Fresh & Fit - December 08, 2023


Was Destiny's Open Marriage A Mistake?


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 8 minutes

Words per Minute

206.84068

Word Count

26,679

Sentence Count

2,535

Misogynist Sentences

354

Hate Speech Sentences

279


Summary

On this episode of the Fresh Fit Podcast, we have a special guest in the house, King Dre. We talk about how he got his start in the entertainment industry, his early days in the music industry, and what it takes to be a rapper. We also talk about what it was like growing up in the streets of LA and how he dealt with the negativity that came with it. We also discuss how he was kicked off TikTok because of his "trash" videos and how to deal with the hate that he received from the community. Lastly, we talk about his relationship with his ex-wife and how it affected his career as a rapper and what he did to make it to where he is today. We hope you enjoy this episode and don t forget to give us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts and other social media platforms! If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a review and tell a friend about what you think of the episode. We appreciate it! Peace, Love, Blessings, Cheers, & Cheers! - The Fresh Fit Crew. - EJ & The Crew. -Jonah & The FreshFit Crew -T.J. & the FreshFit Podcast. XOXO - DJ Khaled and the crew & the crew at Fresh Fit . . . and we are live! & we are going to be back with more content soon! ! Thank you for listening to this episode we appreciate it, we are so much more than you can tell us what you are listening to us! Love ya'll. . - Jonah & the team! Jonah and the team is back! XO - DJ Khale & the Crew! ( ) ( , , EJ and the Crew is back with all the good vibes! , and we will be back next week! and all the love & support you all will get back to the rest of the rest in the next episode. , we are back in the podcast! Thank ya'll! -A. - :D. & , R.B. & The crew! -JAY & the rest! -BRAY! -KD, And the crew is back!! -JUICY - - JAY & THE BOOTY!


Transcript

00:04:54.000 And we are live.
00:04:55.000 What's up, guys?
00:04:55.000 Welcome to Freshman Podcast, man.
00:04:56.000 We've got a special one for you guys.
00:04:57.000 We're here with King Dre.
00:04:57.000 Let's get into it!
00:04:58.000 Let's go!
00:05:48.000 And we are live.
00:05:49.000 What's up, guys?
00:05:49.000 Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast, man.
00:05:50.000 We are here with King Dre.
00:05:51.000 We got a special one for you guys.
00:05:53.000 Legendary.
00:05:53.000 Yeah, it's going to be a legendary one, man.
00:05:55.000 Matter of fact, we were having a discussion before the show.
00:05:57.000 It was so good!
00:05:58.000 And I was like, wait, hold on.
00:05:59.000 We got to turn the cameras on and actually let it flow and let you guys actually hear some of this stuff.
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00:06:32.000 And some equipment just came in, actually.
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00:06:41.000 On there, I post all kinds of stuff.
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00:07:02.000 So check me out over there on Unplugged Fidex on Twitter, and then Fresh CEO Network.
00:07:05.000 Today's the last day for First Date Blueprint.
00:07:09.000 Oh, shit, yeah.
00:07:09.000 Guys, in spirit of game, you know, the game's to be sold, not told.
00:07:13.000 Here you go.
00:07:14.000 To get that First Date lay, follow the blueprint, A to Z, with Zoom calls.
00:07:18.000 I think 10 Zoom calls back-to-back on how to get it done.
00:07:21.000 So go check it out.
00:07:23.000 And once again, guys, I'm doing vlogs again.
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00:07:27.000 Us in the studio.
00:07:28.000 Go check it out, man.
00:07:29.000 Pretty good vlogs.
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00:07:31.000 If you want to become a brotherhood, want to become better in life and be successful, hop into that, learn from others, and become good yourself.
00:07:38.000 Give all your eye value.
00:07:39.000 All right?
00:07:40.000 And we got a special guest in the house, man.
00:07:40.000 Bam.
00:07:43.000 OG in the space.
00:07:45.000 King Dre, man.
00:07:46.000 We've known him for a very long time.
00:07:49.000 Since like 2020, I would say.
00:07:51.000 Maybe 19.
00:07:51.000 Yeah, maybe even 19.
00:07:53.000 We should have had this interview a while ago.
00:07:56.000 I know me and you had been talking about bringing you on.
00:07:59.000 We went back and forth on Instagram and everything else like that.
00:08:01.000 You blew up on TikTok.
00:08:03.000 Congratulations.
00:08:04.000 You still got it?
00:08:05.000 Yeah, I still got it.
00:08:06.000 Damn, he didn't get kicked off!
00:08:07.000 He's lucky, bro.
00:08:08.000 Nah, nah, I still got it.
00:08:10.000 I stopped being so abrasive.
00:08:12.000 I still got the same message, but I was in their face with it.
00:08:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:16.000 You know, I was called the trash and all types of shit.
00:08:19.000 Back in the day, bro, we were the...
00:08:22.000 Dude, you just made one video about bad behavior, and that went viral, bro.
00:08:25.000 Two million?
00:08:26.000 Yeah, but then we got kicked off right away.
00:08:28.000 Dre was a lot smarter about it.
00:08:30.000 They suspended my page for a little bit.
00:08:32.000 I made a video saying, you know, if she say she on a period, She probably lying and shit.
00:08:40.000 You know how they took that.
00:08:41.000 They came for me heavy.
00:08:45.000 I just had to shut down shop for a little bit.
00:08:48.000 What are you up to now?
00:08:50.000 I still do the same thing.
00:08:51.000 What's your following on there now?
00:08:53.000 1.3 million.
00:08:55.000 But I had to...
00:08:58.000 I just...
00:08:59.000 I realize...
00:09:00.000 Once that mob come for you, you know, if they know you...
00:09:03.000 They call your mama job and all that type of shit.
00:09:04.000 Bro, it's crazy.
00:09:04.000 It's crazy.
00:09:05.000 So I'm like, damn.
00:09:06.000 And I got kids, but I got teenagers.
00:09:07.000 So it's like...
00:09:09.000 I'm going to have the same message, but I got to stop poking at them.
00:09:12.000 You know, you get into it and you start seeing the comments and you start feeling a certain type of way, so you start making videos on purpose to ruffle feathers and shit.
00:09:21.000 So I say, let me leave them alone.
00:09:23.000 The same message, but let me repackage it.
00:09:25.000 Also, I'm on their platform.
00:09:27.000 It ain't my house.
00:09:28.000 When you're in somebody's house, you got to play by.
00:09:29.000 That is very true.
00:09:30.000 Let me play by their rules.
00:09:32.000 I read the guidelines and say, okay, I'm going to put my message out, but I'm going to keep it within the realms if I want to keep the platform.
00:09:37.000 Yeah, I think you're like one of the few, That's still on there.
00:09:41.000 Yeah, one of the few guys on there that's telling guys how the game works on TikTok that hasn't been kicked off yet, bro.
00:09:46.000 Yeah, I just changed the word.
00:09:47.000 Congratulations on that.
00:09:48.000 Just changed the word.
00:09:49.000 Instead of saying, oh, these type of women trash.
00:09:52.000 Just say it in a different way.
00:09:53.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:09:54.000 Yeah.
00:09:55.000 That's a good point.
00:09:56.000 So, yeah, bro.
00:09:58.000 Obviously, we know who you are, but the audience might not.
00:10:00.000 Can you introduce yourself to the people, man, real quick?
00:10:01.000 King Dre, I call myself...
00:10:03.000 They call me Captain Saber, bro.
00:10:06.000 And basically, I just...
00:10:07.000 I try to save guys from the bullshit, man, and...
00:10:11.000 Society is weak right now, but that's because the man is weak.
00:10:15.000 And men have become weak through women.
00:10:17.000 You understand what I'm saying?
00:10:18.000 Heartbreak, divorce machine, not being able to get laid.
00:10:24.000 Men just become weak.
00:10:25.000 And so when you have a society of weak men, society is going to be bad for all of us.
00:10:30.000 Just look around you.
00:10:31.000 So my job is to help guys see the bullshit because a lot of guys don't really know what's going on.
00:10:39.000 A lot of guys are clueless to We're good to go.
00:11:06.000 We're good to go.
00:11:21.000 I just, I wanted to help guys be like, look more player, you know, because I'm not really was the internet type of person.
00:11:27.000 So, but I was like, I'm gonna come over here and I'm gonna try to find my crowd, like guys who are more player and I'm gonna help them be better.
00:11:33.000 But once I started to get into it, I started to get the message of like, man, you know, this is happening to me.
00:11:38.000 This is happening to me.
00:11:39.000 I'm like, what the fuck?
00:11:40.000 I'm thinking everybody's like me.
00:11:42.000 I'm thinking everybody that's got a little something in them, got a little player in their bones or something like that.
00:11:47.000 But what I realized is the world is full of simps.
00:11:52.000 Yeah.
00:11:53.000 It's crazy, isn't it?
00:11:54.000 So it kind of took a turn from, I got to try to help save these guys because it's, you know...
00:11:59.000 Take us back to young Dre.
00:12:01.000 What was he doing to get into game?
00:12:03.000 How did he become a master of the game himself?
00:12:06.000 It's crazy.
00:12:07.000 Coming up in that type of environment, that's just the thing to do.
00:12:12.000 Black men, we don't have shit from certain communities.
00:12:16.000 We don't really have shit.
00:12:17.000 Where'd you grow up?
00:12:17.000 I grew up in Tampa.
00:12:21.000 I lived here for a little bit, too.
00:12:23.000 But, you know, we don't really have shit, so it's either money or chicks.
00:12:26.000 And back then, you don't really have the access to the information to know that you can be anything else.
00:12:32.000 But, you know, basketball, football, a rapper or some shit like that.
00:12:35.000 And so, a lot of the times, we have to pride ourselves on how many bitches we can get and all that.
00:12:39.000 So that's what we did.
00:12:40.000 It was a thing to do.
00:12:41.000 You was lame if you wasn't fucking when you was in 14 or 15.
00:12:43.000 And just so the audience kind of understands, like, what decade did you, like, do most of your growing up?
00:12:47.000 Uh, in the 90s.
00:12:48.000 90s, okay.
00:12:49.000 90s and 2000s.
00:12:50.000 Yeah, 90s.
00:12:52.000 So, I lost my Virginia in like, 98 and 99 or something like that.
00:12:55.000 Goddamn!
00:12:55.000 So, yeah, I've been slaying them ever since.
00:12:57.000 Nah, some wisdom here, and I got some questions about that too, but sorry.
00:13:01.000 But, uh, you know, um, We had...
00:13:05.000 It was like you was lame if you wasn't getting chicks.
00:13:07.000 Like now you lame if you don't got, you know, whatever.
00:13:10.000 But back then, if you wasn't getting chicks, you was lame.
00:13:13.000 And so if you didn't want to get roasted, if you was still a virgin, you was just going...
00:13:16.000 So that's what we did.
00:13:17.000 You know, we would go to the mall and whoever get the most numbers, you know, we put $10 in a jar.
00:13:23.000 Whoever get the most numbers, we can, you know, do it like that.
00:13:25.000 But for me, how I started to like...
00:13:29.000 Wanted to get a little bit deeper into it because I was like average.
00:13:32.000 I was very average.
00:13:33.000 I still consider myself kind of average.
00:13:36.000 Except up here though, right?
00:13:38.000 Very smart.
00:13:40.000 So a lot of guys that went to school with me, you know, when we was teenagers, they was in the streets already.
00:13:44.000 They was selling drugs.
00:13:46.000 They was athletes and shit like that.
00:13:48.000 And so they were more, the girls were more like, wow, over them.
00:13:51.000 So I had to figure out another way.
00:13:52.000 And it was up here.
00:13:54.000 But this, where I had to leverage, my dad was like that.
00:13:57.000 My dad was one of them type of guys.
00:13:59.000 And so he was in prison.
00:14:01.000 Mm-hmm.
00:14:03.000 My dad was in prison and he wrote me one day.
00:14:07.000 Out of the blue, my dad had been gone for like 10 years.
00:14:10.000 He wrote me one day and he was like, hey, how you doing?
00:14:12.000 I'm like, fuck that.
00:14:13.000 I'm trying to get this chick talked to me.
00:14:15.000 And he started lacing me up.
00:14:17.000 And so I now had something to compete with.
00:14:21.000 Because again, in high school I wasn't the coolest kid.
00:14:23.000 I ain't dressed the best.
00:14:24.000 Still don't dress the best.
00:14:25.000 Still ain't the coolest motherfucker alive.
00:14:27.000 But I realized you have to get him up here.
00:14:30.000 And so That's what he taught me how to do when I was in high school, how to get him up here.
00:14:36.000 And once I started playing around with that, it was to the hills.
00:14:40.000 And you have a show, Captain Saver Bro show.
00:14:43.000 What's one thing you learned about men that their biggest issue is in the current data market?
00:14:48.000 It's a couple things.
00:14:49.000 The most common thing that I see is guys don't know that they rebound.
00:14:54.000 So a guy will get with a woman.
00:14:59.000 A guy would get with a woman and, you know, he'd go balls to the walls.
00:15:03.000 Like, he'd meet her.
00:15:04.000 She'd make him smile.
00:15:06.000 She'd put that box on him.
00:15:08.000 He'd go crazy.
00:15:09.000 And he'd go balls to the wall.
00:15:11.000 He'd invest it all.
00:15:12.000 And then three, four months later, she'd ghost him or she'd start causing problems.
00:15:16.000 The baby daddy came back or the ex came back.
00:15:18.000 So you got to give her some time.
00:15:19.000 So a lot of guys don't know that they're in their position.
00:15:21.000 Whenever you meet a woman, I don't give a fuck who she is, where she from, somebody somewhere fucked up.
00:15:28.000 Yeah.
00:15:29.000 Whenever you meet a woman, somebody's somewhere fucked up, so take your time.
00:15:32.000 If she not no virgin or some shit like that, somebody's somewhere fucked up, so you always catching a wave of somebody else.
00:15:39.000 And a lot of guys don't realize that.
00:15:42.000 And women know how to make it...
00:15:43.000 You only get a girl by taking her from someone else.
00:15:45.000 Period.
00:15:46.000 For the most part.
00:15:47.000 And a lot of guys don't realize that women are very skilled at making that shit feel real.
00:15:51.000 Like, they make it feel like...
00:15:53.000 They can make it feel like, shh.
00:15:55.000 And make you feel like you're the only thing living.
00:15:57.000 And a lot of guys who don't know about that or who're not aware of that, they go balls to the wall.
00:16:02.000 Five, six months later, she's sabotaging.
00:16:05.000 You know, she causing problems and all type of shit.
00:16:08.000 It's because she confused.
00:16:09.000 Not a baby daddy in her ear.
00:16:11.000 You know, the ex-boyfriend in her ear.
00:16:13.000 And, you know, when a bitch confused, they're going to cause you problems.
00:16:17.000 That's what you got to vet, man.
00:16:19.000 When she's confused, it's going to cause you problems, man.
00:16:22.000 You just think.
00:16:22.000 Just think.
00:16:24.000 Like you say, like I always say, women cannot serve two masters.
00:16:28.000 So here she is, she with you, but then her ex come back.
00:16:32.000 He a whole different man.
00:16:35.000 Doing his own different thing.
00:16:36.000 He got his own program.
00:16:37.000 And women typically follow, right?
00:16:39.000 And so she can't follow you and follow him at the same time.
00:16:41.000 And so naturally she's going to start causing problems.
00:16:43.000 So Drew, I have a question for you.
00:16:44.000 So let's say you're in that scenario where you find a girl.
00:16:48.000 She has an ex, but you gave her a massive imprint.
00:16:51.000 How do you kind of combat that imprint that's left on her?
00:16:55.000 I like to pride myself on bringing this shit to this space, but you got to make them do for you.
00:17:00.000 A lot of guys don't.
00:17:02.000 A lot of guys don't realize, a lot of guys think that you get a bitch, excuse me, you get a woman and, you know, you get a woman and, you know, you do for her, take her out, do this.
00:17:13.000 I learned it.
00:17:14.000 My dad taught me different than that.
00:17:15.000 Like, you don't, that's not what you do.
00:17:16.000 You let them do it for you.
00:17:18.000 Not let a woman take care of you because you're a man, but as far as, like, serve you, because that's when they feel most feminine.
00:17:23.000 I learned this in high school.
00:17:24.000 This is when they feel most feminine, when they taking care of you, when they caring for you, when they nurturing and shit like that.
00:17:29.000 And so, you just do this little by little, and the more she becomes invested in you, over time, and she's earning you, if your shit is on point, she left him for a reason.
00:17:40.000 He fucked up.
00:17:41.000 More than likely, he didn't learn.
00:17:43.000 And so...
00:17:45.000 You just look like the better catch.
00:17:47.000 And eventually they'll shut that shit out.
00:17:48.000 But if you do this, if you go balls to the wall prematurely, it's over for you.
00:17:53.000 Just like with a man, right?
00:17:57.000 Wherever our money going to, wherever our energy going to, that's why our heart follows that.
00:18:01.000 So we're into it.
00:18:02.000 It's the same with women.
00:18:03.000 And so a lot of guys make the mistake of getting with women and not...
00:18:07.000 Making them do shit.
00:18:08.000 It's funny.
00:18:09.000 Girls would be like, I'm coming over.
00:18:11.000 What do you need?
00:18:12.000 Nothing.
00:18:12.000 Oh, nothing.
00:18:13.000 What?
00:18:13.000 Just pull up.
00:18:14.000 Nah, bring wine.
00:18:15.000 Bring stuff for the house.
00:18:16.000 My dad taught me that.
00:18:17.000 My dad taught me that.
00:18:19.000 She always got to come bearing gifts.
00:18:21.000 Always come bearing gifts.
00:18:22.000 And so we should be young.
00:18:23.000 We should be like, man, you know, she come over, bring me a pack.
00:18:26.000 I used to smoke cigarettes back then.
00:18:28.000 Bring me a pack of cigarettes.
00:18:30.000 Bring me a pint of gin.
00:18:31.000 Bring me a pint of Hennessy.
00:18:32.000 Now think about this.
00:18:33.000 Back in, what, 2003?
00:18:36.000 You know, bitch got paid $200 a week.
00:18:38.000 She spent $100 of it on you.
00:18:40.000 She just gave you 50% of her network.
00:18:44.000 That's small in the grand scheme of things, but 50% of somebody's, what they earned that week to you, they feel is going to follow it.
00:18:50.000 Especially for a female.
00:18:51.000 For a female, right?
00:18:53.000 Especially for them.
00:18:53.000 And you just start small and shit.
00:18:55.000 You start small.
00:18:57.000 It's some dirt bags.
00:18:58.000 They're going to hear this in...
00:19:00.000 They're going to do the wrong thing with this shit.
00:19:01.000 But that's how you do that over time.
00:19:05.000 And eventually, if you stay player with it, and that guy, consistently over a long period of time, he won't even matter no more.
00:19:13.000 Damn.
00:19:14.000 You got to get her to invest, and I think that's something that guys mess up with.
00:19:20.000 So you mentioned earlier, I guess we might as well just hit the topic now.
00:19:24.000 You mentioned earlier that a woman can't serve two masters.
00:19:27.000 Obviously, we saw what went down with Destiny, right?
00:19:32.000 And I want to just preface this, because I talked about this on Twitter yesterday.
00:19:38.000 I like Destiny.
00:19:39.000 He's a good person.
00:19:40.000 I have a massive amount of respect for him.
00:19:41.000 Anyone that can come into contrarian spaces and have debates and articulate himself, even though we don't necessarily always agree on everything, I have a massive amount of respect for him.
00:19:49.000 He's a good guy.
00:19:51.000 I really have nothing bad to say about him.
00:19:54.000 This whole situation with his wife, you know, for everyone out there that's like, you know, rejoicing and laughing and saying, yeah, ha, ha, ha, blah, blah, blah.
00:20:02.000 Like, bro, that's some shitty behavior, bro.
00:20:04.000 Like, at the end of the day.
00:20:05.000 I think if anything, look at the situation for what it is.
00:20:08.000 Learn from it.
00:20:09.000 Obviously, I hope whatever is going on between him and his wife gets sorted out.
00:20:15.000 But this is something that I've kind of mentioned before already.
00:20:18.000 I've told Destiny this before, that I don't think open relationships ever work whenever a woman is open as well.
00:20:24.000 It only works when the man is open, but never when the woman is open.
00:20:26.000 And it comes back to what we were discussing earlier, and I've been saying this for years.
00:20:29.000 A woman can't serve two masters.
00:20:31.000 She really can't.
00:20:32.000 And whenever you open the door for her to exercise options or explore other men, at some point, you're opening the door for her to attach to someone else that might be able to have traits that you might not necessarily have.
00:20:44.000 Whereas as a man, we don't operate like that.
00:20:46.000 Your girl is your girl for a reason.
00:20:50.000 So, with that said, obviously I hope Destiny's okay.
00:20:53.000 I hope nothing bad is going on.
00:20:55.000 I hope him and his wife are able to reconcile this to some degree where it doesn't damage him from a financial perspective as much, especially since he invested a good amount of money into her with platforming her.
00:21:05.000 Obviously he's very successful financially.
00:21:08.000 Smart guy.
00:21:09.000 She's been able to build off her own little platform off of him.
00:21:12.000 Smart as well.
00:21:13.000 Yeah.
00:21:13.000 I hope he doesn't get financially torched for it.
00:21:17.000 But yeah, I mean, it's just sad what's going on here between her.
00:21:21.000 It's just like, dude, if you give him an inch, he'll take a mile, right?
00:21:26.000 And it's like, I looked at this and I was like, man, this chick, man, she's on some bullshit, blah, blah, blah, and this happened.
00:21:32.000 So, Destiny isn't a bad person, 100%.
00:21:34.000 Really cool guy.
00:21:35.000 I just think he made a choice where, you know, it was going to benefit him in the long term.
00:21:39.000 And as men, we make choices, you know?
00:21:41.000 Yeah.
00:21:41.000 It wasn't a perfect choice.
00:21:42.000 Maybe it was a bad choice, but ultimately...
00:21:44.000 Yeah.
00:21:44.000 I just hope nothing happens to him financially.
00:21:46.000 Yeah.
00:21:46.000 You know, he can recover.
00:21:47.000 Think about this, though.
00:21:48.000 If women lack security, right?
00:21:51.000 Women like security.
00:21:53.000 Boundaries.
00:21:54.000 Women, they talk this shit on Facebook and all this, Instagram, but women love boundaries.
00:21:59.000 Like, it makes them feel secure.
00:22:01.000 Just think about if you got a woman, right, and she look at you and say, oh, he'll let me do whatever.
00:22:05.000 Like, they think you don't care about them when you let them rip and run and run wild like that.
00:22:10.000 And so, when you...
00:22:13.000 That's a good point, bro.
00:22:14.000 You see what I'm saying?
00:22:14.000 They need the security.
00:22:17.000 And boundaries is a good way.
00:22:18.000 I ain't never really met no woman who was into me that bucked back at boundaries.
00:22:22.000 That's only when women using you as a placeholder and shit like that, they don't really like you.
00:22:26.000 Then they be like, oh, you controlling and shit.
00:22:28.000 But when a woman like you, she like to feel secure in those boundaries.
00:22:32.000 And when women like you, they'll play within those boundaries.
00:22:35.000 But if you let them run wild, they're going to run wild.
00:22:38.000 And they're going to think you don't care about them.
00:22:39.000 Yeah.
00:22:40.000 And if a woman think you don't care about her, if she think that you don't care about her, you're not going to get her all.
00:22:45.000 She's not going to put her all into you.
00:22:47.000 Can I mention as well, I don't know what it is, but whenever a girl's not from the U.S. and wants to come to America, I just find a hard time believing that it's actually genuine.
00:22:56.000 I mean, I don't know her that well.
00:22:58.000 We've talked her a couple times on different shows, but like, bro, when you have a green card, bro, she's seeing money green as well.
00:23:04.000 So you never know.
00:23:05.000 Oh, she's not from here?
00:23:06.000 Nah.
00:23:06.000 Nah.
00:23:07.000 She's not from here.
00:23:08.000 I will give it that she's from a first, I forget what country it is.
00:23:11.000 Someone in the chat's gonna put it.
00:23:12.000 It's a first world Western country.
00:23:14.000 Yeah.
00:23:14.000 That's like super liberal.
00:23:16.000 But again, you see a guy living in the US that you can kind of like, you know, talk to and, you know, chip down a little bit and make your own angle at him.
00:23:25.000 You're gonna go for it and then see where it goes.
00:23:27.000 And I think that's what happened here.
00:23:29.000 They gotta stop falling for this, oh, let's be open shit.
00:23:31.000 Cause women don't respect you if they fucking somebody else.
00:23:34.000 Yeah.
00:23:35.000 They gotta stop falling for that.
00:23:36.000 That shit crazy.
00:23:37.000 And I think as someone, Sweden?
00:23:39.000 Yeah, Sweden is where it's from.
00:23:40.000 And I think, you know, for all the guys out there, you know, to learn from this situation, if you got some money, you got some status, et cetera, like, you're the boss, man.
00:23:47.000 Like, put these women in their place.
00:23:49.000 Like, don't let them sit there and say, I want to be open, and you actually, like, no, because whenever you have a title, you have an image to protect, you got some status, you got some money, et cetera, like, You got something to lose.
00:24:02.000 And when women run around and do dumb shit, you can really deal some serious negative consequences for that.
00:24:06.000 It's not a good look for you.
00:24:07.000 Fuck up your whole bag.
00:24:08.000 Yeah.
00:24:08.000 We spoke earlier, and women can only do what you allow them to do to you.
00:24:12.000 So, for example, let's say you're a man of means, and you have status and success, and you have frame, you have boundaries that she's going to follow.
00:24:17.000 Versus the opposite, you have money status but no frame, she'll do whatever.
00:24:21.000 Yeah, you got to protect that shit.
00:24:22.000 But you can't do a lot of it, though.
00:24:22.000 Yeah.
00:24:23.000 I would say, for all the guys out there, man, you guys are successfully making some money, etc.
00:24:27.000 You gotta be even more clamped down on her not doing some bullshit.
00:24:31.000 You know what I mean?
00:24:32.000 And I've always said, having money and status, and this is a perfect example of that, having money and status isn't gonna get girls to be on your program if you don't got frame.
00:24:41.000 You gotta have frame, too.
00:24:42.000 Yeah, you gotta have that.
00:24:43.000 That's huge.
00:24:44.000 The money and status will just let her tolerate you a little bit longer.
00:24:46.000 Yeah.
00:24:46.000 But it's not necessarily gonna get her in line.
00:24:48.000 You gotta have that in your head, and then you're able to implement it.
00:24:51.000 The money and status helps you with letting her know that you ain't gonna get this again, dummy.
00:24:55.000 But at the end of the day, you still have to have the frame.
00:24:58.000 Whether you make 50k a year, or 500k a year, or 5 million a year, you still have to have that frame regardless.
00:25:02.000 So we spoke earlier as well, and you mentioned back in the day, you didn't need as much to get women because there was less access.
00:25:09.000 Yeah, let's talk about that real quick, Dre.
00:25:12.000 You know, you're a little bit older, right?
00:25:13.000 We get some wisdom from you.
00:25:15.000 You were, you know, picking up girls before this crazy social media, you know, online dating era age.
00:25:20.000 Before Instagram, Facebook.
00:25:20.000 You had to go out and talk to women.
00:25:22.000 Yeah, what was it like back then, man?
00:25:23.000 It was easier, but it was...
00:25:28.000 Let me put it like this.
00:25:29.000 Nowadays, like I said earlier, if you can get yourself up to barely passing, you can get laid easy because they throwing pussy away like nobody's business.
00:25:37.000 They don't care about being called no whore.
00:25:39.000 They call themselves hoes.
00:25:41.000 They don't care.
00:25:42.000 They throwing pussy away like nothing.
00:25:44.000 So it's changing that sense.
00:25:46.000 So if you can get yourself...
00:25:49.000 If you can get yourself to a certain point, it's easier.
00:25:51.000 However, women are a lot less tolerable to mistakes and bullshit.
00:25:55.000 Prime example, I get a lot of guys who, they'll go on a first date with a woman.
00:25:59.000 Now, women come hot and ready nowadays.
00:26:01.000 And so they'll go on a first date with a woman, and the guy don't close, right?
00:26:05.000 The guy don't close.
00:26:06.000 So the spark may be there, the chemistry may be there.
00:26:09.000 You know, this chick done spent five hours getting ready, putting on makeup, shaving and shit, and matching bra and panties.
00:26:15.000 Think about it.
00:26:15.000 Every time you had sex with a girl for the first time, the bra and panties match, right?
00:26:18.000 Typically.
00:26:19.000 It's not a coincidence.
00:26:20.000 So they take time to do this shit.
00:26:21.000 So when they do this shit, come on a date, they like you, the vibe is good, and you don't close, they take it as rejection.
00:26:26.000 Yeah.
00:26:27.000 Now, back in the day, she would have chased you.
00:26:29.000 Yeah.
00:26:30.000 She would have chased you and called you.
00:26:31.000 Nowadays, it's 50 other dudes.
00:26:33.000 I'm going to just find somebody who can handle my business.
00:26:35.000 So they're not as tolerable to a lot of the mistakes guys are making.
00:26:39.000 That's your point.
00:26:40.000 Just that's your point as well.
00:26:42.000 Whenever you leave that date without closing...
00:26:44.000 Makes a phone call, hits somebody else, and then he smashes.
00:26:47.000 And then he smashes.
00:26:47.000 Because it's always somebody else.
00:26:49.000 So you don't do it.
00:26:50.000 They're going to call King Dre or call Fresh.
00:26:52.000 Fresh going to come pick him up in a Lamborghini and it's over.
00:26:55.000 Yes, sir!
00:26:56.000 It's over with.
00:26:57.000 So I'm not saying that, you know, be a pussyhound or nothing like that, but that's just some of the differences back in the days.
00:27:02.000 Also, like...
00:27:05.000 Back then, like, you had to, like, almost lie.
00:27:09.000 I don't want to say lie, but you had to kind of, like...
00:27:11.000 Women wanted you to be, like, boyfriend and shit, so we had, like, five girlfriends and shit.
00:27:15.000 You had to really sell the dream.
00:27:16.000 The rotation shit was like you had to do that.
00:27:18.000 If you wanted to be fucking with different chicks and shit...
00:27:21.000 And this chick and this, you had to date them and be they boy.
00:27:24.000 You don't really have to go on dates, but like...
00:27:25.000 Yeah.
00:27:26.000 You had to give boyfriend energy.
00:27:27.000 You had to give boyfriend energy back then.
00:27:29.000 We could blame all those R&B songs.
00:27:30.000 Another thing, too, is like, back then, they didn't really require dates like that.
00:27:35.000 Like, I didn't go on my first date until I was like 25.
00:27:38.000 Like, when I went and paid for it, I was like, I was like 25 when I went on my first date and we was smashing them way before then.
00:27:43.000 Like a chick would be cool with you pulling up with some hot wings and sitting in the car on lunch break for 30 minutes and just chopping it up.
00:27:49.000 Whatever they do.
00:27:52.000 But nowadays with social media, this whole Women, you know, they hive-minded, so they want what everybody else got.
00:28:00.000 Oh, well, they ain't going to Cheesecake Factory.
00:28:02.000 They ain't selling for Cheesecake Factory.
00:28:03.000 I'm not selling for it.
00:28:04.000 Oh, yeah.
00:28:04.000 It's shit like that.
00:28:05.000 Yeah, you're right.
00:28:06.000 Now, it's just a lot of bullshit now, but it was a lot easier back then as far as, like, dealing with women, but...
00:28:14.000 To get laid, it's easy to get laid now.
00:28:16.000 I think nowadays, with the advent of social media, Instagram, also as well TikTok, there's so much out there, for example, of what can be done for them.
00:28:23.000 The grass is green on the other side.
00:28:25.000 So they see that and say, yo, I can get this tool as well.
00:28:27.000 Give me that as well.
00:28:28.000 You know, Dre, I want to ask you this, because this is something that I've noticed in ridiculous abundance, which actually really worries me.
00:28:35.000 And I want to see if you've kind of observed the same thing.
00:28:39.000 I've noticed a general increase with discontent for men.
00:28:46.000 Like, just general lack of respect for men in general.
00:28:49.000 Oh, yeah.
00:28:49.000 Like, in 2020...
00:28:51.000 Since the explosion of social media, I've just seen the respect for men go down.
00:28:56.000 Go all the way down.
00:28:56.000 Like...
00:28:57.000 I remember girls would say, oh, he's an electrician, okay, he's gonna do well.
00:29:02.000 Now it's like if you have a blue collar job, women don't respect that shit no more.
00:29:06.000 If you got a factory job, oh, he's just a factory nigga.
00:29:09.000 They genuinely think that most men are losers, not that attractive, most guys are invisible to them.
00:29:16.000 There's just this huge lack of respect for men, bro.
00:29:19.000 You know where that come from?
00:29:21.000 Whores.
00:29:22.000 Think about it, right?
00:29:24.000 When you have a disdain for something, it's because you can't be successful with it.
00:29:28.000 Like, you're taking L's.
00:29:30.000 And typically, when women take...
00:29:31.000 It's easy for women to get sex.
00:29:32.000 They just...
00:29:33.000 That's...
00:29:33.000 When you hear chicks talk like that, they're more than likely hoes.
00:29:36.000 That's getting fucked on and fucked on and fucked on and fucked on and fucked on.
00:29:39.000 And so they develop this disdain.
00:29:41.000 Yeah.
00:29:41.000 You see what I'm saying?
00:29:42.000 Good point.
00:29:43.000 It's funny because recently, Ruby Rose posted a guy, which is her number one spender, spending on her, all the text messages.
00:29:50.000 And back in the day, women would post, I'm getting married, I'm engaged.
00:29:54.000 Now they're just posting all the simps that are feeding them money.
00:29:57.000 So it changed from respect to men.
00:29:59.000 Back in the day, getting married.
00:30:00.000 It's embarrassing.
00:30:01.000 It's almost like a...
00:30:03.000 Like I said, it's like a disdain.
00:30:05.000 Like when you can't be successful, now when a man can't be successful with women, his success isn't because he can't get laid or get a relationship.
00:30:13.000 It's because, I mean, his success is, his disdain comes from him not being able to get laid or get a relationship.
00:30:20.000 A woman's ails come from them not being able to Get a guy to like them past sex.
00:30:26.000 So when you see women have that disdain, that's pretty much always where it come from.
00:30:30.000 You ain't never heard no virgin say that.
00:30:32.000 You ain't never heard no woman who's been treated well by her father or by her man ever say no shit like that.
00:30:38.000 In fact, you see, there's another side of social media where women be saying, look, I need my man.
00:30:43.000 I don't know what the fuck y'all talking about.
00:30:45.000 But if you look in the background, you got a solid man that's taking care of her.
00:30:48.000 Whenever you see a bitch say something, a woman say something like that, It's just wild because it's like there's no there's like disregard like there's no they don't even give a shit about like looking crazy or whatever like they'll just get on TikTok and talk about how oh this guy ghosted me fuck man or just like the vitriol and the hate like women are just open misandrous and nobody bats an eye bro it's completely and socially acceptable to shit on men not respect men insult men and no one says shit.
00:31:17.000 So there's an algo boost on TikTok where if you post Hateful men topics, it boosts you in the algorithm, which is crazy, by the way, but it's true.
00:31:26.000 I don't, you know, I don't, I believe that.
00:31:28.000 Yeah.
00:31:29.000 I believe that.
00:31:29.000 Because I'll tell you this, they get rid of niggas like us.
00:31:32.000 Like, if we fight back against the bullshit, like, yo, like, you know, fight back against the bullshit, like, yo, these are the women that you want to stay away from, you know, you identify these 304s, etc.
00:31:41.000 Misogyny, boom.
00:31:42.000 Like, there's a whole, um, like...
00:31:45.000 TikTok has a blacklist.
00:31:46.000 They made misogyny a big one now where you get banned immediately.
00:31:50.000 But I don't see anything in there about misandry.
00:31:52.000 You write through the terms and guidelines.
00:31:53.000 Was there anything about misandry?
00:31:54.000 Nah, you can say whatever you want to say about a man.
00:31:58.000 It got so bad.
00:31:59.000 In my title, I don't put women.
00:32:02.000 I put the emoji of a woman.
00:32:04.000 Smart, actually.
00:32:06.000 I don't put, oh, women, do this.
00:32:08.000 I put, if emoji, do this, then it means this.
00:32:12.000 It's bad like that.
00:32:14.000 Yeah.
00:32:14.000 It's starting to get, like, crazy, bro.
00:32:17.000 He's playing the game.
00:32:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:19.000 You gotta play the game.
00:32:20.000 You in their house, you gotta play by their rules.
00:32:21.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:32:22.000 TikTok is the worst.
00:32:23.000 Yeah, I got some of these chats real fast.
00:32:25.000 Let's see here, because I know y'all probably got a lot to say.
00:32:27.000 Let's see.
00:32:28.000 I'll get my glasses here.
00:32:29.000 Y'all chat.
00:32:31.000 That's the craziest shit.
00:32:32.000 Conqueror says, Ro Tomasi is on the Sin and Sinners channel discussing the end of the Red Pill and the beginning of Marquette-ism.
00:32:39.000 Okay?
00:32:40.000 Damien says, Not long ago, you made fun of Tim Pool for his take on women.
00:32:44.000 Well, Temple's always on time with his live shows, has three times the audience that you have, and more high-profile guests.
00:32:50.000 How about you get your shit in order for all of you?
00:32:52.000 L. L for all of you.
00:32:54.000 What does that have to do with...
00:32:56.000 What?
00:32:59.000 Tim Cass doesn't talk about what we talk about, bro.
00:33:01.000 It's two different topics on actual live shows, bro.
00:33:04.000 Tim is a news channel, bro.
00:33:05.000 Tim is straight up a news channel, dude.
00:33:09.000 What are you trying to compare?
00:33:10.000 Of course people are going to want to watch that because it's a news channel.
00:33:13.000 So you could bring in a wider audience.
00:33:15.000 And also, our content pushes people away.
00:33:17.000 So it's not the same thing, bro.
00:33:19.000 Come on, man.
00:33:20.000 Sticker coming in here just to talk shit?
00:33:22.000 Venom.
00:33:23.000 Oh, man.
00:33:24.000 Destiny about to dye his hair red after this.
00:33:27.000 Okay, I see what you did there.
00:33:30.000 He's fine, man.
00:33:30.000 He's fine.
00:33:31.000 What else we got here?
00:33:32.000 Meeksaw's homie says, I knew this day was going to come for Destiny.
00:33:34.000 I wouldn't be surprised if now he becomes your super red pill.
00:33:38.000 I wish no man any bad, and I actually feel bad for him after I tried to warn him.
00:33:42.000 Keep doing what you do, boys.
00:33:44.000 You haven't been wrong yet.
00:33:45.000 Yeah, man.
00:33:46.000 And that's why I'm keeping her respectful, because he's a good guy.
00:33:49.000 You don't kick him while he's down.
00:33:50.000 Yeah, and I'm not going to kick him while he's down.
00:33:54.000 And meeting Molina, meeting him, I have an idea.
00:34:00.000 I kind of saw this coming.
00:34:01.000 I don't know, bro.
00:34:03.000 I mean...
00:34:05.000 I always thought Molina was on some bullshit if I'm going to be a thousand with y'all.
00:34:09.000 We're all men here.
00:34:10.000 We made mistakes.
00:34:11.000 That was perfect.
00:34:12.000 However, we did warn him beforehand and we're just singing in real time.
00:34:16.000 But to be honest, bro, we made mistakes too, bro.
00:34:18.000 No one's here.
00:34:18.000 It's perfect.
00:34:19.000 And the thing is, man, women be on some...
00:34:21.000 There's girls out there, man, that are looking for a come-up, bro.
00:34:24.000 And she always gave me that vibe like, yo, this chick is here for a come-up, man.
00:34:27.000 You know what I mean?
00:34:28.000 He's got a huge audience.
00:34:30.000 He's well-spoken, articulate, etc.
00:34:36.000 I guess his Twitter name is Omni Liberal, right?
00:34:39.000 He's somewhat liberal, right?
00:34:40.000 So it's like, for her, it's like, oh, this is perfect.
00:34:42.000 You know what I mean?
00:34:43.000 Do you think that she was out of his league?
00:34:47.000 What do you think?
00:34:48.000 In terms of, for example, looks-wise and like, you know...
00:34:51.000 No, I think he was out of her league.
00:34:54.000 I think she was punching up, personally.
00:34:57.000 You know what I mean?
00:34:58.000 Because, you know, obviously people will talk shit, oh, Destiny doesn't go to the gym and he's not tall, blah, blah, blah.
00:35:04.000 But, I mean, yo, status makes up for everything.
00:35:06.000 I hate to say it, but I've always said it, me and you've had these discussions, if you had to pick one amplifier just to be attractive to women, it would be status, 100%.
00:35:13.000 These reggaeton niggas be damn near bisexual, but they be getting more bitches than all of us.
00:35:18.000 I thought that was bullshit until I blew up.
00:35:27.000 That status shit don't mean nothing until I started to get that type of status.
00:35:33.000 It's a whole nother ballgame.
00:35:35.000 It's a whole nother ballgame.
00:35:36.000 Bro, shit crazy.
00:35:37.000 You know what I knew status was it?
00:35:38.000 When Bad Bunny basically came out and said, oh, I'm bisexual and he still gets bitches.
00:35:42.000 That's what I knew.
00:35:42.000 I was like, bro, you literally have like a death sentence when it comes to any regular nigga, right?
00:35:47.000 Yeah.
00:35:47.000 But you're still pulling chicks and you're getting baddies too?
00:35:50.000 That's what I knew.
00:35:51.000 Yo, status is the main thing when it comes to getting girls.
00:35:54.000 Getting them.
00:35:55.000 Not holding them, but just getting them.
00:35:57.000 Just getting them.
00:35:58.000 Just getting them.
00:35:58.000 I saw in real time, I'm outside at events, at clubs, the guys that got the tables, the guys that were in VIP, the guys that were up there on these elevated platforms, girls would be like, wow, who is that?
00:36:09.000 I need to be there.
00:36:10.000 I'm like, damn!
00:36:11.000 He's a nobody, but with status of looking like he's somebody on this platform, oh, let me go over there to fuck him.
00:36:16.000 And it's pretty crazy because nowadays, back in the day, it was only game.
00:36:20.000 But with status and game, you're a killer, bro.
00:36:22.000 Yeah.
00:36:22.000 I mean, call me bias, but yeah, I genuinely think he was way out of her league.
00:36:26.000 I think she's lucky that he even committed to her, in my opinion.
00:36:31.000 If you don't got the game part behind it, though, you just a sucker.
00:36:34.000 A chick just gonna use you.
00:36:35.000 You got the money, a chick gonna use you.
00:36:38.000 You got the status, she gonna use you.
00:36:39.000 Look at all these streamer guys, these nerd streamer guys.
00:36:42.000 Yeah, bro.
00:36:43.000 It's sad and sickening to see what's going on with them.
00:36:46.000 They're getting these girlfriends and blowing them up.
00:36:49.000 Me and you are on the same page with that shit.
00:36:52.000 Me and you both hate, because that's why you started your whole joint.
00:36:54.000 We hate seeing dudes get finessed by women, bro.
00:36:56.000 I hate it.
00:36:57.000 I hate it.
00:36:58.000 I just...
00:37:01.000 I mean, play on if you're going to play, chick.
00:37:04.000 Do your thing.
00:37:04.000 But I don't like the after effect of it.
00:37:06.000 Like, I don't like the pain that it causes men.
00:37:08.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:37:09.000 Because that pain is widespread.
00:37:10.000 Like, we all have to deal with that pain as a society.
00:37:13.000 That's the part I don't like about it.
00:37:15.000 Yeah.
00:37:15.000 I've always been like, if you're a duck, then, you know, especially if somebody tell you better and you don't listen, then get, you know, get plucked like a duck.
00:37:23.000 But I just, the pain that come with that and just seeing it, it's just like...
00:37:29.000 It sucks, bro.
00:37:30.000 It's almost like how an older 40-year-old preying on a gullible 15-year-old chick.
00:37:36.000 It's the same thing to me.
00:37:38.000 Here you just have this kid, don't know any better, got a whole lot of money, got a whole lot of platform, and you bring your fat ass and just take advantage of him.
00:37:47.000 Make him feel all these good things.
00:37:49.000 Make him feel loved.
00:37:50.000 Make him feel like he the only man.
00:37:52.000 I mean, we brought Neon here, I remember.
00:37:56.000 And I don't know if you saw that, but he's with that chick.
00:38:00.000 Who's like some OnlyFans chick.
00:38:02.000 And it's funny because like a couple days before, Sneeko had put her on a lie detector.
00:38:06.000 Are you with Neon for his clout only?
00:38:09.000 And she was like, no.
00:38:10.000 And the fucking thing said she was lying, which is obviously...
00:38:13.000 Clearly.
00:38:13.000 You know, the guy's 18-year-old, 19-year-old virgin, right?
00:38:16.000 Skinny, etc.
00:38:17.000 Still, you know, getting this shit together.
00:38:19.000 This girl's like 20, 21.
00:38:21.000 Fucking, you know, OF model.
00:38:23.000 She obviously has some sexual experience.
00:38:24.000 She's been with dudes before.
00:38:26.000 She's at her peak.
00:38:27.000 You know what I mean?
00:38:28.000 He's figuring out if he's at his peak.
00:38:30.000 And it's like, whenever I see a drastic difference in knowledge, not just sexual market value, but knowledge of their sexual market value, that's when girls take advantage.
00:38:38.000 Whenever there's a disparity and she's more aware than you are, it's a wrap, man.
00:38:41.000 And that's why I tell guys, yo, you gotta get 50 lay count.
00:38:43.000 Oh, what the fuck, nigga?
00:38:45.000 What are you talking about?
00:38:46.000 There's too many bodies, blah, blah.
00:38:47.000 Bro, these girls will rack that shit up in a semester, in college.
00:38:50.000 You have to be experienced.
00:38:51.000 It's like, how you gonna...
00:38:55.000 You know, people do this religious shit, but how do you know how to deal with a woman?
00:39:00.000 Like, okay, let's say you get this long-term marriage, right?
00:39:02.000 You get this woman and y'all gonna be together forever.
00:39:04.000 If anybody's ever been in a long-term relationship, it's not cakewalk.
00:39:08.000 It's actually easy to be out here playing the field, juggling women.
00:39:12.000 But to have one woman you committed to, it's a whole different ballgame.
00:39:14.000 Because what happens when she tells you, I don't feel like it tonight?
00:39:17.000 And that happens for two weeks.
00:39:18.000 What you gonna do?
00:39:19.000 Do you even know what to do about that?
00:39:21.000 Do you know what to do when she starts, she get in a little phase of where she bucking up at you and she talking a little slick to you?
00:39:27.000 It's easy to say, oh, we're just going to leave her, but you're 10 years in, you're 7 years in, you're invested.
00:39:32.000 What you going to do about that?
00:39:33.000 So if you don't know how to navigate women, you're going to lose, especially today.
00:39:37.000 Because we get, and I'm sure you get this shit a lot too, criticisms from these religious people.
00:39:37.000 What's your thoughts?
00:39:44.000 You know, oh, bro, you'd be a good Christian man and one woman or, you know, Islam or Judaism, whatever, any of these religions that people practice, you know, they think that the faith is going to save them or save or make the woman like a better woman.
00:39:59.000 What's your thoughts on that?
00:39:59.000 Nah.
00:40:00.000 You play the game or the game going to play you.
00:40:01.000 Like, there's rules to this shit.
00:40:03.000 There's rules to human nature.
00:40:04.000 You have to deal with it and follow the rules.
00:40:08.000 God don't save you from breaking the rules.
00:40:11.000 And for the religious guys that want to bring up religion, God ain't going to save you from breaking the rules, right?
00:40:16.000 Whether it's dealing with life or dealing with elements or dealing with people.
00:40:20.000 If a baby, right?
00:40:21.000 Let's say a little baby ran out in the streets.
00:40:25.000 Is there not a God now?
00:40:27.000 Right?
00:40:28.000 God is not going to save you from breaking the rules, so you're still going to have to play by the rules.
00:40:32.000 You're still going to have to be a man.
00:40:34.000 You're still going to have to have respect.
00:40:36.000 You're still going to have to stand up for yourself.
00:40:37.000 You're still going to have to have game.
00:40:38.000 You're still going to have to know how to deal with women.
00:40:40.000 Period.
00:40:41.000 Whether you believe in God or not.
00:40:42.000 Or don't.
00:40:43.000 What would you say is the biggest mistake that guys make?
00:40:46.000 Because I know you've done hundreds, maybe thousands of consultations at this point with guys.
00:40:51.000 What is the biggest mistake that married guys make?
00:40:54.000 Um...
00:40:56.000 Or guys in a committed relationship where they're maybe cohabitating or something?
00:41:00.000 Number one, and I know this is a lot of the times the Red Pill community don't agree with this, is being something that you're not.
00:41:06.000 Okay.
00:41:06.000 From the gate.
00:41:07.000 You know, they say, oh, be yourself is bullshit.
00:41:10.000 I think you should be the best version of yourself.
00:41:11.000 But what happens is a lot of guys get into situations and they fake something that they're not.
00:41:16.000 And then the woman like what they pretend to be.
00:41:19.000 It's hard to sustain yourself over the long term.
00:41:21.000 Yeah.
00:41:22.000 Like Jay-Z said, it's only so long fake thugs can pretend, right?
00:41:24.000 And so when...
00:41:25.000 A lot of times you'll see guys get with these women and the real them come out.
00:41:31.000 And the woman like, what the fuck?
00:41:33.000 And so the problems start.
00:41:35.000 That's one.
00:41:35.000 Another thing is, again, not making women earn their keep, right?
00:41:40.000 You know, they don't make women earn their keep.
00:41:42.000 So you have a lot of guys who all the bitch got to do is be pretty and cook and clean and suck and fuck, right?
00:41:48.000 That's not enough.
00:41:50.000 Like, that don't equal the amount of work you put in.
00:41:52.000 Like, that's not an even swindle.
00:41:53.000 If all the woman got to do is look pretty and fuck and cook and shit, you got to go out, kill the food, bring the food back, work, deal with all this shit.
00:42:03.000 That's not enough to deal with that.
00:42:04.000 So a lot of guys don't require much of their women.
00:42:07.000 So 10 years later, when it's time to leave...
00:42:10.000 Yeah.
00:42:11.000 Right?
00:42:11.000 It's like, oh, well, she took everything for me and I gave so much, I gave so much.
00:42:16.000 Me, I look at it like this.
00:42:17.000 Anytime a bitch leaves me, she earns her keep anyway.
00:42:20.000 I ain't even mad because I got what I needed out of her.
00:42:22.000 Right.
00:42:22.000 You see what I'm saying?
00:42:23.000 A lot of guys don't do that and it'd be easier for the woman to walk away.
00:42:26.000 It's easy for a woman to walk away where she didn't help you build and not necessarily get the money with you, but...
00:42:32.000 Wherever she don't have a stake at, wherever she don't have real equity at, it's easier for her to walk away.
00:42:37.000 It's easier after 15 years, she can wake up and be like, I'm bored now.
00:42:40.000 Yeah.
00:42:40.000 But if a bitch...
00:42:41.000 Now you're a French friend, baby.
00:42:43.000 You can say what you want to say.
00:42:44.000 This ain't TikTok, man.
00:42:45.000 Let's fucking go, bro.
00:42:48.000 If a woman doesn't help you, if a woman don't have no stake, like I said, it's just easier for her to, you know, but if she's been there with you, building one step, you know, brick by brick, every step of the way, and just because you have yourself together, don't make, don't render a woman useless.
00:43:05.000 There's always something for a woman to do.
00:43:06.000 So, you know, it's harder for her to wake up and be like, you know what, I'm bored here, you know, I want something new.
00:43:16.000 I want something else.
00:43:17.000 Because she don't have equity in it.
00:43:18.000 She don't have stakes.
00:43:19.000 She don't feel like a team player.
00:43:20.000 A lot of guys make their mistake.
00:43:21.000 A lot of guys.
00:43:22.000 And so when the woman leaves, they feel like they got the short end of the stick.
00:43:27.000 It's like, oh, she got everything.
00:43:29.000 I gave so much.
00:43:32.000 It's just, you gotta make them earn their kid.
00:43:35.000 So having a trophy wife at home is the worst thing you guys can do, man, contrary to popular belief.
00:43:41.000 It is.
00:43:42.000 But look at all the guys and the celebrities that had the trophy wives.
00:43:45.000 They always leave and always take all their shit.
00:43:47.000 Yeah.
00:43:48.000 Always.
00:43:48.000 Versus you look at guys like Snoop Dogg or E-40 or Ice Cube.
00:43:54.000 They've been down with them, helping them every step of the way for the last 30, 40 years.
00:43:59.000 And they're still there.
00:44:00.000 And they're still there.
00:44:01.000 Still there.
00:44:01.000 Yeah, I think the key too is like, I mean not to make it sound this kind of could be evil and vindictive, but like...
00:44:08.000 You gotta make sure that she's still...
00:44:09.000 You better have her working until her sexual market value prime is gone, bro.
00:44:13.000 If you're gonna be on that type of shit.
00:44:14.000 And I hate to say that.
00:44:15.000 Because what they found is...
00:44:17.000 I forget what fucking study it was or whatever.
00:44:20.000 But they found that women are far more likely...
00:44:22.000 Me and Rollo were talking about this.
00:44:24.000 I'll find it.
00:44:25.000 Women are far more likely to divorce...
00:44:28.000 If they feel as though there's still options in the dating market for them to get back out there for.
00:44:33.000 You have to be...
00:44:35.000 It's just like in marketing.
00:44:37.000 You have to be the guy.
00:44:38.000 You have to make yourself the one.
00:44:41.000 That's not to say that there's not going to be it because it's somebody always better than you.
00:44:45.000 But you have to position yourself and you have to engineer your situation so when she look up...
00:44:52.000 There is nobody else.
00:44:53.000 You have to be that much of a value to her life, and she has to be that invested into not only you, but y'all's situation.
00:44:59.000 And that's just some game.
00:45:01.000 A lot of guys make their situation about just me and the woman in love.
00:45:06.000 Players don't do that.
00:45:07.000 We make it about it's bigger than us.
00:45:09.000 This is our thing.
00:45:10.000 It's not just about me and you.
00:45:12.000 So you have to kind of paint this like this is our world type of thing.
00:45:16.000 Not just, oh, I'm in love with you so much, baby.
00:45:19.000 It's just me and you.
00:45:22.000 Almost...
00:45:23.000 How do you say this?
00:45:24.000 Like an empire.
00:45:26.000 Yeah, but what would they call this shit?
00:45:28.000 Almost like romanticized...
00:45:33.000 Your thing.
00:45:34.000 She has to be invested into the thing.
00:45:36.000 Not just you, but the thing.
00:45:37.000 Like, where are we going?
00:45:38.000 The vision.
00:45:39.000 She has to be invested into that.
00:45:41.000 The future.
00:45:41.000 You see what I'm saying?
00:45:42.000 Most guys, they make it about...
00:45:43.000 Seller a dream, my friend.
00:45:44.000 Seller a dream.
00:45:46.000 They make it about just, you know, me and you and soul and love.
00:45:50.000 The shit get way bigger than that.
00:45:52.000 The game get way deeper than that.
00:45:53.000 I think for the audience, so that they can kind of put a picture to this, you guys, after the show's done, go ahead and listen to Justin Timberlake, My Love.
00:46:01.000 In the song, you know...
00:46:03.000 I can see us holding hands, walking on the beach, our toes in the sand, you know, all this shit, right?
00:46:07.000 See us sitting on the countryside, you know, blah, blah, blah.
00:46:10.000 And what he's doing in that song, right, it's hilarious because we all know Justin Blake's a player.
00:46:14.000 But he's selling a dream.
00:46:16.000 So on one end, to the untrained eye, it's like, oh, this is a simp tale.
00:46:19.000 But the reality is what he's really doing is he's giving the girl a dream of a future, of commitment, of being able to do certain things together, right?
00:46:28.000 What life could be.
00:46:29.000 This is...
00:46:31.000 I mean, if you look at it in the sense of, for example, movies and cartoons, when they were younger, they saw Disney movies, they saw movies of romantic stuff as the future of what they could have.
00:46:42.000 So you as the man now, give her that vision, I'm going to give you this lifestyle.
00:46:46.000 I'm that guy to be with.
00:46:48.000 They're putting the lyrics in this chat now.
00:46:52.000 Wouldn't it be a lifestyle, but a lot of guys don't, you know, and that's just, that's something that more advanced guys do.
00:46:57.000 They kind of make it more, like, she have to be more than committed to just me.
00:47:02.000 You have to be committed to this thing that we got going on.
00:47:04.000 This vision.
00:47:05.000 Help me build this empire, girl.
00:47:07.000 When you say shit like that and they get really excited.
00:47:08.000 They get invested into it.
00:47:10.000 That's what they're here to do anyway.
00:47:12.000 It appeals to their nature.
00:47:13.000 But you gotta have something going on.
00:47:15.000 You can't be no dusty dude smoking weed all day playing the game talking about let's build, let's build, let's build.
00:47:24.000 You can get away with that for maybe a week, a month, two months, but bro, it ain't gonna last forever.
00:47:31.000 They ain't gonna stay around, especially nowadays.
00:47:32.000 They not gonna sit around and watch you lollygagging.
00:47:35.000 Would you say, because you said women tolerate less nowadays, would you say the internet is a direct influence on why women tolerate far less?
00:47:42.000 The 100% influence of why they tolerate less.
00:47:45.000 Yeah.
00:47:46.000 It's no other reason.
00:47:48.000 It's not that they've evolved to be these, you know, bigger and better women and shit like that.
00:47:52.000 No, it's just you have memes and accounts and shit, just like men are now starting to not tolerate shit because you got guys like us telling them.
00:47:59.000 Women been had that.
00:48:00.000 Yeah.
00:48:01.000 Oh, well, you know, don't accept less and Sheera 7 and all them and, you know, I would never go to Cheesecake Factory.
00:48:07.000 She got 150,000, you know, young women watching this and shit.
00:48:11.000 And so now they just...
00:48:13.000 It's just a monkey-see-monkey-do thing.
00:48:15.000 Yeah.
00:48:16.000 Women have had game and shit like that for a long time, and they've been sharing this information about it for a while.
00:48:21.000 In group chats, in forums.
00:48:23.000 Women read a lot.
00:48:23.000 There's no books.
00:48:24.000 You know what I mean?
00:48:26.000 Women read books on this shit a lot of times.
00:48:28.000 Guys just started getting into this thing in the past couple years.
00:48:31.000 I remember before all of us blew up on the internet, like, bro, the whole pickup community and Red Pill shit, that was like, bro, it was like, nobody know about it.
00:48:39.000 They didn't know about none of that shit.
00:48:40.000 It was like...
00:48:42.000 It was kind of like a hidden secret.
00:48:44.000 Like, oh, yo, you know how to get girls, bro.
00:48:46.000 Like, this is what you do.
00:48:47.000 Like, you just cold approach, blah, blah, blah.
00:48:49.000 And it was like underground community until Mystery came out, right?
00:48:53.000 Mystery came out, I remember, with the pickup artists in like 2005, 2006, 2007, somewhere around that time.
00:48:58.000 And that's like when it kind of hit the mainstream media.
00:49:00.000 But we still didn't have the internet and social media to really spread it.
00:49:03.000 So...
00:49:04.000 You know, that was kind of a buzz.
00:49:06.000 People kind of like figured out that shit.
00:49:07.000 That's how I found this community.
00:49:09.000 But it wasn't really until like the internet hit and forums and then boom, like TikTok, social media, etc.
00:49:16.000 And I would say, you know, I got to give ourselves a little bit of credit.
00:49:19.000 Like we're one of the biggest people to like bring the Red Pill out there like to the mainstream, like making the shit mainstream.
00:49:23.000 Right.
00:49:24.000 And then obviously you were right there with us because you were blown up at TikTok right around the same time.
00:49:28.000 You know, now guys have this information.
00:49:30.000 But if you really look at it, like, So many guys are behind.
00:49:34.000 Like, bro, we've only touched a fraction of the male audience.
00:49:37.000 And if you don't believe me, look at one of my...
00:49:39.000 You wanna know how you know the world is so blue pill?
00:49:43.000 If you look at one of my videos on TikTok or some shit like that, I didn't post that hit the algo randomly, you're going to see a bunch of blue pill people.
00:49:48.000 This guy's a misogynist.
00:49:50.000 This guy's crazy.
00:49:51.000 This guy's a weirdo.
00:49:53.000 Wow, who talks about women like that?
00:49:56.000 That's when you realize, oh shit.
00:49:58.000 Because if you take our videos, because if you put it in our audience, it's like an echo chamber.
00:50:01.000 Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck yeah.
00:50:02.000 But if you put it out to regular niggas, regular girls and dudes, they're going to be like, what the fuck is this shit?
00:50:07.000 They're going to look at it like it's fucking...
00:50:09.000 Until they get hurt.
00:50:10.000 Yeah.
00:50:11.000 Divorce.
00:50:11.000 But even then, what I've seen with that is they don't wake up then until they see something.
00:50:18.000 Because these guys, whether they get hurt over it, they just think they're making a bad choice.
00:50:23.000 So it's like, okay, well, I'm going to just try again with a girl that fucking lives in the country.
00:50:28.000 She was the wrong one.
00:50:28.000 She was the wrong one.
00:50:29.000 Nah, bro.
00:50:30.000 Nah, you're clueless.
00:50:31.000 You just have no clue.
00:50:33.000 But I just didn't, it blow my mind like how many guys just don't, I thought everybody was like me before I started doing this.
00:50:38.000 I thought everybody was just like, had a kind of, you know, because again, when you don't have the internet, all you know is your little world.
00:50:45.000 You know, your neighborhood or wherever you go.
00:50:47.000 So you think that everybody's like you, and it's almost, again, sad to see how many guys are clueless.
00:50:53.000 Can you even have conversations or tolerate dudes that are clueless like that?
00:50:58.000 Me, personally, I can't even be around Blue Pill dudes no more.
00:51:00.000 I can in a sense, but it can't be about that.
00:51:03.000 It'll have to be about business.
00:51:05.000 We have to be talking about video games or business or something like that.
00:51:09.000 But as far as the game, it's like...
00:51:11.000 You keep them out of that.
00:51:11.000 I actually got a good friend.
00:51:14.000 A good friend of mine.
00:51:15.000 He's probably watching.
00:51:16.000 But it's not like a street guy or nothing.
00:51:18.000 Like a good guy.
00:51:18.000 It's an Italian guy.
00:51:19.000 It's him and his dad.
00:51:21.000 What y'all would consider blue pill.
00:51:22.000 They've been like that since I was in high school.
00:51:24.000 And I used to go to their house a lot.
00:51:25.000 And they used to hear me and the way that I talked to women.
00:51:27.000 They used to thought I was like the most...
00:51:30.000 Like, evil person.
00:51:31.000 It's like, how could you?
00:51:32.000 But I wasn't like a bad guy, but I would just be more assertive when I would talk to women.
00:51:37.000 This is back in the days when you used the house phone and they picked up the phone and they listening and shit like that.
00:51:41.000 You know, so they used to think that like, they used to think that I was just like this horrible person.
00:51:46.000 What would you tell them that shocked them?
00:51:48.000 Like, just, hey, come over and bring me this.
00:51:50.000 Like, oh, I want to see you so bad, because you got to think, before Instagram and social media, women didn't have access to you like that.
00:51:58.000 And so they missed you.
00:51:59.000 So they ain't seen you all week.
00:52:00.000 They can't get in touch with you all week.
00:52:02.000 There was no cell phones where they had access.
00:52:05.000 Now women think you owe them something.
00:52:07.000 But back then, it would be like, you know, they missed you.
00:52:10.000 Different world, bro.
00:52:10.000 You know, I would call them, they'd catch up with me at my friend's house, and it's like, oh, I want to see you so bad, please.
00:52:15.000 I was like, oh, you got to bring me some food or bring me some cigarettes and shit.
00:52:18.000 And they would hear me do this, and they just thought that I was like the scum of the earth, but now they get it.
00:52:23.000 Now they get it.
00:52:24.000 Both of them, now they get it.
00:52:25.000 They see me now, it's like, man.
00:52:26.000 Did they get divorced or like lose their chick or some shit like that?
00:52:29.000 My friend's dad, he...
00:52:31.000 Since I knew my friend, he has been single.
00:52:33.000 He divorced my friend's mom.
00:52:36.000 I hope he's going to be mad at me for saying this shit.
00:52:39.000 And this is like one of my good friends, not like a street associate.
00:52:42.000 He divorced her or she divorced her?
00:52:43.000 The mom and the dad split up.
00:52:45.000 Ever since I've known them, the mom and the dad has been split up and he was living with his dad.
00:52:50.000 And he's never remarried since then.
00:52:53.000 He said, forget about it!
00:52:56.000 They're crazy, they're Italian.
00:52:59.000 He's been single ever since, and I met them in 1999, 2000.
00:53:04.000 Goddamn.
00:53:04.000 You know, he's an old man now.
00:53:06.000 He's still just like...
00:53:06.000 You met them when NSYNC was out.
00:53:08.000 Yeah.
00:53:12.000 I think it's important to note, though, that even though we are RP-aware, the world isn't RP-aware.
00:53:19.000 It's just so many guys.
00:53:21.000 But also, you have this knowledge, you don't just throw it out everywhere.
00:53:26.000 You say, you know what?
00:53:26.000 Let me read the temperature of the room.
00:53:28.000 All right, what's he about?
00:53:29.000 What's he on?
00:53:29.000 If he's like that, you push on somebody like that, they'll be like, yo, what's wrong with you?
00:53:33.000 And they might ask you what the business deals, all this stuff.
00:53:35.000 You gotta move accordingly.
00:53:36.000 We kind of almost, like, with what we do, like, back then, this was considered, like, violating because you don't, like, the game was not considered to, like, the game, as you say, the game is to be so not told.
00:53:47.000 So suckers don't deserve good game, and so, like, if you saw a guy that would sleep, you let him sleep.
00:53:51.000 Yeah.
00:53:52.000 And you had to earn, like, my dad taught me shit like this.
00:53:54.000 Like, it wasn't, like, You know, and I had to bump my head and figure it out.
00:53:58.000 There wasn't no thing where we could just go to somebody and he'd just tell you everything for $100 and he'd give you an e-book and all this shit.
00:54:04.000 It was none of that.
00:54:04.000 That's still now to guys that's like out there considered frowned upon with what we do.
00:54:08.000 See, if someone asks me that like I know in real life and have issues, I'll tell them the game.
00:54:13.000 But if they have issues, I'm just gonna watch.
00:54:16.000 And it says, yo, Fresh, we think about this.
00:54:18.000 Then I'll tell you.
00:54:19.000 I'm going to be like, oh yeah, here, do this.
00:54:20.000 Knock.
00:54:21.000 Hold on.
00:54:22.000 That's my girl, bro.
00:54:24.000 Don't talk to her like that.
00:54:25.000 It's like, bro, relax.
00:54:26.000 Yeah, man.
00:54:27.000 It's crazy how many guys sleepwalk through life, man.
00:54:30.000 And it's just wild to me.
00:54:31.000 And even now, with the emergence of the internet, I'm glad because we've been able to wake up a lot of people and put them on to other creators, whether it's you or Rolo or any of these guys in the space.
00:54:39.000 Because I really do think...
00:54:41.000 We all are kind of trying to do the same thing and keep guys from, like, fucking their lives up because women will fuck your life up, bro.
00:54:47.000 I can't tell you how many guys, like, literally are ready to end it.
00:54:50.000 Like you said, really, really ready to end it all for a female that doesn't even fucking deserve it in the first place.
00:54:56.000 Like, bro, this girl was a 304.
00:54:58.000 You should have never gave her a relationship.
00:55:00.000 Why the fuck do you get in a relationship with her?
00:55:01.000 And then you're ready to end it for her.
00:55:02.000 And it's like, bro, she was playing you the whole time.
00:55:04.000 But you know what's funny?
00:55:05.000 People will play our videos in front of their girlfriend because they don't want to say it, but because they know, people will be like, why do you say that?
00:55:14.000 Why are you watching that?
00:55:15.000 He doesn't have a point though.
00:55:16.000 And that's why they break into the conversation from us just talking about it on life.
00:55:20.000 But you're not even supposed to do that.
00:55:21.000 You're supposed to keep women away from the game.
00:55:23.000 You take the game.
00:55:24.000 You take the information, you apply it to your life, and you upgrade your woman that way.
00:55:28.000 You're not supposed to take my shit and just, hey, look, this is what he said.
00:55:31.000 Because whether y'all know it or not, your woman be thinking you got guys up here, got it going on, got all this clout and status and purpose and all this.
00:55:40.000 In the back of her mind, she's like, I might as well fuck him.
00:55:42.000 Exactly.
00:55:43.000 You saying everything, he said, I might as well go fuck him.
00:55:45.000 Yeah.
00:55:46.000 Yeah.
00:55:47.000 Yeah.
00:55:48.000 Yeah.
00:56:07.000 A lot of these guys, they speak to their women the way we speak to them.
00:56:12.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:12.000 You see, the way we speak to them.
00:56:14.000 Matter of fact, they'll show, you know, they'll show, they'll try to prove a point to their woman, and they'll show them my video, or they'll show them your video, like, look, he said this, so it's, you don't do that.
00:56:24.000 You're not supposed to do that, because she looking at you like you're supposed to have your own mind.
00:56:27.000 And here's the other thing, too.
00:56:28.000 Oh, sorry, sorry.
00:56:28.000 No, I want you to finish.
00:56:29.000 You're supposed to have your own mind.
00:56:31.000 You're supposed to have your own game as a man.
00:56:33.000 You should know this by now.
00:56:34.000 Not even that you're supposed to know this by now, but women don't like to look at you like you're somebody's parrot.
00:56:43.000 You're not like you're another man's parrot.
00:56:45.000 You see what I'm saying?
00:56:46.000 So you take what we give you and you add it to yourself and then you deliver it in the way that you deliver it.
00:56:51.000 And the other thing too, I really hate to say this, but this is something that I've realized.
00:56:57.000 It's a very dark and disturbing thing about females.
00:57:02.000 Women don't respect self-improvement.
00:57:04.000 I fucking said it.
00:57:05.000 What do you mean?
00:57:06.000 Yeah, and I'll tell you what I mean by that.
00:57:09.000 They don't respect seeing you during the process of self-improvement and actually doing it.
00:57:16.000 Does that make sense?
00:57:16.000 Absorbing the knowledge.
00:57:17.000 Like, you're supposed to self-improve and let her just benefit from the self-improvement versus she's observing you self-improve and being like, what the fuck?
00:57:26.000 You should know this already, nigga.
00:57:27.000 What's wrong with you?
00:57:28.000 Because...
00:57:29.000 Females don't really put as much stake into self-improvement that we do.
00:57:33.000 Like, men understand, I must self-improve if I want to get women, if I want to get respect from my peers, if I want to get money, if I want to get status.
00:57:39.000 I must self-improve.
00:57:40.000 Women get that shit given to them from the beginning.
00:57:42.000 They don't have to self-improve.
00:57:43.000 They can just be them.
00:57:44.000 That's why we have so many dumb bimbos out here that are out here getting a rich husband or out on yachts or whatever.
00:57:49.000 The whole concept of self-improving and learning game, making money, getting in the gym, etc., Women don't really understand this shit.
00:57:56.000 They don't really know it because they don't have to do it.
00:57:58.000 So when they observe you taking in content to self-improve, especially when it has to deal with women, they're going to look at you kind of sideways like, wait, you have to learn how to get girls?
00:58:08.000 Yeah, bitch, because y'all are not easy.
00:58:10.000 But they don't understand this concept because everything in life to them comes easy and they just figure it out because they don't have to work for anything.
00:58:15.000 I would argue they do like you improving if it benefits them.
00:58:19.000 That's the only way.
00:58:20.000 But let me tell you something.
00:58:21.000 This is another thing.
00:58:22.000 When you ask me the number one mistake guys make, a lot of times a lot of guys sacrifice their purpose and their dreams to appease their woman.
00:58:30.000 This is the thing.
00:58:31.000 A lot of women are average.
00:58:36.000 By definition, they have to be.
00:58:37.000 A lot of women are average.
00:58:38.000 A lot of women are extra average.
00:58:39.000 A lot of women are below average.
00:58:41.000 And they understand something called security.
00:58:43.000 And so your regular self is security to them.
00:58:46.000 And so whenever they see you growing and getting in the gym and fucking upgrading and reading and you're walking and a little bit more confidence, that's a security risk.
00:58:56.000 And so a lot of women are lazy.
00:58:59.000 If they see you doing that, if they see you doing that, they know They have to do it too.
00:59:07.000 They have to get up and they have to grow with you.
00:59:10.000 A lot of women don't want to grow.
00:59:12.000 Growing is uncomfortable.
00:59:13.000 You got to sacrifice.
00:59:14.000 You can't eat what you want to eat.
00:59:17.000 You got to go to sleep early.
00:59:18.000 You can't do certain shit.
00:59:20.000 You live in a certain type of way.
00:59:22.000 You know, now it's boundaries.
00:59:24.000 I'm respecting myself now.
00:59:25.000 You can't talk to me that way no more.
00:59:27.000 A lot of women don't want to do that, and they'll sabotage you.
00:59:29.000 They'll sabotage you.
00:59:30.000 And so a lot of the times when they see you growing like that, they don't want to grow with you.
00:59:39.000 Yeah, that too.
00:59:40.000 They don't want to grow with you.
00:59:41.000 That too.
00:59:41.000 And I think, like...
00:59:44.000 It's one thing if you're self-improving maybe in the gym a little bit more or trying to make money or whatever, but what I've noticed is if girls are watching you taking content to be better with women, they kind of look at you crazy.
00:59:56.000 Because they look at it like...
00:59:58.000 What the fuck?
00:59:58.000 You don't just know this?
00:59:59.000 You have to learn this shit?
01:00:00.000 That's weird.
01:00:02.000 Because girls are like, what's the vibe?
01:00:05.000 I just go with the flow.
01:00:06.000 They think life is just a fucking sandbox.
01:00:09.000 You're just playing in it and shit.
01:00:10.000 They don't understand that everything needs to be deliberate.
01:00:13.000 When she comes to your house, it needs to be clean.
01:00:15.000 Your toilet better not have no shit stains.
01:00:18.000 Put away your crazy medication if you got any.
01:00:21.000 They don't understand the process that men have to go through and the trials and tribulations men have to go through to be attractive to even get the date in the first place.
01:00:27.000 Because I can't tell you how many times we bring girls on this fucking podcast.
01:00:29.000 They're fucking clueless.
01:00:30.000 They think, you should just get it.
01:00:31.000 Bitch, no!
01:00:32.000 I had to figure it out, make mistakes, then I got it after the fact.
01:00:35.000 So when they see you taking in content, That deals with being attractive to women especially, they're going to look at you crazy because women never have to self-improve to get men.
01:00:45.000 So they look at you like you're crazy because you have to self-improve to get women?
01:00:47.000 What?
01:00:48.000 There's a saying, discovery trumps disclosure, which means if they can see you as the man that you need to be without seeing the books in your house or watching the videos, it's respect.
01:00:58.000 Versus they see, oh, what's that book?
01:01:00.000 Oh, it's the women how to become better.
01:01:03.000 Nigga, what's wrong with you?
01:01:04.000 Got a good point.
01:01:05.000 Yeah.
01:01:05.000 You know what I mean?
01:01:06.000 Like, even the title of my book, it's like, why wouldn't we deserve less?
01:01:09.000 It's funny, right?
01:01:10.000 Like, that's a conversation starter.
01:01:11.000 But, like, if the dude was to tell the girl, like, oh yeah, this is a book on how to get girls, they'd be like, oh, what the fuck?
01:01:16.000 You know what I mean?
01:01:17.000 So, yeah, I've just noticed that, like, women really don't respect if you try to learn game or how to pick up girls or whatever.
01:01:25.000 And then also, I think another side of them, why they don't like it, is because then they...
01:01:30.000 When you understand game, you learn instantly all the unflattering realities about women.
01:01:35.000 You learn all their deepest secrets.
01:01:37.000 You learn all the shit that they don't want you to know.
01:01:39.000 And you can say no to them.
01:01:40.000 And you can say no.
01:01:41.000 So they look at it like, damn, this nigga's learning his value because half the game is understanding your value compared to hers and then making real-time decisions off of that.
01:01:51.000 Like that girl Sam, perfect example, right?
01:01:53.000 She comes on the show, I tell Neal, what the fuck are you doing?
01:01:56.000 This chick is a 304, she using you, blah, blah, blah.
01:01:58.000 What am I doing?
01:01:59.000 I'm wearing him to his value compared to hers.
01:02:02.000 So what does she do?
01:02:03.000 Two days later, I need you to block Myron.
01:02:06.000 Oh!
01:02:06.000 I've always been that friend.
01:02:07.000 I have always been that friend.
01:02:09.000 Like, my homies, the girls don't like me.
01:02:11.000 Especially the ones who not as like...
01:02:15.000 It's always been like this.
01:02:16.000 The guys who are not as aware, like my good friends, they chicks never liked me.
01:02:21.000 And it's not because I'm a bad guy and I'm going to just make him cheat on you or none of that shit, but I'm the guy like, don't let her talk to you like that.
01:02:29.000 Like, you don't have to deal with that.
01:02:30.000 You know, make her fucking do something for you.
01:02:33.000 You got this bitch sitting in your house all day, you know, not doing nothing.
01:02:36.000 They don't like that.
01:02:37.000 They don't like me.
01:02:38.000 See, you know what I do, bro?
01:02:39.000 I just plant seeds.
01:02:40.000 So I'll be cool with the girl on a level where, like, we're cool, we go out, whatever.
01:02:44.000 But I'll, like, secretly have, like, things in my back pocket.
01:02:47.000 Like, yo, bro, you know your girl's doing this?
01:02:50.000 He's like, oh, I didn't know that.
01:02:52.000 Yeah, that's crazy, bro.
01:02:53.000 I'm like, yo, bro, you know about this?
01:02:54.000 I didn't know.
01:02:55.000 And he's like, damn.
01:02:56.000 This is fucked up.
01:02:57.000 And over time, they might get it, but they might not get it.
01:02:59.000 But if you tell them up front, oh, bro, you're hitting on me, bro.
01:03:02.000 What's wrong with you?
01:03:03.000 It just sucks, bro.
01:03:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:03:04.000 That's why.
01:03:05.000 Well, you be networking, so I get it.
01:03:07.000 You got to be around blue pill niggas.
01:03:08.000 Yeah, I got to make it work.
01:03:09.000 For me, I don't have that issue because I don't hang out with nobody that's not aware.
01:03:12.000 So it's like, yo, what the fuck?
01:03:14.000 And they're like, yeah, you right.
01:03:15.000 What the fuck?
01:03:15.000 That bitch was out of line.
01:03:18.000 But yeah, but that's great though.
01:03:19.000 That's like when you know you're doing well, like you care about your friends.
01:03:22.000 When your friends' girlfriends are scared for them to be around you or don't like you, then that's a good sign for you that you're a good friend to your bros, of course.
01:03:30.000 Hopefully they come around when they learn their lesson, hopefully.
01:03:32.000 Hopefully, man.
01:03:33.000 But most guys don't, bro.
01:03:34.000 And that shit really pisses me off, man.
01:03:36.000 Because like I said before, there's nothing that pisses me off more...
01:03:39.000 Then guys not understanding their value and getting punished for that shit by a female that never deserved them in the first place.
01:03:44.000 You know what I mean?
01:03:45.000 It's crazy to me because I look at it and I'm like, men have to work way harder to be attractive.
01:03:50.000 And you're telling me that you worked your ass off and you're settling with this bullshit?
01:03:54.000 Like, what the fuck is this shit, man?
01:03:55.000 They don't know their value.
01:03:56.000 Yeah, man.
01:03:57.000 And that's girl game, I would argue.
01:03:59.000 Girl game is exploiting men not being aware of their value.
01:04:05.000 100%.
01:04:06.000 100%.
01:04:06.000 That's their angle.
01:04:07.000 Because anything else, like with a guy who knows his value, she has to work.
01:04:13.000 Like, you can't come around me just because you cute and, you know, or you can suck.
01:04:18.000 I can get my dick sucked anywhere.
01:04:20.000 I can go get some pussy from anywhere.
01:04:22.000 I can get my house clean.
01:04:23.000 I can pay somebody to get my house clean.
01:04:25.000 You can't just come around me soaking up my energy and running my motherfucking light bill up.
01:04:31.000 Just kidding.
01:04:41.000 You can't just come around me.
01:04:45.000 You gotta come with it.
01:04:46.000 A lot of women look for guys who don't know that because it's easy.
01:04:50.000 It's more secure.
01:04:51.000 Not that you can't fault them for it, but it just makes more sense to get with a guy who don't know his value.
01:04:58.000 Because you don't have to work as hard.
01:04:59.000 And you can run game.
01:05:00.000 You know, you don't have to work as hard.
01:05:01.000 You can put in a little bit and get a lot.
01:05:03.000 Like, I hate to do it, like the Destiny chick.
01:05:08.000 Or the Neon.
01:05:10.000 What's the girl's name?
01:05:11.000 Sam?
01:05:11.000 Yeah.
01:05:12.000 She can put in a little bit.
01:05:13.000 Like, I guarantee you she don't really do much for him.
01:05:15.000 She didn't even, like, smash him for the longest.
01:05:16.000 She can put in, like, a very little bit and literally has changed her life.
01:05:20.000 Like, you know, Dre, you called me before.
01:05:23.000 Remember what you said earlier?
01:05:24.000 You said, what do whores do?
01:05:26.000 They pick the easiest.
01:05:28.000 Whores, listen.
01:05:30.000 Whores go for the weakest men.
01:05:32.000 For relationships.
01:05:33.000 Because everybody need love.
01:05:35.000 Women need love.
01:05:35.000 You know how they say fat girls need love too back in the day?
01:05:38.000 You know, not niggas is hitting fat chicks.
01:05:41.000 Let me not say that.
01:05:42.000 Hey, man!
01:05:43.000 I've been there, bro.
01:05:44.000 Me too, man.
01:05:45.000 Me too.
01:05:46.000 Let me not say they're hitting it, but we used to keep it on the low now.
01:05:50.000 Like, back in the days, we used to keep that on the low.
01:05:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:05:53.000 A little big block.
01:05:54.000 You keep it on the low.
01:05:55.000 Tuesday night.
01:05:55.000 A big block.
01:05:57.000 Yeah.
01:05:58.000 But, you know, we used to keep it on the low.
01:06:01.000 But, yeah, the thing what hoes do is, you know, they need love.
01:06:07.000 And so a strong guy like myself is not...
01:06:11.000 We're not a match.
01:06:13.000 And so they typically target.
01:06:14.000 Certain niggas just not going to wipe up sluts.
01:06:15.000 It's not happening.
01:06:16.000 And they know that.
01:06:17.000 That's why they give you the pussy and whatever.
01:06:20.000 But they still need love.
01:06:22.000 Regardless of how promiscuous a woman is, regardless of how.
01:06:25.000 Now whether they deserve it a lot or not is a different story.
01:06:29.000 But they still need it.
01:06:30.000 They still yearn for it.
01:06:31.000 They still want the comfort.
01:06:32.000 They still want a warm body to lay next to.
01:06:34.000 They still want love.
01:06:36.000 They still want a guy to care for them.
01:06:37.000 They still want and desire protection, whether they deserve it or not.
01:06:40.000 They still want this, and they're going to get it.
01:06:42.000 And so they target the weaker guys.
01:06:44.000 Big facts.
01:06:45.000 It's that easy.
01:06:46.000 So whenever you see a guy who's weak, spineless, you know, don't really got no game like that, you look at his woman, she's more than likely a hoe.
01:06:55.000 All right.
01:06:55.000 Well said.
01:06:56.000 We got some chats here?
01:06:57.000 I got a question for...
01:06:57.000 Oh, yeah.
01:06:58.000 I'll read the chats right now.
01:06:59.000 We got a bunch...
01:07:00.000 But, Dre, I want to get your thoughts on the situation with Destiny and open relationships.
01:07:07.000 I want to get your take on it.
01:07:08.000 I'll read the chats and then we'll get it from you.
01:07:10.000 What do we got here?
01:07:11.000 Cam two times.
01:07:12.000 Cam two times.
01:07:13.000 Myron, last time we saw Susie, she was helping you on Fed a year ago.
01:07:16.000 To this day, I still wonder what happened after, because right before you ended the stream, she told you to shut the fuck up.
01:07:20.000 I thought you castled her for good.
01:07:22.000 I was so shocked to see her on the panel again.
01:07:24.000 What?
01:07:25.000 She said that?
01:07:26.000 No, I don't think she said that, man.
01:07:28.000 I don't recall that.
01:07:29.000 She might have been...
01:07:30.000 Yeah, maybe she was kidding or some shit, but no, definitely trust me, bro.
01:07:33.000 I would have Frank castled her immediately.
01:07:34.000 Trust me, bro.
01:07:35.000 She's definitely Arnie's.
01:07:38.000 This nigga, man.
01:07:40.000 In general, in general, in general.
01:07:42.000 This nigga, man.
01:07:43.000 Alright, WFresh, last reel.
01:07:44.000 Inspiration, almost 1 million views.
01:07:46.000 Let's fun go.
01:07:47.000 Oh yeah, I posted my...
01:07:48.000 Someone asked me in my serial network why I changed to, well, for the better.
01:07:53.000 And I kind of brought back the Grant Cardone interview where I was told, sell the water.
01:07:57.000 I couldn't do it.
01:07:58.000 I was too nervous.
01:07:59.000 I was too polite, too shy.
01:08:00.000 And that was a big point for me because back then I was not who I am today.
01:08:05.000 But that would not change to become better.
01:08:07.000 Okay.
01:08:08.000 That was big.
01:08:09.000 I've been waiting for this interview for three years.
01:08:11.000 So glad to see King Dre at FNF. Appreciate what y'all do.
01:08:14.000 He's here now, man.
01:08:15.000 He's here now, like I said before, bro.
01:08:17.000 If you came up with us, you're going to come up with us as well.
01:08:21.000 Okay, ATN Machine goes, Thanks to you guys, I'm making more money than ever before.
01:08:24.000 Question, I'm 31, divorced, single dad, making $144K a year in Indiana, and recently became single.
01:08:29.000 Dad says I should date women in my same age group.
01:08:32.000 Thoughts?
01:08:32.000 Hell no, bro.
01:08:33.000 Date younger girls, man.
01:08:35.000 Don't go too younger.
01:08:37.000 We could get into that, but I don't agree with a certain age.
01:08:41.000 I just...
01:08:42.000 Yeah, what do you think as a prime age?
01:08:45.000 I say 25 and up, and this is why.
01:08:47.000 Okay, go ahead.
01:08:49.000 Younger, a lot of the times, and a lot of guys who didn't live it and haven't been out there don't realize this about young women.
01:08:54.000 Younger women are in it.
01:08:56.000 If a younger woman is in a relationship...
01:08:58.000 Now, if you're an older guy and you're a player or you got your shit together, you got your game, that's a little bit different.
01:09:03.000 But for the vast majority of men...
01:09:04.000 Especially guys in that age group.
01:09:06.000 If you're 23 and your girlfriend is 22, she is with you for emotional support, period.
01:09:11.000 And she's fucking somebody else.
01:09:12.000 Almost 100% of the time, younger women, they're just not there yet.
01:09:16.000 They're not ready to take care of families.
01:09:18.000 They're not ready to have, you know, cultivate, especially in this society.
01:09:22.000 Now, whether you're overseas or one of them other societies, cool, but here...
01:09:26.000 That's just not a good look, man.
01:09:27.000 When women that age, from like 18 to 22, this is when they're racking up their bodies.
01:09:32.000 They know they're fine or they know guys want them and they're cashing in on that.
01:09:37.000 That's not to say that every single woman is a whore and smashing a million dudes.
01:09:41.000 However, younger women that age are typically not in a relationship to be in a relationship.
01:09:48.000 They're in a relationship for the emotional support.
01:09:50.000 And typically...
01:09:52.000 If she's in a relationship, you're not the guy that's like the quote-unquote alpha male or the player.
01:09:58.000 You are typically the sucker.
01:09:59.000 Just think back to when you was 22 years old and think about all your friends that was in relationships with women that age.
01:10:05.000 Or think about in college when you was in college and all them chicks that had the little boyfriends in college and what they was doing.
01:10:11.000 So younger women that age, they don't start maturing.
01:10:14.000 They say women mature faster than men.
01:10:17.000 That's bullshit.
01:10:18.000 They just be fucking earlier than men.
01:10:20.000 But...
01:10:22.000 You know, women don't, especially as far as wanting to settle down and have them, women don't start maturing to that point until they start 24, 25, when their brains fully develop.
01:10:31.000 I don't think women mature.
01:10:33.000 I'll go further.
01:10:34.000 I don't think bitches mature until they start buying their own drinks at the bar, bro.
01:10:38.000 Real tight.
01:10:38.000 Until she hit 30 and she start buying her own drinks, that's when she wakes up and says, damn.
01:10:43.000 Okay, I might need to readjust my shit.
01:10:45.000 That is true.
01:10:46.000 You make a good point because we always advocate that guys get younger women, but obviously that comes with a caveat, right?
01:10:53.000 Because you're dealing with a younger girl, so you're going to have to have your shit really together.
01:10:58.000 On point.
01:10:58.000 You got to be on point because she's high sexual market value.
01:11:01.000 She's at her peak.
01:11:02.000 So this is why I tell y'all.
01:11:04.000 35 years old, trying to make six figures a year, have six months saved up, have had sex with 50 girls, be in shape at the gym.
01:11:14.000 Once you have game, have frame, etc., once you have these things in place, you can bring in a chick that's 18, 19, 21, whatever the fuck, and reel her in, build her up to the woman.
01:11:23.000 Yeah, you're right, but you make a fantastic point.
01:11:26.000 A lot of guys, it might be their second girlfriend, third girlfriend.
01:11:29.000 I can't tell you, Dre, how many girls have boyfriends at 22, 18, 19, but they're stand-ins.
01:11:36.000 They're just there to support them emotionally, like you said.
01:11:40.000 And y'all out here, you out here, you know.
01:11:42.000 Nigga, I know.
01:11:43.000 Bro, they'll smash you, and then it's like, hold on, let me check out her Instagram.
01:11:48.000 She got a whole boyfriend.
01:11:48.000 A whole boyfriend.
01:11:49.000 A little dude don't even know what's going on.
01:11:51.000 And I'm like, damn, homie doesn't even know that she's the whole.
01:11:54.000 But again, he's a stand-in.
01:11:56.000 That's why you're just emotional support.
01:11:59.000 Remember, whether women, whether we feel like they deserve this shit or not, They're human beings and they want love, care, support, attention, emotional support.
01:12:10.000 And, you know, when they're out ripping and running the streets, guys like how I used to be, I ain't got nothing for you.
01:12:17.000 But dick and, you know, maybe some top wings or something like that.
01:12:20.000 I don't really have nothing for you.
01:12:22.000 But they still need it.
01:12:23.000 So they're giving their bodies to the players and the alpha males.
01:12:26.000 But they still need something.
01:12:28.000 Yeah.
01:12:29.000 And when they're going through those little phases at their age, their boyfriends are typically those types of guys.
01:12:35.000 That's just facts.
01:12:36.000 They cuddle.
01:12:36.000 They support them.
01:12:37.000 Oh, yeah.
01:12:38.000 You can do better, babe.
01:12:39.000 I got your back.
01:12:39.000 Yeah.
01:12:40.000 And then they'd be doing the...
01:12:42.000 College girls, bro.
01:12:43.000 The cuff season, yeah.
01:12:44.000 College girls, bro?
01:12:45.000 Holy crap.
01:12:45.000 I just always, you know, the younger girl, the younger, like 18, 19, that's probably, that's the worst to get a woman.
01:12:53.000 And then...
01:12:54.000 A lot of the times, especially in this society, again, we're talking about America and Western society.
01:13:01.000 Women are not socialized and engineered to be wives or girlfriends.
01:13:06.000 They're socialized to do a certain thing, even if they're not like feminists.
01:13:10.000 They're socialized to go to school and worry about yourself and have fun or put themselves first in shit.
01:13:17.000 And so now, nowadays, it's been like that for forever.
01:13:22.000 And that's why, like, if you're gonna go with the younger girls, a lot of times I tell guys, go for a younger girl, but a lot of times she's gotta come from a certain culture for it to work, and you gotta be extra on point.
01:13:32.000 And, you know, I tell guys this, man, like, you really, you're gonna get a girl that's her sexual market value peak, right?
01:13:39.000 She's got to have her head on straight, come from a good family, all this shit's got to be in place, and you got to be on point for it to work.
01:13:45.000 You need frame, because again, she's going to want to have her fun and do these things, but with boundaries, okay, my man doesn't like this, I got to...
01:13:52.000 You got to be real tight on those girls.
01:13:54.000 Think about this, think about this.
01:13:55.000 How are you, Fresh?
01:13:56.000 31.
01:13:56.000 You're 31.
01:13:57.000 You know, you're smashing them, right?
01:14:00.000 Can a 22, 23-year-old compete with you just based on...
01:14:05.000 The type of money you got.
01:14:07.000 The type of experience you can give a woman.
01:14:09.000 Your car.
01:14:10.000 No.
01:14:10.000 You can't...
01:14:11.000 If she down here...
01:14:13.000 You can't compete.
01:14:14.000 And it's a million freshers in Miami or New York or L.A. You cannot compete with that.
01:14:20.000 You just can't.
01:14:21.000 Whether you got the game or not, they just have the aesthetics and the money and all.
01:14:25.000 You can't compete with that.
01:14:27.000 So you 22, 23 years old as a guy...
01:14:31.000 You know, the religious people aren't going to like this, but have you some fun, learn women.
01:14:36.000 It's the worst thing to do in this society is to be trying to lock down one of these chicks.
01:14:41.000 It's just your turn, my friend.
01:14:43.000 It's just your turn, bro.
01:14:47.000 It's funny because what you're saying now, bro, goes on people's heads because they're like, oh, you know what?
01:14:50.000 She's beautiful.
01:14:51.000 I get sex.
01:14:52.000 She's here for me.
01:14:53.000 But, bro, you need time to see who she really is because, bro, she'll tell you over time.
01:14:57.000 Yeah, you really gotta have your shit together if you're gonna go for younger girls and try to wipe them up.
01:15:01.000 Like, you date them, et cetera, if you think that she's a little bit different than the others and you think that there's potential, then maybe you could try some, but yeah, you gotta have your shit together, bro.
01:15:10.000 You gotta have your game together because these younger chicks, and they're a lot, too, a lot of younger chicks, they're not emotionally mature yet.
01:15:16.000 We could say, oh, well, some women, older women, but typically younger women are not emotionally mature.
01:15:23.000 They're a lot more selfish.
01:15:24.000 They're a lot more attention, you know, a lot more attention- They get hella offers, bro.
01:15:29.000 If you don't know how to deal with that and how to correct that, if you're not a strong guy that has a program to where she can get on and follow that, you're going to always lose.
01:15:39.000 So if you're going to date younger women, have your shit together.
01:15:41.000 Have your shit together, yeah.
01:15:42.000 Yeah, you have to.
01:15:43.000 And pick the right ones.
01:15:44.000 And pick the right ones.
01:15:45.000 Father.
01:15:46.000 You know, and I'm really glad that we had King Dre here to talk about this because we tell guys all the time, go for younger women, go for younger women.
01:15:51.000 But of course, you need to have, because we just say it, but we already know what needs to be put in place.
01:15:55.000 But they might think, oh, okay, go for younger women.
01:15:58.000 Meet some random bitch from college, 18 years old, just pledged her sorority.
01:16:03.000 Bro, that's probably not a girl that you want to take seriously.
01:16:05.000 Go ahead and smash her, whatever it may be, but don't try to wipe up that girl because she's not wife of material.
01:16:09.000 So you've got to be able to identify the younger women that are wife of material.
01:16:13.000 Then you've got to have the program for them, once they've been identified, to be in the program.
01:16:18.000 And then you've got to mold them into how you want.
01:16:19.000 And then also, like you said, you've got to be ready for the obstacles that are inevitably going to come in the way.
01:16:23.000 I wanna go girls night out!
01:16:24.000 I wanna go to Cancun!
01:16:25.000 My friends wanna do this!
01:16:27.000 Blah, blah, blah.
01:16:28.000 How you gonna deal with all that shit?
01:16:29.000 Because you really gotta be on point when you're dealing with a girl that's at the top of her game when it comes to sexual market value.
01:16:34.000 Like, you just gotta be really on point.
01:16:35.000 And you have to, again, be able to say no.
01:16:37.000 Yeah.
01:16:37.000 But for guys, it's hard.
01:16:38.000 Oh, she's beautiful, bro.
01:16:39.000 Yeah.
01:16:40.000 I don't wanna piss her off.
01:16:40.000 She's gonna leave me.
01:16:41.000 Yeah.
01:16:41.000 You know how many women have told me you're the first person that ever told me no?
01:16:44.000 Boom.
01:16:45.000 Boom.
01:16:47.000 It amazes me when I hear women say, oh, you're the first woman, you're the first guy that ever told me no, or that ever told me don't, you know, or to have boundaries.
01:16:53.000 I'm like, what the fuck?
01:16:54.000 Bro, that shit's scary, isn't it?
01:16:55.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
01:16:56.000 And imagine marrying that woman that's never been told no.
01:17:00.000 Holy.
01:17:00.000 Holy.
01:17:01.000 Bro.
01:17:01.000 Goddamn.
01:17:02.000 Yo, man.
01:17:03.000 Alright, I'll fly through these.
01:17:04.000 And from this point forward, guys, we're going to go 50 and up, but I'll read these that came in from before.
01:17:09.000 What else do we got?
01:17:10.000 We got a lot.
01:17:11.000 Okay, but the ones that, I'll read them all.
01:17:14.000 Okay.
01:17:15.000 Dre out here spitting straight facts.
01:17:17.000 Society is Matrix.
01:17:18.000 It's set up for us to fail.
01:17:19.000 By the way, Dre, I see you out here rocking the letter P on your cap because you know you out here pimping my boy W. Fresh, W. Meyer, W. Fresh, W. Moe, W. Dre, L. Chris, W. Bills.
01:17:29.000 Okay.
01:17:30.000 Chris is not even here!
01:17:31.000 Y'all saw the YouTube show of Chris Krohn with his wife where he lets her have guy friends and lets her have private little walks with guy friends?
01:17:38.000 What?!
01:17:39.000 No, I didn't see that.
01:17:40.000 Bruh!
01:17:41.000 Well, it is what it is.
01:17:42.000 Found out last week that the most entertaining part of this show was watching all the crybabies in the chat whining about two of the busiest guys in Miami being late to put out the best value for men for free.
01:17:53.000 WFNFW advice.
01:17:54.000 Shout out to Tab Gang.
01:17:56.000 Yeah, dudes are always going to complain, bro.
01:17:58.000 It is what it is, man.
01:17:59.000 Bitch Story Nguyen goes, Destiny tried to get Rollo to release fake medical records to get him banned from YouTube.
01:18:04.000 That's a good person to you.
01:18:05.000 At every step of the way, Melina and Destiny have attacked your supporters and prayed for your mentor's downfall.
01:18:10.000 I didn't hear about that.
01:18:11.000 Oh, wow.
01:18:12.000 Just wanted to give a shout-out to King Dre the GOAT. But there's always two sides.
01:18:16.000 I gotta hear the full story.
01:18:17.000 And also, from the point of view of a good person, meaning that content-wise.
01:18:22.000 So, for example, we have different points of views.
01:18:25.000 We can sit on a table and debate it.
01:18:26.000 Yeah, and I've met him, I mean, he hasn't shown me anything from a personal perspective.
01:18:31.000 Remember, guys, I've sat with the guy, I've had dinner with him multiple times, I've spoken with him off camera.
01:18:36.000 He's a good person to me.
01:18:37.000 I mean, he's never done me wrong, so to me, he's a good person.
01:18:39.000 I mean, it is what it is.
01:18:41.000 You know, obviously, everyone's perspective is different.
01:18:44.000 Red Pill saying goes, Guys, what's your opinion on Tradcons?
01:18:47.000 I think they are male feminists who live in a fairytale where the ending is always perfect.
01:18:50.000 Time has changed and being Trad is outdated and will destroy the man Sneeko Axtrad on FNF with pipes hose off screen.
01:18:57.000 No comment.
01:18:58.000 We talked about that with Dre already.
01:19:00.000 No comment.
01:19:00.000 How much goes?
01:19:01.000 Did you guys see that Destiny girl not attached to why she go to him and not someone else?
01:19:05.000 We'll talk about that here in a second.
01:19:06.000 We'll get into Dre's take.
01:19:08.000 Number one mess podcast in the fuck world right here.
01:19:11.000 That's Real Talk.
01:19:11.000 You guys have helped me realize the game's not...
01:19:13.000 That women play.
01:19:14.000 We got you, bro.
01:19:16.000 And then, guys, on TikTok, check out King Drake because he's the last real nigga left on TikTok, bro.
01:19:20.000 I'll tell you that, man.
01:19:21.000 Everybody else is gone.
01:19:22.000 The rest of us are bad.
01:19:23.000 The last one standing.
01:19:24.000 I had a strike the other day.
01:19:26.000 I'm still standing.
01:19:28.000 Yeah, man.
01:19:29.000 Last world they go on TikTok, man.
01:19:30.000 Blackest Panther calls WKingDre.
01:19:32.000 WFNF is true.
01:19:33.000 The women do not want to see you as a dude they would have ever rejected in the past.
01:19:39.000 They can't imagine a weirdo they turned down in the past actually getting to smash them in the future, okay?
01:19:43.000 KingDre speaking.
01:19:44.000 Nothing but facts.
01:19:45.000 Shout out to JohnMLD for introducing me to KingDre.
01:19:47.000 Keep waking men up.
01:19:48.000 W Podcast, W Myron's Ways.
01:19:49.000 I appreciate it, man.
01:19:50.000 That's from The Last Hole Bender.
01:19:51.000 Trippy Ghost goes, y'all both changed my life, attracting good things and women.
01:19:55.000 Quick question.
01:19:56.000 Do any likes to get into real estate?
01:19:57.000 I'm trying to do what you do for real estate.
01:20:00.000 Can you do a step-by-step video?
01:20:01.000 Much love from the Bay Area.
01:20:03.000 We literally just did a step-by-step one a couple weeks ago on how to get real estate.
01:20:07.000 I don't know.
01:20:31.000 Okay.
01:20:32.000 I mean, that might be a bunch of chicks.
01:20:33.000 Let's talk about that falsely accused and shit.
01:20:34.000 Yeah.
01:20:35.000 Anything else?
01:20:36.000 Oh, okay.
01:20:37.000 You should see the book section at Target.
01:20:39.000 It's full of dating books for women.
01:20:40.000 They even have G.I. Jane's books, okay?
01:20:43.000 Oh, wow.
01:20:44.000 I got a money idea for you.
01:20:45.000 Create a fresh and fit app that has your whole soundboard, which is funny as hell.
01:20:49.000 I'd pay to have that app on my phone.
01:20:50.000 I bet other people would as well.
01:20:52.000 I'd pull it out and go in a female talking to me with her craziness, okay?
01:20:57.000 Nigga, that'll hurt you, though.
01:20:57.000 Yeah, don't do that.
01:20:58.000 All women are gold diggers.
01:20:59.000 Summer is better at hiding the shovels.
01:21:00.000 Wiring gains.
01:21:01.000 I appreciate that, my friend.
01:21:03.000 Merry Christmas, niggas.
01:21:05.000 LMAO, happy holidays.
01:21:06.000 All right.
01:21:07.000 That's from Conrad.
01:21:07.000 Albo goes, the RP always wins in the end.
01:21:10.000 People really think your girl can still love you the same when she's out smashing other men.
01:21:14.000 We're going to get Dre's take on that here in a second.
01:21:17.000 When is the next Overnighter, fellas?
01:21:19.000 Ooh, that's a good question.
01:21:20.000 What did we have on tap to do, guys?
01:21:23.000 What was the next one?
01:21:24.000 I think it was top diss songs or top self-snitching songs.
01:21:28.000 Okay.
01:21:29.000 That's what it is.
01:21:30.000 That'll be the next overnighter for y'all.
01:21:32.000 Shout out Gorilla Mind.
01:21:33.000 Or it was going to be watching Breaking Bad.
01:21:35.000 Or Borat.
01:21:36.000 Something like that.
01:21:38.000 Reaction to Borat.
01:21:38.000 I think it was either Borat.
01:21:39.000 Okay.
01:21:40.000 Alright.
01:21:40.000 We'll figure that out for y'all.
01:21:41.000 What else do we got here?
01:21:43.000 King Impressive.
01:21:43.000 Just finished watching Breaking Bad because of that DB episode.
01:21:46.000 It was good.
01:21:46.000 Yo, great show, right?
01:21:47.000 I don't really watch TV, but that's one I recommend.
01:21:49.000 I don't like Destiny, but can't blame him.
01:21:51.000 Bitches will leave anybody there unpredictable.
01:21:52.000 Yeah.
01:21:53.000 It's true, man.
01:21:54.000 Nobody's safe, bro.
01:21:55.000 Y'all pay some attention to this man.
01:21:56.000 He drops Wisdom and King Dre we trust.
01:21:58.000 Next time you're on this side, there are tacos in Pompano Beach so good you'll want to deport the cook.
01:22:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:22:03.000 There is a good taco spot in Pompano Beach.
01:22:06.000 God damn it, I can't.
01:22:06.000 Pompano?
01:22:08.000 How you know about that?
01:22:10.000 Pompano, this the hood, isn't it?
01:22:10.000 When I was an agent, there's an immigration facility there.
01:22:14.000 Every time we interviewed someone that we wanted to talk to, we tried to get them to be a snitch or whatever.
01:22:19.000 There was a taco spot right across the street.
01:22:21.000 That was really good.
01:22:22.000 I ain't going there, nigga.
01:22:23.000 They're called the Taqueria or some shit like that.
01:22:24.000 There's good areas up north, though.
01:22:25.000 In Pompano Beach, yeah.
01:22:27.000 They're not all bad.
01:22:28.000 Pompano?
01:22:29.000 Yeah, there's an immigration facility there.
01:22:31.000 BTC, Broward Transitional Center.
01:22:33.000 How can I get a girl to agree to open on her and only relationship?
01:22:37.000 How do we ideally, this convo, any phrases or methods that will help explain this hard concept to women?
01:22:41.000 I will have Dre take that after the Destiny situation.
01:22:44.000 You try to get that number one Ruby Rose OFN and try to save him, imagine what a W that would be.
01:22:49.000 I think Maren overestimated the severity of his mental illness.
01:22:51.000 He's just a corn addict with money.
01:22:52.000 Yeah, in fact, he is.
01:22:53.000 Maren said, hey, hey, hey, like 2,000 times in the last three podcasts becoming annoying.
01:22:59.000 Thanks, FNF, for the knowledge.
01:23:01.000 I don't know.
01:23:02.000 I'm lost, bro.
01:23:03.000 What are specific things besides fuck, cook, and clean that you can make her do daily and long-term?
01:23:08.000 Bro, that depends on you, man.
01:23:09.000 Every man has different requirements of their woman.
01:23:11.000 Whatever works for you, bro.
01:23:11.000 Different needs, yeah.
01:23:12.000 Hey, Drew, I see you've mentioned your father multiple times, which is powerful.
01:23:15.000 I'm a single father myself.
01:23:17.000 Any more game you got about your dad on your channel, you're saving men and future generations WFNF. We'll have him talk about that here in a second.
01:23:24.000 And then Maestro Man, you guys in the chat are talking about women under 25 is the only women under 25 of our thoughts that come on this show.
01:23:30.000 There's millions of women in this country, young, mature, and ready for a relationship.
01:23:34.000 Well, again, bro, that comes from a certain family that values that stuff.
01:23:41.000 Like, Dre is 100% right.
01:23:42.000 Like, women in Western culture at 18, 19, they're telling them Live your life.
01:23:46.000 Have fun.
01:23:46.000 Blah, blah, blah.
01:23:47.000 So anyway, guys, from this point forward, we're going to read 50 and up, but we read all the chats.
01:23:50.000 Dre, I'll turn it to you, man.
01:23:52.000 What are your thoughts on this situation with Destiny's Girl?
01:23:56.000 Your thoughts on open relationships in general?
01:23:57.000 How can men frame it where they're open and maybe their girl is closed?
01:24:01.000 I'll just turn it to you.
01:24:03.000 I'm going to talk about the Destiny one first.
01:24:05.000 Sure.
01:24:06.000 Remind me about the open on the man's end.
01:24:09.000 Yeah, how to phrase it for their girl.
01:24:10.000 Yeah.
01:24:13.000 I haven't seen it work yet.
01:24:15.000 You can't point anywhere to any example where the celebrity couple is like, oh, they have an open relationship on both ends and it's work and they're 80 and they're dying together.
01:24:24.000 I haven't seen it.
01:24:26.000 It's not going to work.
01:24:27.000 I don't think women are wired to even love two men like that at the same time.
01:24:33.000 When you give your woman the permission to...
01:24:36.000 Basically, seek out someone better than you because anybody watching this, you're not the tallest, you don't have the most money, you don't got the best game, somebody got a bigger dick than you, somebody got more game than you, somebody can actually meet her needs better than you can, and when you give them the permission slip to go find it,
01:24:54.000 they're going to find it.
01:24:56.000 Especially since they have so many options.
01:24:57.000 And then, the thing too, what a lot of guys don't realize is women...
01:25:05.000 We're good to go.
01:25:20.000 Somewhere deep inside her, she's going to know that you don't care about her.
01:25:25.000 Boundaries to a woman represent safety.
01:25:27.000 I've never had a woman who liked me or was into me that said, hey, I don't like your boundaries.
01:25:33.000 Oh, I can't get with that.
01:25:34.000 I've never seen that.
01:25:35.000 And so when you're a guy and you don't have boundaries and you let your woman fuck other men, she's not going to respect you.
01:25:42.000 She can't respect you if somebody else is fucking her.
01:25:45.000 It's just not going to work.
01:25:47.000 It's just a biology.
01:25:51.000 I hate to do this, but you can see it in the dynamic in the way that they deal with each other.
01:25:56.000 Because if it was me, there's no way my woman would be even arguing with no other man.
01:26:01.000 Whether it's debating, no type of shit.
01:26:03.000 My woman wouldn't be here arguing with nobody about nothing.
01:26:06.000 But the fact that she's even doing that shows a lack of Disrespect that she has for what's my guy's name?
01:26:17.000 Destiny.
01:26:19.000 Right?
01:26:19.000 And so, I mean, the writing is on the wall on that one.
01:26:22.000 You kind of seen that coming, but yeah, it's just not going to work.
01:26:26.000 They can't respect you.
01:26:28.000 Number one, if you don't have boundaries, they can't respect you.
01:26:31.000 If they fuck another man, they can't respect you.
01:26:33.000 And number two, three, or whatever, women can't have too many people in her ear.
01:26:39.000 There can only be one man in a woman's ear.
01:26:42.000 If one guy...
01:26:43.000 Okay, so you have this woman.
01:26:46.000 Strong man here.
01:26:47.000 Strong man here.
01:26:48.000 This guy has his program.
01:26:49.000 This guy has his program.
01:26:51.000 Both of them in her ear.
01:26:52.000 She's going to be confused.
01:26:53.000 Yeah.
01:26:54.000 And so she's going to start causing problems.
01:26:57.000 It's just not going to work.
01:26:58.000 That's like her ex.
01:26:58.000 You got a woman, you fucking your girl.
01:27:01.000 You let your woman go out and fuck and do all this shit.
01:27:03.000 He fucking your girl and talking in her ear while she's vulnerable.
01:27:07.000 She's naked and vulnerable.
01:27:09.000 He's spitting in her ear and talking good shit in her ear.
01:27:11.000 She going back to lay with you.
01:27:13.000 What do you think is going to happen eventually?
01:27:17.000 He has your girl, your woman at her most vulnerable planting seeds in her fucking head.
01:27:23.000 Stop letting women fucking...
01:27:26.000 Play y'all with this open shit.
01:27:28.000 Like, it don't work.
01:27:29.000 It's not gonna work.
01:27:29.000 It's not gonna work.
01:27:30.000 So let's say, like the Superchilder said earlier, I want to have my girl closed on her end, but I want to be open on my end.
01:27:38.000 Be careful.
01:27:39.000 Be careful.
01:27:40.000 As a guy who's done that before, you know, sneaky and not sneaky, typically when women accept that, typically when women accept that, I don't want to say that there's ulterior motives but they kind of almost don't really care about you.
01:28:02.000 Now, right, now if they're coming into the gate like that, then cool, but sometimes you can convince a woman to let you step out, right, that may care about you and that love you.
01:28:10.000 However, women are very territorial, almost more territorial than men.
01:28:14.000 And I have a daughter, so I know, you can see this as, you can see it with little kids, little girls, right?
01:28:20.000 You ever see these videos where the dad is hugging on the daughter and the mom come in touch and the fucking daughter freak out and shit?
01:28:29.000 They come touch...
01:28:30.000 The mom come touch the dad or put the hand on the dad and the girl...
01:28:34.000 The little girl starts screaming and beating up the mom and shit.
01:28:36.000 Women are territorial like that.
01:28:38.000 And when you are...
01:28:44.000 We're good to go.
01:29:03.000 If you do get your woman to accept it, and it hurts her, just know that you're not going to have the same woman.
01:29:10.000 I've had to deal with this before.
01:29:12.000 You're not going to have the same woman that you once had.
01:29:14.000 That woman who had that glow in her eyes, because she's dealing with pain.
01:29:17.000 She's watching the man that...
01:29:18.000 You know, she's laying up with, she's invested into, she's, you know, the anxiety and the worry.
01:29:23.000 Especially if you didn't come into the relationship like that.
01:29:25.000 Especially if you didn't come into the relationship like that.
01:29:28.000 She's going through damage and when we go through pain and hurt, we harden ourselves.
01:29:33.000 And the people who hurt us, although we may stick by them if they provide us value, especially women, resentment starts to build up.
01:29:43.000 I don't want to say it's not sustainable because it is, but you just have to be careful.
01:29:47.000 The thing is, with a lot of guys, they don't understand.
01:29:49.000 Now, if you know, you know, but a lot of guys, they don't understand.
01:29:52.000 You may not have that same woman that you met that have that glow in her eyes.
01:29:55.000 And so you don't realize in five years that she's changed.
01:29:58.000 And she don't suck your dick with as much enthusiasm as she used to.
01:30:02.000 And that bothers you now.
01:30:03.000 You don't even know what's going on.
01:30:05.000 Not what that does.
01:30:07.000 What that do.
01:30:07.000 That make you behave differently.
01:30:09.000 It makes you behave in a different type of way because you don't know what's going on.
01:30:11.000 Why you not doing this?
01:30:12.000 Why you not doing this?
01:30:13.000 You worried.
01:30:13.000 You anxious.
01:30:14.000 You see?
01:30:15.000 She starts treating you a little bit differently.
01:30:17.000 She don't put in as much as she used to.
01:30:20.000 Because it's not as safe as it once was for her.
01:30:24.000 Because she had to go through these feelings and emotions.
01:30:27.000 I've been here, I know.
01:30:28.000 You know, on both sides, lying in, hey, this is what I'm going to do.
01:30:32.000 If you provide them value, you're taking care of them, they're going to fuck with you.
01:30:35.000 They're going to look the other way.
01:30:36.000 But it's not going to be the same.
01:30:38.000 Especially, and you know, that's a really fantastic point that you brought up, that Especially if you came in a certain way.
01:30:43.000 Y'all came in monogamous.
01:30:44.000 And then you try to do it.
01:30:45.000 And then you try to do it later.
01:30:47.000 Yeah.
01:30:48.000 That's another thing with them threesomes, man.
01:30:52.000 You want to talk about threesomes?
01:30:53.000 Tell me about threesomes.
01:30:55.000 Because niggas think threesomes are so sweet and shit.
01:30:56.000 I hate doing that shit, bro.
01:30:58.000 Especially with your main girl.
01:30:59.000 If you're going to do that shit, if you're going to do that shit, man, find you two random chicks.
01:31:05.000 But to introduce you, that shit is traumatic.
01:31:07.000 And they're going to get you back.
01:31:08.000 But I'm telling you, man.
01:31:09.000 Yeah, they will.
01:31:10.000 Just think about it.
01:31:11.000 Men think that women are not human beings and they don't hurt and feel pain and jealousy.
01:31:17.000 Just like if you saw your chick fucking somebody else, a woman gets the same feelings.
01:31:23.000 And what happens is they have to deal with that.
01:31:25.000 And they have to harden themselves.
01:31:26.000 And they have to protect themselves.
01:31:28.000 And that's going to manifest itself in the way that she treats you.
01:31:31.000 And so a lot of the times you get guys who are, nowadays, they're turning their women out to these threesomes and shit.
01:31:36.000 And the woman is doing it to keep the dude and shit like that.
01:31:39.000 She really don't want to do it.
01:31:40.000 Yeah, she don't want to do it, bro.
01:31:41.000 She's traumatized.
01:31:42.000 You're not going to have the same woman that you had before that.
01:31:44.000 Yeah.
01:31:44.000 And the minute you think about women, on my series of my podcast, The Captain Saver Bro Show, the first episode is called The Evil Nature of Women.
01:31:52.000 The Evil Nature of Women.
01:31:53.000 Okay.
01:31:53.000 Men have an evil nature, too, which is violence and force, right?
01:31:57.000 Yep.
01:31:57.000 Women, their evil is on a whole other level.
01:32:00.000 And I talk about stuff like this, that when women pay you back, the things that you do to them, the things that you make them feel, they get you back.
01:32:07.000 But it's in a way that you can't see it, and when you see it, it's too late.
01:32:10.000 You see it, it manifests itself in, you know, women go to...
01:32:15.000 When you ever see a woman going to court, cleaning a motherfucker out, and trying to get everything he got, there's like...
01:32:21.000 In her mind, she feels like she's been wrong somewhere and she's trying to get some get back.
01:32:25.000 Yeah.
01:32:26.000 Because somebody that got and did something to her, whether he cheated on her or made her feel pain.
01:32:30.000 And so they get you back in ways that you have no idea.
01:32:33.000 I've seen chicks like, you know their boyfriend cheat on them and shit, right?
01:32:37.000 Their boyfriend cheat on them or their man cheat on them.
01:32:39.000 They go fuck their favorite rapper.
01:32:41.000 Yeah.
01:32:42.000 Or, you know, they go fuck the dude Plug or something like that.
01:32:45.000 They'll put on Instagram.
01:32:45.000 You know, put on Instagram or...
01:32:47.000 Literally, chicks said...
01:32:47.000 My boyfriend cheated on me, so his favorite rapper flew me out.
01:32:51.000 Bro!
01:32:51.000 Crazy.
01:32:52.000 But they're conniving like that.
01:32:54.000 But see, guys, they think, oh, well, you know, I'm gonna just go cheat and she gonna fuck with me.
01:32:58.000 Nah, you gonna deal with that.
01:33:00.000 You're going to deal with that.
01:33:03.000 That's a lot of the times I don't like about certain things in our space is that we don't talk about stuff like that enough.
01:33:10.000 We set our young guys up for failure and they don't know what's coming behind some of the behavior.
01:33:15.000 And as an older guy, now if you would have talked to me 10 years ago, I would have been like, fuck these hoes.
01:33:20.000 But, you know, there's shit that come behind it.
01:33:22.000 Yeah.
01:33:23.000 No, I'm really glad that we're having this discussion.
01:33:25.000 Women have a very evil nature.
01:33:27.000 Like, us as men, we have an evil nature, right?
01:33:30.000 The masculine evil.
01:33:31.000 Like, we can...
01:33:31.000 Somebody come in here, right?
01:33:33.000 And I'm trying to harm...
01:33:34.000 We can smoke them and blow their brains out and go to sleep at night, right?
01:33:37.000 Yeah.
01:33:37.000 Or if we feel like somebody wronged us, we can commit violence.
01:33:40.000 Whereas a woman sees a guy commit, it traumatizes them, right?
01:33:44.000 They don't understand it.
01:33:45.000 We understand that level of evil.
01:33:47.000 Women have another evil and it's conniving.
01:33:49.000 That's their gift and their curse.
01:33:52.000 It manifests itself in manipulation.
01:33:56.000 You know, underhandedness, like poisoning your food.
01:33:59.000 Like, you got women, especially back in the days, like the man beat on them and shit, they put eye drops in the food and shit.
01:34:05.000 You know, or poison, kill them slow.
01:34:07.000 You know, or put extra salt.
01:34:09.000 They know you got high blood pressure, so they put extra salt in your food.
01:34:12.000 And they don't feel bad.
01:34:13.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:34:14.000 Your girl may be cooking for you, spitting in your food, or putting eye drops in your food, or putting extra salt in your shit.
01:34:21.000 Or you'll see a woman say, oh, he graped me.
01:34:24.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:34:25.000 You know, it was one I did an episode about how the man did the woman wrong or some shit.
01:34:32.000 And so she lied and told the daughters...
01:34:35.000 That their dad sexually assaulted them.
01:34:39.000 And so they grew up their whole lives.
01:34:41.000 That chick trap do that to that Chicago rapper, Dulo.
01:34:44.000 Exactly.
01:34:45.000 Like that shit.
01:34:46.000 That's evil.
01:34:47.000 Like men, we're like, what the fuck?
01:34:48.000 Like how could you do that?
01:34:50.000 He just won a lawsuit.
01:34:52.000 He won a lawsuit.
01:34:53.000 I think more men should stand up and not let women do them like that.
01:34:57.000 But what I'm saying is that level of evil, like women can do that.
01:35:00.000 You don't see many women saying, oh, she was so wrong.
01:35:03.000 They understand that level of evil.
01:35:05.000 Just like, it's real shit.
01:35:07.000 It's almost spooky when you think about it.
01:35:09.000 It's my first episode that I did.
01:35:11.000 You know what, that's a good point.
01:35:12.000 I've never once seen a woman say, oh damn, that bitch is fucked up.
01:35:15.000 That's right!
01:35:16.000 Damn!
01:35:17.000 Wait, let's let her finish.
01:35:20.000 When we see us, like, let's say somebody steals something from somebody and we see a dude bust him aside the head.
01:35:27.000 Like, we understand it.
01:35:29.000 We don't understand their curses and their gifts like they do.
01:35:29.000 They don't.
01:35:33.000 Like, when you see these chicks, Cleaning these dudes out and taking them for everything they got and making their lives a living hell through the divorce machine.
01:35:43.000 You don't see women like, oh, that's so wrong.
01:35:45.000 That's so, like, how could you do that?
01:35:46.000 That's us, like, what the fuck is going on?
01:35:48.000 That's the evil nature.
01:35:49.000 And that's their strength against you.
01:35:51.000 And I'm always trying to warn guys to be careful when you're dealing with that.
01:35:55.000 Because you cannot beat that unless you use physical voice, but you don't want to go to jail.
01:36:00.000 Like, you can't, there's no beating that.
01:36:02.000 The only way to beat that is physically.
01:36:03.000 So just be careful.
01:36:06.000 When you hurt people, Women in particular, they're going to get you back.
01:36:11.000 And the system allows them to do you like that.
01:36:14.000 So this is wisdom because this comes with age and experience.
01:36:18.000 You mentioned a lot of stuff that I want to say whenever someone's head.
01:36:24.000 But just to bring this home as well, even in the Bible it talks about women scorn.
01:36:28.000 Because over a period of time, us as men, we just take actions.
01:36:31.000 We don't understand how it affects women.
01:36:34.000 And over time, us being men doing what we do, they're feeling pain consistently.
01:36:38.000 So she might love you at the very beginning, but over time, oh, he cheated again.
01:36:42.000 Oh, he's with another girl.
01:36:43.000 He's doing this and that.
01:36:44.000 It builds up.
01:36:45.000 And when it finally breaks out, it's in great accusations.
01:36:49.000 It's in spiteful actions.
01:36:50.000 So you never know how it can manifest.
01:36:52.000 That's a very good point.
01:36:53.000 Yeah.
01:36:54.000 And I'll say, like, you know, because this is the dark side of, like, you know, you want to live this player lifestyle, you want to have a man growing, you want to have other women, you're going to have to deal with some backlash to that to some degree, man.
01:37:03.000 I mean, you know, especially if you came in and, like, y'all were monogamous and maybe something changed, your values shot up, whatever the fuck it is, and then, you know, man, I want chicks.
01:37:11.000 And then you tell her, You're right.
01:37:13.000 She's not going to be the same woman that you met.
01:37:16.000 And she is going to have a little bit of resentment because I want guys to understand that even though for us, sex is just a physical act, women don't look at it like that because I've noticed with females, they don't really have empathy to the male experience.
01:37:27.000 And what I mean by that is they don't give a fuck about your problems, but they also don't give a fuck about your successes.
01:37:31.000 What I mean by that is if you go out, if you go and you have sex with another girl, you don't have any feeling for her.
01:37:37.000 You don't give a fuck.
01:37:38.000 But women don't understand that because for them, If they go have sex with another guy, they're attached to that guy.
01:37:44.000 That's why when a girl cheats, a lot of times they're like, I'm just gonna break it off.
01:37:47.000 They can't live with themselves a lot of times when they do that shit.
01:37:49.000 I'm sure Melina, she might have been doing this shit and she was like, man, I can't live with myself.
01:37:52.000 She broke it off, right?
01:37:53.000 She couldn't do it long term.
01:37:54.000 So with women, when they see you have sex with other girls, they look at it through the female lens and they're like...
01:37:59.000 Oh my god, like, he might leave me.
01:38:01.000 Like, he had sex with another girl, he might leave me, even though she doesn't know.
01:38:04.000 For us, it's just taking a piss.
01:38:05.000 But for them, when they have sex with another dude, they're leaving.
01:38:07.000 It's out.
01:38:08.000 It's a wrap.
01:38:08.000 So like, damn, I'm gonna lose all this, and you had mentioned that before.
01:38:11.000 So yeah, she's gonna, you're not gonna have that same girl.
01:38:14.000 And then the other thing with the threesomes, because you niggas like to, oh, I wanna put my main girl on a threesome.
01:38:18.000 Bro, you're gonna slowly take her innocence away from her, bro, by doing that shit.
01:38:21.000 Assuming you didn't get a slut.
01:38:23.000 So guys start with monogamy, right?
01:38:23.000 It's funny.
01:38:26.000 And then they say, oh, what's your podcast?
01:38:28.000 I could cheat?
01:38:29.000 I'm going to do a cheat code.
01:38:30.000 Threesomes with my girl.
01:38:31.000 But they don't realize this actually is going to hurt them.
01:38:34.000 Because again, the girl is going to say, okay, I want to please my man.
01:38:40.000 I'll do this.
01:38:41.000 I really don't want to do this, man.
01:38:42.000 This is fucked up.
01:38:43.000 I think it's terrible, but I'll do it for him.
01:38:45.000 But then when they are put into that scenario where they see their man fucking another girl, it's like, wow.
01:38:51.000 This shit hurt me.
01:38:52.000 It's like a knife in the heart.
01:38:53.000 When you blow up 20 years later and you're on TV and all this shit and she need a bag.
01:38:57.000 Oh, he forced me to...
01:38:58.000 Yeah, oh yeah.
01:38:59.000 You know, he sex trafficking and shit.
01:39:01.000 Surviving XYZ, yeah.
01:39:03.000 So you gotta be careful with that shit, man.
01:39:05.000 Just be careful.
01:39:05.000 You know, like you say, you don't want to take that innocence away from your woman.
01:39:09.000 Yeah, bro.
01:39:10.000 Especially when they don't like girls.
01:39:11.000 And let me tell y'all something, bro.
01:39:12.000 These girls are fucking liars.
01:39:14.000 99% of them don't like other women.
01:39:16.000 They don't, bro.
01:39:17.000 They really don't.
01:39:18.000 They'll sit there and say, oh, I like girls.
01:39:20.000 They want to be involved in a threesome to have some semblance of control again.
01:39:25.000 Because they're like, damn, I'm not in control no more.
01:39:27.000 Even though they're aroused by it a little bit, they're scared by it as well.
01:39:30.000 So when they say, oh, let me be involved.
01:39:32.000 Let me pick the girl.
01:39:33.000 I want to be in it.
01:39:34.000 Bro, she's doing that shit for some level of control, not because she's aroused by it.
01:39:37.000 She don't want you to pick the chick.
01:39:40.000 And she know you're going to pick somebody that look better than her, that you may like better, so she's going to want to pick the chick that she feels the safest with.
01:39:47.000 But y'all be careful with that.
01:39:49.000 It's fun and have your fun, but just know that everything you do, man, comes with it.
01:39:54.000 There's a downside to everything you do.
01:39:56.000 And I'd like to, on my platform, I like to warn guys.
01:39:58.000 No, I'm glad they were having this conversation.
01:40:00.000 Play, have your fun, but just know, I played and I got a lot of scars from that, bro.
01:40:06.000 Yo, bro, bro, let me ask you this.
01:40:08.000 So, I have this, like, theory or thought from my experiences where, in your opinion, what's the best scenario for a guy to be in?
01:40:16.000 Single?
01:40:17.000 Multiple girls?
01:40:19.000 Or, with one chick that understands his lifestyle and does this fun thing on the side?
01:40:22.000 Or, he's more like...
01:40:24.000 I'll have a girl, but I'm going to sell her a dream and not tell her the truth.
01:40:28.000 And she's in La La Land.
01:40:30.000 I'm going to do my thing on the side.
01:40:31.000 What's the best scenario you think for a guy to be in?
01:40:32.000 If he want hosts, if he want to play...
01:40:34.000 Just to be happy and not have a lot of issues, you think?
01:40:38.000 It just all depends on the guy.
01:40:40.000 I think we all have our little phases.
01:40:41.000 But if you want to date around, just be real with the women that you fuck with.
01:40:46.000 Hey, this is what I'm doing.
01:40:48.000 You know, and if you're dating women young enough, they typically don't give a fuck like that either way.
01:40:53.000 That's usually like when you start to get up at age, chicks start to get 28, 29, they need to find that one.
01:40:58.000 They're like, hell no.
01:40:59.000 I would always say just be honest.
01:41:03.000 I would always say just be as honest as possible.
01:41:08.000 And I know you guys be like, oh, you know, women don't.
01:41:11.000 Can't handle it.
01:41:12.000 No.
01:41:12.000 It's funny.
01:41:13.000 I'm honest.
01:41:14.000 Fresh isn't, but like...
01:41:16.000 Stop lying, bro.
01:41:17.000 I'm telling you.
01:41:17.000 Your chicks, they're going to get you.
01:41:19.000 Well, the thing is...
01:41:21.000 Fresh is sell a dream guy.
01:41:22.000 I used to be like that, too.
01:41:24.000 No, no, but okay.
01:41:25.000 I do it in a smooth way, though.
01:41:27.000 I mean, I could still get fucked up in a way, but it's more like they know what I'm doing.
01:41:31.000 Because, for example, I'll see a chick, we buy whatever, we do our thing, and then she knows I'm out with other people.
01:41:38.000 I'm not saying I'm not.
01:41:39.000 I'm just saying I didn't say anything.
01:41:41.000 So she has to come up with her head.
01:41:42.000 Oh, he's actually out there doing stuff for other people.
01:41:44.000 All right, I get what it is.
01:41:45.000 I don't tell them I'm fucking with the girls.
01:41:47.000 And I don't want to be like the morality police and shit too, but you got to think, man, a lot of...
01:41:52.000 And I'm...
01:41:54.000 When I see a lot of chicks...
01:41:55.000 But you lose a lot of girls, to be honest.
01:41:57.000 Let's also keep it a thousand.
01:41:59.000 I lose so many girls that I know if I had run Fresh's Game, I'd be like, damn, I'd have these chicks, man.
01:42:05.000 You can get a lot more, but at the end of the day, at what cost?
01:42:09.000 Like I say, you get these chicks, you fuck with the wrong one.
01:42:14.000 Like they say, hell have no fury like a woman scoring, right?
01:42:17.000 You fuck around and get that one, and she'll ruin your fucking life.
01:42:21.000 I've seen where I've done this path, and the girls really hurt, and I'm like, damn.
01:42:28.000 I could see over a period of time, if I stayed and done this path...
01:42:30.000 Fresh makes girls cry, man.
01:42:32.000 This nigga be making girls cry, bro.
01:42:36.000 This nigga be making girls cry, bro.
01:42:39.000 I'll tell you this, though.
01:42:41.000 Never forget me, though.
01:42:42.000 Yeah, we know!
01:42:43.000 This nigga be making bitches cry, bro.
01:42:45.000 You gotta make your girl...
01:42:47.000 They don't see it coming.
01:42:48.000 They gotta cry, though.
01:42:49.000 You gotta make them cry.
01:42:50.000 You know, make them laugh, too, at the same time.
01:42:52.000 You have to be the source of the emotion.
01:42:54.000 I'm like a roller coaster, up and down.
01:42:56.000 But I'll tell you this, though.
01:42:57.000 For me, I always lead them, like, on some level, happy.
01:43:01.000 Because even though I'm doing kind of shit that's kind of, like, not said...
01:43:06.000 The experience I have with me is amazing.
01:43:08.000 So even though I'm doing, like, cha-panicines or whatever, I live with a good experience each and every time.
01:43:14.000 Yeah.
01:43:15.000 The thing, too, is, like, when you damage the women, like, when you see these guys, it's like a full circle thing.
01:43:21.000 And this is why, not that I'm anti-that, because, you know, play on, player.
01:43:24.000 But you just have to be mindful.
01:43:26.000 Like, when you see women that taking advantage of a guy like, what's his name, Neo or Neon?
01:43:31.000 Neon, yeah, yeah.
01:43:32.000 Neo, too, by the way.
01:43:33.000 That...
01:43:34.000 Comes from somewhere.
01:43:35.000 She has dealt with a guy like me before.
01:43:37.000 Yeah, probably yeah.
01:43:38.000 To the point to where she's like now...
01:43:41.000 I'm going to get mine.
01:43:42.000 I'm not going to let nobody take advantage of me and I'm going to get you first.
01:43:45.000 And so they seek out guys like that.
01:43:48.000 That comes from, you know, dealing with...
01:43:50.000 Past trauma.
01:43:51.000 Pieces of shit like...
01:43:52.000 Nah, I'm just kidding.
01:43:56.000 I'm fucking with you.
01:43:57.000 But that comes with...
01:43:59.000 Drake sold the dream too.
01:44:00.000 Shit.
01:44:01.000 What?
01:44:01.000 I was a master at that.
01:44:03.000 And not only did I sell the dream, I'd clean you out.
01:44:06.000 Like...
01:44:07.000 Run the pockets, ho!
01:44:09.000 Listen, man.
01:44:10.000 Yeah.
01:44:10.000 I used to, like, you couldn't come around me, like, not taking care of me.
01:44:14.000 Not on no bum shit, but, like, you had to, like, come with it to fuck with me.
01:44:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:44:19.000 You know, you had to, like, so it'll be nine months.
01:44:22.000 Bitch done gave me everything.
01:44:23.000 You know?
01:44:24.000 I don't give her nothing.
01:44:25.000 But that's a mistake in itself because I got burned like that a lot, too.
01:44:28.000 Yeah.
01:44:28.000 Taken and taken and taken from women.
01:44:30.000 That was my major mistake as far as the game go, like, not giving the women a turn on her investment.
01:44:35.000 Ah.
01:44:35.000 Yeah.
01:44:36.000 That's how I got my heart broke the most.
01:44:38.000 Like, you know, dealing with pain and shit.
01:44:40.000 Because you'll have a woman going all in for you for a year.
01:44:42.000 She's doing everything and, you know, buying you the Xbox.
01:44:45.000 And I had a chick, man.
01:44:48.000 I had this one chick.
01:44:48.000 She used to go and stand in the line.
01:44:50.000 This was when the joys came out.
01:44:52.000 Oh, shit.
01:44:53.000 Damn.
01:44:53.000 You had a chick going to pick up the J's for you?
01:44:55.000 On Saturday mornings?
01:44:56.000 Oh, shit.
01:44:58.000 This was when the 12s came out.
01:45:00.000 2004, the 12s was out.
01:45:01.000 She came and she got every one of them.
01:45:03.000 Standing in line.
01:45:04.000 You know, and it was crazy.
01:45:06.000 The mobs and all.
01:45:06.000 And got me every pair of them.
01:45:09.000 Treated me.
01:45:10.000 Give me damn that half of her checks.
01:45:11.000 Each of those $120.
01:45:12.000 Listen, she used to give me damn that half of her checks.
01:45:15.000 All type of shit.
01:45:16.000 Everything I wanted.
01:45:17.000 But she ended up cheating on me, right?
01:45:19.000 This is why.
01:45:20.000 Okay.
01:45:21.000 People can learn from this.
01:45:23.000 Players go through it too.
01:45:24.000 This is why they do so much to get you, but when you don't give them back, they get tired of it.
01:45:31.000 Eventually, they get tired of it.
01:45:33.000 It's like, what am I doing?
01:45:35.000 I'm doing this for nothing.
01:45:36.000 He's fucking with other chicks.
01:45:38.000 He, you know, he's fucking with other chicks.
01:45:39.000 He's fucking, you know, I'm not, I can barely get in touch with him.
01:45:43.000 You know, he's not treating me the way that I want to be treating him.
01:45:46.000 And you know, in the beginning, I position myself like I'm the guy that can give you all of this, right?
01:45:50.000 But then I'm not.
01:45:51.000 So I'm making you do everything and you just slowly but surely invest in yourself into me.
01:45:56.000 Eventually they wake up and you say, you know what?
01:45:59.000 This not working for me no more.
01:46:01.000 Chick called me up.
01:46:02.000 I never forget this.
01:46:03.000 I'm playing the Xbox.
01:46:03.000 I was playing True Crime 2.
01:46:05.000 I never forget this shit.
01:46:07.000 I'm playing True Crime 2.
01:46:08.000 What year is this?
01:46:09.000 2005 now?
01:46:10.000 I never forget this.
01:46:12.000 Playing True Crime 2.
01:46:13.000 She called me.
01:46:14.000 She called my phone.
01:46:15.000 This was not sales.
01:46:16.000 Just called the house phone.
01:46:17.000 She called me and she was like, listen, I gotta talk to you.
01:46:20.000 She was like, uh, this the end.
01:46:22.000 I'm like, what you mean?
01:46:24.000 She was like, I can't do this no more.
01:46:25.000 I'm like, nah, man.
01:46:26.000 Nah, come back.
01:46:27.000 She's like, nah, it's over with.
01:46:28.000 So I'm like, you know.
01:46:30.000 So I'm like, uh, she was like, yeah, I can't.
01:46:33.000 I'm moving on.
01:46:34.000 So I'm like devastated.
01:46:35.000 Like, what the fuck?
01:46:37.000 How long have y'all been seeing each other?
01:46:38.000 Like a year.
01:46:39.000 Like a year.
01:46:40.000 Um, So I'm like, what you mean?
01:46:42.000 And she's like, yeah, I can't do it.
01:46:44.000 She's like, I got somebody else now.
01:46:46.000 So instantly, what you mean you got somebody else?
01:46:49.000 Like, what the fuck you talking about?
01:46:51.000 Well, I've been seeing this guy.
01:46:52.000 She told me the whole truth.
01:46:53.000 I've been seeing this guy.
01:46:55.000 You know, I've been seeing this guy for, you know, a few months, and, you know, that's what I'm doing.
01:47:00.000 I'm talking about like, I was crushed.
01:47:03.000 Because here I am, I don't want to say taking advantage of this woman, but like here I am like having my way.
01:47:07.000 And when chicks treat you good like that, you get attached to that shit.
01:47:11.000 Like you get attached to the treatment, you get attached to the validation, you get attached to, you know, chick doing whatever for you and giving you the best sex and all of this shit.
01:47:18.000 And when they take that away from you, It pains you.
01:47:23.000 I got a lot of scars like that.
01:47:24.000 It wasn't until later that I realized when people invest into you, you have to give them what they invest.
01:47:30.000 You have to give them a return.
01:47:32.000 You're not supposed to go balls to the wall, but women are with you for a reason.
01:47:36.000 Women are not with you because you're fucking cute.
01:47:39.000 Facts.
01:47:40.000 That's a fact.
01:47:42.000 There's some type of reason behind it.
01:47:45.000 And when they are giving to you and you're not giving to them, eventually they'll leave you.
01:47:51.000 See, I damn near cried, bro.
01:47:54.000 That shit fucked me up really bad.
01:47:56.000 Because it wasn't like...
01:47:57.000 You know, a lot of guys, when they get cheated on, you can kind of see it.
01:48:01.000 Like, the bitch ain't been fucking you for the last six months.
01:48:03.000 She a headache.
01:48:04.000 She disrespecting you.
01:48:05.000 So it's like the writing is already on the wall.
01:48:07.000 But this is somebody who's like...
01:48:08.000 And not only that, I already know the fact that she stood in line for you.
01:48:12.000 Because I used to collect Jordans back in the day.
01:48:13.000 The fact that she stood in line for you on Saturday mornings, picked you up all the 12s, which are very sought after sneakers.
01:48:19.000 Yeah.
01:48:20.000 I already know she was in a space in her mind where she would do everything for you.
01:48:25.000 Anything.
01:48:25.000 So that was a girl that you could call and be like, hey, I need this and she'll do it.
01:48:29.000 She don't say why or whatever.
01:48:31.000 She don't say how.
01:48:32.000 Okay, I'll find a way.
01:48:34.000 And to lose that?
01:48:35.000 It's hard to find that.
01:48:36.000 Yo.
01:48:36.000 Yeah.
01:48:37.000 That's painful.
01:48:38.000 That's very painful.
01:48:39.000 I understand.
01:48:39.000 Last thing for me, because we've got to wrap this up.
01:48:42.000 How do you navigate, for example, because obviously we're in the era of simps, where niggas legit will buy or anything, pay for box, all that stuff.
01:48:50.000 How do you overcome niggas paying for box when you don't?
01:48:55.000 For example, let's say there's 10 baddies out there, right?
01:48:58.000 Out of 10, like 8, get paid for a box.
01:49:00.000 How do you get the box without paying for it in your own way?
01:49:03.000 Because when you don't pay for it, it's genuine.
01:49:07.000 And they still want something genuine.
01:49:08.000 Like I said, women still want something genuine.
01:49:11.000 They still want love.
01:49:12.000 They still want, you know...
01:49:15.000 A mutual attraction.
01:49:16.000 They still want quote-unquote real.
01:49:19.000 Like, you know how to say, I just want something real.
01:49:20.000 When you pay for it, you don't get that.
01:49:22.000 So whether you pay for it or not, it's still going to be a player.
01:49:25.000 So every guy right now that's buying pussy and buying women and shopping, taking them shopping, there's a player somewhere that ain't doing none of that.
01:49:33.000 And she feels something with him, something real.
01:49:36.000 Look at the movie Casino.
01:49:38.000 Everybody watch this movie for the, like, you remember the movie Casino?
01:49:41.000 Yeah, I do.
01:49:42.000 Um, uh, What's my guy named?
01:49:44.000 Robert De Niro?
01:49:45.000 Sam Rothstein?
01:49:46.000 Everybody watched that movie for like the gangster factor.
01:49:49.000 They don't see the relationship part of it.
01:49:52.000 How you have this guy who has the world.
01:49:55.000 Handsome connections to the streets.
01:49:58.000 On top of the world.
01:49:59.000 Casino.
01:50:00.000 She appears to be alpha, but what was she doing?
01:50:03.000 He tried to buy this bitch.
01:50:04.000 Like, hey, you know, I can take you off the streets.
01:50:07.000 I can give you everything you want.
01:50:08.000 What was she doing?
01:50:10.000 Sneaking off to some lowlife pimp who was making her feel something.
01:50:13.000 So you can try to buy it all you want to.
01:50:16.000 You know, you don't have to.
01:50:16.000 If you're a guy that's not big tricking or whatever, you ain't going to really have no problems because women don't respect tricks anyway.
01:50:23.000 Because me and Myron don't pay for bucks right at all.
01:50:25.000 We don't ever pay girls for bucks.
01:50:27.000 Everyone in Miami does, bro.
01:50:28.000 Everyone in Miami does.
01:50:29.000 Holy fuck.
01:50:29.000 So what I have to do is kind of like come into it from an experience standpoint.
01:50:33.000 So for example, not the average experience of going to a club or getting a dinner.
01:50:37.000 It's more like I'm going to take on things that are, for example, Dave& Buster's.
01:50:41.000 Or for example, maybe like a random pop-up shop where you just go to, chill, walk in the park.
01:50:45.000 Shit like that.
01:50:46.000 Because that's an experience that's different than going to a club, all that shit.
01:50:49.000 So from that standpoint, it's all I get them kind of like in my circle because I get them experience that they're not used to.
01:50:54.000 But it's not even about...
01:50:55.000 It's a lot of people think...
01:50:56.000 It's not even about that.
01:50:57.000 The experience they're having is a genuine connection with another human being.
01:51:02.000 That's the experience.
01:51:03.000 And despite how promiscuous a woman may seem, or she is, despite the shit that she's talking, they all still want and desire that.
01:51:12.000 And the person that can act like they're giving them that is going to have it all.
01:51:16.000 Now, of course, a woman's going to go where...
01:51:19.000 Like, if you're throwing some money at a hole, she's going to take it.
01:51:22.000 You know?
01:51:22.000 But...
01:51:23.000 You're still going to out-win the guy.
01:51:27.000 If you come in genuine with who you are, you're still going to out-win the guy.
01:51:31.000 You've got a lot of guys that trick Cope and say, oh, you've got to pay one way, and that's bullshit.
01:51:35.000 That's bullshit.
01:51:35.000 What are your thoughts on...
01:51:37.000 You said you used to live here in Miami, so I'm sure you're familiar with this.
01:51:42.000 Bro, everybody that we know that has some money, they all fucking pay for box, bro.
01:51:47.000 It's fucking wild.
01:51:48.000 When I was ripping and running and running wild, all my homies did that.
01:51:53.000 All of them.
01:51:54.000 Bro, it's crazy.
01:51:55.000 Had I not had my dad teach me different, I probably would have been doing the same thing if I was taught that way.
01:52:00.000 Yeah.
01:52:00.000 My dad caught me early and was like, that's not how you do it.
01:52:02.000 It's crazy how many dudes...
01:52:04.000 That's not the way to go.
01:52:04.000 And let's keep it real with the passport bro movement.
01:52:06.000 A lot of guys just do it because it's like, bro, fuck it, I'll just go pay for boxes for bad bitches in Columbia or some shit that's cheaper.
01:52:12.000 But it's like, to me, I look at it like...
01:52:14.000 Bro, it's just so wild to me how many dudes pay for boxing.
01:52:18.000 It's like a thing.
01:52:18.000 I mean, what are your general thoughts on it?
01:52:20.000 But this is the thing.
01:52:20.000 This is why I tell guys not to do that, because you cheat yourself.
01:52:24.000 You're buying the game, right?
01:52:26.000 So you're basically renting the cooperation, but when you're paying for it, you're not developing the skills that you need, because ultimately one day we want a family or something.
01:52:37.000 We want to be 50 with a companionship.
01:52:39.000 But when you cheat your way through life in the game by paying and paying and paying and paying and not getting that experience, what happens?
01:52:46.000 You're 50 years old, and I see it.
01:52:48.000 I have clients like that.
01:52:49.000 They've been tricks all their life.
01:52:50.000 Now they're 40.
01:52:51.000 They want something real.
01:52:52.000 They don't even know where to begin.
01:52:55.000 They got a lot of pussy.
01:52:56.000 Yeah.
01:52:56.000 But they don't know how to deal with women.
01:52:58.000 They don't know what to say.
01:52:58.000 Thousand body count, but don't know how to deal with women.
01:53:01.000 Don't know how to arouse women.
01:53:03.000 You get a woman in a relationship you committed to in a relationship, you don't even know how to arouse a woman naturally.
01:53:09.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:53:10.000 And this is the thing about women.
01:53:13.000 A trick...
01:53:14.000 A trick to a woman is the same thing as a whore is to us.
01:53:18.000 So how we look at a woman who's a whore who will give her value away just freely to any and everybody, they look at your resources like how we look at their purity in their vagina.
01:53:29.000 So if you are giving that away, yeah, she gonna take it just like we gonna fuck.
01:53:33.000 Just like we gonna fuck the chick that's giving it away, we gonna get our dick sucked, but are we gonna wife her?
01:53:38.000 No.
01:53:38.000 Is she gonna respect you if you just can come off, because she look at you like, How can I be safe with a guy that'll just give his money to it?
01:53:49.000 Like, how can I have, like, how can my kids be safe?
01:53:53.000 Or how can I have safety if this motherfucker is going to take our money and go trick it off?
01:53:58.000 Facts.
01:53:58.000 Yeah.
01:53:58.000 You see?
01:53:59.000 They're not going to say this to you.
01:54:00.000 They're going to come in this motherfucker in an hour and talk about, oh, I like a guy that can pay and do all this shit.
01:54:05.000 But deep down, they don't respect that.
01:54:07.000 That's why the trick, you don't never see the trick...
01:54:12.000 Whisk off in the sunset with this chick happy.
01:54:15.000 It don't work like that because they don't respect you.
01:54:18.000 It's funny, right, bro?
01:54:19.000 I have a friend and I'll set up double dates, right?
01:54:22.000 I'll bring two girls from here and he's so stuck on paying that the girl wants to fuck him.
01:54:28.000 She's DTF as fuck.
01:54:29.000 She's ready to go.
01:54:30.000 He'll still pay her.
01:54:31.000 I'm like, bro, it's set.
01:54:32.000 We went out, had a good vibe.
01:54:34.000 They're ready to smash.
01:54:35.000 I'm like, bro, why are you paying?
01:54:36.000 But again, because of his mentality, how he's doing this so often, he still pays.
01:54:40.000 I'm like, bro, what are you doing?
01:54:41.000 It's gonna catch up with you.
01:54:43.000 When you need the skills, when you need those skills to actually, you're not gonna have them.
01:54:49.000 It's scary, bro.
01:54:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I've always, I hate to use Pokemon, but I've always used the analogy, like if you play Pokemon back, do you play Pokemon back in the day?
01:54:55.000 No, no.
01:54:55.000 Probably not.
01:54:55.000 Alright, I'm the nerd here.
01:54:57.000 If you use Rare Candies.
01:54:58.000 I'm a gamer.
01:54:59.000 I got fucking two rigs, $3,500 a piece.
01:55:01.000 Oh, okay.
01:55:02.000 I'm a gamer like a motherfucker.
01:55:04.000 Well, Pokemon, right, back like red and blue version, you used to be able to do this cheat code, rare candy glitch, right?
01:55:09.000 Missing Go, right?
01:55:10.000 And you basically use rare candies to level up your Pokemon.
01:55:13.000 Well, what ends up happening if you use the rare candies to level up your Pokemon, whenever you fight them, they're not as strong.
01:55:18.000 But when you go and train and, like, fight the gym leaders and go in the grass and fight random Pokemon, whatever, those Pokemon have way stronger attack, special, defense, etc., than the Pokemon that you give the rare candy to level them up to 100.
01:55:29.000 So if you level them up through fighting, What ends up happening is your skill set and awareness and frame of female nature It's not worked.
01:55:46.000 And when it's not worked, it's atrophy.
01:55:48.000 And then you don't know how to deal with women in real life.
01:55:50.000 So then if you do get in a relationship, whatever, and the worst is when you've got money.
01:55:53.000 Yeah.
01:55:53.000 Because then she'll sell you the facade, get married to your dumb ass, tolerate you for a period of time, and then she's going to run away with everything because you never learn the rudimentary skills of, you know, how to get sex when she doesn't feel like it or, you know, well, obviously legally and shit.
01:56:05.000 But like, how to arouse her, how to get her attracted to you, how to actually get her to respect you.
01:56:09.000 A lot of guys don't learn this shit.
01:56:10.000 Let me say one.
01:56:12.000 Real quick, real quick.
01:56:13.000 Some niggas said, oh, first piece of box.
01:56:15.000 Nigga, if I was first piece of box, I would have been exposed months ago, bro.
01:56:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
01:56:19.000 In Miami, bro, that shit's common.
01:56:19.000 We would have been expected.
01:56:21.000 I'm just asking you because most people here in Miami do that shit.
01:56:23.000 And once and for all, bro, I wish, I guess, if these niggas, but you can't.
01:56:26.000 Yeah, you ain't gonna never, as popular as I am, you ain't gonna find one bitch to say I even bought her a drink and I wasn't fucking already.
01:56:32.000 Facts.
01:56:32.000 Like, I don't, but I was taught...
01:56:34.000 Early on, that's just something you don't do, and I was explaining why.
01:56:38.000 But let me say something to the guys that like to pay whores and shit, strippers.
01:56:44.000 Listen, if a woman will sell her body, man, you don't think she'll sell you at some point?
01:56:50.000 Think about that.
01:56:52.000 Look at everybody who's facing these false allegations and all this shit, right?
01:56:59.000 The majority of them, if you look at them.
01:57:03.000 Strippers, hoes, whores, OnlyFans, chicks, you know, sex workers and prostitutes, basically.
01:57:11.000 You're right.
01:57:12.000 Again, if she'll sell her body, you think she won't sell you.
01:57:16.000 Somebody, let's say you say the wrong shit, right?
01:57:19.000 Let's just say you was a guy who was going and paying strippers and shit like that.
01:57:23.000 They would have crossed you up a long time ago because it would have been nothing for them to come get one of these hoes whores.
01:57:27.000 One of these stripper hoes and give them, I'll give you $5,000 to say, you know, he clubbed you across the head five years ago.
01:57:36.000 And he lied like a motherfucker to take you down.
01:57:38.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:57:39.000 But you look at, like with Tate, there was women in his life that they came to that wasn't like that and they wouldn't fold on them for nothing.
01:57:48.000 But look at the women who brought those accusations against them guys.
01:57:52.000 Sluts.
01:57:52.000 What are they?
01:57:53.000 The big one, especially Emma Gabby.
01:57:55.000 Whore.
01:57:56.000 Whore.
01:57:56.000 Big whore.
01:57:57.000 They get paid.
01:57:58.000 You don't see chicks from the countryside and good chicks, you don't see them doing shit like that.
01:58:03.000 Look at the shit that's going through with these rappers and from the history of these rappers, these guys getting exposed and guys say this shit like, oh, well I just pay to keep them quiet.
01:58:12.000 That bitch don't give They don't care.
01:58:14.000 Bro, bro, look at Diddy.
01:58:17.000 I'm sure you pay people to keep it quiet.
01:58:18.000 To keep it quiet?
01:58:19.000 They don't care.
01:58:20.000 If I can get a bigger bag out of you...
01:58:22.000 Clout and money?
01:58:23.000 Come on, man.
01:58:24.000 So, that's just a trick, Kobe.
01:58:26.000 Like, oh, I just pay to keep him quiet and all that shit.
01:58:29.000 That's bullshit, because look at the guys who, look at all these rappers and all these celebrities who paid all these hoes to keep quiet and shit.
01:58:37.000 They write tell-all books and all types of shit.
01:58:40.000 You see?
01:58:41.000 So, you know, just be mindful of where you lay at.
01:58:44.000 I was going to ask you a question, Dre, because you mentioned, you know, about hoes and wanting love.
01:58:49.000 Do you think hoes deserve love?
01:58:51.000 Oh, man, that's crazy.
01:58:57.000 What's your take on that, man?
01:58:58.000 Do you think Hula deserves love, bro?
01:59:00.000 Because I've seen you on your show talk about it like, yo, you're real big on telling guys, don't commit to sex workers.
01:59:06.000 She's a stripper.
01:59:07.000 She on this type of shit.
01:59:08.000 Like you just said right now, because I've heard you say it before, if she sells her box, you don't think she'll sell you.
01:59:14.000 But do you think they deserve love in general?
01:59:18.000 Deserve is...
01:59:19.000 I can't tell somebody what they...
01:59:20.000 If she feel like she deserve it, cool.
01:59:22.000 What I say is this.
01:59:23.000 Objectively speaking, then.
01:59:25.000 What I say is this.
01:59:28.000 Nah, man.
01:59:32.000 But I don't want to sound like I'm not sensitive to other human beings because I am a human being at the end of the day.
01:59:40.000 And despite how dirtbaggish I've been in my life at one point, But then when I think about it, I didn't deserve, back then, I didn't deserve a good woman who treated, I didn't deserve that.
01:59:50.000 Like, you know, when I'm in the middle of the run and fucking hoes and, you know, doing this and doing that, I didn't deserve a good woman.
01:59:55.000 So, I mean, now...
01:59:57.000 Do you think you deserved that chick that bought you the Jordans back then?
02:00:00.000 Back then?
02:00:01.000 Nah, man, because I damaged her.
02:00:02.000 Right.
02:00:02.000 Nah, I didn't, no, I did not.
02:00:04.000 I damaged her.
02:00:04.000 I didn't deserve that.
02:00:06.000 Takes a big man to be able to admit that shit, bro.
02:00:08.000 Real talk.
02:00:08.000 If you ask me now, I didn't deserve that.
02:00:10.000 Like, I... I fumbled a lot of bags like that and went through a lot of pain.
02:00:16.000 So you had a lot of good girls came in and like...
02:00:18.000 Think about how many girls we've had that were really good girls that we just...
02:00:23.000 You know what?
02:00:23.000 We're having fun.
02:00:24.000 Fuck them over.
02:00:24.000 Fuck them over.
02:00:25.000 And then the next guy is like, damn.
02:00:27.000 But you get that.
02:00:29.000 I got that.
02:00:30.000 That came back to me tenfold.
02:00:32.000 So if a woman is out here giving away her body and...
02:00:36.000 You don't deserve a guy who's going to come and protect you and take care of your little badass kids and pay your bills and lead you.
02:00:46.000 You don't really deserve that because you're going to hurt that man.
02:00:49.000 You don't deserve that.
02:00:50.000 Now, is that not to say if you don't clean your act up?
02:00:53.000 Is that not to say if you don't clean your act up and...
02:00:57.000 Lead a better life.
02:00:58.000 You don't deserve it.
02:00:59.000 Of course, you know, if you live in that way, because, you know, I've got a record and all type of shit and been in prison and all type of shit.
02:01:06.000 Is that not to say that I don't deserve good things now?
02:01:08.000 Because I went to prison in 2006, you know, because I I don't do no shit like that no more.
02:01:13.000 I'm not living like that no more.
02:01:15.000 So do I always, am I always got to be the underbelly?
02:01:17.000 So I can't say that if a woman has had a questionable past that, you know, 10 years later that she don't deserve a family.
02:01:23.000 But if she out here dotting it up and fucking different guys and now you don't deserve no good dude because you ain't going to do nothing but damage him.
02:01:29.000 And you're going to make the world a shitty place.
02:01:31.000 Yeah.
02:01:32.000 Question for you.
02:01:32.000 Do you think guys, what about reformed girls?
02:01:35.000 Let's say a girl is, you know, former stripper or former porn star, some former bullshit.
02:01:41.000 I don't know.
02:01:42.000 Some former sex worker or some type of job that was not, is questionable.
02:01:45.000 Should a guy still commit to her?
02:01:47.000 No.
02:01:48.000 I agree.
02:01:49.000 I agree.
02:01:49.000 Now, I would say you better off with a formal, like a chick who had a hoe face or something like that.
02:01:56.000 But like an actual sex worker, and this is the thing.
02:01:59.000 They have seen the lowest of men.
02:02:01.000 Like I said earlier, I don't know if we was talking before, but like...
02:02:04.000 When women, that disdain that women have from men, you know, that whole shit, they see them the worst in men.
02:02:14.000 Yeah, they do.
02:02:14.000 Women who do sex work and women who, like, prostitute their bodies, they see the belly of the beast of men.
02:02:19.000 And our brain, the way that our brains work, when we see something, we associate it with all.
02:02:23.000 So we see, you know, like when guys that never been outside the house, they watch this podcast, they see these bitches up here, they be like, this is how hoes are.
02:02:32.000 This ain't shit, right?
02:02:33.000 If they never really been outside, because that's just the way our brain works.
02:02:36.000 So what I'm saying is, when you got a woman who's in the mud like that and they seeing guys like defile their families, they seeing guys steal money from their wives to come trick with them and leave their kids and just get shit on.
02:02:53.000 When they seeing that over and over, that's their perspective of men now.
02:02:56.000 And so no matter how much they get away from it, they're going to always look at you like them.
02:03:01.000 Yeah.
02:03:02.000 Just like a guy, right?
02:03:04.000 Just like a guy, the guy who got all of the bodies and been fucking other dudes' wives.
02:03:09.000 It's hard for them to commit to women because they've seen the lowest of the low.
02:03:14.000 They've seen women cheat.
02:03:16.000 They've seen women.
02:03:17.000 It's hard to trust them.
02:03:18.000 So when you have women as strippers and whores and shit like that, they don't really trust men no more.
02:03:22.000 Yeah.
02:03:23.000 Facts.
02:03:23.000 You see what I'm saying?
02:03:24.000 And I don't know what it will take for them to get out of that.
02:03:26.000 I don't know if it's God or whatever.
02:03:28.000 I honestly don't think they could be.
02:03:29.000 I agree with you, bro.
02:03:30.000 We're good to go.
02:03:50.000 Hell, man.
02:03:51.000 You could even maybe even...
02:03:52.000 Webcam, too.
02:03:52.000 Webcam.
02:03:53.000 You maybe could even lump in, like, fucking bottle girls in there and shit like that, too.
02:03:56.000 Like, girls that are involved in, like...
02:03:57.000 Y'all just dumb, man.
02:03:59.000 Yeah.
02:04:00.000 You know what I mean?
02:04:01.000 I have a theory.
02:04:01.000 They're worse than strippers, bro.
02:04:02.000 Yeah.
02:04:03.000 Because you know why?
02:04:03.000 Or models that do rap music videos and shit.
02:04:06.000 Like, man...
02:04:06.000 Yo, bro.
02:04:06.000 I'm telling you, bro.
02:04:08.000 Bottle girls, bro...
02:04:09.000 I should say...
02:04:10.000 But you gotta think, because dudes come in there, right?
02:04:12.000 And I know, because we used to want the bartenders and shit, because we used to think, like, oh, she ain't selling her body.
02:04:18.000 She's better.
02:04:19.000 In a way.
02:04:19.000 In a way, she better, because she...
02:04:21.000 Nah.
02:04:22.000 They all hitting them anyway.
02:04:23.000 All them hoes getting hit.
02:04:24.000 Yep.
02:04:25.000 Yeah, man.
02:04:27.000 I don't want to say I can't...
02:04:27.000 Fuck it.
02:04:28.000 Nigga, it's so bad, right?
02:04:30.000 Especially here in Miami.
02:04:32.000 Bartenders, bro, and girls that are like behind the bar are bottle girls, bro.
02:04:36.000 You get a proposition every night.
02:04:38.000 Because, hey, you know what?
02:04:39.000 You want a big tip?
02:04:40.000 Come up with us after.
02:04:41.000 Oh, I finished our five.
02:04:42.000 I'll come up with you guys.
02:04:43.000 Boom.
02:04:44.000 And she's gonna crack, bro.
02:04:45.000 I don't give a fuck.
02:04:46.000 She's gonna crack.
02:04:47.000 At some point.
02:04:48.000 If rappers is coming, rappers and these scammers and shit, these big dope boys, they coming through this shit every single night, tricking.
02:04:56.000 Because they be the biggest tricks.
02:04:57.000 That's why a lot of women like trick guys.
02:04:59.000 I know I've been there.
02:05:00.000 A lot of guys that's in the streets, just because these guys that don't know any better think that because guys are in the streets they have some game and all that shit.
02:05:09.000 That's not true.
02:05:11.000 They just be tricks.
02:05:12.000 They trick the most.
02:05:14.000 You get that money like that, you don't have appreciation for it.
02:05:20.000 You don't have financial literacy like that.
02:05:23.000 You don't really know any better, so they trick a lot.
02:05:27.000 Women flock to them like that because they pay it.
02:05:29.000 Ask any girl that's in the industry her past guys that she dated.
02:05:33.000 Scammers, drug dealers, and niggas that just have trust fund money.
02:05:38.000 And it's because they spend the money because it's not their money.
02:05:41.000 And they just trick on the girls and they get sex.
02:05:43.000 Yeah, facts.
02:05:44.000 Alright, some chats here.
02:05:45.000 Yeah, it was 50 and up.
02:05:48.000 Let's see here.
02:05:49.000 Mondo goes...
02:05:51.000 Open relationship on my end.
02:05:53.000 Married and wife knows.
02:05:54.000 Issue is where to find side chicks.
02:05:56.000 How do I minimize conflict with my main?
02:05:58.000 We were monogamous when we were met and we were broke.
02:06:01.000 I make 500k a year now, 30 years old.
02:06:04.000 We said it earlier.
02:06:05.000 Yeah, he says, how do we minimize conflict with my main?
02:06:07.000 Bro, just don't let her see nothing, bro.
02:06:09.000 Do it outside the house.
02:06:10.000 Fuck with chicks that got something to lose, man.
02:06:13.000 There you go.
02:06:13.000 That's key.
02:06:14.000 That's key.
02:06:15.000 Yeah, that's a good one.
02:06:16.000 Another thing, too, with guys like that, a lot of guys, they don't have the heart to be players.
02:06:23.000 They be fucking chicks and taking the rubber off and falling in love.
02:06:27.000 This is another reason why if you a solid guy, sometimes a woman may look away.
02:06:31.000 If she know you solid and you ain't susceptible to a bitch give you some pussy and you just getting weak and leaving her for her.
02:06:37.000 So you gotta, you know, strap up, wear rubbers, and don't catch feelings.
02:06:41.000 Don't be kissing bitches all in the mouth.
02:06:42.000 Don't take them shopping.
02:06:43.000 Stick and move.
02:06:44.000 But to try to keep carrying on these relationships and you catching feelings, you ain't gonna do nothing but cause problems for yourself.
02:06:51.000 Because your woman is gonna see your feelings going somewhere else, and that's the shit she not gonna like.
02:06:56.000 You see what I'm saying?
02:06:57.000 That sense of, so just, you know, strap up and do things to protect your feelings and not be so invested.
02:07:04.000 You should minimize the effect of the bullshit that's going to come to you.
02:07:08.000 And you better not do shit that you do with your wife with one of your side chicks, bro.
02:07:13.000 What you mean?
02:07:13.000 I'm telling you, bro.
02:07:15.000 If you got a special spot that you and your girl go to and shit like that, and she catches you bringing that chick over there.
02:07:20.000 But you shouldn't even be side...
02:07:22.000 You don't be taking side holes nowhere.
02:07:25.000 If you're in a committed monogamy...
02:07:26.000 And I'm teaching these niggas how to cheat.
02:07:31.000 If you got in a committed relationship and shit like that, don't be fucking going on no dates.
02:07:38.000 If you put you a rubber on stick and fucking move, you damn not need an extra phone.
02:07:42.000 They don't need to know your phone number.
02:07:44.000 I used to use it.
02:07:45.000 It's a bitch probably watching this thing.
02:07:46.000 My name is Rico, bro.
02:07:49.000 For real, bro, I used to use nicknames and all type of shit.
02:07:53.000 You're not supposed to let her in like that if you got a main woman and you got a family and shit.
02:07:59.000 Because it's the thing, man.
02:08:00.000 You're making $500,000 a year and all that shit.
02:08:03.000 Now everything's all good.
02:08:04.000 You up.
02:08:04.000 But life's got valleys, man.
02:08:05.000 Peaks and valleys.
02:08:06.000 And one day, not to say that you may lose your money, but one day you're going to be in that valley.
02:08:10.000 And that woman is going to be...
02:08:13.000 The one who there for you, you better make sure that she on the up and up and she not looking at you with resentment when you do fall because that's when they hit you, when you fall.
02:08:23.000 Well said, brother.
02:08:24.000 Fair enough.
02:08:25.000 This was a very wisdom-driven, experience-driven podcast.
02:08:28.000 Very good.
02:08:28.000 I learned a lot as well.
02:08:29.000 Yeah, I hope you guys enjoyed that episode, man.
02:08:31.000 I knew you guys, it was just us shooting the shit, man.
02:08:33.000 Honestly, we were just like, oh shit, we got to turn the cameras on and hit play.
02:08:36.000 So you guys just basically heard the discussion.
02:08:38.000 Yeah.
02:08:39.000 But yeah, we'll be back with some lovely ladies.
02:08:41.000 Chris is here, so that's a good sign.
02:08:43.000 That's a good thing.
02:08:44.000 What time are we going to start, Chris?
02:08:45.000 10.30.
02:08:46.000 10.30?
02:08:46.000 Alright, cool.
02:08:47.000 Guys, we'll be back here in a little bit, man.
02:08:48.000 We'll love y'all.
02:08:49.000 We'll be back.
02:08:49.000 Peace.
02:08:50.000 Peace.
02:08:50.000 I ran, I ran so far away.
02:08:55.000 I just ran, I ran all night and day.