice for him keep going max god bless that

01:23:54 makes i don't know why it makes me very emotional but yeah it makes me sad and it makes me emotional

01:23:58 because it's just like you know there were so many people that he helped to uplift in just in

01:24:04 the same way that he did me. And they all just don't care. It's all about money. And they do it

01:24:11 while pretending to be Christians, which is the worst part. Like I said to my husband today that 1.00

01:24:17 I, and I know I shouldn't say this, but I have to express it. And that I hate these people after

01:24:23 reading through that report. I hate these people for the year of gaslighting and the attempted

01:24:28 psychological torture that they put me through, knowing that I was telling the truth the whole

01:24:32 time when I just said, this is not how events come together. Something's not right. Something's

01:24:37 not right. The club president's request, they sit down, there's a meeting, where should we go?

01:24:41 What's on the map? They just gaslit me for an entire year while I was grieving and they weren't

01:24:44 grieving. None of them were grieving. I think in the future they will be grieving.

01:24:56 Tony Hill writes, hi Candice, it's my birthday today and you just made it so much better. I was

01:24:59 so happy when I got off work and saw that you were alive today. I just wanted to say thank you

01:25:03 for that gift and all that you do. I love you. As always, enjoy your weekend. Go, Max. Thank you,

01:25:08 Tony. Have a very happy birthday. And, you know, this weekend I'm going to dedicate myself to

01:25:12 getting further into these documents and mapping out more people and committing myself, as I have

01:25:21 over the last year, to justice for Charlie. Seven Sheets writes, we share, I'm sorry, Pam writes,

01:25:27 Pickles Magoon, how is your nasty drip drip going?

01:25:30 First super chat, but I had to.

01:25:32 This is the best Friday I've had in a long time.

01:25:34 I love you, Candice.

01:25:34 Keep pushing.

01:25:35 It's paying off.

01:25:36 It's funny because we had wondered at the beginning of this week

01:25:38 what was with this random push about Fort Huachuca

01:25:40 when we weren't discussing Fort Huachuca,

01:25:42 and now we know.

01:25:44 Preemptive strike.

01:25:46 Preemptive strike because we're just about to find out

01:25:47 that the Independent Review says Brian Harple's a liar. 0.99

01:25:51 Brian Harple's a liar. 0.99

01:25:52 He lied about all this other stuff, 0.99

01:25:53 but we should totally trust his lawyer filing

01:25:57 a lawsuit against me who came to you multiple times and simply said, hey, you got like an

01:26:03 alibi for this time. I'm happy. I don't know this guy, Mitch. Story seems credible. He probably

01:26:08 maybe just saw a face and thought it was you. I don't know. I didn't have a horse in the race.

01:26:14 They always let you know when something is coming that is devastating to the narrative because

01:26:18 they start sending out the rats and the cockroaches. It's an obvious pattern by now.

01:26:25 random attacks, very aggressive.

01:26:30 I mean, this week I also had a random story

01:26:33 completely untrue that I accepted,

01:26:34 tried to heavily imply the New York Post,

01:26:37 you know, Israel's publication,

01:26:38 that I accepted $1.5 million from Harvey Weinstein

01:26:42 to interview him.

01:26:43 What are you talking about?

01:26:44 Not a single red cent did I accept from Harvey Weinstein.

01:26:47 They ran the story anyways.

01:26:48 After not contacting me at all,

01:26:51 despite having my PRs contact for years,

01:26:55 Yeah, all of that was coming down for a reason.

01:27:01 Just a Love in Life writes,

01:27:02 thank you, Candice, for never letting up

01:27:03 on Charlie's investigation.

01:27:05 Emergency, live, battle bond activated.

01:27:07 We need truth and justice for Charlie.

01:27:09 I have serious concerns about Turning Point USA.

01:27:11 Follow every lead.

01:27:11 Christ is king.

01:27:12 Thank you for forever going, Max.

01:27:15 Thank you.

01:27:16 SJ writes, July 10th was the request for UVU.

01:27:19 How close to the UVU terrorist drill was this?

01:27:23 Didn't they just do that drill around then?

01:27:24 keep going max. That drill was on June 17th. I should have included June because June was also

01:27:29 when, um, what did Bibi do in June? Hold on, I actually have the timeline here, the one that

01:27:36 goes above that. June was when Charlie got into it with Bibi at the White House. And then, um,

01:27:43 in that same day, Erica purged her Instagram. June 18th and 19th is when Charlie went to the White 0.66

01:27:48 House and won the debate against the Zionist lobbyists regarding going to war, um, with Iran.

01:27:54 And then on June 19th, Erica purchased her Instagram. And on June, yeah, that's leading up to June. And then we had Operation Midnight Hammer, which was Trump agreed to do to bomb Fordow and nuclear sites.

01:28:11 yeah and then on june 26th is when suddenly claire guinan writes her first article for

01:28:21 jezebel she's going to be the one that writes the article about the witch's curse she had no

01:28:25 writing profile before that new writer so that was a big week as well you are correct i mean a big

01:28:31 month as well rachel meow writes principal i did not read ahead i swear i just downloaded the report

01:28:40 to read along, Promise Love from Houston.

01:28:42 You can read ahead, read the entire document,

01:28:45 do what I do, mark it up, highlight it,

01:28:47 take notes, research on the side.

01:28:49 That's what I'll be spending this weekend doing.

01:28:52 And we will speak more about that EMP threat

01:28:56 that came in on the morning of.

01:28:59 It's a very, very specific kind of threat.

01:29:02 Like I said, perhaps that organization told the truth

01:29:05 and it was nothing, but nothing is nothing to me.

01:29:08 I have to explore every single lead, and that seems very particular to me.

01:29:16 Hopefully, this review helps Blake sort through and start to remember some things that happened that day.

01:29:23 And if nothing else, it certainly helps us to determine the character of the people who Charlie surrounded himself with.

01:29:33 But in the end, I am fully confident that he woke up to what was happening.

01:29:37 he was terrified but he marched on anyway and he knew that this was going to be the ending for him

01:29:43 and there is uh something it's tragic and it's beautiful at the same time that charlie still

01:29:50 went ahead with the event and um things are going exactly as he thought his death is leading to a

01:29:56 wider awakening anyway you guys um that we're probably going to take monday off we might take

01:30:03 a couple of days off here. What are we like? Just because I feel like I need to do a lot of research

01:30:07 and I want to make sure that we are dedicated to having accurate information. As I always say,

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01:30:25 and thank you guys for just, you know, being here with us in general on this journey.

01:30:29 We will see you guys at some point next week.

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Candace Owens - September 25, 2026

WE WERE RIGHT! UVU Releases Their Independent Review. ｜ Ep 394

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