Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - October 28, 2026


RIP Jennifer Lawrence

Something's Very WRONG Here !!

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00:00:00.000 What happened to the queen of realness?
00:00:04.260 And who is actually this person in these photos?
00:00:12.440 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.
00:00:14.300 I'm Sashdi Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller
00:00:17.000 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:21.740 Okay, what a mess. 0.82
00:00:24.380 Jennifer Lawrence just joined Instagram 0.99
00:00:26.780 and now we know why. 0.99
00:00:28.800 She wants to sell us some hair products that she spent years developing.
00:00:34.840 But for some reason, people are not buying this. 0.99
00:00:38.820 What happened to the queen of realness?
00:00:42.820 And who is actually this person in these photos that are trying to say that we will get our freedom back if we buy her shampoo?
00:00:53.720 Let's talk about it.
00:00:54.960 And talking about fake, let's look into what happened to Ari Emanuel's biography.
00:01:02.880 Remember the agent who was right or die for Blake and Ryan
00:01:07.080 and who fired Justin Baldoni the same day that New York Times article was published?
00:01:13.000 Well, according to sources, Ari Emanuel's New York Times bestseller
00:01:17.960 is not such a bestseller after all.
00:01:21.480 Did he just buy his own books?
00:01:23.620 This is hilarious.
00:01:26.360 Okay, so let's get into it.
00:01:28.640 Jennifer Lawrence is on the cover of The Cut in New York magazine,
00:01:33.340 and everyone is talking about her appearance.
00:01:36.460 The interview with her in the magazine is accompanied by a lot of new photographs of her,
00:01:41.940 and people are like, who is this person?
00:01:44.920 That is not Jennifer Lawrence.
00:01:46.600 She looks very different.
00:01:48.420 I agree, she does look very different.
00:01:50.520 Her hair looks amazing in all the photos, obviously.
00:01:53.620 she's doing this shoot to sell hair products and as someone pointed out online her eyes just look
00:02:00.220 empty and dead and no one's really talking about the hair products except the journalist who wrote
00:02:07.780 this story. A really long article about how Jennifer Lawrence managed to find this secret
00:02:15.520 magical ingredients that makes your hair look amazing i used to really like jennifer lawrence
00:02:24.220 you know sometimes they're cheering and they're screaming and other times they
00:02:27.580 see me get out of my car and they're like god i don't know why but i just hate her
00:02:31.180 um so you can't really rely on that you have to just rely on your reality which is like my friends
00:02:36.940 and my dog and my life but how do you get thicker skin i mean that's really hard
00:02:43.460 Yeah, it's hard. I mean, it takes time.
00:02:45.760 She was always unfiltered.
00:02:47.960 She always said things that backfired on her and then she laughed about it.
00:02:52.120 She was so relatable and that's also why she became such a huge star.
00:02:57.340 She's also a good actress, but she represented something really new,
00:03:02.340 something really refreshing.
00:03:04.120 She fell on her way up to receive her Oscar and she laughed and we laughed with her.
00:03:10.320 And every time she messed up, she owned it. 0.65
00:03:13.320 Now she's here with a haircare line called Mess.
00:03:17.500 M-E-S. 0.58
00:03:19.360 And I'm not sure if she called this haircare line Mess
00:03:22.720 and not J-Lo or something that has to do with her own name
00:03:26.340 because maybe she looked at Blake Lively and thought,
00:03:29.900 okay, if there's a big controversy surrounding me,
00:03:32.900 maybe my haircare line could still survive
00:03:34.960 if it doesn't have my name attached to it.
00:03:37.640 I don't know.
00:03:38.760 As you know, Blake Lively's Blake Brown products are still for sale in a lot of Target stores,
00:03:44.920 but they're like 80% off and no one's buying them.
00:03:49.260 But what's happening now with Jennifer Lawrence's new hair care line
00:03:52.860 is that no one's talking about her hair, everyone's just talking about her face.
00:03:57.940 Who is this person? What did she do to her face?
00:04:02.200 What's all the surgeries she's done? Why did she do this? 1.00
00:04:05.700 Why is everyone in Hollywood changing up their faces, rip the real Jennifer Lawrence? 1.00
00:04:11.680 And Jennifer Lawrence herself has been pretty open about things that she wants to do to 1.00
00:04:17.560 look young or to look hot. 0.77
00:04:19.480 She said in interviews prior to this that she has no issue with getting a facelift because
00:04:24.720 she wants to be a hot mom.
00:04:27.120 And I applaud her for being honest about these things.
00:04:30.000 Not like Kristen Wiig.
00:04:31.640 I don't know if you saw those photos of her when she joined Instagram recently as well.
00:04:36.400 And everyone's like, who is that person?
00:04:39.940 She looks like a completely different person.
00:04:43.220 I did not actually recognize her at all.
00:04:46.040 And I was looking at several photos and I'm like, who is this?
00:04:50.000 That's not Kristen Wiig.
00:04:51.520 This is a beautiful woman, but it's another person.
00:04:55.240 It's really weird.
00:04:56.680 And the same thing is happening right now to Jennifer Lawrence. 0.55
00:04:59.720 But what I reacted to mostly here is what Jennifer herself is saying to try and convince us to buy these hair products. 0.89
00:05:08.680 The products are designed to make life easier so you can get back to living.
00:05:12.440 To me, the most compelling thing a person can be is themselves.
00:05:15.420 That's what mess is built around.
00:05:17.560 Gathering that freedom, which is what mess is about.
00:05:20.880 It's like getting that time back and getting that freedom back.
00:05:23.900 Yes!
00:05:24.360 Yeah, so you should buy these products so you can get back to living your life.
00:05:30.080 So you can get back the time and the freedom.
00:05:33.480 I don't know.
00:05:34.680 I don't feel like I've ever lost my freedom or time because I spent time on shampooing my hair or putting any products in there.
00:05:44.800 To me, that just sounds like such a cliche of a tagline, like get your freedom back.
00:05:50.680 Come on.
00:05:51.280 most people do not have time to think about their hair that much especially if you're trying to be 0.99
00:05:57.740 relatable for moms who have a lot to deal with in their lives why would they think that their
00:06:04.900 freedom was taken away from them because of their hair and I find that especially funny because I 1.00
00:06:10.960 don't see any freedom of beauty or beauty standards in the shoots that Jennifer Lawrence did for the 0.85
00:06:18.200 cuts. 15 people are tagged in the Instagram post about this cover shoot. 15 people made her look
00:06:26.240 like that. What kind of freedom from beauty is that? I just find it so funny that anyone's 1.00
00:06:31.420 expecting anyone to buy these taglines. And actually, I think this is something that Jennifer
00:06:39.060 Lawrence herself would have called out a few years ago when she was the outspoken one who made fun
00:06:45.960 of beauty standards and said that she could never fit into this. And now she's selling us this 0.96
00:06:52.280 cliche. Yeah. And she says the most compelling thing a person can be is being themselves.
00:06:59.120 That's what mess is built around. I always find that so funny that being yourself,
00:07:06.020 everyone is just themselves. I mean, you can try to look like someone else or be inspired by them.
00:07:13.280 but what are you if you're not yourself?
00:07:15.460 She's selling this as being yourself
00:07:17.520 while she's not herself selling it.
00:07:20.220 How is that in any way taking back your freedom?
00:07:22.840 I just don't get it.
00:07:24.320 I feel like this whole stunt trying to jump on this wagon
00:07:27.880 that every other celebrity is doing these days
00:07:30.700 trying to sell us products because they look beautiful
00:07:33.860 because of course they have millions of dollars
00:07:36.520 to make them look beautiful
00:07:38.060 and then they're like hey I'll give you parts of my beauty
00:07:41.060 if you buy these products.
00:07:43.280 you will have hair like mine.
00:07:45.940 Well, we know that is an illusion.
00:07:48.240 So this is what they're saying on their Instagram.
00:07:51.580 So this is a statement from Jennifer Lawrence herself
00:07:54.100 that Mess, her product line, is posting on their Instagram.
00:07:58.080 It said, or Jen said,
00:08:00.240 somewhere along the way, beauty stopped fitting into our lives
00:08:03.780 and started asking our lives to fit around it.
00:08:07.740 I don't think that happened to anyone that I know 0.99
00:08:11.200 that beauty started asking our lives to fit around it?
00:08:16.520 I don't know. 0.95
00:08:17.580 Is it me or is this just ridiculous? 0.79
00:08:20.040 And then she continues to say more products, more steps, more maintenance.
00:08:24.800 We started mess because we believe beauty should fit into your life,
00:08:29.500 not the other way around.
00:08:31.620 So you shouldn't fit into beauty, but beauty should fit into your life.
00:08:36.320 Think about that for a second. 0.89
00:08:38.520 And the thing is, she's selling a lot of different products here.
00:08:40.980 and they're pretty expensive as well they like you can buy a bundle and it's 120 dollars for
00:08:50.400 three products and she's saying here that you can just make it simple because you know you get your
00:08:56.060 freedom back but then you need three products and they're 120 dollars which is really steep
00:09:01.540 then they continue in this post saying this is unbothered beauty what does that even mean
00:09:09.600 what is unbothered beauty and then they're introducing us to some of the staff
00:09:14.740 one is that meet the multitask repair mask put it on dry hair let it repair while you live your life
00:09:21.740 so while you're living your life your hair is getting repaired by these products i mean you
00:09:29.320 don't have to stop living your life anymore when you're having a hair mask on and there's another
00:09:34.860 option here saying or slick it back your hair for a chic wet hair look that lasts all day who wants
00:09:43.120 a wet hair look these days i mean i remember we did that in the 90s maybe it's back in fashion
00:09:50.100 if it is i didn't notice but walking around with what looks like wet hair all day um no thank you
00:09:57.040 anyways i was looking through a lot of the comments on this article in the cut and people
00:10:04.100 are saying things like, I always think it's admirable to start a company, but where did the
00:10:09.660 name mess come from? Do I want my hair to be a mess after I use the shampoo? It's like calling
00:10:15.880 a product for constipation shit. The name also makes me think, meh, sorry, but she had to expect 1.00
00:10:23.360 this. True, a very strange name for a shampoo. I saw an interview with a scientist that Jennifer
00:10:31.840 Lawrence worked with to create this product and she said that this was Jennifer's suggestion and
00:10:38.580 they went through a lot of other options but they ended up with mess because she likes it I don't 0.96
00:10:43.740 know that was the explanation anyways another one says mess sounds like an illness but she looks
00:10:49.380 great someone says I love J-Law but we don't need any more seller beauty brands literally what the
00:10:56.720 F. Someone else says, I don't know who this stranger is, but it's not J-Law. And then someone
00:11:02.520 else says the hot mess. And then this is my favorite one, maybe less beauty products and
00:11:08.580 more medical research for women. I couldn't agree more. Why don't these celebrities with so much 1.00
00:11:15.540 money and power and so much influence use their influence to something a little more valuable 1.00
00:11:22.260 to other women than saying that you can spend $120 on these hair products and you're going to look 1.00
00:11:30.320 just as fabulous as me and get your freedom back. And I also find this backstory that she created,
00:11:36.180 it's such a cliche of a marketing concept. Like, okay, you always have to have your story
00:11:42.120 and you have to tell your story that she's doing in this interview. It's a really, really long
00:11:47.880 article about how she came across this need to have these hair products and especially because
00:11:56.460 she's an actress and she's mentioning one situation where she colored her hair like four 1.00
00:12:02.440 times in a day. Very relatable for most people that you have to call your hair four times in
00:12:07.940 the day and of course that is damaging for your hair. There's no question about that but I just
00:12:12.440 wish she would be more real about everything tell a real story like hey i want to make more money
00:12:19.300 on selling hair products and i want to get into a different industry in case my career doesn't work
00:12:24.300 out i always have this to fall back on and that's why i'm doing it i mean i don't get it why people
00:12:29.360 like her also has to jump on this there's also criticism out there from people in the beauty
00:12:36.620 industry saying like hey we're tired of all these celebrities jumping in front of the line 1.00
00:12:41.520 while a regular person can develop an interesting and good shampoo they don't have a chance when a
00:12:49.060 celebrity brings something to the market they already have the audience there and they know
00:12:54.120 they have their fan base who will buy whatever they put out there and that's not fair i try to
00:13:01.160 look at some of the ingredients here and comparing them to other products i don't know if there's
00:13:06.400 anything in here that's more amazing than any other products. I couldn't really find out why
00:13:11.100 they're working so well from the promotions that Jennifer Lawrence and Mess put out on their own
00:13:17.460 Instagram. One of the promo videos there was a bunch of different people in different sizes,
00:13:25.280 ages and colors, dancing freely on a stage. They all had hair, but it wasn't like groomed or
00:13:33.700 anything just to show that hey we have diversity i don't know i'm just like why are these people
00:13:40.580 dancing here if i'm going to spend 120 on some hair products i just want to know how they work
00:13:47.200 and if they smell good yeah you can dance as much as you want to uh i wish jennifer lawrence the
00:13:53.120 best as i said i used to really like her i feel like she's taking a different direction now and 0.58
00:13:59.600 she's buying more into that celebrity culture that we don't like so much anymore and it comes
00:14:07.120 off as unauthentic and that's really sad to me because I felt that she was one of the rare
00:14:12.160 real ones that was left in this industry and now I don't know is she gone too? Anyways let's talk
00:14:21.300 about Ari Emanuel the agent who fired Justin Baldoni the same day that New York Times article
00:14:28.760 about Blake Lively being S-aged on the set of It Ends With Us
00:14:33.200 and how Justin Baldoni and his team created a smear campaign against her.
00:14:38.200 So maybe you don't know, but Ari Emanuel, who is the big boss over at WME,
00:14:44.000 he was the inspiration for the crazy, outrageous character in Entourage,
00:14:51.400 Ari Gold, played by Jeremy Piven.
00:14:55.200 And about a month ago, on September 22nd, he released his memoir.
00:15:01.060 It's called Roll the Calls.
00:15:04.480 And he was really proud at bragging about how it became the New York Times bestseller,
00:15:12.560 number two on the bestseller list.
00:15:15.500 But now someone looked into that, and it seems like there were things happening behind the
00:15:21.900 scenes here so that Ari Emanuel's book looked a bit more popular than it actually was. I also
00:15:29.340 have to mention here that when we were introduced to Ryan Reynolds' text messages that he sent to
00:15:34.780 his agents over at WME, Ari Emanuel's company, it was very clear that he put a lot of pressure
00:15:44.620 on the agency to fire Justin Baldoni but it is also clear that Ari Emanuel had no problem
00:15:51.900 just firing one of his clients without looking into any of the legal stuff and without waiting
00:15:58.760 for any evidence to come out in this case. And also side note here they're still representing
00:16:04.820 Jared Leto. Anyways the Ankler a big newsletter in Hollywood came out with this story a few days ago
00:16:11.680 saying, did Ari Emanuel buy his way onto the New York Times bestseller list?
00:16:17.620 Roll the calls, hit number two on the paper's list.
00:16:22.500 But Publishers Weekly excluded it after Bookscan flagged excessive bulk sales.
00:16:29.100 So there are two ways to measure if your book is a bestseller.
00:16:33.660 You have the New York Times bestselling list,
00:16:35.840 which basically just puts together all the sales the book made,
00:16:39.840 and then you make it to the list according to how many copies were sold.
00:16:44.700 And then you have the publisher's weekly list.
00:16:47.340 And they look more into the details.
00:16:49.700 If you sell bulks of your book, they're flagging that,
00:16:53.960 saying that, okay, that could come from, for example, Ari Emanuel himself.
00:16:59.980 And they're saying here that Ari's book didn't even get into the list
00:17:04.760 of the 25 titles that were bestsellers, according to Publishers Weekly. They're saying here that
00:17:11.960 on the Publishers Weekly list, it didn't appear at all after Bookscan, the data service behind
00:17:18.360 Publishers Weekly's rankings, determined that too many of its sales came in bulk. And it says here
00:17:26.100 that Roll the Calls was published on September 22nd with a buzzy roll-up that propelled it to
00:17:30.740 number two on the New York Times bestselling list. And it says here that naturally that got a lot of
00:17:35.900 attention in Hollywood. Everyone's like, wow, he's a bestseller. I mean, I believe that most people
00:17:42.080 in the US have no idea who Ari Emanuel is. I didn't know much about him myself, and I've been
00:17:48.260 a part of Hollywood for so many years, and I thought it was a little surprising that someone
00:17:52.620 like him sold so many books. Then the Publishers Weekly list dropped just a few days later, it says
00:17:59.420 here. And unlike the New York Times, which compiles its list from sales reported by retailers,
00:18:05.260 it doesn't identify, run through what it calls propriety vetting and audit protocols,
00:18:12.940 collaborative reporting, and other statistical determinations. Publishers Weekly bases its list
00:18:20.840 on straight sales number from BookScan. The New York Times list gets more public attention because
00:18:26.320 of the prestige attached to being a New York Times bestselling author. And then they say here I asked
00:18:32.140 a source with access to book scan data to check the sales for all the calls. And they said that
00:18:38.040 he sold 17,397 copies during the first week. And that should have put him on number four
00:18:47.440 on the publisher weekly list. And it says here that the number one selling book was Charles
00:18:52.840 Spencer's swan song Diana my sister which sold 55,000 copies that week and the journalist from
00:19:01.240 the Ankler said that they reached out to Bookscanned and asked for more details about this
00:19:06.440 and they said that there was a significant percentage of bulk sales that tripped its
00:19:12.520 flagging thresholds and then this is really funny page six picked this up and they picked it up
00:19:18.960 because they got an email from Harvey Weinstein about it.
00:19:22.080 Harvey is not a fan of Ari Emanuel,
00:19:25.060 and Ari is not a fan of Harvey.
00:19:27.120 It says here that Harvey-Arvey feud continues from behind the bars
00:19:31.800 as disgraced film executive Basha's super agent's book.
00:19:37.520 So this is what Harvey is doing behind bars.
00:19:39.720 If you were wondering, it says here,
00:19:41.860 a few weeks after Harvey Weinstein was sentenced to 15 years behind bars for SA,
00:19:46.500 the disgraced movie mogul sent us a tip from prison about Ari Emanuel's recent book,
00:19:52.120 alleging that the super agent inflates his sales.
00:19:56.620 So this is the email that Harvey Weinstein sent to page six through his publisher.
00:20:02.280 Harvey wants me to let you know that Ari bought up copies of his own book
00:20:07.200 to inflate the book sales number, said an email from an intermediary.
00:20:12.680 And then they continued to say he said it was a page six story.
00:20:16.100 So here you go. Here is the quote from Harvey. Either way, they say here, a publisher pro told
00:20:23.660 us this week of Emmanuel's book, Ari's book sales have dropped significantly and just fell
00:20:28.680 off the New York Times nonfiction bestseller list after just three weeks. Not good. And pretty
00:20:36.580 surprising, the insider added, now that it has fallen so fast, many people are saying they've
00:20:43.100 heard that he personally arranged a lot of bulk sales. And then someone came out here to defend
00:20:48.840 Ari, saying that sources also pointed out that Emmanuel may have been unfairly tagged as a bulk
00:20:55.460 buyer because of the live events he did to promote the memoir. The reason Bookscan may have noted
00:21:01.420 this is because, for example, when people purchased tickets and a book to see him with Rachel Maddow,
00:21:07.560 that counted as a bulk buy used a media source of course Ari is going to come out and defend this
00:21:16.720 and say that hey this happens because you know I was at a book event and people bought my book
00:21:23.580 there what about the other people who are on this list did they not go to any book events did they
00:21:29.520 not attend any events where they sold a lot of books yeah I would not be surprised if this
00:21:36.200 actually happened if aria manuelian bought all of the books himself anyway that's it for me today
00:21:42.580 guys i hope you enjoyed this episode let me know what you think in the comment section are you
00:21:46.900 going to try dennifer lauren's new hair products and are you going to buy aria manuel's book did
00:21:52.920 you ever hear about him before the it ends with us drama and do you believe that he bought his
00:21:57.660 own books let me know and of course a big thank you to my executive producer oscar he's already
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