Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - May 20, 2026


Blake’s Team BACKPEDALING ?!!


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We know why Blake Lively settled this late in the case. Now we know why Ryan Reynolds is calling up all the people that he rubbed wrong way. Also, why the movie stars are disappearing from Cannes Film Festival and one of the judge who was supposed to be a judge, apparently broke his foot and couldn t make it.

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00:00:00.000 Now we know why Blake Lively settled this late in the case.
00:00:08.720 Hi and welcome to Blossom Talk. I'm Jashti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice
00:00:13.500 of reason in a town built on delusion. If you missed my episode yesterday you may not know that
00:00:19.560 I am not in LA right now. I'm in Spain and this is my studio here in Spain. I also have a bad
00:00:25.920 allergy going on so my eyes are a little weird and swollen so I'm sorry about my appearance right
00:00:32.260 now. Anyways one more thing I want to mention before I start this episode is that there is a
00:00:36.240 Facebook page out there and it's not me. It looks like this and they have a phone number and email
00:00:42.340 and everything there so I'm assuming they're trying to scam people. I've reported this a few
00:00:47.040 times already myself but it's still there so if you want to and if you have time it would be amazing
00:00:52.100 if you also report this page because it would be so horrible if they actually use this to scam
00:00:57.180 people. Anyways, now we know why Blake Lively settled this late in the case. There are some
00:01:03.560 new information out there now and this is really hilarious. And if you watched my episode last week
00:01:09.700 where I talked about Manette, Phelps and Phillips, one of the major legal teams that Blake Lively
00:01:14.400 hired for this case, they bragged on LinkedIn on how this was a big victory for Blake Lively
00:01:21.100 And now it seems like they have deleted the post.
00:01:25.180 Also, we have some new text messages between Blake Lively and Colleen Hoover.
00:01:30.480 These texts clearly show the plotting that was going on behind the scenes
00:01:34.480 and also the love bombing and manipulation from Blake Lively's side.
00:01:39.400 And someone sent me an email reminding me on how Ryan Reynolds
00:01:42.720 sent a long apology letter to Colleen Hoover the day after the premiere of It Ends With Us
00:01:49.420 saying that he was so sorry that he didn't have the time to talk to her on the premiere.
00:01:55.040 And it all makes sense now.
00:01:57.680 And let's also talk about why the movie stars are disappearing from Cannes Film Festival.
00:02:01.540 And one of the movie stars, who was supposed to be a judge right now,
00:02:05.720 Jacob O'Lordi, apparently broke his foot and couldn't make it.
00:02:10.720 But now there's pictures everywhere of him and Kendall Jenner in Hawaii on vacation.
00:02:16.460 Yeah, definitely not a good look for him.
00:02:18.580 Okay, so let's get into it.
00:02:20.320 Brian Reynolds just reposted something from Marina Baccarin on his Instagram.
00:02:26.340 The actress who played his girlfriend in the Deadpool movies
00:02:30.560 just shared this nostalgia from the movie set,
00:02:34.920 saying it was eight years ago today that they did this shoot.
00:02:39.100 And Ryan Reynolds reposted it.
00:02:41.480 As you know, there are so many rumors that Ryan was avoiding Marina
00:02:46.240 at the red carpet of the Deadpool movie and so many people were speculating if something had
00:02:51.940 happened there and why he was shading her like that. And as you know, there were a lot of bad
00:02:57.040 blood between him and TJ Miller as well, also from the Deadpool movies. And for some reason,
00:03:04.300 TJ Miller all of a sudden came out and was like, oh no, Ryan and I, we are friends again. He just
00:03:09.720 called me the other day. So this is what I think is happening right now. Ryan Reynolds came out
00:03:14.860 and started apologizing to these people,
00:03:17.500 saying like, hey, Marina,
00:03:19.280 why don't you publish something about Deadpool right now
00:03:22.760 and I'll repost it and we're good friends again.
00:03:25.460 And you know, I'll do you a favor back if you do that.
00:03:28.100 Because it just doesn't make any sense to me
00:03:29.880 that she's coming out now praising Ryan Reynolds.
00:03:32.340 What do you think?
00:03:33.160 Do you think Ryan is calling up all these people
00:03:35.140 that he rubbed the wrong way?
00:03:36.880 Anyways, also in the meantime,
00:03:38.760 Blake Lively is now posting about pizza,
00:03:41.660 about this pizza place in New York that she really loves.
00:03:44.600 As I said yesterday, all these small businesses are now terrified that Blake Lively is going to 0.77
00:03:49.300 tag their business in any of her Instagram posts or stories. Because as you know, Blake Lively is
00:03:55.760 bad for business. I also found it very interesting that she keeps posting about pizza, and yesterday
00:04:01.520 it was about donuts, all these really unhealthy foods. When we know that she made such a big deal
00:04:06.880 about being fat shamed by Justin Baldoni, and now she's sharing with everyone all the unhealthy 1.00
00:04:12.900 food she's eating. Anyways, I guess she can eat as many pizzas and donuts as she wants in the 0.97
00:04:18.460 forthcoming future because she's not going to prepare for any movie parts anytime soon. Okay,
00:04:23.920 so let's look at this post on LinkedIn that Blake Lively's attorneys apparently just deleted. This
00:04:30.240 was really funny. Thank you, Desi, again for being such an investigative journalist here. So she sent
00:04:36.740 me the post that Manat Phelps and Phillips published on their LinkedIn a few days ago. I
00:04:43.000 think I spoke about this just late last week. And it said, a Manat team led by Ezra Hudson
00:04:49.100 secured a favorable settlement for Blake Lively in her case against Justin Baldoni and Wayfair
00:04:55.880 Studios. This marks another critically important step in Ms. Lively's pursuit of justice after
00:05:01.780 raising concerns about inappropriate behavior during production of It Ends With Us and the 0.76
00:05:07.320 subsequent retaliation campaign levied against her. Then they have a picture of Ezra Hudson here
00:05:14.080 and a little quote from her saying, from day one, Blake Lively's mission was clear,
00:05:18.380 expose and hold accountable those who weaponize smear campaigns and retaliatory lawsuits to
00:05:23.980 intimidate and silence survivors. That mission continues. Anyways, this was their post and it's
00:05:31.620 gone. Isn't that funny? After I reported on this post, I don't know if people went over there and
00:05:37.980 started commenting on it and they were like, maybe we should just review this. Anyways, it's gone now.
00:05:42.640 I forwarded it to Brian Friedman as well, who thought obviously that this was really insane.
00:05:48.120 So yes, I guess Manat is not so proud of this victory anymore. Or maybe they just embarrassed
00:05:53.700 that they were caught in lying. Talking about deleted posts, as I spoke about the other day as
00:05:58.460 well. All the other co-stars of Blake Lively have deleted every single post with her and about It
00:06:06.760 Ends With Us. Brandon Sklenar deleted his entire Instagram, something Colleen Hoover also did.
00:06:11.880 She just went off Instagram, but that was in the middle of the drama. Now she's back, as you know,
00:06:16.940 but no posts of Blake Lively. And the same goes for Brandon Sklenar. But just a reminder to
00:06:22.800 everyone what brandon actually said in his initial post when he's he was supporting blake lively he
00:06:29.540 went on and on about how you should support women and blah blah blah and then at the end of this
00:06:33.220 post he said all i ask is that before you spread hate on the internet ask yourself who it's helping
00:06:38.680 ask yourself if your opinions are based in any facts i love how this all look so terrible right
00:06:47.600 now. Or if you simply want to be part of something, let's be part of something better together, he
00:06:53.480 suggests. A part of a new story being written for women and all people everywhere. Lead with love
00:07:01.460 and please be kind. Yeah, I mean, talk about aging badly. And then he also attached the complaint
00:07:09.580 and the New York Times article and they said, for the love of God, read this. And then he tagged
00:07:16.480 Blake Lively with a heart. I haven't seen many hearts from Brandon Sclinart to Blake Lively
00:07:23.000 lately. I really wonder if any of these people are in contact. And we all remember how America
00:07:28.900 Ferrara also came out to support Blake Lively. She actually still has that post up on her Instagram
00:07:36.380 and it says, as Blake's friend and sisters for over 20 years, we stand with her in solidarity
00:07:42.880 as she fights back against the reported campaign
00:07:46.580 waged to destroy her reputation.
00:07:49.300 Throughout the filming of It Ends With Us, 0.74
00:07:50.860 we saw her summon the courage to ask for a safe workplace
00:07:54.180 for herself and colleagues on set.
00:07:56.700 And we are appalled to read the evidence
00:08:00.000 of a premeditated and vindictive effort
00:08:02.780 that ensured to discredit her voice. 0.89
00:08:06.740 Most upsetting is the unbashed exploitation
00:08:09.680 of DV survivor stories to silence a woman who asked for safety. The hypocrisy is astounding,
00:08:18.140 she said. Talk about hypocrisy. I think America Ferrara should come out and apologize publicly 0.96
00:08:26.040 for standing by Blake Lively. I was looking at her Instagram and it's flooded with justice for
00:08:33.000 Justin and people saying, you know, come out and apologize. It is okay to make a mistake,
00:08:38.120 But if you do, you have to own up to your mistake.
00:08:41.700 And in this case, a lot of people were fooled.
00:08:44.660 And a lot of people believed Blake Lively.
00:08:46.900 I know so many people out there who read that New York Times article who believed her.
00:08:52.140 And you can't blame them for that.
00:08:53.900 Because as you know, she manipulated the truth so much.
00:08:57.360 So it made it sound believable.
00:08:59.220 And because a very respected newspaper at the time wrote the piece, people ate it up.
00:09:05.940 But it's not too late to apologize.
00:09:08.120 And I hope America Ferrara is going to do that.
00:09:11.060 Anyways, let's look into this People Magazine article.
00:09:13.320 This is so funny.
00:09:14.360 Of course, it mentions that Blake Lively got zero money from this settlement.
00:09:19.460 But the excuse for her settling later in the case made me just laugh so hard.
00:09:25.300 Just listen to this.
00:09:26.260 So it says here that the Wafers lawyers say Blake Lively didn't get a cent of a 300 million
00:09:31.480 sought prior to settlement.
00:09:33.800 A filing confirmed Lively received no settlement payout, but a judge must decide
00:09:38.000 whether she can recover fees or damages under California anti-retaliation law. So the fact that
00:09:43.000 this has become public knowledge must really infuriate Blake Lively's attorneys. I'm sure
00:09:49.260 they fought really hard to keep this part of the settlement secret. As you know, Blake was really
00:09:55.460 fighting for an NDA for Justin and everyone involved, but they did not agree to that. They
00:10:00.380 said, no way, we're going to come out with our truth here. But the fact that it's also been
00:10:05.280 leak that they got zero cents or zero dollars must be really devastating for them because that proves
00:10:13.200 everything. That just proves everything about Blake Lively's case that it was all based on
00:10:19.120 Blake and Ryan's egos, greed and feelings. So here's a source who told People Magazine something
00:10:26.180 really interesting. They say that for Blake Lively this was never about money. Okay we already heard
00:10:31.860 she said that. It was about exposing bad actors who are also harming others. So now it's not about
00:10:39.680 Blake anymore, it's about others. She didn't settle her claims until the documents exposing the bad
00:10:47.640 actors behind smear campaigns were made public. Documents that have led to other lawsuits and
00:10:54.260 investigations, the source added. With this motion, she is breathing life into a groundbreaking
00:11:01.560 statute designed to protect survivors from retaliatory lawsuits. Isn't that noble? She
00:11:09.660 spends millions and millions and millions of dollars for other people to not experience 0.54
00:11:16.540 smear campaigns or underground untraceable smear machines, as her lawyer put it. So that is why
00:11:24.620 this is a victory for Blake. It's not because she got anything out of it, except maybe some
00:11:29.960 attorney's fees if she will ever get that, but it is because she is helping other people. This is
00:11:37.240 all they got. They found out, as you know, that some of the same actors that Justin Baldoni hired
00:11:44.860 were also hired by other celebrities who also are involved in lawsuits but the fact is that
00:11:52.580 Blake Lively could never point to one single article or anything any lies that were spread
00:11:59.580 about her online and there wasn't any smear website about her and the other cases that are
00:12:06.940 insinuating that these people are involved in smearing someone there was a smear website and
00:12:13.240 that's what it's all about, smear websites. There was no smear website against Blake but apparently
00:12:21.100 that doesn't matter for Blake because she feels that what she did was for the greater good
00:12:26.880 and that's why she was happy to spend about 50 million dollars on this lawsuit. Imagine how much
00:12:34.540 good she could have done with that money to actually help real victims instead of spending 1.00
00:12:39.340 them and giving them to attorneys. Also, they added here that by agreeing to the settlement 0.94
00:12:44.420 and waiving their right to appeal, Baldoni and every individual defendant now face personal
00:12:49.540 liability for abusing the legal system to silence and intimidate Ms. Lively, her attorney said in
00:12:55.780 a statement. Yeah, but as you know, Blake Lively also waived her rights to appeals. That's what 0.99
00:13:01.100 you do in a settlement. You waive the rights to appeal to finish something off. And by finding a
00:13:08.020 sneaky backdoor to keep fighting instead? What does that really say about Blake? And what does
00:13:13.480 it say about these attorneys? I mean, it's insane. Anyways, as I said, there are some new text
00:13:18.760 messages that have been unsealed between Blake Lively and Colleen Hoover. These were in the
00:13:24.140 same lump of unsealed documents as the one I mentioned the other day with Jenny Slate,
00:13:28.540 between Jenny Slate and Blake Lively. And these ones tells us a lot about what was going on
00:13:33.640 behind the scenes. It made me think about these text messages when I received this email from
00:13:38.000 Mary Kate. Thank you so much for sending me this. She said, I was thinking about the Colleen Hoover
00:13:42.800 of it all and the text between Jenny and Blake kind of undermining her. Well, that made me think
00:13:48.580 of and go back to Ryan's email to Colleen after the premiere where he says, holy F, you did it,
00:13:55.480 etc. I read up that text message a long time ago. Ryan's text messages are so long, so I'm not
00:14:01.580 gonna repeat that but anyways he was just like oh you're the best blah blah blah and then she
00:14:07.020 continues here to say and apologizes for not talking to her at the premiere due to chatting
00:14:11.520 with the other executives i think he totally snubbed her on that night i wouldn't be surprised
00:14:16.940 if she didn't get much attention from blake either i think they had already conquered her
00:14:21.920 didn't need her anymore and were on the next people they needed to schmooze and love bump
00:14:27.420 I don't think he even called her, he just emailed her.
00:14:30.460 Does that add a bit more to the puzzle about how they really feel about Colleen?
00:14:35.420 Yes, I think you are right.
00:14:38.480 So here is a text exchange between Blake and Colleen.
00:14:41.440 This is from May 21st, or May 20th to May 21st, between the two of them,
00:14:46.620 when Blake Lively is in this bake-off with Justin Baldoni about the edit of the movie.
00:14:51.980 So the two of them are going back and forth about changing up some scenes.
00:14:56.380 and Colleen Hoover has a lot of ideas
00:14:58.580 and Blake is kind of shutting her down
00:15:00.800 saying, yeah, that wouldn't really work
00:15:02.500 because of this and that
00:15:03.540 because Colleen is saying that
00:15:04.840 I think this pause is really important
00:15:06.920 blah, blah, blah
00:15:08.000 then she says, I'm sorry
00:15:09.280 it's not very interesting
00:15:10.580 all these suggestions that she has
00:15:12.280 and then she says to Blake
00:15:13.360 then the very next scene
00:15:14.460 she's asking Ryle if he's happy
00:15:16.740 and we know she's sort of kind of thinking
00:15:19.460 what if
00:15:20.480 and it makes that scene with Ryle hurt even more
00:15:24.140 and then Blake says
00:15:25.340 smart I'll try it my only concern is I haven't married Ryle yet interesting she says I haven't
00:15:31.340 married Ryle yet talking about herself as Lily which makes me believe that she actually think
00:15:38.040 Justin is Ryle herself as I said a lot of pro Blake Lively supporters believe I think that
00:15:43.900 Justin is actually Ryle and maybe Blake also believes that it seems like it here she says
00:15:48.740 I haven't married Ryle yet that's two scenes away Blake is saying so I'm nervous to take
00:15:55.100 away any reasons why she may not dump Ryle for him and Ryle has already abused her oh you're
00:16:01.460 right says Colleen I was thinking this was right after the wedding but Elisa was a red dress
00:16:06.760 pregnant yeah it's so interesting because as you know Colleen had never made a movie before this
00:16:12.580 one and she said so many times that it was such an interesting experience for her because she
00:16:17.540 didn't know really how to make a movie and that makes it even more interesting that she was trying
00:16:22.580 to change things in the script and as you know she sold the rights to this movie to the wayfair
00:16:28.000 parties so when an author sells the rights to a book they sell the right to have an opinion about
00:16:34.660 it most of the time people don't want them to get involved more because it just makes more mess like
00:16:39.420 you can see here and then of course Blake is acting like the screenwriter and director here
00:16:44.060 to her saying yeah that would work no that wouldn't work so then she shuts down this idea
00:16:48.500 and then she says but I do like when she when he was unpacking the food that's smart Blake says
00:16:53.980 she wants to keep some of Colleen's ideas in here to make her happy and then she says and we'll also
00:16:59.700 try the truck again but take my own pass at it I just tweak theirs so she keeps changing things
00:17:06.280 and as you know Sony asked her to change things back most of the things that Blake added to this
00:17:11.260 movie was changed back by Sony and it ended up being more or less just Justin's version that
00:17:16.180 was shown. And then Colleen Lovebombs Blake saying last week when you said you love and are obsessed
00:17:21.420 with work I got really jealous because I used to feel that passion for writing. I get up early and
00:17:27.100 stay up late and never sleep and my kids were your kids ages yet I'd still somehow power through and 0.94
00:17:33.380 get shit done. But this past week has been so much fun working on notes and thinking about the movie
00:17:38.480 and being excited for it all over again and not sleeping. I miss this and now I'm wondering if
00:17:43.740 If it's a result of me like I lost input in the one book I wrote, that means something to me.
00:17:48.840 So thank you for helping me get that back.
00:17:51.000 I know nothing about film, but it's been exciting learning.
00:17:54.520 Even when I give you notes that can't work, you've been so good in explaining why I'm not soaking it all in.
00:18:01.180 Yes, Colleen is really grateful for Blake Lively's input here and for her to allow her to have opinions as well.
00:18:09.300 As you know, she complained to Justin and the Wayfair parties for not listening to her enough
00:18:13.840 as well. And then Blake responds with this. She says, this text honestly made my week. This job
00:18:19.980 has been the hardest of my life for more reasons than I can articulate. All I had was the work.
00:18:27.180 That was it. So I became possessed. Yes, you could say that. I couldn't want any validation
00:18:33.120 of my feelings or experience. That wasn't realistic because it would involve me having
00:18:38.540 to share and in that maybe mess up someone else's experience but slowly I watched the people around
00:18:45.680 me unfortunately have similar experiences but it still felt like everyone at the top level
00:18:51.700 had their heads down so after she allowed Colleen Hoover to have input in the script she's sharing
00:18:58.120 how hard this experience has been for her being on this toxic set and she felt so alone but then
00:19:04.440 she wasn't alone because so many other people felt exactly the same way. And then she added,
00:19:09.720 but it still feels like everyone on the top level had their heads down. They didn't want to get
00:19:13.820 involved. She's talking about Sony here. It was too big to touch until Josh came along. Josh
00:19:20.280 Greenstein was helping out Blake Wiley, as you know, but it was still just him trusting me to
00:19:26.940 be on the right side of this thing. And then you showed up. Here we go. And I use the word showed
00:19:33.160 up because you didn't just email me you showed up capital letters literally physically emotionally
00:19:42.100 creatively and like a big gold plot twist at the happy ending of this hellscape so thank you
00:19:49.640 yours is the only opinion I care about in this film because you're the author but also because
00:19:56.220 you know your audience better than anyone I know your value and I feel you know mine
00:20:01.940 ultimately we all do our best when we feel seen so thank you for this note for showing up for the
00:20:11.000 gift of this story it's been life-changing for worse and now finally it's starting to feel like
00:20:16.640 for better well say that again Blake and then of course Colleen Hoover's love all of these things
00:20:23.380 that Blake Lively said I remember listening to another creator I don't remember who it was who
00:20:27.640 talked about the relationship between Blake and Colleen, saying that Blake was always the cool
00:20:32.500 girl at school. Someone that Colleen probably looked up to and could never hang around because
00:20:37.840 she wasn't one of the cool girls at school. And I feel that's quite spot on here. How Colleen is
00:20:43.380 letting herself be manipulated by Blake. And now finally, she can hang out with a cool girl that
00:20:50.020 she couldn't hang out with in high school. So yeah, back to what Mary-Kate said. I agree with
00:20:55.140 you i think as soon as blake and ryan were done with colleen they were like okay now we can just
00:20:59.780 leave her out there until we need her next time now let's move on to the next people that we can
00:21:04.700 love bomb and manipulate anyways as i mentioned in the beginning of this episode there's also
00:21:09.280 other stuff going on in the world right now there is the can film festival it's just around the
00:21:14.080 corner from me or kind of because i'm in spain and it is in france but this year has been a lot
00:21:20.080 talk about all the Hollywood celebrities that are not showing up and this is quite interesting so
00:21:26.040 it appears that a lot of the big American studios are afraid or worried to premiere the movies at
00:21:32.840 Cannes Film Festival because if they flop if they don't get that 15 minute standing ovation
00:21:39.620 and if people online starts talking it could really ruin the chances of the movie given a
00:21:46.680 chance even at the award season as you know award season is supposed to start in like september
00:21:52.360 it starts off with venice film festival and toronto film festival and then the whole fall
00:21:57.720 it's all this campaigning going on for all these people and movies who wants to receive an oscar
00:22:02.560 and can film festival is mainly seen more as a prestige film festival but now the big film
00:22:09.080 studios are checking it out and basically that is because they know the power of social media
00:22:13.520 They know the power of the public now.
00:22:15.520 Before, they used to invite only journalists to these events,
00:22:18.760 and they had these press conferences, and everything was kind of controlled.
00:22:22.960 But now, when you have influencers everywhere, people reporting online about things,
00:22:28.120 they are worried that it's going to kill the movie before it even gets a chance.
00:22:31.800 So this year, there are not a lot of movie stars present at the Cannes Film Festival.
00:22:38.020 Interestingly enough, Jacob Elordi was invited to be a jury member.
00:22:42.960 alongside Demi Moore and others.
00:22:45.860 I've seen a lot of Demi Moore from the red carpet in Cannes.
00:22:49.040 It seems like she's the only celebrity there somehow.
00:22:51.960 But Jacob Elordi was supposed to go
00:22:53.780 and then he said that he had broken his foot.
00:22:56.740 But today there are some new pictures of him
00:22:59.260 with Kendall Jenner in Hawaii on the beach drinking rosé.
00:23:05.000 Not a very good look for the actor.
00:23:07.860 As you know, his stardom just took off.
00:23:10.460 Earlier this year, he was nominated for an Oscar
00:23:12.520 for his performance in Frankenstein and he was all over the internet when he was promoting
00:23:17.080 Wuthering Heights with Margot Robbie but now he's followed his fellow Oscar nominee Timothy
00:23:22.960 Chalamet's footsteps by starting to date a Jenner or Kardashian. So many people think this is not a
00:23:30.920 good look for him to even be dating a Kardashian but I guess you can't really choose who you fall
00:23:35.500 in love with and a lot of people have problems or issues with these girls but the fact that he
00:23:39.720 didn't show up at Cannes as a jury member, which should be such an honor for you if you are in the
00:23:45.480 industry, and instead went to Hawaii with Kendall Jenner. And as this article in the Daily Mail
00:23:51.480 pointed out, his leg was not in a cast and he was even driving a car. So I don't know if he made up
00:23:58.320 that thing about his foot, but it says here that karma will come fast. So I guess we have to see
00:24:04.300 what excuse he can come up with for all of a sudden not having a broken foot anymore. Anyway,
00:24:09.720 that's it for me you guys thank you so much for watching i really appreciate all your support and
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