Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - May 20, 2026


Blake’s Team BACKPEDALING ?!!


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00:00:00.000 Now we know why Blake Lively settled this late in the case.
00:00:08.720 Hi and welcome to Blossom Talk. I'm Jashti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice
00:00:13.500 of reason in a town built on delusion. If you missed my episode yesterday you may not know that
00:00:19.560 I am not in LA right now. I'm in Spain and this is my studio here in Spain. I also have a bad
00:00:25.920 allergy going on so my eyes are a little weird and swollen so I'm sorry about my appearance right
00:00:32.260 now. Anyways one more thing I want to mention before I start this episode is that there is a
00:00:36.240 Facebook page out there and it's not me. It looks like this and they have a phone number and email
00:00:42.340 and everything there so I'm assuming they're trying to scam people. I've reported this a few
00:00:47.040 times already myself but it's still there so if you want to and if you have time it would be amazing
00:00:52.100 if you also report this page because it would be so horrible if they actually use this to scam
00:00:57.180 people. Anyways, now we know why Blake Lively settled this late in the case. There are some
00:01:03.560 new information out there now and this is really hilarious. And if you watched my episode last week
00:01:09.700 where I talked about Manette, Phelps and Phillips, one of the major legal teams that Blake Lively
00:01:14.400 hired for this case, they bragged on LinkedIn on how this was a big victory for Blake Lively
00:01:21.100 And now it seems like they have deleted the post.
00:01:25.180 Also, we have some new text messages between Blake Lively and Colleen Hoover.
00:01:30.480 These texts clearly show the plotting that was going on behind the scenes
00:01:34.480 and also the love bombing and manipulation from Blake Lively's side.
00:01:39.400 And someone sent me an email reminding me on how Ryan Reynolds
00:01:42.720 sent a long apology letter to Colleen Hoover the day after the premiere of It Ends With Us
00:01:49.420 saying that he was so sorry that he didn't have the time to talk to her on the premiere.
00:01:55.040 And it all makes sense now.
00:01:57.680 And let's also talk about why the movie stars are disappearing from Cannes Film Festival.
00:02:01.540 And one of the movie stars, who was supposed to be a judge right now,
00:02:05.720 Jacob O'Lordi, apparently broke his foot and couldn't make it.
00:02:10.720 But now there's pictures everywhere of him and Kendall Jenner in Hawaii on vacation.
00:02:16.460 Yeah, definitely not a good look for him.
00:02:18.580 Okay, so let's get into it.
00:02:20.320 Brian Reynolds just reposted something from Marina Baccarin on his Instagram.
00:02:26.340 The actress who played his girlfriend in the Deadpool movies
00:02:30.560 just shared this nostalgia from the movie set,
00:02:34.920 saying it was eight years ago today that they did this shoot.
00:02:39.100 And Ryan Reynolds reposted it.
00:02:41.480 As you know, there are so many rumors that Ryan was avoiding Marina
00:02:46.240 at the red carpet of the Deadpool movie and so many people were speculating if something had
00:02:51.940 happened there and why he was shading her like that. And as you know, there were a lot of bad
00:02:57.040 blood between him and TJ Miller as well, also from the Deadpool movies. And for some reason,
00:03:04.300 TJ Miller all of a sudden came out and was like, oh no, Ryan and I, we are friends again. He just
00:03:09.720 called me the other day. So this is what I think is happening right now. Ryan Reynolds came out
00:03:14.860 and started apologizing to these people,
00:03:17.500 saying like, hey, Marina,
00:03:19.280 why don't you publish something about Deadpool right now
00:03:22.760 and I'll repost it and we're good friends again.
00:03:25.460 And you know, I'll do you a favor back if you do that.
00:03:28.100 Because it just doesn't make any sense to me
00:03:29.880 that she's coming out now praising Ryan Reynolds.
00:03:32.340 What do you think?
00:03:33.160 Do you think Ryan is calling up all these people
00:03:35.140 that he rubbed the wrong way?
00:03:36.880 Anyways, also in the meantime,
00:03:38.760 Blake Lively is now posting about pizza,
00:03:41.660 about this pizza place in New York that she really loves.
00:03:44.600 As I said yesterday, all these small businesses are now terrified that Blake Lively is going to 0.77
00:03:49.300 tag their business in any of her Instagram posts or stories. Because as you know, Blake Lively is
00:03:55.760 bad for business. I also found it very interesting that she keeps posting about pizza, and yesterday
00:04:01.520 it was about donuts, all these really unhealthy foods. When we know that she made such a big deal
00:04:06.880 about being fat shamed by Justin Baldoni, and now she's sharing with everyone all the unhealthy 1.00
00:04:12.900 food she's eating. Anyways, I guess she can eat as many pizzas and donuts as she wants in the 0.97
00:04:18.460 forthcoming future because she's not going to prepare for any movie parts anytime soon. Okay,
00:04:23.920 so let's look at this post on LinkedIn that Blake Lively's attorneys apparently just deleted. This
00:04:30.240 was really funny. Thank you, Desi, again for being such an investigative journalist here. So she sent
00:04:36.740 me the post that Manat Phelps and Phillips published on their LinkedIn a few days ago. I
00:04:43.000 think I spoke about this just late last week. And it said, a Manat team led by Ezra Hudson
00:04:49.100 secured a favorable settlement for Blake Lively in her case against Justin Baldoni and Wayfair
00:04:55.880 Studios. This marks another critically important step in Ms. Lively's pursuit of justice after
00:05:01.780 raising concerns about inappropriate behavior during production of It Ends With Us and the 0.76
00:05:07.320 subsequent retaliation campaign levied against her. Then they have a picture of Ezra Hudson here
00:05:14.080 and a little quote from her saying, from day one, Blake Lively's mission was clear,
00:05:18.380 expose and hold accountable those who weaponize smear campaigns and retaliatory lawsuits to
00:05:23.980 intimidate and silence survivors. That mission continues. Anyways, this was their post and it's
00:05:31.620 gone. Isn't that funny? After I reported on this post, I don't know if people went over there and
00:05:37.980 started commenting on it and they were like, maybe we should just review this. Anyways, it's gone now.
00:05:42.640 I forwarded it to Brian Friedman as well, who thought obviously that this was really insane.
00:05:48.120 So yes, I guess Manat is not so proud of this victory anymore. Or maybe they just embarrassed
00:05:53.700 that they were caught in lying. Talking about deleted posts, as I spoke about the other day as
00:05:58.460 well. All the other co-stars of Blake Lively have deleted every single post with her and about It
00:06:06.760 Ends With Us. Brandon Sklenar deleted his entire Instagram, something Colleen Hoover also did.
00:06:11.880 She just went off Instagram, but that was in the middle of the drama. Now she's back, as you know,
00:06:16.940 but no posts of Blake Lively. And the same goes for Brandon Sklenar. But just a reminder to
00:06:22.800 everyone what brandon actually said in his initial post when he's he was supporting blake lively he
00:06:29.540 went on and on about how you should support women and blah blah blah and then at the end of this
00:06:33.220 post he said all i ask is that before you spread hate on the internet ask yourself who it's helping
00:06:38.680 ask yourself if your opinions are based in any facts i love how this all look so terrible right
00:06:47.600 now. Or if you simply want to be part of something, let's be part of something better together, he
00:06:53.480 suggests. A part of a new story being written for women and all people everywhere. Lead with love
00:07:01.460 and please be kind. Yeah, I mean, talk about aging badly. And then he also attached the complaint
00:07:09.580 and the New York Times article and they said, for the love of God, read this. And then he tagged
00:07:16.480 Blake Lively with a heart. I haven't seen many hearts from Brandon Sclinart to Blake Lively
00:07:23.000 lately. I really wonder if any of these people are in contact. And we all remember how America
00:07:28.900 Ferrara also came out to support Blake Lively. She actually still has that post up on her Instagram
00:07:36.380 and it says, as Blake's friend and sisters for over 20 years, we stand with her in solidarity
00:07:42.880 as she fights back against the reported campaign
00:07:46.580 waged to destroy her reputation.
00:07:49.300 Throughout the filming of It Ends With Us, 0.74
00:07:50.860 we saw her summon the courage to ask for a safe workplace
00:07:54.180 for herself and colleagues on set.
00:07:56.700 And we are appalled to read the evidence
00:08:00.000 of a premeditated and vindictive effort
00:08:02.780 that ensured to discredit her voice. 0.89
00:08:06.740 Most upsetting is the unbashed exploitation
00:08:09.680 of DV survivor stories to silence a woman who asked for safety. The hypocrisy is astounding,
00:08:18.140 she said. Talk about hypocrisy. I think America Ferrara should come out and apologize publicly 0.96
00:08:26.040 for standing by Blake Lively. I was looking at her Instagram and it's flooded with justice for
00:08:33.000 Justin and people saying, you know, come out and apologize. It is okay to make a mistake,
00:08:38.120 But if you do, you have to own up to your mistake.
00:08:41.700 And in this case, a lot of people were fooled.
00:08:44.660 And a lot of people believed Blake Lively.
00:08:46.900 I know so many people out there who read that New York Times article who believed her.
00:08:52.140 And you can't blame them for that.
00:08:53.900 Because as you know, she manipulated the truth so much.
00:08:57.360 So it made it sound believable.
00:08:59.220 And because a very respected newspaper at the time wrote the piece, people ate it up.
00:09:05.940 But it's not too late to apologize.
00:09:08.120 And I hope America Ferrara is going to do that.
00:09:11.060 Anyways, let's look into this People Magazine article.
00:09:13.320 This is so funny.
00:09:14.360 Of course, it mentions that Blake Lively got zero money from this settlement.
00:09:19.460 But the excuse for her settling later in the case made me just laugh so hard.
00:09:25.300 Just listen to this.
00:09:26.260 So it says here that the Wafers lawyers say Blake Lively didn't get a cent of a 300 million
00:09:31.480 sought prior to settlement.
00:09:33.800 A filing confirmed Lively received no settlement payout, but a judge must decide
00:09:38.000 whether she can recover fees or damages under California anti-retaliation law. So the fact that
00:09:43.000 this has become public knowledge must really infuriate Blake Lively's attorneys. I'm sure
00:09:49.260 they fought really hard to keep this part of the settlement secret. As you know, Blake was really
00:09:55.460 fighting for an NDA for Justin and everyone involved, but they did not agree to that. They
00:10:00.380 said, no way, we're going to come out with our truth here. But the fact that it's also been
00:10:05.280 leak that they got zero cents or zero dollars must be really devastating for them because that proves
00:10:13.200 everything. That just proves everything about Blake Lively's case that it was all based on
00:10:19.120 Blake and Ryan's egos, greed and feelings. So here's a source who told People Magazine something
00:10:26.180 really interesting. They say that for Blake Lively this was never about money. Okay we already heard
00:10:31.860 she said that. It was about exposing bad actors who are also harming others. So now it's not about
00:10:39.680 Blake anymore, it's about others. She didn't settle her claims until the documents exposing the bad
00:10:47.640 actors behind smear campaigns were made public. Documents that have led to other lawsuits and
00:10:54.260 investigations, the source added. With this motion, she is breathing life into a groundbreaking
00:11:01.560 statute designed to protect survivors from retaliatory lawsuits. Isn't that noble? She
00:11:09.660 spends millions and millions and millions of dollars for other people to not experience 0.54
00:11:16.540 smear campaigns or underground untraceable smear machines, as her lawyer put it. So that is why
00:11:24.620 this is a victory for Blake. It's not because she got anything out of it, except maybe some
00:11:29.960 attorney's fees if she will ever get that, but it is because she is helping other people. This is
00:11:37.240 all they got. They found out, as you know, that some of the same actors that Justin Baldoni hired
00:11:44.860 were also hired by other celebrities who also are involved in lawsuits but the fact is that
00:11:52.580 Blake Lively could never point to one single article or anything any lies that were spread
00:11:59.580 about her online and there wasn't any smear website about her and the other cases that are
00:12:06.940 insinuating that these people are involved in smearing someone there was a smear website and
00:12:13.240 that's what it's all about, smear websites. There was no smear website against Blake but apparently
00:12:21.100 that doesn't matter for Blake because she feels that what she did was for the greater good
00:12:26.880 and that's why she was happy to spend about 50 million dollars on this lawsuit. Imagine how much
00:12:34.540 good she could have done with that money to actually help real victims instead of spending 1.00
00:12:39.340 them and giving them to attorneys. Also, they added here that by agreeing to the settlement 0.94
00:12:44.420 and waiving their right to appeal, Baldoni and every individual defendant now face personal
00:12:49.540 liability for abusing the legal system to silence and intimidate Ms. Lively, her attorney said in
00:12:55.780 a statement. Yeah, but as you know, Blake Lively also waived her rights to appeals. That's what 0.99
00:13:01.100 you do in a settlement. You waive the rights to appeal to finish something off. And by finding a
00:13:08.020 sneaky backdoor to keep fighting instead? What does that really say about Blake? And what does
00:13:13.480 it say about these attorneys? I mean, it's insane. Anyways, as I said, there are some new text
00:13:18.760 messages that have been unsealed between Blake Lively and Colleen Hoover. These were in the
00:13:24.140 same lump of unsealed documents as the one I mentioned the other day with Jenny Slate,
00:13:28.540 between Jenny Slate and Blake Lively. And these ones tells us a lot about what was going on
00:13:33.640 behind the scenes. It made me think about these text messages when I received this email from
00:13:38.000 Mary Kate. Thank you so much for sending me this. She said, I was thinking about the Colleen Hoover
00:13:42.800 of it all and the text between Jenny and Blake kind of undermining her. Well, that made me think
00:13:48.580 of and go back to Ryan's email to Colleen after the premiere where he says, holy F, you did it,
00:13:55.480 etc. I read up that text message a long time ago. Ryan's text messages are so long, so I'm not
00:14:01.580 gonna repeat that but anyways he was just like oh you're the best blah blah blah and then she
00:14:07.020 continues here to say and apologizes for not talking to her at the premiere due to chatting
00:14:11.520 with the other executives i think he totally snubbed her on that night i wouldn't be surprised
00:14:16.940 if she didn't get much attention from blake either i think they had already conquered her
00:14:21.920 didn't need her anymore and were on the next people they needed to schmooze and love bump
00:14:27.420 I don't think he even called her, he just emailed her.
00:14:30.460 Does that add a bit more to the puzzle about how they really feel about Colleen?
00:14:35.420 Yes, I think you are right.
00:14:38.480 So here is a text exchange between Blake and Colleen.
00:14:41.440 This is from May 21st, or May 20th to May 21st, between the two of them,
00:14:46.620 when Blake Lively is in this bake-off with Justin Baldoni about the edit of the movie.
00:14:51.980 So the two of them are going back and forth about changing up some scenes.
00:14:56.380 and Colleen Hoover has a lot of ideas
00:14:58.580 and Blake is kind of shutting her down
00:15:00.800 saying, yeah, that wouldn't really work
00:15:02.500 because of this and that
00:15:03.540 because Colleen is saying that
00:15:04.840 I think this pause is really important
00:15:06.920 blah, blah, blah
00:15:08.000 then she says, I'm sorry
00:15:09.280 it's not very interesting
00:15:10.580 all these suggestions that she has
00:15:12.280 and then she says to Blake
00:15:13.360 then the very next scene
00:15:14.460 she's asking Ryle if he's happy
00:15:16.740 and we know she's sort of kind of thinking
00:15:19.460 what if
00:15:20.480 and it makes that scene with Ryle hurt even more
00:15:24.140 and then Blake says
00:15:25.340 smart I'll try it my only concern is I haven't married Ryle yet interesting she says I haven't
00:15:31.340 married Ryle yet talking about herself as Lily which makes me believe that she actually think
00:15:38.040 Justin is Ryle herself as I said a lot of pro Blake Lively supporters believe I think that
00:15:43.900 Justin is actually Ryle and maybe Blake also believes that it seems like it here she says
00:15:48.740 I haven't married Ryle yet that's two scenes away Blake is saying so I'm nervous to take
00:15:55.100 away any reasons why she may not dump Ryle for him and Ryle has already abused her oh you're
00:16:01.460 right says Colleen I was thinking this was right after the wedding but Elisa was a red dress
00:16:06.760 pregnant yeah it's so interesting because as you know Colleen had never made a movie before this
00:16:12.580 one and she said so many times that it was such an interesting experience for her because she
00:16:17.540 didn't know really how to make a movie and that makes it even more interesting that she was trying
00:16:22.580 to change things in the script and as you know she sold the rights to this movie to the wayfair
00:16:28.000 parties so when an author sells the rights to a book they sell the right to have an opinion about
00:16:34.660 it most of the time people don't want them to get involved more because it just makes more mess like
00:16:39.420 you can see here and then of course Blake is acting like the screenwriter and director here
00:16:44.060 to her saying yeah that would work no that wouldn't work so then she shuts down this idea
00:16:48.500 and then she says but I do like when she when he was unpacking the food that's smart Blake says
00:16:53.980 she wants to keep some of Colleen's ideas in here to make her happy and then she says and we'll also
00:16:59.700 try the truck again but take my own pass at it I just tweak theirs so she keeps changing things
00:17:06.280 and as you know Sony asked her to change things back most of the things that Blake added to this
00:17:11.260 movie was changed back by Sony and it ended up being more or less just Justin's version that
00:17:16.180 was shown. And then Colleen Lovebombs Blake saying last week when you said you love and are obsessed
00:17:21.420 with work I got really jealous because I used to feel that passion for writing. I get up early and
00:17:27.100 stay up late and never sleep and my kids were your kids ages yet I'd still somehow power through and 0.94
00:17:33.380 get shit done. But this past week has been so much fun working on notes and thinking about the movie
00:17:38.480 and being excited for it all over again and not sleeping. I miss this and now I'm wondering if
00:17:43.740 If it's a result of me like I lost input in the one book I wrote, that means something to me.
00:17:48.840 So thank you for helping me get that back.
00:17:51.000 I know nothing about film, but it's been exciting learning.
00:17:54.520 Even when I give you notes that can't work, you've been so good in explaining why I'm not soaking it all in.
00:18:01.180 Yes, Colleen is really grateful for Blake Lively's input here and for her to allow her to have opinions as well.
00:18:09.300 As you know, she complained to Justin and the Wayfair parties for not listening to her enough
00:18:13.840 as well. And then Blake responds with this. She says, this text honestly made my week. This job
00:18:19.980 has been the hardest of my life for more reasons than I can articulate. All I had was the work.
00:18:27.180 That was it. So I became possessed. Yes, you could say that. I couldn't want any validation
00:18:33.120 of my feelings or experience. That wasn't realistic because it would involve me having
00:18:38.540 to share and in that maybe mess up someone else's experience but slowly I watched the people around
00:18:45.680 me unfortunately have similar experiences but it still felt like everyone at the top level
00:18:51.700 had their heads down so after she allowed Colleen Hoover to have input in the script she's sharing
00:18:58.120 how hard this experience has been for her being on this toxic set and she felt so alone but then
00:19:04.440 she wasn't alone because so many other people felt exactly the same way. And then she added,
00:19:09.720 but it still feels like everyone on the top level had their heads down. They didn't want to get
00:19:13.820 involved. She's talking about Sony here. It was too big to touch until Josh came along. Josh
00:19:20.280 Greenstein was helping out Blake Wiley, as you know, but it was still just him trusting me to
00:19:26.940 be on the right side of this thing. And then you showed up. Here we go. And I use the word showed
00:19:33.160 up because you didn't just email me you showed up capital letters literally physically emotionally
00:19:42.100 creatively and like a big gold plot twist at the happy ending of this hellscape so thank you
00:19:49.640 yours is the only opinion I care about in this film because you're the author but also because
00:19:56.220 you know your audience better than anyone I know your value and I feel you know mine
00:20:01.940 ultimately we all do our best when we feel seen so thank you for this note for showing up for the
00:20:11.000 gift of this story it's been life-changing for worse and now finally it's starting to feel like
00:20:16.640 for better well say that again Blake and then of course Colleen Hoover's love all of these things
00:20:23.380 that Blake Lively said I remember listening to another creator I don't remember who it was who
00:20:27.640 talked about the relationship between Blake and Colleen, saying that Blake was always the cool
00:20:32.500 girl at school. Someone that Colleen probably looked up to and could never hang around because
00:20:37.840 she wasn't one of the cool girls at school. And I feel that's quite spot on here. How Colleen is
00:20:43.380 letting herself be manipulated by Blake. And now finally, she can hang out with a cool girl that
00:20:50.020 she couldn't hang out with in high school. So yeah, back to what Mary-Kate said. I agree with
00:20:55.140 you i think as soon as blake and ryan were done with colleen they were like okay now we can just
00:20:59.780 leave her out there until we need her next time now let's move on to the next people that we can
00:21:04.700 love bomb and manipulate anyways as i mentioned in the beginning of this episode there's also
00:21:09.280 other stuff going on in the world right now there is the can film festival it's just around the
00:21:14.080 corner from me or kind of because i'm in spain and it is in france but this year has been a lot
00:21:20.080 talk about all the Hollywood celebrities that are not showing up and this is quite interesting so
00:21:26.040 it appears that a lot of the big American studios are afraid or worried to premiere the movies at
00:21:32.840 Cannes Film Festival because if they flop if they don't get that 15 minute standing ovation
00:21:39.620 and if people online starts talking it could really ruin the chances of the movie given a
00:21:46.680 chance even at the award season as you know award season is supposed to start in like september
00:21:52.360 it starts off with venice film festival and toronto film festival and then the whole fall
00:21:57.720 it's all this campaigning going on for all these people and movies who wants to receive an oscar
00:22:02.560 and can film festival is mainly seen more as a prestige film festival but now the big film
00:22:09.080 studios are checking it out and basically that is because they know the power of social media
00:22:13.520 They know the power of the public now.
00:22:15.520 Before, they used to invite only journalists to these events,
00:22:18.760 and they had these press conferences, and everything was kind of controlled.
00:22:22.960 But now, when you have influencers everywhere, people reporting online about things,
00:22:28.120 they are worried that it's going to kill the movie before it even gets a chance.
00:22:31.800 So this year, there are not a lot of movie stars present at the Cannes Film Festival.
00:22:38.020 Interestingly enough, Jacob Elordi was invited to be a jury member.
00:22:42.960 alongside Demi Moore and others.
00:22:45.860 I've seen a lot of Demi Moore from the red carpet in Cannes.
00:22:49.040 It seems like she's the only celebrity there somehow.
00:22:51.960 But Jacob Elordi was supposed to go
00:22:53.780 and then he said that he had broken his foot.
00:22:56.740 But today there are some new pictures of him
00:22:59.260 with Kendall Jenner in Hawaii on the beach drinking rosé.
00:23:05.000 Not a very good look for the actor.
00:23:07.860 As you know, his stardom just took off.
00:23:10.460 Earlier this year, he was nominated for an Oscar
00:23:12.520 for his performance in Frankenstein and he was all over the internet when he was promoting
00:23:17.080 Wuthering Heights with Margot Robbie but now he's followed his fellow Oscar nominee Timothy
00:23:22.960 Chalamet's footsteps by starting to date a Jenner or Kardashian. So many people think this is not a
00:23:30.920 good look for him to even be dating a Kardashian but I guess you can't really choose who you fall
00:23:35.500 in love with and a lot of people have problems or issues with these girls but the fact that he
00:23:39.720 didn't show up at Cannes as a jury member, which should be such an honor for you if you are in the
00:23:45.480 industry, and instead went to Hawaii with Kendall Jenner. And as this article in the Daily Mail
00:23:51.480 pointed out, his leg was not in a cast and he was even driving a car. So I don't know if he made up
00:23:58.320 that thing about his foot, but it says here that karma will come fast. So I guess we have to see
00:24:04.300 what excuse he can come up with for all of a sudden not having a broken foot anymore. Anyway,
00:24:09.720 that's it for me you guys thank you so much for watching i really appreciate all your support and
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