Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - The gloves are OFF !! Blake and Taylor drama continues

00:00:00.000 So now we know the real reason why Blake Lively brought her two friends with her

00:00:05.160 to the World Cup final.

00:00:12.020 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Jashti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:16.500 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.

00:00:20.920 Okay, so this is actually getting juicier than what I anticipated at first,

00:00:25.380 thanks to one of you guys sending me this tip about these two girls that Blake Lively brought

00:00:31.940 with her to the World Cup Finals this weekend. As I mentioned yesterday, these sisters are the 0.99

00:00:38.240 founders of Stoney Clover Lane, who most people associate with the friendship bracelets that were

00:00:45.260 sold during Taylor Swift's Aeros tour. Now it turns out that this story is a little more complicated

00:00:51.440 than what I thought at first. You got to hear this one. Also very interesting how the media

00:00:56.980 portrayed how Blake Lively showed up at the World Cup after being snubbed from Taylor Swift's

00:01:03.400 wedding. It's no longer about Justin Baldoni and the controversies around that. It's all about the

00:01:10.320 humiliation of being dumped by Taylor. This is definitely an interesting new direction coming

00:01:17.040 from mainstream media. Also, Blake and Ryan are still trying to plan stories to convince us

00:01:22.820 that there's still a couple going strong. They miss each other so much that they have to FaceTime,

00:01:29.580 that Blake had to FaceTime Ryan during the World Cup. And if you thought the legal drama was over,

00:01:36.600 think again. There is an update in the Stephanie Jones versus Jennifer Abel case. This case is so

00:01:43.760 closely connected to the Blake Lively versus Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties and now

00:01:50.160 we are in the middle of discovery and we do have a court date. Let's also compare Blake Lively's

00:01:57.020 ask for attorney's fees to Amber Heard. Yeah this really puts things in perspective and Justin

00:02:03.940 Baldoni was spotted at the World Cup. He was watching the game between Norway and England

00:02:09.360 and a fan snapped a photo with him anyways before I get into all of this stuff I just wanted to say

00:02:14.860 again thank you so much for sending me so many amazing tips I would never be able to do this

00:02:21.340 every day if it wasn't for you guys so I just wanted to say that I really truly appreciate you

00:02:26.640 guys so much and also thanks for all the sweet words about my eye my style on this eye is getting

00:02:32.700 a little bit better it's still a bit painful but thankfully every day it gets a little bit better

00:02:38.080 Okay, so let's get into it. Let's first go through this new filing in the Stephanie Jones

00:02:43.760 versus Jennifer Abel case. As you know, Stephanie Jones used to be Justin Baldoni's publicist and

00:02:49.800 then she turned on him and took her ex-employee at the time, Jennifer Abel, who also used to work

00:02:56.660 for her, who wanted to leave her company to start her own. She took her phone and looked through

00:03:03.020 her text messages allegedly before she contacted someone who knew Blake Lively and she told her,

00:03:11.420 hey, I got all these great evidence that you can cherry pick and use against Justin Baldoni and

00:03:18.120 the wayfair parties to prove that there was a smear campaign against you. And Blake Lively said,

00:03:23.740 yes, hooray, let's get these text messages. Let's figure out a way to get them legally.

00:03:28.780 let's create this fake lawsuit pretending that we're going to subpoena stephanie jones company

00:03:35.320 or a lot of people working there but we're not going to name anyone and then we're just going

00:03:39.980 to get this one phone from stephanie jones and then we have it legally through a subpoena and

00:03:45.880 then we can just give that to the new york times and then they can write a hit piece on justin

00:03:50.880 baldoni and all these other people who were involved in this horrific smear campaign so

00:03:56.960 that's what they did and now we're about to find out who talked to who who emailed who who texted

00:04:04.240 who who called who and how these text messages ended up in blake lively's hands so the judge

00:04:11.660 has just ruled it is judge lyman who's looking over this case as well and now he has decided

00:04:18.400 that a jury trial will be held on February 8th of 2027 at 9.30 a.m. in courtroom 15C at the 500

00:04:29.780 Pearl Street Courthouse in New York. They will also have a final pre-trial conference on January

00:04:36.640 27th of 2027 at 2 p.m. And he also said deadlines for summary judgments. And this is where it gets

00:04:46.080 really interesting. As you might remember, when Justin Baldoni filed his summary judgments in

00:04:52.580 December of last year, we had to wait a little bit. We had to wait a month or so before all this

00:04:59.120 evidence was unsealed. But when that happened, we got to see everything. That is where this big

00:05:07.140 dump of text messages and emails from Blake, from Ryan, from Taylor, from Sony people, from WME,

00:05:15.380 from everyone involved here was dumped in the docket and we as the public got to see everything

00:05:23.760 and that is what's going to happen in this case as well. So the deadline for the summary judgment

00:05:30.540 motion is October 15. So three months from now we will get to learn everything that happened in this

00:05:39.780 case and we will find out how much of a role Blake Lively played in this Van Zandt lawsuit. As you

00:05:46.320 know, Van Zandt, this company, is co-owned by herself, by Blake and Ryan Reynolds. And they

00:05:53.640 filed this fake lawsuit only to get hold of that phone and they just dropped the lawsuit the day

00:05:59.140 before Blake Lively filed her CRD complaints in California. And that CRD complaint is what the

00:06:06.660 New York Times based their reporting on. We know for sure that the New York Times also worked on

00:06:12.240 this story way before the CRD complaint was filed but that's not something that they have publicly

00:06:17.860 admitted yet. Anyways we don't know if Blake Lively will be deposed again but I'm guessing

00:06:24.840 they would depose her and also they should depose Ryan Reynolds because he was the owner also of

00:06:31.180 this company who filed this sham lawsuit and as you know this Van Zand sham lawsuit was discovered

00:06:38.480 by a content creator without a crystal ball found out about this fake lawsuit so she was the one

00:06:47.240 bringing this to the surface and after we learned about that Blake's attorneys came out and defended

00:06:53.440 it and said that this is normal procedure everyone does this and all the attorneys here on the

00:06:58.900 internet, we're like, no, we don't do that. This is not normal. And now, as I said, we got to learn

00:07:04.820 everything about what happened behind the scenes here. And I can't wait for that to happen. It's

00:07:09.740 going to be amazing. So Blake Lively has a lot more coming for her. If she thought this is over, 0.60

00:07:17.080 it's not. Anyways, I had to laugh reading this article this morning from the New York Post

00:07:22.420 saying Blake Lively FaceTimes husband Ryan Reynolds during FIFA World Cup final and chats

00:07:29.080 with A-lister after Taylor Swift wedding snub. It's so funny how this is obviously planted

00:07:36.900 by Blake Lively herself. Who else would be at the finals who bought this ticket worth probably

00:07:44.480 a hundred thousand dollars who had the view of Blake Lively would call the New York Post and say

00:07:49.720 hello i just want to i have a tip here is blake lively facetimed ryan during the game and she

00:07:56.980 also spoke to sam smith why would anyone spend time leaking that to the press except if you are

00:08:02.360 blake lively or ryan reynolds who wants to convince the world that blake still talks to other

00:08:08.040 celebrities and they don't mind being seen with her someone like sam smith he's like totally up

00:08:13.820 for a chat with Blake. And of course, adding in here that she FaceTimed Ryan in the middle of

00:08:20.420 this match. Everyone was asking yesterday, where was Ryan? Why wasn't he at the World Cup finals?

00:08:25.960 It's all about football. His entire Instagram is just about soccer and Wrexham, his team. He owns

00:08:33.180 a football team. And then he doesn't join his wife going to the finals. And people reacted to that

00:08:40.020 yesterday so now they have to say well she facetimed him because they love each other so

00:08:44.960 much and they support each other so much yeah right anyways the story reads bleak lively's

00:08:50.480 girls day got a little cameo from ryan reynolds the actress was seen facetiming her soccer loving

00:08:57.960 husband from the pitch side lounge at metlife stadium while watching the 2026 fifa world cup

00:09:04.700 final on Sunday, a spy tells Page Six. There was a spy there, obviously. Our insider also says that

00:09:15.280 the actress chatted with musician Sam Smith, who was also in attendance, and then they added

00:09:22.320 very briefly. Why are they saying very briefly like this? I don't know. As Page Six previously

00:09:29.180 reported lively attended the fifa world cup final with a few of her non-famous girlfriends

00:09:35.260 the gossip girl alan posed for a selfie with her gal pals at the big game where spain ultimately

00:09:42.580 beat argentina 1-0 lively's group included stony clover lane founders kendall and libby glacier

00:09:49.980 as well as her longtime friend emma gray why would you call a brand stony clover lane there is no

00:09:57.780 ring to that name. I will never remember this name. I have to look down at my notes every time

00:10:01.900 I say Stony Clover Lane. Anyways, her outing comes shortly after Lively was noticeably absent from

00:10:09.380 her former bestie Taylor Swift's wedding at Madison Square Garden in New York earlier this

00:10:14.700 month. Some of the estimated thousand guests included Selena Gomez, Gigi Hadid, Bradley Cooper,

00:10:20.480 Tom Brady, Brad Pitt, and more. Anyways, to get to my other point here, which is that it's

00:10:26.580 interesting how the media now has changed their direction. Before it was always about Blake Lively

00:10:33.420 being here, being there, being seen there, doing these things on Instagram after Justin Baldoni

00:10:40.760 court drama or after legal feud or after settlement with Justin Baldoni. Now Justin Baldoni is gone

00:10:48.620 from the headlines. Now it's all about Taylor Swift and that angle is so much more damaging

00:10:55.720 for Blake Lively's reputation because the Justin Baldoni angle for people who don't know too much

00:11:01.700 about that legal feud is more about controversy it's more professional it's more about litigation

00:11:08.180 strategies but this this is personal and this is humiliating the only reason why Blake is relevant

00:11:17.140 right now is because she was dumped by Taylor Swift and all these articles are reminding us

00:11:23.880 that even her inner circle turned on her so her like triumphant comeback at the world cup

00:11:31.440 after being silenced for almost like three to four weeks after she filed these legal fees

00:11:38.160 these claims for like eight million dollars it's no triumph here that she's appearing at this game

00:11:45.120 where you can buy your own ticket i'm sure that blake wasn't invited by anyone and you can brag

00:11:50.640 about being there being surrounded by friends or whatever but it doesn't require you to get an

00:11:57.040 invitation from someone in contrast to taylor swift's wedding where you actually had to be

00:12:02.540 invited to be included so blake and ryan can just keep planting all these stories keep planting

00:12:09.220 stories of how much blake was hurt by taylor as you know some insiders came out and said that

00:12:14.660 after the wedding that blake was hurt and she felt that she could never be friends with taylor again

00:12:19.280 because she hurt her so much but the fact is that this feud will follow her forever and that is a

00:12:26.320 terrible terrible look for Blake. Anyways let's get into the stoner stoner stony clover lane girls

00:12:35.300 that Blake were spotted with at the world cup final game. So as I said yesterday these girls

00:12:42.300 are associated with the friendship bracelet that was everywhere during Taylor Swift's Ares tour or

00:12:49.280 All the Swifties had tons of these bracelets covering their arms.

00:12:53.040 Some of them they made themselves,

00:12:54.920 and some of them they bought in stores like Stony Clover Lane. 0.95

00:13:00.580 Things to do in Orange County, calling all Swifties. 0.81

00:13:03.140 Stony Clover Lane in Newport Beach at Lido Marina Village 0.99

00:13:05.760 is doing a pre-concert pop-up shop that you don't want to miss.

00:13:09.080 Whether you're going to the Ayers tour or not, you have to check it out.

00:13:12.140 You can make friendship bracelets, create custom Ayers merch,

00:13:14.880 take cute pictures and more.

00:13:16.520 There's so much to look at, and it was hard to decide what to get,

00:13:18.900 but I ended up picking up a couple bracelets don't miss out on visiting pop-up shop now through

00:13:23.860 August 9th. So I got this really interesting email from Ricky thank you so much for sending me this

00:13:29.480 and this really explains why Blake was hanging out with these girls. Ricky said this to me I was

00:13:35.880 wondering how Stoney Clover got away with making Taylor Swift merchandise when Taylor shuts that 0.99

00:13:41.740 kind of shit down fast. Example the enclosed pics from a Fox News article about Taylor going 0.98

00:13:48.580 into shops like etsy and sending them cease and desist notices i remember i saw this youtube video

00:13:55.900 about a girl trying to sell merch with taylor swift on etsy and then she got sued by taylor

00:14:02.760 swift she was crying she was so heartbroken so we know taylor is really hardcore when it comes

00:14:08.880 to protecting her own ip and ricky says of course that isn't anything new she's always fighting with

00:14:14.800 someone about her name. That's what had me wondering how Stoney Clover was getting away

00:14:19.180 with it. I started looking online for info, eventually finding my way to Stoney Clover's

00:14:23.900 website. Guess what I didn't find there? Not one item related to Taylor Swift. They no longer have

00:14:33.940 bracelets with words associated with Taylor's songs or her tour names. I searched for TS,

00:14:40.580 Taylor Swift, Eras, Karma, Lover, on and on. Nothing. If you look at my enclosed pic of Stony

00:14:49.180 Clover's brick and mortar store, you can plainly see they had tons of Taylor Swift merch attached

00:14:56.920 to the outside of their store. I think Taylor sent them a season desist, which would have hit

00:15:02.560 Stony Clover right where it hurts, in their bank. You can't find any of the Taylor Swift merch that's

00:15:09.200 pictured on Stony Clover's store. And actually, the store in the picture is now permanently

00:15:15.480 closed. I am betting Kendall and Libby's Stony Clover's founders have it in for Taylor. That

00:15:24.360 New Orleans location was all over Instagram as one of the cutest storefronts, but it was all

00:15:29.740 Taylor Swift themes. That would have been highly infringing on Taylor's property rights. Taylor

00:15:35.600 was in New Orleans near the end of October of 2024, and that Stony Clover location was shut

00:15:43.700 down like 10 months later. That means it was a dig, but not the way we think. Rather than a dig

00:15:51.440 because Stony Clover was a brand associated with Taylor, since I doubt Taylor wanted Stony Clover 0.99

00:15:57.800 using her name, henceforth she likely shut that shit down. It was a dig because Blake and Taylor 0.98

00:16:05.060 were besties and Taylor more than likely bitched to Blake about the thorn in her side. Those damn 1.00

00:16:12.440 sisters who were making all that money selling Taylor merch and who decked out the entire outside 1.00

00:16:17.700 of their store in Taylor-themed merch without permission. Then Blake, knowing how much Taylor

00:16:24.100 hated those sisters for making bank on her name, invited them along to that huge sport event, 0.57

00:16:29.380 making damn sure that she was photographed with the sisters. That's the dig. Yes. Those sisters 1.00

00:16:36.460 started out in their bedroom and grew their business like into like nine brick and mortar 1.00

00:16:41.220 stores nationwide. I think in part it was accomplished by writing on Taylor's coattail.

00:16:47.240 I think they made a fortune using Taylor's name. I think it was a very bad deal for Taylor.

00:16:52.500 None of the other little shops on Etsy got as big as Stoney Clover. Now Stoney Clover is down

00:16:59.000 to six doors. Very, very interesting observation there and I think she is spot on. Blake has found 0.98

00:17:07.180 two other girls who have a fallout with Taylor Swift and guess what? Thank you Kelly for sending

00:17:13.980 me this. She said to me, in case others haven't made the connection yet, the two women seen with

00:17:19.720 Blake outside the Toulouse Mexican eatery in Canada right after the Swift wedding are the same

00:17:26.980 women in the world cup photo and the weirdly obscure article about ryan and blake's escaping

00:17:33.180 to canada came out which i think was planted by ryan and blake it's comical that everyone assumed

00:17:40.760 that libby glazer and emma gray were blake's assistants i'm wondering if blake tagged them

00:17:45.540 in her instagram story because they didn't want to be called her assistants again or if blake's

00:17:50.280 trolling of taylor didn't work the first time because no one knew who these women were

00:17:55.040 very good observation there as well thank you kelly i love that you guys are so good at finding 0.80

00:18:02.540 these little nuggets everywhere and i did not make that connection whatsoever that these two women are

00:18:09.740 also the ones in the photo with blake in canada she brought them there as well and as you know

00:18:16.480 i shared a photo with ryan reynolds and his brothers in canada so they were there to visit

00:18:21.660 his family obviously and then Blake brought these two girls with her as well have we seen this

00:18:28.680 happen before when Blake and Ryan want people to be on their side yeah and one last email about

00:18:35.520 these two girls so this is from Kristen thank you for sending me this as well she said after I watched

00:18:41.180 your recent video I went to the business websites of Stoney Clover obviously I saw some negative

00:18:46.820 comments about them doing business with Blake I commented that on your video I went back and saw

00:18:52.160 that they deleted the comments it says 16 comments but there's only like three positive ones I wrote

00:18:58.040 two comments on two different posts waiting to see if they deleted mine also sweet and salty did a

00:19:03.080 video about this story and someone posted that they commented on their post and then got blocked

00:19:07.660 screenshots are available thank you so much I was also looking at their website this morning as I

00:19:14.840 pointed out yesterday all the three girls that were with Blake at the World Cup final have private

00:19:21.240 Instagram accounts and there is a reason for that because everyone who gets tagged by Blake Lively

00:19:26.640 needs to go private otherwise you'll have to hire an assistant to just sit and delete negative

00:19:32.020 comments. Anyways as I mentioned in the beginning of this episode I wanted to compare Blake Lively's

00:19:37.680 ask for legal fees to defend herself against Justin Baldoni's countersuit against her.

00:19:44.820 As you know, it was basically two filings, motions to dismiss that she filed. And she's now saying

00:19:51.780 that she had 82 lawyers helping her do that, as you know. And my friend Yuki, thank you, Yuki,

00:19:58.280 so much. Yuki is the best. She's also a journalist. And she followed the Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard

00:20:04.780 lawsuit very closely and she could tell me that amber heard in two occasions she said it herself

00:20:14.140 and her attorney mentioned it as well that she spent six million dollars on that lawsuit and as

00:20:21.820 you know that lawsuit went to trial as yuki says you know it's a high profile lawsuit which had

00:20:29.420 six weeks of actual actual trial cost six million dollars how come justin's countersuit which got

00:20:37.020 tossed pretty quickly cost eight million of course elaine which was amber heard's attorney and amber

00:20:44.220 are liars but that is another matter and she also told me this in new york marine which is also the

00:20:50.140 same insurance company that justin baldonia the wafer party used as you know there are four lawsuits

00:20:57.100 between the wafer parties and these insurance companies.

00:21:00.400 They obviously don't want to pay for any of these

00:21:02.420 as insurance companies never do.

00:21:04.940 And Yuki says here that the New York Marine

00:21:07.580 also sued Amber Heard, refusing to pay.

00:21:10.860 In that case, I thought they were totally right

00:21:13.480 because California law states you don't have to pay

00:21:16.260 if the person intentionally ruins someone else's reputation.

00:21:20.660 And the jury just said so.

00:21:22.780 As Yuki mentioned here, Johnny sued Amber in 2019

00:21:26.220 Elaine was not the first lawyer who got the job. Insurance companies assigned another lawyer for

00:21:33.180 Amber first, so she didn't start working for Amber immediately. Still, there was at least two years of

00:21:39.360 work prior to the trial. Accumulation of all this work was six million dollars. Yeah, so how can

00:21:46.520 Blake Lively's attorneys ask for eight million dollars? There wasn't even a trial. Also, I wanted

00:21:52.220 to end this episode with a sweet picture of Justin Baldoni. He was spotted by fans at the

00:21:58.500 World Cup as well, but he was watching the quarterfinal Norway versus England. I am hoping

00:22:04.880 he was rooting for Norway. I know his wife is Swedish, so obviously she had to be rooting for 0.70

00:22:10.780 Norway because we're neighbors and we always support each other. So I hope Justin Baldoni

00:22:15.480 was rowing in the audience and was rooting for Erling Haaland, which is one of my latest

00:22:20.100 obsession i don't know what it is about that guy i've been watching so many videos with him and i

00:22:24.140 saw this woman commenting on him on instagram saying like first i saw this guy i was like what

00:22:29.720 is this about he looks really weird there's nothing attractive about his appearance and then

00:22:34.860 i started getting to know him through all these instagram stories and posts and then i was like

00:22:40.340 there's something very attractive about him and the way i see it is that we need just unfiltered

00:22:46.140 people out there people that are just authentic and honest and who doesn't really care what people

00:22:51.460 think about them and I also think Holland has a good heart but anyway Justin Baldoni was there

00:22:56.980 he was asked in a video who he wanted to win the world cup and he did give the wrong answer as I

00:23:02.980 saw people on reddit were commenting on it saying like well he's not perfect maybe he changed his

00:23:08.360 mind so Justin was rooting for Argentina to win and as you know Argentina received so much

00:23:15.920 backlash for foul play for being bullies on the court and it did not end well for them as you

00:23:23.560 know i'm here in spain so of course i was rooting for spain anyways that's it for me today you guys

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - July 22, 2026

The gloves are OFF !! Blake and Taylor drama continues

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