Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - October 01, 2026


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00:00:00.000 Well, now her loyalty towards Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds is gone.
00:00:10.460 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Sashley Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:15.000 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Well, well, well, guess what?
00:00:23.120 Blake Lively fired her publicist, Leslie Sloan.
00:00:28.660 They've been together for over 20 years, and now Blake is like,
00:00:33.820 Hey, Leslie, you're not doing a good job for me anymore. Bye-bye.
00:00:39.040 This news came exclusively from the New York Post yesterday,
00:00:43.560 and it was confirmed by three sources.
00:00:47.360 I'm guessing there were Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, and Ryan Reynolds' mom, maybe?
00:00:52.480 But anyways, let's talk about that and potentially how much dirt Leslie Sloan has on Blake Vively after 20 years. 1.00
00:01:01.460 And if she's angry enough to start licking stuff.
00:01:04.360 In the meantime, Ryan Reynolds got Salma Hayek to follow his favorite anti-Justin Baldoni conspiracy theorist.
00:01:14.520 Has he completely lost it? And what does he have on Salma Hayek?
00:01:19.880 And let's talk more about the publicists behind the scenes of this endless, it ends with us, legal drama.
00:01:27.140 Now they're all killing each other and we're all just sitting here watching this train wreck in slow motion.
00:01:34.800 We have some new leaked audio that puts this crisis management team in a very, very bad light.
00:01:42.620 Yeah, this is getting super messy.
00:01:45.000 And yesterday, the movie Verity was premiering in New York City.
00:01:49.160 another Colin Hoover adaptation.
00:01:52.700 As we all remember, she also wrote the book It Ends With Us
00:01:55.780 and now she's back on the red carpet with the stars from this movie
00:01:59.180 George Hartnett, Anne Hathaway and Dakota Johnson
00:02:03.000 and she's dishing about all the power she had on this movie 0.94
00:02:06.620 because this time she was a producer 1.00
00:02:09.580 and while Anne Hathaway was bossing everyone around on the red carpet
00:02:13.760 Dakota Johnson was talking to the press about her BFF Taylor Swift 0.52
00:02:19.100 and how amazing it was for her to be in her latest music video.
00:02:23.540 I feel a bit of a deja vu here.
00:02:26.420 Anyways, guess who else showed up at this red carpet?
00:02:30.700 Rebel Wilson.
00:02:33.380 Another one who's been accused of creating a smear campaign at the moment.
00:02:38.380 Yes, can it get any madder than this?
00:02:41.040 Let's get into it.
00:02:42.780 Okay, so when I saw the news yesterday, I have to say I was a bit shocked.
00:02:47.400 But at the same time, I was kind of expecting something like this to happen.
00:02:52.640 So Blake Lively fired her publicist, Leslie Sloan.
00:02:58.640 Leslie Sloan has been by Blake Lively's side for over 20 years.
00:03:03.240 That's over half of her life.
00:03:05.860 Just think about that.
00:03:07.180 And then think about all the things that Leslie Sloan knows about Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds' personal life.
00:03:16.260 and all the other stories that she's been killing over the years for this couple.
00:03:22.060 Well, now her loyalty towards Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds is gone. 0.99
00:03:27.840 And I can only imagine how angry Leslie Sloan is right now 0.96
00:03:33.720 because this story leaked like this. 1.00
00:03:37.460 She's a publicist. 1.00
00:03:39.000 She should be in front of this story. 0.99
00:03:41.460 She's the one who should have informed the press 0.62
00:03:43.580 that they had decided to go separate ways.
00:03:46.880 I'm thinking if that was the deal to begin with,
00:03:49.360 but then Blake didn't keep her word,
00:03:51.660 that is just a wild guess
00:03:53.520 because the way that this information got out there 1.00
00:03:56.920 makes Leslie look bad 0.99
00:03:59.160 and that makes me believe
00:04:01.000 that there is really bad blood here right now.
00:04:04.480 So in 2014, when Leslie left her previous PR company,
00:04:09.700 she brought Blake Lively with her to Vision PR which is still the name of her PR company
00:04:16.200 which was by the way fun fact here financed by Harvey Weinstein. Anyway so there's been a lot
00:04:23.200 of loyalty here and we know that when publicists leave one company to start their own and they
00:04:29.640 bring their clients with them it can create some really bad frictions. Something we saw happen when
00:04:36.260 Justin Baldoni decided to leave Jones Works, Stephanie Jones PR company, and go with his
00:04:43.520 publicist Jennifer Abel when she started her own company. And as we could see, Stephanie Jones was
00:04:50.580 willing to go pretty far to ruin the new business of Jennifer Abel and to punish Justin Baldoni for 0.99
00:04:59.680 leaving her. As you know, she was the one who leaked the text messages from Jennifer Abel's 0.99
00:05:05.920 phone to Blake Lively's team. And then the New York Times cherry-picked them and removed all
00:05:12.020 context and printed them. And Blake used it in her legal documents. Anyways, back to Leslie Sloan
00:05:19.720 here. This article, by the way, said there were three different sources here. And that is so funny
00:05:25.880 when I read that there are several sources saying something these days because after we have read
00:05:32.800 Leslie Sloan's text messages to, amongst other newspapers, the New York Post, she would tell
00:05:41.100 the journalists who wrote the story from the information that she provided them to put in the
00:05:47.960 story that that information came from more than one source, sometimes two sources. And she also
00:05:54.980 said that you should say that it's coming from people in the industry I mean also I believe that
00:06:00.780 Blake did this for optics to blame of course a lot of the bad PR that she has received to blame that
00:06:07.960 on Leslie Sloan saying that hey my publicist gave me really bad advice and I didn't know what to do
00:06:14.300 so I just followed her advice and then the public hated me because now as you know people don't
00:06:20.520 really buy that smear campaign story anymore so now blake has to blame someone else and this time
00:06:27.940 is leslie sloan next time i'm guessing it will be her own lawyers so now i'm really wondering what
00:06:35.760 will be leslie sloan's next move here how will she get on top of this story will she throw blake
00:06:42.740 under the bus in public or will she just stay classy and say hey maybe the other three sources 0.65
00:06:49.760 you have didn't mention that this was a mutual decision because we have some creative differences
00:06:55.040 right now in what Blake's future looks like or she could just start leaking little stories
00:07:01.080 to get back at Blake I'm guessing maybe she'll do both I'm also sure that Blake is upset that
00:07:07.980 she hasn't been invited to a lot of events and things going on right now as you know there's a
00:07:13.600 lot of movie premieres there's a lot of events it's fall she's in New York so many things are
00:07:19.600 happening there and Blake Lively is not showing up at anything and I'm guessing that Leslie Sloan
00:07:25.260 was like hey I can't get you any invites because no brands or no other celebrities want to be
00:07:31.880 associated with you Blake and then Blake was like F you Leslie. We don't know if they had a big
00:07:38.800 fallout during this legal feud or before it even started but I'm sure that this timing is not an
00:07:47.460 accident. It would have looked really bad if she fired her publicist during the legal feud. So they 0.87
00:07:54.600 definitely waited until things had calmed down a little bit. Anyways, I can't wait to see how
00:08:01.220 Leslie responds to this. Let's jump to Ryan Reynolds here, because I was really shocked when 0.92
00:08:07.580 I saw this. So Ryan Reynolds, I've been reporting on this, the Daily Mail reported on this. Ryan
00:08:14.620 Reynolds have been following and liking every single post of this one particular creator on
00:08:20.460 Instagram. This man has made it his mission to make Justin Baldoni look like a predator.
00:08:27.740 Every single post more or less on his Instagram is about Justin Baldoni. And as Alison Boshoff
00:08:35.160 said in this article, it's surprising to see an A-lister of Reynolds' stature stooping to engage
00:08:42.500 with the legal commentary crowd,
00:08:44.920 even more so given that one of his wife's key complaints
00:08:48.000 was that she herself had been the victim 0.84
00:08:50.600 of a retaliatory smear campaign,
00:08:53.160 which she said she was proud to have stood up against.
00:08:57.180 Yes, and then Ryan is actively participating
00:09:01.860 in a smear campaign against Justin Baldoni.
00:09:05.140 And now he got Salma Hayek to join him.
00:09:09.500 I was shocked when I saw Sama Hayek's name on this page.
00:09:15.040 She is following this guy too now.
00:09:18.200 And it's really interesting because last week, I think it's a week ago,
00:09:22.440 I reported on this big event.
00:09:25.820 The event was organized by Sama and her husband, François-Henri Pinot,
00:09:32.620 and his company Kiering which is basically which is the umbrella of all these fabulous fashion
00:09:42.060 houses like Gucci, Saint Laurent, Balenciaga, McQueen and so on and I was mentioning how I
00:09:50.660 thought it was very strange that this event that was in New York City organized by Salma Hayek
00:09:57.700 who has been portrayed as Blake and Ryan's supporter especially since the theme was to
00:10:06.040 protect women against violence and I concluded that this probably means that they are not friends
00:10:13.840 anymore and the fact that she also invited Dakota Johnson who is now as you probably know Taylor
00:10:21.980 Swift's new BFF. So of course, I can imagine Dakota is not a fan of Blake Lively. And then
00:10:29.360 all of a sudden, Salma Hayek shows up with this cryptic support for Blake or for Ryan doing this
00:10:39.440 ridiculous thing of following this guy. She doesn't like any of his posts. She doesn't comment on
00:10:45.140 anything but her name is there next to ryan reynolds on this instagram i wonder if even
00:10:52.520 sama watched any of these reels what this guy is actually up to it is really disturbing but with
00:10:58.400 this stunt i'm wondering what does ryan have on sama because this is really really weird let me
00:11:06.640 know what you think anyways let's get to this premiere in new york city yesterday author
00:11:12.960 Colleen Hoover was there with the cast of this movie I really wish I could have been a fly on
00:11:19.840 the wall during this production as you know I'm not a huge fan of Anne Hathaway and I could see 1.00
00:11:25.540 on the premiere yesterday that she was the boss she was the one controlling the red carpet what 0.92
00:11:31.760 should happen there she was the one who took the microphone in front of the audience before they 1.00
00:11:37.860 started showing the movie and I saw one of the interviews with Colleen Hoover she was talking
00:11:42.540 about how she was a producer on this one i was pretty uh involved i was a producer on it and so
00:11:48.540 they were very collaborative and you know any changes they made um i absolutely agreed with
00:11:54.220 and so i'm just yeah really excited for this one she wasn't a producer on it ends with us she was
00:11:59.720 an executive producer so she didn't really have a lot of power but this time she made sure she
00:12:06.020 was a producer and i don't know if you saw that but i think it's a week ago now that colleen
00:12:10.940 Hoover came out and said she's very open to making a sequel to It Ends With Us but she doesn't own
00:12:18.100 the rights to that movie as you might know Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties bought the rights
00:12:23.860 to that movie as well so that is totally out of Colleen Hoover's control if they want to do that
00:12:31.300 movie they don't even have to involve her at all whatsoever they didn't even have to involve her 0.98
00:12:35.560 or whatsoever in the Rents With Us movie.
00:12:38.180 But anyways, it's so interesting how her perspective
00:12:41.280 of that entire situation has really changed the last year,
00:12:47.200 especially since we saw the text messages
00:12:49.280 between her and Blake Lively, amongst other things,
00:12:53.100 and how she, in her deposition,
00:12:55.420 said that Blake Lively had told her to unfollow Justin Baldoni.
00:12:59.600 And she did it because she was told to do that.
00:13:01.960 Blake Lively denies that in her deposition,
00:13:04.840 saying that she never asked anyone to unfollow Justin.
00:13:09.500 So I guess you could just pick who you believe in that story.
00:13:12.020 But anyways, Colleen Hoover also came out and said that
00:13:14.900 she loved working with all the people in It Ends With Us.
00:13:18.460 She loved working with Justin.
00:13:19.820 She did such a great job.
00:13:21.500 Blake did such a great job and so did Brandon.
00:13:25.160 And everyone was like, what are you talking about?
00:13:28.140 In the meantime, Dakota Johnson was walking around on the red carpet
00:13:31.120 talking about her collaboration with Taylor Swift.
00:13:34.200 Just like Blake Lively did for It Ends With Us, where Taylor Swift had a song.
00:13:39.760 Now Dakota Johnson is her new BFF and she was just in Taylor's latest music video, Patient Zero.
00:13:48.100 It was so special. She's so, we're so close and...
00:13:53.120 I'm honoured. I'm like truly grateful.
00:13:55.900 She's so, she's such a spectacular human and mind and creative and I'm honoured to be working with her
00:14:03.560 and her friend.
00:14:05.640 And when I was looking at photos
00:14:07.060 from the premiere yesterday,
00:14:08.820 this photo of Rebel Wilson showed up
00:14:11.460 and I was like,
00:14:12.400 what was she doing there?
00:14:13.940 She had nothing to do with the movie.
00:14:15.740 And as you might know,
00:14:17.000 Rebel Wilson is in the middle 1.00
00:14:18.800 of a legal mess herself right now. 1.00
00:14:21.800 And she's accused of hiring
00:14:24.740 the same team as Justin Baldoni hired 0.99
00:14:27.960 to allegedly smear Blake Lively.
00:14:30.740 Rebel Wilson hired as well and is being accused of creating a smear campaign against her producer
00:14:40.820 there is some evidence in that case that is pretty damaging if you ask me but Rebel has said
00:14:48.140 many times that she's completely innocent that case has not gone to court yet but there is some
00:14:54.100 evidence from that case that Blake Lively tried to use in her case but anyways I thought it was
00:14:59.200 interesting that rebel wilson showed up i wonder if she talked to colin hoover rebel posted this
00:15:05.460 on her own instagram and in the caption she said thanks amazon mgm studios for having me last night
00:15:12.800 at the verity premiere loved seeing my former co-stars dakota johnson and anne hathaway crush
00:15:20.240 it so it's obvious that rebel wilson is trying to get some support hair from her former co-stars
00:15:26.180 I don't know I don't think anyone is tempted to get involved in anyone else's legal mess
00:15:33.500 and regarding that let's talk about this dirty game that's going on behind the scenes with these
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00:17:05.760 Okay, so let's get back into it.
00:17:07.440 There's been a few interesting articles in The Hollywood Reporter lately.
00:17:11.600 It's pretty obvious to me where these stories are coming from.
00:17:15.640 I mean, they're both trying to support the narrative of Stephanie Jones.
00:17:21.460 Because, as you know, Stephanie Jones used to work for Justin Baldoni, and he left the company, and she took the text messages of Jennifer Abel, blah, blah, blah, that entire story.
00:17:31.640 And now, as you might know, Stephanie Jones is suing her former publicist and Justin Baldoni, the Wayfair Party.
00:17:40.120 She's suing everyone, and she's claiming, amongst other things, that there was a smear campaign against her. 0.64
00:17:46.800 And there were two smear websites that were designed to harm her reputation.
00:17:53.140 And then, voila, all of a sudden, these two articles shows up in The Hollywood Reporter
00:17:58.820 when Stephanie Jones is in the middle of discovery.
00:18:02.640 This one is pretty juicy, and I feel so bad for Justin Baldoni when these stories are coming out.
00:18:09.180 Because I believe that Justin Baldoni never hired crisis PR to harm anyone else.
00:18:15.840 He hired crisis PR to protect himself.
00:18:20.540 And what it looks like now is that some of these crisis PR people are willing to go really
00:18:25.720 far for their clients.
00:18:28.440 The Hollywood Reporter did this story just a few days ago, saying in leaked audio, Hollywood
00:18:34.880 fixer tells billionaire clients of plan to smear fiance.
00:18:40.240 And it says digital fixer, Jed Wallace, I'm sure you heard about him before.
00:18:44.320 he's mentioned a lot of times by Blake Lively as well.
00:18:48.260 A central figure in the unfolding Hollywood smear site scandal
00:18:52.000 speaks to billionaire Leonardo Maria del Vecchio
00:18:56.460 about an apparent campaign against his former fiancée,
00:19:00.540 the Days of Our Lives actress, Jessica Cerfari.
00:19:04.300 And then they have these two audio recordings here
00:19:06.900 that I'm going to play for you.
00:19:08.260 They don't say how they obtained these recordings,
00:19:11.480 so it's obvious to me where they came from.
00:19:14.320 And I'm going to try to make this simple because Stephanie Jones just sued one of her ex-employees
00:19:19.920 who started working for the crisis management team that she's accusing of smearing her.
00:19:27.560 So she sued her on a Tuesday and on a Wednesday, that lawsuit was settled.
00:19:34.580 So that means basically that she got what she wanted.
00:19:37.520 And I believe probably maybe just allegedly that what she got was these audio files.
00:19:44.320 that she thinks that she can use in her case to show the judge like hey look what they did over
00:19:49.540 here they must have done the same thing to me. I don't know if they did that by the way. There is
00:19:55.140 some evidence out there definitely that's pointing in that direction. Anyways let's listen to this one
00:20:01.720 leaked audio file where Jed Wallace is explaining why he's the right person to hire for this gig. 0.96
00:20:09.260 hey listen from fucking world leaders celebrities diplomats high profile individuals i told you 0.98
00:20:19.660 like i'm picking shoes with the fuck i work with right i like you we connected i empathize and i 0.99
00:20:27.380 understand exactly what you're going through there's a much bigger conversation here legacy 0.98
00:20:32.180 family your father's name everyone here your entire world I get it I want you to understand
00:20:39.120 this is our priority we know what we're doing we're finding the perfect outcome you are loved
00:20:45.240 my brother we are on it this will get done yes Jed Wallace means a business for sure and then
00:20:54.500 there is this other audio file and this is the really damaging part because in this audio file
00:21:00.200 Jed Wallace basically explains how the site is up and running and how it's now visible in Google
00:21:08.420 search. Yes, it is now fully indexed. It is now recognized by Google as a legacy site. So it'll
00:21:18.300 start climbing the charts, which is fucking spectacular. The other piece of it is it's 0.97
00:21:25.760 already starting to surface on reddit um and this just in through one of the contact us
00:21:33.000 being near quotes contact us portals on the actual page we already have somebody that saw her
00:21:39.980 on the boat on the yacht sorry on the yacht that night and um i think they actually saw her
00:21:49.320 like flirting and dancing with somebody early obviously you weren't around so wow is it going 0.99
00:21:55.040 They get fucking nasty for this girl. 0.96
00:21:57.940 Yeah, this doesn't look good for Jed Bollas. 0.99
00:22:00.420 And it doesn't look good for PR.
00:22:03.480 It doesn't look good for that entire industry, for publicists, for crisis PR.
00:22:09.560 And then there was another story magically appearing in The Hollywood Reporter just a week ago as well,
00:22:16.400 saying that top Hollywood publicists alleged to have hid evidence about role in celebrity smear sites.
00:22:23.900 so this is not actually news this information came out almost a year ago so i don't know why
00:22:31.840 the hollywood reporter is reporting on this right now but anyways melissa nathan who works for tag
00:22:38.080 which also as you know justin baloney hired to help him out of this crisis she's accused of 0.81
00:22:45.420 basically lying in her deposition because Stephanie Jones asked one of Melissa Nathan's co-workers 0.97
00:22:54.020 who also used to work for Stephanie Jones. It's so confusing. I'm so sorry. Her name is Katie Case
00:23:00.600 and Katie Case went from Stephanie Jones and started working for Melissa Nathan and in her
00:23:06.240 deposition she said that she was asked by Melissa Nathan to make a copy to basically write down
00:23:15.920 what was going to be on one of those websites. She has no text messages no evidence of that
00:23:24.580 but Stephanie Jones took her words for it and she confronted Melissa Nathan about it in her 0.99
00:23:30.400 deposition. And she basically said that Katie Case is lying. And it says here in the article 1.00
00:23:36.820 in the Hollywood Reporter, in new court filings, Melissa Nathan is accused of committing perjury
00:23:41.860 about her link to websites that have lodged anonymous complaints against prominent individuals
00:23:47.800 and companies. Nathan has denied involvement. I think there's been quite a few examples now
00:23:55.920 with all these lawsuits. I mean, there are 10 lawsuits now, 10 lawsuits that's connected to
00:24:03.040 the lawsuit that Blake Lively filed originally. And in those lawsuits, we've seen it so many times
00:24:09.380 contradicting testimonies. So that means that one or both parties are lying. They're lying under
00:24:18.200 oath. And I think that's pretty serious. It's called perjury. And the fact that some people
00:24:24.060 are willing to lie under oath what does that say about them what does that say about their ethics
00:24:30.780 about their morals and these people are the ones protecting celebrities in the media how are we
00:24:37.500 supposed to believe anything they say or do in the future i think the fact that stephanie jones
00:24:42.980 started this mess there would be no lawsuits if it wasn't for stephanie jones keep that in mind
00:24:49.580 She was the one who leaked those text messages from her employee's phone to harm her and to harm Justin Baldoni or punish him for leaving her.
00:25:01.000 So if Blake never had received those text messages, she might never have sued.
00:25:06.240 We don't know that for sure, but we know that the New York Times article would look very, very different if she ever got them to write anything without any evidence.
00:25:16.940 So the fact that Stephanie Jones keeps leaking these stories to the press is just stirring the pot even further and it just makes you lose all respect for that industry.
00:25:27.900 How can we trust any of these people?
00:25:30.360 How can we trust anything they say?
00:25:32.740 I mean, the next time you see this perfectly timed celebrity scandal, a glowing profile or an anonymous insider quote, we are going to go like, oh, we see what you're doing here.
00:25:45.500 We're not buying it.
00:25:46.360 I mean, their job was to make Hollywood look good, and now we can all see how ugly everything is.
00:25:54.980 Not only the celebrity world, but what goes on behind the scenes is even worse.
00:26:02.400 Anyways, that's it for me today, you guys.
00:26:05.120 Thank you so much for watching.
00:26:06.980 I really hope you enjoyed this episode.
00:26:09.140 And again, I'm sorry, my executive producer is busy again.
00:26:13.280 He's taking so much time off work lately.
00:26:15.620 Oscar my little dog he's out today he's at the paddle court doing his job there as a coach
00:26:22.720 for Magnus my partner so that is why he couldn't make it today but anyways he will be back tomorrow
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