Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - June 14, 2026


Blake Won NOTHING !!


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A judge has ruled in favor of Blake Lively in her case against Baldoni and the Wayfair Parties. She won't get her attorney's fees, but no damages. What does this mean for her reputation? Will she ever be able to post on social media again? And will she ever get her reputation back?

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00:00:00.000 To me, she won the day that she can open up her comment section on Instagram.
00:00:10.900 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Kjæshti Flår, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:15.700 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:20.320 Oh my god, I'm sure you were as shocked as me yesterday when you learned about the judge's new ruling.
00:00:27.060 I was going to take this weekend off and enjoy Mallorca, but then I decided I just have to hop on here and talk about this.
00:00:34.120 So as you know, after the settlement, Blake Lively asked to get her attorney's fees covered by Baldoni and the Wayfair parties. 0.85
00:00:41.180 And on top of that, she wanted treble damages and punitive damages.
00:00:45.640 She wanted to punish them as much as possible because they sued her back.
00:00:51.220 And that is what the judge now has ruled on.
00:00:54.480 he wrote 47 pages explaining his reason for giving Blake her attorney's fees but not giving her any
00:01:03.480 damages. I've seen a lot of outlets report on this like Blake Lively won her attorney's fees
00:01:09.940 that is not true she won a small portion of her attorney's fees meaning that she can get a 0.68
00:01:17.860 reasonable amount of attorney's fees from the wayfair parties, but only the money she spent
00:01:24.540 on defending herself against their countersuit. So as far as I remember, she wrote about two motions
00:01:30.480 to dismiss against that case. So this is a very, very small portion of the money she spent on suing
00:01:37.200 them. But the judge explained also very clearly why he will not give her any damages. If she wants
00:01:44.040 to seek any damages, she has to do that in a different vehicle. One of the things that she
00:01:49.720 could do is sue him in California for these damages. I don't know if she's going to do that,
00:01:56.260 but I wouldn't be surprised if she actually does. Nothing surprises me about this case anymore.
00:02:02.480 But the thing is, Blake Lively won nothing. Because also when you think about it, who is
00:02:08.540 going to pay for these attorney's fees. Not just in Baldoni, not the wayfarer parties. Their
00:02:13.900 insurance company is going to pay these fees and they're going straight to her attorneys. It's not
00:02:19.780 like Blake Lively is getting any money. She just has to pay her lawyers a tiny bit amount less 0.54
00:02:25.080 than she would have had to if she didn't get these fees. The way I see it, this law just opened up a
00:02:31.920 lot of possibilities for people who want to be dishonest. For example, if you stole money from
00:02:38.900 your company and you're worried that your boss might find out about it, you can just sue him
00:02:44.620 for SH before he has the chance to sue you. Because if you sue him first for SH, he cannot
00:02:52.340 sue you back. So as far as I understand, if any woman is in trouble out there and are thinking
00:02:57.860 that someone might sue them for something, they could just jump in front and sue them first,
00:03:03.540 because then this California law is going to protect them. Isn't that crazy? I'm not a legal
00:03:09.460 expert, but this is what it looks like to me. Anyways, the way I see this entire ridiculous 0.87
00:03:15.000 circus is that Blake Lively has done all of this to get her reputation back. And the more she's 0.99
00:03:21.660 trying to punish the wayfair parties, the worse her reputation gets. So by doing all of these 0.56
00:03:27.600 things now, she's just damaging her reputation more and more. And the way I see it, if you can't
00:03:34.660 post anything on Instagram to celebrate your victory, did you really get your reputation back?
00:03:42.020 I noticed Blake hasn't mentioned any of this on her social media channels. And the reason for that,
00:03:47.960 I believe is that she knows they're going to be a community note on any sort of statement or any
00:03:55.380 post that she makes on Instagram about this win. And also of course you know she can't have her
00:04:01.140 comment section open and neither can her husband. So how did they win anything? To me she won the
00:04:09.120 day that she can open up her comment section on Instagram. The day when that happens I will say
00:04:16.260 okay, Blake Lively managed to get her reputation back. 0.75
00:04:19.880 But before that happens, she is in a worse position that she ever was.
00:04:24.120 It's funny how five minutes after this ruling,
00:04:27.020 Ezra Hudson and Michael Gottlieb called up their BFF, Dominic Patton, over at Deadline.
00:04:33.380 As you know, this guy has been their mouthpiece since this whole spectacle started.
00:04:39.300 And his headline yesterday was this.
00:04:42.480 Blake gets Baldoni's bucks for lawyers, but not damages yet.
00:04:48.840 Planting a seed that, of course, she'll also get her damages.
00:04:53.640 And he said something here that is completely factually wrong.
00:04:59.180 He's saying here, how much those fees will be is to be determined,
00:05:03.420 talking about these legal fees.
00:05:05.320 And of course, those fees that she can get has to be reasonable. 1.00
00:05:09.760 and they have to prove in courts there's going to be a lot of new filings from this
00:05:14.900 where she has to prove that these attorneys' fees are reasonable. 1.00
00:05:18.780 As you know, I think I heard somewhere that she actually had seven lawyers writing these motions to dismiss.
00:05:26.760 And I'm sure since they're from these expensive, fancy law firms, I'm sure they charge about $3,000 an hour.
00:05:33.320 And I don't think that the judge is going to think that is reasonable.
00:05:36.880 I heard some people said that this would be in the millions, but I don't know.
00:05:41.140 I don't understand how that could happen.
00:05:43.000 To be honest with you, how could it be in the millions to write two motions to dismiss?
00:05:47.840 Maybe I'm missing something there, but I don't know.
00:05:50.660 Anyways, let's get back to deadlines reporting here.
00:05:53.580 So he says, how much those fees will be is to be determined.
00:05:57.560 However, he says, a conservative estimation is it will be tens of millions
00:06:03.900 for the legions of lawyers that Lively alone employed since before the court fights began
00:06:10.560 and even before she filed her initial S. age and retaliation complaint in late 2024
00:06:17.940 against Baldoni and his inner circle with the California Civil Rights Department.
00:06:23.620 Either he's pretending that he doesn't know what happened here or he's straight out lying
00:06:28.960 because this was never about Blake getting her attorney's fees back
00:06:33.280 on the money she spent to sue Justin and the wayfair parties.
00:06:37.600 This money, these fees were only to get back what she spent
00:06:41.340 to defend herself against their lawsuit.
00:06:45.120 And Dominic Patton here, he doesn't understand that, I think.
00:06:49.020 Or maybe he was just fed this by Ezra Hudson and Michael Gottlieb.
00:06:53.140 Let's see what they say here,
00:06:54.400 because there is a statement from Blake Lively's attorneys.
00:06:57.560 They're saying here that Blake Lively won her motion under civil code section 47.1.
00:07:05.140 Lively's lawyers Ezra Hudson and Michael Gottlieb told Deadline.
00:07:10.220 Today's ruling makes it clear that Ms. Lively brought her claims in good faith that there was no evidence she acted with malice and that she is the prevailing defendant under section 47.1.
00:07:23.860 So the problem for the Wayfair parties, I have to say that first, is that they couldn't prove
00:07:28.720 that she sued them with malice. And to prove something like that, that she knew what she said
00:07:35.240 was false and that she told somebody because they needed evidence that she could have said
00:07:41.440 something like, hey, I'm going to tell people that he said that my 1C was sexy, but I didn't
00:07:47.580 feel uncomfortable in the moment. I'm just going to say that I did. Something like that, for example,
00:07:52.560 I'm guessing that would be with a malice that she sued them in bad faith and of course they
00:07:58.440 couldn't prove that and as I said the other day they also used against Justin Baldoni when he said
00:08:04.640 that these people are so delusional that they actually believe what they're saying and then
00:08:09.600 they were like oh yeah he said that he believes that they believe what they're saying so it can't 0.96
00:08:14.960 be in bad faith anyways so dumb and Gottlieb and Ezra Hudson also added here the court is awarding
00:08:22.040 Ms. Lively's attorney's fees and costs and has explained that a prevailing defendant under 0.87
00:08:26.560 section 47.1 may seek damages using different procedural mechanisms. The party settlement
00:08:33.800 agreement expressly preserves Ms. Lively's right to obtain those damages. Ms. Lively is gratified
00:08:39.920 that her lawsuit shows how section 47.1 and laws like it create a path for survivors to hold
00:08:46.960 accountable those who weaponize online attacks and retaliatory lawsuits to intimidate and silence
00:08:53.740 survivors. It's so interesting. First of all, of course, she's not a survivor, but it's so
00:08:59.980 interesting how she has, as I just mentioned, silenced herself. She has been silenced on social
00:09:06.840 media for speaking up for other survivors. Isn't it interesting how she says that she's spoken up,
00:09:13.480 but then she's been silenced yeah very ironic and I think now after I'm sure Ryan Reynolds called
00:09:20.600 her lawyers so many times yelling and screaming at them over the phone saying you effing better
00:09:27.280 give us a win now we need a win and that's why they're just like parading this around as some
00:09:33.980 kind of win and this is how her lawyers are going to try to convince her and Ryan that she won
00:09:39.560 something like look you won aren't we great and ryan would be like no you're not great and you
00:09:46.220 promised us but we could win this case in court otherwise we would have never hired you and now
00:09:51.820 you owe us this and that you just imagine how he's been going off on these attorneys over the phone
00:09:57.500 and now they're like look ryan we won okay so let's jump to how daily mail is covering this
00:10:04.240 Thank you, Daily Mail, for telling the truth.
00:10:06.880 Their headline is, Justin Baldoni declares victory after Blake Lively suffers fresh court setback that proves there was no smear campaign and no SH.
00:10:19.460 That is a little bit of a different headline there than from Deadline.
00:10:23.260 It is here that Brian Friedman came out with a statement saying that once again, Lively has failed in her efforts to win damages from his clients after the collapse of the pair's sprawling legal battle over it ends with us.
00:10:36.200 Throughout this process, innocent people had their reputations unfairly tarnished.
00:10:41.980 There was no S-H.
00:10:43.540 There was no retaliation.
00:10:45.240 There was no smear campaign, he said.
00:10:47.440 The court recognized it.
00:10:48.900 The record reflects it and we have maintained it from the very beginning.
00:10:54.940 We would not hesitate to stand up for the truth again.
00:10:58.800 Friedman also pointed out here that Blake had demanded over $300 million.
00:11:03.960 That ended up being $650 million or something like that. 1.00
00:11:07.080 Something crazy because she wanted punitive damages and triple damages on top of that.
00:11:13.240 And she came out with zero.
00:11:15.080 so still there is no winning here also he's pointing out that all her sh claims and retaliation
00:11:23.640 claims are gone so no matter how her attorneys are trying to twist this around to make people
00:11:29.940 believe that what she was actually telling was the truth it's just absurd yeah these attorneys
00:11:35.800 are as delusional as their clients so as you know also as i mentioned last week victoria burke
00:11:42.760 the author or the architect behind this 47.1 this me too law did not support that Blake Lively
00:11:51.880 should get her attorney's fees covered and now they're parading around like this is some kind
00:11:57.720 of victory but again this whole scenario has cost Blake Lively over 30 million dollars in legal fees
00:12:05.300 and she's not going to get that back and also her reputation she is never going to get that back
00:12:12.100 And I also wonder who is paying for this smear campaign now, because as you know, it's still
00:12:18.100 ongoing. I would say that it's much worse than ever before. So how are they explaining what's
00:12:25.120 going on right now? How are they explaining that they have to close off their comment section
00:12:29.740 and everyone they're tagging any pictures or any events also have to close off their comment
00:12:34.660 section? How are they explaining that smear campaign? Just asking who's financing it. So
00:12:41.300 yeah, now we just have to wait and see how much money she's going to ask for. I'm sure she's going 1.00
00:12:45.360 to push this to the limit. And of course, the judge is going to say no to that. And then they're 0.58
00:12:50.820 going to go back and forth. And the wayfair parties are going to object to the amount that
00:12:55.020 she's asking for. But she also has to share a lot of information on how she managed to get 0.51
00:12:59.660 to this amount. So we're also going to find out how much Ezra Hudson and Michael Gottlieb,
00:13:03.960 her two main attorneys got paid for allegedly I have to say lying for their clients. Anyways in
00:13:12.960 the middle of all of this Ryan Reynolds posted on his Instagram that he was on a private jet
00:13:18.900 on his way to watch a soccer game. As you know he actually went to UN to sign a contract with them
00:13:26.980 to promise sustainability for on behalf of his soccer team Wrexham and then his flying
00:13:33.280 private himself and bragging about it on social media i'm sure he just wanted justin baldoni to
00:13:40.560 see that he is flying private he is so rich and he's just living his life this doesn't affect him
00:13:46.780 at all also i have to show this photo thank you cynthia for sending this right now at target
00:13:54.240 another clearance of lake brown you can now get these products for 13 and 29 cents i've seen them
00:14:01.780 cheaper other places as well but great catch thank you so much Cynthia for sending me that
00:14:07.320 and that's it from you guys Oscar my executive producer is really tired he just had a swim in
00:14:12.860 the ocean so he's exhausted and needed a nap as usual always napping at work anyways I hope you
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