Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - You WONT Believe This !!

00:00:00.000 Okay, we have another lawsuit. I'm not joking. Oh my god, lol. Okay, this one will be fun.

00:00:15.100 Hi, you're welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Sachdi Flore, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:19.480 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Okay, we have another lawsuit. I'm

00:00:28.520 not joking. This is actually number 10 connected to Blake Lively's original lawsuit against Justin

00:00:37.660 Baldoni at the Wayfair parties. This is out of control now. And guess what? It's Blake and Ryan's

00:00:45.740 anniversary. It's been 14 years since they got married on a plantation and People magazine is

00:00:53.840 celebrating also let's look at one of the very few decent people in that original lawsuit

00:01:00.960 justin baldoni's agent over at wme and the fact that there were several agents inside the same

00:01:09.460 agency who were representing opposite side of this conflict and guess who else works at wme

00:01:17.020 Stephanie Jones' husband. Yeah, Justin Baldoni's ex-publicist who's now suing him

00:01:24.300 and basically everyone else. And this story really caught my attention this morning.

00:01:30.240 I did not know about the feud between Henry Winkler, one of Hollywood's nicest men,

00:01:37.620 and Tom Hanks, also one of Hollywood's nicest men. What really happened between them? Now Henry

00:01:46.060 Winkler has opened up in a new interview and this is really juicy and we have to talk about this

00:01:53.300 other PR disaster involving John Malkovich. I could not believe this story when I read it. He

00:02:01.380 just experienced what happens when someone just put words in your mouth and make up quotes that

00:02:07.240 you never said to drag you into a political conflict. This is really insane. Okay let's start

00:02:14.780 with Blake and Ryan's 14th wedding anniversary.

00:02:19.120 It's so funny to me

00:02:20.900 how none of them actually mentioned this

00:02:23.300 on their social media accounts,

00:02:25.200 but People Magazine, they never forget.

00:02:28.940 So they reminded everyone yesterday

00:02:31.820 that it was Blake and Ryan's 14th wedding anniversary.

00:02:36.660 By doing this story,

00:02:38.400 19 times Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively

00:02:41.280 expertly trolled each other

00:02:43.400 as they celebrate 14 years of marriage they don't even know if they celebrate 14 years of marriage

00:02:49.480 by the way how do they know we haven't seen any evidence of that but anyways then they say this

00:02:55.160 may their 14 years of love last forever and their sense of humor never fade that's what people

00:03:04.080 magazine says about the couple by the way who got married on a plantation which of course

00:03:11.680 resulted in a humongous backlash they had to come out publicly and apologize for that and i remember

00:03:20.380 i read somewhere that blake said she didn't really know that it was a plantation she just saw the

00:03:25.940 location on pinterest and she was like oh that looks really beautiful yeah i wonder actually if

00:03:32.060 people magazine has some kind of deal with blake and ryan that they have to publish approximately

00:03:39.500 two to three articles about them every single week because the fact that they are actually

00:03:44.020 making an article about their anniversary when Blake and Ryan didn't even post anything about

00:03:49.300 it themselves just says a lot to me and this story is so ridiculous so they're mentioning 19 times

00:03:56.960 here when you scroll through that Blake and Ryan did something fun on social media they say here

00:04:04.160 some couples prefer to show how much they love each other with grand romantic gestures or long

00:04:10.180 effusive love letters but brian reynolds and blake lively prefer to show their affection

00:04:16.000 in a much more relatable way by trolling the heck out of each other as much as possible

00:04:24.300 from sarcastic captions to unflattering candid photos to poking fun at each other on talk shows

00:04:31.140 check out Ryan Reynolds and Blakely's best trolling moments below as they mark 14 years

00:04:37.400 of marriage. I mean this sounds like a fan page. It is so bad. Yeah this is so dumb and why is it

00:04:46.160 more relatable to poke fun and troll each other than to actually have grand romantic gestures and 0.98

00:04:54.100 effusive love letters to each other? Why is it more relatable to post unflattering pictures of

00:05:00.600 your wife online I don't get that but they have to put the word relatable in there because that

00:05:06.240 is their new image they're so relatable okay so let's get into this new lawsuit that was filed

00:05:15.340 by Stephanie Jones who used to represent Justin Baldoni and she also had an employee called

00:05:23.300 Jennifer Abel and she also used to have an employee called Katie Case. Katie Case left her 1.00

00:05:30.660 company after less than a year and Jennifer Abel I think worked there for three years and she was

00:05:36.460 repping Justin Baldoni and the Wayfarer parties for I think about a year or maybe it was shorter

00:05:42.640 than that actually. But anyways now she filed another lawsuit and this is as I said number

00:05:50.980 10 of lawsuits coming from Blake Lively's original lawsuit. So you know she sued the 0.98

00:05:59.520 Wayfair parties and Justin Baldoni and then Baldoni and the Wayfair parties sued her and

00:06:06.020 Ryan Reynolds and Leslie Sloan and then Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties also sued the

00:06:12.600 New York Times and then Jones Work or Stephanie Jones sued Jennifer Abel and the Wayfair parties

00:06:22.760 Justin Boltoni and then Jed Wallace that guy in Texas also sued Blake Lively and then the

00:06:31.600 reporter from the Daily Mail James Svitushka sued the Daily Mail after they fired him because he

00:06:38.020 got dragged into this lawsuit and then harko which is the wafer parties insurance company

00:06:47.160 they are now suing wafer parties and baldone because they don't want to pay all these legal

00:06:54.280 fees from blake lively's lawsuit and then the wafer parties and it ends with us has a separate

00:07:02.240 insurance litigation going on in California and then the New York Times sued Baldoni and the

00:07:10.540 Wayfair parties to get their attorney's fees and now Stephanie Jones is suing Katie Case. 0.99

00:07:21.560 You have probably heard me talk about her before and that is because Katie Case went from working 0.80

00:07:30.880 with stephanie jones to working for tag this crisis management company that justin baldoni

00:07:38.460 hired to help him out of this pr disaster created by blake lively and her team during all the

00:07:46.940 spectacle surrounding it ends with us melissa nathan also works for tag so melissa nathan and

00:07:53.380 Katie Case were colleagues and Katie Case has been deposed by Stephanie Jones and she said

00:08:02.820 under oath that she wrote a copy meaning she wrote the text and gave it to Melissa Nathan

00:08:13.320 and that text that she wrote ended up on one of those websites that was created to smear

00:08:22.600 stephanie jones we don't know who created those websites stephanie jones has shown no evidence of

00:08:28.500 who created those websites but as i said before melissa nason says i didn't do that and there's

00:08:35.520 no evidence that she actually did that so melissa nason and katie case have very different stories

00:08:42.040 here and one of them is obviously lying and now stephanie jones has sued katie case for 10 million 0.95

00:08:52.240 dollars she's suing her for punitive damages attorney's fees and costs and interest and 0.98

00:09:00.000 and any additional relief that the court considers appropriate this case is never going to trial 1.00

00:09:06.800 let's face it i don't know why she's doing it is she doing it to put pressure on katie case 1.00

00:09:13.380 so that katie case maybe can give her some more evidence to get out of this lawsuit 1.00

00:09:18.520 or is she doing it because she thinks she can actually get 10 million dollars i don't know 1.00

00:09:24.420 i just find it crazy that these people still want to sue each other she's also accusing katie case

00:09:32.520 of helping to plant that story about her in the business insider where she was really torn down

00:09:39.140 by a lot of people from the industry everyone was anonymous but they all said you know that

00:09:44.240 she was terrible to work with and clients didn't like her they were dropping her left and right 0.95

00:09:49.720 and that article really harmed her and what's interesting now is that katie case had to testify

00:09:56.780 in the rebel wilson versus the amanda ghost case you know rebel wilson is suing her producer who's

00:10:05.400 suing her back and in that case there are some text messages and a few of those text messages

00:10:12.700 have been produced and according to abc here it says that text messages tended to the court show

00:10:19.880 miss case received a text from tag chief executive melissa nathan in august of 2024 telling her that 1.00

00:10:27.700 miss wilson rebel wilson wanted one of those sites it can be really harsh making her a madam 1.00

00:10:36.160 basically miss miss nathan texted miss case and then miss case responded like this oh my god lol 0.74

00:10:45.140 okay this one will be fun and it says here that court documents allege the site was published at

00:10:53.040 the addresses amandaghost.com and amandaghostsucks.com and accused miss ghost of being a madam

00:11:02.000 Under cross-examination, it says here that Ms. Case told the court

00:11:07.340 she could not be entirely sure who wrote the initial copy,

00:11:11.500 just that Melissa Nathan sent it to her for editing.

00:11:15.340 In her defense filed in court, Ms. Wilson denied that there were defamatory meanings

00:11:20.420 conveyed by the posts and websites.

00:11:24.420 So yes, as I said, somebody is lying here.

00:11:28.100 this to me sounds more like high school than anything else i can't believe if this is what 0.90

00:11:35.060 happened allegedly that people create websites to smear each other it's so ridiculous and especially

00:11:44.020 if it is about someone like amanda goes who no one really knows who is who's gonna go on that

00:11:50.080 website to see like someone trashing a producer about something i mean it's so juvenile but

00:11:57.160 anyways another interesting connection here is stephanie jones husband jason hodes who also

00:12:06.260 works for wme the same agency that reps ryan reynolds blake lively and used to rep justin

00:12:16.920 baldoni so did he also help getting justin baldoni fired from wme i don't know but it's

00:12:26.360 interesting how all of these things are just connected and people at WME that were working

00:12:33.860 in the same company were representing different interests here because of course Danny Greenberg

00:12:40.920 who was representing Justin Baldoni he had colleagues who were representing Ryan Reynolds

00:12:48.260 and Blake Wively and of course that got kind of messy and I had not seen this text message before

00:12:55.700 So I wanted to read it to you when Danny Greenberg, Justin Baldoni's agent, is texting Patrick Whitesell, also a WMA agent really high up in the system.

00:13:08.600 And this is on August 4th of 2024, just before the premiere of it ends with us. 0.99

00:13:14.280 And he's saying, off tomorrow to NYC to this shit show. 0.99

00:13:20.440 Kind of quiet now, but Justin's crisis team ready for a war with her. 1.00

00:13:26.620 They have all kinds of garbage on her. 0.99

00:13:29.960 I wonder what that is. 0.99

00:13:31.600 All the garbage they had on Blake. 0.99

00:13:34.020 I mean, did it all come out or do they still have this garbage? 0.98

00:13:39.340 And then Danny says, my guess is if this blows up, 0.65

00:13:42.760 Ryan Reynolds will call you to make me clip our guy I'll put the over under on that by next

00:13:50.180 Monday maybe we'll get lucky and it stays quiet but unlikely movie is going to work

00:13:57.420 that's it for now brother and Patrick Whitesell says okay good luck fun times and interestingly

00:14:06.660 enough a few weeks before this happened Danny Greenberg had already received a phone call or a

00:14:16.460 text or communication from Ryan Reynolds putting pressure on him so these texts are from July 22nd

00:14:24.640 of 2024 and Justin is texting with Danny and he said he missed his phone call and he says I'm in

00:14:33.460 Sweden right now I'm gonna be here until the premiere basically I'm guessing he just fled

00:14:40.100 because he couldn't deal with all the drama good for him and Justin is saying to Dani here

00:14:46.020 by the way just want to thank you again for having my back on that call with Ryan I shared what you

00:14:52.800 said with Emily his wife and that really meant a lot to both of us someone in this business had a

00:14:59.300 backbone enough to stand up for me and then danny says always it felt good doing it hooray for danny

00:15:08.320 greenberg who was one of the few people who actually stood up against blake and ryan here

00:15:13.580 and he's still working for wme by the way but he was forced to clip justin baldani by maybe aria

00:15:22.200 Emmanuel that's what it looks like because he said in interviews that he he is ride or die for Blake

00:15:29.800 and Ryan and Bologna or whatever his name is yeah he doesn't care about him. A terrible terrible look

00:15:37.600 for Aria Manuel who is one of the big bosses over at WME. Blake's team even tried to put words

00:15:45.220 in Danny Greenberg's mouth, making it sound like he had said to someone at the premiere of It Ends

00:15:52.820 With Us that Steve Sarawitz had told him that he was willing to spend a hundred million dollars

00:15:59.380 to bury Blake Wively. That never happened, according to Danny Greenberg, who told the truth

00:16:08.200 In his testimony, it says in the court papers here

00:16:11.960 that Greenberg has no memory of Sarawitz mentioning ruining anyone's life.

00:16:18.600 And it says here, Greenberg recalls that Sarawitz stated,

00:16:22.400 I have lawyers and in the event I need to,

00:16:26.560 and this becomes a legal situation, I am prepared to spare no expense.

00:16:31.360 I mean that is very different from how Blake and Ryan I'm guessing presented this in legal papers

00:16:40.580 yeah saying that you are prepared to spare no expense to defend yourself against someone

00:16:45.640 is very different than saying that you're willing to spend a hundred million dollars to ruin

00:16:50.700 someone's life I'm guessing by now that's probably what Blake and Ryan almost spend

00:16:56.480 trying to ruin someone's life. Anyways, let's jump to this story about two of Hollywood's nicest guys

00:17:04.940 who has had a feud going on for over 40 years. And let's discuss this PR disaster involving

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00:19:02.560 Okay, so let's get back into it.

00:19:04.800 This really caught my attention because both Henry Winkler and Tom Hanks are known for being really nice guys.

00:19:13.820 I have never met Tom Hanks, like I've never interviewed him.

00:19:17.280 I've just met him at parties so I don't have any personal experience with him but I do have a

00:19:24.220 personal experience with Henry Winkler. Interviewing him is one of the nicest experiences of my career.

00:19:31.220 I have to say he really made my day. After my interview with him he came into the press room

00:19:39.280 and he pointed at me and he said you had really good questions. I really enjoyed our conversation.

00:19:47.280 and to me that was such an amazing compliment so he has a special place in my heart because of that

00:19:53.520 obviously and because he was so sweet during our conversation so what happened between him

00:19:59.940 and Tom Hanks well now Henry Winkler is opening up about this feud he's now 80 years old and I'm

00:20:09.320 imagining that he doesn't really care anymore if the truth comes out so this is the story that

00:20:15.880 Henry Winkler told in this interview he was hired in 1989 to direct Turner and Hooch and he was

00:20:27.580 hired by Disney and the chairman at the time Jeffrey Katzenberg and the movie was starring

00:20:33.200 Tom Hanks and Mar Winningham in the interview talks about how he prepared for this director

00:20:39.880 role and he spent 11 weeks doing research and preparing himself and then he got to the set

00:20:47.820 and Tom Hanks was not having it. I guess at that time being insecure I talked too much

00:20:57.280 and I gave them direction I what I thought was my job and I wanted to do it over again

00:21:06.680 and apparently that pissed them off.

00:21:13.060 I'm called into Jeff Katzenberg's office

00:21:15.860 and he said, it's not in the dailies.

00:21:19.560 I then go to the set, I get my things,

00:21:24.180 I drive home, I'm fired.

00:21:26.720 Yes, he got fired.

00:21:29.700 And it really sounds like he's blaming Tom Hanks

00:21:32.580 for getting fired.

00:21:34.000 he does admit that he was a bit insecure and maybe he talked too much and gave them too much

00:21:40.640 direction but also as he said you know that was my job i was there to direct so i have to give

00:21:46.960 people directions so who knows all the details here but earlier henry winkler described a situation

00:21:56.240 with Tom Hanks where he said that he described a scouting location in Carmel where he was

00:22:04.160 with Tom Hanks and a woman came running out of the store shouting Henry Fonz. As you know he played

00:22:12.240 Fonz in the very successful TV show Happy Days and people recognized him everywhere and he said

00:22:20.000 at the time that he tried to include Tom Hanks by introducing him to this woman but after Henry

00:22:26.060 Winkler was fired, the cinematographer reportedly told him that he knew the

00:22:31.640 firing was coming from the moment that happened. So it sounds like Tom Hanks was

00:22:38.360 a little jealous and he couldn't deal with Henry Winkler getting more

00:22:43.100 attention than him. This was in 1989 so Tom Hanks already had success but he

00:22:49.040 wasn't really famous yet. In this interview with a Graham Benzinger, Henry

00:22:55.220 Winkler says that he didn't really deal with this very well when it happened it really really got to

00:23:01.940 him. I don't handle it well I'm devastated Jim Wyatt was my agent at William Morris at that time

00:23:09.680 who was another titan calls me up immediately says we're going to lunch you got to get out there

00:23:16.020 you got to be seen I go okay I didn't even have an appetite. And interestingly enough before this

00:23:22.860 actually happened tom hanks was had a guest appearance on henry winkler's show happy days

00:23:30.440 that was in 1982 and that was tom hanks kind of big break and in this recent conversation

00:23:37.980 winkler said that they did a retrospective of happy days and they wanted to use 60 seconds

00:23:46.980 of tom hanks from that episode and we did not get permission for that so that tells you everything

00:23:54.840 about where tom hanks stands in this situation another thing that's telling about where tom

00:24:01.220 hanks stands here is that he never commented on this his reps never wanted to comment on any of

00:24:09.040 this so i think it's obviously really bad blood here still and then henry wrinkle was asked about

00:24:16.300 his perspective on the relationship with Tom Hanks now and he said I am still working on my

00:24:24.820 perspective very diplomatic and he was also asked if he thinks that the relationship will repair

00:24:30.660 itself and he said sure yeah and someone else commented on this feud actually back in 2020

00:24:37.180 Ron Howard the director he said that he had spoken to both of them when this was happening

00:24:43.560 on the set of this movie and he said that it was two incompatible working styles and said the

00:24:50.620 experience was painful for both men so something significant really happened between these two guys

00:24:58.540 yeah i find this view very interesting i don't know about you guys but i'm so curious to what

00:25:04.880 really happened here and now that henry winkler is being so open about it i'm like i think tom

00:25:11.040 Hanks should go out and say something as well, because the way I see it now, it looks like Tom

00:25:15.960 Hanks is the bad guy. You said something very wise in another interview I saw yesterday. I was

00:25:21.280 googling all interviews with you, and you said something about that you looked at stardom as

00:25:26.480 a mirage. It is so true. There is no such thing as stardom. There is a continuum of work, but if

00:25:36.020 If you start to think you're a celebrity, the reason that you are there in the first

00:25:42.960 place will disintegrate into powder.

00:25:47.760 Other people think you have power, you let them.

00:25:51.720 If you think you have power, people will immediately want to take it from you.

00:25:58.680 It is a very bad habit to get into.

00:26:01.140 But when you, I mean you were such a big star.

00:26:04.260 I was.

00:26:05.260 pretty young age.

00:26:06.260 I was, at 27.

00:26:07.260 How did you manage not to let that get to you?

00:26:09.580 You know what?

00:26:10.580 I figured that out. 1.00

00:26:11.580 I'm dyslexic, so all my life I thought I was stupid. 0.96

00:26:16.480 There is an emotional component to feeling bad about yourself. 0.90

00:26:21.640 For me, when all of that adulation came, I thought that I can't possibly be talking

00:26:27.820 about me.

00:26:30.000 That couldn't be me.

00:26:31.580 So it never, I never let it enter my body.

00:26:37.060 Anyways, talking about PR strategies here, this story is pretty interesting.

00:26:44.400 So John Malkovich, the actor, was supposed to go to Israel and have a performance in April of next year, April 2027.

00:26:53.020 Then the Jerusalem Post quoted him in the newspaper saying that John Malkovich had said this,

00:27:03.860 I am thrilled to return to Israel and I'm looking forward to meeting the warm Israeli audience once again,

00:27:11.180 to whom I feel strong closeness and solidarity.

00:27:15.400 And then John Malkovich was like, I never said that.

00:27:20.120 I never said those words.

00:27:21.960 and then this PR company comes out and say oh this is a human error according to Associated Press

00:27:32.580 a human error that someone made up a quote that he never said so of course like everyone else

00:27:40.840 John Malkovich is trying to stay as far away from controversy as possible and being dragged into

00:27:47.680 this conflict being forced to take sides it's something that most celebrities wants to stay

00:27:54.220 far far far away from and i understand why because every time i mention something about

00:28:00.480 this conflict here on my channel i get either side attacking me so i completely understand

00:28:06.880 why he reacted to this not only did they put words in his mouth but the words that they put

00:28:12.880 in his mouth solidarity made it seem like he was supporting one party in this conflict so what

00:28:22.160 John Malkovich did was that he cancelled his performance so now he had to take a political

00:28:27.960 stance for not taking a political stance and it came out with a statement saying that playwrights

00:28:35.180 authors and screenwriters are the only people allowed to put words in his in my mouth and even

00:28:41.080 they only get to do it for storytelling. So yeah very embarrassing for this PR company who made up

00:28:48.280 this quote. Can you believe it? So yeah this PR stunt obviously did not go as planned and I wonder

00:28:54.700 if they thought that they could just get away with it of making up something that he said that he

00:29:00.120 would think that that was okay. I mean that's so crazy to me. Anyways that's it for me today you

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - September 10, 2026

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