Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - July 22, 2026


Deadpool Creator's Heartbroken Message !!


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00:00:00.000 It was meant to embarrass, diminish, defeat.
00:00:05.700 Mostly, I think, embarrass me.
00:00:11.960 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Sashdi Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:16.580 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:21.620 Okay, so it's been confirmed.
00:00:24.160 Scarlett Johansson's Ryan Reynolds ex-wife was at Taylor Swift's wedding. Also, did Ryan Reynolds
00:00:32.740 give the same treatment to the creator of Deadpool as Blake Lively gave Justin Baldoni for the
00:00:40.120 premiere of It Ends With Us when she sent him down to the basement? These two incidents happened
00:00:46.320 only two weeks apart. Yeah, let's listen to the audio from Rob Liefeld after he was denied access
00:00:54.700 to the after party of the movie for the character that he created. And there is some interesting
00:01:02.340 news here in the Rebel Wilson case. You might remember that Blake Lively's legal team pointed
00:01:08.740 at rebel wilson as an example of another smear machine in hollywood well that example just took
00:01:17.140 a major hit a judge in australia just ruled that rebel wilson is innocent of defaming the main
00:01:25.080 actress of her movie let's look into what's happening there this is a crazy story anyways
00:01:33.140 please again excuse my appearance. This dye is not going anywhere soon. I am fighting with it
00:01:40.260 every day and my eye is really painful and looks a little weird. So please just look at Oscar or
00:01:47.480 this eye in this episode as well. Okay, so let's get into it. So this Reddit post really caught my
00:01:54.360 attention this morning because this audio from Rob Liefeld, the creator of Deadpool, explains a
00:02:01.980 very similar pattern as what happened to Justin Baldoni. So a little background, Rob Liefeld is
00:02:10.560 the creator of Deadpool. He's been credited in all the movies but he has publicly said several times
00:02:18.780 that he doesn't think that Marvel appreciates the creators enough, that he doesn't get enough
00:02:25.360 credit for all the work he has done. There are no reports that I could find at this time if there
00:02:31.460 were any like specific incidents that happened that made Marvel or Disney or Fox who did the
00:02:38.940 first Deadpool movie that he had any fallout with anyone I could not find any specific incidents of
00:02:45.580 why they would not welcome him at an after party for Deadpool versus Wolverine in 2024. As you know
00:02:53.600 that Deadpool movie premiered just two weeks before it ends with us and as you know Blake
00:03:00.680 lily put Justin Baldoni and his family and all his friends and loved ones in the basements of
00:03:08.120 the premiere of his own movie and as someone already pointed out it is very similar to what
00:03:15.320 happened to Rob Liefeld during the premiere of Deadpool vs Wolverine. This audio that someone
00:03:23.140 posted is from his own podcast and they also added in the audio from the voice memo that Justin
00:03:30.200 Baldoni sent to someone after the premiere explaining how he was put in the basement.
00:03:36.860 Yeah, just listen to this for a minute.
00:03:38.700 Message was sent. You cannot attend the celebration of this film in New York City.
00:03:47.120 It was meant to embarrass, diminish, defeat. Mostly, I think, embarrass me. And
00:03:55.300 that's not how it works that just gives me more fuel i'm like are i i literally was like are you
00:04:01.060 really giving me this story think about this on what you know could have been one of the most
00:04:07.600 beautiful nights of my life career-wise i literally was sent to the basement with my whole all my
00:04:14.940 friends and family for over an hour because uh i i wasn't allowed to be seen she didn't want me
00:04:22.300 anywhere near her or the rest of the cast so they ushered me off the carpet and they sent us down
00:04:28.160 to the basement we were down there together my friends and family the people that love me the
00:04:34.360 most and they start laughing because of the ridiculousness of this whole thing
00:04:40.800 i realized like on a night that was supposed to be so materialistically joyful
00:04:49.420 I was in the basement and my publicist said I just don't understand why Rob and his family is
00:04:57.120 not able to attend this after party celebrating this movie because he created Deadpool and he
00:05:02.260 was just credited at the end of the movie he he has an official credit and she says I'll see what
00:05:08.400 I can do why don't you head on over to the party all of you just make your way over there and I'll
00:05:14.800 meet you there and and and i'm sure we can figure this out and paul said no no no no i can't put my
00:05:20.880 client in an embarrassing situation and i understood what he was saying that that's not
00:05:27.720 going to happen we're going to we're going to stay put and let let's uh i'll wait for you she
00:05:33.640 says well i'm heading over there now so i'll call you and paul has her and she puts her on speaker
00:05:39.260 and the head of disney publicity says uh look i have some tough news uh it's a no rob and his
00:05:46.740 family cannot attend the party and my suggestion for you is to make other plans and have a great
00:05:52.580 night and let me tell you something this lady you know when somebody is giving you news that they
00:05:57.720 don't want to tell you and that they're slightly embarrassed to communicate with you and that they
00:06:01.380 know that they feel in their gut it's not the right and this was one of those times yes why
00:06:07.520 was Rob not invited to the after party? I've been to a lot of premiere after parties. They invite
00:06:15.040 usually like a thousand people at these after parties, especially if it is a big movie premiere
00:06:20.840 like Deadpool versus Wolverine. Of course, there was enough space for the creator of the character
00:06:28.140 to bring his family to this premiere party he was invited to watch the movie and he also appeared on
00:06:38.160 the red carpet but for some reason he was even edited out of the photos from the red carpet
00:06:43.720 why would anyone do that as i said there's no specific incidence of any feud that rob had with
00:06:52.780 marvel. I have to say he never went after Ryan Reynolds but as we learned from watching what
00:06:58.700 happened to Justin Baldoni during the premiere of It Ends With Us we know that Ryan Reynolds
00:07:04.900 works behind the scenes. No one knew how involved he was in shading Justin Baldoni before we
00:07:11.600 actually saw the text messages and emails that he had sent to different people. So to me this
00:07:17.840 obviously looks like something Ryan Reynolds would do. I have no evidence that he's the one
00:07:23.440 behind this, but looking at these two separate cases only two weeks apart, don't you think that
00:07:29.640 is a big possibility? So this story was published in Variety in February of last year, saying that
00:07:37.080 Deadpool creator Rob Liefeld vows to cut ties with Marvel after Deadpool and Wolverine premiere
00:07:43.580 issues i mean one thing is to say that we don't want to work with you anymore but to say that
00:07:49.000 you can't come to the party that is so petty and i just find it really hard to believe again that
00:07:55.960 marvel would do something like that and i say here beyond the credits deadpool and wolverine
00:08:01.740 acknowledge liefield in a key scene in which the titular character battled dozens of deadpool
00:08:07.760 variants in front of a store called Liefeld's Just Feet. It's a nod to a long-running joke about
00:08:16.220 the author's perceived inability to draw feets. So Rob has actually talked about this, how he
00:08:23.020 allowed this joke to be in the movie, where Ryan Reynolds called him up and suggested this joke
00:08:29.880 because he's known for not being able to draw feet very well. Of course, Ryan wanted to mock that
00:08:36.580 because he loves mocking other people but at the time Lee Feld said that he thought that this was
00:08:41.640 a great honor that they would actually mock him in the movie so he was mocked in the movie he was
00:08:47.100 credited at the end credits but he couldn't come to the after party here is a comment on reddit
00:08:52.600 worth noting saying you know by now we're all very familiar with the Reynolds brand of punishment
00:08:58.760 vengeance and rug pull it's somehow both juvenile and childish for goodness sake they even had their
00:09:07.200 publicist delete photos of rob with talent who does that the same people who orchestrated the
00:09:15.020 mass unfollow of of justin someone else commented rob wanted a created by credit in the movie
00:09:21.340 that's probably the biggest thing ever in reynolds book because he wanted to have the first writing
00:09:26.940 credits and someone else mentioned that they did the same with justin remember all those text
00:09:31.640 messages from blake as well and ryan mentioned as well that what a big eagle justin must have
00:09:38.240 because he wanted a film buy on the movie poster for it ends with us and they said that is the
00:09:44.340 most narcissistic thing ever and i also showed a clip i was trying to find it this morning but i
00:09:49.320 couldn't find it again where ryan reynolds was commenting for sky news on a wrexham sport event
00:09:54.900 when his soccer team was playing and he said oh this is all about teamwork just as when you make
00:10:00.220 a movie if someone just wants to put a film by that is just so selfish because it's a teamwork
00:10:07.900 just like soccer he had to just put that in there so I also feel that that connects the dot in this
00:10:13.880 story with Rob Liefeld I have a theory about both Blake and Ryan that they never come up with any
00:10:21.380 ideas themselves. They just steal other people's ideas and when they get caught in stealing other
00:10:28.000 people's ideas they can't handle it and then they just punish the people that they stole the idea
00:10:34.120 from or punish the people that they stole the work from. Anyways as I mentioned yesterday there
00:10:39.680 was a video on social media from Fantastic Fest where Ryan Reynolds was on a stage this weekend
00:10:45.640 saying that there will be another Deadpool movie. So the Hollywood Reporter picks this up and made
00:10:51.000 a big headline about it, Ryan Reynolds confirms another Deadpool movie. The film would follow
00:10:57.020 the 2024 Deadpool and Wolverine, which became the top-crossing R-rated movie of all time.
00:11:03.600 They're saying here it looks like Ryan Reynolds will put on the Deadpool suit again. And then
00:11:07.920 they said the Hollywood Reporter has reached out to Marvel for comments. No comment back from Marvel.
00:11:14.840 I have a feeling that this is just a stunt as I said yesterday from Ryan Reynolds to get people
00:11:21.220 to get excited about the Deadpool movie again so that they will forget about all this other drama
00:11:25.960 and as someone pointed out on social media you can't say that there is another Deadpool in the
00:11:32.080 works if you have no screenplay if you have no director attached to it no one is attached to
00:11:38.040 this project yet he just threw it out there to divert everyone's attention and I don't believe
00:11:43.040 for a second that Ryan actually run this by Marvel Studios. Anyways, as I said in the beginning of
00:11:50.660 this episode, Scarlett Johansson, Ryan Reynolds' ex-wife, was invited to Taylor Swift's wedding.
00:11:59.920 Another dig at Blake Lively, obviously from Taylor Swift. So, as you know, Ryan was married
00:12:07.100 it to Scarlett Johansson when he met Blake Lively. They didn't start officially dating until he was
00:12:13.980 divorced, but we all know that the two of them met while they were shooting the Green Lantern,
00:12:19.480 and there's so much footage from press junkets going on when they were promoting that awful
00:12:24.440 movie together, and everyone could see what was going on between the two of them. Their official
00:12:29.500 story is that someone set up a date, a double date, and then they were like, oh, we like each
00:12:34.780 other yeah anyways so there are no photos of Scarlett Johansson at this wedding but we know
00:12:43.260 that Taylor Swift's husband Travis Kelsey had Colleen Jost Scarlett Johansson's husband on his
00:12:50.680 podcast not too long ago they were discussing amongst other things what it was like to be with
00:12:56.060 someone that was more famous than them but anyways this information comes from former tennis player
00:13:01.280 Jack Sock so he said here according to Yahoo amongst other things he said I guess it was just
00:13:08.080 one of the hallways they had with the cocktail hour and there it was just because you're kind
00:13:13.620 of shoulder to shoulder with everybody Jessica Alba, Scarlett Johansson, Charlize Theron, Brad
00:13:20.640 Pitt you just like you go down the road and you're standing right here like waiting so yes
00:13:26.800 on top of that as you know the Wayfair parties did a project with Scarlett Johansson her directorial
00:13:34.440 debut Eleanor the Great and we even have audio where Steve Sarowitz the founder and the backer
00:13:42.300 financial backer of Wayfair Studios said this about Scarlett Johansson he described her as
00:13:49.900 classy professional nice smart confident and wonderful in contrast with Blake Lively who is
00:13:56.860 different that's the only bad thing he ever said about Blake Lively she's different so yeah let me
00:14:03.700 know what you think do you think Taylor Swift invited Scarlett Johansson to her wedding just
00:14:08.140 to take another dig at Blake anyway since I went down the rabbit hole on reddit I also found this
00:14:13.480 comment here so just to confirm this person says Ryan Reynolds was once again a no-show for his
00:14:18.960 wife's recent public football outing. He has been absent entirely for every public appearance she
00:14:26.540 has made for months. Are we in agreement that he obviously can't stand her company? No show at her
00:14:33.080 court appearance at the beginning of the year, no show at the Met Gala, no show at the Fendi event.
00:14:38.940 The only time Ryan Reynolds has been photographed with his wife is in a grainy staged pap photo
00:14:44.800 where he looked like a hostage anything that involves publicly being in her company for an
00:14:50.840 extended period of time and he is a no-show this is not normal i don't care many people keep trying
00:14:57.480 to pretend this is normal it is not normal i believe the reason they haven't made a public
00:15:02.140 joint statement like emily and justin is because ryan has refused my theory is that they're no
00:15:07.640 longer together and are waiting till everything has blown over to announce their divorce also
00:15:13.300 looking forward to some kind of stage pap walk Instagram story in response to this post because
00:15:18.800 that would be on form this person says. I agree every time these divorce rumors are resurfacing
00:15:26.400 we get either a stage paparazzi of the two of them or Blake posts some random old selfie of the two
00:15:33.840 of them together. Anyways let's get into this Rebel Wilson case. This case is nuts. I've talked
00:15:40.960 about it three or four times before i went through all the players in this case it is very absurd
00:15:46.600 everything that has happened and i don't really know where the truth lays here but what just
00:15:52.840 happened is very interesting because a judge in australia just ruled that rebel wilson is innocent
00:16:00.740 of defaming the main actress of her movie the deb so in short what happened on this movie which was
00:16:08.280 Rebel Wilson directorial debut, the main actress of the movie, Charlotte McInnes, according to Rebel
00:16:14.320 Wilson, came to her and complained about the producer of the movie, Amanda Ghost, saying that
00:16:20.860 she had been very inappropriate with her, saying that she invited her into the bathtub to warm her
00:16:27.480 after she was really cold. It was a really weird scenario. And then according to Rebel, she came
00:16:32.800 to her and complained about this and Rebel said that it was her duty to speak up about this. Then
00:16:40.040 also behind the scenes there were a lot of little fights about credits, about writer credits on the
00:16:45.580 movie, about money, a lot of tension let's put it that way. Then Charlotte McInnes, this main actress
00:16:51.460 came out and said that I never said that to Rebel Wilson. She made that up. I never said that Amanda
00:16:58.180 the ghost made me feel uncomfortable. Then she sued Rebel Wilson for defamation because Rebel
00:17:04.660 Wilson came out on social media and said that Charlotte McInnes is a liar. Then Charlotte said,
00:17:12.480 no, Rebel Wilson is the liar. And then Charlotte McInnes said, no, Rebel Wilson is the liar. And
00:17:17.680 she has defamed me through all of these social media posts that she has made about this case
00:17:23.840 and about me. And now the judge said Rebel Wilson is not guilty of defamation and Charlotte has to
00:17:33.360 pay Rebel Wilson's attorney's fees. Now they're saying here that Charlotte is going to appeal
00:17:41.380 this. So this just happened in Australia. Now there is another lawsuit here in the US and that
00:17:50.020 is in the middle of discovery right now, it doesn't have a trial date. And that lawsuit
00:17:55.540 is the producer, Amanda Ghost, suing Rebel Wilson also for defamation and for orchestrating
00:18:04.100 a smear campaign against her, particularly creating a website to smear her. And on top
00:18:12.040 of that, to make it even more confusing, Amanda Ghost is claiming that Rebel Wilson hired
00:18:18.400 the same team as Justin Baldoni hired.
00:18:21.720 Reba Wilson hired Melissa Nathan,
00:18:24.060 the crisis PR manager that Justin Baldoni hired,
00:18:27.680 and also Jed Wallace,
00:18:29.980 who Blake Lively accused of being the brain
00:18:33.380 behind this underground smear machine.
00:18:37.360 As I've spoken about here before,
00:18:39.360 the Hollywood Reporter picked all of this up and said,
00:18:42.720 hey, look, there is a big pattern here.
00:18:45.580 There is an underground smear machine
00:18:47.540 going on in hollywood and it's all connected well now it seems like the judge in australia
00:18:54.580 does not agree with that and apparently the lawyer representing charlotte mckinnis
00:19:00.320 is one of australia's highest profile defamation barristers and has won many major media cases
00:19:07.740 so wilson prevailing despite facing such experienced counsel makes the outcome notable
00:19:15.320 There are a lot of things surrounding this case that I find a bit suspicious.
00:19:20.820 If you watch the interview with Rebel Wilson on 60 Minute Australia, you might agree with me.
00:19:28.280 Watching this, it seemed to me that a lot of things that Rebel was saying doesn't really add up.
00:19:34.700 Obviously, I had zero to do with the websites.
00:19:38.740 I don't even know how to create a website.
00:19:41.200 I had nothing to do with what was on it.
00:19:42.880 I read it like a lot of people in the business did but yeah obviously it's categorically false
00:19:49.400 to say that I had anything to do with it. So the publicist in email to a co-worker said so
00:19:56.460 basically Rebel wants one of those sites goes on to say it can be really really harsh Russian
00:20:03.740 oligarchs and making her a madam basically laugh out loud or lol. So that's the allegation that
00:20:10.040 You asked your publicist to set up one of these.
00:20:12.840 It was that my publicist was a woman who worked for my lawyer at the time.
00:20:19.840 Right.
00:20:20.560 Yeah.
00:20:20.760 So did you or your lawyer do this?
00:20:23.240 No, definitely not.
00:20:24.640 So why is your name linked to it?
00:20:26.560 Why does she say Rebel?
00:20:27.620 I have no idea.
00:20:28.460 I don't know whether those texts are real.
00:20:30.440 Yeah, I guess we're going to learn a lot more when this case goes to trial
00:20:35.340 unless they settle before trial in the U.S.
00:20:39.000 Rebel went out on social media today celebrating this big win and also announcing that her next
00:20:46.260 movie Girl Group is going to premiere at Toronto Film Festival in September so it doesn't look like
00:20:52.880 her career has taken a big hit from any of this but I was reading the comments on this article
00:20:59.040 in the Daily Mail and it seems like people are not really on Rebel Wilson's side here. Yeah there's
00:21:05.380 obviously a lot of sketchy stuff going on here and we'll i'm sure we're gonna find out more
00:21:10.200 when we get to maybe summary judgment in this case here in the u.s and some more evidence is
00:21:17.860 going to get released there was an audio file i have to say that jed wallace sent to someone
00:21:24.480 saying that rebel wilson wanted one of those sites so yeah let me know what you think about
00:21:30.280 this did rebel wilson order a smear website to smear the producer of the movie or not anyways
00:21:39.100 that's it for me today you guys thank you so much for watching and thanks again to oscar he is
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