Candace Owens - September 25, 2026


WE WERE RIGHT! UVU Releases Their Independent Review. | Ep 394

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00:00:00.000 All right, you guys. A lot of emotions going through me right now. Anger. Angry. Very angry. Last year being gaslit. We've been lied to. You've been called wine moms. The Department of War has executed a campaign, an online campaign, paying people to attack every single day, trying to convince us that water isn't wet.
00:00:22.280 trying to convince us that common sense should be ignored, that Candace is a liar. I mean,
00:00:29.920 so many, they can't even focus on the stuff that they've been saying over the last year.
00:00:33.780 We've been committed. I've pointed out things, my experience working for Turning Point USA
00:00:38.540 immediately told you things that were off about September 10th. They sent the faith leaders.
00:00:44.820 It's demonic, they said.
00:00:46.560 Oh, open your Bibles.
00:00:49.160 The widow, the widow.
00:00:51.720 Honor the widow.
00:00:54.400 Well, has the widow been honoring her late husband?
00:00:57.820 No more talk about the widow, guys.
00:00:59.500 No more talk about the widow
00:01:00.800 after this report has become available.
00:01:05.920 I don't want to hear it ever again.
00:01:07.120 I don't want to hear any person
00:01:09.240 try to sell to us this emotional pitch of, oh, Erica, Erica, she's just a widow. No, 0.80
00:01:19.340 she's conniving. She has allowed lies, okay? She has allowed lies because she is the CEO. I'm a 0.85
00:01:24.480 chairman. She's not at home taking care of her kids. She's on the road connected to an apparatus
00:01:29.380 of power at all times. And that power has been sent to attack all of us for refusing to accept
00:01:35.540 the Charlie Kirk Federal Slop narrative.
00:01:38.420 And what is so despicable,
00:01:40.040 what I really want to harp on
00:01:41.140 right here at the beginning,
00:01:42.600 because we told you,
00:01:43.280 we said this report is going to drop.
00:01:45.560 We told you it was damning.
00:01:46.780 Actually, Barron Coleman reported it first.
00:01:48.740 That report was incoming.
00:01:50.160 And what did they do?
00:01:51.820 The Kirk family files this very sloppy,
00:01:55.460 quick, preemptive strike
00:01:57.500 where they say the security at UVU is to blame.
00:02:00.240 That means somebody is leaking to them.
00:02:02.840 But by the way, the report, they knew,
00:02:05.180 they saw, they read, and they were prepared with the statement. Always doing the same thing,
00:02:10.500 by the way. They're always expecting us not to read it. You guys know I love to read stuff,
00:02:14.140 though. I love to read through it. I will take the time to read through every document when it
00:02:20.500 comes to the Charlie Kirk case, especially. Especially when you have had me in your sights,
00:02:27.460 and you have come after me, and you have come after those who have supported me,
00:02:31.420 and you have been vicious. Group chats come after my family, my kids. Yeah. Well, let's go through
00:02:38.460 it. Let's see what we learn in this report. It is astonishing. I mean, I got to just the timeline
00:02:43.800 and I could not believe it. I could not believe how right we have been the entire time. And when
00:02:48.480 I plug this into the broader timeline of what Charlie was going through in his personal life,
00:02:52.800 your jaw is going to hit the floor like mine did. So let's get started. Welcome back to Candace.
00:03:01.420 Somebody get Andrew Colvett, Blake Neff, somebody wake up the widow, get the pastors. 0.58
00:03:19.460 Come on, everybody. Everybody get together. Where's Frank Turek? Where's Frank and Bank Turek?
00:03:23.840 We're going to yank and bank and Frank our way through this independent review,
00:03:29.820 which they knew was coming.
00:03:31.620 Clearly knew it was coming
00:03:33.040 and tried to get ahead of.
00:03:33.940 Now, we told you this already
00:03:35.600 in the background of what was happening
00:03:36.840 that essentially almost immediately
00:03:39.900 UVU reached out to a third party,
00:03:42.960 the Lake Forest Group,
00:03:44.280 to conduct a review,
00:03:46.220 a broad review of the security protocols
00:03:47.860 to see what went wrong that day,
00:03:49.560 to open up the campus,
00:03:51.120 open up their police officers,
00:03:53.140 open up everyone sitting down
00:03:54.400 with interviews and producing evidence
00:03:55.940 as to what went wrong on September 10th.
00:03:59.120 assassination, bigger. You could argue this was a bigger assassination than JFK because of the
00:04:07.740 ability for the video to have spread globally. People wanted answers, and they basically put
00:04:13.160 their hands up and said, go for it. Get the answers that you guys are looking for. It could
00:04:19.120 have obviously been implicated. So we should start with who participated in this review, because that
00:04:24.360 alone is stunning. Erica's been telling us that she wants to get to the bottom of things, right,
00:04:30.440 that they want to figure out what happened no matter what the answer is. They're not just,
00:04:34.220 you know, pushing Tyler Robinson narrative. They're open to other considerations. They just,
00:04:40.240 she just wants the truth is what she said. She just wants the truth. This would be a really good
00:04:44.900 thing for the CEO and chairman of Turning Point USA to participate in a third-party review if
00:04:51.080 you're interested in getting to the truth about maybe how your organization may have played a
00:04:57.380 role in the security failures that day. Well, we learn who participated on the bottom of page six
00:05:03.400 and seven of this review. We are told that they interviewed federal, local, county, and state
00:05:09.220 officials. And we are told that UVU fully cooperated with the review. But guess who did not participate,
00:05:16.700 you guys. We learned that despite repeated outreach attempts, the project team did not
00:05:22.660 receive responses from the following individuals or other representatives of their organizations.
00:05:27.940 This information is included solely to document outreach efforts and to provide transparency
00:05:32.440 regarding the scope of information available to the project team. The project team reached
00:05:37.020 out to Brian Harpole, who was identified as the leader of the Integrity Solutions security team
00:05:41.660 working with Turning Point USA to provide executive protection for TPUSA CEO Charlie
00:05:47.060 Kirk. The project team attempted to reach Harpole by telephone and certified letter.
00:05:51.640 The certified letter explained the purpose of the outreach and provided the project team's
00:05:55.240 contact information. The project team did not receive a response. Neither did I, actually.
00:06:01.220 We're going to get more into Dan Flood. I mean, I get more into Brian Harpole. Next up,
00:06:05.600 the project team also reached out to Dan Flood, Turning Point USA's security supervisor. He's on
00:06:11.300 staff, and Macy Crofts, a Turning Point USA senior field representative. Those two would
00:06:17.400 know a lot. Flood was identified as the person who coordinated security for the organization
00:06:22.600 with Brian Harpole of Integrity Solutions. Flood was present at UVU on September 10th
00:06:27.800 and had a phone and text communication with UVU police chief Jeff Long a few days before
00:06:33.340 and the morning of the event. And Macy Crofts was identified as a senior field rep of Turning
00:06:38.140 point usa and she participated online in the major events assessment committee planning meeting that
00:06:45.180 was held on august 25th regarding the september 10th tp usa event but mysteriously you guys we
00:06:52.700 learned that neither flood nor crofts responded to phone calls or voicemail messages in flood's case
00:06:58.500 the project team also sent a certified letter they did not have a current address for crofts
00:07:03.780 They further contacted senior-level staff members at Turning Point USA in Phoenix, seeking assistance in connecting with Dan Flood and Macy, but the project team did not receive a response to those email and telephone outreach efforts.
00:07:15.960 We then learned the project team also reached out to the then-head of the UVU TPUSA Club, who had invited Charlie Kirk to speak at UVU.
00:07:24.780 The project team sought his insights and perspectives regarding planning for the September 10th TPUSA event, but he did not respond to project team's various outreach efforts, which included a certified letter seeking his cooperation.
00:07:39.040 That really is something Caleb Chillicott, who Erica spotlighted at AmFest, seemingly did not want to help the university that he went to figure out what happened, what went wrong.
00:07:51.740 how curious. How curious. Lastly, they tell us that a Utah risk management official
00:08:00.360 had communications with an executive of Turning Point USA and urged that the above-named
00:08:05.860 individuals who were associated with TPUSA on September 10th cooperate with the assessment
00:08:11.560 by being interviewed by the project team. There was no response. Now, why is that interesting?
00:08:17.080 It's interesting not only because of the message that they have communicated to us over and over
00:08:21.000 again about how they really just want the truth, you guys. But it's also interesting because Brian
00:08:25.780 Harpole was willing to speak to Sean Ryan on the podcast. He opened up, he was talked about,
00:08:32.560 why wouldn't you speak to the independent review? If everything you say to Sean Ryan is true and
00:08:37.560 above board, and we are going to learn that it was not, as I said, but if everything you're saying
00:08:42.900 is true and you have nothing to hide, Erica, don't come for my employees, I'm sorry, my family,
00:08:50.280 Don't come for her family.
00:08:52.840 Well, why don't you tell your family to open up the books?
00:08:55.080 You did nothing wrong.
00:08:56.380 They did nothing wrong, right?
00:08:58.480 No, they all declined.
00:09:00.260 And yet, Andrew Colbert, Blake Neff, every single day, they're beating the drum,
00:09:04.560 talking about how transparent they've been, right?
00:09:08.660 They just want answers.
00:09:10.580 They spent a year trying to get you answers, and you guys didn't participate.
00:09:15.140 Let's go to page 10.
00:09:16.220 This is just going to be an executive summary, but I want to highlight this because you are about to be hit with so much paid propaganda online to lie to you about what's in this document, so much so that you shouldn't even just take this episode.
00:09:29.820 You should read it yourself in its entirety.
00:09:32.520 You should read it in its entirety, but I want to highlight the opinion of the project team and its executive summary at the top on page 10.
00:09:39.180 Scroll down to the blue.
00:09:40.420 In the middle there, it is the opinion right there.
00:09:43.200 It is the opinion of the project team, based on our review of all available information, that at no time during the events leading up to the assassination of Charlie Kirk or in its aftermath, did any employee or agent of UVU act in bad faith or in willful and wanton disregard for the safety of others.
00:10:00.340 With the benefit of hindsight, however, the project team identified several actions, omissions, circumstances, and institutional practices that warrant attention as UVU considers how to strengthen the safety and security of campus events in the future.
00:10:13.860 So they are saying, this is our summary. Contrary to what Erica tried to very quickly, the Kirk family tried to quickly file, our assessment is nobody at UVU acted in bad faith or in disregard for the safety of others, but we are going to make some suggestions for the future of how they could learn and strengthen the policies that are already on the books.
00:10:36.640 Okay. Now, I want to talk also about this major events assessment committee. Actually,
00:10:45.540 yeah, let's go to page 11. I've been telling you guys about this. There was this Microsoft
00:10:50.260 Teams meeting that took place. They have assessed on page 11 that this did take place,
00:10:57.300 but it was Turning Point USA that wanted to have this event outside. We're going to talk more about
00:11:03.460 that. The MEAC, that's the Major Events Planning Committee. And we're going to learn that Turning
00:11:11.180 Point Security did not take place in this, but it tells us here that the MEAC process was initiated
00:11:18.340 on August 21st to determine whether or not the event should proceed and to identify security
00:11:23.760 concerns. However, several key event security decisions were deferred to Turning Point USA's
00:11:29.020 field representative, even though UVU staff members raised concerns, including concerns related to
00:11:35.300 holding the event in the outdoor fountain courtyard area and using Turning Point USA's
00:11:41.220 ticketing process. Turning Point preferred to hold the event in the fountain courtyard and to use its
00:11:46.600 own ticketing system rather than the university system. Those decisions placed the event in an
00:11:52.580 area that was more difficult to control and limited UVU's ability to obtain reliable real-time
00:11:58.180 information regarding anticipated attendance and crowd size. Because the event was held on UVU's
00:12:04.580 campus, UVU should have retained decision-making authority over key security-related issues,
00:12:10.580 including the venue selection, the ticketing and access control, and other conditions that
00:12:14.700 were necessary to support campus safety. Okay. I want to park that in the back of your mind, okay?
00:12:21.040 Let's go to the timeline on page 17. I love a timeline. They put together a timeline, and this,
00:12:25.600 I could not get over the first entry on this timeline.
00:12:28.820 You will recall, you will recall that very shortly after Charlie's assassination, I said, this event came together too quickly.
00:12:38.180 Something is not right.
00:12:39.580 And we were having a very hard time determining who requested this event.
00:12:42.780 You remember they sent out Ali Stuckey, who has never headlined a tour with Charlie Kirk.
00:12:47.320 She shares an ex-correspondence between her and Andrew
00:12:51.260 putting together an event last second for this exact tour
00:12:54.860 as evidence that I'm somehow lying.
00:12:57.540 I mean, what an absolutely terrible human being this girl is. 0.88
00:13:01.340 I'm truly like, I'm so sickened.
00:13:03.040 I was so angry thinking through the amount of people
00:13:06.060 that Charlie has helped in their career
00:13:07.960 and how quickly they turned their back on him.
00:13:10.000 So I noted to you, I said, who requested this event?
00:13:13.220 Because the way it normally works
00:13:14.980 is every single Turning Point USA chapter,
00:13:19.520 separate from National, 0.95
00:13:20.860 wants Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens,
00:13:23.740 they want you to come to their campus.
00:13:26.080 So they put in a request to Turning Point National
00:13:29.260 and Turning Point National does their best.
00:13:31.760 And typically the consideration is,
00:13:33.120 has Charlie done this university in the past?
00:13:36.360 How big is this university?
00:13:37.780 How is the club performing?
00:13:39.800 They're also rewarded on the basis
00:13:40.740 of how the independent clubs are performing okay.
00:13:44.540 this year, you're going to get Candace, you're going to get Charlie Kirk, you're going to get
00:13:48.380 this speaker, you're going to get this speaker. How can we divvy it up? Are the headliners available
00:13:53.600 on those certain dates? And it is a process that takes place, as I said to you guys,
00:13:59.480 the semester before, at a minimum, at a bare minimum, because the wait list is long. Of course,
00:14:06.720 every chapter president wants to host them. And I said, something is not right about how this
00:14:11.540 event came together. Lo and behold, we finally get an answer. Let's go to the timeline. I'm
00:14:17.580 shocked at this entry. We learn that on July 10th, 2025, at the request of Turning Point USA's
00:14:27.640 field representative, that's Macy Crofts. That means this was a complete flip. Turning Point
00:14:35.560 USA reached out to a club and president and said, hey, we want you to put in a request for Charlie
00:14:43.240 to speak in the courtyard. This is massive. OK, I cannot say to you enough. I cannot underscore
00:14:50.300 enough how massive this revelation is. This is not how events come together at Turning Point USA.
00:14:58.380 They don't say you put in the request and we want it in the fountain area. And let me tell you how
00:15:03.940 insane this is beyond that. They included Caleb's email in here. Caleb's email requesting,
00:15:12.440 Caleb Chillicott, the club president, requesting this event, and he didn't even know why he was
00:15:17.140 requesting it. Stunning. Now, if you guys don't mind pivoting, let's go to page 39 where we can
00:15:23.200 actually, or it might be page 40. I think it's page 39 where we could actually read. No, 40.
00:15:29.820 give me 40, page 40, the email. I think that's important for us to pivot to.
00:15:35.380 Here it is. This is the verbatim email from Turning Point USA, UVU's club president to
00:15:43.040 UVU Club Services. He wrote to them, my field representative for Turning Point USA has asked
00:15:50.860 me to reach out to UVU club department to ask about availability on hosting an event on the
00:15:56.840 courtyard on September 10th from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. She, referring to Macy Crofts, is being quite vague
00:16:04.680 on what this event is. So unfortunately, this is all the information I have in regards to it.
00:16:10.180 Are you able to tell me if this space, so she wanted it in the courtyard, Macy Crofts, it has
00:16:16.380 to be in the courtyard, doesn't tell much else. Can you let me know if this space is currently
00:16:21.180 available for the date and time headquarters came to a club president and said contact them
00:16:31.100 immediately see if this space is available and it's got to be in the courtyard i'm like i i can't
00:16:39.440 explain to you like i'm like on the brink of tears realizing this i told you there was something
00:16:46.360 suspicious about how this event came together. That right there is suspicious. Just do it. Just
00:16:52.360 email and see if we can be in the courtyard. He doesn't even know what's going on. She's being
00:16:55.800 vague. Why is she being vague? Why is she being vague? I have an idea why she might have been
00:17:00.860 being vague, but I'm going to show you the Charlie Kirk timeline of what's going on in his life
00:17:05.100 after we get through this. Let's go back up to that timeline, if you guys don't mind.
00:17:09.280 the timeline on the bottom of page 17.
00:17:14.820 I mean, on page 17.
00:17:16.300 Okay, so that's July 10th.
00:17:18.860 On July 18th is when he formerly,
00:17:22.180 maybe he got more details from AC,
00:17:24.140 submits an event request.
00:17:26.980 And the event is described as an appearance
00:17:29.320 by Charlie Kirk to discuss current events.
00:17:31.760 And that ticketing is going to be handled
00:17:33.520 by Turning Point USA.
00:17:35.060 It's going to be external.
00:17:36.580 The university will not have oversight over it.
00:17:39.280 On July 28th, the club's office advises that Turning Point USA's club and annual registration had to be completed.
00:17:47.900 So they came back to them and they said, actually, you haven't even submitted your annual club form, so you're not officially a club yet.
00:17:55.420 So they got that done in the back end.
00:17:57.040 So the event has not been approved.
00:17:58.840 They are just suggesting that they want to do this event.
00:18:01.220 And then after they submit that registration on August 21st, the club's office tentatively approves the event.
00:18:08.460 They forwarded it to event services as a major event. 1.00
00:18:11.980 So M-E-A-C is going to have to get involved. 0.99
00:18:15.460 And at that time, in response to UVU's questionnaire,
00:18:18.160 TPUSA told them it was going to be 600 attendees.
00:18:21.420 That's going to be relevant later
00:18:22.620 because when we say TPUSA,
00:18:25.180 we mean once again, Caleb Chillicott had no idea
00:18:27.900 what was going on,
00:18:28.820 which means he was not in control of ticketing.
00:18:31.300 That is also unusual, okay?
00:18:34.100 turning point usa national is handling the registrations we're going to learn that
00:18:39.700 elsewhere in this document they say on august 21st it's going to be 600 and then they offer
00:18:47.680 to connect uvupd with turning point usa security said that they had no risk factor for safety
00:18:54.660 or security and so on august 21st event services then emails everyone that's required on their
00:19:03.260 and to attend the major events committee meeting.
00:19:08.140 And that is when the first time,
00:19:10.320 now it's been approved tentatively,
00:19:12.180 that Jeff Long, the chief of police at UVU,
00:19:15.900 became aware of the event.
00:19:17.080 Now he is a crucial name
00:19:18.140 because they have been throwing so much dirt on his name
00:19:21.640 that when I got through this document,
00:19:23.200 I don't see how he doesn't sue.
00:19:25.300 I would sue not just Turning Point USA,
00:19:27.840 I would sue the university for allowing this narrative.
00:19:31.300 I mean, Brian Harpole is out there saying that, oh, this is the text message.
00:19:37.680 You've got them saying security failed.
00:19:40.040 Erica is filing a thing.
00:19:41.380 They're pointing.
00:19:42.320 I'm pretty sure she explicitly named Jeff Long in that filing.
00:19:45.860 By the time you get through to this, you're going to be like, I cannot believe the audacity
00:19:49.780 of that. 0.85
00:19:50.400 And you just have to be a sociopath to want to ruin this person's life knowing what you 0.91
00:19:55.700 knew. 0.96
00:19:56.980 Okay.
00:19:57.140 Right. Turning Point knew that it was them that orchestrated every aspect of this event.
00:20:02.100 Turning Point headquarters. This was not a slip up even on the chapter.
00:20:06.020 So I am saying Caleb Chillicott did nothing wrong.
00:20:08.900 OK, he's a chapter president. Headquarters is telling him what to do.
00:20:12.680 He's at an age where he's young and dumb and he wants to be favored. 0.99
00:20:16.900 Right. Oh, a little stroke on Eric is going to bring you on stage and give you an award. 0.99
00:20:22.060 He's an idiot. Maybe that's the worst thing he's done. He's an idiot. 1.00
00:20:25.960 He's a useful idiot for Turning Point USA headquarters. 1.00
00:20:30.480 But Jeff Chief Long? 1.00
00:20:32.680 Yeah, by the time you get through this, you're going to be thinking he should sue Turning Point USA for allowing for an entire year for people to think that he was the reason.
00:20:42.140 That's explicitly what Brian Harpole said.
00:20:44.520 What am I supposed to do with that?
00:20:46.240 UVU police did this.
00:20:47.540 They did that.
00:20:48.060 Well, now we have an independent review.
00:20:51.960 Let's keep going here.
00:20:52.920 so we now know this is the first time he finds out August 21st and then you get this entry here
00:21:00.220 which is that instantly this was flagged by UVU they have a free speech committee and they flag
00:21:07.700 it because they say we're going to anticipate protests and they have reviewed insights from
00:21:12.680 prior turning point appearances including an appearance of Charlie Kirk at UVU in 2019
00:21:17.680 with me, by the way.
00:21:19.180 That was with me.
00:21:19.860 And we did have protesters.
00:21:21.720 And me and Charlie sat on the floor
00:21:23.000 and went through the protesters.
00:21:24.400 So they're going, we expect some action here.
00:21:26.840 That's UVU that's saying that.
00:21:29.820 Not turning point security.
00:21:31.900 Then they have this mysterious entry
00:21:33.480 that Brian Harpole stated
00:21:34.760 in a public podcast on Sean Ryan
00:21:37.700 that he first had a meeting on September 10th.
00:21:41.780 And that's when they started getting things together.
00:21:44.740 Remember the Sean Ryan interview.
00:21:46.200 But guess what?
00:21:47.320 UVU has no idea what he's talking about.
00:21:48.440 We're going to learn about that.
00:21:49.120 They have no idea what he's talking about
00:21:50.100 because they weren't involved.
00:21:51.520 The committee meeting,
00:21:52.580 the Major Events Assessment Committee meeting,
00:21:54.940 which happened just four days
00:21:56.180 after Jeff Long learned about this,
00:21:59.040 took place on August 25th.
00:22:01.140 Guess who didn't attend this meeting?
00:22:03.240 Not a single member of Turning Point Security
00:22:05.660 attended this crucial meeting.
00:22:07.980 But they tell us what happened.
00:22:10.060 UVU participants raised concerns
00:22:11.880 about the outdoor courtyard location
00:22:13.600 that Macy insisted on,
00:22:15.220 the anticipated attendance,
00:22:16.500 the protest activity, the crowd management, the ability to control access. This is the meeting
00:22:21.360 the security should have been a part of. And Macy said, no, we want the event to remain in the
00:22:27.300 Fountain Courtyard, despite the concerns and suggestions of alternative venues. Turning Point
00:22:32.100 preferred that from the beginning. They didn't have a plan to even know what they were doing,
00:22:35.960 but they did know that it needed to be done in that Fountain Courtyard. Okay. TPUSA advised UVU
00:22:42.580 that it would have approximately eight security personnel.
00:22:46.500 And at that moment, and again,
00:22:47.840 they spoke independently to other people on the phone.
00:22:49.600 They've conducted interviews.
00:22:50.800 This has taken a year.
00:22:52.000 Chief Long requested contact with that security leadership.
00:22:55.480 So Chief Long is requesting on August 25th,
00:22:59.120 we are now T minus 15 days.
00:23:02.180 And where's the security contacting him
00:23:06.040 and asking about specs?
00:23:08.300 We continue.
00:23:09.220 we now learn that on the 25th the venue selection remained that's obviously crucial that there was
00:23:19.300 going to be no control in terms of protest activity crowd management and access control
00:23:24.720 i mean there just there was no controllability uh but that's what turning point wanted then we
00:23:29.180 learn that the free speech committee discussed possible eoc activation again that's all happening
00:23:34.580 during that meeting. And then on the 27th is when it's formally approved. And that's what I was
00:23:40.140 saying is that they were not promoting this event. Everything was happening weekly in the day. It's
00:23:46.200 insane that 3,000 people attended. And it gets approved. They start monitoring complaints and
00:23:53.140 concerns on August 29th. The Free Speech Committee really went above and beyond here.
00:23:57.740 And they had an anonymous caller that demanded that the event be canceled.
00:24:01.400 canceled. UVU President Tuminez requested updates regarding event planning on the 31st.
00:24:07.820 The Free Speech Committee kept monitoring that activity. Notice we're not seeing anything about
00:24:11.220 what Turning Point USA was doing here. On September 2nd, Chief Long goes, hey, man,
00:24:17.260 we're a week away from this event. And I've received no security requests from Turning Point
00:24:23.260 USA. I saw a point of contact. We had the MEAC on the 25th. Nobody was on that from
00:24:31.320 security. We just had Macy Crofts. Hey, can I get a point of contact on their security team? 1.00
00:24:38.480 And then finally, finally, we learned that on September 3rd, T-minus seven days from the event,
00:24:44.680 for the first time, Dan Flood and Chief Long get on the phone for just five minutes and 28 seconds.
00:24:51.380 And Chief Long asks Flood what Turning Point USA needs. And Dan Flood is focusing on,
00:24:59.740 as I told you, the arrival, the departure, and the parking logistics. They were really concerned
00:25:07.020 about Charlie's SUV having a clean exit. And then he told him that Turning Point will typically have
00:25:12.980 anywhere between eight and 10 security personnel. And they had a follow-up call, which lasted just
00:25:18.440 48 seconds on the same day, on the third. And Chief Long and Dan Flood were talking about ticketing.
00:25:25.240 And guess what Dan Flood says?
00:25:26.440 He says, national office is handling ticketing.
00:25:30.640 Tickets totals are not available.
00:25:32.060 We can't tell you anything.
00:25:33.260 T-minus seven days, we can't tell you how many people are going to come here.
00:25:36.200 And so how could Chief Long be prepared for a crowd?
00:25:43.540 The last update he's been told by Turning Point National is that it's 600 people.
00:25:48.300 And Dan Flood, the chief security person, is telling him, yep, sorry, that's it.
00:25:55.240 We don't have, we have a, we got nothing.
00:25:58.400 Got no updates here.
00:26:00.300 Okay.
00:26:02.380 We now have, we're looking at another key decision point.
00:26:08.560 On September 8th, TPUSA Security is now concerned about,
00:26:14.160 what do they say?
00:26:14.700 The pedestrian walkway access above the area
00:26:19.340 where Charlie Kirk's canopy was to be placed.
00:26:21.960 And this, my friends, is why I think Turning Point USA executives are, I mean, it's just like you want to talk about demonic possession. You have kept up this lie. You allowed Brian Harpole to tell this lie. And Erica reinforced this lie in that recent filing that the Kirk family reinforced this lie in that recent filing that this text communication between Dan Flood was not about the canopy, but more broadly speaking,
00:26:50.460 was about rooftops.
00:26:53.600 And I told you from the beginning,
00:26:54.560 this was a lie that Brian Harpo was telling.
00:26:56.100 He was not only lying by omission,
00:26:58.760 by pretending these were his messages.
00:27:00.400 What am I supposed to do with that?
00:27:02.100 He says to Sean Ryan, nothing,
00:27:04.400 because it's not your text message.
00:27:06.240 It's a communication between Dan Flood
00:27:08.700 and a communication between him and Jeff Long
00:27:13.300 about particularly, amazingly,
00:27:15.900 the two things they're concerned with
00:27:17.020 is a clean exit for Charlie.
00:27:18.440 Charlie's vehicle and what's happening above Charlie's head.
00:27:24.540 The exact, ironically, that's going to be where people would reasonably see someone on
00:27:30.460 Pelosi Center.
00:27:31.300 They want that clear and they want a clean exit.
00:27:35.240 That's it.
00:27:39.180 We are told that Dan initiated that text exchange on September 8th.
00:27:43.940 T minus two days regarding, again, the accessibility of that canopy area above the Hall of Flags.
00:27:51.820 And that is when Jeff Long said, we got you covered in reference to, they make it clear, the Hall of Flags Outdoor Pedestrian Walkway.
00:28:04.240 Free speech committee still monitoring.
00:28:06.040 They're still doing their job.
00:28:07.160 I give the free speech committee an A++, by the way.
00:28:11.000 And then we now have incident day.
00:28:13.060 Now, I'm not going to get into the emergency response.
00:28:16.080 That's a huge part of this report.
00:28:18.080 And I want to make sure that I have time to separately go through that because some of
00:28:22.480 it's irrelevant.
00:28:23.040 They're making recommendations about what could happen in the future.
00:28:25.360 A lot of it is not relevant to what we are trying to figure out, which is what took place
00:28:29.380 on that day and which should have been told to us from Turning Point USA.
00:28:33.640 Right.
00:28:35.080 So we're now incident day on September 10th.
00:28:36.920 And we learn that Chief Long contacts the Utah SIAC regarding an anonymous threat.
00:28:46.460 That threat is a shocking threat that we're going to get into later.
00:28:49.980 It's a threat about EMPs.
00:28:53.580 EMPs, what did we learn about EMPs and whose family was super involved with EMPs?
00:28:58.120 Lori France-Fay, EMPs.
00:28:59.580 I'm very interested in that 723 AM threat.
00:29:03.180 We'll talk about that in a bit.
00:29:04.660 9 AM, the security arrives to campus.
00:29:06.780 So they've done nothing. They have not been there. They've had a couple of communications the day before with Chief Long, and Chief Long does not meet them until 9 o'clock a.m.
00:29:16.540 They weren't even trying to come at 7 a.m. to get a lay of the land. Nothing. At 9.04, Dan Flood texts Chief Long advising that the rest of the security has arrived onto campus.
00:29:26.940 Chief Long engages in a series of text communications with Flood to include several regarding individuals that are located on that Hall of Flags pedestrian walkway.
00:29:36.300 They're really concerned.
00:29:37.240 They don't want anybody up there across from the Losey Center.
00:29:40.760 Now, you could say it's because they're worried people are going to throw stuff on Charlie's
00:29:43.460 head.
00:29:43.720 Yeah, that's reasonable, too.
00:29:44.860 That's a reasonable conclusion.
00:29:46.100 You don't want somebody just above Charlie's head, but that's their main focus.
00:29:51.060 And the text, it says that these text exchanges reveal, we're going to read through them,
00:29:54.880 that the primary security focus for Turning Point USA was the Hall of Flags outdoor pedestrian
00:30:00.060 walkway.
00:30:00.660 We're going to be able to read through those messages.
00:30:02.160 So there's no question anymore that that was Dan Flood's main focus.
00:30:07.960 Then we learned, I want to point out 9-28 and 10-28.
00:30:11.980 Additional Charlie Kirk staff arrive onto campus at 9-28, and then an hour later, additional
00:30:16.580 Charlie Kirk staff arrive onto campus.
00:30:18.240 Now, when I read that, it's because they have call times.
00:30:20.880 So my assumption, and this is me reading into it, is that at 9 a.m., that was the security
00:30:25.360 call time.
00:30:26.320 At 9-28, you have some staff, and I don't know what's that going to be.
00:30:31.940 Is that going to be social media?
00:30:32.980 But also at 1028, you have additional staff.
00:30:35.840 My issue immediately, what I'm thinking about
00:30:38.100 when I look at that is we are told
00:30:40.760 that Tyler Robinson is going to go up to a girl.
00:30:44.300 I know it's a girl and I know who the girl is.
00:30:46.840 And she's involved in social media.
00:30:50.580 And he's going to leave, he leaves campus by what,
00:30:53.020 actually like 933 he pulls out of campus?
00:30:56.520 924.
00:30:58.000 So unless this girl arrived with security,
00:31:01.940 at 9.04. I am very interested in determining when the group of girls arrived, because that is
00:31:10.680 very interesting. If Tyler Robinson has to go up to anybody before 9.28, it's likely just security.
00:31:20.740 They may have missed this. Now, maybe they did come a little earlier for some reason,
00:31:24.820 but I just wanted to point that out, that it makes that interesting, that entry interesting
00:31:30.540 in the Tyler Robinson timeline. Of course, we then know what happens is there's going to be all this
00:31:37.320 back forth between Dan Flood and Chief Long because, lo and behold, there are some people
00:31:42.580 that are protesting up there before the event gets started, and they have a communication.
00:31:47.980 Chief Long requests that the UVU PD detective, along with a sergeant and additional officer,
00:31:54.380 oh, I'm sorry, the initial UVU PD staffing, including Chief Long, one patrol officer and
00:32:03.180 one reserve officer, after observing the crowd size. That's a crucial entry at 11 a.m. So it
00:32:08.120 was actually UVU that requested more people after observing the crowd size an hour ahead. They're
00:32:15.380 like, well, we were told 600. This looks like it's 3,000. We need to up the crowd size.
00:32:21.920 Turning Point USA did not request that.
00:32:23.960 So they're there, they're obsessing things,
00:32:26.260 and at no point did they communicate,
00:32:27.900 now that they're in communication,
00:32:29.580 like, hey, we might need some more people.
00:32:31.060 We weren't expecting this many people.
00:32:34.060 It also tells us that at 1049,
00:32:37.700 Chief Long texted Dan Flood to meet
00:32:40.580 at the Hall of Flags outdoor at 11.
00:32:44.040 But the meeting did not occur.
00:32:45.500 So UVU requested that they have a little powwow before.
00:32:49.580 It doesn't happen.
00:32:50.380 and UVU is the one that suggests
00:32:53.320 after observing the crowd size that day,
00:32:55.460 which would have been the only time
00:32:56.280 they could have observed it
00:32:56.940 because Turning Point USA
00:32:57.900 was in charge of registration.
00:33:01.860 UVU is the one that decides,
00:33:03.960 hey, we should up the security presence here.
00:33:06.960 That's stunning.
00:33:08.340 That is damning.
00:33:09.500 It is contrary to everything
00:33:10.940 that they have told us
00:33:12.120 as they have tried to paint it
00:33:13.800 as though UVU PD is who failed on that day,
00:33:17.160 failed Charlie Kirk on that day.
00:33:20.380 So they're telling us who went up to the Hall of Flags and dealt with the protesters.
00:33:24.780 That's between 11.20 and 11.30, and that the protesters did move away, and then the officers
00:33:31.620 blocked them off with security tape, which we saw so that they couldn't run over, and
00:33:36.420 those are the communications that Dan Flood has with him.
00:33:38.740 Then at 11.30, Chief Long goes up to the second floor of the Fugle Gateway building because
00:33:45.320 he established a command post, because that building allows them to see everything.
00:33:49.440 It gives them visibility over the entire event area.
00:33:52.580 Guess who didn't join him in that command post?
00:33:55.860 Any member of Turning Point USA's security team.
00:34:00.220 I'm going to show you where that Fugo building is. 0.61
00:34:05.460 That'd be a good place to be.
00:34:07.260 If you wanted to be high up, they take that top floor.
00:34:11.420 They're observing what's happening below.
00:34:13.040 That would be a good place to send one of your 12 men
00:34:16.400 if you were curious what was going on beneath
00:34:19.980 and you wanted to have a good eyesight line,
00:34:22.360 but they did not, okay?
00:34:25.540 We go back into that timeline
00:34:27.640 and we have, obviously, we know what happens next
00:34:34.160 is that the person's gonna jump onto the rooftop,
00:34:36.980 then they say the big bang happens,
00:34:40.580 they obviously are telling you what happens
00:34:42.640 just on the surveillance, the dispatch,
00:34:45.680 And this is the stuff that I'm going to want to actually get into on a later episode so that we can separate Turning Point USA's actions leading up to this from what happened thereafter.
00:34:55.260 And there's a lot to go over in terms of them saying that when Charlie got to the hospital, there was a fire chief that performed CPR, throws into further chaos various statements that we have heard.
00:35:08.560 But let's scroll down now to 2.3.
00:35:13.940 Let's go to the bottom of page 39
00:35:15.380 where it talks about that meeting that took place,
00:35:20.040 the Microsoft Teams meeting,
00:35:21.380 which the security did not partake in.
00:35:29.540 I'm going to go to that last paragraph.
00:35:33.200 Actually, you know what?
00:35:34.140 Let's go to 2.3, yeah.
00:35:35.700 Let's go to even below that.
00:35:37.180 During the August 25th major events teams meeting, Macy Crofts, we're going to talk about her more, a senior field representative for Turning Point USA, participated at the request of Turning Point USA.
00:35:49.480 So again, that's national, okay?
00:35:52.740 UVU participants raised concerns regarding Turning Point USA's requested location in the large-tiered fountain courtyard near the main entrance.
00:36:00.520 Concerns included anticipated attendance, potential protest activity, crowd management, and the ability to control access.
00:36:07.060 UVU officials suggested alternative locations such as the Fulton Library, the Quad, or interior locations where access could be more effectively controlled.
00:36:14.900 UVU also suggested using the university's ticketing system so anticipated attendance could be tracked and incorporated into the planning.
00:36:22.100 According to meeting participants, Crofts insisted, they're using the word insisted, on the use of the Fountain Courtyard location because Charlie Kirk had previously spoken on campus and Turning Point USA was familiar with that location.
00:36:36.160 He also previously spoke on that location with me, and we were not in the courtyard. So I'm wondering if she even told the truth that he had previously spoken or tried to imply that he was in that location.
00:36:51.560 She said that she preferred that TPUSA manage online ticketing through its national office in Phoenix.
00:36:59.600 And when certain major events members expressed reservations, including Robin Ebmeyer, UVU's Director of Emergency Management and Safety, the committee ultimately allowed the event to proceed in the requested location and allowed Turning Point USA to manage ticketing.
00:37:17.880 elsewhere they're going to tell us. The reason for that is because they didn't want to violate
00:37:24.760 free speech, essentially, that they're in this catch-22 situation because you have to allow
00:37:32.480 people to protest, you have to allow for free speech of events, and we'll cover that more.
00:37:38.940 Let's go to 2.4 where we learn straight. This is page 41. We're going to again read this email
00:37:48.520 and scroll down a bit. Here we go. This is a verbatim. Oh wait, I'm missing an email. Is there
00:38:01.040 another email? Ah, there it is. No, no, no. That's the club president email. And then there's
00:38:06.900 another email they had in here. I might have wrote this incorrectly, but it tells us, or maybe
00:38:13.340 it wasn't an email. Maybe it's just telling us that the questionnaire had been completed. Yeah,
00:38:16.140 it's under 2.4. So it probably was not an email and I just misremembered whether or not it was
00:38:20.280 an email, but you can go back to 2.4, which is page 41. Here we go. Pre-event. Yeah. Here. Yeah,
00:38:28.180 they quote. Here we go. On August 21st, the UVU Turning Point USA club president emailed the club's
00:38:34.640 office, a completed MEAC questionnaire indicating that it provided answers straight from the TPUSA
00:38:43.180 team. Headquarters is handling this event. Headquarters is involved. They're telling us
00:38:49.640 what to write. They're telling us what to say. So when we learn that they declined an ambulance,
00:38:55.600 my guess is that Caleb Chilicate was just the useful idiot because straight from the TPUSA team, 0.98
00:39:02.680 they are being told how to complete the questionnaire. 0.99
00:39:06.740 Straight from the TPUSA team.
00:39:09.980 600 attendees, primarily student-focused,
00:39:13.440 some potential public interests,
00:39:15.120 no risk factors or safety security concerns
00:39:17.920 or need for emergency medical services.
00:39:22.920 Straight from the TPUSA team
00:39:26.100 is what he wanted them to know.
00:39:30.240 How unusual.
00:39:32.680 How unusual.
00:39:36.800 Then we can go to this threat, this obscure threat, bottom of page 42, that Chief Long received on the day of the event.
00:39:51.980 It says Chief Long also contacted SIAC, and I want to let you guys know what SIAC is.
00:39:57.460 Let me tell you, I looked this up earlier, but forgot to write down.
00:40:01.060 It's the Statewide Information and Analysis Center, so they work with that government bureau when they are dealing with cybersecurity threats.
00:40:12.200 Chief Long contacted SIAC by email at approximately 7.30 a.m. on September 10th to share an anonymous tip to UVU received regarding a potential threat involving an electromagnetic pulse device that a suspect might be using at the event.
00:40:29.140 chief long was seeking to determine whether any threat related intelligence update was available
00:40:34.460 regarding the tip long was advised email was the best method to request information from the utah
00:40:40.960 siac the siac responded shortly thereafter chief long that it was not a credible threat as it
00:40:47.300 appeared the tipster had provided similar information in the past that was determined
00:40:51.720 to be unreliable i feel like this is an area that i would like to know more about
00:40:59.140 This is an area that seems very strange to me, an electromagnetic pulse device that a suspect might use at the event.
00:41:08.520 I just want to highlight that because I find that to be shocking, random, and perhaps ultimately it is just a crazy person that says that, you know, there's a threat via electromagnetic pulse devices.
00:41:22.920 But given everything that we have been talking about and my utter and complete disbelief that Charlie was shot with 30-06 from Losey Rooftop and had a miracle Superman neck, I think that that should be explored more.
00:41:39.440 We elsewhere learn, and we can go down now to read the text message exchange between Dan Flood and Jeff Long, just for confirmation, and it's verbatim.
00:41:53.580 Dan Flood, right when they are discussing the Hall of Flags walkway,
00:41:59.640 hello, Chief Long, we received this message today from the student group.
00:42:02.940 We have gone over this message many times.
00:42:05.700 Dan Flood was speaking about that student roof access
00:42:08.280 pretty close to where Charlie Kirk will be set up at Utah Valley.
00:42:12.220 The Sorensen Student Center has a couple staircases
00:42:14.340 that go up to the walkways on the roof.
00:42:16.780 Chief Long asks, do you want access to the roof?
00:42:19.420 Dan Flood says, I was told students have access above us.
00:42:22.160 if this is true, it would be nice to either have a controlled access or allow one of my guys to be
00:42:26.340 there as well as possible. And Chief Long says, I got you covered. And Dan Flood says, thank you,
00:42:31.500 sir. And indeed, they did have them covered. And then they lied to the public about what they were
00:42:36.340 speaking about. There's no way a year on that Erica and Turning Point USA don't know that this
00:42:42.760 was severely misrepresented by Brian Harpole. And they can't make Brian Harpole the fall guy.
00:42:48.580 You know why they can't do that?
00:42:49.340 Because their employee gave him the text message to go on to Sean Ryan.
00:42:54.300 This was not Brian Harpole's conversation.
00:42:57.360 So there's some coordination happening between Dan Flood and Brian Harpole before he goes on to Sean Ryan that he presents a message that is not his and misrepresents it.
00:43:06.680 It's like they're trying to keep their distance from this interview, but I don't accept that.
00:43:13.080 And that's why this is my favorite part.
00:43:14.580 when we get to the top of page 47
00:43:17.600 and they start listing Harpole's lies.
00:43:19.860 I love this because I'm being sued 0.94
00:43:22.240 for telling you that Harpole is a liar.
00:43:25.060 And now we have an official independent review board
00:43:27.600 who's gonna signal that Harpole lied
00:43:29.620 throughout this interview.
00:43:31.100 But we're supposed to trust him on Fort Huachuca, guys.
00:43:33.740 We're supposed to trust him on Fort Huachuca,
00:43:36.060 but we learned that everything,
00:43:38.040 virtually everything that he told Sean Ryan
00:43:39.900 isn't accurate.
00:43:41.960 Let's go wide on this.
00:43:44.580 Okay, let's go. I'm sorry. Maybe it's a little further up. It looks like this is in the middle
00:43:47.560 of it. It starts there. Okay, his podcast interview, right? The project team never
00:43:54.140 received a response. He let us know. But we did. We were able, like everybody else,
00:43:58.780 to watch this interview. And we noted that he kind of lied. That means we shouldn't trust
00:44:03.800 Brian Harpole, guys. We shouldn't trust Brian Harpole now that we learn officially that he lied.
00:44:10.540 Going to that last paragraph, Harpole stated that his first meeting to discuss September 10th TPSA event occurred on August 24th.
00:44:18.900 That was one day before the UVU MEAC meeting, during which TPSA Representative Macy Crofts advised UVU of Turning Point USA's preferred venue location and ticketing process, which UVU approved.
00:44:31.320 Harpole stated that Dan Flood was a security guy for Turning Point.
00:44:33.960 He said Flood did not share any specific security concerns or threats with him.
00:44:39.080 During the pre-event planning, Harple stated that Flood would meticulously share any intelligence that he believed was important.
00:44:46.460 In the podcast, Harple gave no indication that he considered requesting an on-site pre-event meeting with campus police to evaluate vulnerabilities and make security assignments.
00:44:57.460 Harpole explained that his team was focused on securing what he called the bubble, meaning the area in front of and around where Charlie Kirk would be speaking.
00:45:05.780 Harpole stated that when he and his team arrived at UVU a few hours before the event, they surveyed the area and believed the venue location was horrible.
00:45:13.760 Oh, they got there and said it was horrible.
00:45:15.980 He specifically identified the concern that someone in an elevated position would have a 180-degree view of the area where Charlie Kirk would be speaking.
00:45:24.540 Harpo described that as ignorant and a security fail, but he acknowledged that Charlie Kirk liked the venue.
00:45:30.840 Okay. 0.80
00:45:32.400 Harpo further stated that the venue location was selected by UVU and that UVU told TPUSA, quote, nope, this is where you have to have it.
00:45:43.480 Well, that's a lie.
00:45:46.280 So did someone at Turning Point USA lie to Brian Harpo about that?
00:45:49.980 Or is Brian Harpo lying to Sean Ryan about that?
00:45:52.840 because now we know that that's just a lie.
00:45:56.420 They wrote, this was one of the primary reasons
00:45:58.780 the project team sought to speak directly with Harpole
00:46:01.280 since this particular statement
00:46:02.560 and a number of others that Harpole made
00:46:05.260 conflict with what the project team learned
00:46:08.540 from reviewing evidence
00:46:10.040 and conducting numerous interviews
00:46:12.240 with those who attended the major events meeting
00:46:15.100 and were present on the day of the event.
00:46:17.800 Indeed, multiple interviews
00:46:19.280 that the project team conducted
00:46:20.480 indicated that UVU had expressed concerns
00:46:23.180 about the outdoor location,
00:46:24.360 including during the August 25th MEAC meeting,
00:46:27.920 but ultimately agreed to Turning Point USA's
00:46:30.760 requested venue location.
00:46:32.160 How could Brian get that so wrong?
00:46:33.920 They sought to clarify that
00:46:35.880 and he decided to say nothing.
00:46:38.660 In the very beginning of this,
00:46:40.460 since July 10th,
00:46:41.520 it was Turning Point USA,
00:46:43.440 not even with the plan,
00:46:44.880 just saying,
00:46:45.300 Caleb, make sure we get that outdoor venue.
00:46:48.000 The project team also sought to learn more
00:46:49.920 about pre-event planning related to the possible use of aerial drones. That was another big area.
00:46:55.540 During the podcast, Harpole discussed the lack of a drone camera in the air during the event.
00:46:59.900 He stated that TPUSA's team, video team, used what he described as little bitty drones to take a
00:47:08.160 quick shot of the venue before the event. But Harpole also stated that although his team had
00:47:13.920 drones, they did not use them during the event because of FAA restrictions related to the Provo
00:47:19.460 airspace. But just like we told you guys, that was a lie. You want to know why it's a lie? Well,
00:47:24.480 the project team's basic research indicated that drone operations are restricted within a five-mile
00:47:29.900 radius of Provo Airport and Class D airspace, just as we reported on this podcast. Orem is not within
00:47:37.900 five miles of the Provo Airport airspace. So he lied. He expressed concern that UVU PD did not
00:47:45.520 have a drone available. Without being able to speak directly with Harpole, it remains unclear
00:47:50.360 to the project team why, during the hours before Charlie Cook's arrival, Harpole's team and UVU
00:47:55.840 did not discuss efforts to secure a drone. Oh, they didn't request one. Harpole just sort of
00:48:02.680 said, I got a drone. I can't use it because of the Provo airspace, which is completely irrelevant
00:48:06.900 to where we're going. He lied. He lied. It says that if the team had concerns with the venue
00:48:17.340 location, a drone from the neighboring Orem Police Department could have been requested.
00:48:20.420 It wasn't requested because it wasn't requested. That's why. Harpo also stated during the podcast
00:48:26.460 that federal law would not allow his team to post a counter sniper on a roof. However,
00:48:31.500 However, if that's what he was concerned about, the roofs, then it's unclear why he did not post any members of his team in elevated locations for general security observation purposes.
00:48:42.660 They're saying, we're not asking you to post a counter sniper.
00:48:48.700 Yeah, maybe that violates federal law, but how about just getting somebody up high to look at the rooftops?
00:48:54.340 You didn't do that.
00:48:55.520 Doesn't seem like the rooftops were your concern at all.
00:48:58.860 It's a counter sniper or it's nothing.
00:49:01.500 yeah, he failed to mention that.
00:49:03.720 That's a lie by severe omission
00:49:05.300 that he never communicated
00:49:07.800 that he wanted to be high up
00:49:09.200 or that he wanted to have observations
00:49:10.920 of the rooftop.
00:49:13.300 We also, like I said,
00:49:15.340 showed you that map
00:49:16.220 of the Fugle Gateway building.
00:49:17.780 They had nobody up there, okay?
00:49:20.800 Elsewhere, we learn,
00:49:22.480 and this is moving on from Brian Harpole.
00:49:24.260 This is the bottom of page 48.
00:49:25.580 And I think this is something
00:49:27.200 that needs to be explored more,
00:49:28.440 and I intend to do so this weekend.
00:49:29.880 We're going to take off Monday.
00:49:31.500 Um, the bottom of page 48, that officer Bagley was indeed the first to suggest going up to the Losey Center after the Big Bang. And during that initial response, officer Bagley identified the elevated roof area of the Losey Center as a possible source location of the assailant. I find that to be very interesting.
00:49:50.920 Officer Bagley, whose body cam footage went off, lost the battery.
00:49:56.780 I don't know.
00:49:57.220 I don't know.
00:49:57.520 He just wasn't working, whatever he testified.
00:50:00.520 He had no body cam.
00:50:01.380 He was the one that said we should go up.
00:50:02.740 And then he locates a screwdriver and an area of disturbed gravel on the roof that appeared
00:50:08.180 consistent with a possible prone shooting position.
00:50:11.000 It was his quick recognition of the likely shooting position that was significant because
00:50:16.140 it helped to focus the investigation on the elevated roof area.
00:50:20.280 It's very interesting. Officer Bagley was the person behind that because we've told you that
00:50:25.420 he has some interesting history. They all kind of have this background history in sex crimes.
00:50:30.300 I'm mentioning that again because it's going to become relevant when I show you
00:50:33.100 what Charlie Kirk was going through in his life at this time. Page 53, we are again told that
00:50:41.620 Turning Point USA controlled everything, decision-making, ticketing, etc. They impressed
00:50:46.340 that upon us. We can go to the bottom of page. Actually, let's get it verbatim just so that
00:50:52.960 there's no dispute here. Let's go to page 53. You're at the right spot, I think. Are you?
00:51:03.760 Yeah. Great. In the project team's assessment. No, wait. No, you're right. Let's go top of page
00:51:13.360 53. Scroll down a little bit more, just at the top. At the same time, the preparation process
00:51:18.600 revealed several important gaps. There was limited time between chief long first learning of the
00:51:23.120 event and the event date. The security assessment process did not result in documented requirements
00:51:27.760 for venue modification. The university controlled ticketing, controlled access, credentialing,
00:51:32.620 screening, or additional staffing. UV did not have reliable access to ticketing or registration data.
00:51:38.280 coordination with TPUSA security team was very limited and did not include a structured pre-event
00:51:43.920 briefing or site walking through before or on September 10th between Brian Harpole, Dan Flood
00:51:50.460 and the UVU PD. Chief Long did not initiate a mutual aid request to the Orem Police Department
00:51:57.140 or other local public safety partners before the event and additional external resources were not
00:52:02.600 requested after the crowd size became apparent. There also is not a dedicated assignment for
00:52:09.020 real-time security video monitoring by UVU PD dispatch personnel or others from another
00:52:13.560 operational location during the event. And so this is when they jump into all of their
00:52:18.700 suggestions about how these are ways they can update things in the future.
00:52:25.200 I do want to point out the bottom of page 1661 because then we learn that Turning Point never
00:52:29.700 actually issued any tickets, which is, by the way, I will say common because they just tell you that
00:52:34.220 you have to register for the event. So they did not require tickets at the actual event. Why would
00:52:39.500 they if there's no traffic control? They just allowed people to freely register, again, handled
00:52:45.540 entirely by Turning Point USA National and not communicated to the police. But it calls into
00:52:51.340 question the wristbands that were given out. The review states that there was no formal credentialing
00:52:58.640 process for VIPs. They had somebody from Turning Point National handing out wristbands to people
00:53:09.340 that were sitting in the section to the right of Charlie and learning that there was no ticket
00:53:17.040 verification, there was no credentialing, there was no screening, there was no designated entry
00:53:21.860 exit points. There were no restricted access areas. I'm wondering how on earth there could
00:53:30.020 have been people that were being given wristbands. That is a question that I am just opening up
00:53:34.480 because that makes no sense to me. That makes no sense to me that Turning Point National was
00:53:40.660 handing out wristbands to those people that would come down and be by the car. A lot of people,
00:53:45.600 by the way, who recorded footage in particular, a lot of people, the same crowd of people who
00:53:50.780 are speaking to the press thereafter.
00:53:53.200 I'm wondering why those wristbands,
00:53:56.720 who those people are,
00:53:57.840 if UVU is saying that
00:53:58.980 they didn't have a VIP system,
00:54:00.440 then that must mean
00:54:01.400 that somehow National did.
00:54:03.980 You're not buying tickets.
00:54:04.920 It sounds like your ticket says,
00:54:05.900 I bought a VIP ticket.
00:54:07.560 You're just registering online.
00:54:09.660 That is a question
00:54:10.620 that needs to be answered.
00:54:12.020 That is odd to me.
00:54:13.360 And it's something
00:54:13.800 that I pointed out early on.
00:54:14.780 I said, what are these wristbands?
00:54:16.840 What is this about?
00:54:19.780 We're going to find out.
00:54:20.780 Now that we have gone through this, you guys, I want to now input it into the Charlie Kirk timeline in terms of what he was going through, because I think it will send a chill up your spine.
00:54:35.020 Do a break first. My producer is saying, okay, let's take a quick break first, and then we're going to go through what was going on in Charlie's life and by implementing what we've learned here into our master timeline. We'll be right back.
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00:56:40.280 So July was a very interesting,
00:56:44.500 I kept telling you guys, something happened in July.
00:56:48.820 Something just was going on in July when I started putting together this timeline.
00:56:53.980 And now we can further fill out this timeline.
00:56:57.160 And I'm just giving you facts.
00:56:58.120 Some of the facts are not even relevant.
00:56:59.520 I just have it on my timeline because I thought it might be relevant, but you should see it.
00:57:04.440 Let's bring in the Charlie Kirk timeline beginning in July of 2025.
00:57:09.060 From July 7th to July 9th, BB Netanyahu visits America.
00:57:14.500 He records podcasts with the Nelk Boys while he's in Washington, D.C.
00:57:17.620 From July 7th to July 9th, Bibi Netanyahu is in Washington, D.C. 0.50
00:57:23.200 On July 10th, the very next day after he leaves,
00:57:26.900 and I want to be clear, Bibi Netanyahu did not kill Charlie Kirk.
00:57:31.360 He let us know immediately after Charlie Kirk died that he didn't kill him.
00:57:36.940 So we'll have to take that at face value.
00:57:39.860 But after he leaves D.C. on July 10th, Turning Point USA headquarters,
00:57:43.780 Macy Crofts asks the UVU club president to pull together an event and the club president has no
00:57:49.600 idea what that event is but she does know that um he needs to be in the amphitheater so that's
00:57:56.740 what's communicated by Caleb to the school he needs to be in the amphitheater we don't really
00:58:00.600 she's being vague he's being vague I don't know what's really going on okay July 11th to the 13th
00:58:07.560 is the Student Action Summit in Tampa, Florida.
00:58:11.660 Charlie's first speech is at 4 p.m.
00:58:13.900 His last speech is concluded.
00:58:15.580 We should have probably rinsed that.
00:58:17.080 The tail number doesn't matter.
00:58:18.020 It's not associated anymore,
00:58:18.880 but we should delete that anyways.
00:58:21.240 I'll just cut that in post.
00:58:23.680 Tucker Carlson on the 11th speaks
00:58:26.840 and donors freak out.
00:58:30.180 Charlie tells him to go max.
00:58:31.380 He calls out Jeffrey Epstein in particular
00:58:33.340 because that's what Charlie is hitting, by the way.
00:58:35.940 Every day on his podcast,
00:58:37.060 he is calling for the release of the Epstein files.
00:58:39.920 He asks Megan to speak about it.
00:58:41.380 He asks Tucker Carlson to speak about it.
00:58:43.460 He says that, Tucker Carlson says that people
00:58:45.740 who serve in foreign armies
00:58:46.780 should be stripped of their citizenship.
00:58:48.200 And he muses about where Bill Ackman's wealth comes from.
00:58:53.680 Who is this guy?
00:58:54.240 Where is his money coming from?
00:58:56.460 Tucker will later say he doesn't know what came over him.
00:58:58.640 He just, this is just how he felt.
00:59:00.580 And Charlie said, go after the Epstein stuff.
00:59:03.340 on july 11th frank turk deletes his website frank turk.com the website has remnants of an
00:59:10.700 expedition he took i went on way back machine uh he was looking for remnants of noah's ark
00:59:16.420 i don't know what that means but just found that to be interesting that he deletes his website on
00:59:20.480 july 12th according to the new york times president trump calls charlie angry and scolds him about his
00:59:25.980 event the day before and that he had turned in he had turned sass into an epstein grievance fest
00:59:33.160 so charlie's pushing the epstein stuff on july 14th charlie kirk goes on a show and he says he's
00:59:40.560 going to stop covering the epstein story and just trust his friends the administration he is under
00:59:45.140 pressure to stop speaking about jeffrey epstein uh do we have that clip sky let's play that clip
00:59:52.940 Plenty was said this last weekend at our event about Epstein.
00:59:56.560 Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being.
00:59:59.620 I'm going to trust my friends, the administration. 0.86
01:00:01.500 I'm going to trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it, balls
01:00:05.920 in their hands.
01:00:06.600 I've said plenty this last weekend.
01:00:08.600 So if you guys want to see my commentary on it, that's fine.
01:00:11.260 We have escalatory action potentially being taken in Ukraine and Russia.
01:00:16.880 We have tons of announcements happening when it comes to NATO.
01:00:19.880 But let me just say this again.
01:00:21.220 Everyone knows my opinion about the Epstein thing, the messaging fumble.
01:00:25.320 I would love to see the DOJ move to unseal the grand jury testimony.
01:00:29.920 I think that would be a big win.
01:00:31.440 I would love to see that.
01:00:32.940 And I'm going to trust my friends, Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, my friend, Pam Bondi, all these
01:00:37.560 guys, I'm going to, Todd Blanch, I'm going to trust them to solve it.
01:00:40.860 Ball's in their court.
01:00:42.300 I think that there was plenty of, let's say, speeches that were directed towards this topic
01:00:48.940 this last weekend.
01:00:49.700 So we don't need to spend our valuable time on this program, relitigating it.
01:00:57.300 Charlie is saying, I went max on F scene at SAS and I, we learned later, thanks to Tucker and
01:01:03.020 Megyn Kelly, that that was his intention. He wanted that out there. He wanted to hit hard
01:01:07.160 and he wanted to pressure and he played, you know, obviously paid dearly for that.
01:01:11.620 He says he's going to trust his friends to investigate. Okay. Let's go back into the timeline.
01:01:17.000 they said president trump gives him the call okay he says on his show he's going to stop
01:01:21.580 covering the epstein story on the 14th erica travels aboard a private flight to long beach
01:01:25.480 california um and she speaks at james caddis's calvary chapel church that's the james caddis
01:01:33.080 um you see him rolling with her to the court hearing she he's the one that she does the show
01:01:39.640 with and he is radically pro-israel radically pro-israel she gives a speech at his women's
01:01:48.420 summers of psalm retreat and she says bizarrely i said i'm writing bizarrely that she gives a
01:01:53.780 speech that's pro-israel about a call to arms despite what charlie's going through that's why
01:01:57.400 it's bizarre because you know the pressure that your husband is under donors are pulling out money
01:02:01.540 threatening him the president united states has called him and he's going max against the epstein
01:02:06.780 stuff and she's like just giving a speech that's i would say pro-israel then on july 18th that's
01:02:14.120 when the formal request came in from turning point usa to hold the event because they had to up their
01:02:20.220 club um annual administration and so they did that and then we have our egyptian planes that
01:02:30.260 come into Omaha, Nebraska, and then head to Lincoln, Nebraska. And then Charlie vacations in
01:02:39.760 Maine. And I'll tell you why this is interesting, because it's the first time Mikey McCoy and
01:02:44.380 Elizabeth join him, and they capture what's going to be Elizabeth and Mikey capture all this final
01:02:49.160 footage of Charlie and Erica that we're then going to be shown immediately after. It's not old
01:02:52.780 footage. It's final footage from this trip. She tries to hold his hands. The kids are walking.
01:02:59.860 all of this beautiful footage,
01:03:01.200 they must just have an eye for photography.
01:03:03.280 This is the first time they've done this.
01:03:04.460 They've all vacationed together.
01:03:08.420 July 25th,
01:03:11.060 Y-Refi comes in as the number one sponsor
01:03:14.120 for a Charlie Kirk fall tour.
01:03:16.400 That's Lane Schoenberger.
01:03:17.200 He's going to be there
01:03:18.000 when Charlie goes down.
01:03:22.540 His daughter's going to be there as well.
01:03:24.640 It's odd that he came in as a sponsor
01:03:27.600 on July 25th
01:03:28.440 Because he had already,
01:03:30.720 Y-Reef, I had already signed a contract in January
01:03:33.820 which covered events through the end of the year.
01:03:38.520 So he decides to re-up it,
01:03:41.400 offer Charlie more money.
01:03:43.480 Let's, hey, let me sponsor a fall tour for you
01:03:46.420 on July 25th.
01:03:50.120 What catalyzed this sudden addendum for a fall tour?
01:03:53.880 If you already had signed a contract
01:03:55.500 through the end of the year
01:03:56.200 and you said, I'm gonna do this event,
01:03:57.780 this event, this event, this event, this event. Why suddenly come in with an addendum and say,
01:04:01.920 hey, I'm going to give you more cash and I'd like to, you know, get behind your Charlie Kirk fall
01:04:06.500 tour? I don't know. I don't know the answer. I'm just asking questions. On July 27th, our Egyptian
01:04:15.560 plane leaves. It's the plane that's going to be there on the day of Charlie's assassination.
01:04:19.800 he departs wilmington delaware heads back to cairo on august 3rd charlie and erica land in
01:04:27.760 bedford new york for the hamptons retreat um that's one of the partner egyptian planes that
01:04:33.460 i have on there august 5th and sit through six the hamptons retreat which charlie will describe
01:04:38.480 as an intervention and you can go and listen to his comments after this retreat on the megan kelly
01:04:42.240 show the influencers trip is sponsored by bill ackman the very person that tucker carlson called
01:04:47.740 that on stage. During that time, Bibi Netanyahu, who did not kill Charlie Kirk, I want to be very
01:04:54.400 clear. He said it on Fox News, so it must be true. He's killed a lot of people. The IDF has killed a 0.80
01:05:01.140 ton of kids, but this, he wouldn't do that. No way. And he decides to call Charlie and he makes
01:05:11.940 an offer, I was told directly by Andrew Colvett to take Turning Point USA to the next level in
01:05:18.280 exchange for what? Nobody is interested in exchange for what Erica will claim, just to be fair to how
01:05:24.180 Turning Point has rebutted this privately to me, that he called, but it was just a follow-up to a
01:05:29.120 letter that Charlie had written him in May. She says there was no offer. She says, no, Andrew Colvett
01:05:33.500 said that. He was just calling to call. He's not busy, and he just wanted to see how Charlie is.
01:05:39.660 Okay. What we do know is that he invites Charlie to Israel and Charlie declined to go to Israel.
01:05:48.160 He also, Charlie also declined to have Bibi Netanyahu on his show.
01:05:50.860 So it's very clear which way the wind was blowing if he's covering Epstein, hosting people who, like Dave Smith versus Josh Hammer, allowing him to just absolutely destroy Josh Hammer in a debate.
01:06:03.920 what happens next on august 19th is cash patel visits the omaha nebraska field office i wonder
01:06:10.820 how often he does that no really i wonder so much that we filed an foia to see who was on the plane
01:06:15.920 and it came back and said that we have no right to have that information i mean what was the exact
01:06:21.440 response ashley they told us like that it would are we on a wait list for information or that it's
01:06:28.820 you'll have to pull it up but we did file an foia request because i thought oh that's interesting
01:06:32.460 what's going on in nebraska and i wanted to just know who was on the plane
01:06:36.740 and we were declined that information via an foia request
01:06:41.220 the exact language that we got back was we cannot confirm or deny the existence of such records
01:06:51.300 and the records we were seeking was who was on the plane with cash patel
01:06:55.320 wonderful um august 24th is when brian harpole claims that security began planning for the
01:07:06.220 event uv was not informed or included in that said planning on the military side of things
01:07:10.780 operation valhalla strike begins between civilians and the military in minnesota
01:07:16.600 it's an interesting name valhalla strike coordination between civilians and the military
01:07:23.000 I wonder what they were doing.
01:07:24.840 I'd like to know more about that.
01:07:27.300 Then, of course, as we just went over, on August 25th, the UVU major events meeting took place.
01:07:33.420 A Microsoft team's Turning Point sent people out to scout a location for their event.
01:07:39.000 I'm not sure if that's still accurate, but I have it on the timeline for some reason.
01:07:42.800 I don't have a link there.
01:07:43.800 The school suggests that they do not see Charlie in the epitheter.
01:07:46.580 Turning Point insists because of Macy Crofts.
01:07:49.340 UVU police ask her for a TPUSA security contact.
01:07:53.500 None is provided.
01:07:54.580 That's also, we will learn that if you read through the document,
01:07:57.580 that they requested that from her.
01:07:59.100 They never got it.
01:08:00.160 They then had to go back to Caleb and request,
01:08:03.080 which is what Jeff Long did on September 2nd,
01:08:06.800 going, I still don't have a contact.
01:08:08.500 And then finally, Dan Flood calls him the next day.
01:08:12.020 So that's what went down leading up to September 10th in Charlie's life.
01:08:19.340 So you're probably interested in Macy Crofts. And this is public information that she was the driver of the bus, so to speak. And she would be working with Andrew Seifer on this. He's the longtime head of the field. He is, I call him one of Tyler Boyer's guys, who was also present on that day.
01:08:42.640 But you just start to wonder if Charlie's texting people the night before saying that he thinks he's going to die and he's under a lot of pressure.
01:08:50.440 Why did no one shift this event inside?
01:08:52.800 In fact, it's noted in those documents that they could have just told him if Brian Harpo got on the ground and said, I don't like the way this feels.
01:08:59.740 And Frank Turk said, I don't like the way this feels.
01:09:02.040 They still could have accommodated them, potentially.
01:09:04.740 They could have moved the event inside, potentially.
01:09:06.760 They never communicated this to the police at UVU.
01:09:13.480 So you're like, who is Macy?
01:09:15.100 And, you know, in the background, I worked on everybody.
01:09:17.140 I've been working on everybody wanting to just know information about these people because I'm just trying to put together common themes.
01:09:23.560 And I want to be clear, this thread that I came across has nothing to do with Macy.
01:09:29.560 You can't control what your family does.
01:09:31.520 But, you know, when I learned that her father had passed suddenly and that her family was involved in law enforcement in Idaho, I did come across a very interesting case of her uncle.
01:09:46.040 In June of 2025, I should plot this actually on the timeline, that Macy Croft's uncle was charged for action out of school.
01:10:01.020 And I want to get these charges exactly right.
01:10:02.660 Her uncle is Kip Croft's.
01:10:05.340 A warrant was issued charging Kip Croft's, that's her dad's brother, with sexual abuse of a minor.
01:10:13.100 The girl was 14 years old.
01:10:14.640 he was arrested without incident in June of 2025 by Nampa police officers. Nampa, Idaho. Yes.
01:10:23.820 That is where Erica Kirk just did an event. When he arrived at his job, that's when they
01:10:29.220 apprehended him. He was accused of touching himself in a classroom while watching explicit
01:10:34.340 adult content in 2024. And then after, so he gets arrested in June. Then in November of 2025,
01:10:47.720 Croft's attorney argued for a dismissal, saying that while it was poor judgment for him to do
01:10:52.720 that and to leave the door unlocked, he was trying to conceal his actions when the minor walked in.
01:10:59.940 the judge in november had denied that dismissal and said there was
01:11:04.260 more than enough evidence to send things forward to a grand jury
01:11:08.540 the minor's testimony said that students regularly left their backpacks
01:11:12.860 in his classroom they picked them up after extracurricular activities
01:11:16.640 which he knew so she was going in to get her backpack
01:11:20.340 and came upon this um what then happened was the canyon county prosecuting attorney
01:11:26.940 Alana Minton, told the judge that a new piece of information came to light that we had previously
01:11:32.620 been unaware of. The new information was that the door to Croft's classroom may have been locked at
01:11:39.540 the time of the alleged incidents. They couldn't establish intent. It would be difficult for them
01:11:44.540 to prove his intent for a child to see him. So they're not disputing that he was doing what he
01:11:49.360 was doing. They're disputing the child's version of events and his version of events and establishing
01:11:55.620 intent. Anyway, he ends up getting this dropped. I'm going to let you listen to the news clips
01:12:01.860 on this. Take a listen. After months of court hearings and with trials set to begin next week,
01:12:08.920 the criminal case against former high school football coach Kip Crofts has been dismissed.
01:12:14.600 I'm a recalled neighborhood reporter Leslie Solis, and I was the only reporter in the courtroom as
01:12:18.800 prosecutors informed the judge that newly discovered information prevents them from
01:12:23.320 proceeding with a charge of sexual abuse of a child under 16. What had been headed towards a
01:12:29.380 jury trial instead came to a halt inside a King & County courtroom on Tuesday. The state is unable
01:12:35.060 to prove one of the elements of sexual abuse of a minor under 16, even by probable cause,
01:12:43.060 let alone beyond a reasonable doubt. The case centered on allegations that Crofts exposed
01:12:47.340 himself while watching explicit material in a Caldwell High School classroom with a 14-year-old
01:12:52.680 student present. Prosecutors told the court that information uncovered during final trial
01:12:58.420 preparation changed their ability to establish intent, a required part of the felony charge.
01:13:04.320 The dismissal in this case is appropriate. It would serve the ends of justice. The judge noted
01:13:09.780 the classroom was locked, not open, a distinction that directly affects how the intent would have
01:13:15.600 been evaluated. The state explored whether the case could move forward under a lesser misdemeanor
01:13:20.180 charge of indecent exposure, but told the court they were not permitted to modify the indictment.
01:13:26.080 The state makes an oral motion today moving to the court to dismiss this indictment.
01:13:30.660 That motion was granted, bringing the case to a close before a jury could hear it.
01:13:35.520 Outside the courtroom, the teen's father, who asked not to be identified to protect his daughter,
01:13:41.080 said the outcome leaves his family feeling unheard.
01:13:43.640 We're disappointed in how this was handled, that the truth didn't get out.
01:13:49.100 They felt my daughter, not me. It's not, you know, I feel like it's not about us. It's about the kids at school.
01:13:55.320 With the ruling, Croft's no contact order that applied to all minors was lifted. He was released from all pretrial restrictions.
01:14:03.960 I spoke with Croft's attorney, which he stated his client was never guilty of a crime and the dismissal before trial proves that.
01:14:11.600 I don't know. I've never dealt with a case in which tangentially there just seems to be so much human trafficking,
01:14:32.380 allegations of child sex abuse,
01:14:35.300 allegations that Erica was frequenting the office
01:14:40.960 that Jeffrey Epstein and his cohorts were frequenting.
01:14:45.860 I've never, never, ever, ever
01:14:48.600 could I have imagined this many common themes.
01:14:52.460 Again, Macy's not involved in this case.
01:14:54.000 This is her uncle.
01:14:55.040 But it got dropped on a technicality.
01:14:57.640 So he's not guilty.
01:14:58.880 His client, like you said, is not guilty.
01:15:00.520 It's not about whether he did it.
01:15:01.260 He did. He's not denying he did the thing. It's about establishing intent. And I guess you heard
01:15:06.700 it. You have to establish intent. And he says it was locked. And she says that it wasn't locked.
01:15:11.400 And, well, these things happen in Idaho. Anyway, we'll be right back after a break.
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01:17:10.360 slash Owens. What did Charlie Kirk find out about his organization in the days leading
01:17:18.620 up to his death? That's the question that I find myself asking. I'm going to think while it's still
01:17:24.000 legal i i i am um after reading this report your takeaway should be and you should go read it in
01:17:30.060 its entirety we're gonna talk more about the security next week because i need to do some
01:17:33.100 researching on new names that have been introduced and i want to make sure that i can um be 100
01:17:39.580 about what i'm going to say and that we are accurate in discussing what happened because
01:17:44.340 there's some very interesting information about what took place with all the coordinating agencies
01:17:48.300 But your main takeaway from today's episode should be the audacity of Turning Point USA over this last year. The audacity of Blake Neff, the audacity of Andrew Colbert, but most of all, the audacity of Erica.
01:18:04.980 The audacity of Erica to have a syndicate of pastors, a syndicate of filthy third-rate online trolls attacking us day in and day out for pointing out what seemed to be obvious.
01:18:23.040 When I said something's not right about how this event came together, now we learn this was just pushed by headquarters. 0.89
01:18:28.640 The list of TPUSA chapters that request to have Charlie speak be damned.
01:18:33.160 This has to happen.
01:18:34.980 We don't even know what kind of event's going to be,
01:18:36.700 but we know we need the courtyard.
01:18:38.520 The courtyard's got to happen.
01:18:41.300 The audacity of Erica Kirk.
01:18:47.780 I am just so sickened by how much power 0.95
01:18:52.140 and how much money is behind this.
01:18:54.340 How much power and how much money
01:18:55.640 and the audacity of President Donald Trump,
01:19:01.180 who Charlie did so much for.
01:19:03.860 was so close to the audacity of the neocons it's becoming clearer and clearer why they are invested
01:19:12.880 in this israel israel israel israel israel israel israel but to be clear bb netanyahu says he had
01:19:18.600 nothing to do with charlie's death you should take that at face value and erica is just a widow who
01:19:23.280 needs your support and the best way to support her is with your hard-earned dollars and i hope
01:19:27.600 that's what you get out of this i hope what you really get out of this report is that you should
01:19:31.840 start a Turning Point USA chapter at your local middle school? Because that's where she's doing
01:19:37.940 the rounds now, at middle schools. Not answering any of these questions. Could there be a rational
01:19:44.280 answer for why Turning Point USA did not want to participate in what they were already signaling
01:19:51.140 to the public? They're willing to speak to the press. They're willing to speak to CBS News,
01:19:54.480 ABC News, official spokespersons are coming out and saying the security did that.
01:20:01.840 but they were not willing to sit down with an independent review.
01:20:05.980 They could force Dan Flood to do that because he was their employee.
01:20:09.540 They didn't do that.
01:20:11.180 Why did they do that?
01:20:12.840 Why is it that Dan Flood didn't want to accept the raise and bonus that Erica offered?
01:20:19.720 If Caleb Chillicott was my kid, he would be participating in that.
01:20:24.400 I would force him to participate in that.
01:20:27.220 I would say you will have nothing to do with obscuring anything that went on that day.
01:20:34.340 Your name is already going to get dragged.
01:20:36.400 You did nothing wrong.
01:20:37.400 And I want to be clear, I think Caleb did nothing wrong at all.
01:20:42.100 He was told what to do by headquarters and he did it.
01:20:46.520 And I believe Macy was told what to do, likely by Andrew Seifer, who was promoted shortly thereafter to a chief position at the organization.
01:20:54.100 and i believe that he's always been based on my experience tyler boyer's guy and there were
01:21:01.920 rumblings early on that money was missing particularly from turning point action
01:21:05.720 which tyler boyer controls and i heard that from people at turning point usa and i heard it from a
01:21:12.380 person outside of turning point usa who knew charlie and said that charlie was gearing up
01:21:16.680 to fire, turning Tyler Boyer, the person who introduced him and Erica. Allegedly,
01:21:24.200 Mikey McCoy expressed to people that Charlie wanted to fire Tyler Boyer. Well, good news.
01:21:31.500 Tyler Boyer is not fired because Charlie is no longer here and Erica's in control and him and
01:21:38.300 Erica go back since before Erica knew Charlie. It's good to have those sorts of relationships.
01:21:45.780 You just wonder what those relationships are really about.
01:21:48.660 And I think we have demonstrated that there's a lot of smoke here.
01:21:53.380 In fact, I'd say this is a fire.
01:21:55.280 And I do just want to express, before we get into your comments, how positively sickened I am that a man could dedicate so much of his life to platforming so many individuals and all of them turn their back on him.
01:22:10.280 They're all betraying Charlie day in and day out.
01:22:12.220 All of those influencers that you see that are lying about things, obscuring, helping participate in the gaslighting of what's happened here, jumping on and saying, oh, it's so crazy.
01:22:21.960 Anybody would ever have a question about Erica Kirk?
01:22:25.660 Reading through this document should also sicken you.
01:22:31.020 Charlie was completely, he is abandoned every day by those people.
01:22:35.500 Every single day, they don't care.
01:22:36.560 They care about power.
01:22:37.300 They care about money.
01:22:38.020 They care about their next step.
01:22:39.000 They don't care about the truth.
01:22:39.920 And guess what?
01:22:40.860 They will all fail.
01:22:42.940 Every last single one of them will fail.
01:22:48.580 I'm gonna get to some of your comments.
01:22:51.120 U.S. flagpole guy writes, John 14, 6,
01:22:54.480 Jesus said to him,
01:22:55.420 I am the way, the truth, and the life.
01:22:57.240 No one comes to the Father except through me.
01:22:59.960 I command the truth and protection over Candace,
01:23:01.840 her family, and those who will not fall prey
01:23:03.500 of the demonic forces of evil.
01:23:04.980 In Jesus's name, amen.
01:23:06.580 Beautiful.
01:23:07.840 Amen.
01:23:09.180 Very scary.
01:23:09.800 Mary writes,
01:23:10.220 a small EMP could knock out security cameras
01:23:13.360 for two minutes.
01:23:14.800 Hmm.
01:23:16.920 Yeah, the EMP thing's certainly interesting.
01:23:19.220 And like I said, maybe we learn,
01:23:21.120 now I want that information,
01:23:22.720 maybe we learn that it was just a crazy guy
01:23:24.580 who says that all the time,
01:23:26.020 but it's a very particular thing to say,
01:23:29.460 especially when I told you
01:23:30.400 that the security cameras did go out.
01:23:32.520 They did go out for a couple of crucial minutes
01:23:36.120 shortly before Charlie got hit.
01:23:38.240 seven sheets writes we share your sense of anger and injustice battle button pregs with the boy
01:23:44.620 prayers and blessings i also hope you feel a wave of indication and the knowledge that charlie always
01:23:48.840 knew it was you is david we will always demand justice for him keep going max god bless that
01:23:54.000 makes i don't know why it makes me very emotional but yeah it makes me sad and it makes me emotional
01:23:58.300 because it's just like you know there were so many people that he helped to uplift in just in
01:24:04.400 the same way that he did me. And they all just don't care. It's all about money. And they do it
01:24:11.620 while pretending to be Christians, which is the worst part. Like I said to my husband today that 1.00
01:24:17.260 I, and I know I shouldn't say this, but I have to express it. And that I hate these people after
01:24:23.460 reading through that report. I hate these people for the year of gaslighting and the attempted
01:24:28.200 psychological torture that they put me through, knowing that I was telling the truth the whole
01:24:32.720 time when I just said, this is not how events come together. Something's not right. Something's
01:24:37.680 not right. The club president's request, they sit down, there's a meeting, where should we go?
01:24:41.240 What's on the map? They just gaslit me for an entire year while I was grieving and they weren't
01:24:44.840 grieving. None of them were grieving. I think in the future they will be grieving.
01:24:56.260 Tony Hill writes, hi Candice, it's my birthday today and you just made it so much better. I was
01:24:59.940 so happy when I got off work and saw that you were alive today. I just wanted to say thank you
01:25:03.000 for that gift and all that you do. I love you. As always, enjoy your weekend. Go, Max. Thank you,
01:25:08.020 Tony. Have a very happy birthday. And, you know, this weekend I'm going to dedicate myself to
01:25:12.940 getting further into these documents and mapping out more people and committing myself, as I have
01:25:21.140 over the last year, to justice for Charlie. Seven Sheets writes, we share, I'm sorry, Pam writes,
01:25:27.380 Pickles Magoon, how is your nasty drip drip going?
01:25:30.880 First super chat, but I had to.
01:25:32.260 This is the best Friday I've had in a long time.
01:25:34.100 I love you, Candice.
01:25:34.780 Keep pushing.
01:25:35.280 It's paying off.
01:25:36.340 It's funny because we had wondered at the beginning of this week
01:25:38.180 what was with this random push about Fort Huachuca
01:25:40.860 when we weren't discussing Fort Huachuca,
01:25:42.900 and now we know.
01:25:44.280 Preemptive strike.
01:25:46.260 Preemptive strike because we're just about to find out
01:25:47.860 that the Independent Review says Brian Harple's a liar. 0.99
01:25:51.380 Brian Harple's a liar. 0.99
01:25:52.440 He lied about all this other stuff, 0.99
01:25:53.740 but we should totally trust his lawyer filing
01:25:57.380 a lawsuit against me who came to you multiple times and simply said, hey, you got like an
01:26:03.260 alibi for this time. I'm happy. I don't know this guy, Mitch. Story seems credible. He probably
01:26:08.440 maybe just saw a face and thought it was you. I don't know. I didn't have a horse in the race.
01:26:14.560 They always let you know when something is coming that is devastating to the narrative because
01:26:18.160 they start sending out the rats and the cockroaches. It's an obvious pattern by now.
01:26:25.020 random attacks, very aggressive.
01:26:30.740 I mean, this week I also had a random story
01:26:33.280 completely untrue that I accepted,
01:26:34.900 tried to heavily imply the New York Post,
01:26:37.000 you know, Israel's publication,
01:26:38.920 that I accepted $1.5 million from Harvey Weinstein
01:26:42.620 to interview him.
01:26:43.500 What are you talking about?
01:26:44.980 Not a single red cent did I accept from Harvey Weinstein.
01:26:47.160 They ran the story anyways.
01:26:48.760 After not contacting me at all,
01:26:51.660 despite having my PRs contact for years,
01:26:55.020 Yeah, all of that was coming down for a reason.
01:27:01.280 Just a Love in Life writes,
01:27:02.560 thank you, Candice, for never letting up
01:27:03.780 on Charlie's investigation.
01:27:05.000 Emergency, live, battle bond activated.
01:27:07.200 We need truth and justice for Charlie.
01:27:09.020 I have serious concerns about Turning Point USA.
01:27:11.020 Follow every lead.
01:27:11.860 Christ is king.
01:27:12.920 Thank you for forever going, Max.
01:27:15.460 Thank you.
01:27:16.900 SJ writes, July 10th was the request for UVU.
01:27:19.800 How close to the UVU terrorist drill was this?
01:27:23.260 Didn't they just do that drill around then?
01:27:24.880 keep going max. That drill was on June 17th. I should have included June because June was also
01:27:29.680 when, um, what did Bibi do in June? Hold on, I actually have the timeline here, the one that
01:27:36.440 goes above that. June was when Charlie got into it with Bibi at the White House. And then, um,
01:27:43.640 in that same day, Erica purged her Instagram. June 18th and 19th is when Charlie went to the White 0.66
01:27:48.580 House and won the debate against the Zionist lobbyists regarding going to war, um, with Iran.
01:27:54.880 And then on June 19th, Erica purchased her Instagram. And on June, yeah, that's leading up to June. And then we had Operation Midnight Hammer, which was Trump agreed to do to bomb Fordow and nuclear sites.
01:28:11.620 yeah and then on june 26th is when suddenly claire guinan writes her first article for
01:28:21.560 jezebel she's going to be the one that writes the article about the witch's curse she had no
01:28:25.440 writing profile before that new writer so that was a big week as well you are correct i mean a big
01:28:31.140 month as well rachel meow writes principal i did not read ahead i swear i just downloaded the report
01:28:40.280 to read along, Promise Love from Houston.
01:28:42.480 You can read ahead, read the entire document,
01:28:45.440 do what I do, mark it up, highlight it,
01:28:47.860 take notes, research on the side.
01:28:49.800 That's what I'll be spending this weekend doing.
01:28:52.560 And we will speak more about that EMP threat
01:28:56.400 that came in on the morning of.
01:28:59.500 It's a very, very specific kind of threat.
01:29:02.300 Like I said, perhaps that organization told the truth
01:29:05.120 and it was nothing, but nothing is nothing to me.
01:29:08.980 I have to explore every single lead, and that seems very particular to me.
01:29:16.720 Hopefully, this review helps Blake sort through and start to remember some things that happened that day.
01:29:23.860 And if nothing else, it certainly helps us to determine the character of the people who Charlie surrounded himself with.
01:29:33.040 But in the end, I am fully confident that he woke up to what was happening.
01:29:37.200 he was terrified but he marched on anyway and he knew that this was going to be the ending for him
01:29:43.480 and there is uh something it's tragic and it's beautiful at the same time that charlie still
01:29:50.360 went ahead with the event and um things are going exactly as he thought his death is leading to a
01:29:56.540 wider awakening anyway you guys um that we're probably going to take monday off we might take
01:30:03.660 a couple of days off here. What are we like? Just because I feel like I need to do a lot of research
01:30:07.400 and I want to make sure that we are dedicated to having accurate information. As I always say,
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