Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - February 01, 2026


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00:00:00.000 Brandon is tightly wrapped around her finger.
00:00:04.080 Blake is teaching him exactly what to do.
00:00:07.060 It's fascinating.
00:00:13.460 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.
00:00:15.240 I'm Tashley Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:17.880 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:21.560 Okay, if you watched my episode yesterday,
00:00:23.860 you know that I played that entire voice memo
00:00:26.380 that Blake Lively sent to Justin Baldoni before they started shooting.
00:00:30.220 And today the media has picked it up and it looks really bad for Blake
00:00:34.600 because everyone is emphasizing on the fact that she called him a friend.
00:00:39.680 Also, let's take a look at that fat shaming again
00:00:42.280 and why her personal trainer, Dom Saladino, wanted to stir the pot.
00:00:49.060 I found some very interesting posts on Reddit about her personal trainer
00:00:54.800 and one of the people there said that following his training program
00:00:59.440 felt like being part of a cult.
00:01:02.360 Sound familiar?
00:01:03.540 Let's also compare some notes and documents here.
00:01:06.280 How Blake Lively said in her lawsuit that there was no lifting scene in the movie
00:01:11.440 so there was no reason for Justin to ask about her weight.
00:01:15.520 Well, we have the script and it says otherwise.
00:01:18.960 And we have some more really revealing text messages
00:01:23.040 between Alex Sacks, one of the producers of the movie,
00:01:26.520 and Todd Black over at Sony.
00:01:29.200 And Alex Sacks is revealing to Todd
00:01:32.100 how Blake Lively has brainwashed the cast.
00:01:36.160 You've got to hear this.
00:01:37.780 And we also have 122 pages of text messages
00:01:42.520 between Justin Baldoni and his team.
00:01:45.500 And what's interesting here is all the things that these texts are not saying.
00:01:51.600 Yeah, this is getting worse and worse.
00:01:54.580 Anyways, let's look at some of the headlines
00:01:56.980 regarding this new voice memo that I spoke about yesterday.
00:02:00.740 If you didn't watch that episode, maybe you should do that first
00:02:03.380 or listen to that voice memo.
00:02:04.980 Basically, Blake Lively was really sharing with Justin
00:02:08.500 in a very intimate and very friendly tone
00:02:11.500 that she was worried about her weight
00:02:13.080 and that she was worried to start shooting a movie
00:02:15.780 so soon after she had given birth.
00:02:19.100 So today, the media picked this up
00:02:20.940 and People Magazine said that
00:02:22.860 hear Blake Lively's unsealed voice message
00:02:26.120 to Justin Baldoni
00:02:27.820 before making it ends with us.
00:02:30.900 Talking to you as a friend.
00:02:33.600 Same, New York Post.
00:02:35.760 Blake Lively's private voice memo
00:02:37.540 to Justin Baldoni,
00:02:38.860 unsealed as nasty legal battle,
00:02:40.880 continues talking to you as a friend.
00:02:44.500 Daily Mail.
00:02:45.700 Bombshell new leaked audio
00:02:47.340 that could sync Blake Lively.
00:02:50.140 Listen to actress' four-minute voice note to Baldoni.
00:02:54.280 So Daily Mail is going a little more sensational here
00:02:56.960 and they're also talking about this trainer Don Saladino
00:03:00.760 and I've spoken a bit about him before
00:03:03.140 because I think what he did here is so suspicious.
00:03:06.500 What was his motivation
00:03:07.680 for leaking this information to Blake Lively?
00:03:11.100 So a little background was that
00:03:12.940 Blake Lively had worked with Don Saladino for a long time.
00:03:16.580 He was her personal trainer.
00:03:18.180 He was also training Ryan Reynolds for Deadpool
00:03:20.860 and Blake Lively said to Justin Baldoni,
00:03:23.460 I have this great personal trainer.
00:03:25.580 You should also work with him.
00:03:26.980 And Justin was like, yeah, why not?
00:03:28.700 So he started working with Don Saladino
00:03:31.320 and Don even gave him recipes and sent him food.
00:03:34.820 He was a part of his whole program.
00:03:36.420 And of course, when you work with a personal trainer,
00:03:39.080 you expect that that person is trustworthy.
00:03:42.500 You expect that person not to share information
00:03:45.140 that you were telling him with other people.
00:03:48.800 But for some reason, Don Saladino thought this was so important.
00:03:53.360 And in Daily Mail, they're saying that Saladino said in a deposition
00:03:56.860 that he was taken aback when Baldoni asked him about Lively's weight,
00:04:02.000 supposedly because he was worried about not being able to lift her up
00:04:05.360 during a dance scene.
00:04:07.100 Supposedly, that's exactly what he said.
00:04:09.300 I am worried.
00:04:10.080 I have disc issues.
00:04:11.240 I have serious back problems.
00:04:12.880 So we can do the training accordingly.
00:04:15.120 And they continue.
00:04:15.880 In his deposition, Saladino said Baldoni's comments
00:04:18.260 made him feel uncomfortable.
00:04:20.940 And so he told Lively.
00:04:23.020 Baldoni claims he had back problems
00:04:24.800 and only wanted to be safe during filming.
00:04:27.440 He felt so uncomfortable, this Don Saladino,
00:04:30.880 because Justin Baldoni asked him in confidence how much Blake weighed.
00:04:35.820 I mean, what good would come from him telling Blake Lively that information?
00:04:41.040 He would only hurt Blake and he would only stir the pot
00:04:45.260 and he would only make the relationship between Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively
00:04:49.640 and Ryan Reynolds worse.
00:04:51.660 But he decided to do that anyway because it made him feel uncomfortable.
00:04:55.320 He obviously only did this to show loyalty towards Blake and Ryan
00:05:00.040 because they're celebrities.
00:05:02.020 They're more famous than Justin Baldoni.
00:05:04.120 And he really worships them.
00:05:06.700 He used to have all these photos of them on his Instagram.
00:05:09.360 He removed them after he got some backlash from this.
00:05:12.440 But he used to really promote his relationship with them
00:05:15.800 and sell his training courses
00:05:18.180 because he was training celebrities like Ryan and Blake.
00:05:22.540 And now he could say to them,
00:05:23.980 look, I'm so loyal to you.
00:05:25.760 I'm this little snitch here.
00:05:27.000 I can spy for you.
00:05:28.200 And I'm going to tell you everything.
00:05:30.220 Anyways, as I said in the beginning,
00:05:31.880 I found this on Reddit,
00:05:34.120 a person who actually took some of Don Saladino's training sessions.
00:05:38.540 And he was a part of this community that Don had created on Facebook
00:05:42.600 and other places where you paid to be a part of a training program.
00:05:46.460 And it seems like this person is not the only one
00:05:48.720 who had a fallout with this trainer.
00:05:50.520 And this was posted two years ago.
00:05:52.100 So before any of this legal mess started,
00:05:54.220 and this person said that he went to one of his fitness retreats
00:05:57.400 and had some questions about it.
00:05:59.120 He said he contacted Don Saladino and he said,
00:06:01.420 I'll call you back.
00:06:02.400 And then he said here that the call went terrible.
00:06:04.580 He basically chewed me out and attempted to gaslit me.
00:06:08.240 The actual call was so crazy that it's all a blur to me.
00:06:11.980 After that, I was done with him,
00:06:13.380 but I just would have finished out my package and disappeared.
00:06:16.340 I think he expected me to apologize to him,
00:06:19.380 but I knew I was in the right because others had the same issues.
00:06:23.580 I did, but I was the only one who had the balls to say something.
00:06:27.580 Then a week later, I get an email.
00:06:29.940 He can't be my coach anymore,
00:06:31.600 refunded me my money and blocked me on Instagram.
00:06:35.560 And then he says this,
00:06:36.580 over time, the group began to feel cult-like.
00:06:40.380 People offered him unpaid assistance.
00:06:42.700 A couple would send him gifts.
00:06:44.060 And I'm pretty sure some people were modifying their pictures to him.
00:06:48.540 So he's mentioning twice here that it felt like being part of a cult.
00:06:53.280 Isn't that interesting?
00:06:54.660 Because that's exactly what Blake Lively and her team
00:06:58.100 has been accusing Justin Baldoni of.
00:07:00.960 So here you go.
00:07:01.940 Her personal trainer is also in a cult.
00:07:05.320 Looking at his Instagram, he has like 429,000 followers.
00:07:09.800 And then you look at one picture and it's got 59 likes.
00:07:12.960 I mean, and six comments.
00:07:14.860 Give me a break.
00:07:15.780 I think he's using the same bot company as Blake Lively.
00:07:19.880 Someone sent me some screenshots from her posts recently
00:07:23.540 and looked at the people who liked it.
00:07:25.420 And they're all the same photo.
00:07:27.680 They just have a different name,
00:07:29.160 but they even have the same profile picture.
00:07:31.700 So talking about bots.
00:07:33.860 Anyways, let's look at what Blake Lively said
00:07:36.640 in her complaint about the fat shaming thing.
00:07:39.640 Mr. Baldoni also continued degrading Ms. Lively
00:07:44.140 by finding back channel ways of criticizing her body and weight.
00:07:49.800 A few weeks before filming began,
00:07:52.000 and less than four months after Ms. Lively had given birth to her fourth child,
00:07:56.520 Ms. Lively was humiliated to learn that Mr. Baldoni secretly called her fitness trainer.
00:08:01.620 Without her knowledge or permission and implied that he wanted her to lose weight in two weeks,
00:08:08.640 Mr. Baldoni told the trainer that he had asked because he was concerned about having to pick Ms. Lively up
00:08:14.540 in a scene for the movie, but there was no such scene.
00:08:19.620 First of all, Mr. Baldoni secretly called her fitness trainer without her knowledge or permission.
00:08:25.880 He was also Justin Baldoni's fitness trainer.
00:08:30.220 So why would he call Blake Lively for permission to ask his own personal trainer a question about his back issues?
00:08:40.180 And then they added this lie in the end that he had asked because he was concerned about having to pick Ms. Lively up
00:08:46.140 in a scene for the movie.
00:08:47.640 There was no such scene.
00:08:49.800 Well, let's look at the script, you guys.
00:08:52.960 So here we go.
00:08:54.200 This script, I'll go through that in another episode because there's a lot of comments here
00:08:58.720 from Ange Gianetti over at Sony picking it apart, saying, you know,
00:09:04.660 tone it down, this is too childish, there's so many comments here that this is not a rom-com.
00:09:10.480 And a lot of these comments that she wanted out has Ryan Reynolds written all over them.
00:09:16.060 But anyways, here is the scene.
00:09:18.160 It says here,
00:09:19.740 what happens next happens fast.
00:09:22.680 With unbridled passion, the two become one body against the wall.
00:09:27.320 Their bodies aching for each other as Ryle lifts Lily up, hooking her legs around his waist.
00:09:34.840 And dot, dot, dot.
00:09:37.520 He lifts her up, hooking her legs around his waist.
00:09:41.040 Is that not a lifting scene?
00:09:42.980 Or were you expecting a lifting scene from Dirty Dancing, like he had to hold her over his head?
00:09:48.720 Was that what you were expecting?
00:09:50.360 Interestingly enough, Blake Lively removed this scene later.
00:09:55.200 And we could see from a text or from notes from Justin Baldoni that he was really frustrated,
00:10:00.820 of course, again, about her changing the script up.
00:10:04.020 He's saying here that she's moved this scene from the bedroom into the kitchen now,
00:10:09.340 which takes away from the intimacy and how I was planning on shooting it.
00:10:13.960 I wanted her to run into the kitchen from another area to sell the misdirect that it was an accident.
00:10:20.400 They're talking about one situation where there wasn't an accident and Ryle was being aggressive, whatever.
00:10:26.480 She has removed kissing, which is fine in the end.
00:10:31.220 The last thing I want to do is kiss this woman, Justin Baldoni says.
00:10:36.800 But the point is they need to get distracted enough to forget about the oven.
00:10:41.160 And now we dialogue here.
00:10:42.700 It changes it from a timeless moment of two people about to make love to a dialogue that brings us into the realm of time.
00:10:50.780 Not sure what to do with this scene.
00:10:53.440 Another thing to note here is the final shot of the scene is not scripted,
00:10:57.700 but it's supposed to be Ryle carrying her away, which is symbolic for her losing control in the relationship at this moment.
00:11:05.140 I foresee her not wanting to do this, which puts us on an impasse with how I want to shoot the scene.
00:11:11.560 Not sure how to proceed.
00:11:13.420 So that was from Justin.
00:11:14.740 So she removed that scene herself.
00:11:16.980 So I am just guessing that she felt uncomfortable with him lifting her in that scene.
00:11:23.460 So she wanted it removed.
00:11:25.020 And then she told her lawyers that he wasn't there or their lawyers were like,
00:11:28.880 OK, we'll just lie for you, Blake.
00:11:30.900 I don't know how it happened, but what they're saying in her lawsuit is not true.
00:11:35.680 Here is Baldoni's version of what happened with the personal trainer.
00:11:39.180 He said on April 22, 2023, Baldoni privately reached out to Don, his personal trainer, to ask Lively's weight
00:11:47.080 so that he could train his back muscles in preparation for a lift scene.
00:11:52.840 This was important to avoid injury, not only to Baldoni, who suffered from lifelong back injuries,
00:11:58.940 multiple bulging discs and chronic pain,
00:12:02.740 but also to Lively if the lift could not be completed successfully and safely.
00:12:09.920 Now withstanding Lively's recent attempts to deny the existence of any such scene,
00:12:15.200 it was only nixed at her instance after having been planned and rehearsed.
00:12:20.260 So they're pointing out here that Justin also wanted this information
00:12:23.860 to know that he could lift her safely because he worried about her safety.
00:12:28.800 From Blake's complaint, it seemed like Justin only did this to hurt her.
00:12:36.340 I mean, what would be Justin's end goal here for asking this question
00:12:40.000 if it wasn't for an honest reason about his back injury?
00:12:44.120 Why would he ask that question?
00:12:45.680 And he definitely wouldn't have asked if he knew that Don Saladina was a snitch
00:12:50.160 and he never said anything about her having to lose weight within two weeks.
00:12:54.380 That's just taken out of thin air.
00:12:56.480 There's no evidence of that anywhere.
00:12:58.320 It's just another lie.
00:13:00.240 Okay, let's get into this really juicy text exchange between Alex Sacks,
00:13:05.320 one of the producers of the movie, and a Sony rep called Todd Black.
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00:14:57.660 Okay, so let's get into these text messages.
00:14:59.700 These are messages between the producer of It Ends With Us, Alex Sachs.
00:15:04.380 She's one of those people who played both sides here.
00:15:07.180 She came out and said that Justin was being aggressive on the set when he slapped his hand on a chair, so she's that one.
00:15:13.940 And then we have Todd Black, who's also working for Sony.
00:15:17.800 And it seems like here that Alex Sachs just had a wonderful dinner.
00:15:22.360 And she's saying to Todd Black, I forgot, I told Ange last week, too, Ange Giannetti is another Sony representative, and she's the one who called Blake Lively a terrorist, by the way.
00:15:32.260 So Alex says here that I told Ange last week, Christy Hall, the writer, asked me for dinner a couple of weeks ago after the test we were all at.
00:15:43.280 She also wants to press with Justin, doesn't even want to be on the red carpet with him.
00:15:48.380 Todd, not sure if you knew that piece, too.
00:15:51.240 And Todd says, no, I didn't know that.
00:15:53.400 Thank you.
00:15:54.460 So Christy Hall has her own story.
00:15:56.720 I haven't gotten into that yet.
00:15:58.120 She's the writer, and she felt that she wasn't heard enough.
00:16:02.020 And the thing is, Blake Lively was the one who rewrote her script constantly, but still she decided to support her.
00:16:09.880 And she found out at the premiere that Ryan Reynolds had written that scene.
00:16:14.720 She didn't even know that it wasn't in the movie at that point.
00:16:17.680 But still, Justin Baldoni is the enemy here.
00:16:21.440 Todd Black says, no, I didn't know.
00:16:23.580 Thank you.
00:16:24.260 And Alex says, we'll share all with you both going forward.
00:16:28.120 And then there's this person called Home.
00:16:30.100 I don't know exactly who that is.
00:16:31.800 There's another person on this thread, probably someone else from Sony.
00:16:35.040 And then they talk about this dinner here.
00:16:36.960 And Alex says, dinner was lovely.
00:16:39.200 A lot of shit talking amongst Blake and Brandon and Isabella when she was included about Justin Baldoni.
00:16:47.100 Todd Black asks, and she says, yes, they all hate him.
00:16:51.460 It was them, me, my two best friends, Vivian Baker, makeup.
00:16:57.380 She's the makeup artist of Blake Lively, the one that testified that there was a culture of hugging on the set when Justin Baldoni said, well, that's weird because she was the one always running up to me and hugging me.
00:17:08.800 Anyway, she was at the dinner and also Blake's hair person, Jennifer, was at this dinner and Ryan's mom.
00:17:18.420 What was Ryan's mom doing at this dinner?
00:17:22.100 I mean, if that isn't manipulative to put Ryan's mom in there as well with all these other people from It Ends With Us.
00:17:28.960 And she says, Josh called and texted during dinner.
00:17:32.320 Josh Greenstein, also from Sony.
00:17:34.520 And she said how much she loved him.
00:17:37.480 She was in great spirits after all these horrible things have happened to her.
00:17:41.880 Well, anyways, this is about two months before the premiere of the movie.
00:17:46.020 So she didn't get the backlash from the promotion yet.
00:17:48.480 So keep that in mind.
00:17:49.360 Maybe that's why she was in great spirits.
00:17:51.500 But anyways, good.
00:17:53.320 Hopefully she will do what he needs her to do to open the film big time, says Todd.
00:17:58.960 And Alex says, it seems so.
00:18:00.760 She said how fun today was.
00:18:03.000 They were all happy to be together.
00:18:05.080 And then she says, Brandon is tightly wrapped around her finger.
00:18:10.420 Isabella is too, but not so obviously.
00:18:14.100 It must be so devastating for Justin to read these text messages.
00:18:18.820 As I said, there is a lot of new texts going back and forth between his team and himself
00:18:24.280 during the whole mess of the promotion of It Ends With Us.
00:18:27.940 And he's saying they're like, hey, Brandon and I had like a bromance going for a year.
00:18:34.240 He thought they were great friends.
00:18:36.160 And then all of a sudden he just went quiet.
00:18:39.040 This is just heartbreaking.
00:18:40.460 And it really shows what Blake was doing behind the scenes.
00:18:44.280 We'll text you as the screening gets underway.
00:18:46.980 We are on Roots as Alex.
00:18:48.640 And then they're just like talking about this screening and that it is a big success.
00:18:55.060 Wow, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:56.440 14 theaters full.
00:18:58.260 Wow, so amazing.
00:18:59.800 The fans are excited to be here.
00:19:01.980 And so these are obviously previews of the film because it didn't come out until two months after that.
00:19:07.260 So Blake is there showing her version of the movie, obviously.
00:19:11.280 And they're talking about how great this movie is.
00:19:13.640 And her friend, Alex Sack's friends love it so much.
00:19:17.220 And Alex comments here that a friend of hers really love it and think it's 11 out of 10, whatever.
00:19:23.040 And she says there's still stuff we'd want to do on the cut for sure.
00:19:26.540 But it's way better.
00:19:27.740 And if that's where we end up, I'm proud.
00:19:30.120 So this is what Blake Wively has been up to, obviously.
00:19:33.840 And she says here that Blake, Brandon, Isabella, etc.
00:19:36.540 are going to celebrate at their hotel room with Colleen.
00:19:39.980 I'll be going to sleep.
00:19:41.600 Brandon is going to blow, glow up over this.
00:19:45.020 Blake must be thrilled.
00:19:47.420 And Alex says yes on both.
00:19:49.320 She is.
00:19:50.200 And he is thirsty for it.
00:19:54.820 Talking about Brandon.
00:19:56.240 And then Alex says, check, it ends with us Instagram stories.
00:20:00.460 Blake is teaching him exactly what to do.
00:20:03.460 It's fascinating.
00:20:05.240 And she adds, oh, also, in case anyone was debating fixing the heart tattoo,
00:20:09.720 they've been talking about it publicly all weekend.
00:20:12.720 So there was a tattoo on Blake.
00:20:14.840 Blake's character in the film.
00:20:16.180 There was a lot of talk about that because it was a heart and there was an opening there
00:20:19.280 and it wasn't there, blah, blah, blah.
00:20:20.900 Long story.
00:20:21.440 But what's interesting here is how Blake Lively is basically grooming Brandon Sklenor.
00:20:26.860 And it's so obvious.
00:20:28.680 And Alex Sachs is saying that here.
00:20:31.580 She's grooming them.
00:20:32.900 Okay, as I said, there were 122 pages released of text messages between Justin Baldoni and his team.
00:20:39.200 We've seen a lot of these text messages before.
00:20:42.240 But reading through all of them, I did actually read through all of them yesterday.
00:20:46.920 One thing is so clear to me because through all of these texts,
00:20:51.580 there is no evidence that they were ever emphasizing or pushing any stories,
00:20:59.020 any creators, anything that would negatively impact Blake Lively.
00:21:03.960 They do talk about amplifying posts.
00:21:07.200 They do talk about pushing posts, but only posts that put Justin Baldoni in a positive light.
00:21:14.340 So what I find the most interesting here is what's missing.
00:21:17.860 And my theory is if they were really interested in smearing Blake Lively,
00:21:24.860 why is there no evidence, no conversations about my video that made her look like a bully
00:21:32.340 and that got so much traction online and that really harmed her reputation?
00:21:38.260 It really did.
00:21:39.480 And if they were after her, if they wanted to smear Blake Lively,
00:21:44.420 why didn't they amplify and push that video?
00:21:47.520 There's not even any text messages saying,
00:21:49.340 hey, look how rude she was to this reporter.
00:21:51.900 There's nothing.
00:21:53.280 So the fact that they didn't do that, which would be the most obvious thing to do,
00:21:59.000 I think that says it all.
00:22:00.900 That they have no evidence and there was no smear campaign.
00:22:04.460 All we've seen so far is just evidence of Blake Lively's smear campaign against Justin.
00:22:08.900 I mean, if it was the other way around here that she could have used his evidence against her,
00:22:14.520 it would be so obvious what they were doing because that's exactly what they did to Justin.
00:22:19.100 But they keep excusing that kind of behavior.
00:22:21.600 If you missed my episode where I read the text messages between Leslie Sloan
00:22:25.620 and different journalists at New York Post, at the Daily Mail and Us Weekly,
00:22:30.780 you should go and watch that.
00:22:32.080 I'll link that below as well because it's so revealing what they were doing
00:22:36.440 and how she terrorized these reporters to create stories that would benefit Blake Lively's narrative.
00:22:43.420 It's just like, it's there.
00:22:44.960 It's her own words asking reporters to take out quotes that would benefit Justin Baldoni from stories
00:22:51.300 and the journalist did it.
00:22:53.360 And also someone sent me a very interesting observation this morning.
00:22:56.800 Remember that driver that was everywhere yesterday or two days ago
00:23:00.260 when he talked about he was driving Blake and Justin and he listened into their conversation
00:23:05.520 and it was so inappropriate and Justin said so many inappropriate things.
00:23:10.240 And this person pointed out to me,
00:23:11.660 why didn't they ask Justin Baldoni about this in his deposition?
00:23:16.160 And I was looking through his deposition and I couldn't find anything about this incident either.
00:23:21.540 And so the question is, why did Blake Lively's attorneys not ask him about his version of this story
00:23:28.700 of what they actually talked about in the car?
00:23:31.900 Hmm, I wonder why.
00:23:34.620 Anyways, that's it for me, you guys.
00:23:36.520 I hope you enjoyed this episode.
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00:23:39.680 I will keep going through all this new and unsealed evidence.
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