Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Major BACKLASH After Video !!

00:00:00.000 Yeah, the New York Times buried Blake Lively for good in Hollywood.

00:00:09.160 Hi and welcome to Blossom Talk. I'm Sæstig Flår, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:13.540 and your voice of reason in a town built on the illusion. I was thinking this weekend,

00:00:20.020 when I wasn't watching the World Cup, by the way, because of course I was. And of course,

00:00:23.420 I'm so upset that Norway is no longer a part of the competition. And of course,

00:00:27.960 I'm just as obsessed with Erling Haaland as everyone else out there right now.

00:00:33.360 If you haven't watched the World Cup, don't mind that comment.

00:00:35.900 But anyways, this weekend I was thinking about that headline in the New York Times.

00:00:39.860 The headline of the hit piece they did on Justin Baldoni on behalf of Blake Lively.

00:00:45.580 We can bury anyone.

00:00:48.020 Isn't that ironic that the New York Times had that headline?

00:00:52.500 And what they did was exactly that.

00:00:56.400 They buried Blake Lively and her husband is breeding through a straw at the moment.

00:01:03.120 I just feel like this whole circle of karma is coming to a full and it is really amusing to me.

00:01:09.940 Yeah, the New York Times buried Blake Lively for good in Hollywood.

00:01:14.440 Also in this episode, I have to talk about some new information that I got from my insider

00:01:20.000 regarding how Hollywood wants Justin Baldoni back.

00:01:25.020 Also, Blake and Ryan are super busy planting new rumors online

00:01:29.960 that Blake was invited to the wedding, to Taylor Swift's wedding,

00:01:34.240 but she decided not to go because she didn't want to take the attention away from Taylor.

00:01:39.840 This is so hilarious.

00:01:42.420 Apart from that, a lot of outlets have reacted to the video of Justin Baldoni

00:01:46.840 and Emily, his wife, that I talked about last week. 0.98

00:01:49.780 And NBC had this really stupid headline saying, 0.96

00:01:52.700 heartfelt or creepy Justin Baldoni video after Blake's lively legal battle divides PR experts 0.97

00:02:00.520 big spoiler alert here the one that called Justin Baldoni's video creepy used to represent

00:02:06.620 Harvey Weinstein also we have to talk about the update in this Jones versus Abel case

00:02:13.400 Stephanie Jones as you know also sued Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties and her former

00:02:19.600 employee, Jennifer Abel. And now there's a little update in this case. And I want to just go through

00:02:25.040 quickly what this case actually is all about and how extremely dumb it is. Today's also the deadline 0.95

00:02:32.260 for the Wayfair party is to file their opposition against Blake Lively's claim for legal fees. As

00:02:38.840 you know, she wants $8 million, something that everyone obviously is just laughing about. I will

00:02:44.540 be traveling to Norway this afternoon and I'll be there for two days I won't be back until Thursday

00:02:50.520 so I don't know if I'll be able to have an update on that until Thursday I'm so so sorry about that

00:02:57.620 if I do have time I'll jump on quickly tomorrow from Norway but I'm not sure if I can fit that

00:03:03.680 into my schedule so I just have to apologize for that okay so let's get into it if you watched my

00:03:09.400 episode on Friday maybe you'll remember I spoke about how Jamie thank you again for sending me

00:03:14.960 that tip that Jamie believes and I also believe that now that Blake and Ryan are working really

00:03:21.660 hard out there to plant new stories to contradict the truth again and as she mentioned she believes

00:03:27.940 that they're trying to shade Taylor Swift and she might be their next victim because she didn't

00:03:33.280 invite them to the wedding so I believe this story is coming straight from Ryan Reynolds

00:03:38.000 Allegedly, I have to add there.

00:03:39.700 I believe that they were shopping this story around

00:03:41.800 and then it ended up in OK Magazine.

00:03:45.020 We're like, OK, we will print this story with this source.

00:03:48.620 So look at this.

00:03:50.480 Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds were invited to Taylor Swift's wedding

00:03:54.840 but decided not to attend.

00:03:57.600 Source claims it was the right thing to do.

00:04:01.100 This story, of course, got some legs in the Blake Lively supporter community

00:04:05.420 or the community that's being paid by Ryan Reynolds, I should probably say.

00:04:09.740 It says here that Blake and Ryan had a seat waiting for them

00:04:13.060 at the Taylor Swift wedding to Travis Kelsey, but they chose not to fill it.

00:04:18.080 That's funny, actually.

00:04:19.560 Obviously, also because we know there weren't enough seats for the guests,

00:04:22.940 according to other stories that Ryan Reynolds allegedly planted last week

00:04:28.240 about how horrible this wedding really was.

00:04:30.560 And no one knew why they were there.

00:04:32.160 And there was a buffet and the food wasn't great.

00:04:34.640 and the long and there were really long lines and the champagne run out all these things all

00:04:39.940 this information that all of a sudden leaked out that i also believe now that's coming from ryan

00:04:45.520 reynolds anyways it says here that according to a source the couple was amongst the roughly

00:04:50.720 1000 guests invited to the ceremony but opted out to avoid drawing attention away from the bride

00:04:57.860 on her big day instead instead they spent the weekend in lake placid new york

00:05:03.500 cheering on their six-year-old daughter, Betty, at a horse show.

00:05:08.000 So not only were they so nice

00:05:10.340 that they didn't want to take away the attention from the bride here,

00:05:13.780 but they also spent the weekend with their children.

00:05:18.520 Yeah, this is pretty incredible.

00:05:20.520 It says for over 10 years, Lively and Swift had been close friends

00:05:23.700 with a love story singer,

00:05:25.660 even writing songs in honor of her famous couple's children.

00:05:30.060 However, they reportedly had a falling out

00:05:31.880 when Lively allegedly dragged the star's name

00:05:35.480 into a highly publicized legal battle with Baldoni.

00:05:38.740 While they may not be as close as they used to be,

00:05:41.960 the source shared that Swift and Lively

00:05:43.940 are on speaking terms again.

00:05:48.280 Really, they expect us to buy this.

00:05:51.740 This, as I said, is Blake Lively's biggest loss here

00:05:55.080 because this has harmed her reputation.

00:05:57.220 More than anything that came out

00:05:58.960 from the evidence in the lawsuit,

00:06:00.880 this is what really really harmed her and i think it also personally hurt her she lost her best

00:06:09.560 friend because of her own narcissistic ego trip and now they're getting their publicist to call

00:06:15.260 all these outlets saying like blake lily is really friends with taylor again they're all on speaking

00:06:19.580 terms yeah they're not and then there's some opinion here from the insider saying that blake

00:06:26.280 did the right thing and decided not to attend um and like said the insider and lively and reynolds

00:06:33.160 did not want to create a spectacle that would potentially take away from the bride on her big

00:06:37.580 day yeah they don't want any attention we noticed that also they continue to say here that it was

00:06:44.040 the right thing to do also it would have been awkward and blake and ryan are trying to keep

00:06:49.100 a low profile right now well that's true for the last week blake has been trying to keep a low

00:06:55.260 profile she hasn't posted anything on social media for over a week or actually since she filed

00:07:01.280 those eight million dollar that eight million dollar claims for legal fees she's been really

00:07:06.600 quiet it says here that taylor was not happy about being dragged into the lawsuit but was more

00:07:12.040 receptive to speaking to blake as the suit came to a close blake was ready to resume their

00:07:17.900 friendship because it really was what caused its demise uh blake was ready to resume their

00:07:23.900 friendship i don't think it was blake's decision to resume the friendship i think that's up to

00:07:29.900 taylor because she's the one who was blackmailed by blake anyways another story that the blake

00:07:36.620 lively supportive community which is i think about four content creators out there that are still

00:07:42.020 talking about this that just refuse to give up this idea that blake is a victim and that makes

00:07:48.340 me believe that these people must be paid so the other story floating around is that justin and

00:07:56.320 emily i gave their video to tmz before they published it on their own instagram because

00:08:03.300 someone some internet sleuths some pro blake lively internet sleuths found some metadata on

00:08:09.480 the article where tmz wrote about this video that was that they and it seems like they started

00:08:16.920 writing the story before the video was published on Justin and Emily's Instagram which is so

00:08:24.080 ridiculous because who cares why does it matter if they already had that video they would report

00:08:32.540 on it anyways so they're trying to make it look like this gotcha moment like yeah I don't know 0.96

00:08:37.700 if it's true or not and I don't really think it's so unimportant the reason why they did that video

00:08:43.000 was to get their word out there so they wanted the media to cover this obviously if they didn't

00:08:48.840 want anyone to see they could have done a private video or behind a paywall or whatever and instead

00:08:55.280 of going directly to the press i'm sure they got a lot of offers i'm sure they got offered millions

00:09:00.600 of dollars to sit down for exclusive interviews instead of doing that they were like we're doing

00:09:05.300 it on our own terms so this whole thing that they have tipped up tmz it's so ironic as well because

00:09:12.700 as you know, some amazing internet sleuths found out that Blake Lively was colluding with the New

00:09:19.360 York Times on that Justin Baldoni hit piece that they did, We Can Bury Anyone, months before it

00:09:26.240 was published. And that is a very different scenario because that article's goal was to bury

00:09:34.660 Justin Baldoni. It ended up burying Blake Lively. But anyways, that was the goal of that article.

00:09:40.700 and guess what that is a very different thing than actually tipping off the press that you have

00:09:47.760 published a video if they did that i don't know if they did that and i think the whole idea of

00:09:51.880 how they did this video is just pure genius anyway so funny now how these random outlets are just

00:09:57.660 trying to push these like pro blake and ryan stories for example this one four times blake

00:10:04.580 Lively and Ryan Reynolds proved roasting each other was their love language.

00:10:09.420 I mean, who is interested in that?

00:10:12.900 So that is their strategy right now.

00:10:15.100 They're trying to flood the internet with positive stories about themselves

00:10:19.180 while they're pretending that Blake is still friends with Taylor

00:10:23.260 and also pretending that this video from Justin and Emily doesn't really exist.

00:10:29.840 Anyways, let's talk about what my insider is saying about this

00:10:33.580 and also that NBC article. And I wanted to give you a little bit of an update in the Jones versus

00:10:39.400 Abel case, which you know is very connected to this case. But before we get into all of that,

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00:12:28.640 so let's just jump into this NBC article. This was so funny and so stupid. This headline is so 1.00

00:12:34.860 misleading. So as I said in the beginning here, they have a headline saying heartfelt or creepy

00:12:41.840 Justin Baldoni video after Blake Lively legal battle divides PR experts. It ends with his

00:12:48.080 director and actors video his first public comments in almost two years has drawn mixed

00:12:53.140 reviews from public relations consultants i actually didn't bother to buy this article so

00:12:59.760 i don't know exactly what it is about but i saw molly mcpherson commenting on it molly mcpherson

00:13:05.360 is a pr and marketing specialist she's been commenting on this case a lot she was in some

00:13:12.240 of the documentaries on hbo i think and the one on hulu the ones that i was also in

00:13:18.080 And she's been pretty spot on and very fair in her review of what's really going on here

00:13:23.680 behind the scenes.

00:13:24.780 And I saw she posted a comment about it on her Instagram.

00:13:28.160 And that's when I realized that the person who actually said that the video that Justin

00:13:32.980 and his wife posted was creepy.

00:13:36.040 He represents or used to represent Harvey Weinstein.

00:13:40.360 And there's an article about him in the New York Times.

00:13:43.960 I went through that article a few months ago, actually, when he's saying that he's still

00:13:47.840 friends with harvey and he really likes him and he's the one who said that this video that they

00:13:55.200 posted was creepy anyways this is what molly mcpherson said i was featured in an article by

00:14:03.060 nbcnews.com about the video showing that pr people were divided and we were greg first of all what

00:14:10.760 was the money quote in the article your money quote what appeared very unstrategic was actually

00:14:17.820 very strategic very good you nailed it quote to quote that immediately after what happened in

00:14:22.420 that article the next person disagreed totally completely disagreed that person i loved that

00:14:28.800 the reporter uh david added that they worked for harvey weinstein whatever that's why i think it's

00:14:34.020 a win and why it was unstrategic strategic one his wife emily was by his side the entirety of

00:14:42.420 this case has been Justin Baldoni v Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. Now his wife Emily is there

00:14:49.920 for the first time for the most part. That changes the math and that matters. The two of them are

00:14:56.040 talking about the health journey, the recovery of it all. She does take one ding how Blake made it

00:15:04.000 about supporting women. That was the only hit that they took in the entire video but most of it was

00:15:08.940 about healing also greg are you still paying attention i am this is what was so strategic

00:15:15.440 about it i feel that the the crime scene was pr it wasn't about justin and blake it was about the

00:15:23.200 pr industry and the machinations did you know that i do now now you do right now exactly but that's

00:15:28.860 what's on trial is the pr of it all he didn't use a publicist this video didn't come out via people

00:15:35.040 magazine it's on their owned channel and that sets the mark Gregory for PR 2026 and beyond

00:15:43.940 yeah she said it was strategically unstrategic I love that and that is exactly what I think too

00:15:49.820 and she agreed with a lot of the stuff that I spoke about last week when I went through that

00:15:54.680 video myself it's so authentic it's really the right thing to do and the way that they chose

00:16:00.200 this forum where they own the story themselves is so much more powerful than going to a media

00:16:07.200 outlet and sit down for an interview. Interestingly enough, that Harvey Weinstein publicist Judah

00:16:12.360 Engelmeyer said in that interview in the New York Times that I spoke about a few months ago,

00:16:18.140 he admits that he sometimes pays content creators to speak favorably of his clients. He could pay

00:16:25.880 up to a hundred thousand dollars for that yeah as you know bethany frankel from real housewives

00:16:31.960 of new york came out last week and said that she was contacted by someone from blake lively's team

00:16:37.180 someone very close to her someone i believe allegedly to be leslie sloan who asked her if

00:16:43.260 she could speak favorably of blake lively and interestingly enough there is a video

00:16:47.860 where bethany frankel is defending blake lively saying that she should have been more protected

00:16:55.040 on that set that she felt it was so creepy whatever that she felt it was unsafe and she's

00:17:00.820 been criticized for that after coming out with this video that I spoke about last week where

00:17:05.120 she said you know I was contacted and I didn't do that and blah blah blah and some people pointed

00:17:10.880 out that it looks like she actually did listen to Leslie Sloan a little bit at least in the

00:17:16.380 beginning anyways talking about people being paid by Ryan Reynolds this is interesting thank you for

00:17:22.780 sending this to me someone sent me this instagram post from ryan reynolds brother terry n reynolds

00:17:29.180 so this is where the reynolds blake and ryan were when they went to canada because his family lives

00:17:37.180 there so i'm assuming they were visiting his brother and he posted a post some pictures of

00:17:44.380 him with ryan his brother and guess who's commenting and liking that photo one of them 0.95

00:17:51.400 is dr leslie dobson remember her she has been spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories

00:17:59.700 about this case since the beginning and she was also the person who sent out fake hr complaints

00:18:06.940 to a lot of content creators pretending that they came from people from other cast members of it

00:18:14.280 ends with us she was confronted by by some content creators as well asking her you know

00:18:19.820 where is this coming from? These aren't coming from Sony. Where did you get this? And she was

00:18:25.000 like, I don't know. They were just sent to me. Well, she is apparently also following Ryan

00:18:29.600 Reynolds' brother. And she commented here three flames. Tell me that you're not being paid by

00:18:36.080 Ryan Reynolds. And then you go to this extent to show your support for him to his brother's

00:18:42.400 Instagram. Also a comment here is from Don Saladino. Remember him, the personal trainer

00:18:50.340 who betrayed Justin Baldoni and went to Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds and said that Justin

00:18:55.880 fat shamed you. He asked your weights. That guy, we know he is already paid by Ryan Reynolds and

00:19:02.520 Blake Lively to train them and to be their friend or liaison or whatever you want to call it.

00:19:08.440 but he also follows Ryan Reynolds brother in Canada anyways I have a quick update also from

00:19:15.540 my insider here who sent me this they said I thought I'd share some of the Hollywood reactions

00:19:21.480 here so this person I've mentioned many times before they are in the industry as well and

00:19:27.940 they're and they're close to the Baldoni camp and also has knowledge about the Blake Lively

00:19:35.360 Ryan Reynolds camp. They're saying here that according to people in the industry, Justin and

00:19:39.520 Emily's video was pitch perfect and just a taste of what would be to come. The reactions are

00:19:45.100 universally positive except for those being paid by Ryan, obviously. But apparently Blake and Ryan

00:19:51.740 are panicking because a few things have just developed that are absolutely devastating for

00:19:57.960 them. The first one is that Justin and Emily have the calm demeanor of people simply sharing their

00:20:03.320 truth and feelings and that is more powerful than anything ryan has been able to generate with his

00:20:09.180 campaign of hate and insane insults the other thing that has emerged is that emily baldone is

00:20:15.920 something of a superhero so grounded so authentic and comfortable in herself emily is infinitely

00:20:21.920 more likable than blake and ryan is realizing there is nothing he can do about that emily has

00:20:29.420 a natural grace that makes Blake look ridiculous in comparison and the Reynolds side is in total

00:20:35.720 distress as they realize there is no way to counter this. I totally agree. I spoke about

00:20:42.900 this last week as well. How are they going to react to this video? Are they going to make their

00:20:47.580 own video? Just turn the comments off where they're sitting there together? It's like that's

00:20:52.400 never going to happen. Blake and Ryan are way too passive aggressive and of course as you know they

00:20:59.040 always have to do things with the sense of humor and whenever of course they get a chance to mock

00:21:03.800 someone they will do that and then they say the final catastrophe for ryan is that they know

00:21:09.220 very well that if they try to escalate this then they fall right back into the death spiral of

00:21:16.120 triggering an internet war people will start looking into the facts again and every time

00:21:23.040 this happens, they know how that ends. The public turns completely against Blake. So true. I wonder

00:21:31.680 if they're going to be able to stay quiet. I don't think so. We haven't seen that throughout this

00:21:38.080 entire legal feud. So why would they start now? I'm assuming her lawyers will come out and comment

00:21:44.960 on their respond to the legal fees that is due today, as I mentioned in the beginning of this

00:21:51.520 episode and when they do that they will mark my words make a comment about this video that

00:21:59.380 justin and emily just did i am so sure that her attorneys will comment on this in the press and

00:22:07.860 just put it in there like randomly in a statement they're making about this 47.1 attorney's fees

00:22:16.260 Anyways, the person says friends are begging Ryan to keep silent and pretending to move on,

00:22:22.540 even though their instinct is always to punish and destroy. It's their only hope of avoiding

00:22:27.940 another round of internet investigation that will finish them forever. It might sting,

00:22:32.760 but any reaction by the Reynolds team can only harm them. Yeah, it's so funny now when she was

00:22:38.680 trying to silence him throughout this entire time. She's the one being silenced by herself.

00:22:45.560 marked by words by herself and they also say it's so cringy that they're trying to plant the story

00:22:51.400 that blake actually was invited to the wedding when everyone knows that's not true yes this

00:22:57.580 person also told me that they spoke to baldoni very recently and they're saying that he's back

00:23:04.520 to concentrating on filmmaking again and that people are feeling much more comfortable now

00:23:09.700 engaging with Wayfair parties for future projects after they watched this video and the people and

00:23:15.860 the public's reactions to this video. So that is great news for Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair

00:23:22.020 party and of course we look forward to seeing new projects from them in the future. Anyways let's

00:23:29.120 get a little reminder of what's going on in the Jones versus Abel lawsuit. There were some new

00:23:34.320 filings last week. Nothing very important, but the judge said, hey guys, we need to have a little

00:23:41.260 meeting here because we need to set a date for the trial and we also need to set a deadline

00:23:46.600 for the summary judgment. And as you may remember, when Justin Baldoni filed his summary judgment,

00:23:53.080 that was when all the evidence was made public. So I think I saw earlier that their deadline was

00:24:02.340 supposed to be in the beginning of August or something like that so I don't know if they're

00:24:06.980 going to try and move it or what's happening I will keep you posted on that just a reminder what 0.97

00:24:12.080 this lawsuit is all about it's so ridiculous you guys I forgot how dumb this really is so 0.80

00:24:18.560 Stephanie Jones used to work for Justin Baldoni she owns Jones Work a PR company that represented 0.96

00:24:25.780 Justin and her employee Jennifer Abel was Justin Baldoni's right hand she was the one working 0.89

00:24:32.240 close with Justin and she wanted to leave the company and start her own company and then

00:24:36.480 Stephanie Jones got furious and then that's when she contacted through this girl that Taylor Swift

00:24:42.900 knew she got in touch with Blake Lively to tell her hey I have my employee's phone that I stole

00:24:49.220 from her and there's some really interesting text messages on that phone that I should I think you

00:24:55.540 should be interested in and Blake said yeah sure send them over and then she was like hey New York

00:25:00.320 times. I have some really interesting text messages here that we can cherry pick and twist around and

00:25:05.700 make it look like Justin Baldoni is a creep. Anyways, here is the hysterically funny part.

00:25:11.540 Stephanie Jones is the one that sued Justin Baldoni, the wayfair parties, and Jennifer Abel. 0.90

00:25:18.680 She sued them for breach of contract and defamation. She claims that they secretly

00:25:26.200 organized an aggressive smear campaign to tarnish Blake lively behind her back. And that ultimately

00:25:33.180 forced her to drop her client, Justin Baldoni. It's so funny, especially since we've seen so

00:25:40.460 many text messages, that Stephanie Jones was cc'd on everything that went on behind the scenes

00:25:47.000 during all the drama of the premiere of It Ends With Us, when Blake is claiming that this smear

00:25:52.180 campaign was happening basically and stephanie jones was also there's also text messages proving

00:25:58.920 that she tried to plan stories even though the wayfair party said don't talk to the press she

00:26:05.240 still went out and tried to plan stories so this case for stephanie jones is just so embarrassing

00:26:13.020 and i really can't wait to see the separate judgment all the evidence coming out in this case

00:26:18.600 And as you know, we will most likely probably learn a lot more about that Van Zandt lawsuit,

00:26:26.840 the lawsuit that Blake and Ryan filed against 10 anonymous people

00:26:32.560 so that they could have a legal way of getting hold of that phone

00:26:38.100 that Stephanie Jones took from Jennifer Abel under force. 0.71

00:26:43.560 Basically, she had security people there. 1.00

00:26:45.900 She had attorneys there saying, give me your phone. 1.00

00:26:48.080 i'll give it back to you she never did that and jennifer abel didn't know any better and she was

00:26:52.780 like okay here it is but of course stephanie jones is defending herself against this saying that

00:26:58.600 she only gave over that phone to blake lively's team because she was obliged to do that because

00:27:04.780 there was a subpoena and she of course had to give her employees phone to blake lively because

00:27:11.460 of the subpoena although the subpoena was for 10 anonymous people uh and jennifer abel's phone was

00:27:17.400 the only phone that was given to Blake Lively it's so it like nothing adds up in this case

00:27:23.300 nothing it is so embarrassing for Stephanie Jones and I think she's lost a lot of her big clients

00:27:29.200 since this happened one of them being Tom Brady by the way and of course on top of this she got

00:27:35.620 sued back she got counter sued by Jennifer Abel and the Wayfair parties as well so this case is

00:27:41.760 super interesting and of course Jennifer Abel is suing her for taking her phone from her and

00:27:48.000 keeping it and snooping around in all around all her personal information she had everything you

00:27:54.820 know you have everything on your phone and a lot of things to get access to it you have to have

00:27:59.700 this two verification method or whatever it's called when you don't have your phone you don't

00:28:04.240 have access to your bank you don't have access to other personal stuff so this has been of course

00:28:10.440 devastating for jennifer abel anyways of course i'll keep you posted on whatever happens on that

00:28:15.700 case as well and on thursday when i'm back i'll go through the response from the wayfair parties

00:28:22.580 to these ridiculous legal fees that blake is asking for and as i said if i do have the chance

00:28:29.820 tomorrow morning i'll give you an update but i can't promise you anything anyways thank you guys

00:28:35.300 so much for watching thanks to Oscar who is relaxing he's staying here in

00:28:39.800 Mallorca while we go to Norway for a couple of days with some friends of ours

00:28:44.240 so as you can see he's super excited about that anyways if you haven't

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - July 14, 2026

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