Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - January 09, 2026


Taylor's TEXTS are DEVASTATING !!!


Episode Stats

Length

30 minutes

Words per Minute

161.85355

Word Count

4,876

Sentence Count

3

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

Blake Levenson and Taylor swift are suing each other for the release of their unedited, unedited text messages between them. Blake is suing Taylor Swift for negligence and alleges that she was set up in a trap by her co-star, Justin Baldoni.


Transcript

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00:00:29.340 life insurance company blake lively believes that both her and taylor swift are both in
00:00:34.720 physical danger if you get to see their text messages
00:00:38.220 hi and welcome to flossom talk i'm tashi floor journalist hollywood twist teller and your voice
00:00:48.300 of reason in a town built on delusion blake lively is now faring for her life and taylor swift's life
00:00:56.080 she's saying that if the text messages between the two of them get released to the public they are both
00:01:02.860 in physical danger also the news broke everywhere today this text message that justin baldoni sent to
00:01:10.500 his agent danny greenberg has been unsealed and we can now see how justin already back then
00:01:19.520 suspected that blake was setting him up in a trap this is really revealing also we have to continue
00:01:27.020 talking about some of the more unsealed texts and communication that came out yesterday as i said
00:01:33.640 what blake lovely is doing now is basically dragging everyone else down with her because now we can see
00:01:40.500 how hypocritical all these people are and how they are backstabbing each other everyone from publicist
00:01:48.440 management companies sony the distributor her co-stars journalists she is bringing them all down
00:01:57.540 and this makes them look so terrible and i'm going to share some communication with you guys that went on
00:02:03.480 inside of justin's crisis team this is pretty bad also us weekly did the most ridiculous story so far
00:02:11.040 where they've talked to some experts who think they know where the public stands in this legal feud
00:02:17.240 it's not very hard to find out who's behind that article okay so let's get into this text message
00:02:22.620 from justin baldoni there were a couple of them back and forth uh where he's talking to his agent
00:02:28.020 danny greenberg who's actually one of the people who's been honest in his deposition i'm not saying that
00:02:34.160 people have been lying but there are some people that are contradicting each other here at least danny
00:02:39.160 greenberg has been quoted saying that blake was extorting justin and this text that made headlines
00:02:47.120 today in people magazine tmz in daily mail radar online everyone picked this up so this is the text
00:02:53.300 that justin sent to his agent he said hey man had a really really bad week she talking about blake had
00:03:01.940 the audacity to email me directly and invite me to a meeting at her house alone if i chose first of
00:03:09.320 all inviting someone to your house someone you're really scared of that's creating a toxic work
00:03:13.820 environment i don't see the logic there i would never invite someone to my personal space if i felt
00:03:19.840 uncomfortable around them anyways he's continuing to say she's refused a body double which now sony and
00:03:26.780 todd have to jump in to make sure that happens because that's just setting me up for a trap although
00:03:33.940 she's making me have one he continues she's rejected all my storyboards for the intimate scenes so he has
00:03:44.360 to get involved because she's trying to keep all of both of our clothes on for the big love scene which
00:03:51.340 is just ridiculous if you know the book the whole thing is just a giant cluster f
00:03:56.540 and yet i'm doing my best to stay positive although it's been very draining on me and time consuming
00:04:03.500 over this break to be dealing with an actress who is rewriting the writer and director i've gone
00:04:12.320 through the whole script i'm giving her 95 of what she wants for peace but this is just a brutal
00:04:19.760 experience so let's see how blake lively's team is trying to twist this around this is so fascinating you guys
00:04:29.460 so people magazine did a story here saying justin baldoni claims in unsealed texts blake lively was setting
00:04:37.640 me up for a trap by refusing body double in love scene so a source close to lively is commenting on this
00:04:46.820 here hello leslie sloan um saying these messages were sent only after blake had laid out in detail
00:04:54.420 the numerous ways that baldoni and heath had created a hostile work environment on the set after they
00:05:00.620 agreed to more than a dozen protections for the safety of the cast and crew and just days ahead of
00:05:07.860 the january 4 meeting at which these protections would be discussed before filming resumed that has nothing
00:05:14.520 to do with this text where he's saying that she took over 95 of the movie and that she refused to have
00:05:21.620 a body double he said that he agreed to have a body double then this person says the text chain
00:05:27.980 underscore baldoni's retaliatory intent what about that text says that he is retaliatory please point
00:05:37.660 out where in this text that he's saying he wants to get back at her for something and the source
00:05:44.040 continues saying it reflects his private anger over the same safeguards that he had said in public were
00:05:52.040 both reasonable and essential and which he later admitted in his deposition were reasonable including
00:05:58.960 his resentment for having to show up on all hands meeting he had also agreed to reading this just
00:06:07.240 really makes me furious to be honest i'm trying to keep my feelings in check while i go through all
00:06:13.480 of this stuff but when i read it this morning i was saying to magnus i was like my blood really boils
00:06:18.740 when i read how they're trying to twist this it's so upsetting to me how they're trying to manipulate
00:06:25.000 every fact that comes out by saying that this just proves that he's an angry man and as i said before
00:06:32.460 i don't even know justin baldoni i'm not here to protect him but watching these manipulative maneuvers
00:06:37.820 from her team is just disgusting i have to say i'm just and of course justin's people did not
00:06:46.020 comment on this who's always commenting on these stories blake lively's team and they're saying that
00:06:52.260 the smear campaign against her is still ongoing i mean it's so ridiculous i mean i don't understand
00:06:58.460 how these people sleep at night the people who are defending this kind of behavior it's also really
00:07:05.420 annoying that they get away with just putting together statements instead of actually answering
00:07:10.880 questions like the fact that she wants both people to be fully clothed in a love scene in an r-rated
00:07:16.640 movie about dv so this all hands meeting that they're talking about is that january 4th meeting where
00:07:22.640 they had to sign 17 points that blake lively wrote down no more of this no more of that with all the
00:07:30.320 things that she already cherry picked and took out of context to make it look terrible when it was
00:07:35.900 released to the press in her lawsuit anyways let's jump to taylor swift's text messages that blake is
00:07:43.960 terrified of she's now saying that her life and taylor swift's life would be in danger if the public
00:07:50.680 gets to see these text messages i wonder why but before we get into that oscar and i have a message
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00:09:52.880 that leg lily is terrified for you to see because of course she was one of the people who wrote a letter
00:09:59.140 to the judge yesterday amongst all these other ones that i talked about in my episode yesterday
00:10:03.840 and the reason why everyone did it at the same time was because the deadline was two days ago
00:10:09.760 and all of them had to tell the judge why certain parts of the evidence that justin baldoni had filed
00:10:16.340 needed to stay redacted or needed to be sealed and blake although the judge already ruled that those text
00:10:25.560 messages between taylor swift and blake lively should be public she is still fighting it and she's saying
00:10:32.960 here this is so ridiculous so she's saying here that release of the information subjects to miss
00:10:39.340 lively's limited redactions may increase the risk of exposure and in the case of at least one third
00:10:47.700 party continued exposure to harassment in the press and or social media and poses security safety and
00:10:58.880 privacy risks protecting the physical safety of third parties is a higher value that warrants continued
00:11:09.260 sealing so she's basically saying because this third party is obviously taylor swift so she's saying
00:11:16.460 here that sealing this and continue to keep it secret from the public is so important because otherwise
00:11:22.260 this person would be in physical danger i wonder why this person would be in physical danger if we saw the
00:11:28.000 text messages that makes me very curious about these text messages what are they talking about that
00:11:35.320 would make people so furious with them that they will fear for their lives to be honest with you i think
00:11:43.220 taylor swift has a pretty good security around her she is basically the biggest pop star in the world
00:11:49.860 but i do think that she obviously said something that could harm her reputation and definitely something
00:11:57.020 that could harm blake lively's reputation further i truly hope that the judge here is doing his job
00:12:04.740 because he is here for the public and this is in public interest to see these text messages and he already
00:12:11.700 said that as you know so fingers crossed that these text messages will be unsealed she's also fighting
00:12:21.000 of course to keep the text messages or communication between ryan reynolds and his agent at wme
00:12:29.120 sealed that is pretty obvious why she wants that sealed but she's saying here that
00:12:34.620 third party communications should be sealed except from his lively's proposed limited redaction
00:12:40.600 private communications between third party ryan reynolds and it's and his talent agent mr reynolds was named as a
00:12:48.600 defendant in the wayfarer defendants now dismissed litigation but he's neither a party to this
00:12:54.160 litigation nor has he substantially participated in it well i think that's very debatable but of course
00:13:02.720 they don't want these text messages to come out because they're damaging if there was nothing damaging
00:13:08.460 in those text messages they wouldn't have a problem sharing them as we've seen this whole time
00:13:13.440 justin baldoni's team the wayfarer parties had no issues sharing all their evidence with us they have
00:13:20.800 shared all their text messages emails they've been like we are here for transparency we want to share
00:13:27.320 our evidence with you and as you know blake lively has done everything in our power to keep things sealed
00:13:33.380 and to keep this secrecy i remember when she was subpoenaing 107 content creators and she made it look
00:13:40.980 like in the court filings that a lot of these people had contact with justin baldoni or the wayfarer parties
00:13:49.120 she redacted all the names so people would start guessing who on that list had any contact with the
00:13:57.300 wayfarer and as we know no one did except andy signor over at popcorn planet who had reached out to them
00:14:04.420 for a comment working as a journalist doing his job but apart from that no one else on that list had
00:14:11.300 any contact with any of the parties here and we also know how she was doxing people left and right
00:14:19.300 until the judge actually had to step in and stop it she was dodging people's home addresses phone numbers
00:14:26.440 she even posted pictures of paris hilton's kids on the court docket not giving a damn about anyone
00:14:33.720 else's privacy but when it comes to hers it's a risk for her life because she doesn't want to show
00:14:40.160 the evidence to us to prove her case that she is bringing to a public court that our taxpayer money
00:14:46.800 is paying for because she feels like she's a celebrity and she should be treated differently okay let's go to
00:14:54.720 another leslie sloan piece that was just published in us weekly so this is so ridiculous us weekly did
00:15:03.380 this story saying that who's really winning expert says blake lively is way up in one year justin
00:15:11.340 baldoni legal war this is exclusive by the way they're saying here this just proves to me how much
00:15:18.040 panic there is in blake lively's camp right now as you know this month there's going to be so much
00:15:24.320 evidence unsealed and as you can see she is fearing for her life that her evidence will come out and
00:15:31.480 this story here is just so one-sided and so planted so as weekly say here that they spoke into one
00:15:38.260 spokesperson from baldoni's team and one from lively's team and lively's source tells us weekly that
00:15:45.420 as a mom of four she has to emphasize that the actress puts on a brave and positive face for her
00:15:52.180 family and work will work but the retaliation has taken a toll the retaliation has taken a toll i think
00:15:59.960 her own lawsuit has taken a toll on her blake is the exact wrong person to attack with retaliation
00:16:05.820 and shame tactics because no matter how much pain she's in the truth integrity and making something
00:16:12.760 positive for others out of all she's experienced is what drives her so she's going to make something
00:16:21.520 positive for others i'm waiting for that please let me know in the comment section if you've seen
00:16:27.280 blake lively do anything that's positive for others during this entire year and they continue she's
00:16:34.080 resilient and won't be intimidated she will stay the course until she feels justice has been served
00:16:40.860 and until she is 650 million dollars richer she didn't say that anyways a source here is talking
00:16:47.900 for baldoni and his team saying that they've had to continuously try to show that protecting themselves
00:16:53.340 and their family is simply that and not retaliation the source add that they just want this nightmare to
00:17:00.040 be over for them they believe the public has caught on the truth and the reality of what happened and
00:17:06.860 they're ready to for their day in court okay so let's see what these experts are saying they talked
00:17:12.960 to some legal experts here and they're saying there that blake lively has some advantages because
00:17:18.020 baldoni and the wafer filed a countersuit that was dismissed so now it's only her lawsuit and they
00:17:24.420 only have to defend themselves that's quite obvious to me but anyways what's interesting here is this
00:17:29.800 person this pr expert called mark burkowski who's talking about public opinion here and he obviously
00:17:37.080 has no idea what he's talking about listen to this quote from a pr expert talking about the court of
00:17:44.580 public opinion before i actually quote him i want to say what is the court of public opinion is the court
00:17:50.980 of public opinion what you read in the headlines in mainstream media is that considered public opinion or is
00:17:59.080 public opinion what people say on the internet on social media in the comment section is that public
00:18:06.340 opinion or is public opinion what's being fed to mainstream media by sources and statements from
00:18:14.880 lawyers is that public opinion let's see what mark burkowski says he says lively has controlled the
00:18:21.840 narrative largely because baldoni torch his own credibility early and then kept adding petrol he kept
00:18:31.560 coming with receipts so people changed their minds this pr expert definitely has not followed this case
00:18:38.320 then he says the new york times expose froze him in the public imagination and every subsequent overreach
00:18:46.280 the mega lawsuits the lawsuit the swift subpoena only reinforced the sense of a man fighting gravity so he's
00:18:55.700 obviously basing all of this on the headlines that he read on tmz daily mail new york post and maybe
00:19:03.500 people magazine and then he continues to say lively's camp hasn't been flawless oh okay but they've been
00:19:11.020 disciplined disciplined consistent and professionally insulated oh oh my god okay a year on the broad
00:19:20.460 perception hasn't shifted she looks strategic and steady he looks like he's still trying to claw back a story
00:19:29.680 that slipped away long ago mark you need to stop just reading the news and the headlines and go online
00:19:39.500 and see what the public opinion really is this is so ridiculous when they're asking these experts
00:19:46.060 about what's going on in the public opinion and he's obviously living in another decade here because he has
00:19:52.680 no idea what public opinion really is anyways before i get into all those text messages i just wanted to
00:19:59.920 share this that i saw on reddit this morning remember that text message that ryan reynolds sent to
00:20:04.860 justin baldoni which was really nice they had just started getting to know each other and justin had
00:20:10.800 sent a really nice message to ryan reynolds and then he responded and that text message was published
00:20:18.400 in justin baldoni's lawsuits and to refresh everyone's memory this is what ryan said he said
00:20:24.380 sorry for the delay what a loving and generous message thank you we're both looking forward to getting
00:20:30.260 to know you and your family better to me that's a little bit like why do you want to learn to know
00:20:35.760 the family better of a person you're doing a professional project with i think that's a little
00:20:40.100 i don't know anyways he says we're also big fans over here since before we met and more so after
00:20:47.940 you've been a wonderful collaborator with blake and that meant a great deal to both of us
00:20:54.660 being a stand-up person is everything and you've been just that since day one thank you i happen to
00:21:02.780 adore you justin guess when this message was sent to justin this message was sent to him after
00:21:13.060 justin had shared this traumatizing thing with blake lively when ryan reynolds was present
00:21:20.300 that he was circumcised that's how traumatizing that was for blake and ryan that ryan sent this
00:21:27.520 message to justin after that that again proves to me how this lawsuit came together that they sat down
00:21:34.040 like okay what can we sue them for we can't sue them for smearing you blake but we can sue them
00:21:39.320 for retaliation if there was any sh on the set and the lawyer said hey can you come up with anything
00:21:46.040 inappropriate he said let's write all of them down and then ryan was like yeah he shared that he was
00:21:51.020 circumcised remember blake we were just so traumatized by it and i as a husband was really
00:21:55.820 worried that you had to work with a man like that and that's also why i read this lovely text message
00:22:00.620 to him afterwards yeah it's all falling apart in front of our eyes guys anyways so all these text
00:22:08.460 messages that were also unsealed as part of evidence are kind of revealing in a terrible way for all
00:22:15.580 these publicists and crisis pr people that are involved here i went through all of them yesterday
00:22:20.920 and i was like these people are just terrible and they're just talking shit about each other okay so
00:22:27.800 this is a text exchange between katie case and brianna i think both of them work for tag pr with
00:22:34.260 melissa nathan katie case has also been mentioned in the lawsuit against stephanie jones who worked for
00:22:41.740 jones works or who owns jones work who's also suing melissa nathan from tag and accusing her of creating
00:22:49.300 a smear website against her anyways so the conversation between these two goes on and on about how they
00:22:56.980 don't want to work on a sunday and they think it's so disrespectful that they have to work on a sunday
00:23:02.320 and they're really over justin baldoni and they're like oh have we heard this story how many times now
00:23:09.020 and one of them is saying f this guy you know we're done working with him after the premiere
00:23:14.480 they obviously think justin is a bit of a pain here and they're not hiding their feelings this is so
00:23:21.500 terrible right now because they're all supposed to be on the same team here and this looks so bad that
00:23:26.760 they're bad that they're bad mouthing their client like this in text messages very very unprofessional
00:23:33.940 they're also bad mouthing jennifer abel justin baldoni's publicist they're saying god i can't
00:23:40.400 wait to be trapped in a room with jennifer abel and then one says what an idiot she is and they
00:23:46.280 repeatedly use emojis of eye rolling they're truly disrespecting her going back and forth here and
00:23:53.920 especially emphasizing that she doesn't have kids so she doesn't understand how hard it is for them
00:23:59.840 to jump on a phone call on a sunday afternoon because they have to take care of their families
00:24:04.880 so basically they're just complaining a lot bitching to each other during this whole thread and it's not
00:24:10.840 a really good look there are a few interesting things that they're saying though so after they
00:24:16.460 were sued there's also a thread between them from after uh blake lively filed her lawsuit and then
00:24:24.240 brie is saying here that it just eats me up that we for this first time ever did nothing and we sued
00:24:33.200 as if we were knocking on doors rallying people against her i think that adds up to the evidence
00:24:39.840 here that they did nothing to smear blake lively as we've seen there's no evidence of it but it also
00:24:45.320 puts them in a terrible light because you know they're also involved in this lawsuit against rebel
00:24:51.220 wilson because the producer of rebel wilson's movie is suing her for retaliation and for a smear
00:24:58.320 campaign and they worked for rebel wilson as well and if they're saying here this is the first time
00:25:04.820 ever with capital letters that they didn't do anything that is something that they might be able to use
00:25:11.800 against them in another case melissa nathan is also saying here that her sister called her and is
00:25:18.600 furious with her so her sister sarah nathan is a journalist who worked for the new york post
00:25:25.380 and she got dragged into this because of course melissa was a source for stories for her sister
00:25:32.080 she was a journalist and she's saying here that her sister will accuse her if she loses her job
00:25:38.340 she also says an interesting thing here she's saying it's like celebrities suing publicists for doing
00:25:44.400 their job this is going to backfire on their faces so hard and it is but it's also backfiring and all
00:25:54.240 these publicists that are involved i wouldn't work with any of these people a lot of what they're doing
00:25:59.740 here seems very dishonest to me and very disloyal why would you talk behind your clients back we've seen
00:26:07.120 jennifer abel do the same we've seen melissa nathan do it before so there's been a lot of really
00:26:12.220 sketchy things going on behind the scenes here and now we get to see what all these people are really
00:26:18.040 like they're talking a lot of strategy here talking to different uh outlets they're talking about
00:26:24.400 they're naming journalists in people magazine and new york post and they're also saying make sure that
00:26:30.500 this journalist knows that leslie sloan blake lively's publicist was financially backed by harvey
00:26:36.960 weinstein the thing is there's nothing illegal about that that's exactly what blake lively's team
00:26:41.920 have been doing justin baldoni all the time bringing up things that he said and did in the past
00:26:46.620 or bringing up facts from his past and trying to use it against him they're also saying that blake
00:26:51.860 lively is now being compared to jlo on tiktok there was this huge riot against jlo on tiktok just
00:26:58.860 before all of this started happening to blake lively so they're saying here that that is not
00:27:03.580 a great look anyways there are pages up and down with communication between these people i'm not
00:27:09.920 going to read from it it is a little boring but i think that it says a lot about who these people
00:27:15.040 really are for me looking at all of this i'm very disappointed in all these people i feel like it's
00:27:20.520 really sad and it must be very sad for justin and jamie heath to read these text messages where
00:27:26.700 they're actually talking behind their backs and how are you going to face these people again after
00:27:31.800 this and be like hey yeah i saw what you said about me in those text messages anyways as i said yesterday
00:27:37.760 if there's any update on this mean mom group that ashley tisdale wrote about in the cut she wrote an
00:27:44.920 op-ed i spoke about it yesterday about her mom group and that they froze her out and didn't invite her
00:27:51.920 to things and she felt she wasn't cool enough and she was calling them mean but anyways we now know
00:27:57.520 the people in this group were other famous mothers and one of them was hillary duff and yesterday her
00:28:03.960 husband came out with this post which i thought was quite hilarious and as i said yesterday we don't
00:28:10.900 know the whole story here maybe they were mean girls towards her or there's another option here that
00:28:16.500 ashley tisdale that they didn't want to hang out with her because they didn't like her or because
00:28:22.680 she did or said things that they didn't approve of we don't know that but anyways hillary duff's
00:28:27.960 husband came out with this parody yesterday he basically did this photoshop thing which is really
00:28:34.580 well done i'm sure he used ai to do this where he put his head where ashley's head was in the photo
00:28:41.820 shoot for that op-ed and he's titling it a mom group tell all through a father's eyes and he's
00:28:50.180 saying when you're the most self-obsessed tone deaf person on earth other moms tend to shift focus to
00:28:58.360 their actual to their actual toddlers so yes they think that she's tone deaf and self-obsessed so let's
00:29:07.160 see how this continues there was also a story here in daily mail that hillary duff's sister that she's
00:29:14.780 not speaking to anymore liked ashley tisdale's post about this so her sister is supporting ashley so
00:29:23.840 this is turning into a very interesting and very ridiculous feud that shouldn't be public i feel like
00:29:29.600 you should always air your differences in private especially if you are a public person what's the point
00:29:34.980 this is just going to blow up and make everyone feel really uncomfortable and they will feel the
00:29:40.080 need to come out and defend themselves and i understand that it's not cool to be called a
00:29:45.280 mean girl anyways that's it from you guys i hope you enjoyed this episode and as i said i will keep
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