Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 19, 2026


Ganging Up Against Blake !!

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00:00:00.000 So there's something we don't know here of what happened with Selena Gomez and Blake Lively.
00:00:11.700 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Kersti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:16.440 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:21.200 Okay, so Taylor Swift is apparently throwing shade at Blake Lively using her BFF Selena Gomez.
00:00:29.200 And it seems like Blake is ready to speak out about her fallout with Taylor.
00:00:35.060 This PR war is getting really messy.
00:00:39.440 Also, the judge has ruled again, this time in another lawsuit that is connected to the Blake Lively lawsuit.
00:00:47.180 This is about the two publicists suing each other and Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties.
00:00:52.740 The judge has now said that by Monday, both parties have to file a lot of documents and unseal a lot of the information that they've been hiding from us for a while.
00:01:04.760 And let's talk about the irony here of Justin Baldoni's ex-publicist suing him and her ex-employee. 1.00
00:01:12.620 Because if it wasn't for this lawsuit, we might have never found out what a terrible boss Stephanie Jones is. 1.00
00:01:19.900 Talk about this Streisand effect.
00:01:21.740 And remember that post I spoke about a couple of days ago, this content creator who's an author and a survivor himself calling out Justin Baldoni in the company of these guys?
00:01:35.640 And I mentioned on my channel that someone should put a community note on that post and guess what? Someone did.
00:01:42.860 And we have to talk about Hayden Panettiere's mom, who's finally come out and commented on the passing of her daughter
00:01:50.520 and all the new facts that are surrounding this case, amongst other things, that her boyfriend, Brian Hickerson, was present in the apartment with her.
00:02:01.780 Still so many unanswered questions surrounding this tragic case.
00:02:06.480 Anyways, before I start, I have a message from Andy Signor over at Popcorn Planet.
00:02:11.680 he's saying that everyone keeps asking him when the documentary about the drama surrounding it
00:02:18.500 ends with us will be released he's been working on this for a really long time and he told me
00:02:23.220 there's some interests out there from possible distributors but in the meantime he's putting
00:02:28.380 together a multi-city tour to screen some of these episodes live and there will also be q a's
00:02:36.020 and special guests present and these screenings will take place in new york la chicago tampa
00:02:42.800 and houston is also on the table so if you're interested in getting access getting tickets or
00:02:48.900 getting on the waiting list for any of these events please visit the link in my description
00:02:53.640 i can't wait to watch that documentary and as you might know i'm a part of it i am interviewed by
00:02:59.300 Andy as part of the documentary as well. Anyways, let's get into it. So yesterday I spoke about
00:03:06.320 Blake Lively's tribute to Hayden Panettiere and Michelle Trachtenberg, where she posted on
00:03:12.820 Instagram story, be kind, you never know what people are going through. After I had published
00:03:19.600 the episode, I was like, oh, I forgot to mention one thing that really struck me while reading that,
00:03:24.560 which was that that post was all about Blake this was Blake's cry for help for people to be kind
00:03:32.680 to her she made herself the victim saying that you don't know what people are really going through
00:03:39.920 look at me you don't know what I'm going through be kind to me and as I said I forgot to mention
00:03:45.540 that yesterday and I think it's a valid point that Blake used this opportunity to pretend that
00:03:52.180 she cares for others which she obviously don't because if she did she wouldn't behave the way
00:03:58.060 she did and I was watching one of Elle's Rich videos this morning big shout out to her she
00:04:03.800 talked about this post too and mentioned how Blake Lively was weaponizing Justin Baldoni's
00:04:10.680 kindness on the sets you know using that against him basically and remember those text messages 0.66
00:04:17.100 when Blake called him a doofus clown
00:04:20.520 and accusing him of a set of toxic positivity
00:04:24.540 and that there was a culture of hugging on the set of the movie,
00:04:28.660 which to her was terrible.
00:04:31.260 And then she's asking us to be kind.
00:04:33.420 This makes Blake look so bad.
00:04:35.100 Anyways, let's get into this article in the Daily Mail.
00:04:37.820 This was interesting.
00:04:38.900 An insider has spoken to the Daily Mail here
00:04:42.020 and it says,
00:04:42.540 Taylor Swift's baby plans and brutal slap in the face for Blake. I think there's a lot going on
00:04:49.380 behind the scenes there with Blake and Taylor going after each other with these insiders and
00:04:54.580 sources in the press. And I think the reason is to put pressure on the other person not to say
00:05:00.220 anything. Anyways, let's get into this story about Taylor and Selena Gomez's close relationship.
00:05:07.980 It says that Taylor and Selena are very close.
00:05:11.180 They're like sisters, one insider.
00:05:14.260 Close to Swift, told the Daily Mail.
00:05:17.200 For almost 20 years, they've been there for each other on a personal and professional level.
00:05:23.080 Selena's always been someone Taylor can trust 100%.
00:05:26.800 They have a bond that's never been broken.
00:05:30.900 So deep is their bond, it is perhaps understandable that they now want to experience motherhood together.
00:05:37.080 and have made it clear that they would be godparents to their respective future children.
00:05:42.720 If this is not a slap in the face to Blake Lively, I don't know what is.
00:05:47.060 It really comes across, I think, that Taylor is still bitter about what happened,
00:05:51.660 and she wants to put Blake in her place.
00:05:54.620 And keep in mind, Blake has no celebrity friends left.
00:05:59.720 No one's come out to support Blake Lively.
00:06:02.300 Like, where is Salma Hayek?
00:06:03.820 Her close friends was bragging about Blake Lively in a speech she did for her.
00:06:08.840 They were photographed having dinner together like one and a half years ago.
00:06:12.600 Where's Salma Hayek?
00:06:13.780 And where is Emily Blunt?
00:06:16.060 Also a very close friend of Blake Lively, who came to support her, by the way.
00:06:21.140 Remember that at another Simple Favour premiere in New York?
00:06:25.480 No sign of any friendship there either.
00:06:28.360 So to me, this is a power game from Taylor to show again,
00:06:32.280 Blake how many powerful friends she has and how she still has celebrity friends supporting her
00:06:39.480 and they also mentioned several times in this article that Selena Gomez never really liked
00:06:45.740 Blake and they would never hang out together and whenever Taylor was inviting people to her big
00:06:52.620 fourth of July parties or NFL games or birthday bashes those events were always just attended by
00:07:00.980 Lively or Gomez so they were never there together and they're mentioning here that there's no
00:07:08.700 photographs of the three of them together and if Selena's been Taylor's best friend for 20 years
00:07:14.920 it would be very natural that Blake Lively would be in some kind of photos with Selena Gomez and
00:07:22.240 Taylor. They say here that the only time Selena actually mentioned Blake was in an interview with
00:07:28.660 Elle in 2016 when she was asked two of her friends she would trade her with if she had the chance
00:07:35.380 and then she named Lively and she said I wish she was my friend but she's not my friend Blake Lively
00:07:41.300 I've never met her but I just love her hair I think she's got beautiful effortless hair I think
00:07:46.320 she's super beachy she likes her hair so she wants to be her friend I mean okay and Daily Mail is
00:07:53.080 saying here it would seem that those feelings however have warmed with the daily mail exposing
00:07:58.700 their apparent bad blood in april 2024 at the time insiders claimed that the two were not friends
00:08:05.960 didn't mix and were constantly avoiding run-ins with each other so there's something we don't
00:08:13.420 know here of what happened with selena gomez and blake lively and here a second insider is insisting
00:08:22.160 that Swift choosing to make Gomez the godmother of her children
00:08:25.340 wouldn't be done to shade Blake.
00:08:27.860 Taylor is very confident in her friendship with Selena
00:08:30.700 and doesn't worry about having any falling out.
00:08:33.860 If Selena has kids, Taylor knows for a fact
00:08:37.220 that she would be close to them all forever.
00:08:41.940 Another little slap in the face for Blake, if you ask me.
00:08:45.800 Well, I think the reason why Taylor's PR team dropped this story here
00:08:51.300 is to throw shade at Blake, obviously, while saying in here, like, it's not to throw shade
00:08:57.440 at Blake at all. But, you know, we just thought we'd mention that people might think so. I mean,
00:09:04.100 and here they have a quote from what Taylor said about her BFF Selena. There's always been this
00:09:09.180 quality of sisterhood. And I don't say that in a basic way. I knew from when I met her,
00:09:14.560 I would always have her back. In my life, I have the ability to forgive people who have hurt me.
00:09:19.400 but I don't know if I can forgive someone who hurts her.
00:09:24.160 And it says here that both Taylor and Selena
00:09:26.280 are looking forward to having children at the same time.
00:09:29.460 They're also mentioning Selena has fertility issues,
00:09:33.420 but they're also saying that this is a good timing
00:09:35.320 for both of them to have children.
00:09:38.140 What I found interesting about this story,
00:09:40.180 apart from all the things that I said,
00:09:42.040 is that there was another story that was published last week
00:09:46.820 in the outlet called Closer Online, which is a UK outlet.
00:09:52.620 It is a gossip rag.
00:09:54.440 But anyways, we know that these publicists plant stories everywhere 0.66
00:09:57.700 because we've learned that from Blake Lively's lawsuit.
00:10:00.280 So anyways, I think that the story from the Daily Mail here
00:10:04.580 is kind of a response to this story,
00:10:07.860 where it says Taylor Swift's newlywed bliss under threat
00:10:11.780 as Blake Lively gets ready to speak out on their fallout.
00:10:16.820 And it says here that if there's anything we know about Taylor Swift is that she's very much
00:10:21.140 like to be excluded from this narrative, talking about the lawsuit. It's the line she first uttered
00:10:26.800 10 years ago after being embroiled in a public spot with Kim Kardashian and then husband Kanye
00:10:31.680 West. And it's the policy she's been strictly following yet again when it comes to her ex-best
00:10:37.340 friend, Blake Lively. And they say here, with that being said, we are hearing that Blake is feeling
00:10:42.860 anxious. She and Justin reached an out-of-court settlement in May with neither one ordered to
00:10:50.300 pay damages to the other. Since then she's been waiting for the dust to settle but the fact that
00:10:56.280 Justin reclaimed his public voice has got her feeling nervous about what more he has to say
00:11:02.280 and with that in mind she's prepared to answer back. And they're saying here that Taylor according
00:11:08.760 to this insider is absolutely fuming over what this could mean when it comes to her unwanted part 0.95
00:11:16.020 in the never-ending war of words. She's already brutally and demonstrably cut Blake out of her
00:11:22.940 life, but having Justin and Blake in turn speak up will inevitably mean her name gets dragged back
00:11:30.440 into the mix. What's worse, with Blake feeling loose-lipped, we're told Taylor's worried she
00:11:36.920 might decide to speak even more directly about her former bff having been top dog in taylor's
00:11:43.360 inner circle for so long you can be sure she knows where all the bodies are buried and with nothing
00:11:50.060 to lose who knows what she could share yeah that's true she has nothing to lose at this point and
00:11:56.260 that's what makes blake lively really dangerous to everyone because she has nothing to lose she has
00:12:02.860 no career she has no friends she has no goodwill in hollywood at all and she has no sympathy from
00:12:10.880 people so yeah she has nothing to lose and i also say here that the longer blake is vilified the
00:12:17.440 more likely it is that she'll decide to have her say and explain everything she's been through
00:12:23.360 says an insider close to the former friends it wouldn't be about making money it would simply be
00:12:29.520 about clearing her name and telling her side of the nightmare for taylor though that would be a
00:12:35.460 worst case scenario because she's incredibly sensitive about any private details coming out
00:12:41.080 that she hasn't approved and then someone says that blake would never go all scorched earth on
00:12:46.960 her but after so many years of friendship she knows a whole lot about her and the prospect of
00:12:54.160 any of that becoming public would be an absolute disaster for Taylor if that happens and they're
00:13:00.380 saying here that it would be different if Justin was content to let this fade away but based on
00:13:05.880 what he and his wife said it seems pretty clear that he isn't ready to do that and Blake's only
00:13:12.960 and Blake is only human so of course she's going to want to defend herself or even better get ahead
00:13:19.600 of them and tell her side of the story. I feel like we already heard her side of the story. She
00:13:26.000 spent like 167 pages I think. I don't remember how long her lawsuit was but it was long and she told
00:13:33.620 her story there and in the New York Times. We've heard her story so if she's gonna sit down and do
00:13:39.140 a tell-all interview I don't think that's gonna happen. I think that her and Ryan are gonna
00:13:45.680 to continue what they're doing now by shading people with little easter eggs on instagram and
00:13:52.640 go behind their backs and try to ruin their careers and lives behind their backs because that's
00:13:58.860 how they like to work we've seen that anyways let's get to these new unsealings this is quite 0.88
00:14:04.340 interesting as i mentioned in the beginning here stephanie jones sued jennifer abel and justin
00:14:10.700 Baldoni and the Wayfair parties and that lawsuit has been asleep for a little bit but now things
00:14:16.560 are really starting to happen and the judge just ruled that a lot of documents will be unsealed by
00:14:21.780 Monday. As you know Stephanie Jones used to represent Justin Baldoni and then her employee
00:14:29.780 Jennifer Abel told her that I'm leaving your company you're a terrible boss and I want to
00:14:34.680 start my own company and I'm bringing Justin Baldoni with me and when that happened Stephanie
00:14:38.820 Jones took Jennifer Abel's phone and kept it and then allegedly she started reading her text
00:14:45.180 messages and she found a way to contact Blake Lively and said hey I have some great information
00:14:51.020 here that's going to be explosive and she was thinking if I give that to Blake I will get
00:14:55.980 revenge on my ex-employee who left my company. Anyways what's going to be interesting here for
00:15:03.280 the most part is to see the communication surrounding how that phone ended up in blake
00:15:09.360 lively's hands another thing that happened yesterday was that the wayfair parties filed
00:15:13.960 a motion to dismiss the defamation claims against 10 joe does i mean these things are so ridiculous
00:15:23.200 to me but anyway stephanie jones also sued 10 anonymous people for defaming her because she
00:15:29.240 didn't know who exactly was behind this defaming but she was pointing at two websites that someone 0.56
00:15:35.920 created about her one was called stephaniejonesleaks.com and the other one was called
00:15:41.300 stephaniejoneslies.com she claims that these websites were created to smear her but she could
00:15:48.920 not prove who was behind these two websites so she decided to just sue anonymous people 1.00
00:15:55.800 and then afterwards she decided to throw melissa nathan the crisis manager that justin bold only
00:16:02.940 hired into that mix and say that i want to sue her as well because i think that she's behind this
00:16:09.120 and then the judge said too late you can't add her this is over and that claim was basically
00:16:15.340 tossed out but apparently stephanie jones just left it open still i don't know all the details
00:16:21.600 here but what I do find interesting is everything surrounding this smear campaign against Stephanie
00:16:28.000 Jones because if you weren't in Hollywood and even people in Hollywood didn't know who Stephanie
00:16:32.600 Jones was so the funny thing here is by doing this and by suing everyone like Stephanie Jones
00:16:38.260 is doing here she makes everyone aware of these websites and people are asking why would they make 0.87
00:16:44.600 these websites about her. And something we have to keep in mind here is that if these websites
00:16:51.260 were only posting true things about Stephanie Jones, that's legal. So for Stephanie Jones to
00:17:00.500 actually prove that these websites were smearing her, she has to prove that the content or the
00:17:07.780 facts on these websites were false and that the people who actually put that information there
00:17:14.220 knew that it was false. And I think in general, that would be problematic for her, because we
00:17:21.160 also have an unsealed text exchange now, which is very interesting as well. And we see the
00:17:28.420 communication here between people at TAG, the crisis management company that Justin Baldoni
00:17:35.120 hired, and they're all talking about this article that's about to be published in the Business
00:17:41.880 Insider. So Business Insider did a story about Stephanie Jones talking about how horrible she
00:17:49.280 is to her employees and to her clients. And that story, it's still online if you want to read it.
00:17:57.120 And in this text exchange that was just out, and in this text exchange that we can see in the
00:18:03.480 docket, we can look at all the people who were willing to give their side of the story here.
00:18:09.200 There are so many people mentioned in this text exchange that were happy to go off the record.
00:18:17.460 People wanted to be anonymous for obvious reason, but to talk to this reporter about the toxic work environment that Stephanie Jones created at Jones Works.
00:18:27.480 They also talk about, funny enough, how Stephanie Jones had blocked people like Chris Hemsworth, publicist, was one of them, and other people in the industry. 0.92
00:18:38.600 and also people close to Tom Brady it seems like here and they were all blocked on by Jones works
00:18:45.000 on Instagram and it was so funny because I also realized that I am blocked by Jones works on
00:18:51.520 Instagram I've been to that web I've been to their Instagram maybe twice just to check out what
00:18:56.380 they're up to so I think Stephanie Jones is pretty paranoid I mean the list of people here who are
00:19:01.320 willing to talk about Stephanie Jones with this reporter is mind-blowing to me they're also talking
00:19:07.560 about getting people close to the rock here he was also treated poorly I think by her company
00:19:14.360 I haven't looked through all of these texts but by just a glance here it's so obvious that she had
00:19:21.600 so many people disliking her in the industry and we the public would never have found out
00:19:29.740 if it wasn't for her lawsuit talk about the Streisand effect I wonder why Chris Hemsworth
00:19:36.760 publicist is blocked by the way and also people working with giselle tom brady's ex-wife they're
00:19:43.960 blocked by stephanie jones and tom brady partner blocked by stephanie jones yeah and also that
00:19:50.300 doesn't prove any smearing keep that in mind this just proves that there was a story in the works
00:19:56.880 to expose the toxic work environments and that has nothing to do with smearing whatsoever so yeah 1.00
00:20:03.020 Bad, bad idea for Stephanie Jones to file this lawsuit. 1.00
00:20:07.120 And keep in mind also that if it wasn't for her,
00:20:10.400 Blake Lively would never have been able to sue Justin Baldoni.
00:20:14.600 So none of this mess would have happened.
00:20:17.420 And the irony of her coming after these people,
00:20:21.380 accusing them for defaming her when we know what she's responsible for. 1.00
00:20:27.760 Yeah, epic level stupid. 1.00
00:20:30.700 it how funny is it that she works in pr and she obviously has no idea what she's doing anyways 0.98
00:20:37.480 as i mentioned in the beginning here we got a new community note so it's harry james this guy his
00:20:46.020 name is harrison james i think he's on instagram and it really upset me i spoke about this a couple
00:20:52.080 of days ago that he put justin baldoni and johnny that for that matter in the same category as all
00:20:59.420 these guys these criminals with criminal records some of them are in jail and he's like oh look
00:21:06.420 we can't you never know who the abuser is because sometimes they wear faces of talent success and
00:21:11.740 power well guess what someone put a community note on it and now it says that this image contains
00:21:17.760 legally or factually incorrect categorizations Johnny Depp won his 2022 defamation trial
00:21:24.400 regarding abuse allegations and a UK court ruled Amber Heard defamed him.
00:21:30.140 I think that was a US court, by the way.
00:21:32.020 But anyways, Justin Baldoni faced civil lawsuits
00:21:34.980 regarding workplace misconduct allegations on the set,
00:21:38.320 but he was never criminally charged.
00:21:41.160 A judge gutted the majority of claims against him.
00:21:44.300 He and Blake Lively reached a settlement in May 2026.
00:21:48.220 And it also says George Santos' criminal convictions
00:21:50.680 are financial fraud and identity theft.
00:21:53.140 yeah he's just putting all these people together here to make it look like everyone is in the same
00:21:58.180 category so i love that someone actually put a community note on it and thanks to jeff as well
00:22:05.180 for correcting the photo for everyone to see who should be on the two first spots on this list and
00:22:13.000 here we go thank you jeff for sending me this i think this is a much better picture anyways let's
00:22:19.260 get to Hayden Panettiere here I wanted to give you guys a little bit of an update so now her
00:22:24.980 mother Leslie Vogel or Vogel has come out and by breaking her silence she is now blasting Brian
00:22:32.780 Hickerson Hayden's boyfriend and she say about him this person in her life that we have been
00:22:39.120 trying to get rid of for quite some time was with her at her death and that was Brian Hickerson
00:22:44.340 there is a lot of history in the past that brian has enabled hayden many times and this is why her
00:22:50.860 father and i had been concerned for a long time about him fogel claimed panettier and hickerson
00:22:58.380 were still together at the time of her death and said she always knew they were together
00:23:02.820 it's so interesting to me how her mom now is coming out blaming hickerson i mean hickerson
00:23:09.400 is a terrible terrible person it seems from everything that I've learned about him but as
00:23:14.820 you know Hayden didn't say many nice words about her mother and they weren't even in contact anymore
00:23:20.600 and I have to say when you're the mother and both of your children passes away both for reasons
00:23:27.260 connected to addiction and then you have the audacity to come out and blame the boyfriend
00:23:35.980 I mean, yeah, I just want to blame everyone here.
00:23:38.500 Why was no one there for Hayden?
00:23:40.580 Why didn't she have any support around her?
00:23:44.100 Where was her manager, agents?
00:23:45.800 Where were her friends?
00:23:47.540 They must have seen this happening.
00:23:49.140 And as some people mentioned now,
00:23:51.080 when you watch the latest interviews with her,
00:23:53.680 it was so obvious that she was not okay.
00:23:55.920 And this is the pattern we keep seeing in Hollywood. 0.65
00:23:58.300 We just saw it with Ariana Grande as well.
00:24:01.040 No one stepping in until everyone called it out 0.99
00:24:04.800 and said hey look at her she's not well then all of a sudden someone was like oh yeah we she's 1.00
00:24:10.600 gonna take a step back but first she has to finish her tour because she's the money machine here yeah
00:24:16.840 it's so sad and here's another quote from her mom by the way saying i think hayden was an amazingly
00:24:22.260 talented person in so many departments and i think young people who grow up in the entertainment
00:24:27.140 industry it is she said it's a struggle and it's a very challenging industry and it's not unusual
00:24:33.540 for them to sadly find the wrong path well then it's your responsibility as a mother to try and
00:24:40.240 save them anyways i think it becomes very difficult to be true to yourself and i think
00:24:45.400 hayden sadly lost her way and i wish it was different i wish she had stayed true to herself
00:24:51.120 because she had many incredible attributes that doesn't sound like something coming from a mom
00:24:57.740 i mean why didn't she come out and talk about how much she loved her instead of talking about
00:25:02.920 her talent which i think says everything about her mom because that's the only thing she cared
00:25:08.540 about her talent she had no contact with her own daughter my heart bleeds for hayden and the things
00:25:17.240 that she has experienced in her life there's also new details here about her boyfriend by the way
00:25:23.600 so now we know that he was at the scene with his brother sack but it seems like none of them were
00:25:31.920 the ones calling 911 because as I said yesterday it was a female voice there was a female who called
00:25:37.300 911 so what were these two guys doing when she called 111 and why who was she why was she there
00:25:43.500 he says here that Hickerson and his brother Zach witnessed her final moments in the Judson
00:25:48.680 Miloft's apartment complex according to a newly released report from the Greenville
00:25:54.300 police department an officer at the scene said sack was very emotional the brother of brian
00:26:01.060 as he saw parademics perform cpr but added hickerson did not show any emotion until his
00:26:09.480 partner was declared dead then brian apparently showed the police a bag of her medication and it
00:26:16.560 says here that the heavily redacted police report said officers arrived at 1 50 p.m
00:26:21.540 and officers found multiple EMS and firemen performing CPR
00:26:26.040 for an extended amount of time on the actress
00:26:29.320 who did not seem to have any obvious physical reasons to be unresponsive.
00:26:34.480 So now the question is how long was she in that state
00:26:36.980 before someone called 911?
00:26:38.900 This was happening in the middle of the day.
00:26:40.640 It's not like something that happened in the middle of the night.
00:26:42.820 Yeah, there's so much shady stuff going on here.
00:26:45.660 And also what Hayden has said about her boyfriend before,
00:26:49.800 he's been abusive towards her and he was arrested in may 2019 and court records show he was charged
00:26:58.160 with injury as spouse or girlfriend he pleaded no contest to the allegation in april of 2021
00:27:05.240 and he was sentenced to 45 days in county jail and four years probation so his probation was just
00:27:13.920 over I guess in 2025 and here there's a quote from him talking about Hayden's mom and he said
00:27:22.340 back then in this interview I do have some things to say about Hayden's mom Hayden's mother is by 0.89
00:27:29.640 far one of the worst people I've ever met in my life I just can't with her she's terrible
00:27:37.580 i mean can you imagine being surrounded by these people poor poor hayden this is just so tragic
00:27:51.220 and sadly this is not the last time something like this is going to happen and the fact that
00:27:57.680 people keep ignoring all the signs and no one's really asking questions because if you ask
00:28:01.820 questions like people did with Ariana Grande then you're called out for not being supportive
00:28:07.600 and it's interesting when you think about Matthew Perry as well and what happened to him
00:28:12.020 how he was just months before he passed away he was on talk shows and he had also released
00:28:19.540 his memoir and he was on that reunion show with friends and everyone was like something is off
00:28:25.540 with Matthew Perry here and someone came out a spokesperson came out and said oh he just went to
00:28:31.080 the dentist so that's why he was acting really weird and everyone's like no he's on something
00:28:37.900 and then of course if you are suggesting that someone's on something then you are the bad
00:28:42.960 person anyways that's it for me today you guys thank you so much for watching and if you haven't
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