Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - June 17, 2026


What Just Happened !?!?


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00:00:00.000 And I can assure you, Blake Lively's attorneys are not happy about that.
00:00:09.400 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Siashti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:13.920 and your voice of reason in a town built on the illusion.
00:00:18.320 So Brian Friedman, Justin Baldoni's attorney, just released the entire settlement agreement.
00:00:24.980 And I can assure you, Blake Lively's attorneys are not happy about that.
00:00:30.000 let's get into it and also the judge has given Blake a deadline to when she shall file all the
00:00:37.040 paperwork to prove how much she spent on defending herself against Baldoni and the Wayfair parties
00:00:43.840 the deadline is June 22nd and then Baldoni's team has a week to respond to that so I'm sure
00:00:51.800 she's not going to get what she's asking for and finally the judge has to rule on how much money 0.87
00:00:58.860 she is going to get. It also seems like there's going to be an end to all the misinformation out
00:01:04.140 there. Brian Friedman went on Megyn Kelly yesterday talking about this settlement agreement and why
00:01:10.920 he decided to go public with everything. You got to hear this. And let's talk about the Hollywood
00:01:17.020 reporter who finally wrote a story that is not 100% pro-Blake Lively. They're saying it ends with
00:01:25.320 a settlement post-mortem, Blake Lively made a bold wager on a legal theory and lost. I'm sure
00:01:34.640 they're not too happy about that. And I found this this morning on Reddit. I love Reddit. There's so
00:01:41.120 many amazing internet sleuths out there. So someone posted the registration of Maximum
00:01:47.360 Effort, Ryan Reynolds' company, and pointing out that one of their activities that they are
00:01:53.400 mentioning here is that they're also doing content creation and people are speculating if they're
00:01:59.440 actually paying content creators to push for pro Blake Lively content and pro Ryan Reynolds content
00:02:05.960 and when you look at community notes like this one that happened on a Hollywood Reporter article
00:02:11.680 I think it's reasonable to speculate around that. Also there is some news in a lawsuit that has been
00:02:18.040 tightly linked to this lawsuit between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, the actress and
00:02:23.720 activist Alexa Nicholas sued Brian Friedman, Melissa Nathan and Jed Wallace for orchestrating 0.98
00:02:31.780 a smear campaign against her. But now it looks like she kind of just wants it to go away for
00:02:37.300 some reason. Let's look into that. And before we start with all this Hollywood mess, I just wanted
00:02:42.320 to share some really amazing news. So as you know, I've been really invested in saving these beagles
00:02:49.920 from testing facilities in the US. It's so crazy to me that that's even legal. And I interviewed
00:02:56.340 one of the activists here on my channel. I published that interview on Saturday. He's now
00:03:01.300 facing up to 31 years in prison for helping rescuing these dogs from these horrific testing
00:03:07.020 facilities. But yesterday there was some great news that the testing facility that he helped
00:03:13.420 save these dogs from is shutting down for good. I received an email today from Big Dog Ranch
00:03:21.440 Rescue who's taking care of all the rescued beagles and they say today's a landmark
00:03:27.060 Ridgeland farm is permanently closing and today 325 beagles are entering our rescue. In six weeks
00:03:34.920 we will welcome the remaining 150 puppies completing the final release of dogs from the
00:03:41.220 facility. And they're saying that that makes the total number of Beagle that they rescued
00:03:45.520 2,110 dogs. If you want to help this rescue team, I will leave a link below if you want to donate
00:03:53.820 to them and also for the petition that you can sign to stop testing on dogs in the U.S. as well.
00:04:00.440 There is still a major facility doing these kind of things.
00:04:04.860 It's called Marshall Bio Resources, and they have between 20 and 23,000 beagles still in
00:04:13.760 captivity there.
00:04:15.300 And Dean is working really hard to get these dogs out.
00:04:18.740 And also remember that he is facing 31 years in prison for helping to rescue these dogs.
00:04:24.800 So it's important to still keep pressure on.
00:04:27.640 But this was really great news today, and it makes me so happy to share it with all of you guys.
00:04:32.600 Anyways, let's get into the drama in Hollywood.
00:04:35.460 So yesterday, Brian Friedman did a very unusual thing by publishing the entire settlement agreement between the Wayfair parties and Blake Lively.
00:04:49.060 And the reason for doing that, I think, is because he doesn't want any more confusion out there of what it actually said.
00:04:57.060 So we can read from this agreement that something that we already knew that Blake got zero dollars from the wafer parties.
00:05:05.880 But another interesting thing here, which is why I think he did this, is that there's been a lot of speculations if Blake Lively could try to get her damages in another vehicle in another court, probably in California.
00:05:20.700 I was speculating around that as well because Blake Lively's attorneys insinuated that that was a part of their plan.
00:05:29.260 But now reading the settlement agreements, there are some interesting facts there that changes things a little bit.
00:05:36.020 So this is how Brian Friedman explained this to Megyn Kelly.
00:05:39.960 I mean, honestly, whether there is a legitimate avenue remaining for her to try to punish him more with these damages.
00:05:47.400 I think what Judge Lyman was ruling on was he was saying, look, there were other ways this could have been done and that that was not chosen, that that was not the path that was chosen.
00:05:59.940 And as a result of that, there is no ability then to recover punitive damages, treble damages or compensatory damages.
00:06:09.840 The only recovery that's allowable at this point is attorney's fees.
00:06:15.940 Yeah, so Brian Friedman is saying here that Blake can't really take this anywhere else and try to get triple damages and punitive damages, which we know could end up being a lot of money.
00:06:27.760 But that totally contradicts what Blake Lively's attorneys have been saying since the judge ruled on these fees.
00:06:35.180 As you know, she is entitled to get fees, but no damages.
00:06:39.920 And of course, these fees are not going to be in the millions that some media outlets have been speculating in.
00:06:47.100 We have to mention that New York Times is also asking to get their attorney's fees covered and they're asking for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
00:06:54.600 And they basically defended themselves against the same lawsuit.
00:06:58.580 So if Blake Lively is going to ask for millions and the New York Times spent one hundred fifty thousand dollars, that doesn't really add up.
00:07:05.360 So what Blake's attorneys was hanging on to when they did these, when they shared these
00:07:10.800 statements to different outlets was that the judge said that if she's looking for damages,
00:07:17.740 she has to use other vehicles.
00:07:20.240 So they're saying that the judge opened the door to that, but still they signed in the
00:07:25.440 agreements that they're not allowed to do that.
00:07:28.660 So let's look at what they actually signed in this settlement agreement.
00:07:32.400 In this little part, they're saying that the parties have already agreed to and have already released a mutual statement regarding this agreement, which is attached, blah, blah, blah.
00:07:42.080 That was the statement that they gave out that Blake Lively's attorneys later used against them.
00:07:46.880 As you know, she deserved to be heard, they said.
00:07:49.720 And as you know, Lively's team used that against them later, saying that, oh, they said she deserved to be heard.
00:07:54.760 So that means it was true.
00:07:56.880 And that means there was no malice in what she did and said.
00:07:59.680 So, yeah, that's how they operate.
00:08:01.080 We know that.
00:08:02.400 They also say here, the parties agree that now withstanding anything heraim to the contrary,
00:08:09.260 Lively does not release and retains all claims, rights and remedies relating to her pending 47.1 motion.
00:08:17.720 At that time, that motion was pending.
00:08:20.980 That motion is the Me Too law that she was trying to use to get the attorney's fees and damages.
00:08:26.180 The parties agree that any and all proceedings related to the pending 47.1 motion will be heard before Judge Lyman, the Wayfair Party's expressively reservable claims, rights and remedies relating to Lively's 47.1.
00:08:44.080 motion including without limitation the right to oppose any substantive or procedural motion
00:08:50.900 letter to the court request for relief or argument asserted by lively and the parties agree to
00:08:58.600 irrevocably i don't know how to say that word waive any and all appellate rights associated
00:09:04.980 with the wayfarers complaint or the lively complaint including any appeal or challenge
00:09:11.860 to disposition of the 47.1 motion, whether by Judge Lyman or otherwise.
00:09:19.340 To me, that sounds like she can't bring this motion anywhere else 0.99
00:09:23.580 and try to get these damages anywhere else.
00:09:26.580 So let's look at what Blake's attorney said to Deadline
00:09:28.780 five minutes after the judge had ruled on these fees.
00:09:32.100 As you know, Dominic Patton at Deadline has been writing
00:09:35.820 on behalf of Blake Lyman's attorneys this entire time.
00:09:38.960 And he had this headline on the article saying,
00:09:41.860 Blake gets Baldoni's bucks for lawyers, but not damages yet.
00:09:47.200 And then he's saying here how much those fees will be.
00:09:51.300 The fees that she's now getting is to be determined.
00:09:54.280 However, a conservative estimation is it will be in the tens of millions 0.98
00:09:59.420 for the legions of lawyers that Lively alone employed
00:10:02.980 since before the court fight began, blah, blah, blah.
00:10:06.580 Of course, this is totally misleading.
00:10:08.720 It's not going to be in the tens of millions.
00:10:10.320 And he's insinuating here that Baldoni has to pay for all her legal fees.
00:10:16.820 As you know, that is not true.
00:10:18.920 And as you know, Blake spent about 30, between 30 to 60 million dollars.
00:10:23.340 That's what Friedman said in that interview on her attorneys.
00:10:27.260 So for her to get $150,000 back or less than that, maybe, I don't know.
00:10:33.580 I don't think that's a win in any way.
00:10:35.640 But anyways, this is interesting.
00:10:37.200 So here, Blake Lively's attorneys are quoted in a statement saying this,
00:10:42.960 the court is awarding Ms. Lively attorney's fees and costs and has explained that a prevailing defendant under Section 47.1 may seek damages using different procedural mechanisms.
00:10:56.860 The party settlement agreement expressively preserved Ms. Lively's rights to obtain those damages.
00:11:02.900 i mean they were just contradicting what they signed in that settlement agreement it didn't
00:11:10.260 say that at all miss lively is gratified that her lawsuit shows how section 47.1 laws like
00:11:17.020 like it create a path for survivors blah blah blah to hold accountable those who weaponize
00:11:22.780 online attacks retaliatory lawsuit to intimidate and silence survivors whatever but nowhere does
00:11:28.220 say in the settlement agreement that they preserve Ms. Lively's rights to obtain damages.
00:11:34.320 They just made that up. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, I wonder how they're going to come out and
00:11:38.920 defend this now, because I'm sure they're going to respond to the fact that Brian Friedman released
00:11:43.580 this. And they're saying that this is a continuation of the smear campaign and throw in some
00:11:49.320 Darvo and whatever, you know, how they operate. So, yeah, let's see how that ends. And also, 0.99
00:11:55.060 as i mentioned in the beginning here how the hollywood reporter published this article saying
00:12:00.880 it ends with a settlement post-mortem blake lively made a bold wager on a legal theory and lost
00:12:07.660 the case that captivated hollywood ends with justin baldoni paying legal fees but no additional
00:12:13.780 financial concession to lively whose team had bet on that outcome also here that's misleading it's
00:12:21.680 not Justin Baldoni paying the legal fees it sounds like he is personally paying these fees
00:12:27.260 that's not gonna happen and there were a lot of other defendants here so to just point at him like
00:12:32.260 that yeah whatever but I have to mention that this whole article in the Hollywood Reporter
00:12:37.240 is basically just quoting Brian Friedman for the first time I've seen they've done actually
00:12:43.780 a reasonable balanced article about this mess and they're quoting what Brian Friedman said on the
00:12:51.000 meghan kelly show here he said all blake lively needed to do was to say no i'm not settling let's
00:12:56.220 go to trial and the jury of our peers and let's see what we can get if it was so good why do you
00:13:02.320 settle a case exchanging no money it doesn't make any sense it doesn't pass the smell test he said
00:13:08.600 and then they say this there will never be a definite answer of who came out on top in the
00:13:13.460 court of public opinion it appears sentiment against lively shifted as the litigation escalated
00:13:20.280 I think it's pretty clear where the public opinion is.
00:13:23.500 And then they say the last remaining issue before the court is how much Baldoni should pay in legal fees.
00:13:28.300 Still nothing is stopping Lively from pursuing another lawsuit for damages over his allegedly retaliatory defamation claim,
00:13:36.280 though Friedman is of the belief that it's now time to move on.
00:13:41.840 Yes, it seems like no one really agrees if Blake could or could not pursue these damages somewhere else.
00:13:49.020 I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know.
00:13:51.160 But when I'm reading the contradictory language here, I am very confused about this.
00:13:56.560 Let me know what you think in the comment section.
00:13:58.640 Could she go somewhere else? 1.00
00:13:59.680 The question is, if she does, could they then sue her for breach of contract because she
00:14:05.820 signed a contract that she wouldn't do it?
00:14:07.980 I don't know.
00:14:08.780 Very, very confusing stuff here.
00:14:10.940 Anyways, let's get into this Reddit post that caught my attention this morning, mentioning
00:14:16.280 maximum effort.
00:14:17.680 As you know, that's Ryan Reynolds Marketing Company, which is now also apparently registered last year as a content creation company.
00:14:26.920 And someone on Reddit posted this.
00:14:29.060 I noticed a couple of content creators claiming that Blake Lively won because the judge ordered Wayfair to pay all Lively's fees.
00:14:38.420 What's interesting is that they have only appeared after a year and a half of litigation.
00:14:42.940 and they're often relying on the same tactics her supporters in Other Sub has used throughout
00:14:49.320 with selective facts, half-truths, and narrative manipulation.
00:14:54.360 It reminded me of a post Mysterio, I don't know who that is, shared some time ago,
00:14:59.560 highlighting how Ryan Reynolds' maximum effort evolved from producing ads for his films and other companies
00:15:05.200 into a social media marketing company.
00:15:07.520 Are Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds paying content creators to manipulate the internet
00:15:12.300 via maximum effort?
00:15:13.800 As we've learned in this case, all Lively and Reynolds accusations are actually confessions.
00:15:19.600 That is so true.
00:15:21.620 Something I've said a few times here on my channel as well.
00:15:24.780 Very interesting.
00:15:26.200 And that brings me to this community note.
00:15:29.000 Thank you, Amanda, for pointing this out.
00:15:31.520 This was on Hollywood Reporter on threads.
00:15:35.060 they don't have this on their instagram account for some reason but she saw this on thread this
00:15:42.340 is the story a hollywood reporter published the day that the judge ruled that blake should get
00:15:47.960 her attorney's fees covered and they said in the title blake lively's legal fees to be paid for by
00:15:54.100 justin baldoni court orders very misleading headline if you ask me leaning very much towards
00:16:00.020 Blake but then they added a description here saying Blake Lively will have her legal fees
00:16:05.020 paid by Justin Baldoni but isn't entitled to damages for harm caused by his defamation claim
00:16:11.880 a court found Friday. As we learned so many times from the trade magazines reporting on this
00:16:16.800 all of them have leaned towards Blake Lively and then this community note here is quite interesting
00:16:22.440 because it doesn't attack the fact that this headline is misleading that Justin Baldoni does
00:16:28.180 not have to pay her legal fees he has to pay a small amount and it's not him having to pay
00:16:33.560 it's the wayfair party whatever anyways let's talk about the community note it says judge
00:16:37.880 lyman noted that justin baldoni's team failed to provide any evidence that blake lively acted
00:16:43.660 with malice when she made her original claims against him that has nothing to do with this
00:16:49.400 article at all they are saying that she's getting fees but no damages and then they're just adding
00:16:55.520 this information so now it makes me believe this is what maximum effort is up to just posting a lot
00:17:02.540 of community notes to get more information out there just random facts i mean of course he
00:17:09.140 couldn't prove that she filed her lawsuit with malice because he's not inside blake wife's head
00:17:15.140 which is basically where you have to be to prove malice because if she didn't tell that to the
00:17:20.040 world that i filed this lawsuit knowing it was false then there's no evidence of that um so yeah
00:17:26.860 very interesting observation there and then there's a few interesting comments as well saying
00:17:31.440 i'm positive he has content creators working for him but also positive he doesn't pay them
00:17:36.360 someone saying here he's more than likely scamming them to do it for free under some sort of
00:17:41.660 beneficial guys such as training them promising them bigger and better things in the future like
00:17:47.580 when they ripped off that photographer they used and conned for years by using her aviation gin
00:17:53.800 photographs so true i have another story coming up soon with someone who worked on a set with
00:18:00.600 ryan reynolds and that person could tell me a lot of similar stories and how they were being used to
00:18:07.860 work for ryan for free so that does not surprise me at all as you know they also failed to pay
00:18:14.780 their contractors in that house they're building, which was a big news story a couple of weeks ago.
00:18:19.780 Yeah, I'm not surprised by anything anymore when it comes to Ryan Reynolds for some reason.
00:18:24.060 Anyway, so let's look at this other lawsuit that Blake Lively used also against the Wayfair parties.
00:18:30.080 So this Nickelodeon actress called Alexa Nicholas also sued Brian Friedman, Justin Baldwin's attorney,
00:18:38.820 Jed Wallace, the hired gun behind the smear machine, and Melissa Nathan,
00:18:43.800 the crisis manager who also Justin Baldoni hired to help him out of the mess during the It Ends
00:18:51.740 With Us saga. So she sued these people for orchestrating a smear campaign against her,
00:18:58.240 mainly a smear website that was spreading lies about her according to her lawsuit. So I was
00:19:04.240 trying to figure out her motivation for suing these people who is behind this smearing. I mean
00:19:09.720 they must have been hired by someone at least to try and smear her. And there was a link there
00:19:15.320 because Brian Friedman represented her ex-husband Michael Mills when she sued him for SA and
00:19:23.480 intentional infliction of emotional distress. She later, he denied all those claims and she later
00:19:30.380 just dropped that lawsuit. But that made her furious with Brian Friedman and she's been
00:19:35.680 advocating for victims for a long time and she believes that this smear campaign was orchestrated
00:19:42.520 against her because of that she doesn't believe that it's her ex-husband behind it she doesn't
00:19:47.520 really clarify who's behind it but anyways as you know the hollywood reporter picked that up
00:19:53.740 creating this big expose about the smear machine in hollywood a few months ago connecting blake
00:20:02.060 Lively's case to this case and to the Rebel Wilson case which I also talked about here on my channel
00:20:09.620 and now for some reason it seems like Alexa has lost her interest in this case so she explained
00:20:17.900 that it was because of Blake Lively's lawsuit that she figured out who had who was behind her
00:20:24.680 smear campaign as well and as you know Blake tried to use this case in her case against them saying
00:20:31.200 that this is a pattern. Look, they did this to Alexa as well. But just a few days ago, the judge
00:20:36.580 put on the record that Alexa had failed to serve the defendants in this case. She had not filed
00:20:46.360 any proof of that service on the docket. And now the judge said, we have to have a meeting with
00:20:52.620 you. So she has to come to court on September 28th to explain why she has failed to do this. 0.93
00:20:58.840 She could be sanctioned for that, and eventually her lawsuit could also be dismissed if she keeps failing to do things like this.
00:21:07.420 To me, it's really interesting and strange that she all of a sudden kind of loses interest in her own case here.
00:21:14.940 Why did she bring on this case in the first place if she's not interested in pursuing it?
00:21:20.180 It's very tempting to speculate that Blake and Ryan maybe helped her or encouraged her.
00:21:29.440 I'm just going to say that these are just speculations in filing that lawsuit.
00:21:34.160 And now they don't need that lawsuit anymore because she's settled hers and there's no other vehicle here, according to Brian Friedman, not according to them.
00:21:43.460 So there's no reason for her to really pursue this.
00:21:46.380 or has she realized that she doesn't have any evidence at all as Blake Lively did and then just
00:21:51.580 had to settle it I don't know but should be interesting to follow this as well and I have to
00:21:57.100 say reading about all these smear websites as you know Stephanie Jones Justin Baldoni's publicist
00:22:04.060 who later ended up suing him and jumped over to Blake Lively's team she also claimed that she
00:22:11.820 has been a victim of a smear campaign and she also said that it's the same people behind her
00:22:19.100 smear website but when you look at these women who are accusing the same people of smearing them
00:22:25.080 all of them have been very controversial figures so stephanie jones is a very unpopular person
00:22:33.720 and we've learned that through all the text messages that have been released in this case
00:22:38.280 she was called the c-word by so many different people one of them being Blake Lively's own
00:22:45.680 publicist so there's so many people who could have potentially created a website like that
00:22:51.200 and as I just said Alexa sued her ex-husband and then just voluntarily dismissed everything
00:22:56.800 herself and then of course there is the Weber Wilson case that I also spoke about here on my
00:23:01.480 channel and I have to say I have no idea if any of these people had anything to do with any of
00:23:06.720 these smear websites. But what I have to say is that I think it's so much worse to go to a huge
00:23:12.760 newspaper and a very respected newspaper like the New York Times and feed them with a narrative
00:23:19.400 that was designed to ruin someone's life and ruin someone's reputation. I bet you a lot more people
00:23:27.220 read that article in the New York Times than ever visited any of these smear websites. And I think
00:23:33.380 these anonymous smear websites is a common thing for celebrities to have to deal with when you're
00:23:40.080 a public figure people are going to have opinions about you and they're going to be very vocal about
00:23:45.320 those opinions and some people want to be anonymous when they're vocal about their opinions but as you
00:23:50.660 know there is still one lawsuit that's also active in the Blake Lively world which is Stephanie Jones
00:23:56.480 that publicist suing her publicist that used to work for her and Jennifer Abel which is her name
00:24:03.240 suing her back because she took her phone and gave it to Blake Lively who gave it to the New York
00:24:09.760 Times and everything in that article was based on a few text messages on that phone so in a couple
00:24:16.440 of months I'm guessing we'll get more from that case will we get more evidence because they're
00:24:21.240 in the middle of discovery right now so should be very interesting to follow as well anyways that's
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