Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - April 10, 2026


EVERYTHING BACKFIRES on Blake Lively and her lawyers


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00:00:00.000 and that person could reveal to me what's really going on behind the scenes right now.
00:00:10.680 Hi and welcome to Flossum Talk. I'm Kersti Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice
00:00:15.540 of reason in a town built on delusion. I just spoke to my insider who knows the parties here
00:00:23.920 And that person could reveal to me what's really going on behind the scenes right now.
00:00:30.620 This is really juicy.
00:00:32.920 Also, could Blake Lively only have two claims left before this goes to trial?
00:00:38.860 That is very likely.
00:00:41.300 As you know, she's already lost 10 out of her 13 claims.
00:00:45.280 But there's one more that the judge has insinuated that he is ready to toss out.
00:00:51.440 You got to hear this.
00:00:52.880 Also, talking about digital violence, which is Blake Lively's favorite word right now,
00:00:58.780 and of course something she's accusing Justin Baldoni and his team of,
00:01:02.500 let's look at how this could backfire tremendously on Blake
00:01:07.460 and how Justin's attorneys could use all of this against her at trial.
00:01:13.680 In the middle of this, Blake and Ryan is making sure that everyone sees
00:01:18.280 that they've been part of successful projects.
00:01:21.440 lately. They both took the opportunity to share on their Instagram stories yesterday one project
00:01:28.260 each that they've been part of that's been nominated for an Emmy. And of course, Blake
00:01:33.200 Lively took the opportunity to remind everyone that she is a mother and she has children and
00:01:40.680 it's all for them. Talking about social media, let's look at Blake Lively's new followers and
00:01:46.860 why they're all animals. Okay, so let's get into it here. So as I said, I just heard from my source
00:01:54.360 who is close to the parties in this case. So that person just told me that Justin is feeling great
00:02:03.800 relief right now and they're definitely in the driver's seats. And they also said they have to
00:02:10.120 watch Blake crash before they figure out how hard to press for an apology. As you know, there's been
00:02:16.200 a lot of talks about settlements lately and Blake and Justin and his parties have both refused to
00:02:23.260 settle and here is a great explanation for that and I think a big part of that is Blake Lively
00:02:28.300 will never apologize to Justin and he will never move on or never settle unless she does and the
00:02:35.860 person continued to say Baldoni's team say that removing 90 percent of the cancer still leaves 10
00:02:41.440 percent of the cancer and cancer grows back fast and they say the problem is what it's always been
00:02:50.260 Blake is still very very powerful because her power comes from being able to create huge problems
00:02:57.120 unlike everyone else on a movie set who is there to solve problems she doesn't solve anything she
00:03:03.500 creates problems and then they're mentioning all the things the problems she created on the set
00:03:08.380 and the person says right now Blake is looking at her power and saying what huge problem can I
00:03:15.240 create for Justin rather than how can I help solve this her people are starting to suggest
00:03:21.360 that she becomes part of a solution but she never approached anything like this so it's going to
00:03:27.640 take a while for her to change the way she sees her power I don't think she will ever do that
00:03:33.900 And I think, of course, Ryan Reynolds is a big part of that.
00:03:38.280 Ryan Reynolds will never admit defeat.
00:03:41.100 The person also said they are, Baldoni's team, are suspicious of her tricks by now.
00:03:46.620 The problem is no matter what she agrees to,
00:03:49.800 she will be scheming to twist it around somehow to betray them.
00:03:54.680 And this person says, really, I suspect they are wary of Ryan planning a dirty trick
00:03:59.220 because he's very smart and can never admit his wrong.
00:04:02.880 so true and then this person pointed out like how they inserted the phrase retaliation
00:04:10.540 into that 17 point agreement knowing they would be weaponizing it in the future so true as you
00:04:18.600 know this contract which is basically everything blake has left of her lawsuit now is that 17
00:04:23.940 points of no more this and no more that or i won't come back and finish the movie this blackmailing
00:04:30.820 she did in the middle of the shoot after the strike to say that I don't want to come back
00:04:35.200 and do this movie unless you follow all these rules.
00:04:37.960 As I said before, a lot of those rules were things that never happened because as you
00:04:43.000 know, they didn't do any of the intimate scenes until part two of the production.
00:04:49.040 So Blake and Justin had not done any intimate scenes before this contract was created.
00:04:56.020 And in the contract, they said if any of these things were to happen that we're pointing
00:05:00.340 out that shouldn't happen here amongst other things hugging people that were close to Blake
00:05:06.160 and another point was no more sarcasm or no more change of attitude so if any of those things
00:05:13.920 occurred and she would experience any type of backlash she would have the right to sue them
00:05:21.160 over that because they added in that contract that no retaliation should occur for her speaking
00:05:30.500 up through this 17-point list. So yes, it was a way to plan things for the future as this person
00:05:39.060 is pointing out. So they also said that how do you even strike a deal with someone that you know
00:05:44.040 is going to betray you and attack you anyway? That's the predicament the Baldoni team is in.
00:05:50.760 So yes, that is another reason for them not wanting to settle because they basically can't
00:05:57.820 trust them.
00:05:58.960 Okay, so let's jump on to this.
00:06:00.780 The fact that the judge told TAG, the crisis management team that Justin Baldoni hired,
00:06:08.500 that they could adjust their documents, their summary judgments, and he would be willing
00:06:15.320 to look at it again insinuating that TAG, this crisis management company, basically could get
00:06:23.160 out of this lawsuit. As you know, Blake has three claims left. One is retaliation. Two is aiding and
00:06:30.400 abetting retaliation. That means that they got help to retaliate against Blake Lively and TAG
00:06:38.180 is the company that helped them do that. And Melissa Nathan, as you know, she's been mentioned
00:06:43.000 a lot in this lawsuit she works for tag and the last point she has left is breach of the contract
00:06:50.580 that writer agreement the 17 points that i just mentioned that she forced them to sign to return
00:06:56.560 to work so basically the judge has invited tag to explain to him why they should not be a part of
00:07:02.840 this lawsuit which makes total sense to me as you know the 17 point list was signed in january of
00:07:10.580 2024. And the retaliation was supposed to happen in August of 2024 and September of 2024. And
00:07:18.660 that's also when Tag was hired to help Justin Baldoni. So the fact that Blake is suing Tag
00:07:25.300 for retaliating against her speaking up in that contract when they weren't even hired at that
00:07:32.660 time makes no sense. They never signed a contract never to retaliate against her for speaking up.
00:07:40.580 So why should they be responsible for that?
00:07:43.060 They could claim that they didn't even know about that contract.
00:07:46.700 So it's very likely if they can argue this in a better way than I could probably hear
00:07:52.080 to the judge that he would toss out that claim as well.
00:07:56.160 And that means that Blake Lively can't say that this was a coordinated smear campaign
00:08:00.300 because one of our major points in her claims against Justin Baldoni was that he hired crisis
00:08:08.240 PR. And that means directly that he smeared her. And if the crisis PR team is no longer a part of
00:08:15.960 this lawsuit, that becomes problematic for her. And it also takes away the possibility for her
00:08:22.460 to say that, look at that Rebel Wilson case. You know, I mentioned Rebel Wilson's case many times
00:08:27.840 because Melissa Nathan and Tag, the same company, is involved in another lawsuit where someone
00:08:33.860 claims that they smeared them or helped smear them or that Rebel Wilson used that company
00:08:39.380 to smear her own producer and Blake Lively has brought that into this case saying hey judge look
00:08:45.320 over there they did that over there allegedly so they probably did the same thing to me and now
00:08:52.120 she can't really use that argument anymore because that seems like such a stretch like this company
00:08:57.680 is not even involved in the lawsuit anymore so that makes her case collapse even more and can
00:09:04.720 you imagine what a bummer what a defeat if this happens before trial and Blake Lively is stuck
00:09:14.160 with two claims that's going to look so bad for her in the press as well also the fact that the
00:09:20.460 judge is willing to toss out more of her claims says a lot about how much he believes in her case
00:09:26.300 to begin with. He just wants to get this over with. He wants this case to end. He thinks it's
00:09:33.000 a waste of taxpayers money and I think he is so fed up with Blake Lively and her legal team at
00:09:39.920 this point. In the meantime Blake and Ryan is trying to remind us on social media that they're
00:09:45.780 still a part of Hollywood and they're still a part of successful projects. Both of them did this
00:09:52.240 yesterday which was quite funny that both of them did at the same time posting a photo of a movie
00:09:58.740 that they're a part of that received Emmy nominations Ryan Reynolds movie Underdogs was
00:10:05.320 produced by Maximum Effort his company and Blake Lively posted a photo of Secret of the Penguins
00:10:11.900 where she was a narrator and she said this so honored to have been part of this beautiful story
00:10:19.020 congratulations to the incredible team who worked so hard this and with such care braving extreme
00:10:25.980 conditions to capture these awe-inspiring creatures in never before seen moments on film
00:10:30.780 i narrated this for my kids both in how i told the story and why it came at a time that my heart
00:10:39.840 needed it most oh it's about her kids and she is such a victim my kids love to fall asleep to
00:10:48.800 nature shows nothing more comforting and divine than these sweet babies and then two penguin
00:10:55.100 emojis no dragon in here by the way this series holds such a special place in my heart and my home
00:11:02.300 and then a heart emoji yes this family narrative this victim narrative that she's pushing every
00:11:09.240 single day on social media now it's quite funny i bet you people magazine is going to make a story
00:11:14.700 about this and the headline would be something like this Blake Lively I did it for my children
00:11:20.000 I can just see it happening anyways you know she posted that those scrambled eggs for Easter also
00:11:26.460 saying mom being on or whatever like oh I'm a mom I'm a mom and then the carrot cake family values
00:11:31.880 and there was a little dog in there as well and of course in her statement it was like oh I'm doing
00:11:37.160 this for the world and for the children anyways talking about digital violence which is Blake
00:11:42.080 Lively's new favorite phrase right now. It's all about digital violence. And considering how many
00:11:48.580 ways her and her husband Ryan has hurt Justin Baldoni, I can't wait for all of this to come up
00:11:56.120 in trial in front of a jury where they have to explain these things. There is a video that came
00:12:03.080 up in my feed today where Ryan explains how much he enjoyed killing nice pool in Deadpool. As you
00:12:11.100 know Ryan created Nice Pool as a cruel caricature of Justin just to mock him and the way he talks
00:12:19.760 about it in this interview is quite revealing. Yeah I loved killing Nice Pool because Nice Pool
00:12:24.600 was you know as much as he projected that he was wonderful he was a terrible human being
00:12:28.780 you know and I like that Deadpool gets to lean into that anti-hero thing and like gets to lean
00:12:34.300 into his like childlike desires. I want that. You know, be it Nice Bull's guns, his gold-plated guns
00:12:41.800 or his, you know, dog that like really should be with Wade because the dog and Wade look the same.
00:12:48.020 You know, I like sort of acting out envy. Yeah, you have to remember that Blake Lively was a part
00:12:54.660 of that. She was Lady Pull and I'm doing this because she wasn't even in that suit because
00:12:59.520 Ryan actually hired a body double to play Blake, so it's only her voice. I don't know why she
00:13:05.820 wouldn't get in that suit. We've talked about that before. Maybe Ryan didn't want his wife to be in a
00:13:11.180 tight suit after she gave birth. I don't know. But anyway, she agreed to play this character who shot
00:13:17.580 Nice Pool multiple times, by the way. And the way that they did it too, of course, just to disrespect
00:13:24.300 him even more. You know, Ryan has never denied that he actually based Niceful on Justin. He keeps
00:13:31.140 saying that he has low bone density, by the way. And as you know, Justin Baldoni ended up in the
00:13:36.200 hospital because of his back issues, which is really serious. But of course, Ryan just said,
00:13:41.340 oh, he's got low bone density. And that's why he had to fat shame my wife. Anyways, he even said
00:13:46.780 that to Matt Damon in that text. Remember, he sent a text message to Matt Damon to put zero pressure
00:13:52.840 on him to help Blake Lively because she had to save this movie from this clown who was in a cult
00:13:58.640 and the fact that Ryan Reynolds went to this length to belittle someone and to bully them
00:14:04.280 that just says a lot about his character he is not well in the head in the meantime this was so
00:14:11.280 funny thank you to assholemedia.com I have to laugh every time I say thank you but they're
00:14:16.840 doing such a great job. And they sent me these screenshots from Blake Lively's Instagram and who
00:14:24.720 her followers are. I mean, I've said it so many times. There's no way that Blake Lively has 41
00:14:30.380 million followers on Instagram. There is just no way. My bet is that she has about 3 million real
00:14:38.040 followers. And this is another example of that. So here are some of her new followers. Moose,
00:14:44.500 duck there's several sheeps here as well and there's someone called panda penguin kangaroo
00:14:53.520 gecko goose and rhino and lion she has a whole suit following her now isn't this pretty incredible
00:15:06.360 I mean this is so hilarious to me I truly hope that Baldoni and his lawyers have the means or
00:15:13.060 has the technical tools to actually go into her Instagram account and see how many of her
00:15:18.560 followers are actually real people. Because also, as you know, she's claiming that she was so popular
00:15:25.340 and if 90% of her followers are fake, which is something that I believe, then she has to admit
00:15:30.860 that her popularity was very inflated to begin with and she can't really claim that Baldoni
00:15:37.460 ruined her reputation. Also, how can she claim that he ruined her reputation while she still
00:15:42.860 has 41 million followers. That's also an interesting angle here. She didn't lose many followers from
00:15:48.480 this. Also, I think it's going to be really challenging for Blake to explain to a jury
00:15:53.640 how the alleged smear campaign that she claims happened around the promotion of the premiere
00:16:01.680 of It Ends With Us, how that in itself ruined her career opportunities. Because of the way I see it,
00:16:10.620 most of Blake Lively's reputation was tarnished after she filed a lawsuit
00:16:17.920 and she can't blame that backlash on Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties
00:16:24.200 so the fact that no one wants to hire her is because she's litigious
00:16:28.300 and not because she said stupid things during the premiere of It Ends With Us
00:16:34.340 so yeah that's it for me today you guys I hope you enjoyed this episode
00:16:37.480 still waiting for that witness list that's supposed to come today more stuff is happening
00:16:43.160 very soon they're also going to talk about a jury and all the qualifications that a jury member
00:16:49.580 needs to have to be part of the jury that's also something to look forward to hear I'm guessing
00:16:55.180 it's going to be a lot of back and forth on the docket the following weeks before the trial on
00:16:59.820 May 18th so stay tuned also of course if you haven't subscribed yet please do and hit the
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00:17:09.880 Bye.