Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - January 23, 2026


Blake's Nuclear Texts to SECRET Friend !!

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Blake Wively and co-star Brandon Sklenor have a heated conversation about Justin Baldoni. She accuses him of being a monster and smears him to a friend. We also have a new text message from Jamie Heat calling Blake Wively a monster.

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00:00:00.000 She told him that he made her feel like and he started crying and then she's making fun of that
00:00:05.940 and saying that it was a performance. Hi and welcome to Blossom Talk. I'm Sjashti Floor,
00:00:15.520 journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:21.820 There is so much going on today you guys. There's so much new stuff coming out. There's so much to
00:00:27.800 go through and I already published one episode today but we have so much more to talk about so
00:00:32.900 here we go again. I wanted to share with you some of the conversation that's been unsealed between
00:00:38.900 Blake Wively and her co-stars and how she manipulated them to go against Justin Baldoni and also how she
00:00:46.500 S-H Brandon Sklenor in a text message and we also have to talk about the lies she spread to Colin 0.59
00:00:53.620 Hoover about Justin and we have a new very interesting text mail message from Jamie Heat
00:00:59.980 calling Blake Wively a monster. This is actually the first time I've heard him say anything negative
00:01:05.740 about her and we have to talk about this email that Blake Wively sent to this person she was doing
00:01:11.480 another movie with lying her teeth out saying that Justin was fired by Sony and she had to take over
00:01:19.840 the movie. We also have a thread of text messages where Blake Wively is smearing Justin Baldoni to
00:01:26.320 a friend. I don't know who this friend is yet but maybe you guys can help me out here. So here we have
00:01:31.960 a conversation between Blake Wively and her co-star Brandon Sklenor. As you know he played her other
00:01:39.800 love interest in the movie It Ends With Us and after he played her co-star Blake recommended him
00:01:46.180 to Paul Feig who then cast him in a movie that's out now called The Housemaid. Blake Wively and Paul
00:01:53.920 Feig are very close and he directed her in a simple favor and another simple favor and he's one of the
00:02:00.560 very few people who's been out there publicly supporting Blake. So Brandon played along with
00:02:06.000 Blake and as we know now that really benefited him. So here is the conversation between Brandon
00:02:12.740 and Blake. This is on the 24th of May so a few months before the premiere. So Brandon is responding
00:02:22.260 to Blake saying hi so sorry for the delay. I'm sure this goes for him as well that he felt really
00:02:27.900 pressured by Blake to take her side because during this whole conversation it's pretty obvious that he
00:02:34.660 doesn't want to take part in smearing Justin. So he's attaching some stuff here I don't know what that
00:02:40.500 is and loved an audio message that Blake had sent him. Then it's just a lot of internal talk here
00:02:45.480 and then Blake is saying to Brandon you'll be busy in Dallas instead and then she's adding
00:02:54.140 I'm becoming pimp adjacent put on a short little skirt and get on that corner Sklenor. She spells his 0.77
00:03:02.760 last name wrong. She's asking him to put on a little skirt and get on that corner like a prostitute 1.00
00:03:09.620 and she's saying because I'm not selling his movie on him meaning that she's not selling this movie 0.98
00:03:15.300 on Justin. She wants to sell this movie on Brandon and that's why she wants him to dress in a little
00:03:22.540 skirt and get on the corner. And then she's saying to Brandon he's really good in it talking about
00:03:27.840 Justin's performance. I made sure of it because he's the abuser and it shouldn't be and it shouldn't
00:03:35.280 be centered on him regardless of the process. I hope your show gives you space to hustle. So Brandon
00:03:43.360 is a part of this tv show that he talked about he's very busy and she continues to say especially
00:03:48.220 once it comes out week two will be a time that it will get especially heated for you. Just something
00:03:54.740 to think about and maximize. So I don't know if she's thinking that it will be heated for him because
00:04:00.240 of all the backlash he'll be receiving because of her or if she's saying that it will be heated to
00:04:05.640 him in a positive way that he will receive a lot of attention. And then she's sending some more gifts.
00:04:10.560 She keeps sending these gifts. I think it's to mock Justin. I don't know. And then Brandon keeps just
00:04:15.360 liking things and loving things and laughing at things. He's not really commenting back. Then Brandon
00:04:21.920 responds. They're saying I'm working on it. They're particularly shitty about that but I'm going to do
00:04:25.600 everything I can to make it happen. It would be a crime not to ride the momentum. And then Blake says
00:04:30.660 it would be get Warren on that. So now it actually turns out there that they have the same agent.
00:04:37.760 Warren Zavala. I read a lot of text messages between Ryan Reynolds and Warren Zavala the other day
00:04:44.420 when he was putting pressure on him to get Justin Baldoni to write this statement that to take all
00:04:51.280 responsibility for everything that went wrong with the promotional events with us. So now it turns
00:04:55.500 out actually that Brandon Sklenar has the same agents. Of course that makes a lot of sense.
00:05:01.720 And so then Blake says get Warren on that. And then Brandon says on it. And then Blake says
00:05:08.720 bank some beforehand and maybe there's something you can do in Austin too. It doesn't really matter.
00:05:15.280 The impact will be evergreen. But as someone whose show kept me from every opportunity outside of it,
00:05:21.640 I look back now and see how shitty that was and how I could have along with my team pushed harder to
00:05:27.840 make space for the few moments I needed during production to honor the work I did outside of it.
00:05:33.280 So she's basically telling Brandon here who had a role in the TV show 1923 that they're not treating
00:05:40.180 him well because they should allow him to do these things outside of that TV show. And the same thing
00:05:46.680 happened to her with Gossip Girl when she was on that show. And she regrets that now that she didn't
00:05:51.760 push for them to let her do more stuff outside of it. So it seemed to me here that she's saying like,
00:05:57.340 hey, screw them. Come and promote this movie with me instead. And then she continues to manipulate him 1.00
00:06:03.540 here saying they feel like you owe them. So they tend to attempt to dim your light so you don't outgrow them.
00:06:10.260 And it has the opposite effect than they intend. It makes you resent. It makes you resent them and want
00:06:17.340 to get out. So she's just basically projecting her experience on Gossip Girl to his experience
00:06:23.680 on being on 1923 here. If they just made space for you to do the work you needed in a way that worked
00:06:32.240 for everyone, you would be indebted and grateful. At least that was my experience on my show. It was all
00:06:38.700 of hours. So she's talking for everyone on Gossip Girl now that it was everyone's experience that the
00:06:43.740 show made them feel like they owed them. So Brandon responds here saying, thankfully, we only have
00:06:49.040 seven episodes left. It was only meant to be the eight and they added seven more as soon as we started
00:06:54.600 the first eight. Now, no more shows after this. That's for damn sure. I'm on for 14th to 16th in Texas.
00:07:02.020 And then Blake says, yes, queen. If you're going to go back to LA, you can ride with me and my baby
00:07:10.980 boy. And Brandon says, I will be. And then he continues, I have a birthday party in SB on Sunday.
00:07:19.220 Blake says, I have Father's Day in LA with Ryan and kids. So we'll leave early Sunday. And then she
00:07:24.640 adds, and because Justin speaks to my dead father, maybe he can help let him know I'm in LA for Father's
00:07:30.400 Day. Brandon laughs at that. And then he says, perfect. What time are you thinking on Sunday?
00:07:36.200 And she says, I don't know, like seven or eight, depending on flight time to LA. It will be quicker
00:07:41.300 because it's private. So she's flying private here. I'm sure she added that cost to the production as
00:07:47.200 well. So Wayfair parties had to pay for her flying private everywhere. And then they're talking about
00:07:51.860 when they'll be there around 10 p.m. The screening's at 10 p.m. So it's late, blah, blah, blah. And
00:07:57.720 Brandon says, I can be there. And then Blake says, she loves that. And Blake adds here,
00:08:03.420 but Justin is emailing today saying he took some things from my cut. So I felt acknowledged
00:08:07.720 and can move forward. And he's locking his cut before the bake-off. This bake-off she keeps
00:08:12.760 talking about is when they're showing both versions of the movie to Sony and they're supposed to choose
00:08:18.040 the best one, which they never did. But anyways, and Brandon says, wow. And Blake says, he's batshit.
00:08:24.580 And she continues, he wasn't authorized to watch my cut yet, but went into the Avid to watch and then
00:08:31.880 to take things from it. He wasn't authorized to watch my cuts. This is his movie. I mean,
00:08:39.180 this is so crazy. And Brandon says, well, it will still be yours in the end. And then she says,
00:08:46.240 it won't be a Frankenstein cut. It will be his or mine in their entirety. And Brandon says,
00:08:53.160 thank God, I'll be yours. Can't believe he did that. I mean, I can. He's definitely scrambling,
00:08:59.740 Brandon says. Also totally effing himself for any future work, Brandon's culinary says about Justin
00:09:05.960 here. So now he's warming up to smearing Justin a little bit more here. And Blake says, oh, you don't
00:09:10.640 know the first of it. And Blake continues to say, yeah, the crazy thing is, I would have continued to
00:09:17.300 let him take credit for everything. Why is it in her power to let him take credit for anything?
00:09:21.960 He would have been handed a career really because of her. He would have been effed on his next job,
00:09:29.000 but he at least would have been a big success and he'll still hit. But the word is out. And I've
00:09:36.000 been protecting it from getting out because all I want to do is focus on the work and not be pulled
00:09:43.320 into the effing effing mess they made. But they wreak havoc everywhere they go and everyone sees it.
00:09:52.740 Then they come to me. Really? So Blake is the savior here and she's not the one creating all this mess,
00:10:00.580 going to everyone around her, backstabbing the wayfar parties. No, it's them. And this is interesting
00:10:08.760 because now she's trying to make Brandon admit he said something that he can't even remember.
00:10:15.140 He said something hushed to you on the set of Root, but I didn't hear the rest. He said,
00:10:21.320 oh man, I have something to tell you, but I'll probably get counsel for saying it.
00:10:26.260 You can't say anything on this set anymore. That also appears in Jenny Slate's deposition.
00:10:33.620 Jenny Slate also repeats this. And she said that something that Brandon Sklenart told her.
00:10:41.040 Now Blake is asking about it. And she's saying, do you remember that? Brandon says,
00:10:46.300 I do vaguely remember that. But then he says, I don't even remember if he told me.
00:10:52.440 So what does that mean? I do vaguely remember that. And then I don't even remember if he told me.
00:10:57.340 What is it? You do remember if someone tells you that because you have repeated that to someone else
00:11:03.080 or maybe you didn't. Maybe Jenny Slate made it up. Maybe Blake Lively made it up. 0.51
00:11:08.220 Or maybe he didn't say that at all. Who knows? And then Blake says,
00:11:12.440 he was always trying to rope everyone into his messiness. I mean, it's so interesting how she's
00:11:18.140 accusing him of everything that she's doing all the time. And then Brandon says, I'm just baffled by
00:11:23.440 his lack of foresight, especially given his TED talks and podcasts and books. Blake says, I mean,
00:11:29.480 they all make perfect sense. He's running from something gnarly and hiding in all that.
00:11:33.760 And Brandon says, it does make perfect sense. Some Tom Ridley shit. And that's the end of that 0.99
00:11:40.120 conversation. Then we've now learned that Blake Lively was the one who obviously told all the
00:11:46.420 cast members to unfollow Justin on Instagram. And Colleen Hoover is admitting that in her deposition
00:11:53.520 that Blake Lively asked her to do that. And there's been a lot of conflicting stories here
00:11:58.620 of what happened on the premiere and also what happened at Book Bonanza. As I spoke about a few
00:12:05.200 days ago, Isabella Ferrer told the story that Colleen Hoover was the one that had uninvited Justin.
00:12:14.300 And Colleen Hoover denies that. She said she never uninvited Justin. So the same thing goes for the
00:12:21.000 premiere. Everyone is just blaming everyone else and no one owns up to things. But here is a text
00:12:26.720 message from Danny Greenberg, who is or used to be Justin Baldoni's agent over at WME. So this is a
00:12:33.940 group message, actually. It's from Danny to Warren and also Patrick Whitesell over at WME. And Danny
00:12:43.680 is desperate. He's saying that Patrick, Warren too, spoke with Josh Greenstein. Need your help with
00:12:49.900 Blake, as we discussed regarding the premiere. Up until a couple of weeks ago, we were seemingly good
00:12:55.500 on the premiere. Now that Justin took a shot at the coffee table book and his documentary, there were
00:13:00.420 some projects there that he ended up not doing. Blake has flipped and is pushing Sony that Justin
00:13:06.360 should not go to the premiere. She has the author now taking that position and threatening not to go
00:13:14.840 if he goes. Blake is also ring leading this with the other actors too. She's been brilliantly
00:13:21.580 choreographing this for a while. It's brutal and it's also bad for the movie. Her and all involved,
00:13:29.320 Josh Greenstein may reach out to you. We need your help powering her down. And then he's saying,
00:13:35.500 I have more. Can't discuss tomorrow. So Blake also pushed Colleen Hoover to say that she wouldn't
00:13:42.480 attend the premiere if Justin came to the premiere. In Colleen Hoover's deposition, she's asked a lot
00:13:48.220 about Justin and why she didn't like him. And she said that Blake told her so many things about him.
00:13:54.480 And she's admitting that she didn't have any of these experiences herself. It is all, it's all been
00:14:00.680 fed to her by Blake. We know that they had some creative issues there, but I don't know if that
00:14:06.880 happened before or after Blake started smearing Justin to her. But it's so interesting to see how
00:14:14.080 these stories keeps changing and how everyone is blaming each other here. And I also wanted to share
00:14:19.920 another text message that Blake sent to a friend. This friend is called Louis. I don't know who this
00:14:25.720 person is. Let me know if you know who this is. So she's saying here to this friend, he's a bag of hot
00:14:32.700 gasp, but he still made me feel bad and very upset. Even though I know he's a clown, it still hurts. 0.99
00:14:39.340 So thank you for circling your wagons around me. I'll send you his Instagram. He is so cringe. He got 0.98
00:14:46.680 the rights to this massive book. He cast himself to star and direct. I chose to bet on him. And I also
00:14:52.960 own a huge piece of the movie. So I'm having to bet on myself. But yikes, that gave me a crisis of
00:15:00.280 confidence. I had a three hour meeting with him today. He got it loud and clear, but still being
00:15:05.840 a woman in this industry. And then she's sending a friend Justin's Instagram. And she's saying for
00:15:11.700 your cringe pleasure. And Louis, this person is saying, Oh my God, I'm not, I cannot watch him.
00:15:20.400 He is a liar and fake and he's full of shit. So full of shit. Okay, I'm done. You will be the reason 1.00
00:15:26.720 this film gets made and works, not him. It's a movie, not a soundbite. And he will quickly realize
00:15:32.760 he will need you tremendously to take him through this. Just wait. He will have this meltdown because
00:15:38.420 he's going to realize he isn't all that. And he will have to rely on you. And when that happens,
00:15:45.160 please, dear God, gloat, gloat, gloat. What does this person know about? She doesn't even know who he
00:15:50.740 is at this point. This is so funny when friends are being supportive and she's just trashing a person
00:15:55.400 she knows nothing about. She just looked at his Instagram. And then Blake says,
00:15:59.560 he had a bit of a meltdown when I told him. So this is in April of 2023. So this is after that
00:16:07.280 meeting. And then she's sharing this text that she apparently sent to Justin that she also told
00:16:12.800 Matt Damon about. And she's saying that she sent, I told him this today. I need nothing from you on this
00:16:18.920 film as an actor or director. I'm good. I've got me. I only need one thing from you not to make me feel
00:16:23.820 like shit. I don't even need you to make me feel confident. I've got that. I only need the bare 0.99
00:16:28.400 minimum from you just to make, just don't make me feel like shit. That's your only job. I've got the 1.00
00:16:34.200 rest. Then she says he audibly sobbed. It was the performance of a lifetime dot, dot, dot, original
00:16:42.780 movie. So she told him that he made her feel like shit and he started crying. And then she's making fun 0.99
00:16:50.020 of that and saying that it was a performance. Anyways, Louise, then her friend says, I wish I'd
00:16:56.160 been in the room. Yes, yes, yes. He has no idea what is getting ready to hit him. And I bet the wife
00:17:02.780 is dealing with a totally different person than he professes to be on Instagram. Me think you have a
00:17:08.920 bit of a narcissist on your hands, but I think you've got it covered. Again, please, please, please
00:17:14.400 gloat when it happens. Blake says, do you know how happy that would make me feel if you were in the room?
00:17:20.020 The man is terrified of women. She's saying that Justin is terrified of women here. That's so
00:17:25.180 interesting because she's claiming that he has aged her and was horrible to all the women on set. But
00:17:31.700 now she's saying that he's terrified of women. Interesting. His wife, my God, she continues, I keep 1.00
00:17:37.040 imagining that I'm going to have to ask her to blink twice if she needs to be extracted. I will gloat.
00:17:42.880 Thank you for reminding me that we have permission to do so. I'll share any good ones with you. And yes,
00:17:49.440 you called it narcissist beyond. I'm not a unicorn, as has often been said, dear God.
00:17:56.980 I wonder if she's gloating right now. And we have to talk about this text message between
00:18:02.720 Taryn Fisher, who's also an author and really good friend of Colleen Hoover and Colleen Hoover
00:18:08.600 and Blake Lively. This explains a lot. So Terry here is saying, I wish one of my best friends would
00:18:16.060 send me Justin's proposal video. So they're obviously slandering him here and making fun of his
00:18:23.000 engagement or proposal videos, something that he posted on YouTube that these women obviously think 1.00
00:18:29.040 were cheesy or cringe or whatever. And Colleen Hoover says, I wish you'd learn how to Google.
00:18:34.420 And then she's Googling it and sending it to her friends. And then Colleen says,
00:18:40.680 this video is going to be mine and Blake's inspiration for It Starts With Us.
00:18:47.800 So they're already talking about this. This is on June 19th of 2024. So they're talking about
00:18:56.940 the sequel, Blake and Colleen. As you know, Justin Baldoni owns the sequel. So it's not Blake and
00:19:05.880 Colleen's to take, but they're already discussing that here. So I'm sure that they had other
00:19:12.600 conversations about how Blake would be a part of the sequel and how she probably would direct that
00:19:18.580 one. That's actually something Justin said in interviews as well, because I think like he had it.
00:19:23.800 But if I were him, I would never sell the rights to the sequel. Then Colleen laughs at her own
00:19:29.640 message. That's interesting. Would you laugh about your own comments? And Taryn says, he's a sociopath
00:19:37.420 talking about Justin. And Blake says, actually, and a narcissist. It's funny how Blake keeps describing 0.99
00:19:44.740 herself through describing how Justin Baldoni is. She is definitely a narcissist and a sociopath. 0.99
00:19:51.740 And especially considering all these backlash that Blake Lively got, she sued someone else for 0.99
00:19:57.420 that. For what she said and for her own actions, she sued someone else because she can't deal with 1.00
00:20:02.440 the fact that people don't like her and that she's not popular. And she's calling someone else a
00:20:06.960 narcissist. I find it amazing. Okay. And I want to share one more email with you guys, because I find
00:20:11.960 all this so fascinating. So this is Blake Lively sending an email to Sarah Rule. So Blake is supposed to,
00:20:19.600 or was supposed to direct, this was supposed to be her directorial debut. It's for a movie called
00:20:25.620 Seconds. And she's sending this email to Sarah Rule. I don't know exactly what her role is here.
00:20:34.120 But anyways, listen to this.
00:20:37.380 I'm so sorry. I've been under it since April, really, Blake says.
00:20:41.580 I was filming one movie when the studio took the film from the director of the movie I was in,
00:20:47.020 in post on, and asked me to take over. So I've been re-editing the entire film.
00:20:55.720 I mean, yes, she's saying that Sony took Justin off the movie and asked her to take over. It's crazy.
00:21:05.500 And she says,
00:21:35.480 So yes, Blake Lively obviously lied to this person and said that Sony took the movie from
00:21:47.840 Justin Baldoni and asked her to take over. Anyways, I wanted to end this episode on a text
00:21:54.880 message that Jamie Heath sent to someone. Jamie Heath is Justin Baldoni's partner. And he was
00:22:00.900 explaining to someone here how he feels about Blake Lively. This is on April 27th of 2024.
00:22:08.840 So he's saying here, I'm just going to say this and then go to bed. You were not able to control
00:22:14.520 Blake. I was not able to control Blake. Alex has not been able to control Blake. Ange has not
00:22:20.900 controlled Blake. Todd is not able to control Blake. Her lawyer doesn't control Blake. Her manager
00:22:26.580 doesn't control her. Agent doesn't control Blake. Nobody can control what you cannot control. We stop
00:22:33.260 pointing fingers at everyone else who cannot control the very person that we and no one else
00:22:38.740 can control. We are all in bed with the effing monster and we are all trying to deal with the
00:22:44.560 monster. This is not because they don't have balls. If that was the case, you didn't have balls. If that's the 1.00
00:22:50.520 case, I didn't have balls. It's not as simple as having balls. We are dealing with a monster and 0.97
00:22:56.320 everyone is trying to navigate it. Yeah, I think that really sums it up. Anyways, thank you so much
00:23:03.000 for watching, you guys. I really appreciate all your support, as you know. And if you haven't
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00:23:11.920 Talk and I'll see you soon. Bye.
00:23:14.300 Yeah, we've lost some talk.