Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 27, 2026


Blake's Major LOSS - and EPIC Backlash !!

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00:00:00.000 This is getting funnier and funnier by the minute.
00:00:08.340 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk, I'm Terci Flore, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:17.460 Okay, my favorite headline today reads,
00:00:20.020 Blake Lively faces Justin Baldoni legal setback after her birthday as Ryan Reynolds calls her a genius.
00:00:30.000 I'm sure you all read the news about how much Blake Lively is getting in attorney's fees.
00:00:35.560 Turns out the judge agreed basically with the wayfarer parties and gave her $400,000 instead of $8 million.
00:00:45.540 And now, of course, her attorneys are making this into a big win because it was never about the money.
00:00:54.760 This is getting funnier and funnier by the minute.
00:00:58.040 And I found this particularly funny because it's coming from her attorneys who made approximately about $25 to $40 million from Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds.
00:01:12.880 And keep in mind here that the judge said that this ask was ridiculous or unreasonable.
00:01:18.700 And that's why he only gave her 5%.
00:01:21.280 That makes me believe that he's pretty fed up with the shenanigans of Blake Lively and her team.
00:01:26.960 And that is a sign to me that he is ready for this big unsealing that he just announced before he gave her this tiny amount of attorney's fees.
00:01:38.820 We are about to see a lot of new evidence drop in this case, and I can't wait for it.
00:01:45.720 And as promised, I knew, I said the other day, that we are going to see a lot of family-oriented fluff pieces in the media about Blake and Ryan in the very near future.
00:01:57.820 And guess what? Voila! We did.
00:02:01.920 And as I said the other day, wait for that People magazine article about when Ryan Reynolds is praising his wife on her birthday.
00:02:11.660 And guess what? Voila! That happened too.
00:02:15.720 let's get into all of that and also let's look at this post that ryan reynolds just liked about
00:02:21.400 perez hilton where he says why do we only find the compassion to recognize mental health concerns
00:02:28.120 once someone is hospitalized and not before yeah isn't that interesting that less than a year
00:02:35.880 after him and his wife blake lively terrorized perez hilton to a breaking point according to
00:02:43.160 Perez himself, is now saying that we should recognize mental health issues before people
00:02:50.100 end up in the hospital.
00:02:54.880 I really feel like I'm being punished.
00:03:01.620 Let's get into all of that.
00:03:03.820 Anyways, if you haven't subscribed yet, just a reminder, please do that and hit the notification
00:03:08.380 bell so you never miss an episode as well.
00:03:11.260 Anyways, let's get into this craziness that's happening right now.
00:03:15.280 The headlines, of course, are everywhere.
00:03:18.080 Blake and her terrible, terrible PR team was not expecting the press to react the way that they did.
00:03:24.440 Because I haven't really found anyone covering this, except from Deadline, which I'll get into shortly.
00:03:30.720 But I haven't seen anyone else covering this, saying that this is like a historic win or whatever,
00:03:37.080 the headlines that Blake Lively was looking for.
00:03:39.680 everyone is basically saying the same thing she asked for eight million and she just got 400.
00:03:45.420 Of course you have headlines like the Daily Mail and page six and of course the Daily Mail is
00:03:52.060 calling this humiliating here but let's look at how the libelous attorneys managed to spin this
00:03:58.920 into a victory again. According to TMZ here who got some quotes from both parties here I'll get
00:04:06.700 into what brian friedman said later they say here blake's lawyers ezra hudson and michael got
00:04:12.080 michael gottlieb told us justin baldoni and the wayfair parties lost their meritless retaliatory
00:04:19.660 400 million dollar lawsuit which two different courts held was designed to stifle public criticism
00:04:27.620 and silence blake lively and others no one ever found that because it never went to discovery
00:04:35.660 his case was dismissed due to technicalities that he wasn't allowed to sue her for defamation
00:04:41.800 because she accused him of sh remember that so no court find that this lawsuit was designed
00:04:49.120 to stifle public criticism or silas blake lively that is a blatant lie and then they continue the
00:04:57.980 first ever award of fees and cost on a california law is historic yeah every time it is a first time
00:05:05.320 it is historically the first time anyways and demonstrates that there are real consequences
00:05:11.500 of bringing retaliatory lawsuit as we have paid said from day one blake lively's case was never
00:05:17.640 it was never about money it was about accountability but so first they say here
00:05:23.560 that it demonstrates that there are real consequences of bringing retaliatory lawsuits
00:05:28.000 okay so he she got four hundred thousand dollars and she spent about as i said like 30 40 million
00:05:38.780 dollars on this to prove a point okay because it was not never about the money as they're saying
00:05:45.060 here which is also debatable because they've changed their mind a few times already of what
00:05:50.900 this lawsuit was all about. Just listen to these few quotes that they said themselves to the media
00:05:58.220 only this year. This is from only 2026. On January 22nd, Macaulay, this PR attorney that Blake Lively
00:06:06.400 hired to look like a victim, said to Extra, this case is not about those individuals talking about
00:06:14.640 other celebrities that have likely dragged into this. This case is about her, her performing her
00:06:21.180 job in the workplace and being subjected to SH. That's it. That's what this case is about.
00:06:28.780 She said in January of this year, in April of this year, McAuley said the case was always about
00:06:36.980 retaliation she said to abc this case has always been and will remain focused on the devastating
00:06:45.220 retaliation and the extraordinary step the defendants took to destroy blake live's reputation
00:06:50.640 because before she stood up for safety on the set and that is the case that is going to trial
00:06:57.120 now she only stood up for safety because her sh claims were dismissed by the judge so he didn't
00:07:04.340 believe there was any sh so then macaulay had to change her language up a little bit then yesterday
00:07:10.640 the quote was this as we've said from day one blake lovey's case was never about money it was
00:07:16.600 about accountability you see how they're spinning this as we go along here anyways her lawyers
00:07:24.980 continue to say that as the recent news in the rebel wilson amanda ghost case demonstrated
00:07:30.100 Well, the recent news actually, to be honest, in this case is that Rebel Wilson won a defamation case against her in Australia that was brought against her by Charlotte McInnes.
00:07:45.360 So Rebel Wilson actually just had a victory.
00:07:48.540 The other part of that lawsuit will be here in the U.S.
00:07:52.200 And there's no judgment in that case.
00:07:54.420 When I look at the evidence in that case, I have to be honest, it looks a bit shady.
00:07:58.540 It looks like Rebel Wilson was going after Amanda Ghost, but I'm not going to get further into that right now.
00:08:04.500 But anyways, it says here that Blake Lively's lawsuit exposed an industry of secret online smear campaigns that largely target women.
00:08:14.200 Well, that's also interesting because they're mentioning here that Rebel Wilson, who's a woman herself, is the one who smeared Amanda Ghost.
00:08:23.020 just so largely target women yeah let's make it as vague as possible because this case is actually
00:08:30.460 a woman that's accused of smearing someone anyways and unsurprisingly involved the same players
00:08:36.940 she lifted the curtain for other victims and set the precedent for others to come forward and 1.00
00:08:43.120 expose similar contacts if anyone wants to come forward after this and accuse someone of smearing
00:08:50.160 them I wish them luck because this has cost Blake Lively about 40 billion dollars or whatever
00:08:58.040 plus her career plus her reputation plus her husband's reputation plus it has really damaged
00:09:07.360 her husband's career as well and now they're ridiculed and humiliated all over the place
00:09:13.580 so yeah this set a precedence for others to come forward and expose similar conduct
00:09:19.100 And then they end it here saying, this results demonstrate that the legal system is not as easily manipulated as social media.
00:09:28.740 They really tried so hard to manipulate the legal system, by the way. 1.00
00:09:34.060 And she spent millions of dollars trying to twist the truth in the legal system. 1.00
00:09:40.020 So don't even go there. 0.96
00:09:41.540 And they say that it's more that it's not as easily manipulated as social media and still functions as a force for accountability.
00:09:50.820 Yeah, let's look into what Brian Friedman said about this.
00:09:54.020 So he was also interviewed or he gave a statement.
00:09:57.000 So he's saying here to TMZ that he has mixed feelings about the 400,000 attorneys fees judgment awarded to Blake Lively.
00:10:05.220 because while it's a win for his client he's still unhappy with the way the law was applied to this
00:10:11.320 case and he's taking a shot at Blake. Brian Friedman tells TMZ here that the California law
00:10:17.960 used in this case section 47.1 is not a perfect law but it is an important one designed to protect
00:10:24.340 real survivors who deserves to see the law tested and perfected in the court of law. As we all know
00:10:31.440 the author of this law was against Blake Lively getting her attorney's fees and that's the end
00:10:39.580 of it that's all we need to know okay so let's jump to Ryan Reynolds and his beautiful message
00:10:46.000 for his wife one day too late for her birthday I have a feeling that he wasn't there physically
00:10:52.020 for her birthday and then Leslie Sloan probably put together this reel for him to honor his wife
00:10:59.160 on her birthday and as projected what i said two days ago that people magazine would make an article
00:11:06.420 exactly like this and happy birthday to blake lively it is her birthday today and i can't wait
00:11:13.500 for people magazine to make an article about how ryan reynolds has said happy birthday to his wife
00:11:21.560 throughout the years it's so funny it says here that ryan reynolds celebrates courageous blake
00:11:28.900 lively on her 39th birthday as the very best human I know. If she is the best human he knows,
00:11:37.620 he must know a lot of terrible, terrible humans. I wonder, by the way, how Ryan is going to
00:11:44.640 celebrate his 50th birthday in October. How many celebrities are going to show up there?
00:11:49.840 I only know one, which is Hugh Jackman at this point. But anyways, let's get into his message
00:11:55.740 to his wife that people magazine made this beautiful article about he said august 25th
00:12:03.980 is the family super bowl happy birthday to the very best human i know you're not just another
00:12:10.320 courageous and deeply kind genius yeah i'm not even going to comment on that you're also
00:12:18.860 unreasonably cute i know how lucky i am that you were born every time i ever hit my head
00:12:25.420 it's your life that flashes before my eyes how romantic ryan anyways of course people magazine
00:12:33.160 were like oh my god let's put a team on this story and i did notice that one of the journalists
00:12:40.820 they actually had two journalists write this story about this post one of them is more senior
00:12:46.940 and then one of them is an intern so can you imagine they had two journalists on a story like
00:12:54.560 this i mean it's crazy and after this uh they also mention here that hugh jackman commented
00:13:01.000 happy birthday blake and then they are adding some context here and this is amazing they're
00:13:10.480 saying lively's birthday come after a busy year for the actress who has continued to balance her
00:13:15.940 career what career with family life the another simple favorite star shares daughters james enos
00:13:25.060 betty and son all in with reynolds balancing her career and they say here lively's 39th birthday
00:13:32.200 comes amid the ongoing legal fallout it's not ongoing okay they settled uh from it ends with
00:13:39.800 us. In December, Lively sued, 2024, Lively sued the film director and co-star, accusing him of
00:13:45.880 SHM retaliation. And that's all they have to say about that. They're not saying that the judge
00:13:51.640 tossed all of this out. And then they're adding, Baldoni, 42, has denied the allegations and later
00:13:58.860 filed a 400 million countersuit against Lively, Reynolds and others alleging defamation and breach
00:14:05.660 of contract that suit was later dismissed no mention of blake lively's case being dismissed
00:14:13.080 his entire case wasn't dismissed we all remember i think the judge dismissed three out of seven
00:14:19.620 claims which was the most important claims he didn't dismiss this whole case with lively the
00:14:25.640 judge dismissed 10 out of 13 claims people magazine was like well that's not important
00:14:32.540 And then the adding here, Lively's lawyers are seeking more than $8 million in legal fees.
00:14:39.000 This story dropped before we learned that she only got $400,000.
00:14:46.620 And it says there, despite the legal drama, Lively has continued to look ahead professionally.
00:14:52.460 In August of 2025, Lionsgate announced that she would produce and star in The Survivalist, an actual rom-com.
00:14:59.860 the project was her first new film announced since it ends with us yeah and we know the status of
00:15:06.580 that by the way i've talked about that movie and not too long ago so no other human beings are
00:15:13.780 attached to this project except from a writer i think it was who is totally unknown the guy who
00:15:21.600 was producing this movie just dropped off quietly just disappeared so no people are attached to
00:15:29.040 this project that has moved nowhere in over a year but according to people she's juggling her
00:15:36.720 career here and if that wasn't enough people magazine got really worried that ryan forgot
00:15:42.600 about blake's birthday so they had to make another birthday story on her on her actual birthday so
00:15:50.140 they did this story the day before blake lively and ryan reynolds family photos see every rare
00:15:55.300 pic they've shared the gossip girl actress who turns 39 on august 25th shares james enos bedding
00:16:02.080 with her husband of 14 years and then they add all these public photos from the events when ryan was
00:16:13.200 getting his walk of fame star so these are not rare pictures by the way that they shared uh just
00:16:21.260 to put that out there these are photos that people magazine found in their photo base and added them 0.96
00:16:29.320 and then made a lot of like stupid comments under each picture look oh one of their children is 0.86
00:16:35.940 smiling and look here oh ryan is holding his child i mean and they even have a comment like this 0.98
00:16:43.580 james is her mom's mini me she also she's also pretty famous on her own she's featured on taylor
00:16:50.260 Swift song, Gorgeous. Yeah, they went there pretending that they're still friends. I mean,
00:17:00.220 this is outrageous. We need a press police. Also this story in E! News, Ryan Reynolds makes Blake
00:17:06.580 Lively's 39th birthday with sweet glimpse of their kids. Remember I said we're going to see
00:17:13.520 a lot of these family oriented stories about the two of them and their children and he's such a
00:17:21.040 loving husband coming out in the very near future yeah it's so predictable at this point it's not
00:17:29.000 even funny anymore anyways let's look at this post that ryan reynolds liked from his buddy on
00:17:36.560 Instagram. The one who's making his life and work all about trying to bring down Justin Baldoni.
00:17:45.100 I spoke about him before. This guy is a crazy conspiracy theorist and Ryan Reynolds is liking
00:17:52.340 everything that he does including this post about Perez. Let's get into this but before we talk 0.74
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00:19:36.840 Ryan Reynolds is liking everything this anti-Baldoni content creator is putting out there.
00:19:44.060 And one of the posts is this one about Perez Hilton. So he did a Substack article about what
00:19:53.160 happened to Perez. And I read the entire thing. And he teased it like this, saying Perez Hilton's
00:20:00.240 recent public mental health crisis has provoked a complicated conversation about mental health
00:20:06.520 compassion and accountability. One that asks the question, why do we only find the compassion to
00:20:13.240 recognize mental health concerns once someone is hospitalized and not before? I went into his
00:20:20.360 substack to read this article before I commented on Ryan Reynolds liking this. So in this article
00:20:27.820 he goes through Perez Hilton's problematic past while he was going after celebrities and he
00:20:34.080 especially points out how he was calling Blake lively names and how he was going after her.
00:20:41.780 And he states this in the article saying Perez's decline was public and visible for months and
00:20:50.000 only serves to prove how badly we're failing at this, even when the warning signs are front and
00:20:56.980 center. The sad and unfortunate consequence of a culture that has been built to treat mental health
00:21:03.640 as a hashtag a concern to pay lip service but otherwise largely ignore and then of course he
00:21:11.060 takes the opportunity to call out me and also zach peter who commented on perez mental breakdown
00:21:19.860 and then in the next sentence we're calling out stories about psychopaths and narcissists
00:21:25.980 and he's basically saying here that we shouldn't do that because here we see someone who's
00:21:33.160 struggled so then we shouldn't point out people basically like Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively
00:21:39.260 that's what he's trying to that's what he's trying to say here and I find the irony here just so
00:21:46.100 striking because as you know this this guy's entire Instagram is only about smearing Justin
00:21:54.200 Baldoni and trying to ruin this man and his family, because that's what he's doing as well,
00:22:00.100 by spreading conspiracy theories about them. And he knows that these are conspiracy theories.
00:22:06.420 I don't believe that this guy is sitting, spending so much time making these posts that he makes
00:22:13.500 zero money on because he's got so few likes and views on these things. So he's not even making
00:22:20.120 money on it. So what is his motivation for doing this? Anyways, let's get back to Ryan Reynolds
00:22:27.900 because Ryan likes this post that talks about how we should have compassion for people's mental
00:22:34.580 illness before they end up in the hospital. Because as this guy said, the signs were there
00:22:40.560 for months. So let's go back a few months. Let's go back and look at what Blake Lively and Ryan
00:22:47.840 Reynolds did to Perez Hilton and how that affected his mental health I really feel like I'm being
00:22:59.140 punished because not only is my anxiety already off the charts from yesterday but you know me
00:23:10.420 I have self-diagnosed OCD and like I instantly went into panic and survival mode
00:23:17.740 perez was very open and transparent about what it was like for him to go through this terror or this
00:23:26.020 horror that blake and ryan put him through he learned through tmz that he was subpoenaed by
00:23:33.440 blake lively and perez got a very broad subpoena it was a personal subpoena it wasn't like me
00:23:39.600 and all the other 106 content creators who were subpoenaed who who had their google account
00:23:45.780 subpoena they subpoenaed everything from perez hilton his personal email phone text messages
00:23:53.220 like every single thing because they wanted to see his sources they wanted to strip him from his
00:24:00.060 first amendment rights and perez went on youtube and talked about how this has caused him to almost
00:24:07.940 break down i am like running on fumes right now as they say i am
00:24:16.300 i don't take any anxiety meds or anything like that but if i had some i would take it now
00:24:33.080 jesus christ
00:24:35.200 i wish you could like hear it like it's like beating so fast and like i can hear it i can
00:24:43.640 hear i'm great i'm so unwell you can clearly see how distressed he is about this entire situation
00:24:53.400 he's talking about how he can barely breathe how this is so intimidating how he feels so small
00:25:00.780 how this is taking over his life, that he's not able to do his work anymore, because all he can
00:25:06.820 focus on right now is to fight the subpoena. I interviewed Perez Hilton about this, and we
00:25:12.800 talked about how stressful this had been for him and his family. And as he mentioned many times,
00:25:19.080 the financial stress as well. At the end, he did get free legal help to fight this. And that's when
00:25:25.120 Blake Lively just backed off, because as you know, she was never interested in any of this
00:25:30.380 information, she backed off on every single subpoena she sent to content creators and
00:25:36.760 journalists. The only reason she did it was to intimidate and try to silence us. So isn't it 1.00
00:25:42.560 just amazing that Ryan Reynolds likes this post after how much he contributed to put stress and
00:25:52.000 pressure into Paris Hilton's life. And especially because the guy, his new buddy on Instagram,
00:25:58.960 is saying that we should recognize these things before they end up in the hospital and I'm sure
00:26:04.600 Ryan was watching these videos that Perez made about how this was affecting his mental health
00:26:11.320 and wellness and the irony is just complete that this guy this ex-patriarch guy is is making a post
00:26:21.200 like this when his life mission seems to be to ruin people's lives to ruin Justin Baldoni
00:26:28.780 and his family, his wife, his children, Jamie Heath's wife and children, and Steve Serowicz
00:26:34.660 and his wife and children. He doesn't care at all. I mean, I can't even begin to imagine
00:26:41.240 what this has been like for Emily Baldoni and, of course, Justin himself. I think it's a miracle
00:26:48.960 that they're still standing after all of this. And for this guy to have the audacity to ask
00:26:55.880 people about compassion while he is doing the exact opposite thing every single day by the
00:27:04.320 support of ryan reynolds it is just mind-blowing to me anyways i wanted to end this episode by
00:27:11.720 showing you how much support ryan reynolds is getting for his next apple movie so let's just
00:27:18.560 roll all the comments here i wonder how many people are going to end their subscription with
00:27:24.940 apple tv after this anyways that's it for me guys thank you so much for watching and of course thanks
00:27:31.520 to oscar my executive producer i couldn't do this without him he is just the best
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