Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 12, 2026


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00:00:00.000 It seems like we have only seen the tip of the iceberg.
00:00:04.680 What he's doing right now is giving me the chills.
00:00:12.760 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.
00:00:14.720 I'm C.H.D. Flore, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:17.860 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:22.740 Wow and wow, is Ryan Reynolds so much worse than I thought?
00:00:28.460 What he's doing right now is giving me the chills.
00:00:32.700 Also, I'm starting to hear some really disturbing stories about him.
00:00:37.500 It seems like we have only seen the tip of the iceberg.
00:00:42.160 There's something very interesting going on in Canada right now.
00:00:47.140 And all I can say is that this information will become public very soon.
00:00:53.820 And I will definitely keep you guys posted.
00:00:57.220 Also, an update in the Stephanie Jones v. Jennifer Abel case.
00:01:02.960 Judge Lyman has just ruled that both parties need to give him a new excuse
00:01:09.880 for why they want some of the documents or evidence continued to be sealed.
00:01:17.500 Yeah, Judge Lyman is ready to let the public see it all.
00:01:21.820 Let's talk about that.
00:01:23.320 And also we have an update on Perez Hilton's condition and what is going to happen to him
00:01:29.540 moving forward. I also have a few things that I wanted to address that I spoke about the other
00:01:35.500 day and some people criticized me for. So yeah, let's get into it. As I said the other day,
00:01:41.880 Ryan Reynolds started liking anti-Justin Baldoni content on Instagram and he wants to support
00:01:49.700 people who's calling Justin Baldoni a creep and who's spreading misinformation about the facts
00:01:56.640 in regards to the lawsuit because that is what these accounts are doing. There are also indications
00:02:03.460 right now that Ryan started getting more involved behind the scenes on social media. I reported on
00:02:10.580 some of that the other day as well and now it's getting even more obvious to me what Ryan is up
00:02:15.680 to. So I saw this post on Reddit the other day, and I was like, this is quite interesting. And
00:02:20.840 it's a good reminder for people to see what was really going on behind the scenes and how people
00:02:27.520 in the industry were talking about Blake Lively behind her back. Someone on Reddit created this
00:02:34.400 post saying, Ryan Reynolds, how could they spend so much time with her yet have no sense of who
00:02:41.260 she is. And then they said, Ange Gianetti, Todd Black, and Sony executives knew exactly who Blake
00:02:48.480 Lively was. Ange Gianetti and Todd Black both worked for Sony, if you don't know that. And this
00:02:54.600 post had collected a lot of texts and emails where people were talking about who Blake Lively really
00:03:02.900 is. They called her epic level stupid. They called her a terrorist several times. They said that she 1.00
00:03:08.820 could only blame herself for what happened and I was like okay I'm going to talk about this on my
00:03:14.140 channel again for the people who missed out on these parts and it's also a really good reminder
00:03:18.200 for everyone on what happened behind the scenes. I go to the post to this link and I get this message
00:03:23.660 sorry this post was removed by Reddit's filter. Why was this post removed by filter? It was a
00:03:32.760 collection of evidence of public material that's publicly available to everyone in a legal docket.
00:03:41.320 Why was that removed, Ryan? Let me know what you think. Who's behind this? Who's behind all the
00:03:48.160 other censorship happening on Reddit right now? Please keep in mind here that Blake Lively hired
00:03:54.660 Nick Shapiro, who used to work for the CIA. And we don't know if he's still working for her,
00:04:01.180 But the signs that I start seeing now makes me really worried for Justin Boldoni.
00:04:08.280 Because Ryan Reynolds has a history of stalking people that he has a grudge with,
00:04:15.540 or people who he didn't like working with, or people who called him out.
00:04:20.500 I've heard several stories lately about how he has operated behind the scenes trying to ruin people.
00:04:28.320 And I believe, as I said the other day, Ryan is obsessed with Justin and he will go after
00:04:36.320 him for as long as it takes for him to feel that he has gotten his own career back.
00:04:43.540 I think that we have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Ryan.
00:04:49.060 And that little tip has showed us a lot.
00:04:52.360 And I think it's so important right now to keep an eye on what's happening on social
00:04:56.900 media and if the person who did this post is watching this channel please send me all these
00:05:05.660 evidence that you collected all these things from the lawsuit that you put on reddit so i can read
00:05:11.560 it out loud here on my channel ryan also posted on his instagram story yesterday a picture of
00:05:19.080 himself where he thought probably he looked cool and he chose the song angel of the morning you
00:05:26.460 probably know the famous line just call me angel in the morning. Is this some kind of sick humor
00:05:32.100 from him pretending that he believes he is an angel or just doing the opposite here saying that
00:05:39.740 I'm no angel and that's why I added this music. I just feel that everything that he does there is
00:05:45.600 some sense of meaning or some purpose behind it. Anyways this gives me the chills you guys. I
00:05:53.240 received I have to say I received an email this morning that really shocked me okay so let's get
00:06:00.300 into this new filing from the judge in the Stephanie Jones versus Jennifer Abel case if you
00:06:07.340 follow this drama for a while you know there are a lot of separate lawsuits going on right now
00:06:11.900 one of them being this one without getting into details of what's who's suing who for what here
00:06:17.420 What I think is the most important thing about this case is that we are about to find out more details about what happened when Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds used their company, Van Zand, to file a sham lawsuit to get hold of Jennifer Abel, Justin Baldoni's publicist phone, and legally take it from Stephanie Jones, who was colluding with them,
00:06:45.440 who also used to work for Justin Baldoni.
00:06:48.860 She gave them that phone through this subpoena.
00:06:54.200 Blake and Ryan dropped the lawsuit the day before she filed her CRD complaint
00:07:01.280 and then gave all the content to the New York Times who used it in the reporting.
00:07:07.700 Now the judge is saying, hey, both sides here,
00:07:11.660 you need to remind me again why you want a lot of these documents here.
00:07:17.400 There are 15 pending motions here where both parties are saying
00:07:23.340 we want to keep this information sealed from the public.
00:07:27.380 Now the judge is saying you have five days to convince me
00:07:31.020 why I should still keep some of this information sealed.
00:07:35.740 And he also says that some of this information is already public
00:07:38.760 because it was filed in the Lively v. Baldoni lawsuit.
00:07:43.760 So we've seen some of this already.
00:07:45.780 And one thing you can say about Judge Lyman,
00:07:48.200 a lot of people have said that he's biased,
00:07:50.460 but one thing is true about him.
00:07:52.440 He likes transparency.
00:07:55.060 He wants the public to know what's going on.
00:07:58.980 So we could soon see some more really relevant evidence
00:08:05.320 coming out here in regards to Van Zand.
00:08:09.880 And we've been waiting for that for a really long time.
00:08:13.320 We could find out who communicated with Stephanie Jones
00:08:16.580 about Jennifer Abel's phone.
00:08:19.300 We could see that communication.
00:08:21.360 What happened to the phone data once it was produced?
00:08:26.800 Once Stephanie Jones had the physical phone, 0.82
00:08:30.540 what did she do with the contents?
00:08:32.680 How did she present it to Blake Lively?
00:08:35.320 and how did Blake Lively present it to the New York Times?
00:08:38.860 All of that stuff could come out now.
00:08:41.240 And we know that Jennifer Abel subpoenaed Van Zand,
00:08:45.280 this company, to get to the bottom of all this information.
00:08:49.120 We'll also find out if Van Zand,
00:08:52.140 who said that they sued a lot of Jane Doe's and John Doe's,
00:08:56.340 meaning a lot of anonymous people,
00:08:58.220 if they only subpoenaed one phone,
00:09:01.640 which is also very telling that they had one thing in mind here and that was to get hold of
00:09:08.560 this phone because they knew what was on it which means that stephanie jones had been poking around 1.00
00:09:15.320 already finding text messages in jennifer ables her employee's phone and she wanted to punish her 0.92
00:09:23.840 ex-employee for leaving her company and the way she wanted to do that was to share this information 1.00
00:09:30.000 with Blake Lively so she could ruin Jennifer Abel.
00:09:34.500 As you know, she also sued Justin Baldoni 0.86
00:09:37.280 on the Wayfair parties.
00:09:38.420 That is the most crazy part about that lawsuit.
00:09:42.100 She sued them for leaving her company
00:09:44.660 and choosing to go with Jennifer Abel
00:09:48.040 and her new company as well.
00:09:50.420 I mean, the audacity here.
00:09:52.700 It's mind-blowing.
00:09:54.480 Anyways, deadline here is the 17th.
00:09:57.080 So just five days from now.
00:09:58.900 And then after that, I'm guessing that both parties can argue a little bit more.
00:10:02.600 But this is happening in the near future, which I'm super excited about.
00:10:07.740 Also, let's talk about Perez Hilton here.
00:10:09.600 I know that some people disagreed with what I said the other day.
00:10:13.200 They accused me of not showing enough empathy, basically.
00:10:17.580 I questioned, amongst other things, I questioned if Perez Hilton has changed.
00:10:23.120 And that does not mean that I'm saying that he doesn't deserve compassion,
00:10:27.400 because I really believe that he does.
00:10:30.280 I feel sorry for Perez.
00:10:32.300 I feel sorry for his family.
00:10:34.300 But questioning if he has changed
00:10:36.300 and wanting what's best for him,
00:10:39.340 they're two different things.
00:10:40.600 I feel a lot of responsibility
00:10:43.100 for all the young girls that he harmed.
00:10:46.960 What he did to Britney Spears, to Lindsay Lohan,
00:10:50.780 what he did specifically to Bruce Willis
00:10:54.300 and Emmy Moore's daughter, to Lula,
00:10:56.540 who has come forward and said that he bullied her parents to the extent when she was 13 or 14 years
00:11:05.940 old that she was considering ending everything. Also what he did to Taylor Momsen who was
00:11:13.240 photographed by a creepy paparazzi when she was on stage. She was 16 years old. This paparazzi
00:11:20.680 took a photo of her skirt, her tampon string was showing, and Perez decided to publish that
00:11:29.540 on his website. Then when his ledger passed away, Perez started selling merch. Why couldn't it be
00:11:37.200 Britney? He also outed other gay men who were not ready to come out yet. Amongst them, Lance Bass,
00:11:45.040 Neil Patrick Harris, Matt Boomer. It was traumatizing for all of them. Another thing is
00:11:51.140 people went on his side, they clicked on it. And the more people clicked on it, the more normalized
00:11:56.820 it was, and the more accepted it was. And a lot of people keep saying, everyone did that in the
00:12:02.400 2000s. And I would say, no, everyone didn't do that. And it's still not okay if other people
00:12:09.560 did it too. And he's trying to take responsibility for that. And I applaud him for trying to do that.
00:12:16.080 But what I questioned in my episode was, do we know if he has changed? Do you know? How do you
00:12:23.280 know if he actually has changed? Some people pointed to the fact that he found God means that
00:12:28.600 he has changed. I don't think finding God, finding any type of religion, getting married, having
00:12:34.900 children, getting sober, not any of those things automatically proves that you have changed. The
00:12:41.720 only thing that proves that you have changed is the way that you treat other people and I think
00:12:47.880 everyone should be allowed to ask that question without being called cruel. I also question the
00:12:53.500 fact that his family was using his website to update people on his condition but that doesn't
00:12:59.880 mean that i don't care about his family i don't know their motivation for doing that of course
00:13:05.940 and all we all could do is ask the questions and hopefully we'll get some more answers i am a
00:13:12.100 journalist and for me it's important not to just choose the most sympathetic direction
00:13:16.200 or the most cynical direction my job is to look at things and ask questions and that is where i
00:13:23.660 fan today as well i'm asking questions i'm questioning everything and of course i want
00:13:30.000 perez to get well and of course i want what's best for his children when perez went on tiktok
00:13:36.600 last week and did what he did i don't think that he was in a state of mind himself to understand
00:13:42.820 the consequences of what he did in that moment he hurt himself for reasons that we don't know
00:13:49.560 We can only speculate in why he did it.
00:13:52.800 And maybe even Perez himself doesn't know why he did it.
00:13:56.300 Some people believe it was the sepsis.
00:13:58.980 I personally don't believe that.
00:14:01.800 For medical reasons that I've done research on,
00:14:04.880 I think it's very, very, very unlikely that that is the reason that he did what he did.
00:14:10.100 And it shouldn't really matter what the reason is.
00:14:13.440 The matter is he did it and he also started doing it in front of his own children.
00:14:18.860 and he did it in front of a lot of people who stumbled upon this thing that traumatized them
00:14:26.840 and may traumatize them for a really really long time luckily his sister was present as well and
00:14:33.600 she managed to take the kids out of the house we don't know at this point how much they actually
00:14:39.600 witnessed and of course what this trauma will do to them and to their mental health in the future
00:14:46.760 My point here being, this is my opinion right now.
00:14:51.240 It might change.
00:14:52.640 If I learn more about the situation, I'm sure we will.
00:14:56.740 My opinion about what happened to him lately might change.
00:15:02.040 And as I said, I have very conflicting emotions about this.
00:15:06.100 And I'm sure a lot of you guys do too.
00:15:08.660 And I want this to be a safe space for everyone to vent their feelings.
00:15:13.600 And I've received emails from people who completely disagree with me and think that I am being too harsh.
00:15:21.660 And I understand that, too.
00:15:23.560 And the thing is, everyone has different reasons for looking at the situation the way that they do,
00:15:29.800 because we all have different baggage in our lives.
00:15:32.860 And we use that baggage to analyze things that are happening around us.
00:15:37.400 I hope that made things a little bit more clear.
00:15:40.060 and I want to thank everyone by the way for being so respectful and for also disagreeing with me
00:15:46.040 and sharing your opinions with me because I really appreciate that and sometimes you know people can
00:15:51.140 say things to me like oh I didn't think about it that way I really appreciate your perspective on
00:15:56.780 that and I think that's how we all learn to grow and how we all learn to learn from each other and
00:16:04.220 how we can still be in a safe space and still be able to share different opinions without being
00:16:11.580 mean or without being cruel or without attacking other people. And maybe that is a lesson from all
00:16:18.700 of this. Anyways, I wanted to give you guys a little bit of an update that I just saw on Daily
00:16:23.180 Mail about what's going to happen to Perez from now on. They've spoken to someone called Mark
00:16:29.180 Astor, who is a veteran Florida attorney specializing in Baker Act cases. So this is a
00:16:35.980 Baker Act case. And that is why Perez is not going to go home when his treatment at the hospital is
00:16:45.440 over. He is going to be, according to this article, locked up in a psychiatric ward for six months or
00:16:52.380 longer. He's been treated for his injuries and we know he's been in surgery as well. And they've
00:16:57.580 spoken to a friend of his here who's saying that Perez is not able to fully process what happened
00:17:04.260 and then they're saying here this is not going to be something where in five days I'm like he's fine
00:17:09.320 this is months maybe years and he won't be allowed to go home when he's medically discharged he will
00:17:16.720 instead be moved to a secure psychiatric facility where specialists will have 72 hours to assess
00:17:23.160 to assess his mental health the blogger could walk free when the clock runs down if they don't think
00:17:29.700 he's a risk to himself or others but that's a long shot according to mark astor who's this veteran
00:17:36.180 and he says you don't just walk out of there after 72 hours whether it's a mental health issue or all
00:17:43.120 of the above they need to get to the bottom of what has happened here this guy who's a former
00:17:47.760 prosecutor and defense attorney he's saying there are three options here or three possibilities
00:17:52.560 Number one, they could release him. Number two, they get him to agree to stay on a voluntary basis.
00:17:59.580 Or number three, they could file what's known as a petition to involuntary placements.
00:18:06.600 The latter would involve a Miami-Dade judge holding a hearing within five days to decide whether Hilton should remain locked up.
00:18:16.300 The case would be confidential, with media barred from attending or hearing any of the details.
00:18:22.560 They're going to be a prosecutor from the state attorney's office and either a private defense lawyer or a court-appointed public defender.
00:18:30.060 There'll probably be a doctor there from the facility saying this is why we need more time.
00:18:36.500 Patients can be held for a maximum of six months at a time, but a 30-day order is more realistic in Hilton's case, he's saying here.
00:18:44.000 He also says that the family has a crucial role in what's going to happen to him next.
00:18:48.640 and his family can't persuade the authorities to release him
00:18:52.720 and put him in a private facility,
00:18:54.880 which is going to cost between $15,000 to $30,000 per month.
00:18:59.420 That is a lot of money.
00:19:00.900 And as I've seen lately in reports,
00:19:02.780 Perez had financial difficulties as well.
00:19:06.520 So I don't know if that is going to be an option.
00:19:08.980 They could also apply to be his legal guardian.
00:19:12.220 It also says here that Hilton's three kids
00:19:14.640 are in the custody of their grandmother.
00:19:16.860 they had not been to the hospital to see their dad because family members fear it would be
00:19:22.480 too traumatic yeah I understand that and as you know we don't know how much his three children
00:19:28.780 witnessed from what was happening and I'm sure that their relationship to their father
00:19:34.780 is going to change after this and I think I read somewhere yesterday that maybe his sister and his
00:19:42.100 mom are going to get custody of the kids I just hope of course as I said so many times I really
00:19:50.580 feel for his children and they're at an age one is 13 the other one is 11 they understand a lot
00:19:57.900 the same attorney is saying also here that the fact that Perez did it online on TikTok suggests
00:20:03.580 he was praying for help somebody come and save me the idea here is to get him back in the game
00:20:10.500 not to tarnish him or to take his children away I think he's going to get the help he needs
00:20:15.800 and he's going to be a dad again yes he's still a dad and he will always be a dad to his children
00:20:22.240 maybe they're not going to live with him but he's still going to be their dad and I'm sure
00:20:28.040 he loves them very very much anyways there is another interesting report here from Rob Shooter
00:20:35.040 who says that he's talked to some of Perez's friends here and they have said to him that just
00:20:42.980 before this happened Perez claimed that he was no longer gay. Months leading up to the
00:20:50.160 hospitalization according to sources say that the celebrity blogger had embraced a radically
00:20:54.880 different view of his sexuality. He had openly been describing himself as ex-gay while becoming
00:21:02.320 increasingly involved with conservative Christian communities. He's saying here that Perez was
00:21:09.140 telling people he considered himself ex-gay. He was very serious about it. This wasn't a joke or 0.99
00:21:15.080 something he said once. He was telling people that he was no longer gay. He says here that
00:21:19.980 the revelation is particularly striking given Perez's history. For years, he was one of pop
00:21:24.660 culture's most recognizable LGBTQ plus voices. And he spoke to another source here who said he
00:21:30.240 had completely changed the way he talked about himself, talking about Perez. He was talking
00:21:35.520 about his sexuality differently and saying that he had found a new path through his faith. Several
00:21:42.480 people who knew Perez compared the transformation privately to commentator Milo Yiannopoulos,
00:21:49.180 who announced in 2021 that he was seeking to live as an ex-gay man after recommitting himself
00:21:56.560 to Catholicism. People around Perez were making that comparison privately. They saw something
00:22:02.280 moving away from the identity that had defined him publicly for decades. I don't know if this
00:22:09.720 is true or not, so I'm going to say allegedly, but I find it interesting that that happened
00:22:14.760 just before this entire scenario on TikTok. Anyways, let me know your thoughts, you guys,
00:22:23.100 on all of this i hope i made myself a bit clearer in this episode and where i stand and of course
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