Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - November 10, 2026


The shocking TRUTH about Katy Perry and Russel Brand !!

Major Backlash For Taylor Swift

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00:00:00.000 Why did she stay silent for all this time if she knew about his behavior?
00:00:09.020 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Jashti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice
00:00:14.060 of reason in a town built on delusion. Okay, as you might know already, Russell Brand has been
00:00:20.080 sentenced to 10 and a half years in prison. Let's look at the treatment that he can expect from
00:00:26.180 other inmates and also how he's probably going to deal with that. Another thing that I find really
00:00:31.380 interesting right now is the timing of Katy Perry's tell all book and she's been planning a
00:00:37.520 documentary. Why did she stay silent for all this time if she knew about his behavior? And let's
00:00:43.740 also look at her own behavior because Katy Perry has also been accused by several people of very
00:00:50.120 inappropriate behavior. So was Katie just manipulated by her ex-husband or was she just 0.96
00:00:56.000 ignorant? As you probably know already he was accused of seven offenses against six different 0.93
00:01:02.520 women and there are more to come. I think there are about 10 more accusations right now and some
00:01:09.960 of them are here in the U.S. as well. So he could still actually get more time behind bars. With all
00:01:16.560 of this coming to light now I think it's important to look at how this could happen. For a person like
00:01:22.280 Russell Brown to get away with his behavior for such a long time there must have been a lot of
00:01:26.760 enablers surrounding him and a reporter from TV4 in the UK just opened up about her experience with
00:01:33.180 him when she was interviewing him and he allegedly said to her I don't want to continue this interview
00:01:39.640 unless you give me a massage. She looked over to the other people in the room that were working
00:01:45.200 with Russell and their reaction was like this. So it's pretty clear that a person like Russell
00:01:52.640 was surrounded by enablers. But anyways, Russell was taken away today just after he got his
00:01:58.040 sentenced. He was taken away in a van. And I just wanted to share this other clip that I found
00:02:03.260 online this morning with Jeremy Vine, who is an author, and Mark William Thomas, who's a reporter
00:02:08.100 and an ex-detective and investigator. And the two of them were talking about what Russell Brand can
00:02:13.840 expect from jail? There will be people in prison who want to take him out. And those people will
00:02:19.860 negotiate it with guards to try and find the opportunity for him to be alone so that he can
00:02:24.960 be attacked. And so I would suspect within the next couple of years, he will be assaulted to
00:02:30.060 some degree. And the final point is that this is a man who's got an addiction habit and drugs in
00:02:35.780 jail are rife on a huge scale. So the question would be is, is he able to resist drugs when he's
00:02:43.680 jail. And I don't think I'm being unfair to him. This is a man who's got serious addictions. The
00:02:47.860 chances of him falling back into using drugs, I think, are very, very high. Yeah, it's going to
00:02:53.960 be a big change, for sure, for Russell, who lived a very privileged life and famously said to friends,
00:03:01.800 and I think he even said it in interviews, that early in his life, he decided that his life
00:03:06.580 mission was to sleep with over 5,000 women. Now he's married and has three children and his wife,
00:03:12.920 as you probably know, came to court every single day with him and has been supporting him throughout
00:03:19.240 all of this. But I wanted to look a bit more at Katy Perry today because when I saw that she was 0.67
00:03:24.340 planning a documentary and a tell-all book, I got a little suspicious. I actually interviewed Katy
00:03:31.100 Perry and I have to say her energy in that interview was so off. It was such a weird
00:03:38.160 conversation. I felt she was so performative and at the same time she came off as almost like a
00:03:44.420 robot. Yeah, it was such a weird vibe. So let's quickly look at her relationship with Russell
00:03:49.680 Brand. So the two of them first met in 2009 when he was filming Get Him to the Greek, a comedy,
00:03:56.160 and she had a little cameo in the film. And then they reconnected three months later at MTV Video
00:04:01.820 music award, where Perry reportedly caught his attention by throwing a bottle at his head.
00:04:09.120 And I guess he was very charmed by that or something. And then they're saying here in
00:04:13.420 The Sun that a whirlwind romance followed with Brand proposing at midnight on New Year's Eve
00:04:20.200 during a trip to India. And then the couple got married in India in a very lavish wedding there
00:04:27.340 in October in 2010. And then basically a little over a year later, Katy Perry received a text
00:04:34.820 message from her then husband on New Year's Eve, where he said that he wanted a divorce.
00:04:41.620 She said she was devastated at the time and she was just about to perform a big concert.
00:04:47.280 And she hinted in a 2013 interview with Vogue that there was more to their marriage than she
00:04:54.520 had initially realized. She said she had once blamed herself for the split before discovering
00:05:00.880 what she called the real truth. So that was in 2013. We don't know exactly what Katy Perry
00:05:08.760 discovered at the time, but she added in the interview also that she would keep the details
00:05:14.420 of that locked in my safe for a rainy day. She also spoke about how she felt controlled and
00:05:21.940 undermined during their relationship. And she also said that Russell Brand struggled with her success
00:05:27.440 and her independence, and that he didn't like that she was so bossy when she was on tour. She said
00:05:33.320 that in the beginning, he told her that he wanted an equal partner, but then he really couldn't deal
00:05:39.060 with that when it came down to it. She also said that the fact that he wanted children and she
00:05:44.840 didn't at the time, that had also become another source of tension between the two of them. And
00:05:50.960 Just when Russell and Katie had met, Russell was involved with a Channel 4 employee and he's now
00:05:59.880 convicted of SA against this reporter. And the Sun newspaper is now claiming that Katy Perry met
00:06:06.320 with Russell Brown shortly after that incident. It says here in the Sun that in pre-trial
00:06:11.740 submissions, Brown's own lawyer raised the possibility that Perry was among those in the room
00:06:17.820 citing the complainant's accounts. So we don't actually know if Katy Perry was present when
00:06:25.860 that happened, if she was in that room. And also interesting, the Crown Prosecution Service
00:06:32.300 confirmed to the Telegraph that Perry was never asked for a witness statement. Yeah, so we don't
00:06:38.280 know why she wasn't asked to be a witness in that particular case. We have no idea what she knew at
00:06:44.220 the time. So things that Russell has been convicted of as of now happened before their marriage and
00:06:50.780 also incidents happened after their marriage. Two of them being in LA by two different women. One
00:06:57.600 was in 2012 and another one was in 2013. And here's what I find a bit troubling. As you know,
00:07:03.020 Russell was convicted on November 5th and then he was sentenced today. And just three days after
00:07:09.020 his conviction, Katy Perry comes out and says that she is planning a potential book and a
00:07:16.220 documentary. And she's already been in talks, I think, with Netflix about the documentary series.
00:07:21.500 So here's my question about that. Why did she wait until the trial was over? Was it because
00:07:25.840 she wanted to avoid interfering with any legal procedures? Or was this because she wanted the
00:07:31.500 public to paint her in a new light? I think it's worth asking the question why you want to monetize
00:07:37.680 on a situation like this now and why if you knew about this type of behavior did nothing about it.
00:07:44.060 She said in interviews that she realized the real truth about their marriage. So did she know about
00:07:50.520 his behavior and did nothing about it? Was it because she was afraid of him? Was it because
00:07:55.440 she was afraid for her own career? We obviously don't know these things but I think it's worth
00:08:00.600 asking these kind of questions. I also find the detail interesting that he was the one who asked
00:08:06.000 for a divorce and he did it on a text message. After that happened she also told Vogue that she
00:08:12.600 initially felt responsible for their marriage falling apart. But then she stopped blaming
00:08:18.000 herself as soon as she learned the real truth. And of course we have no idea when she learned
00:08:24.560 the real truth. There is also a video circulating right now with Katy Perry and Russell Brown
00:08:30.280 on the red carpet together this was an oscar event the vanity fair party and the two of them
00:08:36.200 were interviewed together and during that interview russell was joking around and katie
00:08:42.900 was playing along until he showed this little sign where it says obey on it it is a brand called
00:08:50.100 obey and now people of course are speculating if that was for katie was he showing that sign to
00:08:55.640 her to obey him and she acted really weird in that interview and then uh pipsqueaks come over
00:09:02.020 and then uh sneezy went no that was probably my favorite you just put him right in it now
00:09:06.720 i did watch the oscars oh this is morning television this is morning in england so
00:09:13.800 listen who are you happy to see you win i mean
00:09:16.620 i'm happy that for everyone really just everyone people that won people that were nominated people
00:09:28.500 that were just there unsung heroes the people that fill the seats so i'm not going to say that
00:09:35.140 she wasn't manipulated and that she wasn't a victim of his controlling behavior but i think
00:09:43.000 is also worth looking at where Katy Perry stands and the people that have come forward and accused
00:09:48.700 Katy Perry of inappropriate behavior too. But before we get into all of that a big thank you
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00:11:18.820 into it. First, a big thank you to Matteo, who's helped me with so much of this research. Thank
00:11:23.260 you again, Matteo. You're the best. He's also suggesting that Katy Perry needs a repair of her
00:11:28.960 reputation her latest album 143 didn't really go as planned and as you know she received a lot of
00:11:35.620 backlash after her trip to space and she said from that experience that she felt like a human
00:11:42.900 pinata because people were hating so much on her and I remember even Wendy's remember that tweet
00:11:49.120 that Wendy's came out with with that when that happened and said can we send her back back into 1.00
00:11:55.480 space. So that was a big blow for Katie. And now she's dating the ex-prime minister of Canada and
00:12:02.320 people are like, do we really believe in that relationship? I don't know if that's a sham or
00:12:07.860 not. I'm not going to speculate in that. But I do find a lot of the things that she does to be a bit
00:12:13.300 performative. So let's look a little bit at Katie's behavior throughout the years here. And yes, we
00:12:18.360 have several different people who come forward against Katie. One of them being Josh Kloss.
00:12:24.480 At the time when this happened with Josh Kloss, Katy Perry was with Russell Brand.
00:12:31.520 And he was an actor or a dancer in her music video Teenage Dream.
00:12:36.200 And he recalls being at a party with her about 14 years ago,
00:12:39.720 where she at one point pulled down his pants and his underwear in front of a big crowd.
00:12:46.380 So he was standing in front of all these people exposing himself.
00:12:50.060 At the time, he didn't do anything about it.
00:12:52.200 But then he later came out and said that this obviously was really traumatizing for him.
00:12:56.880 And when she did this, Katy Perry kept laughing.
00:13:00.040 So the music video for Teenage Dream was recorded in 2010 in Santa Barbara.
00:13:07.060 And he then said that they had bonded on set.
00:13:10.360 And that two years later, this happened at a birthday party.
00:13:14.500 Other people close to Perry at this birthday party said that this never happened.
00:13:19.520 and they said that Josh Kloss was just a crazy fanboy
00:13:23.460 and he admitted that he was smitten by her
00:13:26.920 when they recorded this music video.
00:13:29.920 And here he was interviewed by Page Six
00:13:32.100 and he talked about why he came forward with his allegations when he did
00:13:35.840 and he said that he had reached a breaking point
00:13:38.820 after years of fans telling him how fortunate,
00:13:42.420 unlucky he was to have been given such a notable platform
00:13:45.600 by a major celebrity.
00:13:47.080 And he was quoted saying,
00:13:48.480 she who I should be grateful for devalued and degraded me to the highest level in front of
00:13:54.580 her closest peers. Why would I be grateful for that? Klaus confessed that part of him thought
00:13:59.500 Perry might have responded either privately or publicly by saying something along the lines of
00:14:04.280 the past is the past. I made some mistake and apologize. I'm better now. But she didn't. Then
00:14:11.260 of course, we have the Justin Bieber incident that happened in 2012 when Justin Bieber was 18
00:14:16.960 and Katy Perry was 27 when they were backstage together.
00:14:23.320 She did this on camera as well. 0.94
00:14:25.560 Katy Perry grabbed his butt and looked into the camera 1.00
00:14:28.620 and said, sorry, Selena, to his then-girlfriend, Selena Gomez. 0.96
00:14:33.600 Yeah, I don't think Justin Bieber appreciated that.
00:14:35.980 And also, when you look at the photo with her, Russell, and Justin,
00:14:42.000 Justin Bieber doesn't look like he wants to be sandwiched
00:14:44.720 between Russell and Katy.
00:14:46.960 Then of course we have the controversy with Katy Perry and Dr. Luke. She decided to reunite with
00:14:54.700 Dr. Luke and let him record her album, her 2024 album called 143, despite the essay allegations
00:15:04.540 against him from pop singer Kesha. And the backlash against Katy became even worse because a lot of
00:15:12.300 tracks were marketed as female empowerment and people were like, you're such a hypocrite. She 0.99
00:15:18.360 knew very well about the decade-long fight between Dr. Luke and Kesha and how in June of 2023, just
00:15:27.340 a year before she did the collaboration with him, that that feud ended with an out-of-court
00:15:32.080 settlement. Dr. Luke, of course, denied all of the allegations and we don't know what they agreed on
00:15:37.220 in that settlement. Another thing that happened while Katie was married to Russell was an incident
00:15:42.720 with Ruby Rose. This happened in 2010. The Guardian reported on this that Ruby Rose claims that Katy
00:15:50.940 Perry SA'd her at a Melbourne nightclub in 2010. Katie came out and denied all the allegations and
00:15:58.200 called them dangerous, reckless lies. She had a representative come out with a statement about
00:16:03.980 this also, by the way, where they said the allegations being circulated on social media
00:16:09.380 by Ruby Rose about Katy Perry are not only categorically false, they are dangerous,
00:16:14.820 reckless lies. Ms. Rose has a well-documented history of making serious public allegations
00:16:19.960 on social media against various individuals, claims that have repeatedly been denied by those
00:16:26.320 named. Then, interestingly enough, after the guy from her music video, Kloss, came forward,
00:16:31.760 A Russian TV presenter called Tina Kandelaki claimed that Perry tried to kiss her at a party without her consent.
00:16:40.820 And then, of course, we all remember when she kissed one of the contestants on TV when she was a judge at American Idol. 0.95
00:16:49.660 Come here!
00:16:51.160 What, on the cheek?
00:16:55.840 You didn't even make the smush sound!
00:16:57.680 Right, right, right, right, right, right.
00:16:59.220 Oh!
00:16:59.740 do you have any any water by chance it's just i i kind of wasn't expecting that and he admitted
00:17:08.800 in interviews later that he felt really uncomfortable in the situation but he also
00:17:13.300 said that he didn't feel as aged at the time but a lot of people watching it felt like no
00:17:18.660 that was not okay she was asked about these incidents by a reporter from the guardian a
00:17:25.380 while back. And her response was this, I think we live in a world where anyone can say anything.
00:17:31.000 I don't want to say guilty until proven innocent, but there's no checks and balances. A headline
00:17:37.620 just flies, right? And there's no investigation of what it is. The Grammy nominee added that she
00:17:43.980 hadn't previously commented out of respect for the Me Too movement, explaining, I don't want to add
00:17:50.060 to the noise. I want to add to the truth, basically. Then there's another incident on American Idol.
00:17:56.300 This was in 2023, where one of the contestants, Sarah Best Lieb, revealed on the show that she
00:18:02.040 was a 25-year-old mother of three, whereas Perry responded with a sexual joke implying that Lieb 0.57
00:18:07.660 had spent too much time laying on a table. Lieb later described the comment as embarrassing and
00:18:14.300 hurtful and criticized the tendency to shame mothers. Honey, you've been laying on the table
00:18:20.380 too much. That comment landed Katie in some hot water with some viewers accusing the singer of
00:18:26.680 mom shaming. So yeah, there's that too. And Katie Perry has publicly acknowledged that she uses 1.00
00:18:32.920 humor as a defense mechanism. But I don't think in any of these incidents that she could say that
00:18:39.760 she was defending herself in any way or trying to protect herself by using humor as defense.
00:18:46.080 The fact is that Katy Perry built a career on being provocative, outrageous and unapologetic
00:18:52.860 herself and she had that public image and personality before she met Russell Brandt.
00:18:59.640 And this summer Katy was doing a concert and she was on stage in front of everyone and this happened.
00:19:05.520 oh this is a good one i just saw my ex i hope my ex isn't here he should be in jail
00:19:11.780 when did she find out that her ex-husband should be in jail that is my big question did she know
00:19:19.620 all along that he should be in jail if she knew why didn't she do anything about it i still have
00:19:26.800 so many questions here so many people must have known and so many people did nothing shouldn't
00:19:32.920 those people be held accountable to? Because if we don't do that, these types of stories will repeat
00:19:38.460 themselves again and again. Yeah, let me know what you think about all of this. Anyway, that's it for
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