Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 25, 2026


Judge Liman Opens EVERYTHING in Blake Lively's case !!

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Devastating TURN For Blake !! It's Getting UGLIER !!

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00:00:00.000 And this basically is the biggest nightmare for Blake and Ryan.
00:00:10.420 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Sashty Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:15.080 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Oh my gosh, this came as the biggest
00:00:23.940 shock ever. So Judge Lyman just decided that all the evidence and all the exhibits that Blake
00:00:33.000 Lively has fought to keep secret from us should be released. So now he's giving both parties here
00:00:41.800 a deadline to fight this and basically saying that the public deserves to see all this stuff.
00:00:49.860 And this basically is the biggest nightmare for Blake and Ryan.
00:00:55.900 As you know, the Wayfair parties just wanted transparency from the beginning here,
00:01:00.620 sharing all their evidence.
00:01:02.640 And Blake, as you know, has been really fighting to keep a lot of this stuff from the public.
00:01:08.780 But now it's all going to come out.
00:01:11.740 And I expect this dump to be more or less as big as the one that we had in January.
00:01:17.660 So stay tuned for that.
00:01:19.340 And on top of that, today is the deadline for another huge unsealing in the Stephanie Jones versus Jennifer Abel.
00:01:30.360 Nothing has been filed as of right now, so deadline is by the end of today, Monday, but expect tomorrow to be crazy.
00:01:40.520 And we have to talk about this story that blew my mind about Meghan Markle being considered for a role in Guy Ritchie's The Gentleman Season 3 airing on Netflix.
00:01:53.860 There were so many holes in this story, but everyone seemed to pick it up.
00:01:58.440 And it came more or less at the same time as Prince Harry and Meghan had announced their return to the UK.
00:02:06.380 and the same day as Prince Harry was ordered by a judge to pay millions towards the Associated
00:02:14.660 Newspaper's legal costs. What a mess. Let's look into who's telling the truth here. Also,
00:02:21.980 there's a lot more information coming out in regards to Hayden Panettiere. Now Page Six has
00:02:27.460 spoken to one of the neighbors who shared more about the devastating relationship she had
00:02:33.400 to Brian Hickerson. Also today, ABC is releasing an exclusive interview with her mother. Anyways,
00:02:42.520 let's get into it. So I was really shocked when I saw this on Friday. Judge Lyman just
00:02:48.280 ordered both parties here to tell him why, a good reason why, he shouldn't release the rest of the
00:02:55.900 exhibits the documents, transcripts from depositions, text messages, emails, all this stuff
00:03:03.560 that parties wanted to keep from the public. As you know, the Wayfair parties have been transparent
00:03:09.660 throughout this entire litigation, while Blake Lively's side had been fighting really hard
00:03:15.420 to keep evidence from the public eye. And in January, we had this huge dump of evidence.
00:03:22.840 included in that dump was a lot of texts and emails from ryan reynolds wme communications
00:03:30.460 between people at sony blake and taylor's texts all of this really juicy stuff that we've been
00:03:37.980 talking about ever since and some of the stuff that came out contradicted things that blake
00:03:43.820 said herself in her deposition and as we learned from later interviews with brian friedman he said
00:03:50.560 we hadn't even seen half of it so we can now expect a lot of really explosive stuff to come
00:03:56.980 out in the very near future so both parties have until september 4th to tell judge lyman why some
00:04:03.960 of these exhibits should still be sealed i had no idea that this is the way it works that you
00:04:11.180 can't just keep things sealed forever so when you're looking at the numbers of these exhibits
00:04:16.940 They run basically from 891 to 1418, which means that these are exhibits that is added later on in discovery.
00:04:27.660 And as we learned, there are 38 motions to seal stuff.
00:04:32.060 So there's a lot of stuff that Blake wants sealed.
00:04:35.160 And under those 38 motions, there could be a lot of attachments as well.
00:04:39.280 And that's why I believe this dump could be really huge.
00:04:42.280 So the deadline is September 4th, and I don't believe the wafer parties are going to fight any of their exhibits, except that the personal information, as I said, but Blake's team are going to reveal already then what kind of information that's behind these exhibits and why they want to keep it sealed.
00:05:02.280 So some of this stuff that the judge wants to release, we know, is from Blake's deposition.
00:05:09.140 And also there are some exhibits marked with Ryan Reynolds.
00:05:13.680 So yes, and WME as well.
00:05:16.320 And a lot of this stuff is marked confidential.
00:05:20.060 And it's marked BL, which means that this evidence came from Blake Wively.
00:05:24.900 This, of course, is devastating for Blake and Ryan.
00:05:28.660 Because, as you know, they want to have their career backs.
00:05:32.280 And this will be a major setback for them.
00:05:35.140 I mean, some of these exhibits are going to be explosive.
00:05:39.340 So they are going to create new headlines.
00:05:43.020 And it's interesting to me that the judge wants all of this stuff out there
00:05:47.580 before he even rules on that $8 million that Blake Wively wants in attorney's fees.
00:05:53.920 So I'm thinking maybe he wants the public to see that she committed perjury.
00:05:59.140 As you know, we already know that she did it a couple of times in her deposition.
00:06:04.200 And maybe we're going to even learn more about that.
00:06:05.880 So maybe he's doing this to justify that he's giving her a very small amount of attorney's fees or maybe nothing at all.
00:06:13.760 I don't know how this works.
00:06:14.940 So that is just something that came to my mind here.
00:06:17.800 But I do believe that we are going to see Blake and Ryan in a panic mode in the public space.
00:06:25.020 We're going to see a lot of Instagram posts and reels and stories in desperation,
00:06:32.880 trying to get attention from the media, especially of Blake being relatable,
00:06:37.860 how strong their relationship is and that Ryan is the most supportive husband ever.
00:06:43.440 And I saw Blake already posted a reel yesterday of herself baking a cake filled with candy.
00:06:49.640 And it reminded me of when she was caught in that bakery of not wearing a hairnet. 0.99
00:06:54.100 remember that last year it was a huge controversy because she was pretending to be relatable working 1.00
00:07:00.620 behind the scenes at this bakery shop and then she had her long hair all over the place and she did
00:07:07.160 that when she baked this cake as well but I guess that was only for family members so they maybe
00:07:10.900 don't care if there's a little hair in that cake but anyways I just realized when I was looking at
00:07:15.420 her Instagram that when Blake posts pictures together with Ryan she gets three to four times
00:07:21.540 as many likes as when she only posts with herself. So that is worth noting I think that people are
00:07:27.640 supporting of her Instagram posts if she adds Ryan to them. Ryan still has some kind of fan base out
00:07:33.300 there. Anyways as I also mentioned today is the deadline for more unsealings in the Stephanie
00:07:40.400 Jones versus Jennifer Abel case. As you know Stephanie Jones is the one who took her employee's
00:07:46.420 phone, Jennifer Abel, who worked as a publicist for Justin Baldoni, when she said she was leaving
00:07:52.840 her company to start her own company and bring Justin Baldoni with her. She got furious and
00:07:57.980 contacted Blake Lively and said, hey, I have this phone with a lot of information that you might be
00:08:03.400 able to use against them. So then by giving you that phone, I can punish them for leaving me.
00:08:09.760 That was Stephanie Jones' motivation. Let's face it. She just wanted to punish Jennifer Abel
00:08:15.020 and Justin Baldoni for leaving her.
00:08:17.380 And what's interesting here is
00:08:18.900 Stephanie Jones is not fighting
00:08:21.140 to keep a lot of this information sealed
00:08:24.940 or continued to be sealed,
00:08:27.360 which tells us that she doesn't really care
00:08:31.140 about Blake Lively anymore.
00:08:32.700 Why would she? 1.00
00:08:33.580 She's only interested in winning this case herself.
00:08:36.940 So if that means throwing Blake and Ryan under the bus,
00:08:40.620 why would Stephanie care about that? 0.76
00:08:43.020 that lawsuit is already settled anyway i wonder what relationship stephanie jones has to blake 0.97
00:08:50.620 lively now so if it's not too late today maybe i'll make another episode about this or i'll give
00:08:56.260 you a lot of juicy stuff tomorrow so stay tuned for that if i'm having a wild guess here i think
00:09:02.380 we're going to learn more about van zan that sham lawsuit that everyone's been talking about for a
00:09:08.700 really long time to see who talked to who, what was the communication going on behind the scenes
00:09:15.300 here between especially Stephanie Jones and Blake Lively. When they agreed on how Blake Lively
00:09:22.300 should receive this phone, who came up with the idea that they could create this fake lawsuit
00:09:29.420 to give this subpoena to Stephanie Jones so she could get the phone legally? Who came up with that 1.00
00:09:35.660 idea hopefully we'll find out that maybe tomorrow and also how was that information given to Blake
00:09:42.220 and was any of that information given to Blake before she could legally receive it and how was
00:09:50.420 that information given to the New York Times there are so many things that we are about to learn
00:09:55.760 and tomorrow we might have more answers yeah my favorite part about this is how Blake and Stephanie
00:10:03.620 Jones colluded together against Baldoni and the Wayfair parties, and now how both parties'
00:10:09.900 interests have changed here. Blake and Stephanie, I believe, are not friends anymore. Jones has no
00:10:16.560 interests in protecting Blake Lively anymore. Okay, so let's jump into the Meghan Markle and
00:10:23.880 Prince Harry story. As you might know, they announced last week that they're moving back
00:10:28.860 to the UK, and people were like, hey, how could you move back to the UK? You said it wasn't safe
00:10:33.260 there you don't have security there and then the same week it was also known that prince harry
00:10:39.420 is ordered to pay around 10 million pounds around that sum to the associated newspaper
00:10:47.360 for that lawsuit he and other celebrities in the uk just lost and then on friday before actually
00:10:54.080 that news broke about harry having to pay all this money there's there was this story about
00:11:00.460 Meghan Markle being considered for a role in The Gentleman, the Guy Ritchie, successful Guy Ritchie
00:11:07.900 Netflix series, which already had one season out and the second season is premiering on September
00:11:15.080 4th. I think there's a premiere in the UK on September 2nd, by the way. Anyways, this information
00:11:22.000 came from Bronte Coy, a royal correspondent in Australia who told News.co that Meghan had been
00:11:30.240 offered a role in The Gentleman. And then Deadline jumped on this instantly, putting out a story
00:11:37.560 that there were preliminary conversation that Meghan was going to have a role in Guy Rich's
00:11:45.300 The Gentleman. Then Variety went even further, saying that they could confirm that Meghan was
00:11:51.740 in talks. But at the same time, they said that Netflix still had not confirmed that they were
00:11:57.720 actually going to be a gentleman season three they had not greenlit another season as i just said
00:12:05.080 season two is about to start so of course i'm thinking they're going to see how successful
00:12:09.600 that season is before they actually start thinking about another season then the sun in the uk had a
00:12:15.660 story saying that megan was in advanced talks that she could play the ultimate temptress that
00:12:23.120 she potentially seduced an aristocrat and that she was very excited about this opportunity
00:12:29.380 and then the son did another story claiming the role was a driving force behind harry and megan
00:12:35.960 sudden move back to britain so this story spread like wildfire of course people magazine also
00:12:43.960 jumped on it and everyone was like wow this is big news then all of a sudden tina brown the former
00:12:50.220 editor of Vanity Fair comes out on X and say that this deal is off. Hollywood Reporter makes a story
00:13:00.260 about it saying Meghan Markle reportedly dropped from consideration to join Guy Rich's The Gentleman
00:13:07.140 and they're saying the former editor-in-chief of Vanity Fair in the New Yorker, Tina Brown,
00:13:12.220 reported Saturday that the decision came after intense backlash in the UK so all of a sudden
00:13:20.680 just during 24 hours Megan was supposed to have this part in a Netflix show that wasn't decided
00:13:27.600 on yet everyone jumped on it and everyone and people even started speculating what role she
00:13:32.880 was going to play and how excited she was about it until people in the UK didn't like that idea
00:13:38.380 and then it was all shut down.
00:13:40.540 I was thinking at first,
00:13:41.860 maybe it's Meghan's team planting this story
00:13:44.540 to let the world know that she's in demand
00:13:47.380 of getting roles in Hollywood or in the UK,
00:13:51.220 that she's still hireable,
00:13:53.260 although a lot of people don't like her.
00:13:56.140 But then I was thinking, you know,
00:13:57.240 when people find out that it's not true,
00:13:59.620 then that backlash is going to be even greater
00:14:02.800 than the news was that she was actually considered
00:14:06.480 for this role.
00:14:07.420 And the fact that so many outlets jumped on this without getting any confirmation from anyone is quite astonishing.
00:14:15.040 Because no one from Guy Ritchie's team, no one from Netflix, and no one from Megan's team confirmed that any of this was ever true.
00:14:22.480 And then I was thinking, was this Netflix who did this? Who planted this story?
00:14:26.740 Because they wanted more attention around season two of The Gentleman.
00:14:30.720 That would have been pretty clever, even for Guy Ritchie to plant that story.
00:14:34.720 because I didn't know season two was coming until this story broke I was like oh I did actually
00:14:40.840 enjoy Gentleman the first season and I didn't know season two was coming and can you imagine
00:14:46.040 a better PR stunt than this for season two of The Gentleman yeah I don't know who leaked this
00:14:54.720 but it's clear who it benefited the most here and that is not Meghan Markle if you ask me
00:15:00.180 That is Guy Ritchie and Netflix, who got a lot of free publicity surrounding the premiere of season two of The Gentleman.
00:15:10.380 It's going to be interesting to see how Meghan and Harry's lives are going to be in the UK.
00:15:17.700 They still are going to keep their house in Montecito, apparently.
00:15:21.640 So they have an opportunity to go back to California, I guess.
00:15:24.800 There's a lot of rumors surrounding this move and the reason behind it.
00:15:28.880 One of them being that they're getting a divorce.
00:15:32.000 I don't know if I believe that or not,
00:15:34.060 but some people are saying that Harry wants the kids to be in the UK
00:15:38.520 and go to school there because then it is going to be harder
00:15:42.780 for Meghan to take his kids away from him and bring them back to California.
00:15:48.040 I don't know. 1.00
00:15:48.680 People love speculating about this couple.
00:15:51.880 But what I'm excited to find out is if Harry and William
00:15:55.940 are going to reconcile.
00:15:58.880 I know Harry wants to do that,
00:16:00.960 but I'm not sure if William will ever be ready
00:16:03.540 to forgive his brother.
00:16:05.880 Anyways, there's also some more news
00:16:08.440 about Hayden Panettiere.
00:16:10.660 The fact surrounding this story
00:16:12.540 is getting darker and darker.
00:16:14.880 And today, ABC is releasing an interview
00:16:17.620 with her mother.
00:16:19.540 As you might have seen in the press,
00:16:21.220 her mom came out just a few days
00:16:23.600 after she passed away.
00:16:25.620 and talked about how talented her daughter was.
00:16:28.400 And then she started blaming everyone else
00:16:31.020 for what happened to her while people were like,
00:16:33.200 hey, you're her mom.
00:16:34.760 Where was your responsibility in there? 0.91
00:16:36.640 You were the one who put her into acting
00:16:38.640 while she was 11 months old.
00:16:41.200 And some of the things she said was just so tone deaf
00:16:44.560 and she got a lot of backlash for it.
00:16:47.340 And that's why I believe she did this interview with ABC
00:16:50.460 to kind of try and save her skin a little bit.
00:16:53.360 and a small portion of it has been released which is this i want hayden or hayden to be remembered
00:17:00.280 for the talented you know beautiful outgoing intelligent woman she really was yeah so let's
00:17:10.440 see what the entire interview is going to be it's not released yet as i said but it will be
00:17:16.360 out there later today so see if you can find that and let me know what you think and also in the
00:17:22.000 news page six has spoken to one of Hayden's neighbors who was living next to her while she
00:17:29.620 was in a very abusive relationship with her on and off boyfriend brian hickerson this person told
00:17:35.700 page six that she witnessed twice that Hayden was removed from her apartment on a gurney
00:17:44.880 that happened in 2023 and 2024 and they heard hostile arguments involving Hickerson and she
00:17:53.280 also said they put out a note in their neighborhood looking at this note here warning people if they
00:18:00.940 saw Brian Hickerson that they should call 911 it says here that to all residents and guests of the
00:18:07.640 Hancock condominium this individual has been seen trespassing in the common areas and hallways
00:18:14.360 please do not grant him access to the building if seen anywhere on this property please call 911
00:18:20.320 immediately and report that he is trespassing on the premise this neighbor also said that these
00:18:28.220 posts were constantly removed and she doesn't know who did that and Mia Terrazas as his neighbor's
00:18:35.820 name is said she also witnessed bright and red spots and bruises on Panetta year she spoke to
00:18:43.680 her several times and she said here in the quote from the post it appeared that she had been beaten
00:18:49.080 up it wasn't apparent to me that it could have been anything else. Teresa said adding that
00:18:54.680 Panettiere allegedly often looked battered. She also asked Panettiere while she was on a gurney
00:19:02.060 in 2023 if she was okay and Hayden said yes and they're mentioning again here that Hickerson
00:19:08.940 Her own boyfriend was sentenced to 45 days in jail and four years of probation.
00:19:14.820 As you know, there is an investigation going on now and her ex-boyfriend or boyfriend, whatever, he has hired a lawyer and he has come out with a statement through his attorney who said that as has been publicly reported, police confirmed there were no signs of foul play.
00:19:33.540 Out of respect for Hayden's loved ones and the ongoing investigation, there will be no further comments at this time.
00:19:41.660 Hayden's rep told Page Six that while an investigation is ongoing and further developments are coming to light,
00:19:48.320 we are confident that justice will soon be served.
00:19:51.760 So when they say justice will be served, I mean, for me, that indicates that there was some foul play.
00:19:57.880 I don't know hopefully we will find out more about this case as we go on and it's so devastating to
00:20:05.360 see what Hayden had to endure in her short life being with this horrific toxic guy and on top of
00:20:14.060 that having a mother that wasn't there for her yeah I hope this incident sparks a new conversation
00:20:19.760 about children and how they are treated in Hollywood I saw some other celebrities come out
00:20:24.500 and comment on that as well there needs to be a security a safety net surrounding these children
00:20:32.000 that are so often taken advantage of anyways that's it for me today you guys thank you so
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00:21:21.080 All the stories they hide
00:21:25.060 Yeah, we've lost some talk