Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - June 21, 2026


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00:00:00.000 So my big question is, when we get to see all that discovery,
00:00:04.220 if any of that can prove that Blake Lively acted with malice, what happens then?
00:00:15.520 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Sashli Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:20.160 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:23.420 So yesterday I was a guest on another podcast with two very seasoned attorneys and what they
00:00:31.340 told me about Blake Lively's legal team really shocked me. Also let's talk about Ryan Reynolds
00:00:38.260 tone-deaf Father's Day post on Instagram where he's pushing a little girl to the ground and why
00:00:45.180 is Justin Baldoni's ex-publicist Stephanie Jones hiring new crisis attorneys right now? Let's look
00:00:53.280 into that. And what's happening with all these cancelled celebrities coming out of the woodwork 0.96
00:00:58.760 all of a sudden? James Franco is on a roll trying to convince everyone that he is seeing aliens. Is
00:01:06.240 he pretending that he lost his mind for PR purposes or is there something seriously wrong with him?
00:01:12.700 And Olivia Wilde's ex-husband Jason Sudeikis just responded to her podcast appearance on Call Your
00:01:20.040 daddy that I spoke about yesterday. She went deep into all the controversy surrounding her movie
00:01:25.480 Don't Worry Darling and she also revealed some details about their marriage that her ex is not
00:01:31.760 happy about. And also we have to talk a little bit about Tyra Banks suing Netflix. She's suing them
00:01:38.380 for not coming across as an empathetic and nice person but now an insider is saying that this is
00:01:44.480 exactly who she is. Anyways, let's get into it. As I said, I was on a podcast yesterday, MK True
00:01:51.580 Crime, with two very seasoned attorneys, Mark Garagos and Matt Murphy. Mark Garagos is a friend
00:01:58.500 of Brian Friedman, worth mentioning here. He has defended some real controversial figures in
00:02:04.500 Hollywood, amongst them Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, Winona Ryder, Jussie Smollett, Scott
00:02:11.120 Peterson and the Menendez brothers. So he knows a thing or two about legal defense and big egos
00:02:17.200 in Hollywood. They were interviewing me about my experience with Blake Lively and my interview and
00:02:22.080 the fact that I was supposed to be a main witness. But Garagos also revealed that Blake Lively's team
00:02:27.580 has done so many stupid things. And he mentioned what they just did this week when they were asking 0.98
00:02:34.820 the judge for an extension of time and in that same letter they also asked how they should present
00:02:42.420 these fees if they should argue about this law or if they should send the receipts how the judge
00:02:48.040 wanted this done and Mark Garago said you know if they hadn't asked that question he wouldn't have
00:02:53.660 limited them to respond only in 10 pages if so if they hadn't asked for that I guess they could
00:02:59.760 have just written 50 pages to the judge anyways I never thought about it that way obviously
00:03:04.480 but I also believe that they asked for this extension
00:03:07.380 because they have something cooking.
00:03:09.360 The way that they have operated behind the scenes
00:03:11.820 during this entire lawsuit,
00:03:13.600 the fact that they subpoenaed the content creators,
00:03:16.300 the fact that they also signed off on that Van Zand,
00:03:19.160 that sham lawsuit that they filed
00:03:21.700 just to get hold of Jennifer Abel's phone,
00:03:24.600 the fact that they signed off on all those things
00:03:26.940 that are so shady.
00:03:29.040 As you know, he's a friend of Brian Friedman,
00:03:30.760 so I believe that he has a little more information
00:03:32.880 than what the rest of us have and he said the reason why Lyley's team contacted Brian Freeman
00:03:38.920 instantly after the judge had dismissed all these claims was because they wanted to jump into private
00:03:45.180 mediation and if you do private mediation according to him then that all that communication going on
00:03:52.280 in that meeting becomes confidential so if your client wants to sue you afterwards for malpractice
00:03:59.080 that's going to be really really difficult and he claims that the reason why Blake's team did that
00:04:05.500 was to protect themselves from a lawsuit from Blake Lively. If you want to watch that interview
00:04:10.200 it will be on the MK True Crime channel later today. Anyways as I said Stephanie Jones, Justin
00:04:16.680 Baldoni's ex-publicist who kind of is the reason why all of this happened by the way because she
00:04:23.940 took her ex-employee's phone and gave it to Blake Lively who gave it to the New York Times
00:04:28.260 And as you know, there is a separate lawsuit going on between Stephanie Jones and the owner of that phone, Jennifer Abel, who used to work for her. 0.99
00:04:36.540 And now it seems like Stephanie Jones needs some more help because she just added two crisis attorneys to her team.
00:04:45.500 As I mentioned before, that lawsuit is in the middle of discovery right now.
00:04:48.740 And we will get to know the information and the communication going on between her and Blake Lively and maybe also the New York Times.
00:04:57.880 because that Vance and Sham lawsuit played a big part in Blake Lively's lawsuit.
00:05:05.140 Basically, that whole New York Times article is based on a few text messages cherry-picked from that phone.
00:05:11.540 So my big question is, when we get to see all that discovery,
00:05:15.660 if any of that can prove that Blake Lively acted with malice, what happens then?
00:05:22.300 Interestingly enough, it's been really quiet from Blake Lively since she won this attorney's fees.
00:05:27.300 she hasn't mentioned it on her social media she hasn't put out a story she's gone radio silence
00:05:32.580 I don't know what's going on there I feel like when they get cool I feel like every time they
00:05:37.180 get really quiet something big is about to happen Ryan Reynolds on the other hand had to post
00:05:42.840 something pre-father's day I think father's day is on Sunday but he already posted this because
00:05:48.480 probably he thought it was so funny this is a this is a clip from a movie he was in with Leslie
00:05:55.300 man it was called the change up and he's throwing this little girl up in the air asking her if she's
00:06:00.120 on a diet and then she says can you come to dancing practice with me later uncle mitch and
00:06:05.180 ryan reynolds says that the only style of dancing that uncle mitch likes is a shiny pole and a broken
00:06:11.320 woman with daddy issues and then he says story time is over go fix you here and then he pushes
00:06:16.640 this girl uh to the steps and then he captions it it's important to be honest with them father
00:06:23.220 happy father's day to all dads out there how tone deaf is that after everything that we've seen
00:06:31.180 from him and after what he made his nine-year-old daughter do in the deadpool versus wolverine movie
00:06:38.280 remember that she said when i want your opinion i'll ask you to take your d out of wolverine's
00:06:43.700 mouth anyway she didn't want to say it and he was laughing about it in this behind the scenes video
00:06:49.520 with the director and the fact that he is supposed to be the supportive husband here
00:06:53.760 and he's pushing a little girl to the side so she falls over in the steps I mean obviously this is
00:06:58.980 a comedy movie but the fact that he used this clip to say happy father's day and you have to
00:07:03.720 be honest with them okay so let's get into all these other cancelled Hollywood stars and what
00:07:09.840 they're up to right now there's so much going on and why are all these people coming out right now
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00:10:31.100 documentary about America's Top Model and it was a big controversy last year and she came off as 0.98
00:10:37.320 the villain of the story and now she's suing Netflix for portraying her in a bad light.
00:10:43.740 So Rob Shooter reported on this and interestingly enough Rob Shooter used to represent her because
00:10:50.280 he also used to be a publicist. And he's saying here in this story that Tyra Banks is doing Netflix
00:10:57.340 claiming the streamer manipulated her interview and damaged her reputation. But he's saying here
00:11:02.820 inside, but insiders who've seen the full unedited footage tells me that the lawsuit may not deliver
00:11:09.840 the vindication she is hoping for. And he says, full disclosure, I worked for Tyra. She was the
00:11:17.080 first major celebrity i represented as a publicist and the tyra and the tyra viewers saw in the
00:11:23.520 documentary is the tyra i knew outspoken unapologetic and never afraid to say exactly
00:11:32.740 what she thinks and an insider is saying here that the biggest misconception is that there's
00:11:37.320 some softer completely different tyra hidden in the unaired footage there isn't tyra being tyra
00:11:45.640 for three hours instead of 16 minutes. Sources say the footage doesn't contradict the version
00:11:51.180 viewers saw. If anything, it reinforces it. And the person also said the unaired material
00:11:57.320 isn't a different person. It's more of the same person. And according to another insider,
00:12:02.320 it says here that Netflix actually exercised restraint in the final edit. People assume the
00:12:07.880 documentary used the harshest moments, says one source. That's not what happened. The producers
00:12:13.180 condensed hours of conversation into 16 minutes but the overall impression remains the same 0.67
00:12:18.780 so good luck to tyra banks i feel sometimes people would just file lawsuits like this just
00:12:26.840 for pr purposes to come out and say they edited it to make me look like a bad person it's very
00:12:32.880 ironic actually because isn't that exactly what tyra banks did to all these models throughout
00:12:38.720 all the seasons they edited everything to make people look like villains but now when it's 0.68
00:12:44.220 happening to her it's like oh I'm gonna file a lawsuit well we'll see where that goes anyways
00:12:50.060 as I spoke about yesterday Olivia Wilde did this interview with Call Your Daddy podcast host Alex
00:12:57.780 Cooper and she talks about all the controversies surrounding her movie Don't Worry Darling when she
00:13:03.060 was dating Harry Styles and had a fallout allegedly with Florence Pugh. Her name is Pugh by the way
00:13:10.580 yesterday I said hug because I thought that's the way you said it but a lot of people commented on
00:13:15.680 that. It's Florence Pugh. Anyways in the same interview she spoke about how her relationship
00:13:22.880 or her marriage to Jason Stakes fell apart and she's told this story from when the two of them
00:13:28.640 were in a car together after a birthday party that some of her friends arranged for her and she
00:13:34.300 asked him did you get me anything for my birthday and he said what would I get you I don't know who
00:13:39.800 you are and that's when they realized they didn't know each other anymore and now Jason Sudeikis
00:13:45.860 has come out and said that's not cool so according to Rob Shooter Jason Sudeikis was stunned to see
00:13:52.960 such a deeply personal moment revisited in public and an insider said here that jason is incredibly
00:13:59.800 private and was shocked to see this story resurface years later his first thought was their children
00:14:06.300 one day they'll read these interviews and that's what hurts the most the narrative makes it sound
00:14:12.500 like jason simply checked out of their relationships as an insider people close to them remember a far
00:14:18.340 more complicated situation. There were so many speculations there if Jason Sudeikis and Olivia
00:14:26.640 Wilde were still together when she started dating Harry Styles. I don't know the truth there but I
00:14:34.400 do believe there's a lot of hurt feelings there and it seems like there still are. But anyways
00:14:39.840 let's talk about another cancelled Hollywood star James Franco. This is so weird. Hey guys
00:14:47.180 um this is james franco me really james franco i'm um here at my house i'm not promoting anything 0.92
00:14:54.600 okay i'm making this account because um all right some serious some serious shit's going on okay
00:15:03.640 and um all these strange videos started popping up on tiktok just like a week ago or something
00:15:11.300 like that and everyone was like there's something wrong with james franco so james franco was
00:15:16.600 basically cancelled in 2018 he was in a movie that received a lot of critical acclaim that year
00:15:23.280 the disaster artist based on this real life character it was actually really really funny
00:15:29.300 I really liked that movie I was at the Golden Globe that year and that was the year of Time's
00:15:34.420 Up the Me Too movement really took off and everyone was wearing black on the red carpet
00:15:39.620 and James Frank was there himself with this button saying Time's Up and then after he had won this
00:15:45.500 Golden Globe all this information came out from women especially women who were his students at
00:15:52.420 his acting school saying that he was acting inappropriately and there was also a lawsuit
00:15:58.600 coming his way and then apparently he also had started texting or DMing an underage girl on
00:16:07.200 Instagram his whole world was falling apart and also during that time his relationship and
00:16:13.120 friendship with Seth Rogen just completely collapsed. Seth Rogen took a step back and was
00:16:18.000 like, I don't want anything to do with this guy. But now all of a sudden he is popping up again
00:16:22.940 and he has some movies coming out. So at first when he created this new TikTok account with
00:16:27.980 these really surreal, bizarre videos, people were like, oh, it's just a PR strategy for his
00:16:34.140 latest movie. He has a movie called Sunshine that's coming out soon where he is playing
00:16:39.720 a guy who befriends a terminally ill person so it has really nothing to do with what he's talking
00:16:47.580 about in these videos. In his first couple of videos he was like I have something huge to
00:16:52.000 reveal to you guys this is so big and I don't know how to say it and this is me this is no AI
00:16:57.260 and he was building up all this excitement around these videos and then further down the line he
00:17:03.400 started talking about something really weird happening in his garage and then he revealed
00:17:08.760 that there was an alien there that he had seen a hand and an alien and he wanted to show it to
00:17:13.860 people and that's when i was like okay he was not a raccoon score it was not possible enough no
00:17:20.900 i saw hand i saw eyes i saw glowing eyes the thing is i think james franco is pretty smart
00:17:34.220 And there is a reason for him doing these videos.
00:17:37.700 I think the last video of all of these, we're like, okay, now I get it.
00:17:42.080 He's pretending that two of his friends are showing up at his door,
00:17:45.920 asking him, you know, are you okay?
00:17:48.520 We've seen your videos.
00:17:49.940 This, like, you have a very bizarre behavior.
00:17:54.640 Somebody's knocking at the door.
00:17:56.880 Yeah, I'm here.
00:18:00.800 Oh, hey.
00:18:02.020 What's up, guys?
00:18:03.020 why are you filming um well i'm just making i'm doing some stuff right now what's up you good
00:18:09.080 uh what's going on and that video to me was like okay i don't believe this i don't buy it so i
00:18:18.040 think this is a really desperate attempt from james franco to promote something maybe just to
00:18:23.900 promote himself that he wants to be back he also just signed up for a bigger budget hollywood movie
00:18:30.900 from Lionsgate also starring interestingly enough David Harbour remember David Harbour from Stranger
00:18:38.420 Things he was accused by his co-star Millie Bobby Brown of being like of creating a toxic work
00:18:44.460 environment for her and then at the premiere of the last season they pretended like nothing that
00:18:50.040 they were really good friends something was really strange there and at the same time his ex Lily
00:18:55.780 Allen dropped this album talking about what a horrible husband he was and he had been cheating
00:19:01.300 so much he even had this apartment where he brought all these women it wasn't looking great
00:19:06.140 for David Harbour but anyways now he's co-starring with James Franco in this movie interesting casting
00:19:11.560 there but what the conversation has turned into online now is whether James Franco deserved to
00:19:17.980 come back whether he deserves a comeback or not I don't know so he settled with all these women
00:19:25.140 who were accusing him of these things. 0.99
00:19:27.140 I think they accused him of doing scenes nude
00:19:29.640 and getting undressed unnecessarily, things like that.
00:19:33.660 There were also some ex-girlfriends involved.
00:19:36.280 I don't remember all the details there,
00:19:38.580 but I think a very telling part of this
00:19:40.960 is that Seth Rogen is refusing to have any contact with him.
00:19:45.300 He said in an interview recently
00:19:46.960 that he never wants to work with him again
00:19:49.220 and that they haven't spoken in a very long time.
00:19:51.940 He said it was complicated and very personal
00:19:54.820 as well so when I heard that I was like okay why would Seth Rogen do that to someone who's been his
00:20:01.040 friend for 20 years unless there was something more serious going on so yeah and another detail
00:20:06.720 I just forgot the director of this movie called Sunshine which is the movie that he's working on
00:20:12.420 right now came out and said that this is definitely not promo for this movie so yeah all this weird
00:20:18.700 stuff is going on right now as I spoke about the other day too Armie Hammer just did an interview
00:20:23.320 and said that he would do anything to get back into Hollywood.
00:20:26.240 It seems like this is the time now for all the cancelled people
00:20:29.760 to come out of the woodworks and do new projects.
00:20:32.860 Let's see if the world is ready to forgive James Franco
00:20:35.320 or if he's actually just lost his mind completely
00:20:38.880 or if this is just PR.
00:20:40.940 If it is, if he reveals that this is just for a movie,
00:20:44.260 I think people are going to like him less for that.
00:20:47.160 No one likes to be fooled, as I spoke about so many times before,
00:20:50.860 when actors team up and pretend that they're having an affair just to sell a movie it always
00:20:57.380 backfires so if he comes out and say that this is just a stunt I think it's gonna backfire on him
00:21:03.700 I don't know what do you guys think anyways I wanted to end this episode of something funny
00:21:08.300 that I saw on Instagram this morning as you know is the world cup right now I'm not a big soccer
00:21:14.380 fan but of course because Norway has a team this time and I've been following a little bit of the 0.58
00:21:19.400 pr stunts that they've been running all this viking gear that they've been dressing up as
00:21:24.420 and also how the supporters have created this big movement or theme or whatever when they're
00:21:30.260 sitting pretending like they're vikings rowing and going row row row and this morning i saw the
00:21:36.420 norwegian parliament doing it in the parliament with all the politicians present and the hammer
00:21:43.420 went down and everyone in there did the rowing thing and I just thought that was such a unifying
00:22:03.060 thing and I thought it was a great thing to bring a country together and to bring politicians
00:22:07.780 together that normally doesn't agree on anything but sports create this unity and I think that can
00:22:14.080 be a beautiful thing anyways that's it from you guys thank you so much for watching and thanks
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