Ep 8： This DETAIL could change EVERYTHING in Blake Lively v Justin Baldoni legal drama
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Summary
Blake Lively's team has subpoenaed 20 people on her social media accounts, including YouTubers and celebrities, and they want them to hand over their private data. Is this a scam? Or is this the real deal?
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Guess what happened the same day as this was filmed?
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Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Sashdi Flo and here on my channel I talk about my good amount of experiences in Hollywood,
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working as an entertainment reporter and as you know a lot about Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni's legal feud.
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And usually on Fridays I have a podcast but today I'm combining my podcast with an episode because there's so much to talk about
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and I've spent too much time speaking to lawyers and other YouTubers trying to solve this current situation
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where we're all being subpoenaed for our private information by Blake Lively and her team.
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So I'm sorry about that but I do promise you that this episode is going to be very juicy.
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I did get a tip this morning from someone who pointed out the most revealing evidence that I've seen so far in Blake Lively's case.
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I'm going to talk more about that later but first I wanted to explain today's most important news
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which is that Blake Lively has subpoenaed 20 people on X as well.
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As you know she has subpoenaed me and 15 other YouTubers and as you can imagine and as you know
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we've been all very frustrated about this because it's been so vague.
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First we thought they weren't real, we thought it was a scam, no one dared to reply to the email because it looks suspicious
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but now we know it's real and it happened again and this time it's even worse.
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So yeah, I'm actually in talks with one of the Xers.
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We call ourselves YouTubers but I don't know, people on X.
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Her username is The Spiritual Shift and someone showed me her tweet this morning
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and I read it and then I got in touch with her or she contacted me and we had a conversation about this
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and I'm going to talk to her later today and I'm going to do an episode with her
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But anyways, this is what she posted on X last night, late last night.
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Breaking exclusive, Blake Lively's legal team subpoenaed 20 X users.
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I was just subpoenaed over my ex post on the Blake Lively's Justin Maldoni case.
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Like many of you, I share my thoughts and opinions on public available information.
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And a casual content creator who started covering this case in late December 2024 to early January 2025
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Like many of you, I was drawn to this case not just because it involves two celebrities in legal dispute
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How media manipulation, celebrity power, and unchecked PR influence are used to control public perception and narratives.
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That's also why I'm so interested in this case.
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Of course, you know that I've been dragged into it because of my interview that went viral
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and started kind of a new avalanche of people questioning Blake's behavior.
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But one of the things that drew me to this whole legal feud as well is that there's so many layers to it.
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So this is the email that this user received from X.
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So in this legal filing this subpoena, it says that if she hasn't objected to this by July 16,
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they may release her private data, which was the day before she actually received the notice.
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So they sent this to her one day after the deadline to object to it.
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X has not disclosed any information regarding your account at this time.
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Please be advised that X may be obligated to produce basic subscriber information related to your account in the future.
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When very vague as well, as you can see, we wanted to bring this matter to your attention.
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If you intend to challenge the legal process, please raise this matter with the court of competent jurisdiction or the requesting party directly as found in the attached legal process.
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We suggest that you seek your own counsel if it doesn't matter, blah, blah, blah.
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So now she's asking 20 more people to get their own legal counsel.
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This is what really makes me so angry in this case.
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She's forcing people to get lawyers who cost usually around $500 an hour.
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Like I said yesterday, she's just proving again and again that she's a bully.
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There is a story actually in the Daily Mail from yesterday that just explains this so well.
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So the Daily Mail actually was the first publication to report on this.
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I was a little upset that no one picked it up yet, but it seems like now other outlets are starting to pick it up.
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I think they are going to publish a story today or later today.
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And I think now it's becoming bigger and bigger because now she's started to attack attacking more and more people.
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And if she's going to set this precedent that celebrities can get away with this by subpoenaing random content creators that are reporting on their behavior or recording on legal documents, that's really, really, really bad for everyone.
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For freedom of speech, for freedom of press and so on and so on.
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But anyways, this article has a guy who's interviewed.
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He works or he's the CEO of Reputation Management Consultants.
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His name is Eric Schiffer and he has some amazing quotes.
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That's why this article made me laugh also because there are, I think they interviewed about three people here.
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And then there's an attorney and all of them completely agree that this move from Blake Lively is a catastrophe.
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So I'm just going to quote a few of the things that he says here.
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He's saying dragging micro creators into court over chitchat is nuclear overkill that screams bully, not brilliance.
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Not even like the most diehard Blake Lively supporters, none of them has defended this move.
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So this guy, so Eric Schiffer here continues to say,
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Disney grape charm mutates into a mutant privacy predator.
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The instant she subpoenas creator's data and drenches Blake's rom-com glow in legal nipalm.
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The subpoenas spree risk turning America's sweetheart into big brother Blake,
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Hauling a channel with 38 subscribers into federal court in the PR equivalent
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is the PR equivalent of clubbing baby seals for sport.
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You don't sue low subscriber fleas with flamethrowers unless you crave a David versus Goliath backlash
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Every subpoenaed small blogger becomes an epic scale martyr.
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Their followers swarm like digital hornets, he says.
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He also says over-controlling celebs can take their brands into a death spiral
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when trying to muscle critics as they can cement a stone-cold crazy narrative that sticks.
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So many people now are saying that Blake Lively can never ever come back from this
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because what she's doing right now is proving what kind of person she is
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This is the worst thing she could have done at this point.
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He's like she needs to get control over this situation
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So yesterday, I saw that Donna posted this Donna from Daily Dose of Donna.
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If you don't know her, she's been here on my channel.
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And she's been commenting a lot on Blake Lively,
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Anyway, she was reposting this from Emily D. Baker.
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If you don't know who she is, she's an attorney.
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And she's sitting commenting on a lot of the legal stuff going on in the trials.
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And I was watching her a lot during Depp versus Heard.
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But what she said about this was really, really caught my attention as well,
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She said that subpoenaing content creators is going to be a massive backfire,
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She said they have the right to quash them because there probably isn't much of a basis,
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at least not until discovery is done further with the defendants.
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Like, no one knows what they're looking for here.
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And they're not going to find anything from these subpoenas.
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Then they're going to have to subpoena other stuff,
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Now they just want our bank account number and credit card number and IP address
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and home address and phone number and everything else that's super invasive.
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She said a lot of creators, even if they wouldn't call themselves reporters,
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are covered by a lot of the same shield laws that, like, the New York Times is.
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Any content creator that gets something like that is going to turn it into content.
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So for the content creator, it's going to be like, let's write.
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So what Blake Lively is doing now is she's going to make more and more people talk about this.
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And now we are also cross-promoting each other's channels.
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Like I said, I'm interviewing someone that's being subpoenaed on X today.
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Now you guys can go over and follow her on X and see what she's reporting on.
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that more people are going to find even more people they can follow and listen to
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And more people are going to come out and support.
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More people are going to get interested in this.
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This is just going to spiral completely out of control.
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But being incredibly book smart and being incredibly legally smart,
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being able to cite all of the Supreme Court case law for the last 15 years by name and key site
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is not going to help if you understand legacy media but don't understand social media
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because it's just going to keep getting worse and worse and worse.
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Like she's saying here, even his filings, you know, if you read his legal documents from Brian Friedman,
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He's writing in a language that everyone can understand.
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Why Blake Lively's lawyers are writing in a very legal, very technical language that most of us,
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and I've seen it myself when I read through those, I'm like, oh my God, I'm so bored.
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I'm half asleep half the way through because there's so many things that I don't understand
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And like she's saying, this is a very public lawsuit.
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And the fact that he's been presenting facts the way he has compared to how Blake Lively's team
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has been presenting this, it's a major difference.
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And I don't know what stupid idiot was saying that this was a good idea to subpoena content creators.
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I think this is going to be the end of Blake Lively, as so many people have pointed out here.
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But anyways, I'm going to talk about that email I spoke about in the beginning of this episode,
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where I said that I received an email this morning, a very good tip that I did not think about this.
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I don't know if any of you have seen this detail before.
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I double-checked everything, and this is so telling.
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Okay, remember that infamous video that Brian Friedman released with the audio
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where Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni are dancing?
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And everyone that saw that video, we were like, oh, that doesn't look like S.H. at all.
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That looks like two actors acting that they're in love.
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We analyzed it, and it looked like maybe even Blake Lively was being a little more pushy towards him
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And it looked like a professional set from what we could see.
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They were talking to each other out of character, and there was nothing inappropriate about it.
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Anyways, so Michelle, who sent me this, she pointed out to me,
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And it says at the top here, it says, there's a number there, that's the number of the file,
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So that means 23rd of May, guess what happened the same day as this was filmed?
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I can't believe Michelle actually noticed this, because this is such an amazing detail.
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So here is a text message exchange between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni on that exact same day.
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As you can see here on the top, it says 23rd 05 2023.
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I double-checked this with the legal documents as well.
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And the text from Baldoni says, I'm not going to tell you that you were amazing
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because you teased me for being so sentimental, but you were amazing today.
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I'm just a ball buster, but it means a lot to me.
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I care a great deal and always want to deliver.
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I'm proud of everything we did today, but really every day.
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I mean, I hope Brian Friedman has seen this because I think this is the most revealing thing
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If she's writing this to the same guy that she feels so threatened by
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and was harassed by earlier, just a few hours earlier that same day,
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So just a week, two weeks later on June 2nd, it says here,
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these are text messages that I took screenshots.
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So these are text messages, screenshots from a Daily Mail article
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But it says here on June 2nd, which is like two weeks later,
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Blake Lively is sending a message to Justin saying,
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I'm just pumping in my trailer if you want to work out our lines.
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And Baldoni says, eating with crew and we'll head that way.
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So this is also after that scene when she heard like main evidence,
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because that's what she said was kind of her main evidence was that dancing scene.
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And that was also the claim that leaked to TMZ.
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Remember that article when she said that, oh, he was trying to kiss me and made it uncomfortable.
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So that was obviously one of her major evidence that she was going to use.
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And as you know, she didn't know that there was audio on that.
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So I'm sure she was going to make up some stuff that they were talking about.
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But now we know there's audio there and we all heard it.
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And no one with their right mind can say that there's anything suspicious going on in that footage.
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We've got to call an insurance month and just deal with that.
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I feel like now when Blake Levy is so desperately trying to prove that there is a smear campaign
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and she has zero evidence that there was any SH going on.
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And people are just appalled by her latest action when she's subpoenaing everyone.
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Anyways, there's also more legal filings and ruling by the judge.
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So, he now ruled that Blake Levy is not obliged to show the Wayfair parties her net worth.
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They want her to prove her financial losses here.
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And the reason why they want to see her net worth is to see how much her investments have,
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you know, if she has other investments that have, you know, benefited her during this time,
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that she really hasn't, you know, suffered anything financially.
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They could also try to show that her brands were not the real source of her wealth.
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And that could weaken her argument that those brands were really damaged by this alleged smear campaign.
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She claims that because of Justin Baldoni, her hair care line, Blake Brown,
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lost about 56 to 70 percent of its potential sale.
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So, she's seeking damages for that lost income.
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So, Business Insider did a story on this, and it says here,
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however, in a partial win for Lively, the judge rejected Baldoni's request for her personal net worth records,
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agreeing that such details like property values and investments were irrelevant to her business losses.
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The case continues to move forward, blah, blah, blah.
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By requesting her net worth, Baldoni's team may have wanted to test the credibility of those claims.
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If her overall wealth remained stable and grew, it could undermine her claim of serious economic injury.
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And, of course, he did rule in Blake Lively's favor again, as he's been doing.
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I think what's going to be really interesting here is to see how Blake Lively claims financial loss,
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economic loss, while It Ends With Us was so successful.
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So, she's claiming that Baldoni was smearing her throughout this whole period of the premiere of the film and what happened after.
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And then, at the same time, as she was smeared by him, the movie was doing great.
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But a jury could say, you know, if her reputation was so damaged, why did the movie go so well?
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Why did people still go and watch her in that movie?
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It was her face on the poster and people still went to see it.
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So, how can she claim that her image was so damaged?
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And the movie made so much money in the box office.
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The only thing she can claim is that her hair care line didn't sell and that Betty Buzz and Betty Booze didn't do as well as she hoped for.
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But, of course, as we all know, Justin Baldoni had nothing to do with that.
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That was just Blake Lively's smear campaign against herself.
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She's the only reason why people are not liking her.
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Because no one needs to get paid to share their opinions about it.
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Anyways, you guys, thank you so much for watching this episode.
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And as I said, there will be more this weekend.
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I promise you, I will keep you posted on everything.
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