Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - More Brutal BACKLASH for Blake !!

00:00:00.000 a Disney executive has come out and said Blake Lively is dead in Hollywood.

00:00:10.660 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Kersti Flore, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice

00:00:15.860 of reason in a town built on delusion. Okay, if you missed my episode on Saturday where I had

00:00:22.280 Magnus with me to explain what's happening right now, you should probably watch that. But anyways,

00:00:27.500 I did reveal in that episode that I am going to be a witness for Justin Baldoni.

00:00:32.460 I'll be there in person.

00:00:34.220 And I could also reveal that Blake Lively's team has filed,

00:00:38.260 I think it's about six or seven pages to the judge,

00:00:41.120 explaining to him why I should not be there.

00:00:44.620 They think that I am biased and that I will emphasize again

00:00:48.540 that Blake Lively was a mean girl and rude in my interview.

00:00:53.260 So we'll see how that goes.

00:00:54.960 I don't know when the judge is going to rule on this stuff, but I will keep you updated.

00:00:59.840 Also, there has been two new filings, one from the Wayfair parties and one from TAG,

00:01:06.380 where they have adjusted their motions on the pleadings and on the summary judgments,

00:01:12.060 so the judge get another opportunity to throw out more of Blake Lively's claims.

00:01:17.400 It seems like at this point that Blake could be left with one out of her 13 claims.

00:01:24.680 This is insane.

00:01:26.800 Also, a Disney executive has come out and said Blake Lively is dead in Hollywood.

00:01:33.820 The headlines are just brutal.

00:01:36.620 How Justin Baldoni's lawsuit ruined Blake Lively.

00:01:40.740 Ryan Reynolds' wife reportedly never that popular with bad reputation.

00:01:47.020 Another one says humiliating truth about Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni's lawsuit battle.

00:01:53.040 Hollywood insiders say the verdict is already in 0.78

00:01:56.900 and reveal toxic new gossip that means no one is shedding at tears for their loser.

00:02:04.260 Another one says, 0.98

00:02:05.560 Blake Lively begs court to toss out articles portraying her as a mean girl

00:02:10.200 in upcoming Justin Baldoni trial.

00:02:13.400 It's so amazing to me that she keeps filing all this stuff

00:02:17.920 that she doesn't want the jury to see.

00:02:20.520 But the reality is that every time she shows us new evidence she doesn't want the jury to see, we see it.

00:02:28.460 We are the public.

00:02:29.960 And this is all about public opinion.

00:02:32.620 It's not really about the jury's opinion. 0.98

00:02:35.380 Of course, she wants to win this lawsuit. 1.00

00:02:37.920 But for Blake Lively, it's much more important to win the public opinion because that's what her lawsuit is about. 1.00

00:02:43.820 She wants to be popular again. 1.00

00:02:45.440 And every time she files something new that she doesn't want the jury to see, it makes her look even worse.

00:02:52.700 Okay, in this episode, I also wanted to look at some of the evidence that Blake Lively wants the jury to see.

00:02:57.780 This is hilarious.

00:02:59.180 And also some of this text that she definitely wants to exclude.

00:03:02.980 That being said, the Wayfair parties also wants to toss out a lot of Blake Lively's witnesses and also a lot of her experts.

00:03:11.420 One of them, I was just like browsing through this morning

00:03:14.280 and I saw one of Blake Lively's experts.

00:03:16.700 His name is Jeffrey H. Kinrich.

00:03:19.120 He believes that Blake's company, Betty Booz and Blake Brown,

00:03:23.700 lost between $39.6 million and $143.5 million on this smear campaign.

00:03:33.540 And as you know, now Ryan Reynolds is back on the witness list.

00:03:36.480 Blake Lively wants to put him on the stand as well.

00:03:39.180 and so is emily blunt i feel so sorry for emily blunt she's just about to promote devil wears

00:03:46.320 prada too this is the last thing she wants to do and on the other hand what does she have to do with

00:03:52.440 any of this how does she know about what happened on the set of it ends with us she wasn't there

00:03:56.940 and she wasn't there during this alleged retaliation campaign she has no insight into

00:04:02.900 what happened here except from what blake and ryan maybe told her also as you know taylor swift is

00:04:08.420 back in and that is because blake lively wants her to be there let's get into all this mess okay

00:04:13.860 this is the most brutal thing i've read so far about blake so radar online here has spoken to

00:04:19.900 an insider the headline says blake lively dead in hollywood as her sh case against justin baldoni

00:04:28.760 teeters on collapse it says here one insider revealed there is an increasing sense within

00:04:36.320 the industry that Blake is in fact becoming dead in Hollywood. That is literally how she's now

00:04:42.520 being assessed behind closed doors. The conversation has shifted towards the risk of employing her

00:04:48.940 and whether attaching her to a project brings more uncertainty than opportunity. Yes, the fact

00:04:56.580 that insiders are saying that Blake Lively is dead in Hollywood and she keeps doing insane 0.61

00:05:00.960 things through her legal filings that makes people despise her even more. It is someone just needs to 0.87

00:05:08.960 tell her you have to stop. You have to stop this now. By the way, that community post, that community

00:05:15.540 note is still up on her Instagram. She also mentioned that in her legal filing or her lawyers

00:05:21.800 did that they don't want the jury to see that note on her Instagram post. The fact that it's still

00:05:27.240 there means that enough people pressed the thumbs up button on that community note and of course

00:05:34.300 that is devastating for Blake and it also tells her where the public stands when it comes to

00:05:39.180 this lawsuit and her as a person and her reputation there's also been headlines this

00:05:44.440 weekend that Justin Baldoni wants to toss out some of Blake Lively's witnesses he sees no relevance

00:05:50.400 in Colin Hoover being there being Blake's witness she was never on set so what does she know about

00:05:57.040 the situation that happened. She was not involved in that 17-point list, which this whole conflict

00:06:02.880 is about now. You have to remember, this is not about that alleged smear campaign for her standing

00:06:08.920 up for SH. This is a retaliation complaint according to California law. It is a lot narrower.

00:06:18.120 And as I will talk about in this episode, that claim is probably most likely at this point going

00:06:26.000 to be tossed out as well. So Justin also said the only issue Jenny Slate ever had was that he called

00:06:32.440 her pants sexy at one occasion and Jenny Slate said herself in her deposition that she moved

00:06:40.340 on from it. Everything was resolved during that one comment so she doesn't want to be a part of

00:06:46.260 this. It's pretty obvious when you look at these people's social media now. Finally Jenny Slate

00:06:51.300 has closed off her comment section brandon's glenar has not and his instagram and the comments

00:06:58.160 on his instagram posts are brutal and you know how much he was affected when this happened during

00:07:05.420 the promotion of it ends with us he said in text messages to blake like this is so hard for me i

00:07:11.740 can't really handle all this backlash i can't even begin to imagine what it feels like right now

00:07:16.800 he must turn off his comment section I mean why does he keep it open and a lot of the comments

00:07:22.780 there are saying you know stop deleting comments stop deleting negative comments so yeah I don't

00:07:28.580 know why he didn't turn off his comment section yet as you know Isabella Ferrer deleted photos

00:07:33.000 of Blake Lively and herself and she definitely does not want to testify and Justin Baldoni also

00:07:39.140 said we don't need Isabella Ferrer either she was never on set at the same time as Blake Lively

00:07:44.920 And these witnesses were listed to help Blake Lively prove her SH claims to begin with.

00:07:50.600 And those are tossed out now.

00:07:52.160 So no need for any of these people to actually witness.

00:07:56.040 We'll see what the judge does about this.

00:07:58.160 Her Daily Mail did a story yesterday explaining all the things that Blake Lively wants tossed out.

00:08:03.560 Again, this is just the worst PR tactic in history.

00:08:07.680 You are mentioning in your legal filings everything you don't want people to focus on.

00:08:12.460 And of course, the media picks it up and does an article about all the things that you don't want out there.

00:08:20.740 So Daily Mail did exactly that.

00:08:22.840 They're saying Blake Lively begs court to toss out articles portraying her as a mean girl in upcoming Justin Baldoni trial.

00:08:30.680 Whatever you do, don't call Blake Lively a mean girl, they say.

00:08:34.340 The actress is objecting to news articles that paint her in a negative light, being shown to the jury at her trial against Justin Baldoni next month.

00:08:42.460 The actress says that a jury would draw adverse conclusions about her character

00:08:47.100 if they allowed to see the articles being submitted for the trial.

00:08:51.720 Some of these articles are Blake Lively talking about herself as feeling like a tranny,

00:08:56.480 using the word tranny, which is not okay these days.

00:08:59.020 And also, of course, articles about her and Ryan getting married on a plantation

00:09:05.160 and their apology for getting married on a plantation.

00:09:08.740 and also the company that Blake Lively launched where she was selling stuff

00:09:13.720 that was inspired by slave owners.

00:09:17.400 Some of these articles obviously reminds us that Blake Lively didn't have a good reputation to begin with

00:09:23.060 and she doesn't want the jury to know that.

00:09:24.960 And Daily Mail also mentioned Lively is also objecting to Baldoni calling Shasti Flo, me, as a witness

00:09:31.860 to recount the Norwegian journalist infamous 2016 interview with the actress

00:09:37.400 which resurfaced during the controversy about the movie in 2024.

00:09:41.800 Lively's lawyers wrote,

00:09:43.160 Miss Floss' testimony about her interview with Miss Lively

00:09:46.280 will inevitably echo her numerous public statements

00:09:49.620 describing Miss Lively as rude and excluding mean girl energy.

00:09:55.840 There I said it again. Oops.

00:09:57.940 Anyways, Lively's legal team claims that the move is an attempt to smuggle into evidence

00:10:02.960 a combination of gossip and rumor.

00:10:06.200 while misleading the jury into believing that their curated laundry list of old events

00:10:11.280 must have played some role in the overwhelmingly negative shift in public statement

00:10:17.600 against Ms. Lively in August of 2024.

00:10:20.300 So as I understand it here, Blake Lively's team wants the jury to know

00:10:24.720 that all of this bad press was brought up again against and used against her

00:10:29.460 during this retaliation campaign, but she doesn't want the jury to see what it was.

00:10:33.800 And it's the same thing she's doing with the little bump interview that I did with her.

00:10:38.060 She's saying that it was used against her, but she doesn't want the jury to see it.

00:10:43.060 Hmm, I wonder how this is going to play out.

00:10:45.900 So Blake Lively's team is referring to all of this as just gossip articles

00:10:49.620 and that Justin Baldoni will use it as character assassination against her.

00:10:56.100 And that's also why my testimony should be excluded.

00:10:58.980 During the summer of 2024, Flo's interview with Lively from 2016 went viral and made a backlash against the actress.

00:11:06.520 And it says here that I congratulated her on being pregnant and she congratulated me back and I wasn't pregnant and I was traumatized, whatever.

00:11:15.080 And the Daily Mail says that her team now claims that whatever marginal relevance her testimony might conceivably have is substantially outweighed by the significant danger of undue prejudice to Ms. Lively by Ms. Flaw coming into court to point her as a bully and a mean girl. 0.80

00:11:34.980 There they said it again, bully and mean girl.

00:11:37.140 Just to make sure those weren't my words right now, they were Daily Mail's words, quoting Blake Lively's lawyers, saying that she doesn't want to be called a mean girl and a bully.

00:11:46.960 Also, they're mentioning that Blake Lively doesn't want Ryan Reynolds' wealth to be brought up.

00:11:52.160 And they're saying Harry's worth about $400 million, thanks to his success with Deadpool.

00:11:58.260 I think they don't want the jury to know that he's worth $400 million, because then they'll think, why does she want all this money?

00:12:05.200 What is this really for?

00:12:07.560 $400, $500, $600 million that she said that she's worth

00:12:11.580 and her losses for these claims when her husband is so rich.

00:12:16.720 Also, they don't want the jury to know that

00:12:19.460 because that gives them a lot of power 1.00

00:12:21.500 because that wouldn't make her such a good victim 0.99

00:12:23.560 if her husband is a billionaire 0.57

00:12:25.320 and has all this power over all these Hollywood players.

00:12:28.740 That makes total sense.

00:12:30.320 And as I said the other day,

00:12:31.340 she also wants a nice pull out of this.

00:12:33.420 She doesn't want the jury to see how they bullied Justin Baldoni by creating this character that her character, Lady Poole, shot multiple times in a really barbaric way in this movie.

00:12:46.900 So they don't want the jury to see Blake Lively's character act as a violent bully in her husband's movie, I guess.

00:12:55.380 They're also mentioning Taylor Swift again here and that she is not going to testify in person no matter what happens.

00:13:02.800 whoever brings her in uh as you know blake lively added some more evidence over the weekend like

00:13:09.440 800 pages of like ridiculousness and one of those pieces of evidence that she's mentioning

00:13:15.640 is a taylor swift cookie recipe that she found really relevant for this case also photos of her

00:13:23.340 and taylor together i mean the extent that her lawyers are going to to try and confuse everyone

00:13:29.300 and to just dump all these like unrelevant documents onto the court docket 0.60

00:13:34.900 so that Justin Baldoni's attorneys are going to work overtime to try and go through all this crap.

00:13:41.400 They're also again, so this is what happens again here now,

00:13:45.020 Daily Mail is reminding everyone the text exchange between Taylor and Blake.

00:13:50.320 As I said earlier, the fact that she is filing all this stuff now just reminds people

00:13:55.820 what she actually has done and how she made people play along with her like Taylor Swift here.

00:14:02.700 So they're reminding everyone that when Taylor said to Blake,

00:14:07.760 no one should ever get into a war of wills with you,

00:14:11.360 as Lively fawned over Swift and said she thinks like the actual Roman Empire 0.99

00:14:16.880 and that she was wickedly smart.

00:14:20.080 That doesn't sound like a victim either. 0.93

00:14:21.880 And in a brutal comment, Swift told Lively and Baldoni's misogyny runs so deep he thinks women are incapable of winning chess matches or making long game power plays.

00:14:33.540 Texts have also shown that the friendship soured amid the controversy over it ends with us, blah, blah, blah.

00:14:39.420 Yes, and TMZ picked this up as well, saying Justin Baldoni, does Blake think Taylor Swift baking will come up at trial?

00:14:46.300 question mark justin baldoni's team says blake lively can't have her cookies and eat them too

00:14:52.160 arguing she's filing tons of last minute exhibits with no relevance amongst these exhibits is that

00:14:58.740 taylor swift cookie recipe they're saying here and also a picture of herself with swift and a speech

00:15:04.080 she made about her husband ryan reynolds i mean let's look at some of these instagram posts that

00:15:09.660 Blake Lively just filed as being part of her lawsuit. So here is that photo of Blake.

00:15:17.540 Blake's speech to Ryan is the most beautiful thing you'll ever see today. Why is this relevant?

00:15:25.440 Here is another one. This is from It Ends With Us movie when they posted that she's

00:15:29.740 arriving at the premiere. It was raining when she arrived at the premiere and it wasn't raining

00:15:34.520 when Justin arrived by the way interesting and I think this is why she added it because there is

00:15:39.740 a comment here saying she looks amazing but every time I see her I just think about the fact her and

00:15:45.880 Ryan got married on a plantation so I'm guessing that they think this is something that Justin

00:15:51.380 Baldoni's team added to that comment and here is another photo of her better three weeks late than

00:15:57.740 ever worth posting still because what a weekend and then she talks about this book bonanza thing

00:16:02.680 why is that in her favor i don't understand i feel so many of the things that leg livey's team

00:16:09.220 has filed to support her claims really do the opposite of that and here's another photo of her

00:16:15.860 amongst a lot of flowers saying i always thought i was a florist well before playing one i don't

00:16:22.180 know uh this just proves that it was all about flowers and not about dv if you ask me but blake

00:16:29.160 wants to use this as her evidence go figure here's another one an article from new york post ryan

00:16:37.120 reynolds trolls taylor swift blake lively with photoshop picture of him and travis kelsey oh

00:16:44.020 okay i don't think travis kelsey would like that right now but anyways why does she want this

00:16:50.200 in her evidence to prove that she was a friends with taylor swift and now she's not

00:16:57.220 Also, she added a link to my Etsy shop.

00:17:01.060 I made it into her evidence list even one more time here,

00:17:05.620 showing that I'm selling t-shirts supporting the truth,

00:17:10.760 or she's saying supporting Justin Baldoni.

00:17:13.900 Anyways, here's another one with Ryan Reynolds posting about his friend Hugh Jackman.

00:17:19.920 I feel like she just wants the jury to know that,

00:17:22.620 hey, look at all my celebrity friends.

00:17:24.320 You know, I have to be right here because how would I be so popular amongst these A-listers

00:17:29.260 in Hollywood if I wasn't telling the truth? 0.98

00:17:32.900 Here is another one where she is on her way, I think, to the Super Bowl with her friend

00:17:40.220 ex-BFF Taylor Swift, because I remember this tracksuit.

00:17:44.740 And she says, last week I left my kids for the first time ever and wore pants that wore

00:17:49.820 shoes.

00:17:50.540 so i am guessing that she's one she wants to say that she left her kids for the first time because

00:17:56.340 she's such a good mother i don't know and here's another one 2023 highlights pumping at disney

00:18:04.140 world yeah why would that be interesting for the jury to know that she's pumping in disney world

00:18:08.520 i don't know let me know if you have any idea why she filed all of these instagram posts

00:18:13.720 and here's another one that ryan reynolds posted the only thing irrevocably mine in the

00:18:20.460 world is the love and appreciation and awe I feel for this person. Witnessing her life is something

00:18:25.500 I couldn't take for granted if I tried. And believe me, I try. Happy birthday, Blake Lively.

00:18:32.960 You hung the damn moon. Okay, so we know that Ryan Reynolds really loves his wife. Is that what 0.99

00:18:39.580 she's proving? I don't know. So this is the kind of new evidence that Blake Lively wants to show

00:18:45.420 to the jury okay so let's look at this daily mail article this is brutal it says humiliating truth

00:18:53.200 about blake lively and justin baldone's lawsuit battle hollywood insiders say the verdict is

00:18:59.260 already in and reveal toxic new gossip that means no one is shedding tears for the loser it says

00:19:06.840 here one disney studio executive that's pretty big who once worked with the actress told the

00:19:14.240 daily mail the lawsuit has ruined her in hollywood the truth is she was never that popular she had a 0.81

00:19:21.240 reputation for being difficult one of those toxic people who always think she knows best and it

00:19:28.200 continues indeed she is on record as claiming that her talent is being able to take a script

00:19:34.160 and excavate it carve out something far superior to the original it's what she boasted she and rye

00:19:41.660 and her husband, Ryan Reynolds, did with the key scenes in It Ends With Us.

00:19:46.780 But when it comes to projects from her own production company, B for Effort,

00:19:51.280 the Daily Mail has learned that not one single film has been seen through to fruition

00:19:56.620 since the company launched in March 2020.

00:20:00.460 Basically reminding everyone that Blake and Ryan likes to take over other people's projects

00:20:05.700 and not make their own.

00:20:07.440 It continues here.

00:20:08.400 Now, our Hollywood source says the general view now is that she made her bed and she can lie in it.

00:20:14.240 I don't think people in Hollywood are shredding tears over her.

00:20:17.580 Not so long ago, Lively seemed to have it all.

00:20:19.720 Beautiful, happy and healthy.

00:20:21.540 She was both an in-demand screen siren and a devoted mother to four children.

00:20:26.740 With her handsome husband beside her, she formed half of one of Hollywood's hottest couples.

00:20:30.940 couples the pair is worth an estimated 600 million dollars thanks to thanks to ryan's

00:20:36.740 wildly successful deadpool series and then their myriad telecom sporting and drink deals

00:20:42.260 well well no wonder they're moving to london there are reports that they bought a house in london i

00:20:49.520 don't know if it's because ryan is spending so much time in the uk because of his wrexham soccer

00:20:54.620 team and because he's shooting over there or if it is because they want to get away from the u.s

00:21:00.020 I don't know let me know what you think for a Disney executive to come out like this

00:21:05.400 that's pretty huge let's look at the new filings by the way quickly before we go so there were two

00:21:11.740 new filings one from TAG the crisis management company that Justin Baldoni hired to help him

00:21:18.300 throughout the crisis when Blake Vlive's team was trying to smear him during the premiere of

00:21:25.160 it ends with us. So he hired help from TAG and Melissa Nathan, who works for TAG. And also there

00:21:32.000 was another filing from the Wayfair parties as well, trying to also toss out one more of the

00:21:37.980 claims. So the judge really opened the door for both of these parties to come up with an adjustment

00:21:46.100 to their previous filing saying, you know, if you use a different language here, and if you maybe

00:21:52.060 use some other laws and explain this in a better cleaner way maybe i could just toss out two more

00:21:57.720 claims and the likelihood of that happening is pretty big actually so tag is arguing that why

00:22:03.920 should they be still a part of this claim while blake lively is using fija laws which is california

00:22:12.500 employment law and they say blake was never an employee of tag which makes total sense she wasn't

00:22:18.760 even an employee of the Wayfair parties as you know she was a contractor so they're saying how

00:22:24.660 can we be responsible for an employee that we never had a contract with we never hired Blake

00:22:31.900 Wively we are a PR firm they never paid her they never supervised her nothing so how can they be

00:22:38.080 responsible so basically they're saying you can't stretch this employment law to cover PR activity

00:22:44.900 after the job ended and as i said earlier in this episode blake lively's claims are really narrowed

00:22:51.780 already it is it's all relying on california law and as both parties here both tag and the

00:22:59.860 wayfarer parties are not arguing is that the fundament of that law should not be taken in

00:23:04.800 consideration here because most of this movie was shot in new jersey and blake lively lives in new

00:23:10.300 york so why should california law employment law be effective in new jersey wafer parties as i said

00:23:18.980 also filed a claim uh they renewed their motion for judgment on the pleadings judgment on the

00:23:25.060 pleadings is basically just taking the law into consideration just remove all the evidence and

00:23:31.240 just look at the law and they're again saying that she cannot claim retaliation under california 0.88

00:23:38.800 law. They're also pointing out that the alleged wrongdoing, which is basically what Blake Lively

00:23:44.340 is accusing them for, couldn't fall under California law to begin with. So how can

00:23:49.840 retaliation claims still stand and apply if the wrongdoing wasn't basically wrong because

00:23:58.400 everything happened in New Jersey? The alleged harassment happened in New Jersey. That's why

00:24:04.900 California employment law cannot be applied. So what does this really mean for Blake Lively's

00:24:11.360 lawsuit? If two more claims are tossed out, if retaliation and abetting retaliations are both

00:24:18.040 tossed out, she has one claim left and that is breach of contract. She is claiming they breached

00:24:23.740 that 17 point list. So then this case is not about workplace misconduct anymore. It's more

00:24:30.160 a commercial dispute and Blake Lively cannot really portray herself as a victim anymore and

00:24:36.300 all of this evidence that's filed from both sides now will just be irrelevant. So what will happen

00:24:42.060 then? I'm guessing they will try to settle because what's the point in going to court and going to

00:24:48.460 trial for one of these 13 claims which isn't really going to make Blake Lively look like a

00:24:53.940 winner, even if she would be to win this. Let's see what happens. So many things are up in the

00:24:59.960 air right now. It's super exciting to follow this case. I will keep you posted every single day as

00:25:05.420 always. Thank you so much for watching this episode. I really hope you enjoyed it and thanks

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - April 14, 2026

More Brutal BACKLASH for Blake !!

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