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00:00:15.180 And we can also see when Taylor started getting upset with Blake.

00:00:20.940 Yeah, we floss some talk.

00:00:25.640 Hi, and welcome to Flossom Talk.

00:00:27.060 I'm Tashley Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:29.600 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.

00:00:33.400 I mean, I don't know where to start.

00:00:36.560 I don't know where to continue.

00:00:38.100 I'm just like so floored by all of this coming out.

00:00:41.540 And now we've also seen the text messages from Taylor Swift.

00:00:46.820 Yesterday I spoke about them,

00:00:48.620 but they were in this other document where they were just referred to.

00:00:52.340 And now we have the whole thing, which I'm going to get into here.

00:00:56.340 And we can also see when Taylor started getting upset with Blake.

00:01:02.140 I was asking that question yesterday, wondering why are they not friends anymore?

00:01:07.300 If Taylor was a part of this whole scheme and she knew everything.

00:01:12.120 She knew when that New York Times article was coming out.

00:01:14.760 So she knew that Blake was suing Justin.

00:01:17.560 She also played a big part in convincing Justin that Blake's writing,

00:01:23.040 it was Ryan's writing, of that rooftop scene was amazing.

00:01:28.260 And they schemed around that and got her to come to her penthouse when Justin was there.

00:01:34.220 Something that Taylor had denied earlier, saying that she had nothing to do with any of this.

00:01:39.380 She just gave a song to the movie and she just happened to be at the penthouse at the time that Justin was there.

00:01:45.220 It was all planned.

00:01:46.320 We also have to talk about the group chat that Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds had with Matt Damon

00:01:50.660 and his wife and the letter that Blake sent to Ben Affleck and all their A-list friends.

00:01:57.680 And Bradley Cooper, who watched her movie twice and she was so grateful for him,

00:02:03.700 they tried to make an army of their A-list friends to intimidate Justin.

00:02:09.560 Also worth mentioning that Blake has added two new attorneys.

00:02:13.800 She added another attorney last week, which now is her PR person, her crisis PR person.

00:02:21.180 Her name is Sigrid and she's been all over all these news stories as expected,

00:02:26.600 commenting on things.

00:02:28.380 As I mentioned many times before, she used to defend victims of Jeffrey Epstein

00:02:34.320 and she fits perfectly into Blake's narrative here.

00:02:37.880 So the media is going crazy right now.

00:02:40.900 And Leslie Sloan has People Magazine on speed dial, 0.86

00:02:44.500 feeding them stories that fits into Blake's narrative,

00:02:48.000 because right now it looks terrible for her and they need all the help they can get.

00:02:53.820 This is a PR war at its worst right now.

00:02:58.600 Okay, so let's get into the juices part here first.

00:03:01.600 So this we didn't learn about yesterday.

00:03:04.340 This is a message that Blake sends to Taylor and this is on December 4th.

00:03:12.500 So this is before she sued Justin and before the New York Times article hits.

00:03:18.380 And this is when Taylor is starting to shift.

00:03:21.700 So Blake is saying to Taylor,

00:03:24.480 Hi, just checking in.

00:03:26.200 I have no reason to ask, but I don't know.

00:03:28.800 I've been feeling like I should.

00:03:30.740 Is everything okay?

00:03:32.600 I felt like a bad friend lately because I was such a sad sack

00:03:36.340 who only talked about my own shit for months. 0.59

00:03:39.580 You were generous to not only be the key person here for me doing all of it,

00:03:44.120 but also to let me off the hook for being so in it.

00:03:47.700 So for being so in it, but I still have a feeling something may not be right.

00:03:53.260 I told Ryan, he said to just ask you, but I felt so stupid and like it sounded needy

00:03:59.420 and awkward for everyone, especially because I can't explain why I have this feeling.

00:04:06.300 And you know, I have toxic masculinity, so I can't be needy.

00:04:10.700 Taking a dig at Justin, obviously, but also I do want to know everything is good.

00:04:15.540 So I'm asking, I always want to be to the, I always want the opportunity to be a better friend.

00:04:21.220 If there's something I understood, I unintentionally did.

00:04:26.280 I know how busy and taxed you are physically, emotionally, practically.

00:04:32.020 So I don't expect any more from you ever.

00:04:34.240 Just want to make sure all is good.

00:04:38.000 So then about one and a half hours later, Taylor responds and she says,

00:04:44.100 no, you are not wrong, but it's also not a big deal.

00:04:49.140 I think I'm just exhausted in every avenue of my life.

00:04:52.940 And in recent months had been feeling a little bit of a shift in the way you talk to me.

00:04:59.260 Yes, there has been a lot of the Justin stuff, but I've been through things like this before

00:05:06.920 and I now, and I know how all consuming it is.

00:05:11.040 It's more like dot, dot, dot.

00:05:13.480 And I feel really bad saying anything about this because your texts have been so nice in their intent.

00:05:19.300 But your last few, it just felt like I was reading a mass corporate email sent to 200 employees.

00:05:27.540 You said the words we like 18 times and it felt, and it feels awful to be in any way critical

00:05:36.040 of any way you process what you've been through, what you've been going through.

00:05:40.500 But I just kind of miss my funny, dark, normal speaking friend who talks to me as herself,

00:05:47.580 not like a plural unit.

00:05:50.080 When it's a group I'm hearing from, I feel distance from you even more than we are geographically.

00:05:56.300 Then it's something redacted here.

00:05:59.340 And I know you feel attacked from all sides for ridiculous reasons, so you're feeling like

00:06:03.960 you have to overly explain things to be overly nice or whatever, but it's me.

00:06:09.280 That's just caused a little distance.

00:06:12.400 And you don't need to apologize.

00:06:14.220 Just come back, please, Taylor says.

00:06:17.220 Then Blake makes fun of the situation saying,

00:06:19.540 Dear valid customer, thank you for your feedback.

00:06:21.680 We at headquarters, blah, blah, blah.

00:06:23.000 Then she says, for real though, I literally deleted the awful thing I was gonna, and that

00:06:28.840 bit with because I've become digitally paranoid.

00:06:32.040 I don't know if you experience that with phone calls after what happened to you, but after

00:06:36.440 the thousands of text messages that weren't meant for me that I've been reading, I've

00:06:41.120 internalized that everything digital may be public.

00:06:44.620 So she's at this point read all those text messages on Jennifer Abel's phone that she got

00:06:49.460 through that sham subpoena that she coordinated.

00:06:53.300 I say that knowing it's irrational, but my brain can't accept rational here.

00:06:58.740 So yeah, I've been texting like I'm writing, not like me talking.

00:07:02.140 I didn't realize that until you pointed it out, but I see it.

00:07:06.080 On top of that, I'm overpackaging simple things because I felt so deeply misunderstood

00:07:10.800 that I don't trust my judgment of myself anymore.

00:07:14.180 That sounds over the top, but it's true.

00:07:16.460 This effing guy and what he did to me gave me an identity crisis legitimately.

00:07:22.660 An identity crisis?

00:07:24.000 Is that what she took over the entire movie? 1.00

00:07:26.240 The thing that spooked me most in all of this though wasn't the bad guys being bad guys.

00:07:31.440 It was the good guys, my lifelong friends, allies to women who quietly dipped.

00:07:38.520 And so I'm probably being over the top with my friends who stayed because I've never felt

00:07:43.560 more alone.

00:07:44.580 So at this point, Blake didn't have support from any of her friends anymore.

00:07:49.800 And this was before that article hit.

00:07:52.900 And she says, the track is very violin heavy.

00:07:56.760 I hate it.

00:07:58.160 And then she says, point is, I'm being a stupid paranoid weirdo and felt it, but didn't know

00:08:03.400 where or how or when.

00:08:04.700 So thank you for telling me and saying I don't need to apologize and for not making it a big

00:08:09.760 deal.

00:08:10.100 But I'm sorry to you and I'm sorry to me and to our kids.

00:08:14.120 F that guy and F this whole gaggle of super villains.

00:08:18.200 You've got enough on you.

00:08:19.640 You don't need to write back to all this.

00:08:21.480 Just letting you know I see it now.

00:08:23.200 And thank you.

00:08:23.940 I'm excited for you to be done with suitcases, constant sinus infections and thumb up kneecaps. 0.98

00:08:30.820 And then Taylor reacted to the first paragraph, took me out, like Blake's joking.

00:08:36.760 I mean, she jokes at all the most inappropriate places all the time. 0.85

00:08:40.240 It's just like, OK, whatever.

00:08:41.760 Then she says, Blake says, I sent you a voice memo, but it doesn't show on your thread, which

00:08:46.720 is really helping my case of not trusting phones.

00:08:49.520 Did it go through?

00:08:51.100 Taylor says, yes.

00:08:52.100 I'm just falling asleep, but listening tomorrow.

00:08:54.860 Love you.

00:08:55.920 So she is just like desperate for Taylor to be on her side here and to give her more and

00:09:02.180 more and more.

00:09:03.280 And Taylor is just taking a step back.

00:09:05.440 She's being kind of diplomatic here, saying like, enough is enough.

00:09:08.940 I don't want to be a part of this anymore.

00:09:10.520 I also have a life here.

00:09:12.080 I don't want to be just your friend supporting you through your crisis.

00:09:16.400 I also need a friend sometimes.

00:09:18.840 And keep in mind that Blake sent this message at 2.30 a.m. to Taylor Swift.

00:09:25.820 And then the next day, Taylor says, I think this bitch knows something's coming because 1.00

00:09:30.800 he's gotten out his tiny violin.

00:09:33.340 And there is a picture of and there's a story attached of Justin in People magazine when he

00:09:39.400 talks about his ex-girlfriend and that he was harassed by her.

00:09:44.000 And Blake says he's being honored at the Vital Voices for Women event on Monday.

00:09:48.840 And Taylor says, this is so disgusting and I hate that he's clever about this shit.

00:09:53.560 And Blake says, this inspiring event celebrates men who are using their platforms, influence

00:09:58.780 and leadership to elevate women, combat gender-based violence and promote gender equality worldwide.

00:10:05.060 And Blake says he also has a team.

00:10:07.220 It's not just him and his publicist, Jennifer Abel and the comms people at his studio.

00:10:12.420 Taylor says, he needs to be beaten by his own words.

00:10:17.180 And Blake says, everyone weighs in before he responds to a text, writes an email or trims

00:10:22.360 his hair.

00:10:23.200 It's wild.

00:10:24.080 Everyone participates.

00:10:25.860 And Blake says, yeah, I actually think it's important he's honored.

00:10:29.500 And to all the people honoring him and not taking a moment to question, no one talks to him.

00:10:34.740 No one will say his name.

00:10:35.900 No one follows him.

00:10:36.960 Yet they all are close with each other.

00:10:40.160 Maybe it was him.

00:10:41.320 Nah, it was the women because there were flowers. 1.00

00:10:44.800 That's how you know.

00:10:47.360 Taylor says, Jesus Christ, is everyone still on track?

00:10:50.620 And Blake says, yes, a week later, but worth the wait.

00:10:54.340 So they're now talking about the New York Times article.

00:10:57.760 And Taylor is very involved in that.

00:10:59.960 It's funny to me how Taylor was just saying the night before that she kind of had enough

00:11:04.920 of this.

00:11:05.720 And then Blake keeps talking about it.

00:11:07.900 So this is what I think just pushed Taylor to the brink of just being like, I don't

00:11:13.900 want a part of this.

00:11:15.160 I want to have a break from you and this case.

00:11:18.480 And I don't want to be more involved than I am already.

00:11:21.520 But what happened after this?

00:11:23.540 How did it get to the point where Blake Lively blackmailed Taylor Swift and said, if you don't

00:11:29.580 support me publicly at this point, I will leak our text messages.

00:11:32.860 I wonder when that happened.

00:11:34.840 We don't have the answer to that yet.

00:11:36.620 But anyways, let's continue.

00:11:38.360 Blake says to Taylor, can you imagine feeling as confident as these predators that you're

00:11:42.660 going to always get away with it?

00:11:44.380 Him accepting an award as an ally for women and Scooter going about the world with his head

00:11:50.180 held high as he co-owns and funds a crisis PR company that silences women.

00:11:56.300 As you know, this award was actually taken back as well.

00:11:59.580 He had to give it back after that article came out.

00:12:01.940 That's how bad it was.

00:12:03.800 Taylor says, it's like a horror film.

00:12:05.640 No one knows it's taking place.

00:12:08.020 Oh, but they will.

00:12:09.320 It's the only thing that can come of this.

00:12:11.900 The good that protects other women from this happening to them.

00:12:16.260 Meanwhile, I walk around feeling death sentence guilty and apologetic for being sarcastic and

00:12:21.820 liking a theme party.

00:12:23.880 Then there's another text that changed between Blake and Taylor from April of 2024.

00:12:29.560 And she's sending her the trailer with her song and she really loves it.

00:12:34.640 Blake says to Taylor, I'm not OK.

00:12:37.240 I can't breathe.

00:12:38.040 I'm obsessed with you.

00:12:39.540 I've never felt more like Kaleishi. 0.97

00:12:41.740 I have dragons.

00:12:43.260 So she's saying this to Taylor at this point already in April of 2024.

00:12:47.800 She called Taylor her dragon.

00:12:50.620 And obviously, Taylor, as we've learned later, didn't like this, but she didn't say anything.

00:12:54.760 And she says here, except my dragons are bred with Kersay herself.

00:12:59.340 And then Taylor says something I spoke about yesterday.

00:13:01.800 If Justin was strategic, he would not like, he would be like no Taylor Swift in the trailer

00:13:07.020 because that will give you more power.

00:13:09.120 I spoke about those texts exchanged yesterday.

00:13:11.520 And Taylor says his misogyny runs so deep.

00:13:13.940 He thinks women are incapable of winning chess matches or making long game power plays. 1.00

00:13:19.140 And Blake says, you're so right and so wickedly smart to call it.

00:13:24.080 He could have run from your music.

00:13:25.720 I never thought about that.

00:13:26.900 But holy shit, how stupid.

00:13:29.260 This was his only shot at having the appearance of an upper hand.

00:13:32.540 Then there is a text exchange, a group chat between Taylor Blake and I believe Ryan Reynolds

00:13:39.020 because there was a story in Daily Mail saying that there was a paparazzi picture of Blake

00:13:45.200 when she had her phone up and her codename for Ryan is Roy Orbison.

00:13:50.460 And he's a part of this text exchange.

00:13:53.600 This is sent by Taylor on the day that the New York Times article hit.

00:13:57.600 She is saying to Ryan, which I assume, and Blake, you won.

00:14:04.940 You did it.

00:14:06.920 Roy slash Ryan says it's turning.

00:14:10.440 Then Taylor shares the deadline article, Justin Baldoni dropped by WME, Blake Lively, SH complaints,

00:14:19.100 blah, blah, blah.

00:14:19.840 And Taylor says, and you effing helped so many people who won't have to go through this ever

00:14:25.000 again.

00:14:25.860 So at this point, Taylor believes that Blake is helping other women.

00:14:30.320 And I think that probably changed, especially after she blackmailed her.

00:14:35.660 But let's see.

00:14:36.420 And then Ryan loved Taylor's message.

00:14:39.340 And he says, remember August.

00:14:41.360 And Taylor says, never has a constellation been reversed so fast.

00:14:46.920 And Taylor says, again, you guys don't understand how rare this is to have proof and take the

00:14:52.400 perfect steps to bring that truth into light.

00:14:56.000 And Blake says, oh, like my God, I love you so much.

00:14:59.200 I would not be OK through any of this if it weren't for you.

00:15:02.820 And Taylor says, can't you, can you believe she just called and was like, this PR chick 0.69

00:15:08.600 wants to get info to Blake?

00:15:10.440 That means the world.

00:15:12.060 And Blake says, it changed my life.

00:15:14.440 So they're talking about this person who contacted Blake to say that Stephanie Jones has

00:15:19.420 Jennifer Abel's phone.

00:15:20.540 And on that phone, there are text messages of this alleged smear campaign that I can get

00:15:26.300 to you if you subpoena her phone.

00:15:28.340 And then you can give it to New York Times and you can sue him and blah, blah, blah.

00:15:32.700 Anyways, interesting.

00:15:33.640 I have received a few messages from people saying that we look at that song from Taylor

00:15:38.380 now.

00:15:39.040 It looks like that song was written to Justin.

00:15:42.280 And it's interesting when you look at the lyric from Canceled and she's saying, did you

00:15:47.500 make a joke only a man could? 0.82

00:15:49.460 Were you just too smug for your own good or bring a tiny violin to a knife fight?

00:15:54.620 Baby, that all ends tonight.

00:15:56.360 Remember, she texted Blake saying the bitch knows something is coming. 1.00

00:16:00.600 He's bringing out his tiny violin.

00:16:03.020 I don't know if it's related, but it kind of seems like that now.

00:16:07.880 Yeah.

00:16:08.100 And then there's also the text exchange from back from April of 2023 when Blake talks about

00:16:13.980 Justin as her doofus director of my movie.

00:16:17.680 And basically they're planning for her to come up to the penthouse for Taylor to come up to

00:16:22.180 the penthouse to convince Justin that Blake's version of the rooftop scene is much better.

00:16:27.240 And this is the entire message that Blake sent Tyler.

00:16:29.880 She said, if you get here with this doofus director of my movie is still here.

00:16:34.560 I'll be ushering him out, but hope he's still here.

00:16:38.240 Can you do me a huge favor?

00:16:39.840 I need help with him.

00:16:41.160 Can you tell him you're excited for the movie, that you read the book, but what you're freaking

00:16:48.640 out over is the pages I sent you.

00:16:51.880 What a magnetic scene that is or whatever descriptives you're comfortable with.

00:16:57.720 I'll send you the scene.

00:16:59.360 You don't have to read it, of course.

00:17:00.900 It's a quick read.

00:17:01.860 He's a clown and thinks he's a writer now and got this rewrite and told me he appreciates

00:17:08.860 my passion.

00:17:10.340 That's it.

00:17:11.500 So having the greatest living storyteller unknowingly echo to him how much you love what we're doing,

00:17:18.240 giving him a credit as if he wrote them with me will go such a long way.

00:17:23.900 And then she says, you dug a movie out of a grave once already for me.

00:17:28.000 I don't know what she's talking about there.

00:17:29.440 But anyways, and then Taylor says, I'll do anything for you.

00:17:33.640 And then Blake says, I love you.

00:17:35.000 Thank you.

00:17:35.520 Text me when you're on your way.

00:17:36.900 I'll have Molly meet you and security in garage. 0.93

00:17:40.520 Taylor says, heading your way.

00:17:42.080 I'm on the streets.

00:17:43.800 Blake says, I'll see you soon.

00:17:45.500 Sophie headed down now.

00:17:47.120 As you know, a spokesperson for Taylor said that she just happened to show up there, which

00:17:53.100 we now know is not true.

00:17:54.480 Then there's a long rant here again from Blake to Taylor.

00:17:58.800 Taylor, where she's saying you were so heroic today, talking about her appearance at the

00:18:04.000 rooftop at their penthouse, saying, I recapped every moment to Ryan.

00:18:08.300 I kept remembering stuff.

00:18:09.540 You making shit up about me and lenses, kind of pretending that Blake knows a lot about

00:18:15.240 moviemaking, I guess.

00:18:16.500 And referring to yourself as my doll.

00:18:18.280 This clown falling for it all, but also resisting it.

00:18:22.360 You are the world's absolute greatest friend ever.

00:18:25.160 I won the lottery.

00:18:26.140 And then Taylor says, I won the lottery.

00:18:29.180 You are the coolest person in the world.

00:18:31.280 And you like me.

00:18:32.960 Then Blake attaches a picture to mock Justin.

00:18:35.740 And then she says, the most bonkers part to me is him saying to you, he doesn't know

00:18:39.400 pop culture, made me more mad than anything he's done to me.

00:18:43.220 Oh, really?

00:18:43.880 OK, that's how mad you are.

00:18:45.500 That's interesting.

00:18:46.640 His entire brand is dissembling toxic masculinity.

00:18:50.080 He monetizes it.

00:18:51.820 He does TED Talks, but says that to you, not only is it so rude, but it's untrue.

00:18:59.500 The thing that enraged me is you are in an absolute league of your own in being both the

00:19:04.840 most popular artist alive and one of all time, but also the most respected and awarded.

00:19:12.400 Who says that to your friend?

00:19:13.740 I mean, she's so in awe of Taylor Swift.

00:19:17.460 It's so obvious that their relationship is not really balanced here, that she is just

00:19:22.520 sucking up to her. 0.80

00:19:23.540 She wants to be Taylor Swift. 0.99

00:19:25.720 And that's also the reason why she's doing all of this, I think, because she feels that

00:19:31.260 she cannot be on the same level as her friends.

00:19:35.100 Then she goes on and on talking about Justin and how much she dislikes him.

00:19:39.020 And this is another reason why I think Taylor was just like, OK, enough, stop, stop talking

00:19:44.240 about it.

00:19:44.980 And then she continues to say, I honestly want to retroactively take you out to dinner to

00:19:50.040 celebrate that, celebrate that.

00:19:51.560 You deserve to be studied.

00:19:54.180 You are a human masterclass.

00:19:56.460 F yes, they see it.

00:19:58.760 I've been digging up hatches.

00:20:00.360 I'll stop now.

00:20:01.560 I love you and you and I love you and Ryan and my babies and get more protective about your

00:20:08.120 hearts than mine sometimes.

00:20:10.400 Yeah, it really seems like that because you're only talking about yourself the entire time

00:20:15.220 here.

00:20:15.820 It's so much less forgiving when it comes to someone messing with someone I love than when

00:20:20.360 someone messes with me.

00:20:22.140 I'm done.

00:20:22.800 I just love you and I'm so ecstatic for you and grateful for you today.

00:20:27.800 That was stupid fun.

00:20:29.920 She called it stupid fun.

00:20:32.020 And, you know, they've been referring to him as a clown and all that stuff.

00:20:35.440 OK, so let's leave Taylor for now.

00:20:37.200 I hope that we're going to find out what really happened, what went wrong, when things

00:20:42.380 started to really escalate between the two of them and if they're still not talking.

00:20:48.220 I'm like I'm so confused right now with their friendship, by the way.

00:20:51.700 Anyways, I wanted to also mention these letters that Blake and Ryan or these emails or text

00:20:57.380 messages Blake sent to Ben Affleck and also the group chat that her and Ryan had with Matt

00:21:04.740 Damon and his wife.

00:21:06.040 So let's get into this situation with Matt Damon.

00:21:09.660 So it's so obvious that the two of them are trying to create an army of A-listers so they

00:21:16.480 can kind of intimidate Justin even more at this point.

00:21:20.340 And this is sent to Matt Damon and Lucy, his wife, on the 17th of May of 2024.

00:21:27.420 So after the shoot is over and Blake already edited her version of the movie.

00:21:33.740 So Ryan is sending this to Matt Damon saying, hi, if the offer is still open to watch the

00:21:39.120 movie, pics will work great.

00:21:40.680 Easy's way is to log into Blake's account whenever you're ready.

00:21:44.040 So they want Matt Damon to watch the movie and give them feedback on it.

00:21:47.560 If you text her, she can give you the log in and code and you're in.

00:21:50.880 And again, it's such a zero pressure ask.

00:21:53.980 We know how important family time is when we're up in the blah, blah, blah.

00:21:57.860 So no worries either way.

00:21:59.440 We'd love to get your well-earned point of view.

00:22:03.360 And if your girls want to see it on the big screen at Blake's family and friends screening

00:22:08.040 Saturday at 6 p.m., they're obviously most welcome.

00:22:12.100 This movie has been one of all time zingers on and off set.

00:22:15.600 One day we'll make a movie about the movie and we can't wait to tell you all about it.

00:22:20.280 The stories are already finding their place in the pathion of legendary Hollywood insanity.

00:22:26.700 We're about to be off for at least a year and a half, maybe two years, maybe forever.

00:22:31.640 Let's play pickleball.

00:22:33.300 Okay.

00:22:34.120 Then, before they got the chance to answer this, Blake chimes in saying,

00:22:38.480 Blake here, adding more zeros to the pressure.

00:22:41.400 Thank you for even considering.

00:22:43.720 And it's not a bad movie.

00:22:45.720 So who knows?

00:22:46.860 You just may enjoy some of it.

00:22:48.680 Be warned, it covers DV and key plays in key places, so just want to be sure you know.

00:22:55.080 This movie nearly killed me.

00:22:57.020 The director, co-star, producer, financier, head of the studio.

00:23:00.540 Yes, all one person had zero experience, but the good news is he also has no taste and an enormous ego.

00:23:09.560 But only because he's in a cult and believes he's our century prophet.

00:23:15.260 I wish even one of these things was hyperbole.

00:23:19.060 So, she is trashing Justin Baldoni to Matt Damon and his wife here, saying,

00:23:25.160 Anyway, juicy stuff.

00:23:26.600 I told him one day, after so much shit had already gone down,

00:23:29.920 I don't need anything from you.

00:23:31.600 I don't need you to guide me or to make me feel good.

00:23:34.560 All I need from you is, I just need you to make me feel like shit.

00:23:39.520 That's it.

00:23:40.360 I've got the rest.

00:23:41.760 What I didn't anticipate was having to do everything in this movie.

00:23:45.560 I rewrote the entire script.

00:23:47.900 I directed every actor.

00:23:50.220 The DP was coming to me when he couldn't get anything from him.

00:23:53.820 So, way too often.

00:23:55.760 Then, after all this, Justin wouldn't bring me into the edit.

00:23:59.900 He had no idea what he had because he didn't author any of it.

00:24:05.560 They gave me 10 days to scrap together an edit to compete with an edit he's been making since July.

00:24:14.140 I've been asleep about an hour and a half each night because this obviously is not enough time.

00:24:19.160 So, I've just been grunting it.

00:24:20.820 We're in a bake-off now, which will happen in 12 days.

00:24:24.060 This week in screening is my chance to get the first and only feedback on my cut before the bake-off.

00:24:30.900 Anyway, it's all drama.

00:24:32.360 That was headline of the gossip.

00:24:33.820 Not even good stuff.

00:24:34.720 Way too much info.

00:24:36.120 And like Ryan said, zero pressure.

00:24:39.000 Expect the pickleball.

00:24:40.880 Accept the pickleball part.

00:24:42.800 There's significant pressure there.

00:24:45.000 And then there's something that's redacted here.

00:24:47.660 And then Lucy Damon, Matt Damon's wife, responds saying,

00:24:51.180 I'm sorry you had such an awful experience doing a job you love.

00:24:54.720 We were around all weekend for pickleball.

00:24:57.320 That's all she's saying.

00:24:59.080 She's like, I don't want your problems just like loaded off like that.

00:25:04.360 Who does that?

00:25:05.180 I hate when people do that.

00:25:06.720 When they're like, hey, how are you?

00:25:08.260 I hope everything is well with you.

00:25:09.420 And here is a list of all my problems that I want to throw on you.

00:25:14.960 Oh my God, the worst.

00:25:17.080 Anyways, then Matt is chiming in saying, we'll give you any help we can.

00:25:22.140 And if this experience hasn't totally destroyed your soul, Blake,

00:25:26.320 you should come direct your next movie at Artists' Equity.

00:25:30.440 We're kind of like a cult, but a really nice one.

00:25:33.720 And Blake says, where do I sign?

00:25:36.040 And Matt Damon says, I'm looking forward to seeing his work.

00:25:39.700 And then Blake says, I can get it on your picks,

00:25:42.820 but politically it's cleanest if you just log into mine.

00:25:47.140 If you have any sense of when you watch it, whenever you know,

00:25:50.780 I'll just have to call you with login and two-factor code.

00:25:54.880 And Lucy Damon says, of course, we're happy to watch and hopefully be helpful.

00:25:59.400 Let's talk tomorrow.

00:26:01.040 As someone pointed out to me that they noticed when watching The Rip,

00:26:04.680 Matt Damon and Ben Affleck's movie that's on Netflix right now,

00:26:08.440 Lucy Damon, Matt Damon's wife, has a PGA credit there.

00:26:13.080 She was the producer of that movie.

00:26:15.020 Then Blake says,

00:26:15.840 Really, why would Sony look for any reason not to use Justin's cut

00:26:31.440 when they knew it was performing better in front of an audience?

00:26:35.620 Hmm, doesn't make any sense.

00:26:37.440 And then Blake is like, heart, heart, heart.

00:26:39.720 And thank you, thank you, all emojis.

00:26:42.020 Thank you so much.

00:26:43.040 And Lucy Damon is saying, it's insane the power this guy has had

00:26:46.800 with no experience to back him.

00:26:49.400 And Blake says, it's all his cult dollars and backing, wild stuff.

00:26:56.020 And Lucy Damon says, like Matt said, artist equity from now on,

00:27:00.020 no need for weird cult money.

00:27:02.440 And then Blake says, several weeks before shooting and right after Blake had,

00:27:06.580 and then Ryan adds here, several weeks before shooting

00:27:09.620 and right after Blake had given birth to our son,

00:27:12.020 this guy called our trainer, Don,

00:27:13.840 and asked, how much do you think Blake will weigh in two weeks?

00:27:17.380 Don got very long island all of a sudden.

00:27:20.020 And Justin backtracked.

00:27:21.780 He said, I'm only asking because I have to carry her in a scene 0.84

00:27:25.100 and I have low bone density.

00:27:29.080 He never said he had low bone density.

00:27:31.180 He had a serious back issue.

00:27:33.740 I remember from Ryan mocking Justin as a nice pull.

00:27:39.600 He was also saying that he had low bone density.

00:27:43.180 Anyways, him and Blake keep loading off all this dirt on Justin.

00:27:47.600 And it seems like Matt is not having it.

00:27:49.900 He's not really responding to any of this.

00:27:52.040 But Lucy says here, sorry, but what the actual F?

00:27:56.040 He's dead.

00:27:56.940 And then Blake said it was actually two weeks before.

00:28:00.960 When pressed even further, he said he needed to train to adjust his bone density

00:28:04.760 because to circle back, he has low bone density.

00:28:08.900 He also told me last year that he speaks to my father.

00:28:12.220 He hopes I don't mind.

00:28:14.360 My father died three years ago.

00:28:16.480 And Lucy says, what?

00:28:17.900 And she says, I'm fascinated by this creep.

00:28:21.540 I think you should make a movie about this guy.

00:28:23.380 And Blake says, I literally already have the name of my doc.

00:28:28.100 Lights, cult, action.

00:28:30.420 And Ryan says, right, I've never seen anything like it.

00:28:33.680 A malignantly vain sociopathic faux feminist with almost no sense of boundaries or shame. 0.99

00:28:40.120 I cannot believe he hasn't gone to jail or returned to the sun.

00:28:45.280 That's the end of that conversation.

00:28:47.580 It's interesting here.

00:28:48.520 As I said, Matt Damon is only saying like, hey, you should work for me instead.

00:28:52.640 That's it.

00:28:53.560 He doesn't want to get involved in all this.

00:28:55.520 Why are they doing this to people?

00:28:56.780 Why are they loading all of this crap onto other people around them?

00:29:00.960 They're just desperately looking for support, as I said, from their illest friends.

00:29:05.720 And then this letter that Blake wrote to Ben Affleck, which is even more cringe.

00:29:12.020 It's long, of course, because Blake lively can never shut up.

00:29:16.560 She starts off by saying, Ben, it's Blake.

00:29:19.440 Don't hang up.

00:29:20.420 I hope life is treating you beautifully.

00:29:22.280 Ryan was going on and on about you recently amongst all that dot, dot, dot chaos.

00:29:28.080 He was blown away by you, though he was equally effused about your Dunkin' commercial.

00:29:34.360 So, no, you have a Canadian fan club in my house and Burbank one too.

00:29:38.140 So, they always start off by complimenting people before they start asking for favors and before they start manipulating them into supporting them.

00:29:47.320 She starts off again saying, I'm writing with zero pressure to ask.

00:29:51.280 I've just come out the other side, well, almost, of the most upsetting experience I've ever had on a movie.

00:29:58.160 The making of a doc of this film would be more interesting than the movie could ever be.

00:30:03.820 It's like if Wild Wild Country, Fire Festival, and Going Clear had a baby with the room.

00:30:10.620 Room also works, though.

00:30:12.840 I was just talking about the movie, The Room.

00:30:14.320 Anyways, I ended up rewriting and restructuring the entire script.

00:30:18.860 I also ended up having to direct the movie via the chaotic clown director, producer, financier, studio head at the center.

00:30:28.100 Yeah, that's all the same person.

00:30:30.860 Oh, and did I mention he and everyone he had on the movie is in a cult?

00:30:35.460 If I would have just formally directed it, it would have been so much easier.

00:30:40.880 But having to troubleshoot through his taste, ego, and pre-existing decisions made it so difficult.

00:30:50.260 And that's not even touching on any of the Wild HR issues and beyond.

00:30:56.120 Then she says, if you have one hour and 58 minutes of free time at any time in the next few days,

00:31:01.440 would you be willing to watch the movie and give me any ideas of notes?

00:31:05.900 I will fix it to you.

00:31:07.660 You can literally text me a voice memo so you don't have to do formally right thoughts.

00:31:12.160 If your wife or kids are around, I love their opinions also.

00:31:15.620 For your info, it does cover DV, so no one is caught off guard.

00:31:21.020 I'm such a fan of Jennifer's.

00:31:23.300 I've told her as much every time I've met her, and it would be an honor to have her take.

00:31:29.120 So now she wants Jennifer Lopez in here as well because he,

00:31:32.220 I'm assuming he's talking about Jennifer Lopez and not Jennifer Garner.

00:31:36.640 I don't know.

00:31:37.200 He was with Jennifer Lopez at the time.

00:31:39.580 Again, zero pressure.

00:31:41.620 She keeps saying there's zero pressure by saying there's zero pressure.

00:31:44.980 I just really want this to work after all I put it in, all I put into it.

00:31:51.240 This movie nearly killed me.

00:31:53.160 And I can think of, and I can think of very few people who would be as perspective

00:31:58.880 and insightful as I know you would be.

00:32:02.500 Ryan asked Matt to watch also, so no pressure here.

00:32:06.040 So I think he's watching this weekend.

00:32:08.560 Good men showing up.

00:32:09.900 I'm beyond grateful for that.

00:32:11.460 So manipulative.

00:32:13.400 Also, can you believe Jason Bourne is watching my movie?

00:32:16.760 I'll get you an autograph one day.

00:32:18.880 Don't worry.

00:32:19.660 Ha ha ha.

00:32:20.360 If you're still reading this, woo-ha.

00:32:22.420 You don't, you're not nearly as busy as you think,

00:32:25.500 or you're a very nice person.

00:32:27.340 Sending you all the best always.

00:32:31.800 XXB87.

00:32:32.600 So there you have it.

00:32:34.120 And we also know that she got Bradley Cooper to watch the movie twice,

00:32:37.940 and she thanked him in the credits as well.

00:32:40.520 So we are really starting to get a really good picture here of what actually went down.

00:32:46.580 I'm so disturbed by all of this.

00:32:48.840 I don't know about you guys.

00:32:49.960 Let me know what you think.

00:32:51.100 I had no idea that so many people were involved at this level.

00:32:56.960 And as I spoke about in the other episode,

00:32:59.160 how Ryan orchestrated everything behind the scenes,

00:33:03.480 and trying to turn Sony against Justin,

00:33:06.360 and trying to make them write these statements.

00:33:08.860 Well, if you missed that episode, I did publish one before.

00:33:12.400 This one, I will link it below so you get that,

00:33:15.120 so you can watch that as well.

00:33:16.500 It's really interesting, and it says a lot about Ryan Reynolds.

00:33:20.080 Anyways, that's it for me.

00:33:22.280 I was going to make some short episodes, but these are really long.

00:33:24.920 I'm sorry about that.

00:33:26.140 But I just want to keep you guys informed.

00:33:28.360 So anyways, if you haven't subscribed,

00:33:30.260 please do and hit the notification bell

00:33:31.980 so you never miss an episode of Flossom Talk.

00:33:33.800 And I'll see you soon.

00:33:35.420 Bye.

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00:33:45.620 Yeah.

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