Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 21, 2026


Devastating TURN For Blake !!

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Ganging Up Against Blake !! Judge Liman Opens EVERYTHING in Blake Lively's case !!

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00:00:00.000 He just gave Blake Lively another headache. The judge has ruled and this is getting really
00:00:05.320 interesting. Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Sashthi Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller
00:00:15.340 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. First of all, I just wanted to say it
00:00:22.020 again. Thank you so much for sending me amazing tips. So whenever you have something you want
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00:00:32.760 subscribed yet, it would be amazing if you do. And also check if you've been unsubscribed. That
00:00:37.380 does happen sometimes. Anyway, let's get into it. Jed Wallace, that guy over in Texas, the one Blake
00:00:43.200 Lively accuses of being the brain behind the untraceable underground smear machine. He just
00:00:50.220 gave Blake Lively another headache. The judge has ruled and this is getting really interesting.
00:00:57.300 some new backlash for her hair product line, Blake Brown. This interview she did last year
00:01:04.700 just came back and slapped her in the face right when she's about to launch some new products.
00:01:11.260 Also, let's look at how Ryan Reynolds describes his soul. This is very telling. And let's get into
00:01:17.960 the backlash against Neutrogena after Hayden Panettiere's passing. Now people are encouraging
00:01:25.840 each other to boycott the brand let's get into what happened there talking about Hayden I just
00:01:31.960 realized that she followed Justin Boldoni on Instagram she did not follow Ryan Reynolds and
00:01:38.360 she was in projects with both of them and maybe people didn't know but Justin was a guest on her
00:01:45.240 show Heroes on season three he was in two episodes and played her love interest on the show that was
00:01:52.880 in 2009 so a really long time ago in 2008 the year prior to that Hayden was in a movie with
00:02:01.480 Ryan Reynolds there are photos of the two of them together on the red carpets thank you Joseline by
00:02:08.240 the way for sending me that so Hayden and Ryan were in the movie fireflies in the garden together
00:02:14.880 and guess what she's not following or she was not following Ryan on Instagram yeah I just found
00:02:23.300 that interesting and I think it says something about her character as well she kept following
00:02:28.620 Justin throughout all of this I don't know if people unfollowed him during this feud but I just
00:02:33.900 thought it was worth mentioning anyways let's look at the new backlash that Blake received thank you
00:02:39.160 sylvia for sending me this clip so i remember blake did this interview last year for wwd
00:02:46.180 and it was this lovely interviewer who asked her nothing about the legal feud only about the success
00:02:53.420 story behind blake brown and then blake came up with this super ridiculous story of what was kind
00:03:00.440 of the inspiration for some of these new products literally gotten jugs like the big jugs of water
00:03:06.940 and filled them with ocean water and tried to check them on a plane.
00:03:10.740 They told me no.
00:03:11.620 That probably doesn't go over a lot.
00:03:12.160 And I was like, I'm not going to TSA.
00:03:13.540 I'm checking it.
00:03:14.140 They're like, you can't check jugs of water.
00:03:16.680 I'm like, but it's the ocean.
00:03:18.260 You can't.
00:03:18.760 No salt spray.
00:03:19.600 No sea salt spray is going to do this because it's going to wear your hair down.
00:03:22.940 And it didn't work.
00:03:24.900 So that's hilarious.
00:03:26.040 Where were you?
00:03:27.220 Just California.
00:03:28.440 But it's just like, I think it's also the saltiness in the air.
00:03:32.860 And yeah, I went home and I just filled some jugs of water.
00:03:36.400 Okay.
00:03:36.940 So now people are reacting to it.
00:03:38.980 There's a long thread on X, on Instagram, on TikTok.
00:03:43.640 People are discussing what she's actually saying in this interview
00:03:47.320 and if it's actually any truth to it.
00:03:50.020 And the online magazine in the UK, Fashion Times,
00:03:53.740 also did a story on this talking about the backlash.
00:03:57.820 But let's first get into the content of this conversation, 0.75
00:04:01.420 which I found so ridiculous.
00:04:03.660 so Blake is basically saying that she tried to bring on seven and a half liters which is two
00:04:09.540 gallons of seawater onto a plane first of all my question is did she fly commercial it seems like
00:04:16.760 her and Ryan are only flying private so the fact that she went to the airport and pretended that
00:04:23.160 she tried to check in these like big chunks of water did she not put them in a suitcase she just
00:04:31.400 checked them in like that and expected them to just accept these junks of water I mean it's so 0.80
00:04:38.720 dumb and then when the interviewer asked her where was this where she brought all this sea 0.78
00:04:44.120 water from and the way she answered like just California was just so random that I think that 0.97
00:04:50.720 that's just something she made up in that second and one of the reasons for that is that I live
00:04:56.440 in California or part of the year I live in California I've never been in the ocean there
00:05:01.960 it's not like you go to the beach there especially if you live there she lives in New York though but
00:05:07.240 you don't really go to the beach and swim in the ocean the ocean is really freezing cold so most
00:05:13.080 people I know never actually been in the water and there's also a lot of reports on how dirty
00:05:18.440 the water is there so the fact that she went to the beach in California and picked up all this
00:05:24.020 seawater that she wanted to bring back to her place in New York so she could splash it in her
00:05:29.800 hair because she feels like that's the best look and I also have to say I completely disagree
00:05:35.400 that the best look on your hair is when you come out of the ocean and you have a lot of salt in it
00:05:41.880 I my hair looks awful after I've been to the beach you can't brush it you can't do anything with it
00:05:48.380 it's just salty and sticky and i do understand that people sometimes can get like a spray of
00:05:54.700 salty water and it could actually do something to your hair but to actually put salt water from
00:06:01.600 the ocean and think that that's a good look no way also she lives in new york she could just go
00:06:08.920 to long island or send her chauffeur to go there and grab this ocean water from there and bring it
00:06:17.420 to her apartment in Tribeca or their house upstate or whatever so this story makes absolutely no
00:06:24.900 sense and I feel that Ryan made this story up for her this is a typical Ryan Reynolds story
00:06:31.700 so he told her you know you need to have a good backstory for your Blake Brown products like I
00:06:38.020 have a good backstory for all my products and this is going to sound great it's going to make
00:06:43.240 you relatable. It's going to make you funny. And people are really going to buy your Blake Brown
00:06:48.760 products. We're buddies. We're partners. Just watching him do what he's done and how he lives
00:06:54.980 and how he operates. Somebody who I rely on for every facet of the business and my life. Yeah,
00:07:01.900 I mean, I couldn't. Nothing I do is without him. Also, I find it so amusing that she's pretending
00:07:07.600 that it took her seven years to develop Blake Brown it takes no one seven years to develop
00:07:15.120 hair products I have a friend who's a biochemist and he makes a lot of products beauty products
00:07:22.080 for celebrities and I told him this and he was laughing so hard he's like no way maybe maximum
00:07:29.840 it will take six months to make a product but never in a million years seven years and they're
00:07:37.740 saying here in fashion times.co.uk that once a celebrity goodwill runs out every past interview
00:07:45.200 is scrutinized for signs that any problematic behavior was present all along the phenomenon 0.78
00:07:52.320 is often referred to as bitch-eating crackers syndrome, where nothing the individual does 0.90
00:07:59.420 is interpreted in a positive light anymore. I think that's a really funny expression, 1.00
00:08:05.620 bitch-eating crackers syndrome. I think definitely that is what Blake is experiencing 0.99
00:08:11.260 right now and has been experiencing for the last couple of years.
00:08:16.040 I'm sure you get so many offers from so many different companies to work on projects. What
00:08:21.280 do you look for in a partner what makes you say yes honestly I look for kind people I think that
00:08:29.140 love and passion just shines through no thank you everything you do thank you for being here with me
00:08:34.560 today for having me so this new launch that Blake Brown is about to do or maybe they have started
00:08:42.040 selling these products are the curl products and Blake teased them on her Instagram not too long
00:08:48.900 ago saying the curls you've been craving and ryan reposted it so i think they have big hopes
00:08:56.500 for this new line of products from blake brown if you look at blake brown's instagram there's
00:09:03.420 a mention in the bio but there's no photos of blake lively anymore so i think they want to be
00:09:08.460 like hey blake you don't have to mention it so much maybe on your story because you have a few
00:09:13.020 fans left but not do like a proper post about it or anything like that because we think you're
00:09:19.240 really bad for the brand talking about older clips this was quite interesting thank you for sending
00:09:24.080 this to me i don't remember who sent it i'm so sorry about but this is ryan reynolds on the
00:09:28.900 smart list podcast and they ask they ask him how he's so positive all the time and you know how he
00:09:35.840 keeps himself being so positive and whatever and this is what he says and you do exude that sort
00:09:42.540 of positive energy but are there things that get you dead like what pisses you off what pisses you
00:09:47.440 off when does it get dark right you know what pisses me off yeah what pisses you no no i mean
00:09:52.140 i have i have a patchwork quilt of pitch black night within me that is you know i mean of course
00:09:57.740 we all have that it's like it keeps me warm at night yeah yeah you know that big hole with teeth
00:10:03.240 in star wars that is my soul no one's heard from blake for over 48 hours guys no no i i ate her
00:10:10.160 yeah his soul is like the black hole with teeth in star wars i think that says everything we need
00:10:19.380 to know about ryan and then they comment on this saying has anyone heard from blake lately and he's
00:10:25.060 like yeah i ate her i really wonder what their relationship is like i think there's a lot of
00:10:31.880 screaming going on in that house ryan reynolds yelling and yelling you can hear from the texts
00:10:38.920 and the emails that he's sending to people that he's yelling i'm sure he's doing voice to text
00:10:44.620 because his because his messages are so long anyways thank you shasta for sending me this
00:10:51.500 clip as well which is which explains exactly what i'm talking about here with hugh jackman
00:10:58.340 and ryan talking about blake lively and his kids blake lively could do so much better than ryan
00:11:07.080 Reynolds oh whoa whoa actually kind of I mean Jesus right I mean yeah especially lately
00:11:14.820 I could do better I'm staying right where I am because as a husband no better but as someone
00:11:23.380 as a co-parent she could do way better yeah I think so too I think so too I've introduced myself
00:11:28.400 it's really single parenting yeah at this point I feel like anything I feel alone out there
00:11:33.260 Yeah, the fact that Hugh Jackman is joking about the single parenting thing,
00:11:37.900 I think definitely Blake is a single parent.
00:11:41.120 Ryan is never home.
00:11:43.480 He is just flying everywhere, being away from his family as much as possible.
00:11:49.780 And I think he spends definitely more time with Hugh Jackman and Rob Mac
00:11:54.980 than he does with Blake and their kids.
00:11:58.220 You're punching in friendship right here.
00:12:00.800 100%.
00:12:01.800 Because I am there for you time after time after Cindy Lopper.
00:12:08.820 That's 100% true.
00:12:10.340 And I really give very little back.
00:12:11.740 No, nothing back.
00:12:12.980 Nothing back.
00:12:13.760 It's like a wishing well.
00:12:14.560 I just kept chucking money into it.
00:12:16.180 And all it does is make it a little bloop sound.
00:12:18.900 I compliment you a lot.
00:12:20.000 As its hungry face just devours a bank account.
00:12:22.920 Yes, you do.
00:12:23.460 You're very good with compliments.
00:12:24.340 I compliment you.
00:12:25.180 And now I also wonder when is there going to be a fallout between Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds?
00:12:31.280 I think it's a question of time of how much he can continue pushing Hugh here.
00:12:35.100 And I'm sure Hugh Jackman's publicist keeps telling him, like, stay away from Ryan.
00:12:41.680 It's really bad for your image.
00:12:43.660 It's really bad for business.
00:12:45.600 Please don't do any more collabs with him.
00:12:48.520 And Hugh, he's not listening because he is under the spell of Ryan and he wants to keep
00:12:54.520 Ryan happy.
00:12:55.160 Like the video I showed the other day of Hugh Jackman appearing at that Disney fan event
00:13:01.120 where it looked like Hugh Jackman was Ryan Reynolds hostage.
00:13:05.920 I feel their friendship.
00:13:07.540 There is something really, really strange going on there.
00:13:11.500 Anyways, let's talk about Jed Wallace's new filing and what the judge just did.
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00:14:57.080 As you know, Jed Wallace is the man that Blake Lively has accused
00:15:02.180 of being the brain behind the untraceable underground smear machine against her.
00:15:08.640 She added him to her lawsuit.
00:15:10.740 the judge said hey he can't be in this lawsuit because he lives in texas you have to sue him
00:15:15.280 over there so he was dismissed from blake lively's lawsuit then jed wallace sued blake lively in
00:15:20.840 texas and then the judge in texas said hey you can't sue blake lively in texas she lives in new
00:15:26.040 york you have to sue her over there then because of that dismissal of jed wallace lawsuit against
00:15:32.320 blake blake said hey i'm gonna claim attorney's fees here under this me too law because part
00:15:39.880 of my lawsuit was for sh although she never really believed that jed wallace that who she never even
00:15:48.380 met did ever sh her but she believed that because she spoke up about sh he was part of the retaliation
00:15:58.640 against her for that so that's why she could use this me too low against him and she's asked for
00:16:04.220 $800,000 from him. Last week, Jed Bollas said, hey, judge, I can't just give her $800,000. 0.87
00:16:12.220 She needs to sit down for a deposition because I have the right to interview her to see 0.93
00:16:17.220 if she actually believed the things she accused me of. He also pointed to the fact that Blake
00:16:24.520 said in her deposition that she never met him and that she didn't know anything about him.
00:16:30.060 she didn't even know what he looks like and she'd just been told by other people how he operates
00:16:36.340 she was told by stephanie jones by the way justin baldone's publicist how jed wallace is operating
00:16:43.760 and by her attorneys so her sources for this information are is also really vague she also
00:16:52.020 said in her deposition that she couldn't point to one single article that she thought was authored
00:16:58.240 by Jed Wallace. So all of these allegations are just based on Blake Lively's gut feeling. Now
00:17:05.540 Blake of course doesn't want to sit down for a deposition because we all know what happens when 0.99
00:17:10.040 she has to keep her story straight. She's not able to do that so she's trying to avoid that by 1.00
00:17:16.200 all means and her attorneys as always are fighting really hard for her. So they told the judge in
00:17:23.380 Texas Blake Lively is not going to sit down for another deposition because they already asked her
00:17:28.040 questions last year. And then his attorneys argued that back then we didn't know that Blake was going
00:17:34.520 to claim that we owed her attorney's fees due to this Me Too law. So of course we didn't ask her
00:17:41.700 about it. It hadn't happened yet. We asked her about other things, about her other allegations
00:17:46.980 against Jed Wallace. So we need more time with her because we need to have an opportunity to prove
00:17:54.900 that her allegations were false and she knew that they were false and that is called the malice
00:18:01.940 and yesterday they tried to add two more exhibits one of them is an email exchange between the
00:18:08.940 lawyers and the other one is additional pages from Blake Lively's deposition from a year ago
00:18:15.260 and they said to the judge hey judge you have to look at this because this proves our point
00:18:20.940 and it proves our point that we need to have a deposition here.
00:18:24.560 And then the judge said,
00:18:25.800 okay, I am allowing you to actually file these documents.
00:18:30.280 So now these documents are in here
00:18:32.180 and to me it looks like Jed Waller's arguments here are really good.
00:18:37.480 So now Blake has a huge dilemma here
00:18:40.280 because we all know why she wants these attorney's fees.
00:18:43.900 It's $800,000, which is nothing really for Blake and Ryan.
00:18:48.140 So why does she want to push for this?
00:18:50.320 and risk being deposed again to get these $800,000. 0.98
00:18:56.080 And the reason for that is obviously because she wants the headline.
00:19:00.180 Because if she gets any attorney's fees from Jed Wallace in her PR spin world, 0.89
00:19:07.700 she can tell people, look, there was a smear campaign
00:19:11.540 and he just admitted that there was one.
00:19:14.520 So he has to give me these attorney's fees.
00:19:17.060 So that headline is worth so much to her, but to get that headline now, she might have
00:19:25.300 to sit down and keep her story straight, which we know she's not able to.
00:19:31.220 So I find this situation really fascinating.
00:19:34.620 And another thing is that Jed Wallace appealed his lawsuit against Blake Lively.
00:19:40.680 He appealed to something called Fifth Circuit, and he told them, I know that this judge in
00:19:45.700 Texas said that Blake Lively does not belong in Texas and this lawsuit doesn't belong here.
00:19:51.100 But I'm appealing. You have to look at all the details again, because I think that this lawsuit
00:19:56.440 belongs in Texas because she accused me while I was living in Texas, whatever. There's a lot of
00:20:02.100 other reasons for that. But this appeal is still alive. We probably have to wait for a few more
00:20:08.760 months for the fifth circuit to make a decision but if they say okay this lawsuit should survive
00:20:16.140 then why should he pay attorney's fees for blake lively fighting that before the appeal is decided
00:20:23.040 this is all so messy but anyways as i said this is super important for blake for one reason only
00:20:30.700 and that is because she wants people magazine to write an article about it okay so i wanted to
00:20:35.620 mention this story as well because I thought it was really interesting how Neutrogena, how Neutrogena
00:20:40.560 now is in big trouble because of Hayden Panettiere. So Hayden was a spokesperson for Neutrogena from
00:20:50.200 2005 until 2015. That's 10 years. That's a really long time. She was connected to this brand. So in
00:20:59.680 Panettiere's memoir that she just released before her death, she claims that Neutrogena
00:21:07.560 ended their relationship after she spoke out about postpartum depression. At the time when
00:21:14.600 this book came out, Neutrogena just kept silent. They didn't comment on this. I don't understand
00:21:20.200 how these brands sometimes are thinking. Why would they not come out and say something about it?
00:21:25.800 did they feel guilty because now they certainly look very guilty and now people are encouraging
00:21:32.820 others to boycott the brand and according to this article she said on live with kelly and michael
00:21:40.180 that neutrogena cancelled my long-standing contract and it was yet another blow in a year
00:21:45.980 that had given almost nothing else so now it says here that fans are vowing to avenge peternier's
00:21:54.260 memory by boycotting the zit zapping brand at least according to outrage social media posts
00:22:02.820 and it says here on google trends the term nitrogena boycott has spiked over 5 000 percent
00:22:09.900 in three days on tiktok more than 70 000 people have called for a brand ban in various video
00:22:17.740 comments the skincare company did not respond to the post request for comments this is the scary
00:22:25.220 part about social media for brands and i don't know exactly what happened between neutrogena
00:22:31.620 and hayden and maybe there is a bigger story here but the fact that neutrogena has not come out and
00:22:38.140 commented on this and didn't say anything back when the memo was released that makes them look
00:22:44.460 so bad and now it's kind of too late to come out and say something they should have done it earlier
00:22:50.140 so it's going to be interesting to see how this affects the brand if this is just something right
00:22:54.840 now or if they actually have to deal with the backlash from this for a long time anyways that's
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