00:00:34Well, Kim and Marshy, thanks for joining the Riley Gaines Show.0.94
00:00:38You guys are like the most dynamic duo when it comes to protecting women's sports and common sense.
00:00:46Both of you and I think the evolution of the movement and even you both personally over the past few years has just been something that has inspired me.
00:09:11I mean, it's true for anything designated for women.
00:09:14So it comes down to a language issue. When you give men the right to call themselves women, then you strip away the right of women to advocate for their unique needs and experiences apart from men.
00:09:56they're in direct conflict with one another. Inevitably, and we've seen this for years now,
00:10:03it's the most frustrating thing, discourse we see online by those who I do believe
00:10:09know better. Whether it's saying that we need genital inspections, that's what we're advocating
00:10:16for, is grown men to ask young girls to pull down their pants so we can inspect their genitals.
00:10:21Can you guys just debunk this, please? No one is advocating for this. No one wants a genital
00:10:29inspection. So when you see this discourse online, how do you respond to this and what
00:10:34actually are we advocating for, Marshy? So what's so ironic is that they're harping
00:10:43no genital exams in women's sports, while they're also saying we want to force grown men0.51
00:10:51into locker rooms and showers with little girls after swim practice or after volleyball with
00:11:00high school athletes. So it's so disingenuous. It's fear-mongering to the umpteenth degree
00:11:10because what women are asking for is actually going back to something we used to do even at0.98
00:11:18the Olympic Games, which was cheek swabbing athletes who wanted to participate in the female1.00
00:11:24category. So this was done decades ago. Thankfully, the IOC is now reversing itself
00:11:32and becoming the leader that they are supposed to be by reinstituting a simple cheek swab.
00:11:40It's very cheap. It's easy, non-invasive. I had a two-year-old during COVID who I had to shove
00:11:48a, you know, Q-tip up to tickle his brain in order to, you know, get on a flight to go and0.83
00:11:56see my parents to prove, you know, his COVID test. And yet we are not willing to just swab
00:12:05a woman's mouth to determine that she's in the right category. It's really imperative now0.82
00:12:14That we are seeing, you know, plastic surgery advances, kids who have tragically been medicalized at such a young age that they are participating in women's sports, quote unquote, stealth because they're able to pass as women and girls, however, are experiencing, you know, state championship once in a lifetime athlete accolade titles given to them.
00:12:43because they're performing, understandably, at a much higher level than genetic females.
00:12:50And so this is the next frontier for the protection of women's sports,1.00
00:12:56cheek swabbing in order to protect our women and girls and to uphold the laws that we do have in1.00
00:13:04place. To suggest that you have a sports category for which there is no eligibility criteria other
00:13:11than personal declaration is crazy. It's a non-category then because it's a completely
00:13:18permeable boundary. And the reason we have people do drug testing, step on scales, make sure that
00:13:23they're the right age, make sure they live in the right district, that they are citizens of a
00:13:28certain country is to make sure that they are eligible for the category that they are competing
00:13:33in. And that is, has to be the same case for the women's category. We've got to make sure that it1.00
00:13:39is a boundaried category to allow for female athletes to compete fairly and safely.0.98
00:13:47So, yeah, the sex screening thing is quite easy.
00:13:50And I want to also say that to your listeners that every single young athlete in America
00:13:57in middle school through high school has to go through a pre-participation physical right
00:14:02now for Clarence to participate in school sports that every doctor knows your sex, especially
00:14:09if they know your medical history, which you are by law required to provide.
00:14:13So a cheek swab is, again, simple, easy, and it is complete, for the SRY gene, it's
00:14:24But as far as what the USOPC is doing, contrary to the IOC, they are not installing or are
00:14:32beginning cheek swabs for eligibility and registration for USOPC organizations.
00:14:38And it's that USOPC is U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee.
00:14:42It's an umbrella organization that oversees all Olympic sport in the U.S.
00:14:47And we have men and boys competing under that Olympic umbrella, under their governance, in the women and girls category across the board and at the highest levels.
00:14:58With just, was it now three or four weeks ago, we had a male athlete who just started cycling 18 months ago competitively.
00:15:07We provided icons, provided the information necessary to the USA Cycling to say this is a male athlete in violation of their written policy.
00:15:18And they continued to elevate him through the ranks until finally about three or four weeks ago, they gave him an international license to compete at a UCI event,
00:15:30the most prestigious event on U.S. soil in the last decade
00:15:34where he would be competing against Olympic gold medalists.
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00:16:07um and so that's i mean it's just an appalling or embarrassing state of affairs for our olympic
00:16:17committee to not be holding accountable doing their job to hold accountable their national
00:16:24governing bodies to uphold the rules and policies not just of the united states but of the
00:16:29international sports communities so we have they've got to start doing their job and they
00:16:36have got to start requiring the policy to be enforced, not just written in words, which is
00:16:42what we're seeing across the board right now. Do you think the Trump administration knows about
00:16:47this? Because when it comes to the Olympics, especially LA, 2028, President Trump and his
00:16:55administration has been very clear, like, there will be no men competing in women's sports. So
00:17:00do you think that they know the USOPC isn't adhering to the guidelines that the IOC has set
00:17:07and certainly that we've seen kind of laid out from President Trump and his administration?
00:17:13Because I imagine they would not be overly thrilled if they knew the USOPC was doing this.
00:17:19And they would force their hand because up until this point, they've done a pretty good job of
00:17:25that. I think there, of course, could be a case made about the NCAA and how maybe the Trump
00:17:31administration believed them to be following guidelines, but that's a separate conversation.
00:17:36Do you think they know about what the USOPC is doing?
00:17:40Marcia, I think we're a little confused right now. We have notified high-level
00:17:48government officials about what's happening. I don't know that they know the extent to which
00:17:56it's happening. So I do believe that there are, I mean, this is kind of speculation though, Riley,
00:18:02I believe that there are the people who are in charge of taking their big stick to hold the US
00:18:10OPC accountable as it is a federally chartered institution, even though it doesn't receive
00:18:14federal funding, it exists at the pleasure and discrimination of the U of Congress of the
00:18:21government. So we have told people, you know, what's happening, but the enforcement is not
00:18:28coming down from the top at the USOPC. So it's unclear at this point, what conversations are
00:18:34happening. Yes, I wish they would be stronger. I wish they would be faster. But I, Marcia,
00:18:41Do you have anything to add to that? I'm not 100% clear.
00:18:44I would say they are aware to an extent, but Kim and I, and one of the reasons Kim was sitting in the Senate last week is to raise major alarm bells.
00:19:02the American people also, you know, we we've gained wins, certainly, especially since the
00:19:11Trump administration has been so focused on trying to help women and girls in sports.
00:19:17We are seeing wins like at the Olympic Committee, like with keeping men out of women's sports
00:19:23executive order, like we've seen for a couple of years now, which is great. But every time
00:19:30we celebrate a win, a large part of the population believes it's over. So even when your sport
00:19:39changes its policy in name and word only, parents, you need to hold these people's feet to the fire
00:19:50and go to the media and talk about what you're experiencing and out them because the pressure
00:19:56at this point is what is changing policy and awareness. It's not the people in the leadership
00:20:06chair, because depending on who is sitting on that board, they are some of the biggest trans
00:20:12activists we've ever encountered, our board members within these sports. This is why we have
00:20:18come to this mass problem across sports. And so parents and voters and individuals,
00:20:27we have got to rise up and start talking about this and demanding people do something about it
00:20:34to rectify this right now. Because can you imagine when President Trump is out of the Oval Office,
00:25:56And even in states where there are policies or laws that are supposed to help us understand the numbers or protect girls, like in Michigan, there is a policy that if you are a boy and you want to participate on a girls team, that you have to submit for a waiver to participate on that.
00:26:17we have found several boys in the last couple years during this policy who are playing on
00:26:25girls' teams. And we know they're boys. We've verified it 100%. And they are not submitting.
00:26:31They don't believe they have to follow the policy. It's as if this is a group of people
00:26:35that the rules don't apply for. And even in states where there are laws protecting the girls,
00:26:42We know about the volleyball player in Florida, but we also know of ones in Ohio and in Texas.
00:26:48We have watched administrators interviewed to say, oh, here's the loopholes.
00:26:54Here's how we can help get your boy through the cracks.
00:26:56Like the cheek swab is the bulletproof way to say you have to be eligible because otherwise
00:27:02we get individual activists like we have at the head of USA Hockey, USA Rugby, USA Volleyball,
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00:31:23could start with just one conversation. I'm sure you are the same as I am, Riley. I had no idea
00:31:32when we worked to try to file those cases in federal court, what the federal court system
00:31:37looked like, what that process looked like. How long and drawn out and appeals and 30 days here
00:31:44and 90 days here. Yeah. So there is a level of, of confusion on, on where these things stand,
00:31:51the timeline of them, what's actually even being decided on. But I think it's intentional,
00:31:57Right. Like it feels intentionally confusing and draining, draining financially, emotionally, the output, I guess, there.
00:32:06So in terms of finances and such, is that something that your everyday person, if they feel convicted to contribute to, is that something, number one, that's needed and that is possible to be done?
00:32:19Yes, we need financial support. And it's critically important that these cases stay alive, even because they are the best chance that women have right now in federal court to secure legal protections.
00:32:34And as Marshy said earlier, we need those permanent legal protections.
00:33:02And they put that on the side in order to be able to uphold this policy and now it's gone. So we've got to get legal victories in court to secure women's rights. We absolutely need funding. We are fighting this. We filed these cases believing that the American people wanted to see women win in court and that when we filed, they would come to support the girls that were brave enough to put their necks on the line.1.00
00:33:31We are managing to keep them barely afloat right now, but we need support.
00:34:46So it just, I mean, lots of people, but Mackenzie Bezos,
00:34:50$45 million into funding those male athletes.
00:34:54So we need financial support from the other side. I wish that we could put court cases out there for every woman that calls us and says they want.
00:35:03We need to be littering the country with court cases.0.99
00:35:06Well, we certainly see wins happening legislatively. And I think when we're talking about shifting public opinion, but you have to have wins in the courtroom ultimately to set the precedent.
00:35:20Um, so thank you guys. And, and, and to hold people accountable, otherwise the whole slap
00:35:26on the wrist kind of enforcement mechanism that, that we've seen thus far, it just doesn't work
00:35:33when you are dealing with activists, as you, you put it, which I think is, is, um, maybe even an
00:35:40understatement. These people are worse than activists. It is their life mission to further
00:35:46gender ideology to harm women um and children weirdly enough so thank you guys for doing what0.67
00:35:52you do for backing the cases for testifying and for for alerting the public um to things that0.89
00:35:58otherwise they would think we're on the winning side of and while again we have seen wins and we
00:36:02should celebrate those there's a lot of work to do so thank you guys
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