Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - July 02, 2026


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00:00:00.000 It has Ryan Reynolds written all over it.
00:00:03.340 I would not be surprised if that is the case.
00:00:10.500 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.
00:00:12.320 I'm Tashdi Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:15.160 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:19.420 I just had two amazing attorneys on here, Mark Garagos and Matt Murphy,
00:00:25.400 and we talked about these legal fees that are just insane
00:00:29.700 And according to them, Blake can expect to get around $80,000, not $8 million.
00:00:37.420 If you missed that episode, you should definitely check it out.
00:00:40.260 I will link it down below in this episode as well.
00:00:43.040 And guess what?
00:00:44.420 As expected, I said this yesterday that I knew that Deadline would be the first outlet to report on this.
00:00:53.120 And guess what? They were. Dominic Patton, the journalist who's been in Blake's attorney's
00:00:59.760 pocket since this started, already published a story at 7.18 a.m. yesterday. It is all so
00:01:08.280 predictable at this point. And of course, the headline was just as predictable, saying Blake
00:01:14.360 Lively reveals the millions. Her legal battle with Justin Baldoni costs slams scorched earth
00:01:21.520 litigation tactics designed to drain Lively's resources. Yeah and as expected all the other
00:01:29.860 outlets followed saying that Blake is asking for eight million dollars making it look like
00:01:35.900 she won something. Like I said yesterday it's going to be so embarrassing for her when she 0.52
00:01:42.780 receives about 80 to 100 thousand dollars instead. How on earth are her attorneys going to explain 0.99
00:01:48.820 that to the media. Anyways when I spoke about this yesterday we hadn't seen the itemized expense list
00:01:56.120 and now it's out there and I have it here and these expenses are just ridiculous. Also I watched
00:02:07.140 Little Girl Attorney this morning and she thinks that maybe Ryan Reynolds was the one who actually
00:02:12.800 wrote the brief or the intro of the brief. So let's get into that as well. And let's talk about
00:02:19.180 some other news too. Colleen Hoover is now producing a movie. This is for Ali Hazelwood's 1.00
00:02:25.380 bestseller Love Theoretically and fans are furious. Let's also look at how model Cara Delevingne just
00:02:34.380 came out and said that she had an affair with Amber Heard. Well, she's still married to Johnny
00:02:40.700 Depp when that happened. It kind of seems like that. Anyways, let's start looking at this
00:02:46.440 breakdown. There are 162 pages of expenses here and they start off in January of 2024 when this
00:02:56.820 lawsuit was filed, the counter lawsuit that Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair Party is filed against
00:03:01.040 Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds and Leslie Sloan. Keep in mind here that Blake cannot claim
00:03:07.500 attorney's fees covered for when her attorneys defended ryan reynolds and leslie sloan that
00:03:15.200 should be separate bills but anyways the interesting part here is that of course 162 pages
00:03:21.440 it's insane and it goes on from january of 2024 until now there is a lot of expenses
00:03:29.300 in September, October, November, December of last year,
00:03:34.580 while Justin's lawsuit was dismissed in May of last year.
00:03:38.860 Try to make sense of all of this.
00:03:41.580 The judge is definitely not going to allow this.
00:03:46.080 Also, another interesting thing here is
00:03:47.980 there are no invoices attached.
00:03:50.200 They're claiming that Blake already paid all of this,
00:03:53.720 so why can't they show any invoices?
00:03:56.740 A lot of these expenses are super vague,
00:03:59.060 And they're using words like strategy, review, research, analysis, revise, drafting, investigation, strategy calls.
00:04:10.840 And talk about calls.
00:04:12.340 They're claiming that they had a lot of five and six hour long phone calls with meetings about strategy and analysis and drafting and reviews and whatever.
00:04:26.320 Also, as you know, they're charging per hour.
00:04:28.300 i talked about how much they charge per hour yesterday and of course they have to share the
00:04:32.760 amount of hours that they spend on different things and there are hours like 2.6 hours 0.8
00:04:40.500 hours how do you calculate that i spent 0.8 hours on this there are so many amazing things here but
00:04:48.080 as i said it's 162 pages so i'm not going to go through all of that obviously but there are things
00:04:53.000 like this. This is an expense of $6,733. And it was a discussion about strategies and how to
00:05:01.140 respond to a statement in TMZ. They charged $6,733 for that. Isn't that amazing? Especially
00:05:10.380 considering all the statements that they gave on behalf of Blake Lively that backfired on her
00:05:15.640 tremendously and made her even more unpopular every time they opened their mouth. And then
00:05:21.440 they're charging her a leg and an arm for it also this one really caught my eye this is an expense
00:05:28.120 of nine thousand five hundred and twenty dollars and it says there is to prepare for and participate
00:05:34.900 in calls with xx so they're not telling us who it was strategy analysis and discussions with team
00:05:43.640 regarding legal and xx so this person's respond to inquiry review of various social media
00:05:51.360 posts and comments anyways they're lumping a lot of stuff in here but especially that they're
00:05:57.700 charging almost ten thousand dollars and it's a review of various social media posts and comments
00:06:03.620 i wonder if they reviewed and looked at comments from my channel and then charged ten thousand 0.99
00:06:09.820 dollars for doing so isn't that kind of ironic anyways we also see that all of her attorneys
00:06:15.700 when they travel to LA or from New York to LA or LA to New York they are always flying first class
00:06:22.660 and they always stay at the Beekman which is basically a five-star hotel downtown in New York
00:06:28.060 so they're living this luxury lifestyle that they're asking Justin Baldoni to pay for. One of
00:06:33.460 their flights from New York to LA was $4,617. Anyways this was quite interesting someone on
00:06:40.160 Reddit looked at a similar case that Judge Lyman awarded attorney's fees earlier this year. So this
00:06:49.300 was a lawsuit that was filed in 2023 and Lyman awarded $99,000 in attorney's fees and cost for
00:06:57.680 three counts. This case was a trademark infringement case and in three years the docket had 169
00:07:05.340 entries, which shows how ridiculous Lively vs. Wayfair really is, with over a thousand docket
00:07:10.800 entries and litigation only lasting 18 months compared to three years. And here's a ruling from
00:07:17.240 Judge Lyman on that case. It says he's hereby ordered a judge and decreed that for the reasons
00:07:22.180 stated in the court's memorandum and order dated May 21st, 2026, so just a little over a month ago,
00:07:27.920 The court award plaintiffs $98,250 in attorney's fees and $990 in expenses for a total of $99,240.
00:07:41.220 So why, as this person was pointing out on Reddit, why would Judge Lyman reward Blake with anything near even a million dollars? 0.84
00:07:50.420 It is ridiculous. 0.81
00:07:52.140 And as I've seen some lawyers talk about it, it is embarrassing for them. 0.99
00:07:56.500 How could they have signed off on this?
00:07:59.320 As I said in the beginning, I watched Little Girl Eternity this morning,
00:08:02.680 and she said that she thinks that Ryan Reynolds was the one
00:08:05.560 who actually wrote the introduction to this brief,
00:08:09.280 opening this whole thing with how Steve Sarwitz had said
00:08:12.880 that he was going to ruin Blake Lively and their families
00:08:17.020 and comparing it to a holy war.
00:08:20.080 Ezra Hudson, Michael Gottlieb, if I ever interviewed them,
00:08:24.160 i would ask them is ryan reynolds writing your introductions because it has that same flavor of
00:08:30.800 desperate sort of cheeky slapstick comedy that he is so good at taking cheap shots and
00:08:39.560 cringe comedy this is cringe comedy this is not legal writing the wayfair parties employed
00:08:47.260 scorched earth litigation tactics promoting a sham lawsuit are you so for real it has ryan
00:08:56.020 reynolds written all over it i would not be surprised if that is the case as you know he
00:09:01.920 loves authorships as much as his wife and he believes that the media of course is going to
00:09:07.740 eat this up which they really didn't they did get these headlines but it's going to look so
00:09:12.820 embarrassing for them when the judge allows them only 80 to a hundred thousand dollars how are they
00:09:19.420 going to respond to that and look at this this is amazing to me so Ezra Hudson is at it again as
00:09:25.900 someone sent me an email sharing this with me pointing to Ezra Hudson's LinkedIn she is one of
00:09:30.860 the main lawyers for Blake Lively it's her and Michael Gottlieb and she says this on LinkedIn
00:09:37.420 She says, honored to be recognized by Ross Todd and Litigation Daily for this important victory on behalf of our courageous, precedent-setting client, Blake Lively, who is the first person in history to obtain attorney's fees and costs in federal court under California Civil Code Section 47.1.
00:09:59.420 after successfully defeating an unlawful retaliatory defamation action.
00:10:06.780 By doing so, she paved a path for victims of S.H. and retaliation
00:10:11.400 to protect themselves from litigation designed to silence them.
00:10:15.940 Proud to have worked alongside our friends and co-counsel Wilkie, Farr and Gallagher.
00:10:24.260 So she works for Manat, as you know, and Michael Gottlieb works for Wilkie, Farr and Gallagher.
00:10:29.060 i mean as you know last time she posted something bragging about this i spoke about it here on my
00:10:35.220 channel and then people went on there and commented on it and guess what she took it down so let's see
00:10:41.880 how long this stays up on her linkedin page i wish there was a community note option on linkedin as 0.86
00:10:48.080 well so people could actually comment on this to say hey this attorney is unethical anyways let's
00:10:55.240 jump onto something else here Colleen Hoover has become a Hollywood producer can you believe it
00:11:02.100 when you've seen her communication and you witnessed her behavior during it ends with us
00:11:08.540 this woman has absolutely no backbone she supported Blake she backstabbed Justin Baldoni
00:11:15.580 and she said to Blake in text messages that she was so grateful for her because she had no idea 0.97
00:11:22.080 how to make a movie. She'd never done it before and now she's producing a movie for another author,
00:11:29.200 another adaptation from the author Ali Hasselwood's bestseller, Love Theoretically. It's going to be
00:11:36.680 on Amazon MGM. It's so mind-blowing to me that Hollywood, who witnessed all of this go down,
00:11:45.180 would bet on someone like Colleen Hoover. As you know, it ends with us did really well at the box
00:11:50.620 office but that was thanks to justin boldoni and because jamie heat and justin boldoni produced
00:11:56.100 the movie blake lively did everything she could to sabotage that but colin hoover's other movies
00:12:01.120 have been trashed it says here that regretting you made respectably 90 million dollars in the
00:12:07.540 box office and her next movie coming out verity starting anne hathaway and dakota johnson will
00:12:14.920 mark her fourth adaptation in just over two years so the studios are really betting on her because
00:12:20.600 because of the success of It Ends With Us.
00:12:22.640 I can't watch any of her stuff.
00:12:24.140 I just saw how the regretting you got trashed online and people hated it.
00:12:29.900 So the fact that she's now producing for someone else is just shocking to me.
00:12:34.140 I wonder if her and Blake Lively has any contact anymore.
00:12:37.960 She has spoken up about how this experience was so traumatizing for her,
00:12:42.460 but she never blamed Blake Lively for it.
00:12:44.520 She basically blamed Justin Baldoni
00:12:46.620 because she also believed that there was a smear campaign against Blake.
00:12:50.600 But now I bet she doesn't want anything to do with Blake anymore 0.55
00:12:53.820 because she knows that she's toxic. 0.92
00:12:56.200 And I think Colleen Hoover mainly thinks about herself.
00:12:59.240 So now I'm guessing that Blake is a little bit bitter here 0.99
00:13:01.920 because she wants to produce movies, as you know,
00:13:05.120 and she didn't get the opportunity to do that.
00:13:07.240 And I don't think she will ever get the opportunity to do that
00:13:11.160 after what she has done.
00:13:13.320 Anyways, I also wanted to mention this story about Cara Delevingne.
00:13:16.840 I watched an interview with her yesterday
00:13:19.000 where she talked about taking an overdose she nearly died there were all these pictures of her
00:13:24.700 before she got into rehab and she looked like a mess her friends were really worried about her
00:13:30.580 and there were pictures of Margot Robbie amongst others leaving her house crying they were so
00:13:36.100 worried about her now she's spoken up about that and she's also spoken up about her affair with
00:13:42.580 Amber Heard and the Hollywood Reporter did the story on this saying Cara Delevingne says she
00:13:48.620 and Amber Heard dated through Johnny Depp divorce he was driven crazy by jealousy she said she was
00:13:57.580 also entangled with other people Cara Delevingne said and then the host said that oh pointing at
00:14:03.580 Elon Musk as you know there were videos of the two of them in the elevator I think in the building
00:14:09.420 that she had and a relationship with Elon Musk I don't know when she was with Johnny as well
00:14:15.160 but Cara said here that her and Amber met at a movie set in a movie that Johnny Depp was also
00:14:23.760 in and Cara also said in this interview that I think Johnny was pretty driven crazy by jealousy
00:14:29.880 nothing was happening at that point later after they divorced it had I suppose she said later
00:14:36.960 after they divorced then something happened but they met on this set and she's claiming that
00:14:41.940 nothing happened on this set while she was with Johnny but Johnny was driven
00:14:46.380 crazy by jealousy hmm something is a little weird there I'm not gonna say
00:14:50.700 that something happened definitely between them while she was still with
00:14:54.560 Johnny but I wouldn't be surprised to me it seems like Amber is a lesbian and
00:14:59.180 has always been a lesbian and then she met Johnny Depp and she was like oh this
00:15:03.360 is a great opportunity for me career wise to be with someone so famous and it
00:15:08.980 open doors for me but she never loved him if you ask me I don't think she ever loved him I feel 0.96
00:15:14.220 like I've seen that with men marrying women for show when they're gay they're letting all their
00:15:19.740 frustration out on their partner because they can't live openly as gay and I think that's
00:15:24.820 exactly what happened with Amber Heard as well and as you know now she's with a woman and Cara
00:15:30.220 Delevingne is with a woman and I guess it would look really bad for Amber Heard if it got out
00:15:35.880 that she was cheating on Johnny with Cara Delevingne.
00:15:39.260 So she says here that it happened after their divorce.
00:15:43.160 She also said that Harvey Weinstein had called her
00:15:45.700 and asked her if she's gay.
00:15:48.080 And she said yes.
00:15:49.180 And he had said to her, 0.99
00:15:50.520 you should never be in a relationship with a woman
00:15:52.940 because it's going to tarnish your career. 1.00
00:15:55.260 And she listened to him.
00:15:56.960 And maybe he told the same thing to Amber Heard.
00:15:59.640 And that's why she married Johnny Depp.
00:16:01.780 What a disaster for Johnny, by the way. 1.00
00:16:04.700 I still feel so sorry for everything that he had to go through with this crazy lunatic of a woman. 1.00
00:16:10.620 I wish Cara Delevingne all the best, by the way. 1.00
00:16:13.020 I met her once. 0.52
00:16:13.980 I was at an Elle photo shoot with her.
00:16:16.900 I was doing an interview with her.
00:16:18.560 I was following her.
00:16:19.540 I was making the behind-the-scenes video with this other producer.
00:16:23.720 We did like a short Q&A with her.
00:16:26.100 And then I also sat down and did a deeper interview with her.
00:16:29.300 And she was super, super nice. 0.54
00:16:31.360 She only ate like a handful of popcorn the entire day, by the way. 0.96
00:16:36.260 I was looking at her thinking like, I've never seen anything so skinny in my life. 0.99
00:16:40.380 Her skin was almost see-through.
00:16:42.660 But of course, at that point, she was a very troubled woman as well. 1.00
00:16:45.980 And her manager was there and he was a complete asshole. 1.00
00:16:50.000 He's one of those people who give celebrities a bad rep. 1.00
00:16:53.440 He yelled at me on the cameraman for shooting her while she was getting her makeup done.
00:16:58.640 That was the entire deal.
00:17:00.000 we were there for Elle magazine to do this shoot and he was yelling at us all the time for following
00:17:05.140 her around and I was like you know what this is our job we are here to do this she's going to be
00:17:10.240 on the cover of Elle all over the world and and we are hired to do this job and then he was like 0.99
00:17:16.760 if I wasn't in a good mood today I would have just kicked you guys out my job is to be an asshole and 0.98
00:17:23.000 that's what I am and I was like wow I really hope that she's got herself a new manager because that 0.98
00:17:28.860 man was horrible anyways thank you guys so much for watching i really appreciate all your support
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