Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 18, 2026


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00:00:00.000 Where was her boyfriend? Where is he now? Why were there two ambulances of the scene?
00:00:11.260 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk, I'm Serge Tiflor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice
00:00:16.220 of reason in a town built on delusion. Okay, so there are a lot of new details resurfacing
00:00:22.540 surrounding the sudden passing of Hayden Panettiere. People are now asking, where was her boyfriend?
00:00:29.240 Where is he now? Why were there two ambulances at the scene? Who actually found her? Who called
00:00:37.480 911? And who was the used Narcan administrator to? Yeah, let's look at that. And let's also look
00:00:43.960 at Hayden's tragic life and how she came out recently addressing all her struggles and saying
00:00:51.660 that she was looking forward to a new chapter.
00:00:55.500 I can feel all the possibility,
00:00:59.200 all the possibilities,
00:01:00.880 all the exciting possibilities.
00:01:03.160 I feel like I have a lot more life to live.
00:01:06.780 So how could it go so wrong?
00:01:09.660 A lot of celebrities have come out
00:01:11.660 with tributes to Hayden,
00:01:14.240 one of them being Blake Lively.
00:01:16.780 And now people are reacting very strongly
00:01:18.860 to Blake's language,
00:01:20.220 begging all of us to be kind because you never know what others are going through yeah Blake
00:01:26.480 asking people to be kind we're not buying it and now the internet is on fire again let's get into
00:01:34.060 it so let's talk about Blake Lively first here who urged people to be kind in a tribute to Hayden
00:01:42.460 Penetier and Michelle Trachtenberg as you know Michelle Trachtenberg also passed away last year
00:01:49.580 way too early and back then Blake paid a tribute to her on her Instagram story making it look like
00:01:57.920 the two of them were close or were friends whatsoever and then everyone was like you know
00:02:03.080 Blake you weren't even following each other on Instagram so all of a sudden now you're pretending
00:02:09.360 that you were close anyways yesterday she paid a tribute to Hayden and Michelle together because
00:02:17.420 both of them were in a movie together called Ice Princess and Blake was pointing out that both of
00:02:22.600 them have now passed and what people were reacting to here was the caption she used on this tribute
00:02:30.480 to the two of them where she said be kind you never know what others are going through then
00:02:38.180 she adds thank you to both these women for all the joy you brought so many okay so why are people
00:02:45.000 upset with Blake Lively. I think for obvious reasons that she's asking people to be kind.
00:02:51.080 I think particularly that's interesting because no one hasn't really been kind about this news.
00:02:57.700 It's not like people are coming after Hayden or saying anything mean about her. Everyone I've
00:03:05.520 seen everywhere are very sympathetic and empathetic towards her because she's been so open about her
00:03:11.460 struggles so everyone just thinks this is such a tragic tragic story and here Blake Lively is
00:03:18.960 telling people to be kind when I read this in the Daily Mail where their title was Blake Lively
00:03:24.380 urges fans to be kind in touching tribute to Hayden Panettiere and Michelle Trachtenberg I was
00:03:31.400 like okay I need to read the comments on this and so I did and I think for Daily Mail to actually
00:03:38.600 put this as the title of the story they were really going for rage bait here and I'll just
00:03:44.580 read a couple of the comments for you guys here's one saying oh now we're concerned about what other
00:03:50.080 people might be going through I see what you're doing here Blake using Hayden and Michelle as
00:03:55.420 props for your public rehabilitation is sick you are so spectacularly poorly positioned to be
00:04:02.800 lecturing the rest of humanity about being kind. Read the room. Another one says, wow, she's telling
00:04:10.440 people to be kind when she's attempting to use the tragic circumstances of these two women's deaths
00:04:16.300 as an opportunity to rehabilitate her image. Another one says, Blake is using the death of
00:04:22.640 Hayden as an opportunity to lecture others about being kind after she accused an innocent man of 1.00
00:04:28.600 sh what an insufferable and tactless idiots yeah i couldn't agree more with this comment section 1.00
00:04:36.260 actually blake should just be quiet now because whatever she does is going to backfire on her 1.00
00:04:43.080 and this is another example of that okay so let's get into hayden panetti here and what happened to
00:04:51.160 her so what we know so far is that she flew from los angeles to south carolina on saturday with her
00:04:59.000 on and off boyfriend brian hickerson brian hickerson has a bad reputation he's a bad bad
00:05:07.220 boyfriend and they had a very turbulent relationship now they were obviously on again
00:05:13.360 According to TMZ, Brian was living in this apartment with his brother.
00:05:19.140 At 1.51 p.m. on Sunday, someone called 911.
00:05:23.760 The police described the caller as an acquaintance.
00:05:29.020 And other reports are saying here that it was an unnamed woman who actually called.
00:05:34.820 So that means that it wasn't Brian, her on-and-off boyfriend,
00:05:39.200 or Brian's brother who actually found her or made this call.
00:05:44.340 In the 911 call, it was referred to as a cardiac arrest at first,
00:05:49.040 and then it was referred to as an overdose, and they said CPR in progress.
00:05:55.060 Spawn, in place of Medic 29, Aisley Bridge Road, overdose, CPR is in progress.
00:06:01.280 So the 911 call was at 1.51, and then she was pronounced dead at 2.32 p.m.
00:06:07.960 So around 40 minutes after, I'm guessing she was found.
00:06:13.140 So a lot of people are questioning now
00:06:15.560 why there were two ambulances outside of the apartment.
00:06:20.340 Who was the other ambulance for?
00:06:22.840 No one actually left in an ambulance.
00:06:26.000 Hayden's body later left in the coroner's vehicle.
00:06:30.780 So no one was transported in these two ambulances.
00:06:34.420 And here's what I find interesting.
00:06:36.000 no one has heard from her boyfriend yet he has not come out publicly and said anything
00:06:42.200 we don't know if he was there and where is his brother why is there no information about that
00:06:49.260 well what we do know is that the police are they're not suspicious of any foul play here
00:06:55.500 so they're not accusing him of anything there was no distress on her body so yeah so at this point
00:07:03.020 That's all we know. But we also know that they found a used Narcan dispenser on a mattress.
00:07:10.860 So someone had tried to use this. That's what you use when someone has OD'd and you're trying to
00:07:16.440 bring them back to life again. So someone had tried to use that. And why would you have something
00:07:22.060 like that laying around in an apartment? I don't know. We also don't know who that was used on.
00:07:28.260 Was it used on Hayden or someone else?
00:07:31.160 I just saw an interview that TMZ did with Brian Hickerson just a few months ago.
00:07:36.580 I just wanted to share a small clip of what he sounds like in this interview.
00:07:42.320 If you listen to the way he talks, I was just like, okay, this guy is bad, bad news.
00:07:49.540 Hayden Benatieri is the sweetest thing in the world.
00:07:54.080 it's not about who you spend saturday night with it's who you spend all day sunday with
00:08:03.540 and hayden pentier is a sunday girl do you think it's better for her to not be with you
00:08:11.360 i think that hayden is one of the most talented people i've ever met in my life
00:08:18.580 and I would be an idiot not to walk away from her
00:08:23.960 and let her flourish in her career. 0.97
00:08:28.180 So we probably wouldn't be good together.
00:08:33.780 Yeah, as you can hear, he was even saying it himself
00:08:36.340 that he is bad news for Hayden and he shouldn't be with her.
00:08:41.560 And he also said that she's the Sunday kind of girl
00:08:44.420 and then she passes on a Sunday.
00:08:47.000 i'm sure that's a coincidence but when listening to this guy you feel like okay what is he on i'm
00:08:53.240 sorry but that is not a normal person with a normal voice this guy is on something so as you
00:08:58.880 know hayden just released her memoir and she talked about it on talk shows she did interviews
00:09:05.140 about it she was very open about her past struggles she struggled with addiction with depression
00:09:11.580 with postpartum as well as you know she felt she couldn't care for her daughter so her daughter
00:09:17.480 who's now 11 years old was living with her ex-fiance in Ukraine there was a custody battle
00:09:24.640 going on but at the end Hayden decided that she would let her daughter go because she felt that
00:09:30.320 was what was best for her I can't even imagine for a mother to make a decision like that of course
00:09:37.060 she loved her daughter, but she also knew that she could not take care of her.
00:09:42.400 So after she gave birth, which was a very traumatic birth, she developed a very severe
00:09:48.100 postpartum depression.
00:09:49.380 And she talked about how she struggled emotionally to connect with her baby as well, and increasingly
00:09:55.940 just used alcohol to cope with all her mixed emotions.
00:10:00.560 She felt hopeless.
00:10:01.860 She felt that the walls were closing in on her.
00:10:04.560 And she also had an old neck injury.
00:10:07.060 that was increasingly painful.
00:10:09.540 So she began using opioids to deal with the pain
00:10:12.980 and then her tolerance for that increased extremely quickly.
00:10:16.460 And then she was caught in this cycle between alcohol and opioids.
00:10:19.800 Then another tragedy hit in 2023
00:10:22.960 when she lost her younger brother, Janssen Panettiere.
00:10:28.180 We also know that he had struggled with addiction
00:10:31.300 and Hayden had tried to get him into rehab several times.
00:10:35.660 She felt guilty about that, that she wasn't successful in helping him.
00:10:40.620 And he passed away in 2023, just three years ago, when he was 28 years old.
00:10:46.440 Hayden has talked about this in interviews, how she felt she lost half of her soul
00:10:50.360 when her only sibling passed away.
00:10:54.220 Hayden also struggled with a lot of back pain in the recent months.
00:10:58.400 She was shot by paparazzi at the airport one time when she was wearing crushes.
00:11:03.240 and she was saying she had problems with a lot of pinched nerves and according to page six a friend
00:11:08.720 of hers or a hairdresser said that she was she's been suffering from severe back pain and mobility
00:11:14.820 problems lately and she found it difficult to move her legs she also said in an interview that she
00:11:21.140 was worried that she would get paralyzed we also know her dad has come out publicly he's devastating
00:11:26.800 over this loss we haven't heard from her mom yet as far as i know and we all but we know that she
00:11:32.260 did have a very troubled relationship with her mom who is the person who got her into acting
00:11:37.680 before she was even one year old and she said many times that her mom was more like a boss than a mom
00:11:44.080 to her and when she confronted her mom saying you know i want to have a mom i don't want to have a
00:11:50.120 boss i want you to be my mom again then her mom said you owe me i mean that's so sad she said
00:11:57.060 earlier this year that she did have a great relationship with her father but she's also
00:12:02.820 talked about how her mom and dad fought so much while she was growing up and her dad was actually
00:12:08.240 arrested for spousal battery back in 2008 and he had to complete a 52-week DV treatment program.
00:12:17.240 Her mom and dad divorced back in 2012. Hayden's also come out and talked about how she was used
00:12:23.520 and abused in Hollywood how in one incident she was on a yacht once and this female asked her to
00:12:30.620 go downstairs at the yacht and sleep with this man who was there and she did it because she felt like
00:12:38.160 oh I have to do what the grown-ups are telling me to do I think she was like 18 years old when that
00:12:43.200 happened and something similar happened with an Oscar winner actor she talked about that too she
00:12:50.520 didn't name any names but it was very clear that as a very young actress she had seen a lot yeah
00:12:58.200 she said in interviews that she was just used to doing what grown-ups told her to do so she thought
00:13:04.000 that's what she had to do because all her life she felt like she had to make her mother happy
00:13:10.200 and the only way she could do that was to do what she told her to do and to be successful and to act
00:13:16.680 Her ex-fiance, who is the father of her 11-year-old daughter, posted on Instagram and said that our family is going through a time of profound shock and grief.
00:13:28.100 The announcement of Hayden's tragic death saddens me deeply.
00:13:31.180 She left this world far too soon.
00:13:32.900 Hayden was, although no longer my partner, an important part of my life and the mother of our daughter, Kaya.
00:13:39.180 She built an incredible career through immense talent while also facing the darker side of a
00:13:45.560 very demanding industry. Nothing will erase the times we shared or the place we had in our lives.
00:13:52.500 To our daughter Kaya, I will always speak of her mother with respect and make sure she remembers
00:13:57.340 the person she was. I extend my deepest condolences to Hayden's parents, her friends and her fans who
00:14:03.520 are also grieving today. Young and talented people like Hayden should not leave this world
00:14:08.360 so soon i ask everyone to please respect our family's feelings and privacy during this
00:14:13.140 incredibly difficult time for now this is all i wish to say thank you to everyone who is
00:14:18.380 supporting my family and expressing their sincere condolences best easy rest easy hayden
00:14:24.120 may you find eternal peace i finally feel like i have shaken off all of this this darkness and
00:14:36.200 this negativity and that means that I've closed one door and another door is opened and I can
00:14:46.500 feel it opened and I can feel all the possibility, all the possibilities, all the exciting
00:14:55.780 possibilities. I feel like I have a lot more life to live. Yes, another tragic Hollywood story there.
00:15:04.100 I'm so sad on behalf of all the people that were close to her that loved her her family her friends
00:15:11.040 all her fans anyways I'll keep you posted when we learn something new about what actually happened
00:15:16.520 on Sunday who was there why were there two ambulances all these things that I found a
00:15:21.800 little weird I'm sure we're going to get answers soon and in the meantime take care of yourself
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