Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - September 25, 2026


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00:00:24.620 Well, Catalina, thanks for joining the Riley Gaines Show.
00:00:28.040 I'm super stoked to have you on.
00:00:29.480 I want you to just have a second to introduce yourself and take a second to explain what
00:00:34.640 you just went through with your congressional campaign and what you've maybe learned about
00:00:40.160 yourself in the past few weeks.
00:00:42.100 Yes.
00:00:42.700 So thank you so much for having me on, Riley.
00:00:45.160 I'm Catalina Louth.
00:00:46.820 I'm a former Trump administration special advisor at the Department of Commerce.
00:00:52.760 So I was with the 45 admin.
00:00:55.020 I had a private sector background prior to that.
00:00:58.000 My sister and I have a kids health company where we help transition kids off of long-term
00:01:03.400 laxative use.
00:01:04.860 And we're in the very Maha moment and movement.
00:01:09.720 And so I'm super passionate about that, but also just ran for Congress in Southwest Florida
00:01:16.240 and have had an interesting political journey, but my heart has always been in the fight.
00:01:22.660 and unfortunately we did lose this last primary but the story's not over yet i've been honored to
00:01:31.160 write a book called time to choose that just recently came out and still here in the movement
00:01:36.520 fighting every day for our values and against the crazy radical left well praise god that you are
00:01:43.020 i think there's something really valuable about having strong women also beautiful women who are
00:01:49.580 in the fight. I think there's this assumption that when you lose an election or the outcome
00:01:54.960 isn't what you were hoping for, you're supposed to just like disappear. I do think there are a
00:01:59.840 lot of people involved in the political sphere who aren't necessarily in it for the right reasons,
00:02:07.020 who maybe have some sort of ulterior motives. And it exists on both sides, unfortunately.
00:02:11.980 So when you see people who have real passion and desire to create lasting impact that you
00:02:19.900 talked about, generations will feel, that sort of thing is inspiring and rare nonetheless.
00:02:25.560 I didn't know about this business venture with your sister too.
00:02:29.760 Wait, can you talk a little bit more about that?
00:02:31.640 And I think specifically what it's like to do business with a sibling.
00:02:35.300 I've got two sisters.
00:02:36.540 I cannot imagine doing business with my siblings.
00:02:40.040 So we pivoted and we created a product that helps kids who are constipated using it's called human milk oligosaccharide and it mirrors breast milk.
00:02:50.000 And so we wanted to just help kids from the beginning to date.
00:02:54.140 We've transitioned thousands of kids off of long term laxative use.
00:02:58.400 Pediatricians, you know, refer us now and we're getting into sort of the immunity space and other areas for kids health in general.
00:03:07.000 And so we take on big pharma every day in our company, but in it's challenging, but also to be working with my sister is incredible. She's an incredible CEO. And I think what's awesome is that we're so different, yet we're similar. So, you know, I do more of the idea side of things and she's more just the executor running the day to day operations. And we're sort of the yin and yang in that way.
00:03:32.100 but believe me, we still argue. We always say we're going to be those 70 year old women who
00:03:36.000 are just arguing still, but it's, it's incredible. It's a great match.
00:03:41.640 Oh, that's so cool. And it is, um, I don't know. I, and hearing you talk about big pharma and
00:03:47.120 kind of pushing back there, I feel hopeful being in the same generation, being young.
00:03:52.580 And I think, especially being a woman, I think we've seen a lot of younger moms in particular
00:03:57.160 who are starting to question things, especially when it comes to their kids' health. So whether
00:04:01.760 it is, uh, what formula option is best for them, whether it's the newborn vaccine schedule.
00:04:06.840 Um, I don't know if we have COVID to thank for that, you know, which sounds weird to
00:04:11.200 say, I don't think we should be thanking COVID or that time period for anything, but I do
00:04:14.520 think it's given young women in particular, a level of skepticism when it comes to what
00:04:19.100 we're putting in our bodies or better yet, what we're putting in our kids' bodies. 0.91
00:04:22.460 So to have some sort of alternative out there, um, that is Maha approved, I think is incredible.
00:04:27.820 uh your story your whole background and whether it's it's you or your mom your mom actually came 0.62
00:04:35.420 here from guatemala right uh can you talk about we were actually talking about this prior to
00:04:40.540 clicking record kind of the immigration process for your mom back then and i know we both kind
00:04:46.900 of have our own stories now of how the immigration system has changed and really how illegal
00:04:51.920 immigration has really put a dent on the legal immigration process to get here in this country
00:04:57.600 Absolutely. My mom came here in the 80s. And she this was she had met my dad in Guatemala. But her story was she was sponsored by her employer. And you know, she worked three jobs. She learned English. She was just such a hard worker and and valued the American dream as in terms of just opportunity.
00:05:23.720 In Guatemala, it's very poor, incredibly impoverished.
00:05:28.080 My grandmother picked coffee beans when she was eight years old because she didn't really
00:05:31.880 have a choice. 0.58
00:05:32.620 She had to help put food on her table as a little girl. 1.00
00:05:36.420 And from the beginning, my grandmother just always instilled in my mom and the women in 1.00
00:05:42.680 our family is just be entrepreneurial, be hardworking, be somebody greater than what
00:05:50.100 your beginnings are.
00:05:51.340 And I think those things, those values really resonated and became part of my mother's story.
00:05:58.940 And so she came in in the 80s, and she was sponsored by her employer, she obviously spoke
00:06:03.440 the language. And she was able, again, to work really hard for that. And it was expensive,
00:06:09.620 it was long, it was, you know, it was it clearly is a lot different than it is today. And so,
00:06:16.020 you know fast forward to today where you see and and we from hispanic especially um side of things
00:06:23.140 you know we more than anybody want legal immigration because we know what our families
00:06:28.240 have gone through and and so to get this excuse where you know you can just come across the
00:06:34.620 border and you get a free handout you get the red carpet treatment well that that's not the reality
00:06:38.740 of of you know a sovereign country but it's also not the reality of the majority of legal
00:06:45.040 immigrants. They don't want that. They want to actually contribute for the American dream. 1.00
00:06:50.260 I bet there's a level of frustration when you understand your mom and her background and what
00:06:55.980 she fled when coming to America and doing it the right way. And then you see people outside
00:07:00.800 protesting, which is their right, right? No one is trying to infringe upon that. But you see people
00:07:05.840 outside protesting for no King's Day or whatever. There's got to be a level of frustration when you
00:07:11.960 see people who are born in america seem to take the things that your mom fought for for granted
00:07:17.720 and not realizing what what other countries and and citizens and places i think especially when
00:07:23.440 we're talking about the middle east which feels relevant in the kind of national international
00:07:27.680 discussions going on now what those people specifically those women face in countries
00:07:32.520 like saudi arabia there's got to be a level of of frustration when you see that oh yeah and i'm so
00:07:38.280 happy you bring that up because it's so frustrating, especially when you have an entire
00:07:42.780 generation of women sometimes who they don't know how good we have it. Just like the fact that we
00:07:50.300 are living and breathing in America, number one, number two, all this, you know, oppression and
00:07:55.600 feminist, you know, ideas that we're somehow oppressed. That's not the reality. Like you
00:08:01.020 want to see real oppression, go to a place like Saudi Arabia, where these women can't even drive, 1.00
00:08:05.420 You know, they're, they're stoned and just horrific things. 1.00
00:08:09.220 And even places like, you know, Central America, where your reality is, you know, you're, you're
00:08:16.360 working so hard.
00:08:17.380 I even thought about this with, you know, thinking about kids and things like that.
00:08:21.180 Like there are women that are still carrying their babies, working in a field and they're
00:08:27.140 not asked, you know, they have no, they're not asking for anything.
00:08:31.220 They don't have the ability to have anything more than that.
00:08:36.500 And they can't be entrepreneurs.
00:08:37.680 They can't do what, you know, we're doing.
00:08:40.220 And it's not to say that we should feel guilty about that, but it's to say that we should
00:08:44.500 feel appreciative for what we have here and to not think of like little luxuries that
00:08:50.320 sometimes our generation is just so, I think, a little spoiled sometimes.
00:08:55.580 And we don't, we want to preserve what we have here because I'm telling you to be a
00:09:00.120 woman in any other you know country other than america i will say it's it's not the same it's
00:09:06.820 not i and there's a spectrum of that you know there's western countries but you know what i
00:09:12.060 mean yeah for sure and louis my husband he grew up in dubai he spent eight years in dubai which
00:09:18.140 is in the middle east but more westernized um not as much as it is now but but at the time still
00:09:23.500 more westernized than other countries in the middle east in that region but even still he
00:09:27.220 says you couldn't go in public and hold hands with your significant other that like it was
00:09:33.140 grounds for punishment if you did for the women so so totally um you've kind of been sounding the
00:09:40.000 alarm about the normalization of socialism among young americans in particular how big of a threat
00:09:48.060 is like this new and emerging dsa faction of the democratic party i think especially when we're
00:09:55.500 talking about elected positions. I'm so happy you're bringing that up too, because what I've
00:10:00.780 seen actually over the last like 10 years, for example, AOC has been a socialist and she's been
00:10:06.920 in elected office now for almost a decade. From morning hockey with a cup of coffee to Timbits
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00:10:28.160 triangle for details. We still don't have enough young millennials in office who are counter 0.93
00:10:36.760 voices to somebody like that. And that scares me because that means that we are, we need to do our
00:10:43.900 job from a Republican Party standpoint to recruit the next generation. You have fantastic people
00:10:48.840 like Ana Paulina Luna, Congresswoman, you've got, you know, Congressman Brandon Gill now,
00:10:54.560 who recently was elected, you have some who are, are, you know, millennial, our generation that
00:11:01.220 are combating the far left, but you don't have enough. And so you see these candidates on the
00:11:06.720 DSA side, and you know, these, they're all young, they're all charismatic. And they're able to
00:11:13.800 manipulate an entire generation and continue to do that. Whereas sometimes on our side,
00:11:18.660 we're still sort of running the same candidates over and over again.
00:11:21.280 And we're not 100% aware of, I think, the threat,
00:11:25.180 which I think is the fact that 62% of millennials have a favorable view of socialism.
00:11:31.340 And to me, that means, obviously, we failed in a history,
00:11:34.600 historical perspective in terms of what was taught in schools.
00:11:38.140 But I think also, it's so important to have voices out there,
00:11:43.540 not only just, you know, in the media also, but also in Congress,
00:11:47.960 because look, they have platforms and they are able to influence legislation. They're able to
00:11:53.960 bring up pieces of legislation that matter to millennials. Not when you have people who have 0.99
00:11:58.600 been in there for 40 years, you know, it's just, it's a huge threat. And I, you know,
00:12:04.040 I've been trying to sound the alarm for a while. And, and I think our only way though,
00:12:08.900 is to continue, um, not only from a media perspective and a platform, but also making
00:12:14.800 sure we're getting involved in the policy and electoral process. And the party is still just
00:12:19.820 not not there yet. I think President Trump, he sees the future, I think, in a way that I was
00:12:25.060 honored to have his endorsement. I think he's he's recruited a lot of younger people. But I think we
00:12:30.140 need to still, from a state perspective, still focus on who we are getting to be counter voices
00:12:37.200 to those those crazies. I mean, they are crazy. And but unfortunately, they're winning in a lot 0.99
00:12:42.820 of these areas. Yeah, they are crazy. But there is a level of attraction or appeal when you see 0.96
00:12:49.060 someone like Mom Donnie, which I mean, I'm not like, you know, I'm just very transparent. I'm
00:12:54.120 very honest. I watch his campaigns or his ads or commercials when they pop up on my social media
00:12:58.920 because he's good at them. And I think it's about time we actually admit that as opposed to,
00:13:04.860 you know, we could focus on and we should as long as they continue to be crazy. We could focus on
00:13:08.720 their crazy destructive dangerous policies but i think there's a level of self-awareness that we
00:13:14.880 should be able to or at least attempt to emulate some of what they're doing because it's done well
00:13:20.600 and it's it's successful and they're able to mask their craziness um in some of the the slogans they
00:13:27.260 push for and things that they say even so much so that i even think president trump based on the
00:13:31.840 interactions that he's had with people like mom donnie it seems as if even president trump kind
00:13:36.680 of likes him. Granted, I don't think President Trump is stupid by any means, and he sees 0.96
00:13:41.400 Mom Donnie for what he is, but nonetheless, he even recognizes his charm. And to your point, 0.97
00:13:46.700 I think President Trump and the White House has done a good job on their social media pages,
00:13:50.240 but how do we now get that to trickle down outside of just the Oval Office or the executive branch?
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00:15:05.580 comment i guess then in terms of messaging what is it that young voters especially young
00:15:14.040 conservative voters what are they looking for like do we think we want to hear more like solution
00:15:19.600 based messaging of what the republican party can actually do for us because again i think that's
00:15:24.500 kind of what the democrats do well is they talk about how they can they can help which their whole
00:15:29.200 model is having a bigger government, we want less government. But I think young people want
00:15:33.900 solution based messaging. You're 100% right. And I think, I think they need peer to peer messaging
00:15:41.880 to, you know, I think it's one of those things where we might be saying we might be selling a
00:15:46.580 great product. But we've got the marketing wrong at this point, I think for the younger generation.
00:15:51.900 And I think it's more towards the fact that when you have someone like Mondami or AOC,
00:15:56.400 who both have been elected because of younger people you know you look at who voted for mandami
00:16:01.640 it was overwhelmingly like young women and because of the charismatic part i think that you can we
00:16:09.580 can sell something in terms of selling our message and selling our values but i think a lot of it has
00:16:16.240 to do with who is selling it you know and and so again a woman our age i think is more likely to
00:16:22.540 listen to somebody who's also her age than somebody who again has either been in office
00:16:28.560 for 40 years or 50 years or is it's just older so it's that but i think it's also we have to meet
00:16:35.020 them where they're at you know we have to meet them in ways that are um look like using social
00:16:41.080 media using different platforms talking about these things and how they relate to them you
00:16:45.940 can't afford a home well it's because socialist government spending continues to happen you know
00:16:51.680 we need to sort of relate some of these principles of the past and how we can make their lives better
00:16:57.920 in terms of better policy. Now, because I think that I talked about this the other day, where
00:17:03.160 like millennials, while they agree with socialism, like 100% of them love capitalism, you know,
00:17:08.740 they're all sipping their Starbucks from an Uber, booking Airbnbs booking, you know, from their
00:17:14.180 corporate jobs. It's like their, their everyday existence is because of capitalism. I just don't
00:17:20.600 think that they're either connecting the dots, or they don't have enough people talking about
00:17:26.260 these things. And that's why somebody like yourself is so important, because you're meeting
00:17:30.280 somebody, you're, you're peer to peer messaging, you know, there's a there are young people out
00:17:34.940 there who are going to listen to you 100% more than they would anybody else in sometimes in our
00:17:41.100 from a values perspective in our movement. And so we just have to meet them where they're at
00:17:47.960 and talk about things that they care about you know because i just sometimes think that we're not
00:17:52.280 it's so true about what you say about socialists and how they love capitalism because every time
00:17:58.300 i see like billy eilish on my timeline it's either her telling me how much she hates capitalism or
00:18:03.760 her selling a product i'm like right okay right like you see the irony in this it's really crazy
00:18:09.320 stuff um how do you i guess do you differentiate because i if you were to ask aoc the question of
00:18:15.900 are you a socialist? I mean, she would probably have some sort of answer that totally is not
00:18:22.160 direct by any stretch of the imagination. But you would have a lot of people in the Democratic
00:18:27.200 Party who would ultimately answer, no, they're not a socialist. But the things they advocate for
00:18:33.160 very much seems like socialist policies in terms of healthcare, whether it's immigration and
00:18:39.460 borders across the board. So I guess, how do you differentiate between someone who says they're a
00:18:45.160 Democrat, and those who who are involved with the DSA crowd?
00:18:51.420 I think a lot of them are, they're not hiding it anymore, because I feel like they've gotten
00:18:56.540 away with it for so long. You know, again, like someone like AOC, she's still around 10 years
00:19:01.400 later from the time she was elected. And now people are like, Oh, she's going to be run for
00:19:04.760 president someday. And it's like, okay, in what reality? Does this person even have the, you know,
00:19:11.180 potential to run for president and i think they don't they don't hide it anymore and so i think
00:19:17.740 what now i think they're trying to like reel it back in because of the midterms because finally
00:19:22.460 you know our side it's like you know socialism is bad we shouldn't we need to put a stop to this 0.98
00:19:27.200 and so a lot of them are trying to push away from the hassan pikers of the world and and those guys 1.00
00:19:32.320 but i think a lot of them actually for a long time weren't hiding it and so now they're maybe 1.00
00:19:38.020 trying to but it is going to be difficult and i talk about this in my book too is that there will
00:19:45.300 be a time where there is somebody who is just as charismatic as obama was and who manipulates
00:19:53.040 people in a worse way but what's going to differentiate them is like they will actually
00:19:59.540 be truly communist and we're already seeing that in a lot of these these these people i mean look
00:20:06.200 at what mandami has done to new york city and and i again it's they aren't hiding it but
00:20:14.180 they're chameleons also as well and so it's it's a weird thing and i think they're the ones that
00:20:20.500 we have to be most fearful of because they know how to play the game a little bit more
00:20:25.600 no i agree with you and i feel like i've come to this realization because i i like to give everyone
00:20:31.780 the benefit of the doubt i'm like oh look well this person they say they're not a socialist so
00:20:35.160 maybe let's look a little deeper. But I think when you understand their messaging, and you compare
00:20:40.420 and especially talking about that kind of chameleon mindset, or ability that these specifically
00:20:46.380 Democrat elected officials have, you'll have some Democrats who say things like, you know,
00:20:51.420 no human is illegal, which sounds like warm and fuzzy doesn't make much sense if you actually
00:20:55.860 like apply brain to it. But nonetheless, like, it's a very positive message. And then you have
00:21:00.060 the DSA crowd who takes that to its logical conclusion, and then would say, Okay, well,
00:21:03.940 let's abolish ICE, right? So they're saying the same thing. But I think the Democrats have just
00:21:09.060 mastered the way of saying it in a way that doesn't sound so destructive and anti America,
00:21:14.800 you know, so I agree with you. It's also the way that they're voting, you know, think about
00:21:21.180 something like the Lake and Riley Act, where you had almost 100% of Democrats vote against
00:21:27.420 a common sense piece of legislation, which was for the viewers here to basically crack down on
00:21:35.260 illegal immigrants who have done crimes prior. Something so simple like that. And yet the 0.80
00:21:42.200 policies that they tried to put out, oh, women, you know, women's rights, this and that. And it's
00:21:47.120 like, wait, that policy has nothing to do with any of that, but you won't vote for something that
00:21:51.440 actually fights for women. I mean, so it's actually, it's a way that they're also voting, 0.90
00:21:55.620 which is the scariest part, at least in Congress, you know, is what you what we can see.
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00:23:05.280 one conversation even the save america act the democrats have found this way to say like oh well
00:23:12.080 you're saying you know that black people shouldn't be able to vote and that women shouldn't be able 0.89
00:23:17.180 to vote. It's like, where are you even drawing this from? I think that's actually, you're 0.93
00:23:21.620 insulting African Americans and women by saying either they're too stupid, too lazy to go out and 1.00
00:23:29.660 receive this identification. I mean, it's, yeah, crazy stuff. You've alluded to your book. I want 1.00
00:23:36.220 you to talk about it. It's called Time to Choose Reclaiming Liberty from the Swamp. Tell us about
00:23:42.140 the book? Yes. So it is painting historical examples and these moments in history to a
00:23:51.640 modern day backdrop. And so I take different circumstances, you know, one, for example,
00:23:57.600 is a situation with George Washington and is the first chapter. And I apply that to sort of every
00:24:04.540 day, what we're going through in this current time. And it's that particular chapter is about
00:24:09.460 the two-party system and why we have a two-party system and why we're not really going away from
00:24:13.660 that. And so all these chapters are from different things that I heard on the campaign trail. I've,
00:24:19.500 you know, obviously run for office before, and I've been in politics now for a while.
00:24:23.240 And so all of these things were things that I was hearing from the ground, from people,
00:24:26.600 everyday people. And what I found was that a history doesn't change, you know, human nature
00:24:32.660 human nature and how we can though reclaim our liberty is by recognizing our role in the fight
00:24:40.660 and so it's to say hey look we've been through this before these are the principles that have
00:24:46.400 gotten us through it these are the principles of what we liberty patriots stand for let's apply
00:24:51.700 them to the current moment but also recognize that our founders always wanted us to decide
00:24:58.100 how everything plays out. And we have an enormous responsibility to change if we don't like the way
00:25:05.020 things are, whether it's Congress, whether it's the rise of the socialist far left movement,
00:25:09.540 everybody has a role in in fighting that fighting against those things that are trying to destroy
00:25:15.300 our country. And so it's a little bit of history, a little bit of, you know, not memoir in the sense
00:25:21.780 that it's not about me. It's just I take some of these different little nuggets of experiences and
00:25:27.920 apply them as well and in some parts of the book but then also a call to action and so you know
00:25:32.940 you mentioned before riley too that it might have been covid or everybody has a wake-up moment and
00:25:40.180 everyone has had a wake-up moment and i think that especially with the rise of the far left and and
00:25:47.040 the scare that it's causing it will become personal to everybody at some point whether
00:25:53.000 it's that mom that was so sick of hearing about transgender ideologies at school. And then finally, 0.65
00:26:00.840 she went to the local school board meeting, whether that's, you know, how much you fought 1.00
00:26:05.680 against the crazy transgender in sports, you know, everybody has a very personal moment 1.00
00:26:13.140 with how this is impacting us. And so it's, everybody has to sort of get to that place. 1.00
00:26:21.260 and and the only way they get to that place is by experiencing it and so um a lot of that also
00:26:28.480 is in the book as well and so if you like history if you like you know a little bit of ideas and
00:26:33.520 and principles of the past um it's there's something in it for everybody and it was a
00:26:38.680 labor of love believe me took a while to write do you feel i guess kind of last thing for you
00:26:44.320 Do you feel hopeful about the future? Do you feel hopeful that, I guess, about Gen Z and what we have to be able to contribute to the success and the prosperity of America?
00:26:58.720 absolutely and i'll tell you why i was very close with a world war ii veteran and before he passed
00:27:07.500 we we'd always talk about politics before he passed you know where i was complaining i'm like
00:27:12.020 god this our generation is just so backwards sometimes i get so frustrated and he goes
00:27:16.960 catalina he goes he was basically saying how do you think we felt back then he's like i would say
00:27:23.100 the same thing about our generation but he said you know it'll one day it'll be your generation
00:27:28.260 that has to step up here.
00:27:30.040 And I have full faith when that time comes,
00:27:31.980 you guys will step up.
00:27:33.760 And so it was almost that moment of,
00:27:37.200 hey, we've been through very hard times
00:27:40.240 as a country before. 0.91
00:27:41.600 And every generation has its gilded age
00:27:45.100 and their own trials.
00:27:46.560 And we always step up at the end of the day.
00:27:48.820 And so I do have hope.
00:27:50.540 We just, we've got a lot of work to do.
00:27:53.220 Where can people get your book
00:27:54.900 and follow you and everything that you're doing?
00:27:57.100 yes Catalina Lauf on all social media platforms and time to choose is available at Barnes & Noble
00:28:03.120 Amazon Target all the major retailers and thank you so much for for having me and your great
00:28:09.680 conversation you're incredible well and likewise thank you for joining thank you
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