Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - November 11, 2026


The Backlash Is Out of Control !!

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00:00:00 The way people reacted to this made him want to quit Hollywood.
00:00:09 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk, I'm Kersti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller
00:00:14 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:18 Okay, so the toxic relationship rumors between Dax Shepard and his wife Kristen Bell has recirculated again.
00:00:27 It all started when Kristen was on a podcast with her castmates from Nobody Wants This a couple of weeks ago.
00:00:34 And she said that her husband is flirting with other people in front of her.
00:00:39 And that makes her feel like he's flirting with her.
00:00:43 And people were like, that doesn't sound like a good relationship.
00:00:47 And the media picked it up.
00:00:49 The internet started talking about it.
00:00:51 And now Dax Shepard is coming out on his own podcast, The Armchair Expert, trying to explain his way out of this, saying that it's all taken out of context.
00:01:01 And the way people reacted to this made him want to quit.
00:01:05 Making me think like, oh, is this now my role?
00:01:09 I know.
00:01:10 Going forward, it's just to be like every four months there's another thing about me being a terrible man.
00:01:15 And that seems, that makes me want to go away.
00:01:18 So let's look at what she actually said and what he's saying now and why people believe that this relationship is toxic.
00:01:27 Okay, so I just have to say first that it's not a new thing that people have opinions about Dick Shepard and Kristen Bell's marriage.
00:01:36 And the reason for that is because the two of them have invited people in to their marriage
00:01:42 and talked publicly so many times about how they fight and why they fight and how they solve their problems.
00:01:49 And now and again, it will backfire on them.
00:01:52 But this time was a bit different. 0.92
00:01:54 So it all started on October 26 when Kristen Bell was on Dax Shepard Armchair Experts podcast
00:02:03 with the rest of the cast from her TV show Nobody Wants This.
00:02:08 They were talking about relationships which is basically what this show is about
00:02:12 and then out of nowhere really Kristen started talking about how she feels that her husband is flirting with her
00:02:20 when he's complimenting, for example, a waitress at a dinner party.
00:02:26 That's how I know you're flirting with me a lot.
00:02:28 Like if we go to a dinner or something,
00:02:30 like there's a couple things Dax does
00:02:33 where he doesn't have to look up and wink at me,
00:02:35 but I know that he's just being the best boy.
00:02:38 We'll be at dinner and like he'll say to the waiter or waitress,
00:02:42 he'll go, wow, you have incredible eyelashes, gorgeous eyes.
00:02:45 Great, great job. 1.00
00:02:47 And then that's flirting with her.
00:02:50 But that's flirting with me because he just made someone else feel good.
00:02:55 Yeah, when people heard this, they were like,
00:02:57 it's not flirting with you when he's flirting with other women in front of you, Kristen.
00:03:02 And when you look at Aiden Brody's face when she's telling this story,
00:03:06 he's like, I don't get this.
00:03:08 This is really weird.
00:03:09 And then Kristen starts excusing herself a little bit, saying, you know,
00:03:13 I know that he won't have any more interactions with this girl for the rest of his life.
00:03:18 He's going to have zero interaction with this girl for the rest of his life.
00:03:21 The chances of him ever having another conversation with her are so microscopic.
00:03:26 Yeah, as you can see, Dax was just sitting there saying nothing.
00:03:30 He did not deny this at all.
00:03:31 It was his own podcast.
00:03:34 And if he didn't agree with her or if he felt differently about those kind of situations,
00:03:39 he could have said something right there.
00:03:42 He just laughed it off.
00:03:44 People watching this interview, I think, reacted very similar to Adam Brody.
00:03:49 Like, what on earth is going on here?
00:03:51 And the comment section went crazy on this video.
00:03:55 People were like, Kristen, run away.
00:03:58 This is such a toxic relationship.
00:04:00 He's so controlling.
00:04:02 Saying really horrible things about Dax.
00:04:04 Now, this video has 377,000 views and only 375 comments,
00:04:12 which is really suspicious and I read a comment saying hey why are you deleting all the comments
00:04:18 here so it's pretty obvious that that's what they've been doing. Then again later in this
00:04:23 episode Kristen talks about how Dax would for example compliment her friend's eyebrows which
00:04:30 I mean I wouldn't react to that if my partner said that hey you have really nice eyebrows
00:04:36 But I would not see that as a compliment to me, that my partner would compliment someone else.
00:04:43 And the fact that she used the word flirting when she talked about this waitress, that's what people really reacted to initially.
00:04:51 And then after this discussion comes back again, Timothy Simmons jumps into the conversation and says this.
00:04:57 I'm with the guy that's pouring compliments on people, making people feel good.
00:05:02 I do have bad news about that waitress.
00:05:04 oh no if we could pull up the pictures from the Halloween party
00:05:09 yeah he had some bad news about that waitress who was probably at the Halloween party
00:05:19 and then when he said that Dax reacted by just laughing it off in kind of a creepy way
00:05:25 and for obvious reasons this conversation didn't only take off
00:05:34 on social media it also made headlines in mainstream media and according to Dax Shepard
00:05:41 this has really taken a toll on him so yesterday he came out in his own podcast again trying to
00:05:47 make it sound like everyone misunderstood what Kristen really wanted to say my behavior versus
00:05:54 this weird narrative that is surrounding me as like in a controlling abusive now flirting with
00:06:01 people in public, which I don't do. Yes. So basically, it was saying here that I don't
00:06:06 flirt with other people in public, which his wife had just said that he does. And he didn't say
00:06:12 anything against that. And now he's saying, I don't flirt with other people in public. I don't
00:06:18 know if it matters if you flirt with people in public or in private, which I think kind of is
00:06:24 worse. And one of the reasons, of course, people had negative opinions about him recording this
00:06:30 was because when you're flirting with other women in front of your wife most women find that very
00:06:38 disrespectful then his podcast host monica padman is trying to support him here like the internet
00:06:46 wants a narrative they're gonna find it like pretty big normal publications too running this
00:06:54 but there's still the internet i mean that's like at this point everything is for clicks
00:07:00 But I mean, we all saw the video.
00:07:02 We all saw what she said.
00:07:03 We all could hear what she said.
00:07:04 And it definitely hasn't been taken out of context.
00:07:07 Then Dax wants some sympathy here.
00:07:10 And he's saying that he's been trying his entire life to be the opposite of what people believe that he is.
00:07:17 Growing up around certain men who behaved a certain way.
00:07:21 Yeah.
00:07:21 And then literally dedicating my whole life to being the opposite of all that.
00:07:25 I don't ever yell at my children.
00:07:27 I don't swear at them.
00:07:28 I don't yell at my wife.
00:07:30 Yeah, now he's saying that he doesn't yell at his wife,
00:07:33 which we have a lot of examples of that he actually does.
00:07:36 Kristen's been talking about that very publicly many, many times.
00:07:40 That he shouts at her, that he screams at her,
00:07:43 that they're fighting so much that they don't see each other for three days.
00:07:48 We know so much about their personal life.
00:07:52 So for him to say that he never yells at his wife, that's not actually true.
00:07:56 Yeah, and then he's twisting things around and making this about his wife that people are insulting her by reacting the way that they are.
00:08:04 And I find it deeply insulting to my wife, additionally, you know. 0.99
00:08:08 Of course, it's like she can't make up any decisions. 1.00
00:08:10 She's sitting in a house with her two daughters and modeling some abusive relationship. 1.00
00:08:15 It's very offensive to her.
00:08:18 And then he says it again that if you think that I give compliments to a hot young waitress, you better think again.
00:08:25 and then he's saying that what he usually does is that he finds a dude that he thinks hasn't had a
00:08:30 compliment in a while and then he tells him that he has nice shoes. So a compliment is very different
00:08:36 from flirting with someone and the way that his wife was describing it was flirting which is very
00:08:43 different from telling a man that he has nice shoes. I do have to say though that if his intention
00:08:48 is to make someone else feel good, to give someone else a compliment, I think that is a really
00:08:54 great traits but as i said there is a difference between giving someone a compliment and flirting
00:09:01 with them and so those compliments is flirting with kristen but it got to be when i went through
00:09:09 the grinder that i flirt with people in front of kristen yeah yes and now he's trying to make it
00:09:16 look like it went through some grinder that she didn't actually say that he was flirting with 0.98
00:09:21 other people. But that's exactly what she said. So don't blame it on the internet. Yeah, I think
00:09:26 this makes things so much worse for him. And then he followed up by saying this. And then I'm
00:09:33 defensive. And I'm like, I will offer publicly $10 million to any server you can find that I have
00:09:43 given my number to or hit on. Yeah, I think he's totally missing the point here. And I think he
00:09:49 misses it on purpose. People aren't reacting specifically to the fact that he is flirting
00:09:55 with a waitress. They're reacting to the fact that he's doing it in front of his wife and the
00:10:00 fact that his wife believes that when he's doing that, he's actually flirting with her. And that
00:10:06 sounds really effed up. Then he goes on in this podcast to talk about how this keeps happening to
00:10:12 them, how this happened just a year ago, how it happened just four months ago. And I remember
00:10:18 this Instagram post that happened about a year ago when Kristen posted this on their 12th
00:10:26 anniversary. It says here that happy 12th wedding anniversary to the man who once said to me,
00:10:32 I would never unalive you. A lot of men have unalived their wives at a certain point,
00:10:38 even though I'm heavily incentivized to unalive you. I never would. And again,
00:10:45 the internet reacted and so did mainstream media and it ended up with kristen bell shutting off her 0.93
00:10:51 comment section on her instagram and also canceling some publicity that was already planned
00:10:57 for her tv show and because this conversation came up someone found an old interview of kristen
00:11:05 and dax which definitely did not look good i was very offended and then i hit her several times
00:11:14 And then I got beat up and I guess what?
00:11:16 I never opened my mouth again.
00:11:17 Yeah, I mean, no comment there.
00:11:19 Even though if that doesn't happen in their relationship,
00:11:22 that's not something that you should joke about. 1.00
00:11:25 These things happen to so many women 1.00
00:11:28 and Kristen should really know better than to joke about it. 1.00
00:11:31 Yes, sometimes I am just like baffled by celebrities
00:11:34 who post things like this,
00:11:36 who have so many people to help them.
00:11:38 They have so many assistants, managers, agents, whatever.
00:11:41 I don't know how many people are involved in their social media,
00:11:43 But if they're smart about it, they should always run things through their PR machine.
00:11:48 And she obviously did not do that with that Instagram post.
00:11:52 Anyway, as I said, the two of them have a history of discussing their relationship in public.
00:11:57 And they've been very public about their fights.
00:12:01 So Kristen was on Harry Connick Jr.'s show in 2017.
00:12:08 And she said this about her relationship with Dax.
00:12:12 She said, when we first met, we fell madly in love and I love the dramatic exit.
00:12:18 There's nothing I crave more.
00:12:20 The first year you're working out your kinks.
00:12:22 I loved it. 0.98
00:12:23 We got in a fight because we would fight a lot and I'll be like, yell something, then
00:12:29 slam the bedroom door.
00:12:30 Then I'd slam the front door.
00:12:32 Then I'd get in my car and then I'd skid out the driveway and I would sit around the
00:12:37 corner in my car and it felt so good.
00:12:40 and I realized how incredibly toxic it was only after he pointed it out.
00:12:45 Okay, so we have that. 0.90
00:12:48 Then Kristen was on Jimmy Kimmel in 2018
00:12:52 where she talked about a motorcycle trip that she and Dax did together.
00:12:56 This was also early in their relationship.
00:12:59 We were fighting so bad we both lost our voice
00:13:02 because we were screaming at each other on the motorcycle
00:13:04 and I refused to hold on to him so I held on to the back of the motorcycle.
00:13:09 Yeah, so they fought so much that they lost their voice screaming at each other.
00:13:14 Yeah, and keep in mind that this happened early in their relationship.
00:13:16 And also funny that Dax mentioned in his podcast yesterday that he never yells or screams at his wife.
00:13:24 Obviously, that's not true.
00:13:25 Then Kristen was at the podcast The Off Camera Show in 2021.
00:13:31 And then she explained why she fell for Dax.
00:13:35 Yeah, Dax. I think part of his bad boy thing was also what stimulated me and what drew me to him, if I'm being honest, because there is something weird about women and things they shouldn't go for. And he was always this fine line of having this bad boy past but being reformed. And he always, he always treated me really, really well. 1.00
00:13:56 I agree a lot of women are attracted to the bad boys mainly because they believe that they can
00:14:02 change the bad boys and I think a lot of women experience that they've tried that one time in
00:14:08 their life and they weren't able to change that man and hopefully they'll find a nice guy after
00:14:15 that but it seems like Kristen really wanted to change this bad guy into a good guy and keep in
00:14:21 mind that Dax had issues with sobriety and he got clean in 2004 and he also admitted that he had a
00:14:27 relapse back in 2020 which involved prescription medications after he had a motorcycle accident
00:14:35 but then he got clean again and he was honest about that so I applaud that. But just to give
00:14:41 a little context of what kind of person he was before he met Kristen. In this interview she also
00:14:47 talks about how Dax was casually dating other women when they first met and she didn't want
00:14:53 to date someone who was casually dating other people so she was like I don't want that I wanted
00:14:59 to be just the two of us and then Dax said not interested in that so he broke up with her. He
00:15:05 sat me down and said I don't think we are in the same place I really really enjoy you and at that
00:15:11 point I was definitely in love with him. And she actually applauded him for being honest about it.
00:15:16 In a way, he was extremely responsible with my heart, even though he broke it.
00:15:21 And then she said that four days later, after he broke up with her, he changed his mind.
00:15:25 So then he was a changed man and didn't want to date other people casually while they were together.
00:15:31 And he was ready to commit.
00:15:33 He texts me and is like, just joking, I can't do this.
00:15:37 I would really like to be with you again.
00:15:40 Then we have Dax on the same podcast in 2019.
00:15:45 so this was two years earlier and he was also asked about his relationship with Kristen and
00:15:54 then he starts off saying this. I have this very weird mix of not thinking I'm good looking,
00:16:00 general low self-esteem, chip on my shoulder that I'm dumb because I was dyslexic, all these things
00:16:05 yet unbridled arrogance in relationships. I was going do I want to be with a Christian who has
00:16:14 eight people living in her house for free, who has to get out of a car when there's a dog that 0.98
00:16:18 doesn't have a leash and ruin her whole day to rescue this dog. Do I want to be? That's great,
00:16:22 she's good, but that's not what I want to do. I'm not that good. Yeah, he said she was so kind that
00:16:28 he wasn't sure that he wanted to be with someone who was so considerate and kind and generous.
00:16:34 Then he goes on in this podcast to talk about how she was so successful and how she saw
00:16:39 that her generosity and her kindness really paid off and because she was more successful than a lot
00:16:47 of people and then he was like okay I like this I want to be more like that so I can be more
00:16:55 successful and I wanted that and so I chose to move more in her direction you know she didn't
00:17:03 ask me to I I wanted what she had and I replicated it then he talks about how she was very on this
00:17:09 end and he was very on this end and then they kind of met in the middle and he said that she
00:17:13 learned from him to be more open about her problems. I'm guessing because of his sobriety
00:17:18 he went through all the 12 steps and all of that and he learned and he learned how to talk about
00:17:24 his problems and he's saying that if it wasn't for him Kristen would never have been open about
00:17:30 her depression. Without me she's never on your show admitting she has depression. Yeah now I'm
00:17:36 starting to wonder why she was depressed to begin with but anyways that's not for me to speculate in
00:17:41 but when you hear about how they met and all the fighting that's been going on in this marriage
00:17:46 I'm like hmm in 2020 they were also interviewed by Katie Couric and that was during lockdown and
00:17:54 they talked about how they had found each other revolting and Dax joked about all her character
00:18:01 defects and then in November of 2020 Kristen filmed their domestic disagreements and how they
00:18:09 were fighting over simple things as missing toiletries, towels, remote controls and how Dax
00:18:17 was buying a safe for his belongings. Yeah the idea of filming your arguments with your husband
00:18:23 from your own bed and then post it on Instagram to me is just like I don't get it but I guess
00:18:29 they're building this brand on being relatable and maybe it has worked out for them. But when
00:18:36 you look at all of this together, I don't think it makes them relatable. I think most people are
00:18:41 thinking that this is not healthy. Then she was on Ellen DeGeneres' show in 2021 when Chelsea
00:18:48 Handler was hosting the show and she said to her that during the pandemic there was so much
00:18:54 friction in their relationship that they decided to see their therapist separately and not together
00:19:00 anymore. Anyways, I think the most revealing interview is the one that she gave to Justin Long
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00:20:47 into it. So this was in January of 2020 and the podcast is not on YouTube so I don't have any
00:20:55 video but Entertainment Tonight did a story about it and quoting everything that Kristen said on
00:21:03 this podcast with Justin Long. She described it like this. We had this pretty incredible fight
00:21:09 recently. Incredible. I mean like top of the lungs screaming. It was about things around the house
00:21:16 that I felt I needed help with and we have a relationship where you're supposed to be able to
00:21:21 say I need your help with this. I left at 10 a.m. I wasn't going to be back until 2 30. That's a nice
00:21:29 chunk of your Saturday that you have off right I left a note and I was like hey dad would you
00:21:36 mind taking the two towels in the dryer and folding them and then like one other thing and
00:21:41 then I thought that's 10 minutes of work I can say that at that point the house was getting to
00:21:47 be a lot for me just keeping up with all the mom stuff since this was 2020 I'm guessing that it was
00:21:54 during covid so they didn't have people at home helping them with domestic stuff like that i'm
00:22:00 guessing that they have housekeepers and stuff but anyways and it continues here to say that 0.91
00:22:06 though everything was fine when kristen got home later that day things took a turn the next nights
00:22:11 and then she's quoted we're laying in bed and he turns over and like a puppy can sense it when
00:22:17 you're having when you're about to get angry i can sense it in him two seconds before it happens
00:22:23 and he goes when you leave me notes yeah I feel really controlled and he launched into how he
00:22:31 felt about it and I said to myself immediately don't react don't react don't react and I said
00:22:38 okay I totally hear you I will never it will never happen again if I need something to be
00:22:43 done around the house what's a way that I could do it that you'd be okay with a better way I could
00:22:50 do it. And then she said that everything escalated from there to the point where both Belle and
00:22:55 Shepard blacked out and got into a fight. And then she's quoted again saying, I don't actually
00:23:02 remember what happened, but what transpired was a lot of volume, a lot of harsh words being thrown
00:23:08 around. And it was angry, angry fights about how nobody does anything for anybody else. I grabbed
00:23:15 my pillow and I stomp down the hall and I sit and I sleep in the front room and I'm crying right
00:23:21 and then it says here that the pair didn't talk for three days aside from administrative stuff
00:23:27 related to their two daughters because the fight went much deeper than the note itself I wonder how
00:23:34 the two daughters felt about this by the way but anyways and she continues I was saying I need help
00:23:40 packing the lunches i need you to notice when things need to be done and he's like i can't
00:23:45 notice what you notice and then they're saying yeah the fight eventually resolved itself after
00:23:50 bell took their daughters to play with rescue dogs and reached out to shepherd to ask if she
00:23:55 could bring one home much to bell's surprise shepherd who's allergic to pups quickly agreed
00:24:01 to her request how can you be allergic to pups either you are allergic to dogs i don't know can
00:24:07 you be just allergic to a pup? I never heard that before. Maybe I'm wrong, but that sounds really
00:24:12 weird to me. Anyways, she continued to say, I didn't get an apology, but I got a dog. This is
00:24:19 so much better than an apology. We never talk about that fight ever, but I will say this.
00:24:25 Every single thing that I've needed done or I thought I'd want help with this since that fight,
00:24:32 he has been ahead of. I couldn't complain about him if I tried right now. Yeah so just give her
00:24:39 a dog and then never talk about the argument again. I don't know if that is a good way to
00:24:45 solve a problem. I would not think so but but Kristen obviously does here and then they say 1.00
00:24:53 here as for why she and Shepard decided to be open about their relationship ups and downs
00:24:58 Belle said that it was something they agreed on from the start.
00:25:01 She says here that we decided we were never not going to be asked about our relationship.
00:25:06 So if we were going to talk about it, let's make sure we show the good, the bad and the ugly and how we handle it.
00:25:15 Let's not make it saturating.
00:25:18 And we really try hard to not make it saturating.
00:25:21 And we talk about the fact that we do fight.
00:25:24 We do go to therapy.
00:25:25 we dislike each other a lot sometimes I mean to me this just sounds like a horrible horrible
00:25:32 relationship I mean every couple have disagreements when but when you scream and shout at each other
00:25:39 like this when you have children as well that's not a good thing and I don't know what good it
00:25:44 does for other people to hear this to hear about what's going on in their marriage if anyone feels
00:25:50 like oh Kristen and Dax they're arguing and screaming like this so that's a normal thing to
00:25:56 do and we can still have a great marriage although we're fighting a lot and screaming at each other
00:26:03 and by the way there are so many more articles and videos where this couple is talking about
00:26:10 how much they fight and their relationship and inviting everyone in to have opinions about it
00:26:17 So I think that when people actually do react to things that they're saying and saying that
00:26:21 this is not healthy, that's a good thing.
00:26:24 And maybe they should just welcome that and say, OK, maybe this isn't normal.
00:26:29 Maybe we should look at this situation and think that, hey, this isn't really normal. 0.50
00:26:33 It's not normal that a wife feel that her husband is flirting with her when he's flirting 0.71
00:26:39 with someone else in front of her.
00:26:41 But again, people in Hollywood live on a different planet.
00:26:45 And I think the way that they make their marriage into kind of entertainment for other people,
00:26:51 because that's what they're doing when they're talking about it so openly.
00:26:55 They're making it part of their brand and they're making it part of entertainment.
00:27:00 And I just find that really unhealthy.
00:27:02 And I think when you do that, you also have to prepare yourself that people will react to it.
00:27:08 I can understand why Dax Shepard just said that this makes him want to leave,
00:27:13 that he doesn't want to be in the public eye anymore because he can't handle the backlash.
00:27:19 He can't handle the negativity that follows when his wife is sharing things about the relationship
00:27:25 because let's be honest it's mostly what she says that backfires on him. But I think the way he
00:27:31 handled this was not great. He tried to explain himself and tried to blame everyone watching it
00:27:37 for misunderstanding it and taking it out of context when we all actually saw and heard
00:27:44 what was said by him and his wife. So yeah, let me know what you think about this. Do you think
00:27:51 they have a toxic relationship? Do you think it's healthy that they're actually sharing everything
00:27:58 from their marriage? Is that good for marriage? One thing is to talk to your therapist about
00:28:02 things or your friends or family members but to actually go out publicly and share everything I
00:28:09 would never do that that's my opinion anyways that's it for me today you guys thank you so
00:28:14 much for watching and of course thank you to my executive producer Oscar he's been really busy
00:28:20 in the background as you can see to make sure that everything goes according to plan on this
00:28:24 podcast and of course his other job is to remind everyone to subscribe to my channel right Oscar
00:28:32 and hit the notification bell as well
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00:28:40 And we'll see you soon.
00:28:42 I think it's not time, Oscar.
00:28:43 Bye.